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Will Levis, Bryce Young, And Other Young QB's Have Some Doubters

Will Levis might be losing support after 1 game and Bryce Young is getting bench talk in Carolina. Find out why Tony Wiggins and David Harrison thinks one is a big mistake. Also, the surprisingly tough Patriots reveal an identity. That and more on this episode.

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Will Levis might be losing support after 1 game and Bryce Young is getting bench talk in Carolina. Find out why Tony Wiggins and David Harrison thinks one is a big mistake. Also, the surprisingly tough Patriots reveal an identity. That and more on this episode.

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[MUSIC PLAYING] It's the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. Next after one week, man, the Lockdown NFL crew, they dropped some heat about these quarterbacks. Dave Harrison and I today are going to take a look at what they said here on Lockdown NFL. The barbershop is open, and Tony Wiggins has a chair for you. He's ready with some real NFL talk. Only the experts of Lockdown bring their expertise and Wikis ready with his scissors and cheers. Sit down and enjoy the new Lockdown NFL starts now. Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. Wikis, they call me. I am ready. I'm in the barbershop, and I'm ready to bring the barbershop to you here on Lockdown NFL. The second part of Lockdown NFL, the first part, Tyler rolling the mat, man, came through and gave you a shot of NFL Express. So it is the new Lockdown NFL. That is exactly what we do here every single day, and we appreciate you making us your first listen. Today's show is sponsored by FanDoodle. Now listen to this. Now through September 22nd, all FanDoodle customers can bet $5, just $5, and get a three week free trial of NFL Sunday ticket from YouTube and YouTube TV. Visit FanDoodle.com to get started. Shout out to the every day that's for joining us, and every Wednesday. I am joined by my man, David Harrison. David, you ready to talk about these quarterbacks? We might even get to the one you cover every day too. Oh, yeah, let's do it. All right, let's do it. Tyler rolling the mat, man. I mentioned them. Now check this out. He dropped a gym on Lockdown Titans. I don't want you to hear what he has to say about Willevis. Brian Callahan could have been better with the play calling and put Willevis in a better spot. Again, tough defense, 10th game ever, all of these things. Now, is it fair, also want to mention, that Willevis was pressured the second most in the NFL this weekend. 47% of Willevis's dropbacks, he was under pressure. The Titans offensive line was 28 in past block grade on pro football focus. So I don't want to make excuses for Willevis, but there are also a lot of things outside of the game itself that must be considered here or not outside of the game itself, but context around his performance that has to be considered. And I'm just saying it's not time to give up. So the old saying in the military, I don't know if you ever heard this, but this probably was one of those Air Force things, because they got to be all, you know, they're different than the army and everybody. It's that excuses and reasons are identical twins, depending on who's looking at it. So he gave very valid reasons, but I think you might have a little bit of a different take on Willevis. - Yeah, look, I mean, look, I will, so I will agree with Tyler here that it is too early to just give up on Willevis and pull him and all that stuff. Well, I will not agree with his that. Willevis is not the creator of his own mayhem, right? So, you know, I know Tyler throughout a percentage there, 47% of his dropbacks, he was pressured on. Listen, I went through, I watched all 40 of Willevis's dropbacks from that game. And he was pressured, according to the film that I watched, he was pressured 15 times. Now, not all pressures are created equal. So even if it's 47, even if it's 37, whatever percentage of pressures you have, they're like interceptions. Not every interception is created equal, not every interception is on the quarterback. Well, not every pressure is on the offensive line. And Wig, only three times that I counted from watching, again, all 40 Willevis's dropbacks did the pressure come before or right at the top of Willevis's drop. And you know as well as I know, and in the NFL, if you're a quarterback, you get to the top of your drop, it is time to make a decision. Throw the ball or run it. Like, one of those two things needs to happen. If you stand in the pocket, 'cause we see the Pat Mahomes and Mark Jackson's at the world get to the top of their drop, they hitch, they hitch, they hitch, whatever. Okay, and that's fine. But just understand, you are now playing with your own time. You are now betting on yourself and all those things. Everybody would love to have an offensive line that lets a quarterback get to the top of his drop, hitch, hitch, bounce around, go this way, go this way, now I'm gonna throw the ball. Everybody would love to have that offensive line. That is not the reality of the national football. You are not going to get that much time. So three times Willevis was pressured quicker than it took him to get to the top of his hitch or top of his drop or right at the top of his drop. I gave him credit for one. Technically he got there, but it was pretty quickly thereafter. So I gave him credit for that one. So that means 37 times you dropped back and you got to the top of your drop and had the opportunity to make a decision and you either made a bad one or at least didn't make the right one, right? The interception he threw came on a late throw. It's an out breaking route. He was late on the delivery. That's not the off as a line's fault. There was a throw that he should have been intercepted that was dropped by a Bears defender. Again, it was late. Both of his three sacks that didn't result in a fumble came after Willevis in his progression passed up open receivers. Those are decisions that you have to be able to make. The strip sack, there was nobody open. Chicago Bears defense covered that up really, really well. But Willevis is rolling out to the right and wig. He stops at the right hash. Right outside the pocket. So instead of fully rolling out to the right side, give his receiver some opportunity to come open for him. He stops and gets ready to try to fire that ball into double coverage deep down the right side. It's third and sixth. Brother, you need six and a half yards. You don't need to touch down here. You want to touch down great, but you just need six and a half yards. So roll out towards the sideline. You've got from the right hash to the sideline open. Keep rolling. Let your three underneath routes try to come open for you or see if you can get a defender to over commit and find some green to run for the first time yourself. One of those two things, but what you don't need to do is stop, plant and throw the ball into double coverage, which is exactly what he's about to do. It takes him forever just to do that. So the Bears defender on the backside catches up and knocks the ball out. Those are absolutely decisions that are on Willevis. So while I will agree that it's not time to pull the plug on Willevis yet if you're coach Callahan, I will not say it's not because Willevis wasn't responsible for some of his own demise on Sunday. I just think you got to pick the thing that favors you. And what that is is standing there in the pocket for a long time doesn't favor you because I know those offensive linemen is like, okay, he's got to be gone by now. Well, the ball has to be gone by now. And then on those scramble routes, DBs hate that. So I would take advantage of the things that DBs hate. I would leave the pocket. If I'm going to leave the pocket, I would leave the pocket looking to throw the ball because now the disadvantage goes to the defensive back, especially if they're a man or man, because he doesn't seem to be scrambling. He doesn't seem to be running. You said move your arm or move your feet. There's a kid in Indianapolis that don't have that problem at all and listen to lockdown coach. And their assessment of Anthony Richards, like we can't rely on Anthony being an alien every week. We need to have the procedural stuff in front of him. And part of that's on him too. Like the layups, he has to hit some of the layups and stuff too, but it just needs to be a better process from this Goldstein going forward. - Yeah, I think overall it was clunky and insane all at the same time. Where like, I think they just have to be better on first and second down. - I want him to be an alien every week, but I want him to be a controlled alien every week, where just because he's an alien, you don't treat him like one when it's time for preparation. You actually put the same structure in front of him that you would a traditional dropback passer and allow him to ease into working out all of the kinks and knowing when to pull that great athleticism out and that beautiful arm and win to just take a check down and play quarterback the way it's supposed to be played. - Yeah, listen, the National Football League, the game of football at any level, I don't care what level of football you're at, but especially in the National Football League, this is the ultimate team sport. This is not a sport where one great player can take you to a national championship or to a Super Bowl or whatever. And if you're playing in a high school league where one great athlete can take you to your state championship, you're not playing in a very good state for football, just let you know. This isn't baseball, this isn't basketball, you can't do that stuff. So Anthony Richardson might be great. And I'll tell you, the biggest deception that the greatest quarterbacks of all time have ever pulled off is people thinking that it's all of them, right? Patrick McCombs doesn't do what he does because it's only him and nobody else. Tom Brady, sure is enough, does not do what he does 'cause it's only him or did. Because it's only him and nobody else. Joe Montana, Terry Bradshaw, go through all these guys. It's a team sport. So I don't care if it's Anthony Richardson, I don't care if it's Saquan Barkley, Christian McCaffrey, AJ Brown, Randy Moss, Jerry Rice, Lawrence Taylor, Reggie White. I don't care who the great player you're talking about is, if your strategy is that one dude is gonna get you everywhere, everything you need to get, you are not operating at a sustainable level. Are you gonna win games? Yes, you're gonna win some games because yet one guy was an alien played out of his mind, out of this world. But that is not a sustainable model. And the Colts absolutely have to find a way to get their offense on schedule to help out their quarterback. 'Cause guess what? He might convert seven, third and 15s in the first four weeks of the season and look amazing and make ESPN every night. But there's gonna be about 13 other third and 15s that you don't convert and those are lost points. Yeah, and those usually happen in big games. Usually it'll happen in games where the talent is matched and you ain't only freak on the field. Like if you're on one side of the ball and my comparison is on the other and he's playing a spy, well guess what? Your freak is oiled meter just went down a notch 'cause he's just as much of a freak as you are. And I sound like I'm talking about Rick James or somebody, but I'm not. We're talking about football. We're talking about quarterbacks. We're gonna stay on these young quarterbacks because Julian Council dropped a heat bomb talking about Bryce Young. We're gonna talk about that and then give you a chance to talk about the development, the plan that the commanders have for Jayden Daniels. We'll do all of that in just a second here in segment two on lockdown NFL. Today's show is sponsored and brought to you by Fandoor. That's right, man, Fandoor is the absolute truth. Y'all know it, I know it. I've been saying and now football is really, really back and those sports are sporting already and I know y'all had a good time. Listen, it's America's number one sports book and guess what? We have something a little different for you right now. Now through September 22nd, all Fandoor customers can bet $5 and get a three-week free trial of NFL Sunday ticket from YouTube and YouTube TV. Then with a YouTube TV-based plan, you'll be able to watch every regular season, Sunday afternoon, out of market game. All you need is a Google account and a current form of payment and you can cancel anytime. Just visit Fandoor.com, download Americas. Number one, sports book. All right, segment two, lockdown NFL, David Harrison, of lockdown NFL and lockdown commanders, dropping these heat missiles, man. And Julian Counselor is on with me Monday. David's on every Wednesday. Julian was on with me Monday and I gotta play this with you, David, because I didn't even think that this was even a thought process and that's why I love tapping into the local folks. I'm a local guy too. I do lockdown jaguars, but they always have the finger on the pulse of the team. And Julian, let me know that there's something brewing maybe behind the scenes and being talked about. Listen to this. - We cannot necessarily look at all this in a vacuum, but we can be adults here, right? And understand, I hope that moving on from Bryce Shung after the first game with Dave Kanellis, who was brought in here to work with Bryce Shung and do what he did for Gino and Baker for Bryce, it wouldn't make a lot of sense to hire that coach and go through all this trouble this offseason to help Bryce Shung, then to say, actually, Bryce, nevermind, you're done. We're going to Andy Dalton. That doesn't make any sense at all. This organization did not swap a 2023 first-round picnic. You have to number one overall. They did not send a 2023 second that year that they got from the Christian McCaffrey trade. They did not send a number one overall pick in this past year's draft and a second round pick next year and DJ Moore to start Andy Dalton on Sunday against the Los Angeles Chargers. - Listen to this, man. Julia Council ripped it and he made a good point. And I'm going to piggyback off something you said last week here on lockdown NFL, that you were shocked that Dave Kanellis took that job. Now, I think guys just got to take jobs whenever they get them, but that's a weird situation with, I think, a pretty weird owner. And to me, the organization as a whole, I know they got damn organ up there running things now, they just always seem to do something that just screams lack of organizational structure. - Yeah, man, my man Harrison is featured as he. He watched 78 snaps of wheel 11s and he's just like, yeah, I don't know what to tell you about this one. That's wild, man. - Yeah, I mean, listen, you talk about a situation where you have a coach, and I have a lot of respect for Dave Kanellis. I really liked the dude. I think he's a very smart football person. I think he's got a great future ahead of him. That being said, there's a reason he took the Carolina Panthers job, right? He's the coach that took the job, nobody else wanted. And he took it because he's the coach that no other team would hire. Like, and I don't mean that as a negative, he doesn't have the experience. He doesn't have the track record. He doesn't have the resume yet to be hired, to be a head coach for the Los Angeles Chargers in the situation they're in, or the Washington commanders in the situation we're there in, because the thing about David Tepper, that David Tepper has kind of shown in his very short history as an NFL owner, is he is much, much, much more interested in finding the quick routes to winning a Super Bowl than he is to finding the right routes to winning a Super Bowl. Trading Christian McCaffrey, trading Brian Burns, trading DJ Moore, doing all this craziness, going after the sexy athletic quarterback, like, and you know, he can blame whatever other people he hired or whatever that he wants to for all decisions he made. It doesn't matter. At the end of the day, he's basically looked at it and said, you're not gonna be here for 10 years. So I'm gonna get rid of you. You're not gonna be here for 10 years. What he doesn't understand is that the foundation of an organization is not just the roster. The roster is obviously very important. What we see first, foremost on Sundays. But it's the culture of the team that you have. And some teams have an amazing culture of winning. Look at the Pittsburgh Steelers. It doesn't matter who they bring in there, who they drafted, who they signed, who got signed away, who got traded. The culture of that organization is we compete and we win. And we may not win it all. But dang it, we're gonna go out there and we're gonna win more games than we're gonna lose. That is the culture of that team. The Carolina Panthers right now have a culture of the second something doesn't go our way. We're gonna look for the Nuke button and we're gonna try to find a way to just go nuclear on this whole thing and figure out the biggest swing we can take to make the biggest move, to get the biggest return on our investment. I don't know how this man is a successful businessman 'cause you can't operate a business that way. And he's showing it with the Carolina Panthers. Listen, I don't know that that Bryce Young is ever gonna be a franchise quarterback in the National Football League. So I can tell you that Andy Dalton from Here on Out is never gonna be a franchise quarterback in the National Football League. So the question is, do you wanna find a franchise quarterback or don't you? And if you do, Bryce Young's your only shot. And if you wanna go with Andy Dalton, go with Andy Dalton. Do it, go for it, brother. Go for it. I hope Carson Beck works out for you next year. - Yeah, but I hope they look up. - Yeah, I hope they look up and see Baker Mayfield, maybe the two most efficient quarterbacks this past weekend with Baker Mayfield and Sam Donald. And then they realized that both of those guys were sitting right into their organization and they were like, nah, we don't want him, nah, we don't want him. And maybe you dump the wrong cargo sometimes. So one of the things that I did give you credit for last week, I don't even think you know, when you did a short about Sam Cosby. And my take on that was Washington's brass, some people said they were very inexperienced or whatever. They made two big decisions. They came in and realized that they were gonna part ways with John Dachshund. And then that's a wide receiver. But then they decided to help their young quarterback in Jaden Daniels and keep Sam Cosby and give him an extension. I think those moves indicate that they understand infrastructure and they understand that protecting Jaden Daniels is the number one priority and making sure he has the things around him that'll help him succeed. - Yeah, and I think that, you know, something that really bothered me when David Canales was first getting talked about as head coach at Cannon for Carolina and it still bothers me for this day is he resurrected Baker Mayfield. I think we like everybody is kind of start understanding. I understand the national talking heads don't want to do it because they don't want to get burned again because there was a time where the national media was very in love with Baker Mayfield and they all feel embarrassed now because he kind of fizzled out. And I don't want to get into the history of Baker Mayfield, you know, that's all we're here for today. But understand something, Baker Mayfield, what he's doing today, what he did on Sunday that I saw my own two eyes in Tampa as they beat the breaks of the Washington commanders. I saw him do the same types of things in Carolina. I saw him do the same types of things in LA and I dang sure saw him do the same types of things in Cleveland, okay? So nobody made Baker Mayfield, Baker Mayfield did, the question is, do you have the right chemistry between coach, scheme and player? That's the question and Baker Mayfield at one point in time there was that in Cleveland. It went away, it wasn't there in Carolina. It was actually kind of there in LA which is why Liam Cohen is now in Tampa instead of LA and Kentucky. And guess what? Now they've got that chemistry back. You saw the result. You saw the result in week one and you're going to see the result in this season if the Buccaneers can stay healthy. But it's not because Dave Canales arrived at Tampa and just stripped Baker down to parks and then rebuilt him up like some sort of robot. Like Baker is who Baker is. And one of the things about who Baker is is he's always going to be who he is and he's not going to change for any coach. So you've got to be able to play with your players. If Dave Canales can't be successful with Bryce Young from a scheme and personality standpoint and you need to separate the two. Make a decision, David Tupper. But you created this situation. And I'm not saying David says his victim anyway but you're not a victim of the circumstances. You're the creator of the circumstances. But if this team goes to Andy Dalton, you need to trade Bryce Young. You need to trade Bryce. If you have any hope of anybody in the NFLPA believe in you are an organization that takes care of his players. If you bench Bryce Young, you need to trade him because that just doesn't make any sense. - Yeah, they're going to ruin him. They're going to definitely ruin him, man. And we ain't ruining nothing to hear on Lockdown NFL. In fact, we got something new going. The Lockdown NFL, the new Lockdown NFL is here. It's two shows every day first, the Madman Tyler Roland, who you heard from earlier. He hits you with the double shot of NFL Espresso and then come on by the barbershop with me, Tony Wiggins, where we just get all in everybody's business and try to make sense out of it. Add in the local experts and guess what? You get unprecedented NFL insight, hot topics, detailed breakdowns all in 30 minutes. It's the new Lockdown NFL and it's twice a day. Make the Madman Tyler Roland and the barber, Tony Wiggins, your second listen at the new Lockdown NFL on YouTube or wherever you get your podcast. Now, one of the surprises this week was the way that the Bengals got beat up by New England. They bullied him. Maybe New England has found an identity and then the fellas over at Peacock and Williamson podcast made a bold prediction. We're going to see how that's standing up after one week. We'll do all of that in just a second here. Third, find a second on Lockdown NFL. All right, today's show is sponsored by eBay Motors. And let me tell you something about eBay Motors, man. They got a lot in common with football. Passion driving patients. It's the formula for winning championships and it's also what keeps your ride or die alive. eBay Motors has everything you need to maintain your vehicle and level it up to peak performance. Superchargers, roof racks, exhaust kits, LED headlights and more, whether you're in the speed or power or style, eBay Motors has you covered. 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We're gonna bully you to death and we're gonna see if you can stay in tall and obviously the Bengals were not up to the task. Listen to the guys up at locked on New England Patriots and their perspective on what happened this Sunday. - We were wondering what the identity of this team is going to be and it's a bully identity. All right, but it's a controlled bullying. All right, they came at Cincinnati with one purpose in mind to bully them, to beat them up and to let them know that they were gonna be in a football game and it was a beautiful thing. Whether it was dugger or peppers or Jalen Hawkins or anybody on that side of the ball. It was you knew that they were there. They made their presence felt and you knew you were going to get hit if we were catching the ball on Sunday afternoon and a lot of, quite frankly, the Bengals stopped wanting to catch the football. - That's a bad look. When somebody say basically you had scared money. Like you didn't wanna pay the tax for that real estate. That is not a good look for the Bengals. When you consider that, Omar is millions of six, seven, 342 pounds and he's the third biggest offense alive and they have because of baby Zeus Orlando Brown and they went up and got a New England's big guy who's the biggest one. He's like six, eight, three other than 60 pounds. The Patriots didn't seem to miss him and Keon White, guys like Keon White, Keon White had three sacks. That means that all of that potential for that young man that third year player out of Georgia Tech looks like it's about to turn the corner. Christian Barmore has already been extended and I think Christian Gonzalez is a good player. All of a sudden you look at that defense and these kids that Bill Belichick drafted and they said he couldn't pick, guess what? They're turning out to be okay and New England might be on to something. - Isn't it ironic how that works? - Yep. - But you know what, at the same time they got a new coach and look, this coach might have come from the Bill Belichick tree, but he's not Bill Belichick. So who knows if this thing goes as well as it does, Bill Belichick is still there. But kind of similar to what we talked about with Will Levis. The New England Patriots generated a quarterback sack, a hit or a pressure, 10 times. So they got to the opposing quarterback, the Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow. They actually got to him in a pressure type of measurement, less than Will Levis received pressure. To Tyler Rowan's defense, Will Levis getting pressured, you know, second most times of week one. But they generated three sacks. They allowed two completions, two incompletions, one scramble, one defensive penalty and one play that was negated by offsetting penalties. So that means in those 10 pressures, they had a 60% win rate, which I think you want to win more than that when you're getting pressured. But without those penalties, which are self-inflicted injuries, right, you have an 80% win rate. That's the key right there, is that you're getting a high percentage of win rate with your pressures. You're not just getting pressure, you're turning those pressures into successful plays. One of those sacks generated by White was just him simply winning as one on one. And you just simply beat Trent Brown off the right side of the New England Patriots formation. The second was an effective collapse by the pocket pressure and a blitzing linebacker taking out a backfield helper. You have that chip blocker coming up to help double team a guy, the blitzing linebacker said, "Nah, bro, you're going to come over here with me "and allow the pocket to collapse." The third sack was an effective pocket disciplined by the pass rush. They contained Joe Burrow, didn't get too aggressive. And that's the key there if you want to be aggressive. But an overly aggressive Joe Burrow got flushed, but he only had one place to go right into the hands of key on White. That is how you do it. Now there's some other plays and there's a scramble by Joe Burrow where you see the defensive end get too aggressive and basically run right around the quarterback. You're just open in the door up to the side of the formation and say, "Here Joe, go ahead and flash what athleticism you do have." So there's certainly some mistakes there, but what it shows overall when you look at all those pressures is that the New England Patriots, first of all, they've got a very disciplined crew that are doing for the most part exactly what they're assigned to do, but also they have the ability and it's one week. So let's not get too crazy either way, right? But in this one week, they show the ability to create pressure with four down linemen. So when you can put that many people in your secondary or in the second level of the defense to protect against the passing game, that is how you keep a quarterback like Joe Burrow grounded and that is how you do what the New England Patriots were able to do. But I also want to give them a little bit, I want to booboo them a little bit because nothing to noise me more wiggly when a team has potential and they spend a first round draft pick on a quarterback, they have no business starting in the first place and I look at the New England Patriots, you know the New York Giants wanted a quarterback, we all saw hard knocks. You trade that number three overall, pick to number six, the New York Giants come up and they take Drake May potentially or JJ McCarthy, whoever they're going to take and guess what? At number six, if you just need to have that developmental quarterback in your roster, fine. You take them at number six and then you take all that draft capital that you just picked up from the New York Giants on top of it and you help out Jacobi Brissette because while the New England Patriots are getting after Joe Burrow, Jacob Brissette is out there having a relatively solid day, 75 pass or rating, not great, but not terrible, but when he's only got Austin Hooper, KJ Osborne, Hunter Henry out there to throw to, I mean, what do you expect the man to do? But if you use some draft capital, you go get him, I don't know, Brian Thomas Jr., not to take him away from your Jags wig, but if you go get him some weapons, you might be the Cincinnati Bengals 24 to 10 and now people are really talking about your team. - Yeah, but even with that, I'll give them credit, they picked their guy number three and guess what they're doing? They got him waiting over there, they ain't trying to-- - At least they made that, you're right. - Yeah, at least they were smart there, 'cause they're smart and draft capital, let's start a guy who's ready for the job. - Yeah, you just sit over here and we're gonna protect you that way. Now, the guys at Peacock and Williamson, everybody knows Matt Williamson joins me on Fridays, right here on lockdown NFL. They pick, I'm not picking on 'em now, 'cause we talk about the Bengals, right? But after one week, I wonder if the take that they had, they'll take it back and then I'm gonna let you listen to it and I'm gonna let you tell me if you would switch up and say something different after only one week. - Worse to first, who is it? Nas on Twitter says every year for the last eight or so seasons a team has finished last in their division, ends up winning the division the next year. Which team do you think has the best chance of doing that this year? - The obvious one here is the victims. I know that their division is the hardest of all eight of these candidates, but I have a couple bucks on Joe Barrow to win MVP. I am going to pick the Bengals to win this division. I think they can win the super. Who's your second choice? Mine's the Bears. - I think I gotta pick the Bears because I just think they have the best team, how quickly does their young quarter, like if it's the CJ Stroud situation, then let's go, right? And I guess you could say the same for Washington. I think right now though, looking at 22 starters, I like Chicago over Washington. - This is Peacock and Williamson. - All right, listen, do you stick with the Bengals at number one after only one week or do you cut bait baby and go ahead and move on to somebody else? That's what I got these Clippers for, but we can get rid of it. We can get rid of an opinion real quick and act like it never existed. So what do you think? Is it, in your opinion, the Bears or the Bengals and can you make that determination after only one week? - I don't think you can make a firm determination either way, but I think when you consider the NFL game starts to the quarterback position, right? Obviously, from all the teams that finished last place in their divisions last year, Joe Burrow was the best quarterback of all those teams and Joe Burrow didn't play for a lot of those games when they won nine games last year. So that helps you out, right? Justin Herbert, probably the second best with the Los Angeles Chargers, but even with him playing with Harbaugh, I don't see them unceding the Kansas City Chiefs, but the Baltimore Ravens have, potentially the tightest grip on a division of any team out here, especially if the Cleveland Browns are gonna fall apart and all that stuff. So like from one angle, you wanna go Bengals 'cause Joe Burrow's a better quarterback, but at the other side, the Detroit Lions, like, yeah, they're a great story. And yes, they were a really good team late last year, especially, but they haven't proven it in multiple seasons yet. So because of that, there's a little bit of question mark of, are they actually gonna be able to pull it off and be that same type of team? So that kind of, you would look at it and say that's more of an open door for the Chicago Bears. But I think if you look at, you know, the combination of the two, and then you actually would look at the Tennessee Titans, even though I don't think it's gonna happen, like the Tennessee Titans don't have a great quarterback themselves, but the Houston Texans, they've only had the one really good year. So again, they've gotta prove it again this year. CJ Shroud's gotta prove it again this year with every coach that he faces now having a full year of tape on them, and that's always hard to do. And so I would say that's the most susceptible division to a worse to first opening outside of the NFC South, but the Carolina Panthers are a dumpster fire. So yeah, I don't know. I think there's a good amount of options out there, but I think if I had to bet money on one of these teams, it'd be Joe Burrow in the Cincinnati Bengals, just because I'm not gonna bet on Joe Burrow to be less successful than Caleb Williams. - Yeah, so here's what I think. I think they gotta get T Higgins healthy, get him back. They gotta get Jamal Chase paid. He shouldn't have to chase him back. He's too good. I know he's asking for his money a little bit early, but just get it on out of the way. I think if they do that, things will settle down, and maybe, you know, NFL players are like that, man. Sometimes they're like, oh man, we got all these problems going on. Jamal, we don't know if he's gonna plays out there saying, I don't know if a game time decision, all that. Those things are distractions. And if you're gonna win, those things have to disappear, and the way that they disappear is, you gotta cut and check, baby. Cut and check and give some money. That's what I do, and I try to end all of that stuff and make Joe Baro, Jamal Chase, and everybody else very happy. So we're gonna give Matt Williams some a little grace and say, I'll still hang on to that bet. I ain't gonna pick the bears just yet because they were in trouble. They were losing the game the other day. That quarterback threw for like a hundred yards. So let's not overreact after one week. It's never an overreaction for you to join us here on lockdown NFL because you get a double dose of it. That's right. Tyler Roland, the man man kicks it off in the morning with a double shot of NFL Expresso. And then you swing by the barbershop. We ain't drinking the Expresso. 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