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NFL Buy or Sell: Justin Herbert, Jim Harbaugh Revive Chargers | Jordan Love, Packers Win NFC North?

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Christopher Carter and James Rapien play a buy or sell game on NFL topics. Will Justin Herbert and Jim Harbaugh revive the Los Angeles Chargers? Can Jordan Love return the Green Bay Packers to NFC North champs? Will the NFC East streak of no back-to-back champs continue?

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What time is it? Game time. And it is also a buyer sell time here on locked on NFL and Chris, there's two narratives around the Chargers right now that are being discussed. I think a lot, whether it's nationally, certainly the Chargers beat knocked on Chargers have hit on these topics. First one, Jim Harbaugh. He wins everywhere. He won with the 49ers, obviously one way back in the day with Stanford and is coming off of a national championship with Michigan, turn to Michigan around. And now the Chargers expecting the same. And so the narrative is that Harbaugh is going to come in and win. Another narrative around the Chargers is that Justin Herbert's arm is going to be retired because all Harbaugh wants to do is run it. Are you buying those narratives? Are you selling them? How do you feel about the Chargers? I am selling that Jim Harbaugh will just run the football. I think he will play to the strength of his team. And you look at the way the team's assembled right now. I think the big problem with Justin Herbert is he doesn't have an established superstar wide receiver. You know, they've got young guys that are hoping can develop in lead, McConkie, Quentin Johnson has just been, you know, dropped city so far. They went and got DJ Chark. They got, well, this lead tight end Hayden, hers, but like no, no one's really separating there as far as expectations go. And so then you turn to your offensive line and you see two of their best, the biggest inventspets in the last few years in Rashaun Slater and Joe Alt at tackle right there. So I look at that and I think maybe he's thinking not lean into the run a whole lot, but balance this offense a bit more so that Justin Herbert doesn't have to just chuck the ball around all day every day. So I'm not, I'm not something he's going to over, over, you know, buy into the run. But I do buy into that this team is going to be better this year with a good, I've said for years. I didn't think Brandon Staley was that good of a coach. I thought he was holding this, this roster back. I think this roster still has a lot of talent on it, whether it's Derwin James, whether it's Joey Bosa, you know, whether it's Khalil Mack or Asante Samuel Jr. and top of Justin Herbert and those guys, they do, they need to put things together, absolutely. But I think the Chargers can be a real threat. So I'll, I'll buy them being a real threat this year. Jim Harbaugh only goes where he's going to find success. And he, he, when he, when he smells, it's got to be a problem. He dips out. We saw that with San Francisco and we saw it with Stanford. We see that with Michigan now and he gets out after the national championship. So I look at that and I think he knows, he knows what he's doing. The Chargers are going to be a competitive team this year. What say you? I agree. I actually think the Chargers could be really darn good and part of it is just straight coaching. You see it every year, there's a, a first year coach and obviously he's an experience, as experienced as any first year coach is going to be, but the first year coach leap. And so elite quarterback and I do think Justin Herbert is elite now or top eight or whatever you want to say, he's a really good player. And so you combine that with a coach who's been there, done that and yeah, will they run it some weeks? I'm sure. I also think that they're going to throw it when they need to and that's the, that's where I kind of dismissed this idea that they're just going to be this defense run game, punt the ball first to 17 wins. That's not today's NFL. So that's just, and you have Justin Herbert. It's not like you have a quarterback that you have to do that with. So I buy the Chargers from a playoff standpoint. I think they're going to be right there in the thick of it. Not winning the AFC West, but certainly in the AFC playoff mix, I'll sell the idea that this is going to be three and a half yards and a cloud of dust. And the first one, like I said to 17, more than go 15 wins. I just don't think that that's logical. And I think Jim is smart enough to know that. So I like the Chargers overall. I will buy them as a team selling the idea that the receivers aren't going to get work. It's because Keenan Allen isn't in town, just because Mike Williams, who knows what he would have been if he stayed in town. I get they moved on from those guys. I still think they're going to throw the ball. I think so too. You got to in Justin Herbert's your quarterback, even with the wide receiver situation they have, they'll find a way to make it work. I think that they'll be forging that path. I think he'll take some time to come together, but I think he'll bring him together because he's done that in several places he's gone now. Yeah. No doubt. No doubt. When you look across the AFC, it just makes it that much more challenging, I would say, you know, whether it's the charts, the, the Chiefs trying to, to three-peat. And maybe that's the next one. We didn't discuss this one, but I was like, do it by our cell. The Chiefs can repeat and be the first team to do it. I am by that they can. I wouldn't buy it. They will. I think that the Chiefs are still a well-run organization. They're still a team that has, you know, the key pieces in place, namely Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, and a lot of that defense. But I also think that you only stay on top of the NFL for so long. I think there's a lot of teams that have been gunning for them. They had, I mean, and like every championship run comes with its own bounces that go your way. And like, I get, you know, something I wonder when people talk about things so definitively, you know, the, the Ravens, they can't, they can't do it with any playoff games and the Chargers are to actually do that. The Chiefs, their third is unstoppable. If Zayflowers doesn't fumble at the goal line, are we talking like that? Are the Ravens the one that was in the Super Bowl this year? Like this, that's how small, that's how small of a margin of victories it can be sometimes. So I'm, I'm buying it. They can because they have the talent. I'm not buying it. They will though, because I, I'm going to sell that because I do think, you know, what teams like the Ravens, teams like the Bills, teams like the Bengals, teams like, you know, I even say the Texans with the way that they came on last year, I think that the AFC loaded with a lot of really good teams that can knock off Kansas City at some point. And that's where I think that there could be some damage here. Some selling that they will do it. But if you ask me, do they have the potential to do it? Absolutely. They have that. That team is still locked and loaded, ready to go. Yeah. I think you phrased it the right way. I tried to get you and you said, I'm not getting got and it makes a ton of sense because that's like, what'd it shock me if they won? No, we've seen it right there done that. And can you imagine a scenario where they find the next Tyree kill, that's what they're thinking. That's what they're worthy worthy, that's what they're hoping. And if, if he is that dude, and I don't mean Tyree kill seriously, but like a dude that can take the top off, he still have Travis Kelsey, really like Isaiah Pacheco. I see writes, say what you want about however long he's going to miss, but when he's out there, he can play. He's a good player. You could see the path. They bring back Juju Smith-Shuster, who's an upgrade from a Skymore, right? I think he's, he can give them a little bit more than that, even if he is close to done with that knee issue, like, I like what they've done. And so there's, there's reason to believe it. And I do think that the Chiefs should be the favorites again. And rightfully so. And obviously that begins and ends with Patrick Mahomes. Absolutely. As long as he's there, they're going to be favorites to win it all until someone else de-thrones them. But who else could de-thron them? And who are some of these other quarterbacks out here, James? That's a big part of what we're going to be talking about next in the buyer cell, because I think there's, there's still a lot of young quarterbacks that are saying, Hey, it's my turn to get a chance to be on top. Yeah, I can't wait. Let's, let's get into it. We have a ton to get to with buyer cell and we will do that coming up next. Today's show is brought to you by Game Time. Game Time is the app you need right now because, well, there's plenty of live events going on as summer wraps up as the NFL season kicks off. I'm going to a Thomas Rhett concert later this week. 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I want to ask you in the NFC North, where the Detroit Lions of all franchises reign supreme at this point in time by yourself that this is the year that Jordan love takes over and returns the Packers to their glory to win the NFC North. Bye. Whoa, I like a lot about this Packers team. I think Jordan love took a step at the end of last year and I like all of the weapons. And so I look at golf and I look at the Lions and man, you look at that roster and I feel really darn good and maybe they make a Super Bowl run by the way. But I also think that the Packers are ascending. And by the end of this season, who do you think is going to be the better quarterback Jordan love or Jared golf? Jordan love. Well, what is it? It's a quarterback lead, baby. There's a reason why we're buying the Chargers, at least to a degree, it's because they have Justin Herbert at quarterback as much as Harbaugh matters. If they had Gardner Minshu at quarterback, I don't think we would be buying the three and a half yards in a cloud of dust and all of those things. Right. Like, so to me, when I look at this NFC North, do the Lions have the better roster? Sure. No doubt. And that superstar talent, that proven talent, love it. But the Packers have a really darn good roster in the guy at quarterback that has the higher ceiling that to me has already had like last year had the higher highs now. Because Jared Goff going to be calm, cool, collected, be good most weeks as the pieces around him. Like, I love Jameer Gibbs. I obviously think that Amman Ross St. Brown is one of the best receivers in the league. And then who knows? Maybe Jameson Williams, maybe it's Jameson Williams season. You never know. Like, that would be the wild card, I think, in Detroit for them to take a big step forward. And I know they were great on offense already, but no, I'm going to buy it. I think that Jordan love and the Packers, they take their rightful spot in the NFC North and I'm sure that there are Bears fans right now that are clenching their fists as well. They're like, God, we just got Caleb Williams, give us some love here guys. Sorry. Bears still got a lot of weight, a long way to go in my eyes to get up in this conversation. But to your point about Jordan love, I buy that they're going to be in the conversation. I'm not sure if I buy it, they win just yet because I look at, I look at them and I think that they'll be right in the mix. It could be a coin for, but I'm not just handing it over to them. I think that Detroit Lions still got something to say about that. I also look at how their season went last year. And the Packers, remember, they stumbled out of the gate. I mean, they were flat on their face. A lot of people were laughing and talking about like this, this team, this team's done. Jordan love and it, they started out two and five and then they finished six and two in their last eight games. And they were some impressive wins in those last eight games, including on the road against the Lions at home, again, against the Chiefs, yes, they did lose to the Giants and Buccaneers, but they were able to win those games and they did finish against the kind of easier schedule with the Panthers, the Josh Dobbs Vikings and the Chicago Bears. But this is still an offense that I think is going to take off this year. This is still a team that still has plenty of talent on it. I think they'll be in the mix, but I am not sold on them necessarily winning the division. I still think the Lions got that roster that are going to be a problem. One thing's for sure that it's going to be appointment television when those two teams face off against each other twice this season, certainly going to be a big thing there. All right. Next topic, Marvin Harrison Jr., is he the next great receiver in the NFL? Seems James, like we could say, we could ask that every single year about somebody that comes into the NFL as a wide receiver, the wide receiver position is just constantly producing more talent. Here's Marvin Harrison, the junior, that guy by yourself. Bye. Bye. Why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't you? I feel you. Kyle Murray has all the physical trades you're looking for except height. Okay. Well, he can throw it. Right. Like he might be my height or a little shorter, but he can throw that ball all over the dang field and Marvin Harrison's going to go get it. And for me, he reminds me and it's just eerily similar. You don't hear from him like you see Marvin Harrison Jr. on social media? I'm sure he has it. I don't see him. I don't notice him. He's AJ Green, like just silent, just very quiet. You want that, especially from your wide receivers kind of built the same a little thicker. Like, and I don't know if he's a strong AJ green was a freak strength wise, but the point is that's what I expect from him. So 1000 yards easy this year, number one receiver, easy this year, a guy, hopefully my league mates are ignoring this part. But any fantasy league I'm in targeting him because I think he's going to get targeted on the field of time this year. And I think he's he's the most sure fire bet for the next great receiver. And I look at what these receivers are getting paid like on our last show, they were talking about obviously the CD lamb deal, Jamar Chase, Brandon, I you can you imagine what Marvin Harrison Jr. is going to get paid when he's awesome. You're talking about 50 plus million dollars per year. You might be the first one. That might be the guy that hits the 50 plus million. That's how bullish I am on Marvin Harrison Jr. Three years from now, that's what he could be making. He is a stud. And I think he's going to hit the ground running right away. I would say 80 catches 12 to 1300 yards and he might have double digit touchdowns. Like that's kind of what I'm expecting from Marvin Harrison Jr. I buy that he's going to be a great wide receiver. I don't but here's the thing like who's number one. Is he going to be the future number one or is someone else going to hold that title because I think in recent years, you know, we started we started to see more first round picks, you know, be it be those be that guy, you know, and you know, the guys that were picked at the top of their draft, but you know, like Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, they're there in those conversations. But in recent years, we've seen the best receiver be guys like Devonta Adams who were taking in the second round or, you know, we go further back to Antonio Brown, taking in the sixth round. This is one thing I've noticed about the wide receiver position, James, you know, people say that running back is the is the devalued position in the NFL and not that wide receivers devalued, but I think that the amount of great talent that comes in the draft is so frequent now that it's made it's made the market tough on second and third tier wide receivers that are just trying to get paid, you know, decent contracts in the NFL because they're like, why do we need to pay you that whole that bunch of money when we can go draft somebody else and just get and get that kind of talent again and take a good shot at that. And I think that that's that's kind of where people are right now. So I think Marvin Harrison Jr., though, I think he'll be in that elite conversation, which is why I think he will be a great wide receiver. But as far as well, do I think that he'll be he'll eventually be the best wide receiver in the NFL? I don't know about that because I think there's a lot of really talented receivers. And every year we learn about some more really talented receivers that are coming on through. So, do I love the prospect though, absolutely. Do I think they'll be the best? There's way too much. I'll take the field just of the sheer odds that there are that there's someone else that's going to that's going to blow it up. All right. Let's stick to the draft club with the draft class real quick. Would you would you take neighbors over him? Oh, no, he's still in number one of this class like if I was if I was to pick up the rookies this year, but like what would I say that about next year? What I say that about the 2023 Jeff, like I'm not sure if I would rank him there. Like if I was to put him where I think that he'll finish right now among the NFL receivers, I think he could finish in the top 10, but we'll but he has but he has a lot of competition to some. I mean, everyone's talking about how great Brandon and I you kids and why everyone has to trade for Brandon and I you Brandon, you can't even top five receiver. Like he just he's like in the bottom of the top 10 in my opinion. So like where does Marvin Harrison Jr. fit in that? Does he get it? Does he crack the top five right away or does he does he does he work his way up? Take coming. I would take Marvin Harrison Jr. right now over Brandon, I you absolutely take the rookie on a rookie deal, but no, no, no, same contract. Whatever the contract is. You want to put a you on the rookie deal or you want to put Marvin Harrison Jr. on the knee. I you deal that he's looking for whatever I would take Marvin Harrison Jr. I would need to see I would need to see him in the NFL. I think he'll be great in the NFL, but if I as a G of you, you tell me I got to pay this dude $30 million right now without seeing him take a snap in the NFL. Yeah, that'd be a little tough. I think Marvin Harrison Jr. part of it is the contract, but has way more trade value than brand. Oh, no, okay. I hear you on that. Yeah. If all things are equal, like I just think younger, higher ceiling, all of the above, but I think we both agree he should be great expectations high, will he be the best receiver in the league? TBD on that. That's a high bar. Could he end up being the best receiver in his family? That's an even higher bar. Never know when it comes to that, but let's continue because we have more by or sell coming up next. If you are looking to refinance or get a loan right now, let me tell you about Intercap Lending. Intercap Lending is one of the largest independent lenders in the country. They are hyper responsive. They embrace change and their borrower experience is absolutely fabulous. At lockdown, we have our own personal loan officer, Intercap Lending. His name is Steve Carter. And if you call him and tell him you're locked on, you get the corporate discount. 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I think Jaden Daniels has a good lead on that just because of his situation with the commanders. They have a lot of room to make up in the NFC East. So I'm going to look at Jaden Daniels' situation. And I'm going to think, mmm, look, I just quarterbacks often win that job. I wouldn't be surprised if a quarterback didn't win the job, but I usually lean, if I'm looking at the odds and I'm looking at how things shake out, I kind of want to take the quarterbacks there at Jaden Daniels. What say you though? Caleb Williams, plus 120 is the favorite, according to fans. I just, I just don't know, man, the Bears mess it up all the time with quarterback. Jaden Daniels don't have a, the commanders don't have a great record either there. I just, uh, Jaden Daniels, I thought we were six hundred. That's why I like the one. If you want. I thought. Marvin Harrison Jr. right behind him, plus six fifty, Bownex plus eleven hundred, Drake May plus fourteen hundred Malik neighbors, plus fifteen hundred. And then you're getting into Xavier Worthy, Keon Coleman, guys like that. But to me, like Daniels at plus six hundred, Bownex at plus eleven hundred is kind of juicy. I got to tell you, like, what if the Bronco, like, he's probably going to put up these numbers this year. Yeah. What if the Broncos win 10 games and he puts up numbers, you'd be on the positive side of it. Plus eleven hundred. Yeah. You would be on the positive side. That is fair to say. I do think Jaden Daniels, honestly, Jaden Daniels and Marvin Harrison Jr. would be the two. You just don't get great money for Caleb Williams right now. But Daniels and Harrison, both guys could translate. I think that's a, that's certainly a big question. I want to split back to some division talk real quick. We talked about Jordan Love. I want to talk about another young quarterback, CJ Stroud. By herself, CJ Stroud, still leading the Texans to winning the AFC South because that's a division now with a lot of young quarterbacks, Anthony Richardson. Got Will Levis. You got Trevor Lawrence. I still say CJ Stroud is the best of those four quarterbacks. But do you buy them just winning the AFC South? All right. I buy it, but I think it's close and I'm certainly not handing them the division. I think the Colts could win that division. I think people are just kind of sleeping on Jacksonville now and just dismissing them. And I'm not there yet. I'm not ready to dismiss the Jaguars. The Titans are sneaky. They could be the team that they upset the Titans and now the Colts are tied for the division lead with a couple of weeks left. Like I could totally see that. And I don't know what the schedule is like. I would need to look to see when they play so that that example might not actually apply disclaimer. But the point is is like you have a sneaky team in the Titans who if Will Levis is good, they should be pretty decent. And that's a big if. But who knows? I think the Colts are going to be very competitive. I believe in Shane Steichen and I like Anthony Richardson and to me the weapons around him pretty darn solid that they really are in the Josh Downs kids coming back. I think he's going to be all right health wise and then Adam and I Mitchell and Michael Pittman Jr. That's a heck of a trio with Jonathan Taylor in the backfield. So I like it. I think Texans, but if you're looking at favorites and odds and things, I would like the Colts and the value that comes with them. So I'll buy the Texans when the division, but I certainly think it's going to be competitive. Yeah, I think it's going to be a little bit tighter than it was last year, particularly because Anthony Richardson will be healthy. The Colts were pretty competitive last year in the first place even without Anthony Richardson. I think that he's going to add a level of a, I think he's going to be a nice boost to what they're looking for there. But yeah, sir, I mean, the Texans, another thing to remind ourselves, the Texans were 10 and seven last year. They weren't. They weren't a 12 win team that ran away with division. They barely eked out both the Jaguars and the Colts. I'm a little skeptical in the Jaguars because of how they fell apart last year. There was a part last season where like they, kind of like the pack, we're talking about the Packers, the Jaguars started out on fire and then completely fell apart late in the season. That makes me a little worrisome about what the direction they're headed. The Colts, we're obviously dealing with a lot going into that, going into the rest of the season. So I give them a pass, but I'll say I'll buy the Texans winning. But like you, I think this is a little bit closer because even though there's a lot of excitement for CJ Stroud, I still think there's a lot of this Texans roster that still has to mature and grow into itself around him. So I think it's going to be a tight race and, but the Texans end up on top. Yeah. I think that that's fair. I do. And we'll see from a Texans standpoint, it's different when there's pressure on you. They were like the fun up and comer last year. And honestly, the Titans kind of remind me that way of the Texans, like the moves they've made, like they've added, added quality pieces. They've added a luxurious need. They go out and they get Calvin Ridley. They spend big money in free agency. They go get Tony Pollard as well. They get a starting center, like they've added a bunch of pieces. And the Texans did that last off season. And people are like Dalton Schultz and Sheldon Rankins and they're all right. Well, you look up and they weren't just all right. They were a playoff team and they got hot at the right time. And so who is the next year's Texans? I'm not saying it's going to be the Titans, but I do think that they could be kind of sneaky, especially when it comes to that first year coach syndrome. One thing I think looking at the NFC South that everyone just kind of assumes now, especially with the recent additions on defense. The Atlanta Falcons, not only favorites, but people, I think some at least expect them to coast in that division and win the division. You buying the Falcons and the NFC South? I'm sorry, I got to see Kirk Cousins in this, in this, in this team. So again, I think the Buccaneers came on strong last year, Bakers, but he was fitting in really well. They still got Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, which make his life really, really easy or not easy, but makes life simpler at the quarterback position there. I think the NFC South, if we're looking at all the divisions, is still a division that's on the bottom of the NFC in general. I think the Falcons could jump in there and do really well, but I wouldn't be shocked if it's another season where the winner of this division is nine and eight, and there's two teams or even three teams hovering around there. Will they do the Atlanta Falcons have a shot? Absolutely. I think that they've assembled some talent. They got a new coach. They'll be figuring some things out there. But I also look at the Saints, the Buccaneers, and think, you know what? I think they're in the same exact spot, you know, whereas they could, they have strengths to their team that could beat out against the Falcons. So I'm going to say I'll buy it they could, but I think it's going to be just a giant mess in the NFC South when we get to December and asking who's going to make the playoffs from that division. Yeah. I agree. I think they could. But I'm not buying them enough, even though they had Justin Simmons, even though they trade from Matt Judon, and I think Simmons and Bates together are just going to be nasty in that safety in that secondary room. I like Kyle Pitts and think it's going to work. I like all these things. They have depth that quarterback behind an old quarterback and Kirk Cousins coming off of an injury with a guy Michael Pinnock's like they're set up for a decent amount of success. And yet I'm still here saying, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. We'll see. And it's it's really no knock on the Falcons. It's just those other teams are talented in the division. I think the Saints, they try to be competitive every year. They've added pieces. It's a tough place to play. And you mentioned it with the Buccaneers and what they were able to do last year. So that being said, I do think Carolina is clearly the fourth best team. Yes. Yeah. And they're literally looking up at the competition right now and we'll see if they can be competitive. That would be fun if the Panthers were one of those surprise teams that were a bit more competitive than we expect. My last fire cell for you here, James. Because the streak of not having back-to-back division winners for the NFC East, which dates back to 2004 was the last time they had a back-to-back winner, that was when the Eagles won the division four years in a row. But since then, there has been a division winner, different division winner every single year, whether it's the Giants, the Eagles, the Cowboys, or Washington. Looking at that this year, Dallas Cowboys were division, division winners. Do they repeat or does the streak continue? Buy yourself. Well, I guess buy yourself on the streak, continue. I will sell the streak because, well, there's a couple of reasons. One, if Jane Daniels is offensive rookie of the year, I would share the commanders aren't in that mix. Two, I think the Eagles have enough talent that they're going to be in the mix. Three, the Cowboys are so worried about running back that on Tuesday, they're working out Dalvin Cook. And so when you tie all that together, and I get they got the CD Lamb deal done, back Prescott still needs to get paid, Mike Apperson still needs to get paid. It's Jerry Jones. It's a lot of distractions. You have a coach going into essentially a prove it lame duck season with Mike McCarthy. It just feels like it could explode. And you could make that case for the Eagles as well, but I just think one of these other teams is going to emerge. Maybe it is the commanders. They buy the Giants, but no, I think that it'll be it'll be the the commanders or the Eagles to win that division. I'm going to buy that the streak continues. I sell the Cowboys like you. I think that they the Cowboys don't win it back to back. Oh, yeah. That it continues. I think I said sell, but I said, well, we know I was selling the Cowboys. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm selling the Cowboys, too. I think that I just look at this division. It's way too competitive. It's like a curse that if you win the division one, you definitely win it the next year. I think the Eagles are coming on strong. Like you said, I think Washington can be has it. And I just think that the Cowboys got a lot of holes on their roster. And I think they're going to have to pay the Piper soon with some of the problems that they have not addressed. Even though they just signed CD Lamb to this huge mega deal, I think that I think it was good for them to keep him, but I think they still got a lot of other problems. So selling on or no, by me into the street continuing the NFC East will have another new champion in 2024. Yeah. Well, I won't say I hope so, but I hope it's a competitive division. And I want to see it go down to the wire. I want to see some drama and some competitiveness. Hopefully we get that. We are almost there, Chris. The regular season is almost there. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button on YouTube, follow wherever you get your podcast. And for Chris Carter, I'm James R'Pene. Thank you so much for listening and watching Lockdown NFL a prime members. You can listen to this locked on podcast ad free on Amazon music. Download the Amazon music app today. (upbeat music)