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Coming up, it's the first MUST WIN of the season! We'll show you why a Cowboys loss would mean the D in Big D stands for DONE! Plus, we fire up the HOT TAKE TIME MACHINE on Jayden Daniels AND ask the question: Are the Bears Failing Caleb Williams? The Answer is Next! And, Aaron Rodgers reveals what will be the Jets BIGGEST STRUGGLE this season. Here's a hint... it NOT what you think.... find out next. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Coming up, it's the first MUST WIN of the season! We'll show you why a Cowboys loss would mean the D in Big D stands for DONE! Plus, we fire up the HOT TAKE TIME MACHINE on Jayden Daniels AND ask the question: Are the Bears Failing Caleb Williams? The Answer is Next! And, Aaron Rodgers reveals what will be the Jets BIGGEST STRUGGLE this season. Here's a hint... it NOT what you think.... find out next.

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All right, do not miss the UFC on ESPN plus Saturday afternoon. The prelims begin at noon Eastern followed by the main card, highlighted by the lightweight main event. All right, with that, we welcome you back to get up live from the C-Port brought to by Chase Football Squad is here. We have, um, Chanet is here as well, unbelievable moment in sports here, Caitlin Clark and the fever. Their season comes to an end last night. We've been all over that and then the NFL weekend begins tonight with, I think, a must big win for the Cowboys here against the Giants. Let's look at some burning questions in week four of this NFL season. Then let's talk about Sunday night, Buffalo Baltimore will Lamar Jackson outplay Josh Allen. I'm going to say no. One Josh has got as good an offensive coordinator in football right now and Joe Brady, the way that they have protected him, the way that they're using pre-step motion, the different people that he has to throw the football to. It's remarkable to watch the wagon and Buffalo and Buffalo's defense always gives Baltimore and Lamar trouble just because the discipline style that they play with in their gap scheme. Both will play well. I think Josh has the better night. Right now, Allen, the overwhelming favorite for MVP. A J-Mack. Well, Jalen Hertz turnovers doom the Eagles against Tampa. Yes, it will. The combination of his turnovers also with some of the decisions that Nick Sierra Leone are making. It is going to bring them down to the interceptions he has so far this year have been in the end zone while they're going into score and they're taking the ball away. He cannot continue to do that if this Eagle team is going to be able to get to where they want. There's so many injuries on that offense as well. And then Kmart says Dak needs to dominate tonight and it must win for the Cowboys against the Giants. Grini, he has to because clearly he can't rely on his defense. Listen, this is a Giants team that they have scored by 72 points last season. They historically do well against the Giants. If they lose this game, I said it earlier, panic at the disco. This is going to be a big problem in Dallas. Well, listen, I can actually put some numbers to that, or at least I can put a schedule to that. Look what they have coming up after this game against the Giants. The Steelers are unbeaten. The Lions will run the ball for a thousand yards in that game. The Niners will do the same. The Falcons, I think, are going to start continuing to play better. You can find me three wins on that screen. Four wins. If they don't win tonight, the Cowboys could find themselves buried. Dan, this early in the season, and you find stuff out about teams when they have this kind of moment in time. And the first thing we need to see them do tonight is get CD-LAM more involved in the offense. Yeah, and right now they waste CD-LAM. Right now, they put CD-LAM out by himself in this here. We're not going to throw them to football. It's a lot like going into the San Francisco game of last season. Bottom of the screen. Safety. J-Mack was this from the top. Rotate. It's really worked the one-on-one. Now, watch his body language, because Jack does not throw the ball there. Watch his body language after this. Like, man, I'm open. Give me the ball. Now, left hash. Farthest away from the football is your $140 million receiver. They're just going to put them out there by himself and run a straight line. They don't throw in the football. But that should only happen maybe once in the game. Note, we're going to do it again. Fault on the left hash. We'll take our... And he's standing still. He's farthest away from the football, just running a straight line. Note, we'll throw somewhere else. The consistency that this happens where they just put CD-LAM out by himself and don't get him the football is ridiculous. Last year, he was top five in the NFL when it came to targets. I'm just going to go and vote. He's 41st this year. Half of his routes are straight lines. Think about the contrast of that between Justin Jefferson or Rishi Rice or Nico Collins. They're not even in the same galaxy. But so you told us this earlier this morning, and I'm an hour later, and I still don't understand that. You're asking why? Yes, he was the most targeted player in the NFL last year. You just pointed out he's now 41st. He's overwhelmingly the most important part of their offense. They can't run the ball to save their lives. He is the... You would think, and Randy Mossaway, he worked with on Sundays now, always tells me, "When you're the star receiver, it doesn't matter what the coverage is. It doesn't matter what the defense is. Give me the ball. I can make the plays." Randy's a little different. Oh, well, I understand that. But CD-LAM is right there, Randy, with the best place in the whole league. All right, so I'll ask him, if you watch that tape of the Cowboys, and you're a second year again, you see him all the way out there, and the hash matters, because he's furthest away from the ball, and he's just standing there. What does that do to you? Your mindset of how you think about it. To your point, the ball's all the way over there. He's plus two, which means he's two yards outside the number. That is the furthest throw for the quarterback to me. I look at this, and when you talk about star receivers and getting in the ball, you talk about a guy like Calvin Johnson, who you play with. We knew we were going to double team in the entire game, but you also knew that they were going to move him around and put him in the slot. It is so much harder to get to receivers when they're all over the place. You mentioned Justin Jefferson. I guess he's in Texas. He's in the slot. He's on the left side. He's on the right side. Is this off this, are you schematically when you look at it? Are you sitting there going, maybe? No, because to your point, wherever you line CD-LAM up, there's nobody that scares you outside of that. So when you put him all the way outside the numbers, now we can put a player out there, and if we won't, we can maybe put a safety, but we don't need to, because he is so far from the play, and we don't have the fear of a Toba or a Brandon coach. And they're not changing the picture either. They're just putting him out there. There's no motion. There's no, like, hey, if he goes out there, he can end up here, or they might bring, they're just leaving him out there. So what our guys are literally saying is that the Cowboys are doing this to themselves? Yes. It is not about, it's not even about what defenses are doing to them. Before they even line up, before they even get set, it's they're already at a disadvantage. And when you look at the Giants, who we know it was going to be the Malik Neighbor Show this season, even though he's a rookie, and then you kind of, that's what the Cowboys are doing, where they aren't featuring their top target. That is alarming. Another thing I'd love to do, so that's a lot, candidly, it's stunning. The other thing I love doing on these Thursdays, particularly when we have really good games coming up on Thursday night, is give people something to watch for. So Dan, you have another tape, and in this, you're going to give people where exactly do you expect the Giants defense? What exact point on the field do you expect them to be attacking the Cowboys offense? Dexter Lawrence, over the Cowboys rookie center, Cooper Beebe. The Giants, the Cowboys rookie center, right side. Rookie center, Cooper Beebe. So what they're going to do is they're going to take that big defensive tackle, they're going to run him through Cooper Beebe, and just imagine like a Brian Burns or a K-bond Thibodeau wrapping around. This is a tall task for a rookie center, and what teams are starting to do is realize we can get after him a little bit. Dexter Lawrence is going to stand up, or put right over his head, he's going to run through one of his shoulders, and then you're going to get these loop stunts by the Giants defensive line. I think this could be a vintage Giants defensive line performance. Dexter Lawrence is arguably the best defensive tackle in football, maybe him and Chris Jones in that conversation. This game, when the Cowboys are on offense, will come down to, can they get CD Lambda ball early, and then how they handle Dexter Lawrence on the interior, with the rookie at center. I love that too. And the right tackle, Terry Steele, is giving up the most pressures of any line in the NFL right now. So you mentioned K-bond Thibodeau and Brian Burns, they're going to be on the outside too, trying to have it. Holy smokes. So again, I love giving you something to watch for, but I mean, this sounds really bad. I'm just sitting here listening to you guys talk. We can see how bad it is, but as you guys start having the week to dissect the film, it feels to me like it gets worse and worse. Yeah. And part of this reason is I don't think there's an offense in football that sets their quarterback up to fail more than the Cowboys do with Dak Prescott. The fundamental ways to get your quarterback to play better are make it easier to play better. You run the football, the Cowboys can't. You use play action, the Cowboys don't. You use motion, the Cowboys don't. You throw screens, the Cowboys don't. Another bottom three or four in a couple of them, bottom 10 essentially in all of them. In many ways, they're saying Dak Prescott, we want this to be as hard as possible on you. Greedy, it reminds me a little bit. I don't know if you remember. When Brady went down to Tampa, initially, the way that I categorized it was they're so reliant on high-end execution. It's the same with the Cowboys offense. And it's so easy from when the big, this guy sucks, no, they're making it hard to execute consistently, especially at a time. And we did a whole round table on this yesterday, Kmart, where the story on in the league is elite creative offensive coaching, right? You see how guys, and you talk about, you have been way in front of this conversation, but now even people like me can recognize how these offenses, they're scheming people open. Look what they're doing for quarterbacks who've never looked like this. Look what they're doing for Sam Darnell in Minnesota. Look what they did with Malik Willis this past week in Green Bay. Look at Justin Fields, the scheme, the offensive coaching has never been more apparently important than it is right now. We deservedly so, Matt Lefour. He deserves his flowers because what we're seeing him do in Green Bay. And when we look in Dallas, Dan said something earlier about the Cowboys are making it harder on deck. We talked about this a lot this offseason where it's, they brought Mike McCarthy back. Okay, was that the right move? So when you got two rookie offensive linemen now, you waited to pay them all that, the lack of free agency spending, like all of these things have a trickle down effect. And now we're in week four talking about how this matchup against a Giants team where we were wondering, hey, is this GM, this head coach, are they the right fit for this team? And now we're looking at Dallas like this, not to say that anybody can't lose any given day, but this should be a game where yes, we can all check off the Cowboys are just a better team on paper and a better team on the field, this should be a win. And instead, we are looking at Dallas team that doesn't seem to be making progress and guys in the locker room, that to me is the biggest thing where it's the same complaints and you've got CD and credit to CD for apologizing for his behavior on the sideline. But the frustration should not be there this early in the season. And to your point, you looked at it in the beginning of the season, you're like, all right, this is one that the Cowboys can win, but get the Giants credit as well. They go out there and got beat down by Minnesota and since then, Daniel Jones has played better, their defense has stepped up. So you got to look at this team and the reason we're not looking at it as an easy W is because the Giants have played some good football, motor singletary out of the backfield in the last game. I get Brian Dable a ton of credit because when he got ready to play the Browns last week, knowing how aggressive they were, he did things for Daniel Jones being able to throw screens and they get the ball to make it easier today. Not like if you don't have overly creative offense, you don't have a chance in the NFL. Why would Mike McRough, like when he took over play call and was like, I'm going to run the football, but now they're not running the football either, maybe he's going to give it to. They can't. I mean, we watch, look at Isaiah Pacheco, he was a seven round draft and he comes in running back's arm. But they did. They did. They signed up. But they get it. All off season, all training camp, how good he looked and went down, got there. That was the one thing he said, Rico Dow, like this guy has surprised me how good, give him opportunities, hand a ball, make it easier on a rookie offensive lineman. Mike McCarthy is taking the pieces of their offense and saying, and putting the onus on them, we just go, just go execute. You know how when you can say that when you got Aaron Rodgers and you got James Jones and you got Donald Driver and you got Greg Jennings. You got all those cats? Yeah. You can go do it. The Cowboys don't. Yeah. That's what Mike McCarthy had in Green Bay once a lot of time. He had a lot more talent in Dallas not that long ago. Look, everyone is to blame for what has unquestionably been a regression of this team. And again, I think it reaches, it's about to say a zenith, whatever the opposite is. It reaches a low point if they, yeah, CD lamb is 41st in the NFL. How many teams are there? No, Sam. Is everyone's first fantasy pick because all they do is throw him the ball, not anymore. Coming up, speaking of guys, they always threw the ball to Travis Kelsey. He's been something of a blank space on the field this year. Can he shake it off? Oh, they're back. They're back. The Chiefs getting too much trouble. I knew you were trouble when you walked the air. Plus, we fire up the hot take time machine. Jaden Daniels is the topic. We'll talk about him. We'll talk about Caleb, about the bears failing their young quarterback. The answers are on the way. Kids cannot find PSB. Want all-star parasite protection for your dog? Draft a true five-tool player. Next guard plus a fox-a-loner moxie decked in and pyrantol chewable tablets. Next guard plus chews provide one-and-done monthly protection against fleas, ticks, heart worm, disease, roundworms, and hookworms. Plus, they're delicious and easy to give. Choose with caution in dogs with a history of seizures or neurologic disorders. Dogs should be tested for existing heartworm infection prior to starting a preventive. Ask your vet for full prescribing information. Add next guard plus chews to your protection liner. Passion, drive, and patience. 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He's playing against the best defense in football right now in the Minnesota Vikings. And while Malik Willis has looked amazing in this offensive run game, Matt LaFloor has been as spectacular as you could ever imagine. This is the Minnesota Vikings. And this is Brian Flores. And to think that the Packers with a backup quarterback that's been there for three weeks is just going to go to Minnesota and beat them, that's disrespectful to a defense that's playing as good as anybody involved. And a coordinator who's coordinating as well as anybody involved. Jay Mac, what do you think? Oh, I love it. I love the floor, what he's been able to do with Malik Willis has been unbelievable. And I think that they can go out there and compete. But, guys, I'm a big fan of B-Flow. I played in that defense. Seeing what he was able to do to CJ Stroud was unbelievable, Stroud was back there taking off versus three man rushes because he didn't know who the hell was coming at any given point in the game. And talking to play, that was the game I covered. And talking to players like Jonathan Bernard and Stefan Gilmore about Brian Flores, they said, with the young quarterbacks, Flo can take advantage because they haven't seen everything. You put Malik Willis against that just because he doesn't have the same level of experience, I would say clear advantage, Brian. What they did to Stroud was eye-opening game. He made CJ Stroud look like Sam Darnell with the Jets. You remember the on the end goal? I was out there. I was curious. We were the two-plus. We were the guys. We were the guys. Yes. All right now is the boogeyman in the NFL. You know he's coming, but you can't do anything about it. I'm now no longer talking to you for the remainder of the morning. I can't believe he does that. He's sitting down now. All the Jets fans in the studio just shut up. Actually, I'm all for that. All right, you actually get the next question because I don't get to make that decision. Someone said Jared Goff already has four picks with the 26th ranked QBR in the NFL. If someone said he's actually the Achilles heel of the Detroit Lions team, is that fact or fiction? That is fact and I know all the Lions fans love Jared Goff. And they should. And he's been unbelievable. The truth of the matter is when pressure gets to Jared Goff it completely changes his game and that's been throughout his entire career. So yes, and there's moments where Jared Goff is everything for this team and he's leading them down and he's getting touched out, but there are moments where he is their Achilles. You're yelling at him now. He just made me mad. I mean he made me mad. What a jerk. First Sam Darnell, you literally do it to him and now Jared. Why? He hasn't had the year to begin with that we were expecting. Why? Really? I don't disagree with them. The red zone's been bad, pass game wise. Not run game wise. He's gotten down in the red zone. He's made some odd decisions. The timing of their offense has been bad. He's just missed some throws uncharacteristically. I think that some of the injuries to the offensive line give me concern. They're two and one. I'm not overreacting to this, but I do agree if there's one person who has not played up to the expectation in Detroit, it's Jared. All right. Nick Kmart, here's a wild one for you. Ready? Like you said, Jaden Daniels and the commanders are going to win the NFC East in that fact or fiction. Okay. Will they? Fiction. Can they? Fat. See how I just did that? Listen, I'm high on Jaden Daniels. Love the kid. Be clear. In my mind, he could be offensive rookie of the year this year. But the reason we're even asking this question is because the Cowboys and the Eagles look lost at times and that is open the door for the commanders. He is still a rookie. Also, if the Dallas Cowboys and the Eagles figure out how to be the teams that we expect them to be, that the whole division looks different. But yes, he is capable, Jaden is capable of winning the division. He's that talented. That's a very big if, obviously, with those two teams. We'll see. In the meantime, speaking of Jaden Daniels, I want everyone to take a little trip in the hot take time machine. We're going to go back through the midst of time to March 28th, Dan Orlowski. I would take Jaden Daniels. It's been that way since the moment I started to study this year's draft class. And the moments when you watched him be the best player in the field in multiple games, I think if we're honest about who the best quarterbacks are on a consistent basis, you're in and you're out in the NFL, and where these guys are, Caleb's unbelievably talented. Jaden's the best guy in the draft for me. So that's six months ago. What was that? It was an online. Let the record show. He was not taking that victory lap. We took it for him. So we're three games in. We understand, I mean, before everyone starts screaming and yelling. But the reality is, you watch Jaden Daniels play and you look at the command no pun intended that he seems to have over his offense. And then you look at the struggles that Caleb Williams is having in Chicago. What are the right things for us to say about this? Just everyone chill the fudge out about Caleb. That scared me. Just chill out. Yeah. Two. Take a deep breath. Jaden's been very impressive, totally. It doesn't mean three games in that Caleb's a bust. Number one, I don't love the past game in Chicago. I think a lot of the past game concepts are a little bit college tricky, okay? So there's a lack of consistency in that. Number two, he's got to learn and Jaden, you notice, you only get one hitch to the same guy. All of his interceptions are hit, hit, in this league, those are picks. They got to throw the ball to Romo Dunes anymore, okay? Like, just throw him the football and maybe an opportunity type of situations rather than waiting for him to get open. This was always going to be a work in progress. That's why everyone was saying, is he going to be the cable or the CJ Stroud? No, he's got so much to grow when it comes to building a foundation to play at the NFL level. Jaden has that. That's the big difference. He started over 50 games in college. And he ran an offense that demanded it in college. I'm going to ask you a tough question. Do you have confidence in the people who are currently in place in Chicago, meaning the head coach Matt Eberfloos and the offensive coordinator Shane Waldron, to do that work, to put that foundation in place that everyone knew coming into this draft, Caleb Williams needed? I have confidence in them, yes. The one thing that needs to change offensively is they have to find a way to not hold on to the football, both in scheme and Caleb, as much as they are. That has to change. I agree with you. Caleb Williams threw the ball over 50 times in the game this past week. They lost 16 to 21. You're in a close game. Run the football. And I know they can't run the football. I don't care. Continue to handle the ball off. And eventually, sometimes a damn will break and you'll get a big run. But you have to take some of the pressure off of Caleb. Don't throw the ball 50 times until you're playing. He's driving crazy. He has to be good on so many plays. This is what drives me nuts. When you draft the quarterback number one, your only priority should be developing him. But when you have a coach who has a lame duck, his priority is trying to win games so he doesn't get fired. That's what happened in Mitch Trabisky. That's what happened to Justin Fields. And that's what's happening to Caleb Williams. Everything they do should be put in place to develop him. That's more important than how many games they win this year. But you can't tell that to the coach who's coaching for his job. That's why this is done backwards again. And it drives me nuts. No, here's it. So Robert Salah actually was talking about this yesterday in his press conference because the Jets are playing the Broncos. He talks about Zach Wilson. And Robert Salah said, "I wish there would be more patience." It's interesting coming from him. "I wish there would be more patience for these young players." Because yes, when you come in and it looks great like CJ or Jaden, that's wonderful. That every guy is the same. And somebody asked the question about contracts and rookie contracts and how that makes it easier. You want to get that clock going. And Robert said, "Yeah, I get that. Me personally, we should be trying to trend towards having more patience." Everybody in Chicago, if you're frustrated with Matt, Ibra, Flus, whatever, what's the solution? You want to fire him? And then do exactly what you did to Justin Fields and set him up. There needs to be patience at some level. And I don't think the NFL is trending in that direction at all. Final word, Dan, go ahead. The hardest part for a rookie quarterback that has to play right away. You have to develop good habits and get rid of bad habits while also doing everything you can to win. And more often than not, when an athlete has to be in the position to do everything they have to win, they revert back to. Bad habits. Habits. And if you don't get rid of those bad habits, you never get rid of those bad habits. Right. And that falls on the quarterback. Correct. You're not going to be patient when your quarterback is 40. You have to be patient. I mean, to Robert Salas Point. You have to be patient. But there's a way, but there's a way, there is a way to do that. To Jason's point, I don't care if you can't run the football. Run the football. Right. Look, they've got a lot of problems there. Speaking of Aaron Rodgers and we were, he revealed yesterday, "What will be the Jets' biggest struggle this season? Here's a hint. It's not what you think. Here's another hint. I loved it when I heard it. They're going to hear it next." Bottom of the hour, back on Get Up, it is no secret. The Travis Kelsey has struggled getting off to his start this season. He talked about his early season play yesterday with his brother on his New Heights Podcast. Say go listen. Whatever it is. It's football, baby. Come on now. I'm not getting caught up in getting the targets and all that. I just want to have a successful offense. I have the most fun when I get the ball thrown my way. I mean, who does? As long as we're winning football games, we good to go, baby. Okay, so first of all, I love his ability to add baby to the end of any second. But secondly, there's been a lot of conversation. Our old friend Todd McShae suggested that he doesn't look like he's in shape and suggested that maybe it's because he spent the entire off season running around the world and all that stuff. God bless him. I would bring up the fact that he's going to be 35 years old in two weeks. He is six months older or younger, excuse me, than Rob Gronkowski, who has already retired twice. So it is possible that age is catching up. It's possible that other things. What are you seeing? One, he's getting open, two, there are moments when Patrick looks at him and just doesn't throw him the ball. There's a hesitation from Patrick to maybe not throw him the ball in certain situations. I don't know the reason why Patrick's not playing incredibly clean. I think it's a little bit attached to the left tackle. So I'm not trying to tell everybody that he's Travis Kelsey of six years ago, but it's not this unbelievable drop off that people are starting to paint the picture as Patrick's got to play cleaner. Do you have a tape on that? Yes, I do. I want to show Kelsey. And that was 2020 and at that point, he wasn't moving really fast. He gets you with his tempo and his route and we're going to see right here to Dan's point, Mahomes is already throwing a ball. You can say he's slow, whatever. Kelsey's wide open in the middle of the field and those are the moments in zone coverage we see him. This is him uncovering down by the red zone. This is why he was so hard to cover because you'd have the out route covered and then he turned in and now he's open. Mahomes has already gone to the other side of the field and he doesn't find him. On this one. The route's up. The safety right here. He is wide open. He's already throwing the ball. So to your point, Dan, oh, you just mentioned maybe it's the left tackle. Maybe I'm a home's mind that clock is sped up because he knows he doesn't have as much time in past. I don't know the answer to that, but I'm not ready to say, hey Kelsey, he wasn't joined this summer. You have a superstar girlfriend, you didn't write, go on toward it. But he has shown up and he is played and he is open and he is still the same tight end that he was a year ago. Listen, y'all are not going to work my blood pressure over Travis Kelsey because yes, is he? Oh, sure. That's okay. This man was literally throwing his helmet on the sideline last year and we were discussing the Chiefs are in trouble. Christmas day. Like what's going to happen to this team? Who are you impersonating right there? That was a hodgepodge of all the... Just a lot of the... All of the worry chiefs of all of the talking heads. And they want the Super Bowl. Like I get it, but excuse me, Patrick Mahomes has talked about how we are 3-0 and we have not played well. So they've got the good record, right? They'll figure it out. I can't talk about the Chiefs in any sort of way, but this team will figure it out because they've proven they can do that. Yeah, they're going to work themselves in the shape. The Chiefs know, they know, other teams hope that they're likely playing 19 games this year at worst. That's their expectations. Yeah. Of course, they're not going to look their very best in the first two or three. They'll get themselves that... They'll look at the Buick. They've got to warm up. They'll warm up. They'll warm up. They'll warm up. Let's be honest. If they win it this year, it's going to be because Travis plays like Travis and then he's going to retire. Yes. Okay? You think it would retire? I think after a three. If they win. If they win. I love Patrick. He's the best part on the planet. There are moments on tape when I look at Patrick and he looks to Travis and Travis is open and he doesn't throw it. I can't answer the reason why maybe he doesn't see him, maybe he feels that pressure from that left tackle. They'll be fine. They will be fine. Okay. Fair enough. So that's one superstar and conversation. Here's another. He has handled a lot of success. Travis Kelsey has. Aaron Rodgers has handled a lot of success. Yesterday, he was talking about how that can sometimes be difficult. Listen to this. Nick McCrady said our biggest struggle is going to be handling success back in 2006 in Green Bay. There's a lot to that. I think it's easier when you kind of get kicked in the teeth to kind of come together. It's us against the world. It's us against the big bad media who's saying how bad we are. We can kind of come together. But can you still come together and have the same approach when everybody's kind of starting to sing your praises a little bit? I think that's the mark of a great team. So I can only describe this as one of the great moments of my life that Aaron Rodgers thinks the biggest concern we have as a Jets fandom and as a Jets team is the ability to handle success. That's what you want. It's been a very long time. That is what that's the attention to today we're looking for. Yeah. That's what you guys need. Are you going to be able to handle success? He cannot. No, no, no. No. So he's not taking that out of life. No. No. Aaron needs to come here and look greeny in the eye and say just relax. I act like you've been here. Yeah. So the problem is Aaron has been here, Aaron has been here, the rest of you guys have not. Right. And that is what I love about Aaron Rodgers. There's been so much talk about the Jets culture. But when Aaron Rodgers is speaking to the media and putting things in proper perspective, that permeates that entire locker room with guys like Breeze Hall I'm talking to and Garrett Wilson and Sauce are like you have to raise your standard, but watching him, that is what makes everything better. You are so right. I know. Can I just, this just crystallized in my mind is what I'm talking. William. No, no. Listen, here's what I've said this forever and I'm curious to hear if you guys agree. Yeah. Great coaches speak to their locker rooms through the media. That's what they're doing up there. Bad coaches get up there and say whatever it is they really think. Good coaches talk to their teams. The reality is the person with the most credibility in that entire organization within the locker room is Aaron Rodgers. And what he is saying, this is what I think he's doing, he's getting up there and sending that message to the guys on the team. Hey guys, now I don't know that I see us working as hard as we were working after we got blown out by San Francisco. We just had a week off. Yeah. The world is telling us how great we are. This is not the time to relax. This is the time to double down. That's what Aaron is doing. He's doing what a coach usually does. He's sending a message to his locker room through the media. I was on 16. He played with Gradient Bellages, so I want to offer my services to Rodgers and the Jets. We need a guest speaker. I'll come in. Go. I went from 0 and 16 with the Cleveland Browns to winning a Super Bowl the next year and everybody telling me how great I am. So to that point, he is absolutely right. When you're not used to winning and now next thing you know, they just had a whole weekend where guys are getting marketing opportunities to come into the city, they're hosting nightclub. All of these different things have now just popped on the radar for all of them. Rodgers is saying ignore the noise. Bill used to say to us, put all the nonsense in the drawer for the season, open it up after we win the Super Bowl and that's what it's about for this football team. Focus on the present. Be where your feet are. That's very hard when you're a young player. I think Aaron's doing two things. One, process over results and trying to engrain that and drill that into that organization to that team. Two, they know how good they are. They know how good they are and they know that that team that we saw beat the Patriots on Thursday night can be any team in the AFC. What a sad statistic that is on the screen. It's been almost a decade since they've had a winning record through three games. We know they haven't made the playoffs. I was on the beat then. Yeah. It's been a long time. Let's go. I mean, Aaron, I am following. I will handle success. I will handle success. I did. The greenies still. Dan, let's go back to college. Are you ready for that? You enjoyed college. Very long enough to get out of there. Let's put a few teams on Upset Alert. Notre Dame is a six and a half point favorite against Louisville this week and what is a must win for the Irish. Are you putting them on Upset Alert at home? No, I'm not. Louisville is really good, really talented. I think it's going to be paramount for Notre Dame to tackle in space. A lot of athletic players for Louisville's offense. This is a defense in Notre Dame that's really good. And then Riley Leonard to Bo Collins has got to be in the past game the way that they avoid that upset. Let's go to Penn State. They're a 19 point favorite at home against Illinois. Greenie, this ain't your son Penn State. They can throw it. Now Luke Altmeyer for Illinois has been fantastic this year and a great college story. Drew Aller is throwing the football at Penn State. They still got two backs that are awesome. 70% completion percentage, eight touchdowns, one pick. I'm not putting Penn State on Upset Alert. Yeah. If you'll listen to the first draft podcast later today, Mel Kuiper calls Drew Aller one of the great risers in this year's class so far. All right. Then the biggest game of the year so far by far, Georgia, a two point favorite in Tuscaloosa are the Bulldogs on Upset Alert. I mean, it's yes, but this is number two and number four. Hard to call it an Upset is what you said. Yeah. Number two and number four against each other. It's going to be a fantastic football game, America. Get used to hearing the name Ryan Williams if you haven't yet. First of all, there's two freshman receivers in college football that have a chance to be all time college grades, ones at Alabama, ones at Ohio State. This young man should be in high school right now, he's 17 years old. The matchup between him and Malachi Starks for Georgia is going to be as good as we get in the NFL. Malachi Starks who plays corner for Georgia, probably a top 10 pick in the NFL draft. Ryan Williams, again, is a superstar at the wide receiver position watching those two go at each other. This game is going to be awesome. And then watching Jalen Milro versus a really good Georgia defense, Jalen Milro has the chance in one game to firmly plant himself into the first round conversation of next year's NFL draft, the growth that he has shown, the handling of their offense, the way he's performed in the red zone, you're watching one of those annual quarterback climbs. If he has a great game against the Georgia defense that does not give up explosive, let me put it this way. Georgia, if you play man coverage, night night, this Alabama can score 40. So you're not the only person who thinks that. The Georgia quarterback, Carson Beck, many people think is going to be the first pick in this coming draft. But on this week's edition of the first draft podcast, field gates had the same kind of idea that you did. Here's Phil talking about what Milro could do this weekend. He did it against Wisconsin recently, but doing it against Georgia would completely reshape the narrative and maybe open the door for Jalen Milro to have not quite to the degree that Joe Burrow and Jaden Daniels rose up the ranks, but a relatively similar rise up the ranks during what could very well be his final college season. So a great mind to think I like there. Well, he was the one who planted that thought into my head field a couple months ago. As you've watched Jalen and Jalen to bore his offense, the mechanics have totally settled the way he uses, and we know he's a dynamic athlete. The young man, when you've been with him, he's almost like being around Cam Newton. You're like, my goodness, you're impressive, but the mechanics in his lower half and how balanced he's been and throwing the ball in the red zone in those, some of those tight windows, that's where you've seen the greatest growth. He's going against the defense in Georgia that doesn't give up explosive plays. I think the only defense in college football that's given up less explosive plays is Ohio State. If he can create some explosive plays in both elements that run in the past, the conversation will start. First round quarterback. Absolutely. And to spend 10 minutes with Jalen Miller always to root for him forever, also, if you ever have a chance to be around him. So we'll see. It can be a fascinating game. We'll have much more on that as we continue speaking of fascinating games. The Thursday night game tonight is suddenly huge for the Cowboys. Will Dak dominate? Or does Dallas have a giant problem? We'll make our predictions after we see if you two guys can handle himbo today. Here we go, Danny. Who was the first rookie in NFL history? Malik neighbors going to be on the field tonight. Who was the first rookie in NFL history to have 100 catches in an NFL season? My mind immediately goes to someone. Take a minute. The answer is next. Say good. Oh, the guesses are flying around the studio. I will give one hint. There have been three rookies in NFL history who had 100 catch seasons, maybe Malik neighbors will be the next. Who was the first to do it? My mind immediately went to Terry Glenn, that's not my guess, and I was like TJ Hauschmer-Zilly. Not how you say his name, but okay. Pushman's hot. Hauschmer-Zilly. Close enough. Yes, I thought it's as Bryant, maybe. We mentioned O'Dell. Oh, VJ. It was unbelievable. Puka. Yeah, but Puka wouldn't have been the first. Puka broke so many other people's records. It wouldn't have been the first. That's why I was telling you it's happened three times. So if he did it last year, it's unlikely to have some fans. Well, he was a rookie last year, right? I think it's O'Dell. I feel like he was breaking a lot of his records. I'm going to say Des Bryant. Let me say O'Dell. We never even heard this name mentioned. It's Anquan Bolden. Oh! Oh! He had 100 catches in the first game. He had like, literally his first game every year before he had like 20 catch. The three players to do it were Anquan Bolden in 2003, Jalen Waddle in 2021, Waddle did it. And Puka Nakua last year. Oh, sad. I was there in 2021. I would say well played, but I wouldn't mean it. Here we go. Week four. Let's do some questions. So what if, questions, Orlovski, what if the Ravens lose to the Bills and fall to one in three on the season? That they will be one in three. Okay, then? I just, I don't believe this would be a panic moment in Baltimore. Obviously, there would be things that need to get cleaned up, but they're playing against the team that arguably is the best in football right now, an offense that is an absolute wagon in Buffalo. And the guy who's the lead candidate for the MVP and Josh Allen, it's a big game, but I don't think it's a must win. Okay. Let's talk about another one in two teams. J-Mack, what if the 49ers lose to New England? I know everybody wants to hear me talk about what the 49ers would be like in their situation. But man, shout out to Gerard Mayo if that happens. This is a coach that took over that. A lot of people believe was going to be the worst team in the NFL. If they're able to take down the San Francisco 49ers, you have to give a ton of credit to him of getting his team ready to play each and every week. But they beat Cincinnati. They did Seattle. Over time, they have a long week here to prepare for this. You know, the little mini Bicon situation interesting game. Finally, Kmart, what if the one in two Cowboys lose tonight at MetLife against the Giants? Is this a real question? Yeah. Listen, right now, those guys want to be calm, steady, no. Sound the alarm. Because if they lose and they're one in three, it's not just the record. It is how they look against this opponent panic at the disco. Absolutely. That's what will happen in Dallas. I think a lot of time at the disco. Well, there are a variety of reasons for this. One of them is, look at their upcoming schedule. All right. The best thing the Cowboys may have going for them is the division may not run away from them. But you find me a bunch of wins they have coming up here. So I think they are in significant danger. They lose tonight. They're in significant danger of being something like two and five over the course of this season, which is the whole you almost never can dig yourself out of. But here's the question I want to get to. All the talking this team does, all the talking the owner does, all the talking the star pass rusher does and everything else. When you're winning, and they've been winning the last few years, that kind of gets swept under the rug to some degree, all that talking if they lose tonight and they've got a week and a half to sleep on a one and three record and lose to a Giants team that they have dominated in recent years, what do you think happens internally? Oh, there's going to be very difficult conversations about changes that have to be made. There is the reality that if they lose tonight, you're staring at a losing streak that they haven't had in decades. Yeah. I mean, they can realistically lose six in a row. Now I'll go back to at the end of last season, and I said blow the whole thing up because it's not going to get better. And I was very clear, they're content on mediocrity in Dallas at the top. They're discontent on it. They are not really trying to win football games when it comes to how they're setting their football team up. If they lose tonight and Malik neighbors looks unbelievable in CD, they're not getting him to football, some of those conversations internally are going to get very intense. I will just push back on one thing you said. I don't think they're content on mediocrity. I think they are content on being competitive and just missing, like doing just enough to be in the conversation, but not doing enough to really go all in and say by any means necessary, we're winning us a role because if they lose tonight, now we're talking about mediocrity. That's a different conversation where you talk about internal conversations about looking at your head coach, looking at your play callers, looking at this defense, Mike Zimmer, who you brought in, this is not at all what we were expecting, but then, it part of me almost, I do not want the Dallas Cowboys to lose, that's not what I'm saying, but I think Jerry Jones has to understand that this roster, the way it's constructed, the way they've been doing things, is not enough if the goal is really to win a Super Bowl. He's been delusional to this point thinking we have all the pieces, we've done it the right way. No, you haven't. That's my favorite people, but we have very different definitions of mediocrity. If they lose tonight, they are not mediocre. If they lose tonight, they are on their way to being a bad team in the midst of a bad season, and the kind of thing that makes you blow everything up because you don't have any choice because your fans are going to lose their minds. And they haven't had that because they have been relevant, they have won games and that's where you're saying the mediocre part because when the playoffs fall, come, that's when they start to fall, but you look at this team and what I don't understand is, to your point, and the offseason blow it up, they decided not to. You bring everybody back, but then all throughout the offseason, they decided not to pay anybody, and then as the season approaches, you give them the contracts because I felt like at the end of the offseason, we felt like, all right, I get what Jerry Jones is saying. This team keeps failing at the same point. I'm not extending anyone. Mike McCarthur, you go coach for your job, Dak, you go play for your job, same with CD and Micah, and then he gave those guys contracts. So now when the same thing is happening, that what you have said multiple times with less talent on the roster, you're not going to win the same amount of games when you want everything back and just take from the locker room. Jerry Jones is falling into the trap, thinking the quarterback can save everything. That's the problem, which a lot of teams in this league do, and if we're being real, they haven't done that over the past four or five years. They've had good rosters, but their thinking and the way that they built this football team is, well, as long as we have the quarterback who's a good player, he'll make up for every deal. You get out with the amount of money that you paid these guys, they have to become erasers within your locker room to make up for some of the decisions. But you see other teams, like in Philly, they gave Jalen the money, but they also, how Roseman is surrounding him with top tier talent. Good point. None of the moves, that's why, as quickly as they could, rather than waiting until everyone else got paid, so they have to pay back so much more. Talk me through your strategy, Jerry. That's it, because if you say we're going to have everybody play, play it out, play out the string, cool, I'm with it. Would this be the worst loss regular season-wise in the last five years, and it's a different opponent? And this is how they've done it. I guess the team, they have completely done it. I have no faith in the Giants, yeah, I did all that talk, and it all scores me. AI-generated fantasy insights are built with IBM Watson X looking at player projections for tonight's game, particularly the likelihood a player greatly exceeds or fails to meet their weekly projection, meaning boom or bust. That press got in CD Land, both just a 12% percent chance to boom tonight. We're not looking at big nights. More volatility in the projection from Malik Neighbors. Really good chance he booms. Even better chance that he busts. He's the number one scoring wide receiver in ESPN Fantasy through three weeks. First take is coming up next, what's more likely a Dallas blowout or a Giant win? Molly, Steven A, Dan, Kmart, and more with the answers, top of the hour, here on ESPN. Man, Anquan, I'm mad at you. Before we go, Dan, in lieu of a joke, you have an announcement. There's a word around that our own Jason McCordin, his brother, are going into the Rutgers- Hey! Welcome legend. This evening? This evening, so I'll save my speech, but it's probably going to be 30 minutes, so anybody out of 10, just buckle up and go. I love it. Well done. First take starts now. Yeah, well done. First take starts now. (beep)