Matt and James discuss Marvin Harrison Jr.'s quiet debut for the Cardinals.
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The one completion was a five yard touchdown to Michael Wilson. You're saying, wait a second. I thought you said 10 plus air yards. Yeah. That one pass that was a touchdown to Michael Wilson counts as 10 plus air yards because Michael Wilson was near the back of the end zone. That's it. That was it. One of seven for five yards and a touchdown, Kyler looked like he was in the woods when he was trying to throw anything beyond the line of scrimmage. Yeah, not great. And it's important to remember this was a game in like 20 mile an hour wind in Buffalo. So, you know, that definitely could be a reason why the deep ball struggled. And you know, a lot of quarterbacks struggled throwing the ball deep down the field. This, it was kind of a trend here in week one. There weren't a lot of great performances. Also true. I mean, pushing the ball vertically. That's just going to be a part of it these days. But yeah, I mean, one catcher four yards for it is draft slot first round pick fourth overall. Yeah. Cute spirit. One catch. Exactly. It's poetic. It's very poetic. Yeah. Good. Man, that's tough. I mean, he just needs to get more targets. I mean, I just, again, I'm just shocked that he didn't have more targets. Yeah. So I've seen people freaking out about the film. I've seen people freaking out about the max speed under 17 mile an hour max speed according to next gen stats. People are losing their mind about the Marvin Harrison Jr. film. I would say coming back out of the charting data, the one thing I definitely would take away from this is yeah, we're going to, we're going to need some better deployment for Marvin Harrison Jr. here. 92.2% of snaps I charted on the line of scrimmage, only 21.6% in the slot. I knew he would be their X receiver, but I'm not thinking like Rashad Bateman X receiver. I'm thinking X receiver that gets moved around a little bit, okay? Because I think you have a guy, Michael Wilson, who caught the touchdown pass, he didn't do much in production wise in this game either, because he's another downfield receiver. You have another guy who could play X receiver and you can, that can help you move Marv around a little bit. That's got to be something that we do in the future. So was a little disappointed from that part of it, also from a route perspective, nine of the routes he ran in this game were just curl routes, which, and when you think about the defense that you got in this game from Buffalo, it's a lot of cloud coverage shading to Marvin Harrison's side. He saw a ton of double coverage in this game, which is crazy for a rookie in week one, that defense is already like, well, this is the guy we're going to try to lock in on. We're going to try to cloud things to his side, worked pretty well, especially when you're just running a bunch of hook routes, 26.5% of his routes were curl routes in this game. We talked about this with the Steelers offense before under Matt Canada, when it's covered too and you're getting just go routes and curls, you're just curling back into the coverage for the most part, really not a lot of windows there for your quarterback to work with. So don't love that part of it. Yeah, so overall, pretty, pretty didn't love the usage. I mean, I think Marvin was fine. Definitely got stuck up on man press coverage at times in this game. Body settled down well in spots against zone coverage, you know, from a play speed perspective. It's tough when you're running a lot of these curl routes. I think going back to his reception, perception, prospect profile, there's one weakness I pointed out in his game is I didn't love him working on comeback routes. You know, going full speed, stopping on a dime, working back to the quarterback, which is a lot of what he did here in week one. So, you know, I thought it was not definitely not great. Not something like I'm raising the alarm bells freaking out about the usage definitely is going to lead to some volatility and some up and down moments. If Kyler is not going to push the ball down the field, yeah, I think he'll probably eventually push the ball down the field. I just would like to see him run a more diverse route tree. I do think that we're going to see something completely different. First of all, Buffalo week number one, they've got the LA Rams here in week number two and the Rams have just been absolutely gashed by outside wide receivers. This goes back to 2023. You could consistently beat them on the outside in 2023 and that obviously has just continued here in 2024 as we saw Jameson Williams go off for 120 yards or whatever it was, right? So, Marvin Harrison here, I think in week number two against the Rams, I would not be surprised to see him be one of the most productive wide receivers here in number in week number two. I think Arizona and Kyler and Jen and specifically will try to force feed Marvin Harrison after this huge backlash that the offense got here after week number one. I don't know. I just would be, I would be stunned if Marvin Harrison Jr. did not see 10 targets in this game specifically in this matchup against the Rams. Yeah, I mean, the Rams definitely nodded as good of a defense as what we've got in Buffalo. That's for sure. Again, important to remember Buffalo probably one of the best defensive coaches in the league in Sean McDermott. People are freaking out about the Kyler Murray quote where he said, sometimes the ball goes to him. Marvin Harrison, but that's not my job. I leave that up to Drew, you know, Drew Petzing, the offensive coordinator. What Kyler, hold up Kyler, like, you understand that you actually throw the ball though. You're not, you're not a video game character, bro. It's not as if Drew Petzing is in the, it's not as if Petzing is in the, the freaking box with the controller and just being like, all right, we're gonna, let me press B. Let me press X. Let me throw it at like, what are you talking about? You actually control who you throw the ball to. What you talk about? Question. Uh, yeah, I'm, I'm with you, according to fantasy points data, you know, Greg Dorich, I know people love Greg Dorich, but this way too much Dorich in week one. Okay. He had eight targets. Insane. Six of them were first read targets. He had a 28.6% share of the first read targets. Okay. You've got Marvin Harrison over here. You do not need to be thrown to Greg Dorich, six catches for 47 yards, uh, that many times on first read look. So, um, I think maybe Kyler is saying like, Hey, yeah, let's make Marvin Harrison the number one read in the concept, especially when we're playing against the, the bills and, and like we're having them run these curl routes and stuff like that. So let's, yeah, let's, let's get Marvin Harrison into the, into the concept, into the routes that we kind of want him running here routes over the middle of the field, not just breaking back to the quarterback cause, um, I think that's the strength of his game overall. So definitely a disappointing, I mean, no, no way around it. I'm not sitting here again telling you that, Oh man, Marvin Harrison was perfect. He was not. Yeah. It was not a good debut on film for Marvin Harrison, but, um, I won't really be panicking on this until we see it like for four weeks or something like that. And look, then if it's, if we're sitting here on this podcast in four weeks and I'm, and we're still getting the same Marvin Harrison on film. Yeah. 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Matt and James discuss Marvin Harrison Jr.'s quiet debut for the Cardinals.
Whether it's the biggest stars in the league or new rookies bursting on the scene, you won't get better wideout information anywhere else. Along the way, they'll break down the biggest stories in the NFL and offer up a few big-picture fantasy football thoughts.
Follow the guys on Twitter @JamesDKoh and @MattHarmon_BYB. Follow Reception Perception @RecepPerception. Download and Subscribe to the Reception Perception Show anywhere you get your podcasts.
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