Golan-Globus Theater
El Topo (Jodorowsky)
[MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] Here we are, we are bookending you with the spirit of vengeance all the way back there in the high plains drifter land. Here we are in Jodorowsky, Western, West Dodorowsky, I think I would like to call it, West Dodorowsky, it's a mouthful. I feel I've heard that somewhere before. I don't know why you've heard that before, maybe in the future past that is the present. Days of future past. It's a spiral, Murray. It's a spiral. Life is a circle. We travel in a spiral. That's right. I mean, everything is a circle. We travel through the spiral. If you're going to pick up the leaves, you got a spiral. Beautiful. We are working with the spirit of God. I mean, he says it right off the bat in this movie. He is God. So that's a little flavor, but we've got to abbreviate this because this is going to be a long one. We also, you know, some people, Griff, it's hard to believe, some people actually tune in for our intro. Don't you care about the movie? They want to hear what's going on with the G&G boys? How is life what's their point of view on what's going on in the news? I know. We've got commentary on commentary. We pay attention. My therapist once said it to me, most people are boring, but Griff, you're not. And you know what? I pay her to tell me that. Of course, people are like Swifties. I was going to say, I almost said Ginties. No. Wow. You just tried to rhyme them. We're Globies. They're waiting for who are we going to pick? Yeah. Who sided, by the way? Oh, for the election. Yeah. Just like Swifties. You know, I was so close to RFK, then I found out he's a can't, like he's into harming animals. So, that rules up for him. Where do you stop? Where's the neck? Yeah, really. No neck. They're just one thing. Yeah. What? They say what kind? Like, was it a narwhal? How can you fit a whale head? It's got to be a narwhal, one of those smaller ones. It's got to be a small whale. Yeah. That would be cool because they got the unicorn horn. But even a small whale is a large whale. It's a whale of a tail. It's a whale of a tail. But it reminds me, in the news today, I'm sure this guy Trump's never heard of. I don't even remember his name. Robinson. Mark Robinson of North Carolina. Lieutenant Governor of North Carolina. Correct. Hey there, Joe Corey. This is your representative. Please, please do yourself a favor. I mean, I'm sure you're not going to vote for this guy. Who has got such accolades as -- Pouring the vote is what he says. Pouring the vote? Yeah. Who has rocked the vote? Yes, Pouring the vote. So, Trump has been trumpeting him. Trumpeting, yeah. Because that's what he does. He's running for governor right now for North Carolina. And governors weigh a lot. Like, we love our Big Gretch up here in Michigan. We love her, yeah. She was actually one of the -- she was one of the names floated for replacement for Biden. Oh, wow, there. Not even Kamala. Fucking Big Gretch was. Because she's been doing a good job up here. Fixing those damn roads. You're fixing them too much, Greg. Yeah, you need to calm down on the fucking roads. Michigan has two seasons. Construction season and winter. Right. And we don't even have winter that much anymore. And we just have construction season all season now. Yeah. It's just that you -- You saw the lab rat labyrinth. I have to go through to get to Griff's place. It's fucking annoying. Even on my way back from Malibu Mike's house today. I was driving down Newburgh. They made me get off Newburgh. Go around to Michigan left. Everybody look it up. I can't tell you. To get back on to Newburgh because they closed down a bridge. This was '96 where they closed it down for months to repair everything. They forgot to do the bridges. We have all cut overpasses, what I should call it. We have all -- yeah. So Mark Robinson is a self-proclaimed black Nazi. Yep. Black Gestapo. Yep. Maybe we'll do that for black exploitation history month. Black Gestapo. That would be good. And he frequents porn websites. And he's the one with the weird. There's a unique person. He might still do it. Everyone looks at the site. But there's a unique person who comments on porn hubs. Do you remember his name? I do not. It was like a mini soldier or soldier small. It was some kind of play on mini soldier. Yeah. Most people, normal people, you bust your knot, you just click off to something else. This guy's like, "No, I have something to say." Most people, they bust it and then they're like, "What have I done?" You know? It was a shame you feel. And then you're just like... I mean, we're mostly talking. I don't know if you're at work and you're doing this. Well, I don't know how to separate life from work at this point because I'm either at work or I'm working on the show. So it's just like, it's all work. Now it's material for the show, so it is all work. I'm one of the strange guys because I do not look at the pornography. I just read the comments. It's all I care about. Is that what gets you off? I don't know if it gets me off, but... You should see Murray. Here's the thing. You should see Murray play a text-based adventure. Oh, my God. Here's the thing. And I'm gonna give an example. Like, back in the old days, 1700s, you had all these poets. And everyone knew they were. Who are the big poets now, Griff? Yeah, it's the point. My angelou, the last one. The young girl who opened up for buyers. Yeah, who cares about her. But I don't know her name. I just know she was a young black woman. You know what the true poets exist, Griff? On porn comment websites. And I have an example right here. Oh, my God. That... This is why you're like, "Hey, Griff. If we should talk about Mark Robinson." Yeah, 'cause I've been waiting for the right moment to read this, because this... When you... All I wanna say is this. If you're a guy, get a towel ready. If you're a girl, put a sponge between your legs. Because you are gonna be so eroticized by what I'm gonna read to you. Wait, should I play the speed and scale behind this? We haven't busted it up. You probably want to put some sexy, smooth jazz behind. Oh, you just want some... Never mind. No, madingly, get the alto. No, not the tenor. The alto. I did not write this. I wish I could take credit for writing this. This is a real porn website comment. Not by Mark Robinson. Just the comment. As far as I know. Okay. I didn't know. I have to go back and check, 'cause I did not know his name. Yeah, me and user name. User name. Me and his soldier. I'll have to go check that. But I'm gonna read this comment for you. And I want you all to... Do what you want. You want to come? Fine. If not, whatever. But here it is. The most intimate of sexual play. Amal pleasure consumes me. And even though my head says, don't taste her rectum, my heart tells me to go ahead and savor the flavors of an anus. Cedar. Leather. Figs. And notes of Dutch cocoa. That being felt. I've never sampled the taste of another woman's anus. Thank you for sharing this erotic clip. Isn't that poetry graph? It just flows. The ebb and flow. Figs. Dutch cocoa. Whoever knew an as could have hints of Dutch cocoa graph. All I can think about, this guy must be a semolier in his real... He's a ass semolier. Even though he's never tasted the flavor. Yeah. He knows. This is interesting. 'Cause you would think. You would think. Based on the word alone. The title alone. Rumpologist. That would be the kind of language they use. But as we know, that's not how they talk. They're more scientific. They're not as poetic. They're not as erotic. It's very business with a rumpologist. It's very business. It's very rarely about penetrating. It's also, isn't it just about? It's about reading the rump. It's about reading the rump. Yeah. So I want to say to this guy, thank you for sharing this comment. Because I think we're all different people now if they're hearing that. I don't... The kids love ass eating to begin with grip. But there's going to be a lot more because of what I just said. I think so. We need to get to that young audience again because they're basically sexual now. They're too busy eating ass. They're not... No, they're not even eating ass. They're not lowering their shoulders. I think this guy just talking about eating ass. I think so. They don't want to take the plunge, if you will. They're living in the internet world where they just talk about things. They don't fucking do it. They're not bored enough to get out there and mingle with the other sexes. Or they like sexes. Do whatever. Get in some pants. Kids need to get in pants. They do. They do. I do want to say though, because we have a connection to a porno shop and everything. You used to hang out with Larry. Yeah, my buddy, Pornch up Larry. He's Larry to me. He's Pornch up Larry to all you guys. Yeah, exactly. Just like how Midwest emo is, Midwest emo to everybody but us from the Midwest. We just call it emo. Thank you. I call it Casserole emo. What I found interesting because I'm just now learning, I listen to a podcast from North Carolina Boys. And they were talking about Mark Robinson. This guy used to show up at his local porn shop. Yeah. Weekly. Daily. Daily. And he would bring them pizzas. Hang out. Yeah. Visit a jizz booth. Where everybody knows your name. Yeah. Hang out. Visit a jizz booth. Leave a mess. But at the end of the day, it's like thanks for the pizza mark. Yeah. And I can attest to that. That's it. Because people are probably thinking no fucking way. Was this guy every day? Yes. Larry told me there's people that would rent a VHS at the time. Yeah. Every fucking day. And there's people that would be in the booths. Every fucking day. I'm going to say something incendiary right now. Okay. That probably kept them from being like, what are they called, postal. Yeah. You basically become a threat to other people. Maybe. Yeah, I've always believed that. I think we need pornography. We need something. I mean, some people is always some crazy knot. It was going to be triggered by something. But I think for the most part, if you're not getting laid, pornography is a good thing. I don't mean to make it all about pornography. It's just about interacting with people. Oh, yeah. Even just going to the porno shop and interacting with humans, I think is enough of a good life. Well, I'll say this for the people who work at porno shops. They don't want to talk to you. Oh, no, they don't. Buy your shit and get the fuck out. Yeah. People believe, I mean, this is why Larry had to quit. Because people think in an adult, I mean, do they even exist anymore? The way actually the one he worked at still exists. I don't know what they're fucking selling. Yeah. No, I drive down eight mile, man. Yeah. There's strip clubs. Well, I'm talking about, yeah. Strip clubs makes sense. No, no, no. I'm trying to say there is a couple of adult bookstores still there. Adult bookstores, video stores. Yeah. But they think that the laws, not that the laws, but the moral code we all live by in the outside world ceases to exist once you enter that world. And you can say or do whatever you want. Yeah. No. They think it's the sewer system and eight millimeter. Right. Yeah. No, it's not. The people working there don't want to hear about your fantasies. Don't want to help you attain your fantasies. They want you to get your shit. Get the fuck like most businesses. Get your shit and get the fuck out. Very rarely is there people that you connect with where you want to interact with. Like so, yeah. So what we're saying is vote Robinson, this election. Trump has called him MLK on steroids. He's twice as good. MLK had a huge collection of player magazines. Yeah. And one of the fun things about Mark is these pro trans people, even though we want them eradicated from the earth. Isn't that the way it always is? But every, every time they say we need to fight against these people, it's just projection. Every one of them is an admission because this guy, this was one of his comments on the porn, the porn boards or whatever was he said, I love watching a trans man rail a woman because it's got the beauty of a woman with a giant cock, fucking a woman. And I am so into it. Yeah. Because he wants his, he wants his opinion to be heard. That's why he's running for governor. He's like, you people, I have a lot of important things to say about pizza. The pizza you bring to a porn shop. What pizza, what Murray, very important question? Yeah. What pizza are you bringing to a porn shop? Well, there's got to be a lot of sausage on your pizza. Okay. Is there a hole in the hole? I would never eat anything that was in a porn off. I don't care who's just brought in. I'm like, he's been tainted. He was in the innards of the fucking room. Poop particles, if you will. Well, some kind of particles are floating. Well, I mean like when the bathroom, yeah. Yeah. You don't leave an open truth brush out. Porn particles. Porn particles. I would not know. I wouldn't trust a guy who's in a porn shop every fucking day to give me anything. It could be drug, it could be roofied. Yeah. You know, no. I'm not consuming any of that shit. I agree with this. I don't know if we have much. But it kind of, is it life-imitating art when you do that? Because the whole, one of the tropes of old school porn was the pizza delivery guy. Pizza delivery guy. Is that what he's trying to do? Lonely house life. He's living out of fantasy, hoping that, and you might not believe this, but there, women do work at porn shops too. There was one, there were women, there was one I remember who worked at Larry's. I didn't know it was a woman at first. It was this total like, butch, Mexican lady who was like five feet tall. She had a mullet with a fucking long ass rat tail. And she, I understand why she was pissed off and loosely looked pissed off 24/7. Is probably because she had to clean up those messes that you were talking about that Mark Robinson leaves. Oh, Mark Robinson blew a fucking man. In fact, I'm going to tell a story about what happened one day. I never, because the, the, the place was cut in half. So one was just where you have the magazines, the VHSes and the sex toys and the counter was there. And then there was the porn booth section. I never went there. It was, it, it even scared me. Yeah. It was, it was straight out of cruising. Except they didn't have ones where you could be together. It was strictly like, there was no seats. You had to stand, you could see, and you could see the people's feet. Watch cruising. Listen to our episode. Great episode. Uh, I guess there was a urinal back there. Yes. You, I remember this. Yeah. So some Japanese businessmen came in. And for what, I don't know, cultural misunderstanding. One of the guys shit in the urinal and the fucking, rightly so, the Mexican woman lost your fucking mind. And I, I think, you know, standing up first. And I'm like, I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be driving their piss into it. Just smelling those shit fumes. A lot of poop particles going on. Yeah. The poop particles are out of this world at that point. Yeah. But talking about the guys that are there every day, sometimes they, they had even porn stores stores. I'm like, you don't want to say theaters, but store. So that was the one day it was closed. Much like Myers. It's just closed on Christmas. Which is good. Yeah. And you would think you would told somebody, or sometimes they would get shut down because the cops would come. Oh. And they would search the place. Right. Because this place was mobbed off. Like the mobs owned this. So they were like always like racketeering and all that kind of shit was going on. Sure. And so they would get closed down. They would get shut down because, you know, because it was a place for gay guys on the download to hook up. They would try to there. It wasn't, it wasn't accepted. Larry had to break up a couple of things happening. Yeah. But they would do that. Like I said, they think the laws don't, don't apply inside the store. Like it's like, it's like it's international waters. It's also one of the safer places they could go to. I'm sorry. I mean, I did not plan on talking about this, this long. I thought I was just going to read my fucking little comment. I thought so too. But you need to learn this piece. Yeah. So it would be closed. Like they would literally like come in and like while Larry was working and like bust shot everything down. Yeah. And then they, Larry, like you guys got a fucking leave. You would think you just told somebody their mother had died. That's how sad it would get. But it's an addiction. It's like anything else. It's an addiction. Well, it's the addiction. It's a human connection too. We've lost those. You know what? There's like a bunch of places that have been torn down. You know what they're being replaced with in my neighborhood? I just did like an old griff route like where I grew up and everything. Yeah. And a bunch of places got torn down. Three different places. And you know what they're being replaced by? All three are the same business. Can you guess what it is? Chick-fil-a. Good gas. No. Car washes. Yeah. They built a new car wash in my neighborhood. They literally built it from the ground up. How? Like when I thought about it, I was like, is that a place you go hang out with people? No. This one doesn't even have people in it. It's automated. Yeah. Totally automated. That's what this one, the three are going to be. Yeah. That's what we're doing. That's what these people are fighting against. Amazing human connection. We fucking, me and Murray are, how have we been doing this show for six years? Me and Murray need a fucking human connection. We love each other. We look each other in our sweet blue eye. You know what? I don't need to get everybody turned on right now. I just did. People are still cleaning up from what? That's right. I just said. I was trying to give them like the post-coides sex talk, you know, talk about all the good flags and all that. Yeah. I mean, we were talking about, maybe that's the next hipster trend, is bring porn shops back. Yeah. Vintage, artisanal porn. Artisanal. I mean, I was talking with a friend of ours who came by a cachet of some old porn mags. And I was like, I hope you're paying it forward. I hope you're going to donate those to the woods near you. Please. I'm more than willing to assist in this because this porn needs to be in bushes. Right. For the kids. Exactly. It's for the children. It's for the children. What's like Wu Tang and Gonglova Theatre is. Kids need to fuck up. They need to get into weird shit and they need to be free or away. Safely opposite. Wear a condom. But they need to be away from the fucking parents. Yeah. Kids need to get out of their house. There's too many distractions in the house anymore. We need to stop. We've got nine and a half pages to cover. We are not going to talk about the movie in the opener people. We're not. No, we're going to get we're going to get into that fucking whole mess during the episode. All right. Well, we'll just we'll just we'll just say this about Jodorowsky. Would love him or not. We say this about all of our misunderstood geniuses. He's got a vision. He's uncompromising and it's totally his and we respect the hell out of that. Whether the product is good or not because I've said it before, what about Neil Breen? No talent. Yeah. But I respect the hell out of a guy who's not he's not sitting around saying I have a great idea for a movie and never acting on it. He does it. He puts his money where his mouth is and puts out a product, horrible product. It's his product. It's his art. It's not content. It is art. Yes. And I love it. Absolutely. It's not pandering. That's where art is people. Art is about putting out what you believe, what you have to say, not worrying. Is this going to attract? Is this going to offend? Is this going to whatever other people I have something to say in my heart and I want to say it to you. Tell your story. Take. Speak your truth. It's supposed to be one of our topics. We saw Castle Rat and we'll talk about that next week. We'll talk about that next week. We have an interesting story about that. Yeah. That was a fun show. And if Castle Rat is coming to a time near you, check them out. If you like fun, check them out. All right. Let's get to this movie people. Let's get ready to take a journey to the center of our minds with this trailer for the first time. [SPEAKING SPANISH] [SPEAKING SPANISH] [SPEAKING SPANISH] [SPEAKING SPANISH] I don't know what the fuck you'd say about this. I don't know what I get to say about it. I was expecting a lot weirder than we got. I agree. We say we're not Jodarowski files. We are now. But before this, we'd both seen just one of his movies. Yeah. You saw "Sengria Sunrise"? No. It's not "Sengria Sunrise". Okay. And I saw "The Holy Mountain" when I was like 19. Okay. And so based on his reputation, I thought it was going to -- I don't know. This is a beauty of art, and we're going to learn because we did not discuss this at all. No. This is our first discussion of the movie is happening right now for that very reason because we were going to give our interpretations of what we think this movie is, what his point is. It's very theological. There's a lot of religious -- is it all just like one? Well, there's a God complex. God complex obviously. Yes. Well, you wanted me to give my theory on what the -- If you've got -- I don't have one. I do. So if you do, please. I think this movie basically breaks down to the dilemma of the fake tough guy. We talk about it a lot on this show. And I think what happens in this movie is El Topo, because there's -- I enjoyed the first half of the movie more than the second half. Okay. Yeah, that makes more sense. And I said, I didn't find it as weird. I thought it was -- I believe I have the ultimate take on it. But, like I said, it's art. It's open to interpretation. But why I say the dilemma of the fake tough guy, I believe in the beginning, El Topo is a fake tough guy. He's swinging his dick around. He's like, "I am a God. I am the greatest because I am the most violent man. I'm a killing machine." Yeah. And as he -- in the middle, he challenges the four gunmasters. Yep. And I believe the gun -- as you'll learn, as he visits each gunmaster, they have reached basically Nirvana, meaning they've become real tough guys, meaning they don't need to swing their dick around. Exactly. They don't need to intimidate people. They know if shit goes down, they can handle themselves. And that's it. Yeah. And I think -- and so when he goes through his journey through the four gunmasters, I believe El Topo realizes that himself. And he reaches that Nirvana, where he becomes a real tough guy and not a fake tough guy. I believe that is a very beautiful way to summarize the first, like, hour and 20 minutes of this movie. It is, of course, a two-hour, five-minute movie. Yeah. Waste no fucking time. There's no long cridays, no nothing here. And the journey, I would say, is fucking cool. I really enjoy this movie. I mean, the problem with the -- I mean, he is a dangerous -- unlike the ultimate fake tough guy we talked about last week, Donald J. Trump, El Topo is a dangerous man in the beginning of the movie. 1,000%. But -- but that's -- this is why sometimes a fake tough guy is scarier than a real tough guy, because when you're a fake tough guy, you're so desperate to prove how tough you are. You do crazy shit. Yeah. You do shit that is going to bite you in the ass in the long run, i.e. wind up in prison. I grew up in the hood. I was surrounded by fake tough guys. We just had a fucking shooting at Eastern Market after a Lionsgate. It was a tailgate party for the Lions over a parking space. Guys got into an argument. Guy left, came back with a gun and murdered a guy. And he's going to spend -- and he's going to spend -- I probably not to spend the rest of his life. He's spent probably 20 years in jail for this. For what? For being a fake tough guy. Fake tough guy. For not being able to just swallow your pride, let it go. Even if you're in the right, even if that was your parking spot. Yeah. Just letting it go. There's no fucking reason. There's no fucking reason for this kind of shit. Some generations make fighting with fist the cuffs and not kicking a guy while he's down cool again. Because if that could have been settled by just two idiots punching each other, great. Because we don't need to fucking murder people. We don't need -- I go to the Eastern Market every other Saturday and I pick up fucking pierogies. It's going to be weird to go there. If I went there and there's just cones set up for someone who just got shot, it'd be fucking weird. What? It happens a lot in Detroit. We're murder city for a reason. Well, not downtown. It's usually in the outskirts. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying is El Topo is that guy. He has to let you know how tough he is. That's the whole thing. Well, we'll get into it. Do we want to just start? No, we absolutely should start because there's a lot to break down. But he at least, while he's being the tough guy, you do get to see. He's kind of like really trying to think about it. He's not full Ginti. Like, I'm a cool tough guy. He is like seeing himself inside and outside. Yeah, well, see, that's the thing. I'm glad you brought up Ginti because even though I wouldn't consider Alejandro Jodorowski, the director, it plays El Topo. If you didn't know that. I'm assuming if you're listening to this, you'd seen El Topo. Yeah, Jodorowski is -- even though he's not intimidating, I bought him as like a dangerous guy. He is so good in both halves of the movie. I was like, he is a fucking tough guy. You sold it so well. Great fucking outfit. Yes. Yeah, I don't even know how to describe the -- we're going to talk about his gloves for half an hour. Yeah. I don't even -- what's the word for it? It's not sleeveless. That's sleeveless. But it kind of is sleeveless. Yeah. It's like the G-string of gloves. It gives you a little hint of skin. But then it's like, oh, no, you don't. Yeah. You don't get some knuckles recovered. Oh. You're like, what's going on? It's so good. Again, this is the -- everything that is bait for us to get distracted. And that's why this movie is so intimidating. That's why we tried to keep it kind of short on the top half. We always do. We never -- we always fail. But we talked about the one topic for nine hours, four booths. We can't talk about four booths. We should start the movie. We'll get into shit. We'll talk a lot of shit. Hopefully we get to all the shit you guys are interested in, because this is a movie that needs to be talked about. We'll need to have conversations about almost all the time. Save it for last. It's the weirdest of all Westerns. It is. And it's not even as weird as we thought it was. Yes. It's not as weird as we thought. But it's still weird. So we opened up. We got Topo, El Topo, of the nature. Which is? And/or-- No, which means? Oh, the mole. The mole. Yes. And they explain this. They actually do have a credit scene where they explain the mole and how the mole spends all of its life underground and it digs for the sun. And then when it finally breaks through, it sees the sun and gets blinded. It's almost like Icarus. There you go. They've got too high to the sun. He digs too high to the sun. There you go. I wonder if that's a-- back to foreshadow. We don't do that enough. I mean, we don't. Yeah. Our fucking Phil comes on and hits us with the back to foreshadow more often than we do. Yeah. So is that what you mean? I see. So we have El Topo and Iho, Iho, Iho, which is Spanish for sun, because this is literally his real-life son, Brontis-- So on the S-O-N or S-U-N? Maybe there's some symbolism there. There is. It's S-O-N. Brontis, Joy D'Roski, he's real-life son. That's right. Won an award for this role. He did? Yeah. Wow, for what? Chinese dick. Oh, he's a Chinese dick on screen. Yeah. 'Cause he is. He's a fucking seven-year-old. Well, he still was kind of in the night. I just feel like, why are you doing that to your son, Joy D'Roski? Yeah. And he did, according-- this is IMDB, take it with the grain of salt, but allegedly years later, after doing this movie, because Joy D'Roski is tough on his son, because he was going to be Paul Atreides in the Dune movie that never got made, and he made his son go through hell with different training in martial arts and bodybuilding and all this shit, and it never got made. So what we'll say right here, it starts out with-- they stop in the desert, and they got a little parasol, and-- They love doing this shot of just desert everywhere, blue sky, maybe a few clouds, and then just that wooden post for him to hitch his horse to. Right. So Iyo is nude. He just wears shoes and hats, interesting choice, and they stop, and they get off the horse, and El Topo has a teddy bear in one hand, and it looks like a mirror, but instead of a glass, it's a photo of Iyo's mother. Yes. And he tells him, "You are seven years old now, you are a man, you cannot trick or treat anymore, bury this toy and this mother, and be the man you are meant to be." That's all right. And then as he's doing that, and he loyal, he said, "He's this loyal son, El Topo plays a flute, a little flickering of a flute for him." And so this makes perfect sense, because we said he doesn't know what being a real tough guy is, so he's being incredibly hard on his son. I mean, this is why you talk about these movies, I don't even think about that. Right. And I think the reason why he's naked is, he's, when you're naked, you're in the ultimate vulnerable position. It's like, I'm toughening you up. Yeah. If you can handle anything naked, you can handle anything, period. Yes. I, I'm so sorry, anecdote already. My uncle loved the guy, he's gone now, but he was a fake tough guy. He was in the military. Do you know what his military experience was? Nothing. Looked at a hanger. He never saw a combat right there. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you for his service, by the way. Yeah. Yeah. But it wasn't until he was like 48, his kids, he fucked up because he like told them he was hard militant guy the whole time. It wasn't until he started having grandkids who, when he realized like, I'm a fucking fake tough guy. Right. I can peel back the layer and just lean into just being a normal fucking human being and not like some, I got to be a masculine person and teach my kids to this and that. I think people need to be masculine, but it's, it's, what is your definition of masculinity? Right. It was, it was basically, I need to teach them how to be a fake tough guy. It's a caricature of what you think of man. Exactly. It was not a real version of masculinity that helps in the real world that helps you navigate life. It was a very fake. And my cousin. It's just going to get you in trouble. And for me, it's like, I don't know, my cousin seemed to be fucked up by that. Oh, getting back to the story about Joe Rossi. So years later, he invites this son to his home and he takes him out back and he says, dig right there and he digs and there's, there's a toy and a picture of his mother in real life. And he's like, Joe Rossi goes to him, you were now eight years old. You can be a child. Yeah. So that's beautiful. I realized I pushed my son too far. He was too young for this role. And now I feel bad about it. I give you your childhood back. Sorry. So throughout the movie, like we go to the point of the movie, we already kind of describe it. We get like this nice credit scene and I don't know what animated kind of thing. It was like animated, but it was just hand sticking underground. Yeah. It was like a mole and shit. Yeah. That's where they do the thing. They describe like Griff pointed out, the mole digging to the sun and being blinded. And now we come back to and Topo is arriving out of town that just been decimated and massacred. So just again, his color, his contrast, this guy gets how to shoot a fucking movie. Yeah. It is eye candy. And yeah. It had the horrible orange 70s fake blood. Yeah. Yeah. But like Joe Cory pointed out, I guess, apparently that was the only blood available at the time. There's only one company. It's supplied blood. For all of all, for all of movie them. So there's one thing I do not like we talked about it last week with a bone towel hog. Yes. Yes. I wouldn't necessarily say it's animal cruelty because we do not see animals being killed in this movie. But there are a lot of like, I mean, he's trying to show the massacre. You can tell these are real life horses like they've been gutted. I don't know. I don't know how he can obtain these animals. Maybe this. Someone said, Hey, I got a dead horse. Do you want you need to have a use for it? I want to believe this. I really do because I really appreciate Joe Rossi's films. This is the one problem though, with an uncompromising vision, you would do things like this. Yes. If I need a dead whatever, make it happen. Well, here's the thing that I read about Joe Drowski and I don't know how real it is because obviously we don't do that extensive research. We try to live normal lives and we work for a living. Yes. So, yeah. We'll get paid to do this show. But he was a hardcore artist edgelord. Right. And so when people were starting to get into like what he thought was his surrealist lane, supposedly him and his art troupe started slaughtering animals on stage to fucking shock the audience because so many people were just gathering and they're like, No, you're making it lame. So to freak all these people out, he would slaughter animals on stage and me and Murray and most of the extensive global global universe are not into this shit at all. So we see unfortunately dead animals and we have to stretch our imagination to believe he didn't just get these animals and fucking murder them. So huge caveat for this movie, if he killed them, let's hope he just did it humanely. Let's hope these were animals set to retire and this is the hard world. Let's hope they all unalive of themselves. Now we can stay on YouTube. So they're in town, there's animals, there's carcasses of people. The whole town has been decimated. They go into a church. Literally a giant pool of blood. It's again, the contrast and everything. It's so fucking cool. And then we go into the church. There's hang men just from the rafters and they kind of do a once over. They walk back out and there we have our first like man pleading. It was just kill me, he's begging for death because he's so fucked up. So Topo pulls out his gun but then he looks to his son who is now a man. Right. Hands the gun to him, ultimate edge lord thing to do and it says free him of his life. And fucking, boom, just does it, no problem. So Topo at least was man enough to be like, I can hug my son. Right. I can hug them. He's becoming the man. He wants him to be. Yeah. And then he-- Did you notice that all the like sacrificial gunshots were like just above the waist? Yeah. They were all in the same spot. Well, why do you think that is gross? I don't. I don't know. Is that Jesus? That's Jesus. That's Jesus wound, the spear wound that Jesus. Okay. Okay. There's a lot. That's the thing. We also got to put into perspective. This movie is 54 years old. A lot of this shit that happens now were kind of like roller eyes. But at the time, it was some fucking-- especially, I read he's Chilean and French, but he is Mexican, right? Like he grew up in Mexico. From everything I've witnessed with him, like he only speaks Spanish. So-- So Mexico, obviously very Catholic country. So what he's doing at the time, 54 years ago, was provocative, was edgelordy, just criticizing the church in general. Yeah. To pretend it wasn't is to completely put aside history. So if you're looking at today's lens, it's kind of like even I was like, it wasn't because they get more into it in the second half of the movie. I was kind of just rolling my eyes, I'm like, this isn't virgin ground we're walking. It's a lot easier to make fun of Christian. You can see how it would piss people off in some sections of America still, but a religion doesn't really have to hold on even the world that it used to have. No. I mean, come on. Politics is the new religion. Yeah, exactly. We're fighting back against Catholic Church and all the shit they've been up to. So back then, there was an establishment and no, you couldn't fight against it. So of course, yeah, this was really fucking impactful. You got to understand perspective. So Topo, he is a badass. So he's like, hey, all these rings are getting wasted on these dead people. So he just- Did he take them off the table? Yes. He was basically taking all the goods off of these people. Okay. Okay. I missed that. Which is weird because I mean, I'm assuming the town got massacred because people wanted to rob these people. Yeah. I mean, those rings didn't match the gloves. They matched my gloves perfectly. Right. And we're also kind of thinking like, what kind of people are going through and massacring whole towns? Well, I'm glad there's three people grow. There's one man. I called him Shrampito because he has a big time foot fetish. He had gotten all of the shoes of every woman that they murdered in this- Oh, I did have a name for him. You just made it better. Yes. And he's just literally going down on a shoe. Yeah. They tried to brave these guys are. I mean, I was- They got there was no white woman in a dog because they were real and knowing Jordan Rouski, he'd go for it. Yeah. And so we just see him just going to town on these shoes. And then another man called him Samarito because he was a bandito with a katana. This is beautiful. Murray's killing it here. But he had a banana set up and he cut little discs, like 12 slices of banana and the banana he can fall over. And he went so damn fast-griff, it dehydrated him. They were banana chips. Yes. That's how amazing with this sword, this guy, well, you were hanging on the porno theater. This guy was studying the blade. And Murray, I would love for you to tell us about this last man because yes, there's one. Trace Banditos. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Three amigos. I called him holephreholes because he was making an image of a woman out of beans for holes, if you will. And then- Huge bean bush on this one. A huge bean bush. And he went to town on that bean bush. Talk about eating ass after beans, you don't want to eat ass. But he was like, so he's like fucking this bean image. Of a woman. So, you know, these guys are sick. We want to see them die. What's fascinating too, everyone's thinking of beans like how we consume them after they've been refry, after they've been like, uh, re-moisturized and everything. He is eating dry fucking beans. You can hear them cracking his molars as he's making out eating the head and thrusting into rock. Incredible. These guys have such a fucking look to them. And uh, your Samarito, Murray, one of our favorite, wait, yeah, I think it was him. He likes that. He has this phrase that's putting a hat on a hat. Yes. Samarito has a hat on a hat on a hat. He has three hats on. These guys, we always talk about, lived in looks like just fucking people bringing their own and just making it work. They're very interesting, these villains. One guy is wearing like pink long johns. Yeah. Well, that's, yeah, that's the next group we're about to meet. And when we get there, I got a whole fucking theory that I hope you go a long way. Okay. I told Mike about it. And he was like, oh, shit. So Shrimpito spots El, uh, El Topo. Yeah. I keep wanting to tell Joe for some reason, if I do that, I apologize, yeah, but Topo and flash off the mirror. He flashes the mirror to signal Samarito and for Holes that, hey, we got a new fucking someone to fuck with. So and they fuck with them. They see the rings. Yeah. Cause he's wearing those fucking rings. It reminded me of mama from that one, that one black exploitation movie we did. Yeah. He smacks the ass. And then has the killer fingers. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Now I'm thinking, and now you're right. He took the rings to draw them out. Yes. That's what it was. It was he was drawn out banditos because otherwise he's just a fucking dude, an awesome fucking sleeveless G strings. We still work on that name. Like, look, we don't even have a name for a hot. Yeah, I think the magic Billy Drago could weave with those fucking gloves on. I just came in my pants as soon as you said that. You can't do this, Marie. You cannot do this. Do the imaginative crowd we have. You're gonna say Billy Drago G string sleeveless gloves. You can't say that. That is that is like our Voldemort. That is a fetish. It is. Yeah. So they much it's like straight out of high school. You start this literally hazing El Topo. They're like picking at them. Yes. They are walking all four on horses and they're just moting about they're pulling on his beard. He, for some of you who know, you probably have seen this movie most of our audience, but he's got this fucking Jason Manzou gets a look to him these days. Well, in this movie and they're pulling on his beard. They're picking his nose. They're like playing with Eos hat. The one thing they need to apologize to his son is making him ride on the front of the saddle with his fucking little nuts getting crushed. Yes. No, every shot of the kid on the horse. I was like, Joe D'Arrowski, no, please. So yeah, they're taunting him. He's not saying he's no selling it. He's just going about his way. And finally, we arrive at just like this giant rock, again, every fucking shot they have in this movie is cool. And they arrive at this big rattle where there's like some water, so there's all these goats hanging out. So you just have like 80 hanging out goats. It was awesome. Time for the stand up. This is the first where we're going to see El Topo be a badass because three of these guys are going to challenge him to a duel. And how do you, how do you set, start a duel graph in the world of D'Arrowski? I mean, you really got to improvise it, you know, sometimes people would have a coin, they flip it way high into the air as soon as the girl drop a fucking hanky like a drag racer. Yeah, of course got picked up in drag racing, but what do they have on hand right now? Well, sheepskin that they use for a condom back in the day. So they're going to use our intestine rather. Yeah. So they're going to use that as like a balloon animal and they're going to tie it off with just a little room for air to squeak out. And once it's totally empty, draw. So boom, as soon as it's end, Topo kills both Frejoles and Samarito. Two guys on the opposite ends, not the other guy. We always talk about bland henchmen. These guys are amazing looking and we get all of two minutes on top. Yes. And then they're a kill. Yes. So they're going to have a wick with love to have a villain who could call the pinky to these motherfuckers. You won't even see a hat on a hat in a John Wick movie, let alone three. The hat. It's called the hat trick. No. I love it. The hat on a hat for John Wick, guys, we've never seen anything past John Wick one because why would we? They're boring as fuck. The hat on the hat in that movie is a Russian drink and vodka. Yeah. Like that's their hat on a hat. This guy, again, I want to know every one of their backstories but at the same time in this movie context, I don't want to know a fucking thing about them. I also want to point out, did you notice El Topo, his, first of all, his whole looks amazing. They never mind the gloves. The whole look is amazing. Didn't have holsters on his belt. He had holsters on his bell bottoms. He had like, he was like sewn into his fucking pants. Oh my goodness. Yes. Oh my God. Yeah. So Shrimparito, his kind of choice are rifles. He has them on his like belt, like fucking six shooters, but they're rifles. He is dumbfounded by the way. So Topo gets off his horse, beckons Samarito over. Shrimpito. Oh, Shrimpito. Sorry. Shrimpito over. And he's got a gun drawn on him. So Shrimpito is just like, you got me. Like clearly, you're the best man. Topo's horse has gone away, takes both the gun, like he picks it up and is holding it on. Yeah. So Topo can take both the rifles away, offers one to Shrimpito, and it's just like, we're going to fight it out. Yeah, but not like you think they have a sword fight with rifles instead of shooting them. Yeah. And so they're going back and forth. Obviously Topo is projecting his movie level. I'm a badass. Right. I like how you said fake tough guy, because when you, when I thought about it, immediately a reflection of that, it's like, shit, you're right. Yeah. So Topo obviously easily beats him and insult to injury. He just starts picking up, like shoots him in one leg, then the other. The guy's crawling into very, again, we're just exploring the scenery we're in here. It's so cool. Demanding, K-Pasa, no, that's what's up, K that's just what, who, wait, no, who, who, he says who? What's who? I don't know either. It's been four, like, what, no, 19 years since I took my Spanish. I never did take Spanish. I took French. Yeah. So I said, who, who, and the guy's holding out for a while and he starts shooting more and he does the fucking Christ shot. Yeah. We're going to call it the Christ shot. Right in the ribs. Right in the ribs. Right in the ribs. He relents the kernel and five more men at the Franciscan mission. So now he's got a lead. So he goes to that Franciscan mission. But before he leaves, Murray, we got to talk about this because what is this, again, this guy, what was he baited by? The bling. The bling. So before he leaves him, he's leaving him in a pool of water and this comes up a lot, too. There's a lot of pools of bloody water. Yeah. Uh, pops the rings into the guy's mouth and closes it. See, this is the beauty of the show because Griff is riffing off things. I, I said, I'm riffing off things. He says, you're absolutely right. It was just to draw him out. He wasn't brought. I first, I thought he was just robbing the dead, but you're right. Yeah. He was a bait. He knew like, again, it goes into the cinematic purpose of just like connecting strings, but it's so fucking cool. He makes everything work. You're not like, this is a lame. I don't know. We cut to the mission and we see even more evil banditos. We got guy who has carries around a phonograph for some reason. Yeah. And he's got the villagers lined up and he's just shooting them randomly. Yeah. That was the, that was a different guy who we barely even see in this four person. He's like a fifth guy or something. He's got his fucking giant thing of wine. He's the loner of the group because the four guys are like a band of brothers. Yeah. This guy like does his own thing. Yeah. This guy's got all the townsmen lined up. The other four that we're about to meet, they're fucking with the Padres, the fathers, the missionary. Yeah. They're mocking the truth. So it's, but even if you're like a Christian person in 1970 when it came out, you're like, I'm on Altopo side. These guys, because these are the guys that are being sacrilegious. They're ripping the Bible up a tearing pages out full. Oh, and his nose. Full Maryland Manson in it. He's jerking off because guys, I don't know if you know this, but there's pornography. In the Bible, they talk about sexual exploits all the time in the Bible. There's a lot of under the bridge, butthole stuff happening in the Bible. And this guy is enjoying it because we used to have that kind of imagination in 70s. They're warming up their buttholes with crucifixes. Jesus. And then we see the monks. And they've got enough colligular to make it happen. We see the monks and they've told, they've taken a vow of like no violence, pacifism, you know, and they're sticking to it. They're not taking the bacon. These guys are baiting them. They're toying with them. They're just standing still, it's rentedy now, not selling any of this shit. Banditos desecrating everything, Bibles, iguanas, phonographs, yeah, a phonograph question. They have the iguanas and they have leashes on them. And they ride them later on in the movie. I didn't see any horses. Do they ride the fucking iguanas? Of course. Around? Of course. Okay. Did you know I had an iguana grown up? I did not know that. Yeah, that was my first. My father had an iguana. That was like one of my first like, griff got a pet, me and my brother got a pet. We got an iguana. Because on the cool shoes at the time, iguana Don was the fucking like mascot. And I don't know why my mom want us to do it, but we had an iguana. Was it cool? Yeah. It was fucking cool. So for like six years, we had an iguana. So they are, you know, they hate the church and they're going to prove- They just hate everybody. They hate all day. I don't think it's kind of like Trump. They don't particularly hate anything. They just don't give a fuck about anything and they'll say and do whatever makes them feel good in the moment. Right. Right? So they come up to the monks and they think, oh my god, they're going to beat them up. No, they grab them and they start dancing with them. Yeah, they got the music on and they start getting closer and closer and you're like, whoa, are these guys about to kiss? And they did. Yeah. Keep in mind people. I remember like in 1990 when an episode of Roseanne had two women kissing and people lost their fucking mind. The sponsors left. This is 20 years after El Topo, they have two men kissing in fucking Mexico, which is super Catholic. Yup. We don't think of it now. It's like, it's like no big deal. We got to remember people. We got to put this movie into context, 1970. This was some fucking out there shit, just have a man kiss another man in a movie. Exactly. Like, are you always- it's hard to think about. It's hard to think about the past times. People like to say like, oh, we're still caught up because there's still shitty stuff today that you let way down on you. Right. Like, we still do a lot of stupid shit, but shit used to be a lot stupider. Like we have fucking advanced because as much as politics has gone to the right, even fucking liberals- Well, yeah, there's a group there that are still cling- it's the slogan, make America great again. Yeah. They're clinging to the old ways. Yeah. But you understand how far we've been. I can say it in my life, when it comes to far as like all gay people, and in the past ten years, transgender people, you've made a lot of progress, people. I can say that clearly. I've lived it. I saw it. Yeah. Obviously, it's not where it should be, but it's- But it's progress. And the people who need to be ostracized for the fucking just, hey guys, guess what? I mean, you're the hard, hard word here. Retarded comments about some of these folks, it's just stupid, it's fucking stupid. So not only do they dance through these monks, they strip them naked, and they ride them like horses. Yeah. Finally slapping their ass. These guys- With leading. With cacti. I didn't notice that in the first watch. I noticed it in a second. You watch "Unlazed Your Disc" on the second. Candy people, these movies, so fucking beautiful. And then they redress them as women and start putting makeup. They don't have any lipsticks. What does he do? Blood. Cuts his thumb and just wipes blood, and the guy still no cells in it. That's right. He's staying true to his vows that he made as a monk. That's right. So we're like, holy shit, if they do this to men, what are they gonna do to women? Well, Murray, we just had- I don't know what these are called. Do you know what these abodes are called? No idea. Because they are giant conical from the ground, kind of stone hots with like lodges of wood just jammed in there, you know, like symmetrically. And then there's like an eye away and then the second horn on the back, which at first I was like, this shot makes no sense, but then I saw it again and I was like, okay, that shot makes sense. But a woman emerges from it and she's got a bucket and she's heading towards this barrel of water and our guys, and I'll save it for the colonel when the colonel comes out. But our boys see this woman coming out and think about this. We've seen a lot that people, we've seen a lot of dead men, we've seen a lot of men terrorizing people, we've barely seen a young woman in this movie. And when you think about the movie in its entirety, how many young women do we see? Two. Two. Well, three was two and a half. Oh, shit, yeah. My favorite kit comp, two and a half woman. Yep. And there you go. They're licking their chops. You can't wait to take this grope of this broad. Mm-hmm. It reminds me of a certain film series that we enjoy. And they are just going rowdy all over her. And they're like, sometimes the colonel after he's done with women lets the scraps go to his pops. And she's just like, cause they're getting a handsy with her. She's like, the colonel will kill anybody who touches me. And they back up like the fake tough guys, they are back the fuck up. This whole first half is all about big tough guys. Right. This is, this is what toxic masculinity is people. Thank you. People act like all masculinity is toxic. No, this is. No, there is 1000% a good masculinity that is not like, no, a press women. No. So she brings the water back to this, this, uh, hot, whatever you want to call it. And we see, uh, this has to be the ultimate fake tough guy, Donald J. Trump's morning routine. I was getting such Trump vibes off the kernel. The red silk boxers down to his ankles was straight out of the stormy Daniels like retelling hearts on it. It had hearts on it. He's like laying on a mat on the ground, like a baby, like a baby. And I think that's the intent of this shot. Yeah. And it's like a baby. He offers this. He wants some shrimp. He's, he's shrimp. He always off doing something. His own heavy. It's fun. So he needs a little shrimp and yeah, he called her mommy, which is a sexual trend nowadays. People are really into calling mommy and dad and that's I don't love it when you call me big. I never thought baby was a endearing term mommy and daddy is even weirder. So he puts his feet out and she gives him a little, he's a little pig. He went to market. This little pig went home and he's like, yeah, he's giggling me. She helps him get dressed, applies a tattoo. And then she like does like, like a shine, like you're shining the fucking thing on his head. Like a wrap on it and she like, yeah, it was like she was helping him put his toupee on which was fascinating also because it was still bald in the back. Did you notice that? It wasn't a good toupee. Yeah. It wasn't like trumps. It wasn't. I feel a Melania's done this. Well, no, what he did was the thing like everybody knows I'm bald. I'm not going to go 100% I'm going to go 50% so I'm going to look like I still can grow this hair, but I'm still like thinning out in the back. Like he had a modest toupee and she's helping him apply it and she's using like, it was like warm wraps. It looks like you're when you're like shining a shoe. You take like a fucking towel and she's got one, you know, both sides. But you're, you're kind of giving the idea that she's rubbing it. She was just kind of like resting it and pressing down on his head. And then she, she knows the routine. She's been living this fucking miserable life with this miserable fuck for so long. And she, I don't know. I don't know. But I'm assuming it because you're right. She has been like, I, at first, this is the beauty of the show. At first, I thought she was a member of this village, but you're right. She's been with him because she is a drawn to fake tough guys as we'll learn throughout this movie. Well, there's that. And also she knows the routine. She's been living this routine. She's had learned this routine. I've been trying to explain why she's here. Yes. Okay. Oh, she's drunk. Fake tough guys is like her fetish. Yeah. Gets her what? But I, I mean, you could think of that. But then the other thing I think of is just we have not seen like any woman in this movie. At this point, especially, we have not seen some dead ones. Maybe. And even if you look at that with laser disc and enhance, you can't tell because most of the people we've seen at this point that aren't Banditos and aren't Topo and Eo are fucking dead people face down. Yeah. So it's kind of hard to figure it out and they're all like wearing pants and shit. So the, and then this is both the first woman and the first young woman. So maybe Colonel just likes fucking young woman. So yeah, he's a fake tough guy. Of course. Yeah. And when I say young women, I mean mid twenties where I want to point that out just because it's a surrealist art film and we already have a naked boy. We don't have a naked young woman in this. Which I always thought he was a bigger part of the movie than he turned it down to me. Yeah. Cause again, cause again, I'm so, Murray brought like he addressed this a while ago. We've known we were going to do this movie probably a month ago. Yeah. And I went out because we wanted to make sure we could find it. Yeah. And I looked for it and I was like, I watched like a minute of it. I was like, there's a naked boy in this. And I jumped forward like 10 minutes and I was like, there is still a naked boy in this. Then I jumped forward to a scene. Obviously we'll get to later. And I was like, what the fuck are we about to do? Can we do this? Yes. We can. That's a teaser. Stay tuned. So she goes for the boots, and this is why I boots the waiters. This is why I was saying she's lived this life for a while now. Cause she instinctively goes for the boots and he goes, no, I did not tell you to get my boots. Do not anticipate my orders because, yeah, this is the thing. She is a track. She wants to be with, cause first of all, you'll, we'll learn we're like baby facing her. That's a cunt. All right. We'll learn later on in the fucking movie. I hated her. Yeah. She was a bitch. She's meant to be hated. And she is drawn to the bad, like a lot of women are, she's drawn to the bad boy, but she sees through it now. She sees that the Colonel is a fake tough guy. Right. So she's stuck with him now, but she's over him. Guys, can I please make this comparison and maybe it'll work? She is Melania. Yeah. And she made a deal with the devil and now she's got to put up with that. Exactly. And I don't think, like, I feel bad for Melania, but I feel, no, no. I believe you has it. Griff. Thank you. I know. I know. She is Mara, Melania. I know. Marlani. What I'm going to say is just like, I feel bad for her because I don't think any, any person should ever come to the situation where they're like, this is a good idea. That is sad because they probably met each other as an adult too. And she was just like, yeah, I want to go along with that. And fucking said everything. Anybody would come to the decision to be near a Donald Trump, like, you make a deal with the devil? Yes. And so Mara made a deal with the devil and now she's fucking deal with her. And guys, if we haven't really solidified the fucking Donald Trump comparison, what does this woman do? Because she fetches the boot. She's told, no, not my fucking boots. Okay. Now my fucking boots because I told you to, like, it's me. It's me, bitch. It's a Donald J. fucking Trump. I'm keeping you on your toes, bitch. She has to put the fucking lifts in his God. We don't need to do, we don't need to do the JD, wait, was it Cruz, Ted Cruz that everybody or was it? Who was it? No, Florida guy. DeSantis. DeSantis. DeSantis. DeSantis. We've got it. DeSantis. That situation, well, Trump too. We already know that because of his, yeah. And yeah, she puts the lifts in his boots, Tom Cruz. And now we see the men that these guys outside fear the colonel. That's right. He's full regalia. It's like some medals, a door and everything. He's not a coward, despite his bone spurs. Walks outside and the fan deal is gravel and like, oh, please, we did not mean because they thought she fucking and rad and on them because they, you know, trying to fuck her. Yeah, baby. And like, we didn't do anything. And he's please. You know, I thought, I thought you were one, no, no, no, no, everything's good, everything's good. And I just have an angle. He's reveling in it and, you know, you know what this, you know what this feels like right now to me as I watched this the second time through, and I'm interested to hear it though. It's a toe cutter. This was so fucking pre mad max, mad max kind of like biker gang. Yeah. Think about, you got Carl this like, we're fucking charismatic character that like, I think toe cutter was actually kind of cool. Yeah. I mean, not, not his axe or anything, but this guy is obviously a total fake toe cutter, at least had his own hair and all that. And he had like, I don't know, would you consider toe cutter a fake tough guy? I think turns out he is, because remember he runs like a bitch from max at the end. That's true. That's true. I thought he was just kind of like a lost team, you know, like mid 20s rebel without a cause type of guy. And then when finally rubber hit the road to make a more, you know, bike on road analogy, he fucking turned him flat. Uh, but when I saw the colonel in these fucking groups and everything, I was just like reminded of some of the mad max scenes when the motorcycle gang arrives in that little fucking podunk town and they're just running havoc on it. And I was like, shit, I wonder if George Miller was influenced by this kind of shit. That would be surprised. They have a look. Every part, the four banditos were talking about it, they all have their own look. There's pink guy who's tall, there's fucking guy with the silver mustache and like, he's got bows tied around his wrist and shit. Like they're flamboyant, they're devil it. I like, I don't know. It was very mad max. They have riz. They do. So these are his dogs of war to take another line from road warrior, Laurie Marcus. He makes them gravel like dogs. And they get down on their hands and knees and are making dog barking noises. He's like, he's like, I want you to beg for this pussy I have here. And so they do and they get back to their feet and they're dancing around and tongues are lapping out of their mouths and he goes, good, good, good dogs stay. And then he turns to Mara, Mira Mara Mara, Mara, kiss them all on the mouth. Right. He's got, he's, he can see that she's slipping away from him. So he has to regain. That's why he slapped her with a boot thing. He's always trying to keep her on her toes. Yeah. Well, I like that. Toes. He stays on his toes. To the lips. So he has to now put her in her place because she kind of like, there's a, there's a good chain of command. Yeah. She talked back to his men. So he's like, he has to punish both of them in a way. We also have to remember he has no fucking traits to offer her. He's a shell of a human being. He's a fucking complete narcissist piece of shit. He's got nothing, no warm characteristics. So of course, the only way he can keep people under his thumb is by doing this kind of bullshit. Yeah. Yeah. So he, he makes her kiss them all on the mouth. She tries to pack one of them and he goes, oh, no, girl, I'm half chub here. I want full chub. Really kiss them. Well, this is going on. We cut back to the edge of the town where we see the one guy, the loner Bandito, he's just like guard duty watching. And Al Topo sneaks up on him. I thought he had some weird kind of like ninja web. It was just a knife. It was just a knife. It's one of the greatest shots I've ever seen. I don't know if people have used it as a meme these days because literally I had no idea what was happening because it's just like a three second cut over to him to show like Al Topo has arrived. Yeah. Because while the Banditos are having their fun, this guy is literally, he has all the villages lined up in a wall and he's just randomly just shooting, not even looking, shooting people in the back, walking down the line with a gallon of wine, just sipping on it, just shooting people. They're falling over again. You can't tell men from women because yeah, it's all over. So yeah, gets a knife, falls down from his lookout tower and we see like a close up of a guy with a knife and isn't that anyway, cut back to the colonel. The dogs have all gotten their kisses and then the colonel pushes her down on the ground and says feast my dog. Yeah, he's like, you know what my dog's like titties go ahead and reveal those titties. So he realizes, this is what I believe, he realizes she's over him. So he has to dump her before she dumps him. Right. That's why he feeds her to his dogs of war. But it also keeps his dogs of war in Shaq because they're like our colonel is good dogs. Not only do we get victories and whatever that is to them. But he gives us the scraps and we heard it in the like, I'm just so fascinated because I thought Jodarowski just did like weird segmented weird shit. I didn't think this movie was going to connect as well as it did. And like things lead into the other things lead into the other things like it. He actually wrote a good fucking screenplay. I think so just as they're about even like there's an interesting uses of audio in this too. There's women that sound like men men that sound like women and there's men that sound like dogs. So they're literally or is it was it dogs because there is a lion thing later. There's lions. There's monkeys. There's all kind like this is like again, this is the fun of. So as they're about to just devour for Mara, Topo kicks the doors open. Him and Hale are there and they got the drop on them. So they disarm all of the Banditos and the Colonel. That's right. And now we're all coming to a circle and everything and he's got a fuck with Colonel because Colonel's the top honcho. So you got that moment there where it's like everybody backs off and they're just watching. And so one of the Banditos though, they didn't check his collar. Oh, that's right. He has a gun hidden in his collar. He goes for it and Topo, boom, blast him away. I don't know if he gave him the Jesus spear shot. Did he give it? I think he shot him in the head. No, because this guy walks off to get his photograph. Oh, that's right. I think he did give. I think that is a theme. Yeah, he got the Jesus shot so right above the hip and this guy instead of just like killing over and dying, he's got like the thousand paces in him. So it goes over and this is the guy who's obsessed with music. So you got one guy who was like one Bandit who was reading quote, he was playing with the book. One guy was playing with the music. The one guy, like I was like, I wonder if there's something else happening here. I didn't look enough into it, but yeah, he goes over against his photograph and dies with a end of act one act two, Genesis. Now the tides have turned. All the monks are now armed and they're fucking pissed, man. They were ready for some revenge because A.O. gives them the guns. He's sitting in the sandal with him. I can't wait. There's also a very interesting thing. I actually didn't pick up on it. I read about it. But it'll be interesting. We're getting to it. I really want to read more about this. So Topo is like, he sees though, this is the big tough guy. Yeah. I got to take him out. I got the Alpha. Don't exhaust yourself taking out all the fucking underlings. Go for the top dog. Right. We take out the head and then the body just withers and dies. That's right. So he's going to have a fucking duel. This is a Western. We got to have the shoot off. That's right. And I love that Topo, again, stylistic choices of Joe Duroowski because Topo's always doing like hand cross things and he's just super stylistic. Do you think we've always said Billy Drago invented hand acting? Do you think it really was Joe Duroowski and that Drago was a disciple? They might have been kind of like students together because I could. If you said, yeah, Billy Drago went out a world tour to find himself and like him and Joe Duroowski met in some weird fucking theater, working for tamales, I'd be like, yeah, that's very true. That's very real. Is that, yeah, they're hand acting to both of them. They know how to act with every fucking little bit of them. Colonel is scared shitless. The tough guy has become the fake tough guy and he's like cowering because he sees this guy's fucking the real deal. So we think. Right. So Joe Duroowski or Topo knows like this draws fake. No one believes that Colonel has a shot figurative literally at me. So he turns his back. He puts his arms up and turns his back and says, I'm on a like a true coward. That's where the Colonel goes for his gun. But Topo's got the drop on him, boom, like a cat, this fucking behind the back. No look shoots the gun out of his hand people. Then an insult to injury shoots the two pay off his head and walks right up to him and just shoots the two pay off his head, drips the fucking guy down to his fucking red satin on these and again, he does it in like the TikTok way where like the people put their hand in front of the camera and pull back out and like the scene has completely changed. He just pull like puts his hand forward and grabs at his belt loop and then pulls and suddenly this guy is in his red down to his ankle drawers again is Bandito's turn on him. He's been exposed there. They found a new fucking tough guy to follow. That's right. So everybody is gathering around. They're all laughing their ass off. They're seeing their Colonel be stripped down literally. And then El Topo starts going down for his belt where he's got a couple of knives and Colonel's begging him, please, you've got to tell me, who are you to do this to me? He's only offended by it. It's like, who are you to judge me? Oh, that was it. Yeah. Yeah. I am God. The total line from a fake tough guy. This gun makes me God. Yeah. There is. So we're getting this is some very social commentary on our American culture. Exactly. The gun makes you God, right. So the Bandito's loving it. They found a new master and they're taunting the Colonel. They pin him down. Topo pulls out of that fucking Rambo knife. Yeah. Again, all of his crew are now chaining for him to be castrated. They're all in favor. They're like, yes, we want to see a dick and the shot they do. He does an upward stroke and there's like a rainbow of blood. And yeah, that cut his dick off balls go fucking flying. And then we just get the naked side shot of Colonel walking holding his injured, you know, is now missing dick and he's just creeping over to where his gun is in the corner and he just powers and he literally has no balls. Yeah. That's called metaphors, people blows, it kills himself unalives himself. I'm sorry. Yeah. And then we go back to the time where the villagers are bag like putting bags over the Banditos and shooting them up. So now Mara Mara, by the way, is nameless at this point. Yeah, I was just going to say she has no name at this point. She's like found. She's in her mind. I finally found the real tough guy, the real tough guy. So topo does not reach out for her. She takes his hand and puts it on her breast and he just kind of like pulls it back and walks back to his horse. He eo in total. I was getting another vibe, low wolf and cub. I wonder if this three days long little cover came after it. Well, it's like 73 or something. And I thought low wolf and cub is like 60s. Well, this is 70. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I said. He says 73. It's a 70. Oh, he would. This was 70. Okay. Yeah. I think it was. The movies came out in the 70s. But I think the manga had come out in the 60s. I could see low wolf and cub. Yeah. Obviously cubs a little older. So eos ready to fucking book. He's like, let's go. We're out in the next town. Mara just fucking facepoms and pushes him. I was like, no, you take me. Mara starts getting in on fucking because after the breast thing happens, she tries to close in on him again as he's about to hop on his horse. This is of course topo. And she gets in there and topo actually he's like, oh shit. That's right. I'm in the women. And he starts like brushing her hair off her face and stuff and you're like, oh shit. He's starting to get caught up a little bit in her fog. And that's when he'll cause he said, no, topo's high on his own smog. He's toe and he's so into himself. Okay. So he said I am God for fuck's sake. So he is like indifferent. He's just like, I don't know which way this is going to settle. So he pushes like EO at this point, wages in between both of them. And he'll or topo just pushes Mara away. And then Mara and EO are now in a race to get to the horse. Right. And topo's loving that. Yeah. Topo is loving this. The fact is. Who loves me more. Exactly. Yeah. So being the woman and the adult, she just takes EO by the collar and just like throws him. Well, not the collar. He's naked. But yeah. But yeah. Back of the neck like a cat and just throws him away. And so she's getting on the, she gets on the horse and now she's in a whole new outfit by the way. She's in like yellow and brown instead of just like the brown robe. And this is interesting because EO comes up to the horse and even fucking topo's just like, yeah, you had your chance. But he has this big line for him. Destroy me. Depend on no one. Classic fake tough guy lines. He's like, he wants, he's like basically, and it's like, you're my son, therefore you are me, you're a duplicate of me. So you must be as tough as me. Right. You need. There's nothing to do with a child who needs a father, needs somebody to care for him. Yeah. He's just like, you need to go on your catcher in the right journey. You need to find yourself holding. Get out there. Yeah. Depend on no one fucking. I didn't pick up on this, but apparently the, they, the, he joins the, the monks. He goes by the monks. The kid, he's dressed now. Yes. In a robe. That's not Brontas. No, it is. Jodoroski. Yeah. We often hear about body doubles for nude scenes. This is a body double for a clothes scene. That is. Oh my God. Has it ever been non-history of movies? We can sit there. That's so funny. Yeah. Oh my God. All right. So they tell the, the other fucking monks tell them like, cry, cry, appeal to your father's senses. Because he's being a fucking menace right now. But he won't cry. All right. And, uh, Topo, write it off. He's passed down the fucking toxic masculinity to his son. And I love this about the scenes we're about to talk about because we're cutting to Topo and Mira, just Mara, just riding around. First she's in the back and her ass is like hanging out of her, like her little pants that she has on here. They're like, they do, they do not try to make these people look sexy. Only she had the thong hanging out. Exactly. Like if they did that movie today, it'd be Megan Fox, she would have like a G string hanging out or something. And it would just be like, this is weird. But they are just like making this just, yeah, she's all in that fucking cocksmog. She's like, I finally found my tough guy. The first shot is her riding back holding on to him. The second shot, which happens like between in a span of six seconds is her throttling him in front, like trying to ride him while riding the horse. So they stop at like an oasis. Is this where he's like on the fucking rock playing the flu? Is it a waterfall in the background? Yeah, beautiful shot. And he's just playing that little flute music doing some fucking Ian Anderson shit. That's right, Mara is hanging out by the water and she's just bathing herself a little bit. Holding a baby bird in her hand, sitting by a park bench, and she starts sipping on the water. She's like, it's so bitter. What is this? And this we get a little bibble. This is where she gets her name, finally, because he tells the story about Moses and they had come up on bitter water as he's doing this, he's swirling a branch in the water. He finds a giant branch and just starts swirling the water and he's like Moses found water and he called Mara and he stirs the water and then she goes, it was bitter water. His people were thirsty, but the water was bitter. And she drinks from the water and goes, this is like the sweetest water I've ever had. I will call you Mara, because you are like bitter water. He's got her figured out, man. Yeah. Oh, now he's been through the desert on a horse with no name. They're just going around through the desert. Okay, you want to handle this? This did confuse me this is this is this at the point where they figured out that they need. No, they haven't. We haven't got to our mission of this, yeah, because we're like, where's this movie going? What's our next goal here? They're wandering through the desert. And what we're about to learn is that we were kind of like, he is kind of too badass. He is not real for this world. His gun skills are too far beyond. He is. He's looking for a challenge is what he's looking for. No, well, what I was going to say is he's pulling a high-plane shifter worth like, he's got to be some kind of mythical being. He does not. His skills are too advanced. I don't, I don't agree with that. I think he wants that. That's what he's that's his ultimate goal. He wants to achieve Godhood. He wants to be the high-plane shifter. Sure. When I'm watching this. I don't believe that. He's, he's, he's, he's right out of the playbook of a fake tough guy. I bought into the whole Jodorowsky weirdness. So when he's doing all of his fucking, I'm so incredibly advanced skilled, I didn't think of Western. I thought Jodorowsky being a fucking freak. So I thought, and especially since he's been saying, well, I'm God, I thought he actually was some kind of weird, God, deity type of situation. And then I disagree, but it's, it's your opinions. Yeah. Yeah. No, this is what I thought as I was watching the movie. So now as I love your tough guy theory, I think it's fucking phenomenal. And now we're going through the desert and Mara is asking him, like, how are we supposed to fucking survive this shit? He just gets off and he's like, the crack, see, this is the thing, Graf. The cracks you're showing. She'll, first of all, she's never going to meet a perfect man. She's always, she's always going to be searching because there's no one's going to live up to her ideals. Right. So the cracks are always showing in his tough guy demeanor for her and we'll, and we'll learn in a moment. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's really interesting. It's like, you're never going to live up to her expectations because she can, because you can never live up to this woman's fucking expectations. She is. She has no understanding of herself. She doesn't know her mind. She doesn't know. This girl. I wish we could do one of these tippy taps that we always theorize about off mic. You guys didn't even get to hear about me and Murray talking about death. We did a fucking sad 20 minutes off mic about death, religion, like, this is what Jodorowsky does to you. And hey, friends, if you want to do a Jodorowsky movie with us, yes, playing out a long evening, but yes, we want to fucking do that because holy mountain, I want to so bad. I want to watch holy mountain so bad. Yeah. So do I. Because I've seen just images and they look really cool. Dude, what I remember from watching it to call. Oh, yeah. Anyway. So now we got Jodorowsky out here, Topo out here, and he's trying to just plow this woman with fucking miracles. So we stands out, they get off the horse, they're just in the middle of the desert, just digs his feet in the sand, spreads him wide, spreads eagle, and then she starts digging underneath them and finding ping pong balls, eggs, there's supposed to be eggs and there's yolks in them. Yeah. And so they have sustenance. They have some kind of food, some kind of calorie to consume here. It's a miracle. And then she's like, yes, but what about water, he turns and shoots a rock and suddenly it's a water. Random rock spire is like there. Yeah. And then water starts pouring out and Topo prays to God. And yeah, that my only thirst, it's not for actual water, actual essence of my human body. Yeah. I want to correct that Topo doesn't think he's God, he thinks he's Christ. He's the son of God and God will answer his prayers and he does because the rock starts emitting water. So we see, he's now training Mara on this, but she sees it only in the physical aspect, not the philosophical aspect, not the theological aspect, the metaphysical aspect. And so she shoots at a rock and nothing, nothing or as they say in Spanish. And then she digs on like, she spreads eagle or something and he digs under her, no eggs. Nothing. And then we get to the scene where she's just walking in circles and she's so defeated because every one of the miracles, she's trying to pull because she's, she doesn't believe in these things. She's trumping it. She says like, oh yeah, I believe, I believe. I went my whole year, you know, life without believing in this kind of thing. But you know, in five minutes, I've just decided I believe no. Right. So no miracles are happening for her. She's walking in a circle, she's completely in dismay, nada, nada, and in the middle of that circle, Topo, and he's just like in meditation. And finally, he's just like, I've had a fucking enough of this shit. You need a good fucking is what you need, woman. So then we just like doing a abrupt cut to him standing in the midst of her circle. She's done a hundred circles around him in the same exact path. And now we standing in that path, faced out and she just bumps into him and then he like pushes her off before he stood up. He started undoing his pantaloons and everything and so you're like, Oh, what? And sure enough. And you, you told me there's a little behind story I heard was that to promote this movie, George Rousky claimed, because this is a rape scene, he claimed he really raped her. He said, this is rolling up one shot. Yeah. I'm going to fuck you. And then he came later on, he said, no, that was just the publicity thing. I was being an edge Lord, you know, I did not rape this woman. It is not hard to believe that he would do something like that. And we don't really always see his own ripper clothes off. We don't see him really. We don't really have a rape. Yeah. No, it's just like you like to believe it is a very intense scene. They did a fucking great job with this scene. But then we just start getting cuts as she's screaming out because even though it's like she's in them, like that's a good message for people today, like just because you're in a fucking relationship doesn't mean you can just take your man or woman at any time or man and man or woman and woman, a partner, I should say, she like we get the cuts of her like in the water floating and she's screaming out. It's supposed to be supposed to be the bitter water or something that I got. She but that like, is this supposed to believe that through fucking her, he gave some of his magic to her because now she can do what he can do. She finds the eggs. She shoots the rock and water comes out. Yeah. It's awful. It's like it's supposed to be like the struggle brings truth kind of idea. But at the same time, it's like does that mean that fucking Topo got raped by somebody and that brought truth to him or is it supposed to be just, truths are hard to come by and you have to fucking like go through a lot to get them? You have to suffer in order to, there is a belief of that. You have to suffer for your art or for whatever. So I wanted to read more about some of like how people interpret these things. It didn't end up happening. I didn't get the fucking time to do it. No. I alluded to earlier that the cracks were showing like she, she, he was God to her. But now the cracks are showing the fake tough guys coming out. Now she can do what he can do. She believes she's his equal, if not his better. So she no longer worships him. She's like, if you want my love, you need to do something for me. Not to mention we, they have no pack. They have no clothes. They are wearing and carrying everything they have. And yet she's in a different blouse now. She's in like a maroon blouse now. Women always have tons of clothes. Apparently she added up her after something. She took all the shoes from Shurpedo. He didn't need them. There we go. Um, but yeah, she, do you, do you love me? No. You're a bitch. You're right. It was like now now. Cause we get the scene of her digging up the eggs. She touches a rock to a rock and water. So she's like, no, I'm the same as you. Yeah. You're no longer special. Yeah. He, so now he knows deep down, like all fake tough guys knows that he's a fake, the person who knows a fake tough guy is the fake tough guy. The most is the fake tough guy. So he's like, holy shit, I got to get my mojo back. I got it. Holy shit, I got to get my mojo back. I got to get this bitch back in, you know, in line. Right. His eyes are wide open. What will do it for this woman? The only way to be the guy I need to be is, uh, I need you to go take on the four gunmen. Gunmasters. Gunmasters. Gunmasters. Gunmasters. Gunmasters. Of the desert. Kill them. And then maybe you'll get my love. Maybe. Cause you need to be the best. They get the best. He's got a high, you know, but he's like, how will we find them? The desert is like a circle. Aha. I'll go in a spiral. That's right. The journey is going to be difficult though. But he's like, I will finish my goals because if they are real masters, they will give me a signal. They'll like alpha game recognizes game. They will call out to me if I call out to them. And so they go on their journey and she's bitching nonstop. We've been walking for days, months, years. And finally a signal is, uh, a signal flare is shot. All right. So we're traveling this fucking desert and, as you said, Mara, it's just constantly. When are we going to be there? When's the next pit stop? I've been waiting for a fucking sheet forever. I want some of that delicious gas station food. There's no gas station. What about the four masters? The masters will send us the signal. We'll find them because he's got, he actually has faith. He's not trumping. Game recognizes game. Right. He's not trumping this shit. He knows it's real. He knows people like him really exist. And so he's like, no, we'll find them. We'll travel and our destiny, our destination will bring itself. And then, sure enough, I thought there actually was a signal in the sky, but it, where's my mic going here? I apparently have pulled my mic way off the fucking table. Um, there is like some kind of signal. And then we see that there is a random, well-like structure, a silo almost. Silo is probably the better way to point it out. Big brick and mortar silo. And this is where we meet as Griff put in our notes, master, blaster. We have a legless guy being carried piggyback by an armless guy. It's good shit. I think, I think this is, I haven't seen enough Jorowski to say, but doesn't he incorporate a lot of like handicapped kind of people and his movies kind of. I think, because he's into the absurd. Like I was saying that he would, when absurd kind of. He really likes the whole Jesus leper thing. And so whenever I saw like, because he, sorry, everybody spoil a little bit. He seems to really like this side of folks, you know, he really likes casting people who have deformities and shit. Like Alpha Man, I feel like he would jerk off over. Maybe he seemed very obsessed with. So this isn't one of the masters though. This is like the emissary, the guy, the gatekeeper, if you will, to the real master. And they tell him the master makes everyone wait. And sure enough, he points out somebody who's currently waiting. Right. And Griffin, I both thought, like we said, we've only seen one woman in this movie. We thought this was Mara. One woman and also, again, I think we are both banking on this movie being weir. So we thought there was going to be more like weird meaning. And these women look kind of close because Mara has no makeup on. And then we cut over to this woman who's now El Topoed Out. So it's very easy to be like, oh shit, that's just Mara now completely dressed up. A character we will call Fopo, because she is the female Topo. Yes. Not because she's fake. No, but she is very close to Fopo, F-A-U-X Fopo, no female Topo. And she like, she is she's dressed not exactly like him, but wearing like black leather. Hat, got. What's cool? Looks great. Gone goes off. The master will now see you. This is so weird. The master will see you. He makes everybody wait. But your female companion must go to the oasis that he's talking about Mara. No bras. So Topo, in order to because the we learned the master called the blind man. Yeah. In order to. A lot of just like makeshift ladders in this tale, you'll notice that they're everywhere here. And so he's starting to send that ladder, but master blaster tells him, no, you must forfeit your hat and your gun. I understand the gun. Why the hat? Why the hat? I probably wanted to wear it. You know, he can't because he's got no arms. The hat? You can't put it on. I mean, is that what that's the master can put it on the master can blaster is the body. Yeah, he would not have been able to put the hat on your. You're right about that. Yeah. So he is sends the ladder against the silo gets on the roof. There's a there's a sheep laying on a door. Right. He pets the sheep, which again, that's very Jesus, right? Yeah. Shepherd of sheep. Shepherd of sheep. Yeah. One of his many names. That's right. He moves this sheep aside, opens the open the trap door and goes descends into where the blind man is sitting and waiting. I do not need the light. I'm beyond the light. I'm beyond sight. This is well, we'll learn the four masked gunmasters are real tough guys because they've transcended the need to be seen as tough guys. Right. They're confident in who they are. They don't need to swing their dick around. They don't need to threaten people, make people scared of them. They have reached enlightenment. Right. So this is what this is what we'll learn and they all they all came by it in different way. Right. So he's just like, like in the low, uh, the, uh, uh, we call Chris cross applesauce position. Chris applesauce on a little bench that he's got set up made of stone, of course, and he's got a little stone figure in front of home. And he's wearing his little fong and he says, count to three and grab this figure from me. Oh, no, dose, try can't get it places it on the back of topo's hand. And topo just brings it back at how how I try not to win, but to achieve the perfect domain so as not to fear the bullets. Because that's the thing about you're confident in yourself. You don't have to win games growth. It doesn't matter. And topo's fuck is still pissed off that he lost this fucking game. And it's just fucking the game and keep away. You think he was pissed? I thought he seemed to be afraid about it or he yeah, because it's, he's really, he's finally realizing I'm not as tough as I am, but he's fighting it. He's like, no, I am tough, he's like, he's and I'll beat tough by proving it by beating you. He's like a teenager who's a fish out of water, you know, he's a little too big for that pond. And then when he gets out of there, he realizes they're bigger fishes. Right. So he's finally meeting a bigger fish. And the guy he's got our blind man, he's got all these bullet wound scars over him. And topo starts tracing him and the guy's like, the bullets mean nothing to me. Like they've gone through my internal organs, you know, arteries, nothing happens to me. Yeah, he says they hit the like empty spaces or something like that. Yeah, he gives it a very like action movie trope, like explained it away. So to improve his point, he has master blaster shoot him. Yeah, we get a shot of them just a sending letter like, why are we doing this? And then he goes, shoot me here and we're like, what? And then it cuts the master blaster up top with topo's gun and they shoot right through his, like the back of his shoulder. Right. And he bleeds barely, just a little bit, I bleed just so you can see how little affected has on me offers his head bloody hand to him and topo just like, what the fuck? I let the bullets pass right through me. Do you still think you can beat me? It's like, I will beat you, but blind doesn't fear killing. And as he explains the topo, there's no death. I'm not afraid to kill you. And he's tells topo, I don't even give a shit if you take the first shot towards. All right, so topo, we joined him. He goes back to that oasis where my freaked out. He's just like, holy shit. I met a real tough guy. I can't beat this guy. It's impossible. But he's got his hometown girl with him and just like, he ain't so tough. Well, cheat. We'll win. It's all about us, babe. It's us against the world. See what she's doing? You see what she's doing. Yeah, that's exactly what she's doing. And this once again, it's just falling into this, the, like I said, it's the dilemma of the fake tough guy. He is like a real man would have integrity. You would fight a guy fairly. You will go to Easter market, get into a fight over a parking spot and settle it verbally or the fisticuffs, not drive to a set of a loss, you'd accept that loss and just leave. Now he's contemplating cheating and shit because he's just like, I got to win no matter what. I have to get my fucking wrist back. How much of you of this did you think was him and not her inserting into his brain because he seemed like humbled by the game recognizing game. She did not recognize that game because she was not there and she is just trying to step on a neck to climb a ladder. And I don't mean to feminize this whole perspective. This is just very much like a fucking piece of shit perspective. Like we have too many male figures in the world who do this kind of shit. Well, no. Mara is a piece of shit. Yes. This is what we learned. I'm not trying to narrow down to a female perspective. It's just, she is the glider of life. She's a representative of a certain kind of woman. And especially at this time, because we're talking 1970 and we're talking Old West. Women have no power. Okay. So you have to get your power through your man. Okay. Yes. So she's got to be with the strongest, biggest, toughest man. She's Nancy Reagan. Throw go. So yeah, I mean, you might be onto something. She might be like, maybe this would like, he's on the path to enlightenment, but she's fucking damping it down. She's like, no, we got to beat this guy. Right. No, I mean, I feel like my Nancy Reagan fucking thing is dead on at this point because I don't think Ronald would as bad as he was if it weren't for fucking Nancy pushing him along. I sound terrible here. Um, they're terrible. The both of them are terrible. Right. They're terrible women. Okay. Yeah. You know, like we were saying masculinity isn't toxic, but there is toxic masculinity. Yes. And people, the people are getting, I think people get confused with that nowadays. Oh, yeah. Well, because yeah, the two get tied together so quick. I mean, that's what the gunmasters are. They are proper masculinity. Yeah. Topo is toxic because he believes you can only be a man by killing people and dominating people. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm sorry, everybody, come on. This is a fucking surrealist art movie. So now the duel is happening. They're going to face off. Blind man. Perfectly common. He got a nice little, his hair did by his guys. He got his hair braided by a blasters feet because he has no hands, his hands, his arms. Again, this movie is just full of shots that you're just drawn to and time just goes away. You don't, you're not, it's not bone tomahawk where you're just like, why? Why are we watching the scene for nine minutes? No, no chicory at all. Oh, thank God. He's gets, he gets some bread dots painted on him. He's getting his war paint on. He's ready to go. I was wondering if that was like another religious thing because like we, we do have like our Indian dots and everything and I don't, I don't know my religions. So now they start walking towards each other until there's like, it was just like a pile of tumbleweeds like in front of the blind man. It's so cool though because both of them are barely lifting their feet. We're thought the blind man's so cool. He would walk confidently, but even he is just barely lifting his feet, just kind of sliding through the sand. So I thought that was kind of interesting. Blind man falls into his topos trap. He had a little pit and he falls right into it. So now he's like up to his neck. Yep. Topo shoots him in the head. He lost his focus because that was his thing is like he was constantly in a meditative of when we saw him in the well, he was in a meditative state and everything. The bullet pass. And topo is cheated. Yeah. Well, yeah. The bullet pass right through him because he was in his meditative, but he gets hit by the sudden shock of falling and you notice, maybe you didn't notice the scene before as Mara is telling him, you need to cheat to win. You need to do anything at any cost to fucking get these four gunmen. Topo is descending in the water so slowly leaving just his hat floating on the surface. It was foreshadow. Oh, so that's where you got the idea of the trap idea of making the blind man fall into it. Yeah. Yeah. And so then he's like, he's got his fucking Riz back. He's like, yeah, like deep down, I think you're honest, I'm a deep down. He wants to attain what they have, but he's still stuck in his old ways. He's like, I have to be a badass to be a man. It's the pursuit of what you think will make you happy. I need to make money at any cost because they don't make me happy. And then, yeah. So he's like, yeah, I'm a man again. Throws the gun to Mara. She just starts shooting at master blaster. Nice. She is laughing maniacally. Right. This is where we break the cover of. Well, if you're a sane person, the scene where Mara's telling cheat at any cost, it doesn't matter. You've got to be the fucking best because only I get the best and you have to be the best. So that's a mask off scene, but this is like really, if you're still on board with Mara at this point, because she has grabbed that gun, laughing hysterically, shooting blaster off in the distance and well, blaster, he has a gun, but he has no arms. So he's like, he's trying to grab for it with his little stub hands. Yeah. And then she shoots him sadistically. And so, yeah, I mean, if anybody's like the evilest person's movies, Mara, yeah, Topo's at least trying to go on this journey. Like Topo is completely lost. Like he feels confident himself, but he's unsure of himself and especially as he meets the gunman, you see, he is realizing the veneer of tough guy is breaking down. Right. And so he's trying to ascend. He is trying to evolve as a man, you know, break beyond toxic masculinity. And she is. Well, because he's finally getting examples of what it is to be a true tough guy. Yeah. All these fucking like feminine, weird dudes, just artful dudes, one with the world dude are just like, seriously, you used to fuck. You think Mo and the law makes you cool. You think waving in a flag makes you fucking cool. You think carrying a gun with you makes you cool. So Topo being the lesser of the two evils does put Master Blaster back together. She is like trying to stomp on blaster masters face and laugh at him and piss on his head and fucking Topo has to push her over like stop peeing on this man puts the two together so they can, you know, be one and then, you know, they have a nice little grave already set out for because they made that pitfall. Mara is orgasmic. She strips down and we go back and just jumps in the water and loving it. Oh, yeah. I got the baddest motherfucker in the world right now. And we got Topo just laying up just like stay with his back tomorrow, just staring up like the fuck did I just do? I just cheated. Did I really win? Did I really achieve anything by doing this? And then we get, uh, Topo comes up and over the second signal is if you want to follow me. And he's like, he just kind of gives her a nod. Topo is a man of few words, so he just kind of gives her a nod. And then Mara sees Topo. And they have a little interaction, yeah, friction that happens here. I would say it's friction. It's like because it's a positive thing. It's like, I think she has an attraction to Topo. Maybe she's like people in leather, but they wind up in, uh, in the pool. I think does Topo handle the mirror? Well, this is kind of weird because we get, this is when we get into some of the more abstract weirdness here because like, you got Topo in her leather and then suddenly it's like a close up and she's naked and then she's extending her tongue out to Mara. And she's got a little green M&M and a little blue M&M, which we didn't see this in a laser disc. It was Skittles. Oh, they were Skittles. Yeah, it was Skittles. There was no slettos on the green, lime and blueberry of course, blue raspberry actually. And so Mira, you think would take one, Mara would take one of them. Takes a Mira. Oh, you mean that? Yeah. Mara decides she's going to take both of them. Yes. And I thought that was an interesting choice, which there's got to be self fucking meaning to that. Matrix is matrix. Yeah, she's like, I choose to accept both. I want to be in the fake world and the real world at the same time. Right. Both of them. And then suddenly, Fopo is back on the outskirts and just hands her a little mirror. And then we just get shots of Mara and her tits staring at her own reflection. Why is that? Because Mara will never love anyone more than she loves herself. Yes. So, no matter what Fopo does, he'll never get her love because she'll want something after that. And remember, a few scenes ago, he would say, she asked him, do you love me? He said, yes. I love you. And she said, I'll never love you unless you fucking, you constantly have to prove your love. You got a constant. Yeah. So they get on the horse to go off to the next gunman and she's still looking at herself in the mirror. And finally, Topo realized it and it's like, turns around and shoots out the mirror that we just get a nice shot of Mara picking up all the pieces and handing them over to Topo who puts them in like a little sack. Yes. Right. He lives on level two for the next boss and he meets a woman, a gypsy woman, and she's got the fucking tarot card. Oh, we also had that fucking one shot where they're having sex and she's just staring into the mirror. Are they fucking under the sand? That the sand? Yeah, that's the fucking weirdest scene because like, uncomfortable. Yeah. Fucking. Never mind. They're buried in the sand. Never mind fucking on the beach. They're in the beach. They're in it. And you see heels start to ascend from the sand and then you realize that, oh shit, they're fucking comfortable. That's not gritty. Close either. I like shit gritty, Griffin. Not that gritty. Okay. So now, okay. So now they're back. They meet this fortune talent. She's like, it's been ordained. You would come and she's like, come closer. You will fight my son who's the second gun master. You'll get the first shot. You can draw it anytime. And again, fascinating surroundings here, like so cool. I don't know if it's just cause I'm a fucking nature nerd, but this, it was so fucking cool. So as she calls out to her son and he does, he's no fear of Topo, you slowly gets up from a nap. We saw this guy. Sorry, you'll have to wait another week to hear more about Castle Rat, but we saw this guy at the Castle Rat show. He's on in furs, giant fur hat and everything. I was sweating while seeing this guy out here and he's just relaxing. They got a whole fucking blanket, thousands of throw pillows just set up and he's fiddling around. They have a lion on a leash. They have a lion with like a little carnival wagon on a leash. And then they've got, he's got all these little like geometrical figures. He's made out of like match sticks, toothpicks, whichever one you want to choose. And he's just playing with them just like, these are held together with my saliva. The slightest wrong touch will break apart. That is power. And you're like, what the fuck is this guy talking about? He's like, do you want to shoot me, don't you? Let's get to it. Shoot whenever you desire and Topo goes for the gun and gets it shot right out of his hand. This guy is 10 light years beyond him. Boom. Technically you're dead. Like basically he holds out, he holds out his gun to him and instead of pulling the trigger, he goes, boom, you're dead. I'm now talking to a dead man. Yeah. Basically what he's saying is like, I own you. And he goes, he's like, then he goes this little pit he has with his like copper, like fucking cooking ware. Yeah. He's got an anvil set up and everything. And he starts to explain his journey to becoming a real tough guy. Right. Sorry. Is this a real tough guy? Yes, because he's creating art. He's responsible. He's a tough guy because he doesn't like like all the masters, he doesn't need to fight. He will fight if you challenge him, but he doesn't need to challenge people, which is what a tough guy is. Right. You don't need to prove yourself. And he's not, he's not ashamed of being like, this is my mom over here. I live with her. Very much like we have such a deep understanding of each other. And that is just fucking cool. So he's describing how he makes copper like cookware, which makes his hands strong. But it's not just strength grip. You need a delicate touch. So how does he do that? He makes those little geodesic kind of fucking shapes again, it's the journey of a man. What makes you a man? Oh, to become strong. So I built with copper and then I got fucking, I got these hands of steel. I can do anything with them. I could do this and do that. But then I realized that's not everything. And I started working with delicate things and being able to handle them. And he's taking, like I said, these giant geometrical figures held together with fucking, he did a white house fucking magic thing. And he's tossing it out. All these Lego things put together, like he's like, I didn't use the directions. He just put this together. Yeah. There's a wacky glue. There's no nothing holding this together. This is spit. My own imagination holding it together. Go ahead, take it from me. Just putting it into Topo's hands, it just breaks apart. And he laughs so hard, he's like, you think you're tough. You think you're a man. Just yelling at him. You are such a fucking pathetic human being. Like the person at Eastern market. Mom, I think she have Topo's gun, she like gives it to him. She might have walked it back. And she's like, take a shot at that one of those fucking geometric shapes. Yeah. And we got the line in the background and everything. And she holds a gun to his head because she's like, yeah, you're going to have to do this. You're going to have to prove. And so he takes a shot. There's two figures set up, the same figure, two of them. He shoots at one and just completely disintegrates. And then what do we call this guy? Second gun master. Second gun master. He didn't have a good name we could give him. Second gun man takes a shot at his figure, the tiniest little fragmentation. And again, this held it together by spit. And he just goes, you see delicate hands, the perfect, most precise shot. Look at the damage you did. Look at the damage I did. That's where he proceeds to start man-andling Topo. You shoot to find yourself. I shoot to vanish. What he's basically saying is, I'm confident, you do things in order to get praise from others. You don't believe in yourself, you need people to tell you you're a tough guy. That's why you act out all the time. I'm confident in who I am. I don't care if people think I'm tough. Right. That's why I'm tough. Right. He's basically explaining that to Topo, affection is to get lost, and to get lost, you have to love. And you do not love. You're chasing love. You're convinced you're love, but you have no idea what the fuck you're doing. Right. And he's like, you know, like the love I have for my mother, who's very important. Yeah, I love my mom. I can say it. Yeah. There's nothing wrong with that. Right. And then now we're set for the next duel. So we're we're back over by mom. She's got a whole fucking blanket set up. She's got the fucking table with the tarot cards spread out. She's got an eagle set up, which again, fucking Jodarowski probably fucking killed an eagle and spread its wings here. Goddamn Jodarowski. So they're setting up here and they're getting ready. She's like, you're going to have to have the last, you know, like another duel with him. It's going to happen. And he's like, okay, I understand. But he's got this little fucking copper. What size? It's like a. We can ash trail. Yeah. Let's go with the next. Yeah. I think he took it from second gun man. He basically gave it to him. Yeah. And so he's taking that and then he fumbles it to the ground. And while he's on the ground, Topo reaches into his sack where he's got those mirror shards. See, I didn't pick up on this. So yeah, it took his second watch is what I realized this is what happened. Okay. He's spreading the mirror shards on the ground and then he takes the gun, steps up with the ash trail and stuffs it in his breast pocket and steps back and mother comes walking towards him and steps on the shards of glass and shrieks out in pain. But the love second gun man has for his mother. He loses sight of everything because his mother who is now shrieking like a monkey. I thought it was a bird. It's not like birds, bird monkey. It's up to, you know, there's probably was definitely some kind of audio put in. Yeah. And so she's shrieking out second gun man goes to help her. And that's when you see in the flurry of everything happening, Topo now has has gone on the back of second gun man's head, reaching down, pulling second gun man's gun out and. Does he kill the second gun man? He shoots him like several times, yeah. So basically the lesson learned with the second gun man is it's not, it's, it's not a weakness to love because that's like, you're a bad ass. You're not supposed to love anybody or show, you know, you care about anybody. Yeah. I mean, if you want to be like, Topo one because you are Mr. Burns. Right now there's the Mr. Burns line, how do you become successful in life? You defeat the three evils, family, religion, and like community or something. And that is essentially what each of them is trying to tell them. Right. So basically it takes strength to the duel is about your ego. He's more concerned about the welfare of his mother. Topo sees that as a weakness. That's a strength. Exactly. Mr. Burns. Family is a weakness. Right. So Topo, you know, didn't learn that lesson. No, we did not. I mean, he's on a journey right now. We'll see where his journey ends up profits throughout the movies, by the way, guys. We already mentioned Genesis now we're on the profits. He does these stills in that same kind of like art style that he did, like the opening title credits. And now we're on to profits Mara and Foppo female Topo have a little fight over Topo. And they're just like on horses, like facing each other, and they both have whips now. And they just. This is foreshadowing, I believe, because Foppo basically handles Mara no problem. Whips the fuck out of her. Oh, yeah. Puts her in her place. Right. And that we learned that turns Mara on. Yeah. She's like, she likes tough guys or tough girls. Anybody who just handles her puts her quote unquote in her place. Right. And then, you know, she's whipped. She's she she submits. And then so Foppo shows her mercy and tends to her wounds and kisses her wounds. And again, why would she be because she's into it? Oh, Mara is into it. Why would she be it? It's that fucking like, yeah, Mara loves drama. That's what it is. Yeah, I mean, I guess that would be like the flipping way of saying it. But yeah, it's just it's I don't fear. I don't care. I'm not worried about offending Mara. Mars piece of shit. Oh, no, I'm not saying you're afraid you're worried about offended Mara. It's just like people understanding how people end up in abusive relationships, and there's like some kind of fucking weird thing that happens there where it's just like they're horrible to me. But then they're nice to me. And it's just like, I must have done something wrong. I wouldn't say that about Mara at all. I think Mars sick. She gets off on that. Yeah, you know what? Mara is just, yeah, okay. So we ride because we got the third grand gun master defined. And now it's they're occurring more like we're not wandering through the desert. We're just kind of happening on them. And so they start to arrive. Topo jumps off his horse and just starts walking up on. She's a crow pecking at a rabbit. Yeah. I think he shoots the crow. Doesn't he? Yeah, that was later. And he sees another rabbit. It's alive. It's like tethered down, so he grabs it. And then he stumbles upon a bunny ranch. No, not the one in Las Vegas where you can pay that sex with women. A real live bunny ranch. So he finds a tiny little like ankle high gate wooden state gate, you know. Yeah, the rabbit's searing a big fucking closure. Giant like hockey arena size, fucking, you know, arena here, little bunny gate here. And so he tosses his gun in and walks in. And I got, I think I got this wrong on my notes because he walks in with his hands up. Like I'm here as an innocent, you know, I'm not here to fuck around. And the guy that we're about to meet here pulls his gun down. And I think it was supposed to be topo saying, I don't just trust you. Did you understand this? No, because I think I missed this. It's kind of hazy for me. Yeah, I think what happens is because I thought topo was saying, I don't distrust you. But it doesn't make sense because he doesn't have a gun. The bunny ranch man, he pulled his gun out and topo said, you don't need a player gun. I don't distrust you. So then we sit down under his little hut and we're going to have a conversation. About music. And he's like, let's jam. Yeah, don't, don't tell me. Use your music to tell me. So topo's got that little flute starts rocking it. Fucking bunny pulls out. I don't know what that instrument is. It's kind of like a sitar, but it's tiny and they're rocking out. They're jamming to play in their favorite day Matthew songs. And topo, I think it's funny. He just explained. He's like, you're here. You no longer fear death. You don't know what you want of this life anymore. You're searching your lost soul, you're harmless. You need to know. And he just puts his instrument down and he's like, so what do we get to talk about? He went full, Cody Rhodes, what are we going to talk about? He and he pulls out his gun the most because he calls him out for all of his tricks because he's played two tricks now. Oh, it's right. Yeah, he calls him out of his tricks and he's like, you don't want to fucking do this anymore. Right. And he pulls out his gun, Bunnyman does, and as they're walking, the rabbits are dying in the presence of el topo. Yeah. And he explains, like, yeah, here's the thing. You're pretty much death incarnate. Like since you've been seven yards away from my bunny ranch, they've just been dying. And now that you're here, they're all going to be dead. And then we get a shot of a bunny actually like dying. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't understand that. I was like, how do they can't just be a bunny dying. That'd be a weird fucking thing. I don't know. I don't like this. But they're admiring each other's guns and bunny man's like, this gun here is the perfect weapon. I built it by hand. One bullet is all you need. That's all I need. And they shoot at some birds, topo hits, he then he shoots the head off the bird. They're picking at the rabbit corpses. Oh yeah. And so they each take a shot at a, it was like a crow or a raven or whatever. And so, um, bunny man hits his in the heart and topo hits his in the head. And so bunny man goes and picks up both the board bird corpses and is just waving them around and like, you hit yours in the head. I hit mine in the heart. You've got it backwards. And he's like flipping the birds be not really flipping literally flipping the bird, literally flipping his birds and his hands between the heart and the head. What do you think that means? The heart and the head. Topo over thinks everything over over emotional or he's over critical. I know. I think it's the opposite grip. I think he's not emotional at all. Not. And this is all about, cause that's the, the dilemma of the fake tough guy. I can have feelings. Yeah. Like you need to have feelings. He's not, he's not going with what his heart tells him right. He's going with what society tells him is right. And this is what a tough guy is. Time for your duel. They walk to where there's a, there's a pool in the middle of the ranch. They're both on each side of it and they're ready to kill. So this is where we actually get to see like a true quote unquote Western draw. So as we see Topo flinches for his gun and Bunny man already has a beat and shot right in the heart, right in the heart and shot to the heart to blame. You give love a bad name and Topo based on what we've seen with Mara and he don't get pulled up. You too. For saying that and he'll terrible lover, not in that way. Just he can't show love to people. Right. I think that's, yeah, that's what Bunny man is trying to tell him is that it's, the show love is true to be vulnerable emotionally is true toughness instead of being a, I'm tough. I don't feel anything. All the gunmen that we meet are incredibly vulnerable and open. So yeah, I believe that is the big message here. But Topo gets up, he got shot in the heart graph. Yeah. He just starts laughing and he gets his gun out and he aiming for the head and then he realizes you taught me and it's like, wait, did you learn the lesson at all? I don't know. I think he was mocking him by shooting him in the heart. I agree. Yeah. That's what I'm trying to say here because that he, he hasn't dead to right. Bunny man. So he only had, he had, he only had one Bullock's yet. He said, I'm the perfect shot. I only need one shot. And these are people who have accepted life. They've accepted debt. If you only, you guys were a fly on the wall when me and Murray were talking about death for 45 minutes before we started recording, um, he's already accepted. He, he is not afraid of this, you know, this being this life at all that. So he's just there. He's just accepting it, gets the gun to his head and he's like, whatever, gets the gun at his heart, whatever, gets shot, falls into his little circular pool in the middle of his bunny pan and just the red orangy die just spreads throughout. And then we see Topo go into his shirt and he pulls out that copper ashtray. He took from the second gun master that blocked the bullet that was over his heart. Too much perfection is a mistake. So do you think that means he's finally learning lessons or is he giving the third grandmaster a lesson of his own because this was like the most, the least devious of tricks. Cause all he did, like he didn't have to really fuck with the bunny man. He just knew what the bunny man's calling card was and armed himself. He didn't echo the bunny. He didn't. Yeah. There we go. He, he didn't exactly drop him into a sand pit. He didn't fucking make his mom fucking step on glass. Like he just had like a little thing tucked and he had an ace up his sleeve. That's it. Like it was. It is saying that meaning it's, it's, I say he's learning because that is true. Too much perfection is a mistake. You're never going to attain perfection. Yeah. Like you need to accept. So it's almost like we're saying like even this fucking figure who's got it kind of figured out was a little too high in his own supply. Could be. Cause I was his undoing that was his undoing. And again, Topo was not the most devious he's been like he was kind of playing it by the book. Like again, he didn't overtly fuck about it. I think he's learning because he finally starts showing respect to these guys because he does bury bunny man. Well, no, he showed respect even to blind man and a master blaster. Oh, yeah. That's true. Cause like the whole time he's been like offing these people, he's been like, I think we're trying to what they're trying to say is Mara is hopeless, but there is something he can contain enlightenment. Right. He's just fighting against it. Right. He is lost trying to figure it out. Mara on the other hand is chaotic evil. Yeah. That is where I see this cause he is feeling every fucking step of the way. She is just like, I've almost got power. Right. That's all she cares about. It's all she cares about. He's doing it, but he is not feeling like I've done something. He is just like, I might be closer to an answer, which as we know, when you search for answers, you just end up with more questions. So he's got to bury the bunny man, and you know, usually when you, you know, you do a carn over something like the ground is too hard to dig. So you pile rocks onto somebody. Yep. He does the next best thing. He piles bunnies until he was the bunny man after all. So he goes back tomorrow after, you know, burying, burying quotes, uh, him and bunnies. He goes back tomorrow. He's just covered in blood and she is just like, feel me up and he's just slathering your chest with blood and she's loving it. She's like, let me get some of that dick right now. And he's just like, you know, I'm not into this. Does he want to offer something? Yeah. I think he's finally starting to get it like killing isn't the way. And so she starts yelling at him because she's like, no, you can't do a bitch. I've, I've helped you ascend to this level. You need me, you can't run without me cause he's trying to get on the horse and fucking take off. And uh, there again, Bobo and Mara and him are like in the desert and Bobo pulls out. So they do, they do an abrupt cut everybody. So it's like he's running away from her. It's trying to say more than it's trying to like connect a narrative. So we just cut to the three of them with three pieces of fruit. Right. What kind of fruit was it? It's some kind of cactus thing. She cut, uh, fopo cuts it open. This is very, this was supposed to be a pussy base. Yeah. Yeah. And it rhymed me of the, uh, in excess video, the one thing where a girl has, and it was supposed to be a pussy too. So I think it was, she hit a passion fruit. I think it was. It's the one that has a ton of seeds in it. I put it. She opens it up and it's like, you know, that's how we could get away with the 1980s. But the same thing. She's like going down on this, like showing her fucking oral skills tomorrow. She does like a slit so she can penetrate it with her finger. And then she opens it up a little further and starts licking at it. And then the hands it over to Mara and then gives her like the fucking finger flick that we've seen all so long ago in the early, early, early days of Golden Globes Theater. First, second episode, um, and Mara is just like, you fucking slut. She cannot stand this bitch because she can't have another woman near Topo distracting him. She's got to ride this man to the top. Right. And so Mara stands up ready to fight. You aren't ready. So I'm taking over. I got it. And Fobo just takes her like throws an arm over her shoulder, pulls her in, puts a dagger in her hand. And Mara is just like, she was just like, what the fuck, you just gave me a weapon? What am I supposed to do with this? Maybe what Fobo is trying to tell her is, you don't have to live through a man, like be your own badass, the handringer or the dagger. I mean, it could be, she could be trying to love all the scales of femininity here to just be like, you can, you can be your own fucking badass woman. Like, look at me. What's my name? You don't fucking know. Where did I come from? What fucking? No. Like, I'm living in this fucking man's world as a fucking woman, living it like I want to. I'm not succumbing to some colonel. I'm not fucking licking boots. I'm not putting boots on. I'm not fucking taking dick at all unless I want it. Just do whatever she wants. Maybe that is the message of Fobo. I think you might be right about that. All right. The last gunfighter. They make out, by the way. Yeah, they do. Fobo pulls Mara's hair back and just puts her tongue down Mara's mouth. So she's even just like, you're my sex object. That was the point I wanted to get across there. Last gunfighter. He's an old man wearing a diaper and he's like, I just under like an awning in the, out in the desert and Topo's like, all right, let's do this. What are you doing gunfighter? I don't even have a gun who, wait, and he digs underneath him and he produces a rusted out fucking revolver and he's like, what do you want with me? I traded my gun for a butterfly next, even though he has the guns though. So I guess he just got a net, you know, he's the crafty tradesman. So yes. So basically, what I read it as is he's reached total enlightenment that he doesn't need a weapon anymore. Like we were just saying earlier, because he challenged him to a fistfight. We were saying it man, oh, a man, oh, and don't need to kill somebody. Okay. Like this is making even more potent for me because I didn't even think about this aspect. I didn't think about the Eastern market. The whole fucking thing in perspective here, this sort of old fucking man, male nourished. And then you got Topo, who's like, I mean, Joe D'Roskey technically at this time was like 41. I looked it up, but still he is like doing well, he's looking out there and then he just got this old fucking man fucking rat skulls tied into his tethered little, like not tethered rat skulls. Was he doing a full rip-torn from beast masters or a rip-torn? He's just fucking completely emaciated. He's just not a man anymore. And he's like, I'm chatting to you, you beastie guff. This is it. He's like, I don't, I don't need to prove myself anymore. Like I'll fight you and fist the cuss will solve this. And Topo goes, he takes the bait and throws a punch and he just matrix it. This starts a vade. He's roped open fucking Topo. Right, because Topo, he's not like, I can just win this by consistency. He's like, I need a fucking pummel this man. And he can't. He can't even touch him. And he gets frustrated and he grabs his gun and he shoots at him, but the last gunfighter has his net and he catches the bullet in his net and throws it back at El Toe. The next one you aim at me will reflect into your heart gunfighter. What would you like? I cannot lose before I have nothing. He's given, that's a very, like Buddhist kind of way of looking at the world. Yeah. Give up all your worldly possessions. If you, if you, if I don't have anything, you can't take anything from me. Exactly. And that's where this conversation is going because Topo just collapses. He's like, well, if I don't beat you, what do I get? What? And he's like, you just need to understand gunfighter. I've got nothing. Well, I could have taken your life. My life needs nothing to me. If you took my life, I, nothing matters. Nothing changes. And he, in fact, he takes the gun from Topo and shoots himself in the fucking, in the car spot and he looks at Topo and goes, you just lost. Right. And that crushes him because he was like, I needed this last. I needed, it's like Pokemon, I needed them all, collect them all. Well, he's gone through three gunmen. Right. And he has not felt any better about his situation, his life, Mara, anything. Well, he felt like if he killed him, he killed all four, he'd be a man, he would be the ultimate gunfighter. Right. And now that's been taken away from him because of the last one killed himself. So he's like, he killed himself. He has got no answers along the way and he's getting no answers now. But he's like, basically, I failed. Yeah. I, this was going to, this was going to make me. Right. This was going to be it. I was going to get the girl. She's going to love me. Now what? Yeah. This is, I got, I got this position in this office and everything's going to change for me. But nothing changes. You just have to do that. So he basically has an existential crisis. He runs back to the bunny ranch. It's on everything's on the car and he made his, a bunnies is fire. It's on. Yeah. It's on fire. Another fucking amazing shot, by the way, it's so cool. He runs, he continues to run and rewind here. So he goes from bunny man to mother and son who are under like a pile of the geometrical figures. He's just fucking, by the way, the people who had to put that together, because there's so many of them in those shots, they had to take up so much time. I'm wondering if Jodorowsky's son had a fucking do that. Yeah. She's not in the movie anymore. Yeah. Um, but he's just bashing through them. They're buried under a mound of them, which, how did that happen? You know, it was just how they were maybe he did it. Maybe he did it. He didn't see it. And then we're going, of course, back to blind man. And we see that because Mara is set at one point during the journey. We've been traveling for, I don't know, days, months, years, because now the blind man, he's still in flesh. But Master Blaster, did you notice, was skeleton. No. And did you notice that they are also on, well, apparently he didn't, they are under the branch that he used to turn the water from bitter water to sweet water. Speaking of sweet water, sweetness, the blind man's covered in honeycombs and Topo grabs them and just smashing them on his face. And my God, if you've ever had a beard, you know how horrible is to get anything in it. Yeah. Yeah. Smash. Which honey does not come out, by the way, explains what happens later on. Yeah. Yeah. And then he runs up to the silo, the blind man lived in. We see that sheep that had been on the top is now crucified, skinned and crucified against the tower. Yeah. He destroys the tower. He's in the tower. The Kool-Aid man's the fucking tower. He's slamming against the walls because again, he has come, he has achieved his goal and he's more lost. No, he hasn't achieved his goal at all. He's been stolen from him because the last gunfighter took it from him. I didn't see it that way. I do. You can. I saw it as just he achieved the goal he was set out to, which he'd even set for himself. Mara put it into his head. You need to go kill his four gunmen. And he went along with it. And he has now completed those four goals and he is no closer to understanding any single fucking semblance of a thing about himself. And so he's bashed. Yeah, I disagree. I think the, I don't think finding himself had nothing to do with this. It was all about getting her love being being the ultimate tough guy. Well, what happens when he returns to her? Do you even remember that part? No, because he does return to her and she's just like, you did it. You're the fucking best now. This is amazing. And he just continues about his way. He doesn't stop the thing about, oh yeah, let's bask in this glory. We're together now. He moved right on to his, I know I look it as she finds out he failed the last test and she's done with him and she moves on to Fopo. Yeah. Because that's what she does. She did it with the colonel. She out. He has quote unquote failed her. Yeah. And now it's like, who's next see, you're, you're, you're, you're thinking a little further ahead where we get more of them interacting because he breaks down. He doesn't even bask in a moment of like, now I have won her love. He completely, he jumped straight from blind man. Well, we're going to have to disagree. I think he thinks he's failed. I think you think he thinks he's, he's won and he hasn't gotten anything with that win. I think he thinks he's, he got cheated out of winning by that guy killing himself. Yeah. Yeah. You think we're going to have to disagree on that. Yeah. That's what I believe. Oh, yeah. No, of course. But no, I don't think he feels like he failed or won. I think he realized this was completely fucking fruitless. He had no idea what he was doing. He just went along with things. So that's why I stand on this. He was lost. He just kept going because this was just in front of the eye. Like I said, to me, the theme of the movie is the dilemma of the fake tough guy. He thought I'm finally going to be the tough guy. I'm not the tough guy. He's finally realizing that it's sinking in. I'm never going to be the tough guy until he becomes the tough guy, but we're getting ahead of ourselves. So we might even have to divide this into like a fucking because we might have a movie to go. We might have to divide this. I don't know. I think the second half goes pretty fast. I mean, there is some social commentary, but I don't know. It is a front loaded movie and I feel like he shot this in two different segments. Like, I want to make sure this 90 minutes is right and then we're going to finish it with. So Topo, after he's done, we talked about it. He goes into this tower. You got, you get the exterior shot of the fucking lamb or goat or what it was. It was a sheep spread out that yeah, he breaks down the walls as the wall like after the crumb walls have crumbled, he's like releasing birds into the air and then basically he's despondent. Yeah. And then we cut over to like this new, it almost looks like a Hollywood backlot with this long wooden bridge in the back row. He's the Indiana Jones bridge. He was. There we go. And he's walking across it. And he doesn't give a fuck. He doesn't give a shit if he lives or dies at this point. He smashes is gone. Yeah. He's done with all this. Tesco bullshit, Macho bullshit is what I said, masculinity, Macho, there we go. So yeah, he's just like, it didn't, it brought me nothing. I thought I was going to be the ultimate badass. I guess I'm coming around to you, but yeah, he's just like, he walks out. He's having great to kill himself. Yeah. Marro's congratulating him. I'm winning and everything. And he's just despondent like he is not relating to her at all. He's like, I thought all I wanted. He's finally on the way to enlightenment. Yeah. She's back where he used to be. Yeah. Because she will never learn. Yeah. He's at the end of the spiral. She's the fucking follower on that fucking smog spiral trail. And he's just walking down that wooden bridge because he's just like, I don't need this anymore. He's all tattered. His old sweet El Topo outfit. He doesn't even have gloves anymore. No. So I'll tattered up and everything walking down that wooden bridge, climbs up on it and he's getting ready to jump and he's just, God, why have you fucking forsaken me? Which is what Jesus said on the cross. Of course. And yeah, about what we're about to get into. So he's ready to end it all. And then Faupo shows up and she's ready to make her move. She's going to take Marro from him. She's going to be the ultimate tough girl. Yeah. Because what was like, I didn't even think about this until the second watch through. It's like, yeah, she was just like, yeah, I'll let you become the big fish. And then I'll fucking take you out. And so she shoots him in the hand and then the other hand. And what is he doing? Arms out. Jesus style. Everything he's learned from these people, just let the boys pass through you. What is life? What is death? And then she shoots his feet. It's stigmata. She's shooting in all the places, the coins, wounds of Christ. And then the final shot, the Christ killer right in the fucking ribs. Who delivers it though? Because he posts himself up and there we are standing with Faupo and Marro. And then we go back to the opening scene with the guy begging for death. And Marro is there with Faupo and Faupo is El Topo. And she looks over to Marro and goes, do it. No, she's either him or me. It's either him or me. Is him a choice. And like we said, Marro never learns. She's stuck in her fucking vicious circle. So she chooses the bad ass, the new bad ass Faupo. She wants to chase because she was like ready to cling on to Topo. And he was just like, I'm fucking lost. This journey was supposed to be the conclusion. I'm in a new spiral now. I don't know what the fuck is going on. She wants to go to somebody who's confident. And what does Faupo just exude? Confidence and cool. Like El Topo at the beginning of the movie. And she shoots Topo with the Christ killer. And they ride off. Alright. Second half of the movie. This is I think years later, seven years I think later. We see some lepers pull up cart. You know, they got like a whole fucking a little head of myself. Yes. Yeah. Group of like the unwashed masses, they grab Topo and drag him away. And he's pleased for God to teach me. I'm right. He's ready to learn. Now. Yep. Cut to a cave. You see a little midget taking care of what she is. She is. Again. Sorry. She's not giving a name. I say midget every once in a while. She has no name. It's not much better at my version of that's why I just called her girl. With the capital G. He is sitting. Christmas applesauce. His hair. Do you turn him into a religious figure? Do you. Is this hair blonde or is it white? Like it got it got white from this like the shock of all he's been through. Oh, I don't I didn't really think about why it was white. But I said it was white. I thought white. Okay. Again. Black and white. His beard is white. His hair is white. It's fucking frizzed out. His clothes. He's got like he needs some conditioner big time. He's just got like a fucking you know one piece on right now. He's basically in a minute meditative state. Yeah. Chris Claus applesauce. And so he's been there for years. Yeah. And she comes up to him. Puts makeup on him. Puts makeup on him. Think about the our banditos in their monks. No. Think about this. Oh. Basically washed himself away of toxic masculinity. Yeah. He has no problem with her putting makeup. That's true. He's not offended by it. Right. Just like our monks weren't offended earlier or what yeah I think you call the monks earlier. They were getting my makeup put on them. They were getting fucking beat in the ass by cacti and they were not offended by it. They did not react to it. And like you said he took a vow of pacifism, pacifism. So he's finally reached enlightenment. It's taken years of meditative thought he like you said he's an idol to this woman and these people who live in this cave. So she worships him. Right. She takes him down and he's like you must have kept me here for years. It must have had a heart. When she kisses like much like sleeping beauty she kisses him away. It wakes him up. Yeah. And yeah it must have been so hard for you to bring me here and keep me here and all this. Yeah you've been here for so long it takes him down to like where the community is and she's like yeah the only way out is that whole way up there which turns into a tunnel that is actually you know like level with the ground you don't crawl out of it you crawl. You see children sleeping in barrels. Yes. All kinds of weird leper shit happening in here. And what do you and you know if you're just stuck in a cave the only people you got to fuck or other drugs. Yeah. Maybe this is the person the trucks can bone hot domonk. That might be. Yeah. Oh my god. Oh my god. All of our movies are always connected so it makes sense. She tells them outside there is a town of normal people. They forced us in here. This is our prison. And we had no choice. We're all fucked up because we got to fuck each other. Right. If you really want the fucking whole lesson there's an old woman who wants to see you in a like 60s knit fucking smock here. Macrame. Macrame. And so as you do when you meet an old lady you share a meal with them. Bugs. Scarabs. Yep. I was waiting for Gente to show up. Yep. I was too. Did not show up. Or at least fucking rip porn. Argh. And then we get a scene. It's a rebirth scene. They suck on some ass. They have a trip. Yeah. Bug ass. Bug ass. Yeah. No grape jelly here. No ass. No salads were tossed. So some animals were hurt but no salads were tossed. Well these bugs were dead. And he is, this is where he's finally reborn as the new Topo. Right. And he, you know, he's rejected all of the violence. He's, you know, he's reached enlightenment. They show him a reflection of himself and he goes, this is not me because he was Jason Manzougas before. He's like, I'm not Jason Manzougas. So now we have a scene overhead shot. He is on his knees leaning backwards and great. He's got very lumber spine because he's bent full backwards and he's got a girl midget as you call her. That's eye color. Yeah. And well you love that word. So it just flows off your tongue like I've never seen you so at ease. Like that is your holy mountain. You're really comfortable using that word. Aren't you? Yeah. It's really like I grew up with the word retarded. It just, I've never meant it to be a slight on like a disabled person or anything. It's safer the pure evil of the world like Donald Trump. Like that little people is a shady fan retarded. Come up with a word that's less syllables and little people. And I'll say, I imagine the two syllables. You come up with a two-syllable word for what you are. I'll use that. Yeah. Little bit. I don't, I want to speak less. What are you? I know you're shocked listening to this episode that I want to speak less than more because we've been talking for two fucking hours. Yeah. Over. Yeah. Close the story. What if it ended up being like a fucking Australian because I know you love their wishy washy language? Yeah. What if, what if the next appropriate word for a little person was like Blippi? I call him Blippi's. You were called Blippi's. You'd be like, oh he's a little blip. Sure. Sounds fun. Okay. I think that's a, I think that's a child, children show host Blippi. Okay. But anyways, he is a, this is not my face, getting his whole hair trimmed, which, by the way, if you've ever had a trim of beard and everything, this is a fucking arduous process. It's awful. Because you've got to cut it back, then shave it down, then shave it down, then shave it down. It's horrible. That's why I don't have those hillbilly beards. Yeah. So, yes, he is shorn of all his hair, even his eyebrows. He has been reborn as the new Topo, the Nopo, if you will. Nopo. I like this. That's the Nopo touch. And so he's ready to help. He's ready to contribute to the world. Instead of taking life, he's going to give life. And he's like, I'm going to get you guys out of here. Just because you're fucking deformed incest, baby, it doesn't mean you shouldn't be treated like regular people. And we get a little bit, you know, a girl tells us a little bit like, yeah, there's this town outside, but they fucking, they keep us here in this cave, this hole. Where's trapped here? They will not allow us. And he's like, no, I'm going to go. I'm going to escape with you. We're going to go to this town and we're going to fucking like make this shit cool. We're going to earn a lot of money. We're going to tunnel everybody out and we're going to connect the two worlds because freaks need to live with freaks. I mean, we are normal people. That's what the town is supposed to be. Well, what we learned is. Normal people. Yeah. The norm is for the true freaks. Exactly. That's why we get in some really well trodden, like this is why I was kind of bored with this segment on the movie because 54 years later, it's like, yeah, I get it. The conservatives are the true freaks. They're hypocrites. You know, but I understand in 1970, this was kind of, it was one of the, it was a good thing to hold the mirror to society and that's kind of like, cowboys are actually kind of fucking. Yeah. No, I agree. I agree. I agree with this, but at the same time, I like the artistic flair he adds to it. So he, him and the Blippi escape, you like him using your word? I appreciate it. It's better than you just throwing out the heart, the heart and I swear that was fucking a medical term at one time. And now all of a sudden, it's like the worst fucking slur you could ever imagine. It's funny to go back and listen to like true art, like medical tape. And it's just like, yeah, there's magic over here. So yeah, go on, please. So him and Blippi head out, they escape the cave and then go down to the town. And this is where we get to see this town of real Americans, real people, normal people. What do they do? Well, they have human rodeos. That's right. And they had, and noticed all the people they were chasing were of a particular color. That's right. And they had a weight of others, you could say. Yeah. Yeah. POC patients, if you will, I don't know. And they're like, literally it's a human rodeo. They're fucking doing like the hog tying them and shit. We're seeing a whole lot of fascistic looking symbolism. Yeah. It's a false idol, basically. It's a false idol. It's the Masonic symbol. Yeah. Yeah. And the Illuminati. Yeah. The whole pyramid with an eye, well, triangle with an eye. And it's our three dimensional triangle. Which are, of course, on our money, even though we're a Christian, Gondry. That's right. And they're fucking, they're treating these people like literally cattle. They're branding them with that symbol. Right. And what's their audience? Rich old women. Right. The Karens of the world. The Karens of, I thought they were like, I was like, again, this is why the second watch there was really interesting for me because it's like, we see two young women throughout this movie. Yeah. Mara and Fobo. And Blippi. Oh, yeah. Blippi. I'm so sorry. Blippi. Oh, I got to exist. I got. Yeah. You see, who's the real monster here? Murray. Murray's been just fucking trying to preach this for the longest time. Groove's the real monster, everybody. I forgot to recognize. He calls a midget. Two and a half women. Yeah. I just don't even recognize her at all as a human existing in my world. So, while the cats are away, the women, the mice will play. The men are sneaking whores into their little saloon because they're hypocrites, you know. They're the guys. If you have a channel that a web lock, you're a whore. And meanwhile, they're fucking doing this shit. Wait, again, we talked, Murray, I don't know if we meant to do this. What is it go back to? 19 days ago, when we started this episode, when we were talking about Mark Robinson and his propaganda. Yeah. You guys are all fucking monsters, Frankenstein's, you need to be fucking buried and burned alive. You don't watch a chick with a dick. I don't just want to look at a chick with a dick. I want to watch a fuck. I want to suck her dick. Hitler had some good points. Hitler had good points. Like, what the fuck are we doing? So these guys, they're like, oh, yeah, wait, it's like never ends. It's always the people put themselves up on the pedestal, the moral, you know, majority, whatever. They're the biggest fucking freaks at all. This thing I keep hearing is Republicans could never live amongst Republicans, whereas liberals could always live amongst liberals, because Republicans need something to be angry about. And liberals are just like, you know, well, the more you make something forbidden, the more you want it. Yeah. You make it normal. It's like, then it's like, it's normal. Exactly. Which is one of the, one of the lessons that my, my gay friend told me, he would just like talk about his sexual, you know, adventures and I was like, I don't even talk about that usually with, you know, female and male, I was like, Ryan, why are you telling me all this shit? He's just like, oh, I just try to normalize it. I'm like, oh, I don't have anything to really say about this. And he's like, yeah, I know, because you're not gay and you don't have gay sex, but I'm going to tell you about it. It's like, okay. So we're living in hypocrite town, hypocriteville, population 53. Their fun is interrupted when some peasants are rounded up in the town center. Or are these the slaves, right? Are these? I didn't know what to call them. They were slaves. Yeah. At first I was like, peasants are these slaves. They're all being rounded up. This is where they jump on their, it's like a bull rush is the kind of feel you got because you have the townsfolk on either side, you have the people with the fucking whips and everything, the blind just years behind them. And the slaves go running out because it was four or five of them. And they take refuge. Maybe they escaped. No, no, no, it was completely like a bull rush. They were the bulls and they had the fuck. Oh, it was like the Pamplona, the running of the bulls. It was kind of like that, but it was backwards, where the bulls were actually the blind just years. And when I say that, I mean this, like they are supposed to be like deputized people, but they had orange hankies across their eyes. Did you notice that? I vaguely remember that. Yes. They all had orange bandanas covering their eyes. And these were like the muscle aside from the Marshall and his little fucking who I thought at first were women and drag because he had such baby faces, but then he seemed shirtless and their guys. Yeah, I thought the same thing, but I also thought of Mad Max later when the guy had the bandolier, but he had like 18 guns in the bandolier. I was like, that is such a Mad Max little effect. I loved it. But anyways, they find it's one of the cards that the, you know, the horse and buggy would be carrying it or whatever and all the slaves take refuge on there and Marshall and his little assistant come by his chicory. This is chicory. Yeah. His chicory. So you got a guy with like a fake looking beard, right? They look like women are men and drag and they shush him off the fucking little carriage and make them lay down and this is a big thing on the movie, just shooting people in the back and telling people love it. They just so much they have a parade. So top was like, fuck, we got to make some money. How are we going to do that? Street performing. Right. He had been saying this. I'm going to go to downtown. I'm going to make so much fucking money and I'm going to do it any way possible. I'll shit in my own mouth out. I'm going to be the original YouTube star. I'll do anything. Right. No, that's not that. It's not what it is. He's did a horrible job. He's finally humbled himself. Yeah. And he's like, nothing shames me. If I'm, I can, I will do whatever it takes, even if it makes me look like a piece of shit to help these people. I did a terrible job because when we think about a YouTube star, we think about it in a narcissistic, narcissistic way. Yeah. He's doing it. You think about like our YouTube. Yeah. We do it for the people. Yeah. He's willing to humiliate himself, but he's doing it for the most humble reason. He's like trying to like actually link these, these, trying to get these fucking people out of a cave. Yes. These two groups together. He's trying to help people coexist. And so they come up with a great act. They do the kissing gag because she's, you know, she's a blippy. So she just like, she goes to kiss them and she's fucking crotch high again. I talked about letters playing a big role in this movie. He's got a little ladder that he brings with them, a little four foot ladder. And it's just, it's not an A fold like we're used to. It is just something you lean against something to step up. And so their gag includes him revealing his heart shorts. Right. He likes to do that. The kids love it. Yeah. They were running around for a while there. And just to face Jodorowsky was making here. He was so into this, like he was so great as a badass El Topo, fake top guy. And he's so great as the fool. Like he did such a fucking good job. And the people are eating an up-graft, they love it. Hugging over Blippi. And then finally he realizes, let me put the ladder against me. And then they can hug and then they can kiss. But then everyone's like, that's a Blippi. The fuck are you doing? These don't fuck Blippi's, this is disgusting. And they throw, because we love a train wreck. This is what Cronenberg's always trying to throw in our face. We love a train wreck. And this is what these people see it as. But they still give them the money? Oh yeah. It's a huge hit. Oh yeah. And then we cut to, because we got to see how grotesque this town is. And this is where we get into- Is this something John Waters is saying? This is a John Waters meets P. Did he see? Oh my God. By the way, no affiliation. We saw the background shots of his lube room. Yeah. The thousand, no Paccelli was ever used in a freak off ever. No. And we're not even associated with it. It could be. It's actually probably the best luber can't, because Paccelli, much like WD-40, is many uses. Yes. But- As we know, no Paccelli on site in a flat. They have no colligular, let alone Paccelli. But yeah, P. Did he is one of these faux motherfuckers. He doesn't recognize the OG. He's one of these McDonald's motherfuckers who just buys over the counter bullshit. He doesn't go to the artisanal, Paccelli's, colligular is not artisanal. It's a fact. It is a fact. It works. It's a fact and a fact. It's a fact. It's just the only thing I keep next to my drawer in case there's those kind of activities happening, Marty. You never know what a fisting might break out. You never know what a good fisting might break out. Always consent, people, always. So we're at the beauty parlor of the rich old ladies. It's golden girls, basically. We get- Oh, yeah. One of the women has a man's voice for some reason. Oh, yeah. A lot of them had kind of manlier voices. And again, I don't mean to bring Pea Diddy up, but they got a little black slave, man, with a beard being completely emasculated. And as we know- These are servant. This is what Pea Diddy was all about, embarrassing, just making a mockery of these minds. Right. So it's a Pea Diddy sex thing. And this is a lot of, basically, I would say, it looks like the word I'm looking for. But it's basically life under Jim Crow for black people, or slavery for that matter. But it's like the women fetishize this guy. Yes. But at the same time, they want to fuck him, but I can't, he's a slave. I wouldn't fuck him. So they have to contrive these ways to get him to do things to them. Exactly. And they've got to do it by being like, "I need cream on me." And you notice they didn't use cream, they used grape jelly. So we're getting into some fucking like- Toss salad territory, fucking Fraser calmed down over here, scrambled eggs, motherfucker. But- And this guy is terrified, too, because he can be killed at any minute, and this is like the life of being a black man during the fucking Jim Crow era, where this has happened. Where white woman will just say, "He raped me." And I can't, I mean- You can't even think about that, dude. That should happen. Yes. Like, you imagine being that person, like, "I want to get this person killed." Right? This is- Because I have the power to do it, and I'm going to do it. How sick of a fucking person you would be. This is what is so utterly fucking frustrating about today, because I just said, "I was telling you about that Matt Walsh, motherfucker, because when you came over, and we were like, "We can't go see fucking Castle Rat." We'll get into the next- Yeah. Well, maybe- Do you want to see this awful fucking conservative movie? That guy. He's out there just being like, "Racism doesn't exist. What are you fucking talking about?" And they don't identify this type of thing as racism. This is complete fucking racism. Like, the only way some people see racism is like, "No, it's only when you strike a person of color different from yours in the face with hatred." And the only way to know that it's racism, if they say, "This is racism at the time of the act." Like, "I don't know." They want to set the bar so high. Like, yeah. I don't know. So basically, what the women are doing is like, the woman drops her comb. Can you pick that up for me? It's like, between her legs. Yeah. And the guy literally just- By the way, this guy has been applying great jelly to a woman's butt. The other woman was like, "Fucking put these- I don't even want to say it. He's on these on me. Yup. Go ahead. I'm on the rag this month, so go ahead and insert that for me." Like, he's doing all these things that he is just gritting his teeth for it because he- There's no choice. No choice. No choice. And so, next, we're thinking, "Oh, he's just picking up this comb, but he's in between this woman's legs." And she just spreads- she goes full fucking man spreading here. And she's- Maybe that's why she had the manly voice. That might be why. Yeah. And then she's like, "Oh my God, he's looking between my legs." Women! Five women all observing this because they all want his attention. They all want- again, this is why interracial pornography is taboo in America. That's a category because people see a black man with a white woman. And women get paid more to fuck a black man. Really? Yeah. I don't think that it's so much now. I think it's kind of getting normalized. Thank you. But when it was, like you said, it was a fetish. Yes. That's why, you know, women with someone would do it because- because the idea was if you get fucked by a black man on screen, you're tainted. Right. And then your white followers won't want to see your movies. We've talked about it in our fucking movies. Commando with- what's her name? Dave Chong or something? Ray Donchon. Ray Donchon. She could not have a romance scene with Arnold Schwarzenegger because the studio said we can't have a person of color. And now everybody, commercials is an interracial relationship. We've come so far. Thank you. Exactly. It's like dumb shit like that. So yeah, so they pounce on this guy, this poor man, and they- he inserts literally lion noises because he like- Feasting on him. Yeah. Or was it pig noises? I thought it was- No, it was lion. Yeah. And yeah, they're feasting upon his flesh. All right. So we get a cut outside now and they are chasing him out of their little fucking- Right. And then they're like, I was raped. Rape. Rape. Oh my god. Rape. And so of course he- like the town comes in, surrounds like a Twilight Zone episode. Interrupting a performance by Topo. Drawing the audience away from him. Yeah. Yeah. And- Yeah. Sorry. And the guy's basically lynched. He's drunk- he's strung up by his feet and shot by the sheriff. The way he did this too was fantastic. I loved it because he makes it very slow. And we've got- So our head marshal is the guy with the fake looking strap-on beard. And then he's got the twinkly little like dark-haired dude in like, green or whatever. And so he puts an arm out and the guy pulls his gun and puts it over. And then it's looking like the guy in the green is gonna pull the trigger because he's holding the gun, but he's only holding the handle of the guy. And then the marshal puts his finger in. It was such like a crisscross like we're all in this together kind of thing. They're very ritualistic. It was so weird. And again, so much of this movie just fascinates. So Topo and Blippi witnessed this. And she's like, "Fuck, do we even want to come to this town? This might be worse for us." We're walking back to work on the tunnel and she's just like, "I don't know if this is like an actual goal we should reach for." And so this is interesting. This leads me to believe did Topo learned his lesson because now he's like, "No, we're gonna fucking do this." And he costs. We're just gonna fucking do this. I mean, we do learn that he's like, "We need to ease into this." But yeah, he's just like, "No, we're gonna fucking figure this out." Why do they need to raise money to dig? I can't know. Because they're not hiring anybody to dig. Exactly. I have no clue. They did buy some dynamite which tied all four of our movies together. Dynamite was used. It was not about Westerns. It was about dynamite. It was not about dynamite. Dynamite. Back in town, we see that it's like fucking out of Django and Unchained. They're got fucking slaves fighting each other in the streets. And they don't give a fuck about these guys. Topo, no, that Topo, a stranger walks into town or a monk walks into town. I think he's the one, he says Topo here, but I think it was a stranger. Yeah, I fucked it up just because, yeah. And he sees the one guy gets knocked out and he sees to the guy. No, Topo does try to help somebody. No, I was dead on with this. Topo sees the people boxing, tries to help them. The audience who's loving it, force him away. And this is where he's walking off with a blip, and he's just like, we just lost our fucking, cause they can't make their money anymore. They're interested in the blood sport. Oh, okay. I was thinking this was the Manku Common Sense. See, we didn't have enough time. This is a movie that deserves two watching. So you only got time exhaustively to watch this one time. Right. And then you gotta go fucking build the whole fucking fence. You built the border wall on your own with your own money. Mexico did not pay for it. So you gotta lean on me a little bit here. And my notes. I did a good job. I patted on the back here. Sorry, grandma. And so they've lost their audience now. They're into the blood sport. They want the spectacle. They're like the news. They don't want the heartwarming story. They want the fucking blood. Nice touch. Having Bolo be one of those boxers. The fact that he sold anything though, had anything like questioning Jodarowski. Because of course, Bolo, 300 pounds on this guy. So the feminine marshal goes, hey, you guys want to make some money? Come here. We got all pay you a good fee. And then inside, we see the share of taking a big dump on a fucking toilet. Oh my god. And he's like, all right. Clean that shit up because he clogged it up. He had a nice touch here. Jodarowski worked in a bear's garage while he was shitting. So instead of here in flash alert noise, we just hear, so they get in there, but they're humble. Yeah. And he's like, whatever it takes to free these people, I'll do it. Right. The old top. But they fucked this shit. He would have shot everybody. Fuck this shit. Literally. All right. Now a strange monk wanders into town. Beautiful rock star hair. And he interrupts the boxing match. You just parts the crowd, walks in there, and checks on the guy, grabs one by the wrist, and then touches his forehead. And then touches the other guy's forehead. And he's like, well, one of the guy I thought was knocked down and he was like, how's he doing? No. They're both standing up. They're just like completely fatigued and bloodied and everything. He touches the one, touches him on the head, it falls over and they're like, how's he doing? Well, he's dead. Yeah, they're both. Which died first? I got a bet. I got a parlay bet on this. Yeah. And he goes, that guy died first. The crowd doesn't give a shit because they don't care about life. Right. And the guy you talked about, he's wearing fucking tail tuxedo. He's got a big top hat, fucking goblet of whiskey. He, we're in Lago, basically, like you don't give a shit about anything. There's cowards. So and the monk is disgusted, so he goes to the church. He's seeing all these fucking false idol symbols. They're everywhere. Yeah. And he's the, the priest they're drinking. Yeah. Like he, we think he's praying. He's pouring a fucking tall glass of wine and he's got it spiked and everything. He's got fucking. Oh, it's disgusting. And he's like, hey, welcome. Stay for the congregation. We got a service coming up. So the service, the congregation arrives. And I got a, you're going to hear this for a while now because I mean, it's very poignant. It's right to what we believe in. It's what we are to everybody. We're a miracle and these people are praying to the miracle and this is very true to religious figures today. I've seen so many of these Trump is being like, I believe in God and guns and they really take that to heart here. Yeah. Is this Jordan Rasky's commenting on the American way because God is gone in America. God is gone in America for like the freaks, obviously, but yeah. And he's just, you know, he's got, he's got a gun, the priest and he's like, death is our bet. Let those without faith die. And he starts doing Russian roulette, basically spinning the fucking wheel and the chant that maybe this is where I put it in three, 14, three, 15, we'll say we get this chant that's gone. I don't know it in Spanish and I have terrible time understanding syllables and all that. So, I don't know what they're saying, exactly. But it's so fucking intoxicating and it's so, like, it's a trance that they're all in and they're all just loving it. And so, finally, this new monk who's walked in takes the gun and people are like putting it to their head and collecting. Yeah. Everybody in the congregation is there. And they're like orgasmic after it doesn't go off because God is protecting them. Right. So, false miracles that these guys love to do are, you know, big church people. And so, the monk takes it and the, the, the head priest tells them, like, hey, it's a blanket there. Oh my God. You get whispers too. Yeah. He is like, don't worry. It's a blank. It's a blank. He takes the bullets out or the bullet, the fake, and he goes up to a guy because everybody heads back on. By the way, we learned that because there was an actor who did that, he put a blank gun to his head and killed himself. He still can get killed with a blanket. No shit. Yeah. Because something comes out, but it's just, it's not, it's not a fucking bullet. But he gets the fuck you. Yeah. You put it against your head. Yeah. Yeah. So he, he goes to a guy and gets a real bullet and puts it in the chamber and spins it. But everybody has been so disillusioned to this whole fucking act. They think it's just magic. They think it's. Yeah. They believe it. Yeah. They believe the faith. They're still doing the. Yeah. But it is that pulls it. Another person takes the gun, puts it to their head, pulls it. And it's so excited that a kid who a man ago was barely paying attention is like, I want it on this. Takes the gun. And Jonah Rousey's got it wrong here because everybody actually reacts to the kid shooting himself in the head. We don't give a shit about kids who get killed by guns anymore. I mean, most of us do, but a large portion of us are just like, no, 90% do grip. It's just for some reason we still can't get legislation. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I mean by it. Yeah. We have, we somehow worked it out in a way where the minority 10% still gets their say and that we need to have guns everywhere. So the final act, apocalypse. The priest is bummed out because he's like, oh man, like everyone left. Like, you know, the circus is over. Literally his words. He doesn't refer to as a religious spirit. It's a circus. Yeah, it's just fun. And so the priest walks out like here, you can take over the church. I don't give a fuck. I'm moving on to the next scam. First thing that our monk does rips down the propaganda. We got a nice fucking, you know, crucifix back there and everything. And outside we have Topo, he's just dancing his ass off, but no one's giving him anything. And he's like, what the fuck's going on? They're right outside the saloon. They're like, drunk should be coming out and paying us because they're fucking drunk and stupid. It's like, I don't get this. And then one of them goes, hey, come on in. Come on in. They walk in. The decent woman's league is in there inspecting every time. It's all the old women who had the black, young black man killed because they just were having fun. So the lead one's like, all right. This was the voice you had. All right. You're good for the next month. We're out of here. We'll see you boys are up to nothing. You know, do BS here. So go ahead and have your fun. And then the men in town, like, come on, you know, gesturing towards Topo, they open up a little trapdoor. They go downstairs. All those horrors they were sneaking in and the caskets are down there. Everyone's fucking having a good time. They're drinking, gambling, right. And we get shots of like men, like there's like a guy being held captive, playing the stand up base, and then there's like a little leper play or child or something playing like a little violin or straight up Epstein Island. It's Epstein Island. There's baby oil everywhere. Yeah. Baby oil. People. Not collage alert. Yeah. Not packed. I know. This is a, this is again, a peatity. Situation. It's a freak off. It's a freak off. And the dresses of all the women are just laid out and they're just here to be objects for these fucking rich debutants and everything. What's a debutant? Why did I just say debutant? Yeah. It's not. I have no idea what that word is. It's a, it's a woman of society. Okay. These are just rich old white fucks. Right. That's what we got here. You're in the rich old white fuck thing. Exactly. And they're like, you guys want to make some money? Do your act. Do your act. Everybody stops and they're just watching them and they're trying to do their act but they don't have the latter. It's a kissing routine. It's a kissing routine. And the people, they're all drunk. They're all fucking horned up. Half the people are naked. So one of the guys, because they're in control of this situation, pushes them so that Topo lands on top of Blippi. And so she's pinned down and they're like, fuck her now in front of us and he doesn't know what to do. He's bald. He's selling it. He's got no eyebrows and eye acting on his ass and she's like, I don't see them. I only see you and I love you. Let's just do this. Let's get out of here safely and let's live our life. Yeah. She's mid. She's like, I love you. So you're making love to me. So I didn't even consider this is the first time Mara told him, you got a fight to love me. And that fight is endless. It's going to go on forever. All he's shown is a little bit like they have, yeah. So he's finally here for the first time. True affection. Right. Which is what the second gunmaster was taught. So the back of the tunnel and they embarrassed himself. They fought in front of them. Yes. Blippi is kind of getting some PTSD over that. They all laughed at her. Right. Yeah. And so she's just like, oh, I'm so ashamed. And he's like, you have nothing to be ashamed of. I love you. Yeah. In fact, I want to marry. He takes her off and carries her. And she's like, no, put me down. Maybe back. I don't want to be anywhere near these people anymore. Takes her to the church. And finally, like, calms her down and I was like, no, you don't understand. I love you. I want to marry you. And she's like, oh, fuck, you're for real. And he goes, hey, you, Monk, we want to be married right now. So she goes over, tasks him on the shoulder. He's like, oh, yeah, of course. And then looks up to see the man. People. Are you ready? He'll all grown up and he is pissed. He's ready to kill fucking Topo. But Topo calms him down because he gets his shit kicked up. He'll. And he doesn't fight back. Yeah. He clocks the fuck out of him. So Topo is bleeding from the face and everything. And Blippi, of course, is please, no, no, you don't understand. I love him. He's so kind. He's so wonderful. And so he does calm down and he's like, I'll hear you out. But then we just get them, like, walking out of the place. And he always gone from his fucking priest robe to Topo. He's wearing the outfit now, including the gloves. That's right. And Topo explains, like, I'm a new man now. I only want to do good. I've thrown that whole fucking thing. My whole life's work is digging this tunnel to free Blippi's people so they can-- I love also how the tunnel is, like, seven feet like long. Is that-- Yeah. It's pathetic. It's like this cheesy-- they got this cheesy entrance made out of plastic they put against some fucking wall. Yeah. Yeah. But anyways. So like, Ayo's like, all right, I'll let you finish your tunnel, but after that, I'm a fucking killer. I'm fucking killer. You told me. Don't stop at anything. Demand complete justice over me, so I'm doing it. So Topo's like, I'm fine with that. We're going through kind of like a montage here because we're going into town. He's watching his dead embarrass himself for scraps while people throw shit in fucking tomatoes and everything at them, laughing, making the show more about them than about the actual entertainment. And he goes back and they're digging through and Ayo is telling him. He's like, this kid fucking takes so goddamn long. I don't have time. I'm just going to marry you right now. He's like, no. Why don't you-- how dang. And why don't you also come down and help us make money so we can buy more dynamite and build this tunnel along faster? And Ayo agrees. And he joins the troop. And he added, I think, a much needed touch to it. He did. Because they love him. People are throwing more money. And so Topo is like, they're back at the fucking mine. They got a little pickaxes or hitting the wall. Yeah. Everything seems to be going well. And then we cut to-- they got dynamite now. And we just have a tragic accident. We just see an explosion. And then they're carrying. Tragic. He's got some fake blood. That one's blooded. Yeah. A little bad. And so they're tying him up. And Ayo is, again, in doubt. He's just like, well, now you can't fucking finish your tunnel. So I might as just fucking put you down because you're done. And he's like, no, no, no, no, no. Ayo, you must understand my body's in pain, but I don't feel the pain. Me and my body are too different. And he immediately stands up and goes right back into the tunnel. And Ayo's like, fuck this shit. No. I'm killing you. Rips off this fucking monster. Just rips it off. Yeah. Back in Topo. And Topo pushes right by him, got his pickaxe out, starts clawing at it again, and he frees up the last few rocks. Right. And there it is. And so now Ayo is ready. He's like, all right. Well, the tunnel is open. Yeah. So everybody starts rushing out. So they have to fucking run out because Topo apparently had this idea of, no, we've got to slowly integrate them. But they just get the bums rush. Right. And so they get fucking run over. Ayo's just like, I need to kill you, but I don't know what to do. And so he just runs off. Right. He's like, I can't kill my master. Yeah. So Topo is like, yeah, he's like, we need to slowly work these people in society. We don't want to overrun them. We don't want to eat up all the gooses and ducks of this town because they'll fucking demonize us. Right. Yeah. I see what you did there. And they push right there. Well, they've been in a fucking town, a cave for fucking decades, fucking each other. They're the moles. They wasn't strange. They're all the moles. They're seeing the sun. And what does the sun do? That's bad. And what do good Christians do when they see people in need group? Uh, Murray, guns, stand their ground is what they do, Griff. They had not one racist bone in their body when they were doing this. They were just manifest destiny. They said, this is our ground and we stand it. And they just unload on all of the lepers. Topo had been knocked down. He was slow to get up. He just blew off a part of his shin, fibula. So he was running down there. And again, the emoting coming from him for a man with no eyebrows, killing it. If he falls down, holding her pregnant belly, the baby is coming. She's got shit to deal with fucking topo disillusioned. Yeah. Once again, because he arrives to town, the towns will have murdered every single leper that he helped free. Every one of them is dead. And he gets there and he shrieks out. He's so fucking angry. And of course the townspeople see that and they're like, we're terrified of you too. So we're going to shoot you, stand our ground. So they start shooting at him, but thankfully he took his PCP this morning because no bullets are hurting him. Maybe he learned the blind man's trick. He learned the blind man's trick. So they're shooting the negative spaces where everybody said I forget what he would phrase he used. Yeah, I forget too. They just go right through them. They barely even bleed. So he's just walking at them, getting shot at. And finally as he's arriving right to them, they're fucking running in panic because the bullets aren't working. Right. Because they're what, Griff? Fake tough guys. Every single fucking one of them. Anybody using a gun to fucking fight their fears, fuck you. So he picks up a rifle and starts shooting at them. And he's like taking out some of the townsfolk. They all scatter. He's got quiet. He goes in and picks up, I forget what these oil can. He's the lantern. Oil lantern. There it is. And he just calmly sits down, takes screws off the top, pours the kerosene, over his fucking head and does a rage against the machine. So he simulates. That could have been the opening song. King Gizzo's got self-immolate, but that wouldn't really tie in as well. As he's burning himself to death, Flippy comes into town holding that newborn baby bigger than her. Same time from the left side of the frame, E.O. walks in and they're just standing over her late baby daddy and his master. And maybe this is where E.O. learns a lesson. He stops being a fake tough guy and is like, I need to man up and take care of, even though this is even my kid, I'm going to take care of this kid because he was my father's kid. He's my brother. Yeah. I think this is a really interesting thing because it's like we get to learn through people faster than what we realize. So it's like, it's the thing of like, I want things to be better for my kids. Well, from what we've understand about Topo's journey to this point where we think that E.O. is kind of like understanding at the end of this movie, as a young man, he's getting to learn what it took his dad years and years and years and years to figure out. Well, he also learned it because he was in the monastery, so. That might have helped him too, that might have helped him too. But it's like he got to go through everything much faster because he got to learn it kind of through his dad in a way, like obviously not from being around him all the time, but he got to understand because he had a deep profound understanding of his dad at the end. So we jumped that kind of conclusion that E.O. kind of figures out what his dad took so much time to learn, him and E.O. and Blippi right off with the child on his horse. Right off into the sunset, much like Weird Western month. So unlike that scene where E.O. did not get to ride the horse with him and Mara, we get the woman and the child to get it right off together. And then we cut back over, they just made a rock burial for Topo, and we cut back to it as they're walking off, and now it's completely honeycombed. Yeah, there's got to be some kind of biblical kind of metaphor for that. Milk and honey, you know, some kind of shit like that. So there you have it people, nine hours. Yeah, that's our interpretation of the movie. You knew it was, like we both knew it was going to be long. You knew it was going to be long. If you know anything about Jodorowsky, yeah, hit pause, pick it up when you're ready to finish it, you know, fucking take your time with it. I don't know why I'm saying this at the end. That should have been a lesson for the beginning of the movie, you know, like pace yourself, like there's not a race. There's not a man. And now I can read my graphic novel, The Sons of El Topo. You have it. Yeah, I have it. Oh, are you interested? Oh, yeah. Now I can now, I'll know what's going on. I'm assuming it's it's Eho and the Blippi Baby. I hope that you have good things to report on it because I know that Jodorowsky started doing a lot of like graphic novels, at least I think because that's the only way he can fund the vision he has, you know, because he's still out there for mainstream movies. Well, he's out there and also people would probably try to nickel and dime them for locations and everything. And he likes to just go fucking shoot shit wherever you shoot shit. Well, there you have it. Weird Western Month comes to a close, Griff. Just like every occasion that was a weird one. Yeah, I mean, it's like, how can we be any less innovative like we I've heard from people. They're like, you changed my mind about a Western could be you guys always innovating. I mean, think about all the genres we I want to say right now, this was the best episode we've ever done. Period. Period. Yes. I mean, we've helped the world by generalifying these Westerns. Right. Casserole Western, soil at Western, Hannibal Western. And I want to. Peyote Western. I don't know. I'll just do that out. Peyote. I want to call it a West Dodo Rousky. West Dodo Rousky. Yes. Perfect title. Acid trip Western. Now most bands after blowing mines for four weeks in a row would rest on their laurels. They would be like, I'm going to go on autopilot for the next few weeks. We'll do the tour where we just do the repeat. We don't even actually have Mike's plugged in. We just hit play on the episode for a live audience. They fucking go wild like we're recording at Raw right there. I'll do some a e-pop shit and like like shirt off and. But here's the thing, Griff. I don't know if you've noticed. Well, we haven't noticed today because it's how this fucked it. It's hot. It's hot. But the weather's getting chillier. The leaves are a change in. Things are getting a little darker. Right. That can only mean one thing Griffin, Schlachtober is here. When going global theater, it comes ghoulin' glablin' feet. Now here's the thing, we're going to, like I said, we're always innovating and we're going to even innovate more because we are going to, what we're going to do now is, I want to put it out there, first of all, we know I'm genre fluid. I go both ways when it comes to horror and action. But we have a guy in our circle who has forgotten more about horror than me and Griffin combined. So what we're going to do, which we rarely do, I rarely let control of the show out for Griff, let alone anyone else, but we are going to hand for the whole month the show to our good friend Malibu Mike Ebelin, or should we call him, Monster Mike for this month. So without further ado, well, let me set it up, Mike, how are you doing? I'm doing well. Thanks for having me on again. A year ago, we floated the idea, because there's so many brilliant ideas come out of our heads. It's shocking, like if you guys, I can't tell you the last time you guys had a bad idea. I agree. So I threw up the idea, we were talking about monsters, because when I was a kid, the Mount Rushmore of Monsters was Dracula, Wolfman, Frankenstein, who would you put the Gilman as the fourth one, who would you put, Mike? Yeah, creature was pretty iconic. He has iconic look. He has one of the best looks of all time, but he only did what two movies, right? Three. Three? Wow. I've only seen the first one. Third one's trash, the first two are good. Second one has Clint Eastwood. Wow. Wait, creature Michael do? Yeah, revenge with the creature has Clint Eastwood. He plays a lab technician. I don't remember watching the first one. Griff's talking. I don't know if his mic is using, he's being picked up on the mic. But so we were like, what the modern era, it's got to be Jason Voorhees, Freddy Krueger, Michael Myers, and Leatherface. Would you agree with that, Mike? I would say for modern horror, yeah, those are the guys. So, and I'm like how old I am, modern horror, these movies are 50, 40 years old. But yes. Those series are like, would you consider the classic, like anyone I'd say under 40, that's their classic monsters, when you agree? Yes. Yeah. So this is the only stipulation I gave Mike. I was like, we're going to hand it over to you. You're going to pick one movie from each series. And that's it. That's it. Well, and you can't do Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2, A Nightmare in Elm Street 2, or Halloween 3. Why? Because we already did them. Check them out. I think you were on the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, right? It's been like seven years ago. I don't remember. Yeah. That was a long time ago. Check those out. It's probably easier to find them on our YouTube channel because they're way down there. But we did them. So I said, that's it. It can be your favorites, Mike. It can be the ones you think are the most important. You can be whatever order you want. Now I hand the show over to you, Mike. All right. So starting off Shallak Tobramont, the Gulling Lablin Theatre, we are going to do the seventh installment of the Nightmare in Elm Street series. Wow. We're going to do Wes Craven's new Nightmare in 1994. I've never seen this one, Mike. So I'm excited. Perfect. I think I've seen all the others. But I've never seen this one. Yep. We are going to do New Nightmare. That's a very meta one, right? That is. And I can't remember. It predates the scream, right? It does. So did that give the idea in Wes Craven's head to do scream? Because that was a very meta. It might have. Okay. Well, I'm very excited. I have no gris. I haven't seen it either. Perfect. I chose well, apparently. All right, Mike. I'm going to let you close out the episode. All right. We will see you next week for the beginning of Schlachtober. And as always, keep it warm and keep it condiment free. [BLANK_AUDIO]
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