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Big D Energy | Wednesday, September 25th, 2024
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My name is Neil Rule. That guy, D Mac, Darren McCarty, perhaps you're familiar with his work. We have KG in the building. KG, what's really good? You know what's really good, man. It's the damn Tigers, man. They did it again. They did it again, man. Tarek Skubel, Immaculate. Let's just say it like that Spencer Raxter. Hello. What up, Spenney? How you doing? Good. You're going down to the park tonight? I am. Yeah, me and the boys about. There's like seven of us going down there. So we're going to be squatted up downtown. Uh oh. You know, we're all just talking about it. Ah, John Spenney, Vena, work tomorrow. Oh, minus $100,000. Okay. Yeah. That's not the number. Yeah, you know. I already take this word of line opens up. Minus $100,000 means it's what, plus $25,000? Where can people find you if they want to, they want to sponsor you for the nine? Yeah, if you want to, if you want to send your boy a beer or something like that, I'll be sitting in a section 115. Oh, lower bowl. Okay. So take this $20 for the season section 115 row 43. There's going to be like seven of us down there. So yeah, I mean, I'm going to be out on the concourse stuff before that. I know DMACC said he might be down there. I know Matt is going to be down there. So it's going to be a good time. I'm excited. It's going to be my first Tigers game this year because usually just run the streets at opening day and that's it. I mean, yeah, now you run the streets and go into the game. $20 for lower bowl though. You can't pass that out, man. No 100%. I told you, when little Chris get it right, you got to give him a little credit. You know, he got that one, right? Got what, right? Yeah, dropping the ticket fees and letting the fans come to the part. You bought those on the secondary market for 20 bucks, right? Nope. Oh, no, you bought them from the Tigers. Oh, I tried to tell you that's like, you keep hating, man. Tell Chris Ilitz, you know, nice job when nice job is done, Neil. You can even acknowledge. He didn't have to do that in this time for all the stuff. They look, they look around and take the temp. This is knowing the temperature or your fan base and stuff like this. So hopefully people show out tonight. Yeah, absolutely speaking of the Tigers, Daniella Bruce will join us. Hey, shut up. Part of the Tigers and the Red Wings radio broadcast. You will join us coming up at 1142. At least he starts tomorrow. That is correct. So we're, we're in it, everybody. We're wearing my red blue jersey tomorrow. We're absolutely in it. Boys were down at the ballpark last yesterday. Who's that? The Red Wings, like all of them. All of them showed out. Yeah, no doubt. No doubt. No, it is. It is great to see. Terrick Scooble was Terrick Scooble on close the door on the Tampa Bay race. Shout out to the Miami Marlins. Shout out. Yeah. Yeah, look at you. Now that I know what I got a Marlins pitcher and stuff like that. So I took a look at the score. It's 4-1 in the 9th. Neil was sitting there sweating in it. If anybody doesn't know, Neil is wearing the Miami Marlins gear because they are playing the Minnesota Twins and it's a win win now. So show media didn't know that. It was pretty funny. Yes. It actually, it actually was. Now you also like are we going to take this second because you got some heat on this because because the Marlins did their job. But what happened with the Guardians? They could have done their job also for us. Right? Against Kansas City. But they can't see he was in Washington. Yeah. So let me paint the picture. I got a little Woodward hit list going right now. That's what I want. Let's do step number one. Matthew Broder. Royals. Is it Matt Broder or Matthew Broder? You have to ask him. I don't know. Oh, wow. This is saucy. When he walked around. It's Matt. You know, I don't know. Okay. I'm going by what's on the graphics as Matthew. His mom will call him Matthew. I'm gonna call him Matthew. That's right. Here's the deal. Royals nationals. Last night. Neil, Neil going into the 10th inning. Yeah. Royals get a run. They had a couple guys on nationals did a nice job getting out of the inning. They go to the bottom of the 10th. One nothing. Royals. You start with the runner on second. The nationals try to bump the guy over to third, which right away is soft. Yeah. Right away is soft. Guy falls off the first two bun attempts, which obviously tells you he's not an effective runner. Right. So why is he up there? Yeah. Falls. He's in an O2 hole strikes out. Of course. So there you go. Joey Gallo comes in as a pinch hitter later in the inning. You know what Joey Gallo is going to do. Swing. Everything or nothing. Everything you're going to out to boom games over. All right. Bunting. Matt Broder and his love of bunting, which I'll never understand. You'll never get me past the point. You get three outs in an inning. Why are you going to give one away? That's number one. The mentality of bunting is weak. It's weakness. Go win the game. Get a hit and go. Single wins you the game win the game or at least try to win the game. But you got people like Matthew Broder, well, you know, the situation calls for it. No, the situation never calls for you giving out giving up and out never, never. So here's the deal. Bunting cost the Tigers. The shot at the number two seed in the wild card. That's right. Matthew Broder cost the Tigers the seed last night. Just go put that on broader. It's Matthew Broder's call that the Tigers didn't get the leg up in the number two seed. That's your fault. The blood is on your hands. You did this. These are your people. These are your people out there trying to strike it out. Your people. How did it work? Matthew, who the situation calls for it? Yeah. Good job. Good job. Matthew. Hey, Caddy Mike. Okay. Okay. That's the broder. Caddy Mike G says, can you turn up Neil's volume and his tone his tone and his volume isn't coming through. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. He'll break the mic. Matthew Broder. Thanks for pissing away our shot at heaven. The number two seed last night, the blood's on your hands. Your hands. So a little coordination everybody will just move the runner up. No, go win the game. Yeah. I mean, listen, I'm all for bunting in specific situations, but not with a runner on second and a chance to win the game and no outs like a single wins you the game. You don't want there. You can't get a single shouldn't be an MLB. It wins you the game. I like bunting in certain specific situations, but not that one. I agree with. I rarely. Now you want to say there's there's nobody out in a tie game and you want your runners on first. The runners on first, you know, if you if you want to bunt, you guys on second, nobody out in a tie game, okay, I'll ride with you provided you have somebody that can get a bunt down and not fall two of them off and being an O two hole, right, because then it's advantage pitcher. Look at the history of the numbers with two strikes on it. It was stupid and people who support bunting are stupid and people who cost the tigers a number two seed in the playoffs, Broder are stupid to kill on Broder a little bit. I mean, he's responsible for this. He played baseball. I don't care. He played a decade ago. Oh, all right. The game is changed. Watch yourself. You don't want to go in somebody career, let's not do that bunnings to you get three outs. That's it. Why you giving one away when you're down a run? Why you? You I don't care. That wasn't the right situation to never make it make sense to me. Those three outs are your currency. That's all you have left. You'll never make it make sense. But that's okay. Some people are weak. Some people are weak minded. Some people just want to tie the game. Nobody wants to go for the win. You've been outed, Matthew Broder. You've been outed. This is your fault. Blood time, your hand. So I hope you feel bad about it. Neil, not the fact that you've pulled your guns out today and are shooting shots. Are you ready? Somebody else you want to shoot? As a matter of fact, D-MEC, I'm glad you did. It came to my attention, Mr. Ryan Ermani by the way. I was going to bring the bet to you too, by the way, but go ahead. Deliver it. Because we, look, I'll give you the back story. Ryan Ermani, noted Michigan delusionalist, not fan, delusionalist, came on these airwaves. And mark me on this, came on these airwaves and guaranteed that Michigan was, quote, going to win out. Yeah. Any lies? He said he was going to run the table. I was there. He said 11 and 1. They will, quote, run the table and go 11 and 1, laughable, which is laughable. But that's impressive. That's his schtick. That's what he does. Okay. That's Bob. You know, live your life, man. Get your lemon water and live your life. So with that being said, now you tell me we have an update to this yesterday. They did the watch party, which a lot of people tapped into, by the way. That was fun. It was great. Awesome. They did it. Breaking news. And this one is almost unbelievable. Yeah. It's all about new customers at bet three six five because they get $200 in bonus bets when they bet $5 and even better bonus bets can be used on the spread totals and player props. There you have it. It's $200 to get $200 in bonus bet and see why it's never ordinary at bet basis by gambling problem. Color text 1 and 100 gambler 21 plus only must be physically located in Colorado terms and conditions apply. The first ever Buick Encore GX Avonier is now in stock and short line Buick. It's been said luxury is in the details and Avoniers exclusive embroidered leather seating with a quilted stitching pattern welcomes you to this luxury SUV. Avonier comes loaded with advanced technology, including a rear camera mirror, HD surround vision and wireless charging, staying connected and safe on the road is possible. Now it's short line Buick experience Buick Encore GX Avonier at 1301 South Havana Street. You do the drive in. We'll do the rest. Great job. But our money was out there hollering money. He was he was please tell me what he had to say. Okay, so I approached him with the bet that you offered to do and he countered. No, I don't know if you'll accept. Wait, wait, wait, wait, no, what it explained the terms of the bet that you wanted to do. The fact that you say they're going to run out the rest of the schedule is lunacy. Even I said that and I'm a Michigan fan, but yes. So he came back and he countered and I know you probably won't accept the terms of this bet. So if Michigan gets nine plus wins, you will have to throw a pizza party and like the cracked out pizza party. I said they're going to win nine games. You did. So this is why I know you want to accept the bet. But he said if they win nine plus, you have to give, you know, any a pizza party, a cracked out pizza party with chicken bread, wings, the whole field because he doesn't want to do money. He likes experiences. He said that's what he said. Yeah. So if you want to do that nine plus wins and then if he loses, he will do the same for Big D. Why? I said they were going to win nine games. I didn't come on a microphone and say they're going to run the table and go 11 and watch. I tried it. So I'm on. Don't talk about it. Don't talk about it. Be about it. Lay it to tell me they're going to run the table, bet you whatever you want. So I will go back with the counter offer is the rest of the season or nothing. Here's the deal, D neck. I can only go by what people say and what you say and then you call them on it and then they're like, well, how about nine wins? No. You said it. You can't. This is the one thing that I have an issue with, right? Because it's accountability is if you you can't say something, get called out on it, change what you said and then that's your original statement, what you changed. So like just reset and just say, okay, you know what? I talked out of school. I was a little aggressive. I'm going to dial it back, you know, just admit that instead of, did you say that instead of going back for it? There's enough tape or enough people in the room. It's just if if you got excited and we all do at different times, right, you know, the year where we're going to get that way with our lions, I'm sure right little out of school. But just when when you realize you're there, just be accountable to it. That's all. Because when you sit there and it's the excitement, yeah, I get the why, but it's also to if you want to have a real be taken seriously, at least in my world. So yeah, there's nothing wrong with that because if it was said, that's all it is. You say, yeah, I said it, I, you know, and I was wrong. I was on a school. I was a little excited. Yeah. So I had some big, the energy going on over there. So I'm trying to be the middle man negotiator here because I win either way. There's nothing to negotiate. So I'm a win-win. So you want me to take that, take the counter back to him and say, no, no, there is no counter. It's there. There's no negotiation. That's what I mean. No counter. You said it, Ryan. He did. You said they're going 11 and one. But you talk all this ish and then you're like, well, it'll be nine games. No shit. They're going to win nine games. All right. So plain Northwestern some more. What I'm saying is, so there's you, of course you want the original offer. That's the only way you're going to make the bet. D-Mac, you're 100% right. He's already turned this into an alternate reality. Like just listen to the tone there. It's we're just going to gloss over the fact that he said they're, quote, winning out and going 11 and one. And then when you call him on it, well, no, nine wins. No, no, no, all I care about is this 11 and one. He said it. Yeah. Not me. But you're still willing to do the deal. If it's the one in the table. Absolutely. Okay. I will take it back to it. Just you want to negotiation is going forward. My favorite part of that whole exchange is when Neil said, I said they were going to be done in three. In case he goes, yeah, that's good stuff. No, it is magic 754. I love how rent free Michigan lives in everybody's head. How's it rent free? Yeah. When we're responding to something someone said about Michigan, it's not what rent free means when it is brought up and it's a topic. It's not rent free. Yeah. I'm just trying to get this bit. It's college football season. How could it be rent free? Chris says. I guess you found a fan who expects more out of his team than you do, Neil. Not true, Chris. No. Because I said the right nine in three hours. He doesn't expect it. And then Imani said, well, nine wins. DMACC, you peg, you peg this before the show started. The reality is being aborted and a new reality. Just go. Okay. With new information, my opinion changes, but don't say it insane off the rip. You know, we were all, we're all excited differently at different times. It's just, where are you now? But if you're going to die on that hill, then die on that hill. But there's, you know, you've got to crack the tape out. Is it the accountability to what was said? It's just to the reality. It's just, it happens so often, right? It's so weak and it goes bad. What happens? It's your credibility. If you don't, if you don't say, like that, I was telling Kenny, said whether I agree with it or not, right? When Sam Flannel makes a great point or whatever, I have to make sure that I acknowledge that, that I make sure that it's known because I disagree so wholeheartedly with a lot of it. But it's also like I was telling Kenny, it's like we have conversations on something different people. Some people are missing certain DNA and they can't, they can't grasp or they only have a certain level because you're coming at it with a different experience. Yeah. That's all it is. This is accountability. The one thing I respect about Sam the most is I would do information, right? Change your opinion. So if things change and you change your opinion, that's all it is. Just be accountable. Okay. Yeah. I said it then. Mm hmm. I was a little aggressive. You know, worse than don't be. I mean, who's gonna? Yeah. Did, did, did when Ryan or Monty or anybody who predicted 11 and one or whatever, do they think the quarterback position would be this bad? No, he said 12 and no, originally with new information, right, you're going to be able to run the Army offense the whole year and be successful, right? Yeah. And now we're asking right now. So that's all. So Neil, will you be in attendance for the watch party? You do you have things to do after your show tomorrow? Because I can garner this, we could get this, this bet established. Yeah, I do. I do. As a matter of fact, I pick the kids up from school. So, you know, that's what there is no negotiation. There's nothing to talk about. Yeah. I'm going by what he said. Is he, is he admitting he's full of shit when he talks or no? He's not doing it. Then he's full of shit. Like, I don't know what else to say to you. So all right, we got to talk about the Tigers, people in the chat right now. We need to talk about Derek scuba right now. We're going to, to two hour show, everybody, it's a two hour show, we're gonna be here, and we're gonna be here just like this boat's gonna be here. Man, this boat will always be here, right, do you, man? What's that? This boat will always be here. I can't hear you. This boat. Oh, yeah. Well, this boat's always here. 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There's lots out there, and go ahead and, you know, as we talk about this, we're going to talk about the Tigers, obviously. The main story, Terrik Scuba, shut it down and I'll give the Tigers credit for this. They played that masterfully with moving the game up because it started pouring. It did. They moved the game up, it was absolutely masterful of what they did. No matter what, Scuba was pitching that game. Yeah. Uninterrupted. They would have waited as long as it took. Oh, sure. They were doing it. You got to get some credit to Bo Bursky as well, man. They only expended two pitchers in this outing, man. That goes unsaid how big that is for these next five games. No, absolutely. And it was a game. And D-Mac, you know what it was? It was another classic Tigers win from this season because there wasn't much going on offensively. No. That is for sure. But it doesn't matter. They won again. That's all it was. And that's the way it's supposed to break down, isn't it? Your number one starter, your AL Triple Crown pitcher loading, supposed to hold the other team seven, one run at the most, you know, seven strikeouts, just being electric, you know, sort of, sort of, apropos to the way the season's gone. They're just riding the wave, but they're getting it done and everybody's contributed. Right? It's not just certain guys carrying the team. Their best players are being their best players, but they're getting it throughout the lineup. This bullpen and the pitching has been absolutely remarkable. I mean, I don't think Chris Fedder, the pitching coach, gets enough credit for the way that they're not only piecing it together, but how they're doing it. So again, big game again tonight. Just like that, we're down to four as a magic number. Like you said, realistically a week, you know, after tomorrow night, you could be a playoff team. It's just a scenario right now. After tomorrow night, they could be a playoff team and DMACC, it's just wild to me because when you look at their lineup yesterday, five through nine, five through nine, 0 for 14, five strikeouts. Yeah. And they won. Yeah. And you never thought that they weren't going to win, but this, this is the season. It defies logic that absolutely defies logic. And not only it's not a one off though, like this is the way that it works and it looked to me once he'll Perez was the only one having good at bats yesterday, literally the only one. And he's, he's been having great at bats this last month, whenever he's been called upon two. So, and so what do you expect tonight then? I expect the bats to get rolling again, because that's what we haven't seen. We've seen them figure out a way to piece this type of win together. But tonight they need them. They need the bats to be going because why you don't have scuba on the mound and you need some run support. So this is a big game. This is, you know, they're all playoff games, but this is the one, you know, you know, and golf, Neil, when you're playing in this match and you sort of have control, but you know, like if you make this like 15 footer, which you're not expected to make, but you can really like grind the gears. This is, you win again today. This takes like the air out of the sails. If you're Minnesota and you're Kansas City and stuff like that, and I wouldn't say Kansas City as much as Minnesota, but reeling as bad as they have, they know the tidal wave that that the Tigers are, and they know what the Tigers are expect. So they're doing everything they need to do tonight. Let's expect and spending will be in the ballpark. So I mean, the bats will get rolling five through nine years, oh, for 14, five strikeouts was never in the game, Spenny, yeah, you might get a Riley green bomb tonight. Okay, I'm gonna put your head just ripping like a little cheddar on this is your sports book. Yeah, official sports book. Yeah, it just came in and I do with it what you, what you may, but what, what is Riley Green home run tonight on Jesus sports book just just just for just for, you know, just for entertainment. Just for shingles. I put some on Kerry last night. That didn't work. What do you say? I put some on Kerry Carpenter last night. Yeah, for a Homer. Yeah, I didn't. Oh, yeah. The bases loaded too. I know. Got a little got a little horny as they say. I thought that was it. But DMACC, it's again, just getting back to it. It's incredible to me that you can have those types of stat lines and it's just, it was never a doubt that you were going to win. Like that's, that's how you know, never in the past would really tell you, no, right? What's that, Spenny? Plus six thirty for Riley Green and home run. Whoa. I'm doing it. Not bad. Tap in. Yeah. Put it on there. Caesar Sportsbook, shout out Caesar's Sportsbook. That's exactly it. That's when you know that they're start, they're clicking on all cylinders, right? You know, that's probably the conversation. AJ's having, you know, they're having coffee with scuba, waiting out the rain delay and going, you know, big dog needs you, you can go, I'm going to let you go as far as you can go. But I need, I need seven out of you right by bullpen and we've been, and, and scuba knows that as, as that rock, even the last game, not, not this last game at home, but the last away game, they, they got to him a little bit early and then he locked it down, right? So it was just DMACC. It was one of those other good teams do, right, with their start, with their number one elite starter. That's a fact. That's it. And, and for me DMACC, it goes back to what we talked about when, why, why is it different? What changed? You could say, why do the Tigers win now? Because when you have that guy up top, the, you know that you're getting a quality start. You know that you're probably going to win the game when he pitches. That's, that's where it is, man. And you were in a spot yesterday where, yes, five through nine went 0 for 14. But old Derek, it didn't matter. Derek Scuba was the best pitcher in the park yesterday period into story and zero was good. You know what I'm saying? He was going to keep him on a zero. You found a way to punch two in and that was, it was, oh, yeah, club was close, man. Like that. It, it just, again, it speaks to the run that this team is on and I don't even think we fully appreciate it or understand it. When I throw that net, those numbers at you, I bet if you looked up the history of when a lineup goes five through nine, 0 for 14. What's that team's record? No, they definitely lose. You know what I'm saying? And it was never a doubt yesterday. Yeah. But that's good because of the guy you had on the mound. And this is kind of speaks to what this team has been all year. If you go back to the beginning of the year, a lot of their wins came in this manner grinded it out wins. You know, we may not put up a lot of runs, but we will get timely hits at the right time and as long as the pitching is good, we'll come through. And you saw that again yesterday, man. They have literally built the season off being resilient. So that's what makes this so amazing, man. But it absolutely helps. Man, great song, by the way, but it just always helps when you have a guy up there that you know is going to go out there and give you a zero every time he goes to pitch. I'm amazing. Yeah, I'm all that. But it was good. It was good. It was good. It was good. It was good because Jeezy. What you calling it? No, that's a dog. Come on. They don't waste their heart yet. But Jeezy definitely has the better verse. Yeah. But that song is great. Yeah. And no matter what kind of what kind of take that from me, only Mike Kanye, no, I fear for him. He might be. He might be next. Listen, Kanye, people are crazy. He has the best four album run in music history, unreal, unreal, just an insane run. That's going to be erased from history. No, it's not. You can't erase that. It's just like, they thought they could erase our Kelly from history. No, they didn't. No, they didn't. No, it's the Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson gets played every day. Yeah. And it's more like a six album run. Oh, man. Kanye's kind of his run was insane. No, it's a good song. But I even feel like weird saying it's a good song now. That's how it is. You can't take away the music. Yeah. The music is forever. Kale still gets played to this day. People thought they was going to get our Kelly out of here. The music is a different story, though. All right. Oh, go ahead. Sorry. I was just going to say college dropout late registration. Graduation. My favorite. And it's mark twisty. It's a fantasy life of Pablo, like that six albums. You throw a life. Oh, yeah. Pablo's a class. Nah. I'm just saying. I would give Yeezus more credit than life. Oh, it was some joints on there. No, it's fair. But like it could be over. Ultraly. No, for real though, right? Okay. That's all I'm saying. But it could be over for him. Not the music. No, the music is forever. It's timeless. They're getting more and more powerful. Diamonds are forever. Yeah. Right. Don't throw your diamonds. I can do this all day, Neil. The rock is still alive. I can do the real world sports pre-game show all day, everybody. That I could do all day long for sure. And you guys know what it is. And you guys know what we're doing myself and Sean Belizean on home games live from second best bar 42 Watson Street with a new Holland brewing company pre-game show. And don't forget the whole day starts with Woodward and Maine. Terry Foster, Buncimp, Matthew Broder, 8 to 9 a.m. Every Sunday morning as well that gets everything rolling. It's all presented by Sabbath Coffee Roasters. 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Hello, we also have in the building KG Spencer Raxter, we have all of you in the Woodward Sports tab thread, jump into there, get your thoughts out there, and we're talking tigers and rightfully so, we're going to get into the lines, that's going to be more like a second-hour thing here today, but we're rapping about it, and the tigers did what we pretty much expect them to do yesterday, they took apart the Tampa Bay Rays, and in doing so, because Detroit's B team, the Marlins, got the job done in Minnesota, it was DMACC. I've never seen a collapse, like the Minnesota Twins are on. What does it need to be studied? What is their record? They're like 10 and 23 or something like that in our last 33 games, it's wild DMACC, it's absolutely wild, but the moral of the story is this, where does it end up, it ends up that the tigers, I believe what, 88% chance to make the playoffs now, they're in, they're pretty much in DMACC, and you'll remember, we gave that out as a get, right? Oh, 100%. So when we do this Friday, I'll get all the records updated for you. We took the L on Washington State, we got the win, we just didn't get the cover, that's tough, started out well, but that wasn't the way that it worked out. But DMACC, they're in, man. As it said in, they're in. Magic numbers? Four tigers wins, there's nothing anybody can do about it, three tigers wins in a Minnesota loss, nothing anybody can do about it, two tigers wins, two Minnesota losses, nothing anybody can do about it, they play the Braves, the last weekend of the year, we play the White Sox, you do the math, they're in DMACC. Yeah, no, I mean, if you were ever going to count your eggs before they hatched, it would be now, but, and here's the best part, right? Not worried about the fan base, we can do whatever we want, what is that team at the ballpark? No, their heads down, they're playing ball, they just keep playing and playing and playing, they've been playing playoff baseball for the last month and a half, stuff like this, so absolutely, but when you put, like, that's the reality when you break it down like that. Those are, that's it. So you see something different because that tail spin Minnesota's on needs to be studied. Yeah. Um, Caesar's sports book, the official sports book of Woodward sports, the tigers to make the playoffs. Yes. Minus 1400. Wow. That tells you that tells you right there. That's basically bank CD rates, right? You just take your money and put it in a bank in a CD for six months, no plus 750. If you're so inclined, you do have permission to go ahead and hedge if you want. Just a, you know, if you want to, yeah, for those that got it in a plus four 50, the Noah's plus seven 50, it's a very light investment to hedge. Yeah. I was listening to the flagship yesterday, a guy called in and he said that he bet the tigers to win the world series. I forgot what the number was, but he's going to end up betting against them in every other game leading up to that point to kind of hedge his bets. But I wonder what that tigers world series line kind of look at. Well, I'm, I'm glad you asked because we can, we can go ahead and look that up because the, let me see here, they got a, they got a funny boost going. The Dodgers to win the next two world series is 1500. Huh. So, so that, that's what's out to win the American league. The tigers are plus 1400 on Caesar sports book. So 14 to one to win the American league. And you know what man, like why not dude, like, I, I, we were talking about this yesterday with my, uh, my alavela text group and DMACC, I want to run this by you and I'm glad this popped in my head just now. There is legitimately nobody I fear in the American league. Nobody I fear. If I had the team, I would least want to play is probably the Astros. I'm not, I'm not fearful of the Yankees. Who's going to pitch? I'm not fearful of the Orioles. They're top in pitching like I'm certainly not fearful. You know, I'm not, oh my God, it's the Astros. No, I'm not DMACC, we, we've done this for a month and a half with one and a half pitchers, one and a half pitchers. I'm not afraid of anybody DMACC. I'm not. Why not the tigers? Why not the tigers at 14 to one to win the American league DMACC? Tell me, tell me no. No, I mean, you're bringing in, you're bringing reality into this and as we get closer to the playoffs and stuff like this, this isn't just the hope just to get in and you know, that's the end of the season. No, there's an opportunity to actually do something and it's always that you look back into what do we talk about, you know, in especially in hockey, right? The teams that are playing playoff hockey because they're fighting to get into the playoffs at the end of the year. Like we saw the Redlings last year. But intensity's already ramped up as opposed to team who's clinched and sitting back and waiting. So, yeah, I mean, the reality and as we talk more and more adds, as it continues when they do clench, when we find out, hey, who, who are they going to play? You know, is it, you know, the away game, what are all these things are answered? But the, you just nailed it, Neil, as part of, you have a, you have a great opportunity to win and especially in this American League. They do. Like this is real, everybody. Like this is the way they're playing, the style that they're doing it, how they're doing it, all of it. It's real. It's as real as it gets. You have the, I still don't, you know what's funny, D-Mac? I still don't think we understand how good Tarek school will is in this town. For real. I don't, I don't think that we appreciate the fact he is the best pitcher in the game. He's the best pitcher in baseball. You know, I like to hear more of like opposing players. What do they say? You know, when you talk to them while facing them and stuff like that to the reality and no, because we haven't been a playoff team. Maybe we get on a more of a national stage being a playoff style team and put him in front of the nation where they get to see him, right? Because when would you have got to see Tarek school unless you're a Tiger fan, or maybe that Yankee game at Williamsport, or I don't even know if he pitched, but I'm not. The subscribers. Right. See him. But then what I'm saying is that you get him into a playoff game and it's set up where he's pitching. Everybody will know who he is. Remember when we talked about like who, who needs to step up? Remember that? And I was like, I know it's obvious, but Tarek school, do you understand that he, he did walk a guy yesterday? He did what he did walk a guy. It was his first walk since that Yankees game in Williamsport. No way. His first walk. I believe the little league world series game against the Yankees. I believe. Does he? He don't give free passes. He either gonna strike you out or you'll get lucky and get one of funny, but that's about it. But, but Spenny, that's my point though. Like, I don't even think we understand how good he is. Yeah. His is insane, it's like, like if you haven't seen him in person, like go watch it. Like I went to a game last year, watched him pitching. It's just nasty. The stuff he has is so gross how he can turn it on how much like somebody Neil hates, but Justin Verlander, when he was in Detroit, and he'd get better as the game went on. That's like, yeah. But the problem once he was down to nothing. Here you go. Yeah. World Series pitcher in the history of Facebook. Okay. Wait. That's not what I was talking about. Right. You'd see Verlander going from throwing a 93 mile per hour fastball in the first inning to being 90 pitches deep, throwing a hundred in the seventh inning. And like, that's the same thing that school is doing. It's just insane. The emotion he shows on the mound, I fucking love it. He's pumping his fist. Yeah. We talked about that yesterday with my, uh, with my alavila loyalist friends and he does it after he's out of the game. Yeah. That's, that's, that's why I like school so much. He's not over there like so amped up, so ramped up. This was our, our Verlander discussion. He's much more calm and collected. I feel like there's not as much nervous energy. I don't see him with a hundred pitches after five innings. You know what I'm saying? Right. You know your point that, you know, the Verlander would throw harder the later he got in the games. Yeah. But the thing for me was scuba is like it's, it's, he expects it. He expects it when he's out there. He expects it. He knew he was coming out of that game yesterday and he could finally let it out. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like that's what it was. He's cool, man. Like it's the moment's not too big for him. That's why I'm, I can't wait for him to take the national stage. I can't wait for it. And especially too, for him to go out there, he puts us up again, DMACC, like he'll get his flowers. Like I, I know he's a sigh young favorite, but I just don't feel like people are still in that. It's cute phase. You know what I'm saying? I think that's where they are with school still. No, I, I, not, not if you're in the know, right? We're beyond that. I mean, it's, it's, it's. Look at the no. DMACC, because when I heard that stat yesterday, I said, are you kidding me? He doesn't walk the guys, how, how long ago does that Williamsport Yankees game feel like? Three months? Yeah. You know what? Yeah. I walked the guy since then, man. But I think the two, your point is that his greatness, if you take step back even more to what, what he does and what makes him so great. I mean, he does that and he throws strikes, right? Throw strikes doesn't walk. I mean, how dangerous him coming off the hill from the left side, he just looks so violent coming downhill. Uh, Pete Smith, he, uh, scuba breaks my pitch to contact brain. Remember those days, pitch to contact? Yeah, that was in the 90s. The way that he hides the ball too, right? You can't see the ball. You can't pick it up. So that's why, you know, the greatness that I think after this season when, when it's all said and done, start listening in the off season when other, other teams, great hitters that you respect, start talking about facing Terrace Google. No, absolutely. We come back. We'll be joined by Daniela Bruce, part of the Red Wings broadcast, part of the Tigers broadcast. 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All right, back at it, Big D Energy, Woodward Sports Network, Neil Rule, four time Stanley Cup champion, Darren McCarty, KG Spencer Raxter, all of you and yeah, we're talking tigers. The Red Wings are going to be getting things rolling as well, what a great time to check in with a big time friend of the show, of course, it is Daniela Bruce, a broadcast reporter for the Tigers and the Red Wings, Daniela, appreciate your time. Thanks for squeezing us in, are you a little busy right now, Daniela? Not at all. Not busy at all. Don't worry about it. This is totally cool. No, it's hectic, but in the best way possible. This is what you want, right? You want the Tigers to be making a push late in the season and hoping for some October baseball, so it's fun. Daniela, you're a part of the Radio Broadcast for the Tigers, part of the Radio Broadcast for the Red Wings as well. Can we go back to say August 1st? Because we've kind of come to the light with where we were with this baseball team. So I'll ask you, Daniela, August 1st, this team where they were at, no, we didn't see this coming. Did you see this coming? Be real. No, not to the sense that I didn't, I didn't. I think what I did understand about this team that a lot of people didn't is that there is a lot of talent and they're young, they're exciting, they care, they want to win, they want to be there, and they have some really good players like Riley Green, you have Parker Meadows, you have Kerry Carpenter, Keith, I'm sure I'm missing a few. Derek's Google, obviously, but the Tigers went through some injuries, right? Kerry Carpenter was hurt for a lot of the season, Parker Meadows went through a slump and had to go back down to Toledo to get things right, Spencer Torkelson had to do the same thing. So you start to think about what this team may have been capable of if all of those things didn't happen, but the situation they were in was they were trading away guys like Jack Flaherty and they were suffering injuries. So I don't think this was quite expected. The run that they're on right now is incredible, but what was expected was the hard work that these guys put in and I know that they want to win and they want to be here and they were never going to throw in the towel no matter what the situation was. So what's the behavior? What's up? What's it been like having like a front row seat on the inside and so there's a day and you got to understand what Daniela to yes true professional right covers all the sports and stuff, but she's as big a fan as all of us, but she can separate her fandom from her professionalism, but from your fandom side right oh and by the way your Lucas Raymond and most side are got signed so you can sit down right guys I'm going to see you later on today, but we were going to I was just going to give you that haha right patience, but as a fan like when did it seem like special like this the way that it was different and covering it was there a specific moment where you thought oh my gosh do you know what game I go back to and I actually I was off this day for a personal matter, but it was the Tigers Dodgers series here at Comerica Park and the Tigers pulled off in immaculate ninth inning comeback and ended up winning that game now they're not going to tell you there's a specific point where they were like oh there's something special about this team or oh they can do this and that might have been that might have been in July yes it was in July still and it actually was kind of early in July but I remember watching that game thinking they have something here no matter what happens this season no matter what this turns out to be we're headed in the right direction and this team they fight they're gritty they want to win games and I just I remember thinking that after that game where everybody's counting you out and rightfully so in the ninth inning you're down and they come back and win that game to win the series against the Dodgers and I just remember thinking there's something special here no matter what the result is this season oh hi Danielle appreciate you joining us and I just had to ask like it seems like Chris Federer this season everything he touches just turns to gold is there like a presence when he's walking around of him just like glowing or something like that because it's insane what he's doing the kids call it aura yeah aura what I mean he definitely got some aura he's got some aura that's for sure but Chris Federer's a really good dude he walks around he's just like anybody else we have conversations with him all the time but there's no doubt what he's doing is special and I even with the Jackson Job call up which is really exciting to have him here when you look at some of the numbers he was putting up in Toledo it's not quite adding up to the fact that he's ready to be in the big leagues but when they get to work with Chris Federer and they're looking for specific things out of specific pictures and they start to see that develop in the minors then they get the call up and get to work with him and you're seeing that like like a brand herder Sean Gunther even in time Madden just getting the call ups and being able to hone in on their skill sets and perform at a really high level so it makes me really excited to know that they all saw something in Jackson Job that they're like yeah he's big league ready we want to bring him up we think he can help us win in this final stretch of the season. Daniela Bruce joining us broadcast reporter for the Detroit Red Wings and the Detroit Tigers so she's going to be pulling some double duty here as things as things begin to shake themselves out she will be downtown again obviously for the game tonight and remember everybody by the way six game home stand at Comerica Park in the regular season no fees no ticket fees as a matter of fact when you buy them online Spencer Raxter is a walking proof of that everybody so make sure you get down there Daniela what about that yesterday because the crowd the energy and I was I was listening on the radio as I was driving around town and doing the stuff that I have to do the crowd was hype yesterday with the weather and the crappy weather and all that stuff in the switch of the game time I understand it's hard for 38,000 to get down there for that with that with all the moving parts that were going on what was the scene like in the ballpark yesterday because coming through on the radio broadcast people were hype man we talked about this post game actually I talked about it with some colleagues and some of the players as well when you see the crowd to start the game you're like man it's just such a bummer that they weren't all able to get down here that the weather's not cooperating because this would have been a packed ballpark but the fans that did show up were loud that was one of the loudest games I've heard in a while and they're they probably was half full it was so exciting to see and they were into every single pitch and obviously with Tarex Google on the mound that's easy to do you're into every single pitch but everything and they were so reactive they were so excited Tarex could feel it you saw his reaction when he walked off the mound in the seventh inning he was acknowledging the fans they can feel the energy and it was I don't want to say it's surprising because I'm not surprised that Detroit fans know when they have something special going on and they have a potential playoff team to root for um so I'm not surprised by it but it was just incredible it was so loud if you were listening on the radio Neil I'm sure you thought there might be a packed ballpark while everybody really did show up for this game despite the time change all right deal let's switch gears let's go across the road over to LCA first exhibition game Tarex you're all excited everybody signed up and stuff I guess just you know we got a bunch of exhibition games so we're going to see a bunch of different guys in a lineup and get opportunities and not so much of who's playing the night and stuff like that but just give us a give us a round about what you took away from training camp what you took away from how the wings are set up you know obviously get these contracts done and what do we look forward to with the underway the season you know officially began to start at tonight in Chicago for an exhibition game well first of all DMACC as you referenced I was getting a little nervous about Mo and Lucas not being signed confident but still nervous as most fans were um both of them got signed breaking news coming in from bet 365 where every nail biting overtime win breakaway pick six three point shot underdog win buzzer beater shoot out walk off an absolutely every play in between is amazing from football the basketball and hockey to baseball whatever the moment it's never ordinary at bet 365 gambling problem caller text 1 800 gambler 21 plus only must be physically located in Colorado cross over to new possibilities with the first ever Buick Invista now a short line Buick refined versatile intuitive tech friendly cargo loving and best of all Invista is fun to drive the flowing exterior of the Invista is easy on the eyes and inside you will experience a quiet ride thanks to quiet tuning with active noise cancellation apple carplay android auto and wireless charging will keep you connected visit short line Buick today and experience all Buick has to offer in its new lineup of vehicles at short line you do the drive-in we'll do the rest in time for the season to start Lucas did come up to Trevor City he was in he was at training camp mode just joined the team here in Detroit but I think to have those two contracts done was just that a sense of relief for everybody and you can move forward with preparing for the season the way that you expect to in the way that you want to so having them both around and they're going to be red wings for a long time that's great stuff but this camp felt like it was very competitive and it's always serious but there was just a little bit of a more serious tone to this year's camp and I think that's because these players know how close they came last year to making the playoffs and they're ready to to build off that to do that again this season and the competition for some of the young players that really would like to crack this roster it's going to be tough for them to do but they want to push to do it and I'm talking about the Nate Danielson's Carter Maesers Marco Kaspers who will likely spend some time in Grand Rapids but they want to push to make a make a statement and make it hard for sea visorman to decide who's on this final roster you have Albert Johansson and Janitsyn Bergren who are on prove it contracts right they need to get out there and prove that they can be NHLers every day so you saw some of that competition coming through and the veterans that for lack of a better term know they have a spot on this team right that pushes them to be a little bit better and you could feel that you could feel that all through camp I was between the benches for the red and white game and I've never felt such a serious atmosphere for that game Darren knows there's a lot of work that goes into it but it's fun the crowd and Trapper cities very into it know these guys were dialed and they were ready to go so I hope that translates to some of what we see in the preseason well daniela I know that you're super super busy and we're very very appreciative of your time coming on there is no doubt about it and I know you've been uh filming some stuff with DMACC that's going to be coming out soon so I'm sure that's very exciting I wanted to tell you to uh in the chat right now Ryan's reaction daniela the orange fit is lit people are feeling the orange fit today you want to know why I chose to wear it because I know next week if we're playing either Baltimore or Houston I can't wear orange so today I have to wear my eyes look at that look at and you know there's levels to this folks there's levels to this absolutely spending you got one more yeah I just quickly before we let her go I just had to ask about like what was it like for these young guys in in Traverse City and in the red and white scrimmage they had Patrick Kane there this year because obviously you know he was brought in later during the season last year so they didn't get the full experience but he was out there in the ice I saw some of the miked up stuff like how was their reactions to having the greatest American hockey player of all time in their midst I think they were all very I don't want again shocked is not the right word right there they're used to this they saw him play last year some of our younger players just took it all in right you could tell they were taking it in listening to everything he had to say watching everything that he did but even for some of our veterans I sat down with Dylan larkin and talked to Derek Malone and asked them both about Patrick Kane because this is the first full training camp in offseason that he's had since he was a Black Hawk so it's been a couple of years for him and they were just really impressed with how good he looked how sharp he looked Derek Malone said excellent he wanted to be cautious with that statement but he said it's been incredible to watch what he's been able to do after that hip injury and is really excited to see what he can bring to this red wings team after a full season a full offseason I should say of getting that regular work in and going through camp the way that every other player does so it's going to be a very exciting year to see what Patrick Kane can do all right well Daniella in the chat as well big M Daniella always on top of her game yes you are and I do want to say this like from the broadcast craft of it what you and Dan Dickerson do when you do your when you do your your report hits is elite it's a lead on dance part it's a lead on your part and this is like geeky broadcast guy stuff here for real then it is elite you guys are elite at it I enjoy listening to you and we'll get you back on soon thank you so much Neil I love joining both of you and D Mac I'll see you later I'll see you later D you back to go tigers top secret projects Daniella Bruce everybody broadcast reporter for the tigers and the red wings man you guys just doing top secret top secret stuff I'm so you'll see sooner than later I'm so juiced right now red wing starting I see it on your face I love it man it's just look at this guy I was sorry put the camera on yourself I can't wait I just want it's damn near red in there and I can't wait let me give you a nugget of what she just said there too because there's a lot there's not a lot to unpack but here's but she she mentions mentioned something about the intensity and the go to work in the business the attitude or whatever of what the taste of last year to this leadership group and where they gonna go so they know what they're up against and stuff sounds like that's from day one coming out of camp so we're gonna see the competitiveness yes huge competitors from the young guys from some veteran guys and stuff like this you look at the roster I'm you know going through and looking at a speculated lost roster you got a lot of good guys like there's there's players there's players and guys that are gonna be fighting for jobs and I think guys and this is just me speculating that if there is this is the year that you won't see somebody sent back down to Grand Rapids to to percolate and get some time if they're ready they're gonna get a shot so I like to hear that I like to hear that a lot so when we come back D meck let's just let's just sprinkle in the wings okay for the short segment I got a couple of questions I got a couple of statements where I spent a ton of don't worry we're gonna get to the football everybody we're gonna get to the football I promise you honestly people are juiced for tigers yeah they are I know it's been popping like they're hotter than the lion's they should be because I think we you know we all realize too more like we said is that it's real it's real you can never get this it's a legit free spin yeah it's a legit free spin like there's no fallout if something bad happens yeah there's not so they go to the playoffs and get cooked they were supposed to it thanks for the ride you're right thanks for the ride like you don't get this because next year it won't be like this you know what I'm saying like we're seeing with the lions right now I feel like we're struggling with the expectations as a fan base you don't you won't get this again with the tigers yeah is every if everything goes away it's supposed to be because next year you know what the talk's gonna be prohibitive favor to win the division yep you're all in when they lose you're gonna be pissed like that you never get this in sports it's hype run they own it's only happen what in the 70s 80s once yeah this is crazy this is crazy we've been so thirsty for winning baseball winning hockey we got the winning football like it's back and it's just so good to enjoy it going to meaningful sold out September tigers games you know and I know like we're running super late but it's it's germane to the conversation you know what's interesting about this d meck is with the lions being good you know what they covered that I didn't even think about until it was done and we talked about this when I was hanging out with my buddies before they got you through the month of january which typically sucks and you didn't even notice that january went by you know what I'm saying and then like with the tigers with this run we're like a quarter of the way into the lion season now yeah like the wings are starting the pistons around the corner calls footballs going that's what I'm saying and then like the lions run yesterday last year helped me get through winter which I hate as you guys know right I hate the winter with the past same here thousands sons I hate it I hate the weather here in the winter but with that being said when the teams are good I forgot like how it's just it's flowing it flows seasonal flows and there's no myths and there's no myths yeah I was just thinking dude if you got like a 15 to 20 year old get up down to the game yeah I mean it's exciting not because it like the last 10 12 years in an up to 2 other than the lions last 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organic conversations going neo rule dmak kg spencer raxter all of you and the boobard sports chat thread i love the people on social media yesterday they were giving me a hard time i just i wear marlin stuff on a detroit station f out of here um they just let you know that there's levels to this everybody go marlin's tonight or marlin's you you enjoy it being a double agent though because the marlin's are your second yeah they are yeah it's rare like that's like it's rare you get a free spin mhm it's rare because you know i spend a lot of time in south florida which is probably why i'm growingly frustrated with the winter time but with all that being said yeah you know like i go down there and if i have like a long trip i have a couple off days yeah and i'll go to the ballpark yeah no and go to the baseball game you know i just realized i use the analogy that this tiger's run here at the end getting to the playoffs was like the wings at the end no no this is tigers has turned right into the lions last year running into you know what seeds stuff like this maybe not win in the division but getting in the playoffs and see them what they can do because the reality is is that this team ain't just limping into the playoffs right who wants to play them nobody they are the 2022 lions except they will make the playoffs they control their own destiny no absolutely yeah they're gonna get over the hump they turned it more into like what we witnessed with the lions in the free role and stuff like playing more with house money after that first win steve oh baby kneel are the Iowa Hawkeyes your second team when it comes to college football lol i'm just kidding you know don't do that don't do that don't do that um but yeah so uh lots of go marlin's there in the chat marlin's and nationals go marlin's go nationals go tigers the wife and the side chick actor right now about that all right all right all right they both have to right say it man uh no but i did want to talk about the wings just just for a couple minutes here d mac and i wanted to update everybody because i feel like we left on some bad terms with some folks last year the the red wings you know some unrealistic folks we talked about that you you said your piece on it no doubt what what the wings did in the off-season and i've said this eiserman gives me brad homes vibes you know why guys are getting second contracts and it's not phleepzadino that's getting a second contract lucas ramen no argument most cider no argument i would say if you're breaking these down dollar for dollar i think they got a bit of a discount on cider both of them yeah yeah cider may be a little more but just given the nature of the unicorn of his position but whatever when i hear to talk about that i'm talking about the vibes d mac he drafts his guys they play well he locks them up onto the next one i drafted and the only difference is the only difference is the saint the nfl where you draft them in april and they're starting for in september it's not the way that it works d mac again i i hope that people i hope that red wing spans are able to get over the sting of not making the playoffs last year and really lock back into this team d meck because the foundation of everything is in place period and of story it's built to last d meck that's the moral of the story well that's the whole thing and that's what steve isman said that he is doing how he is building this team is to get back to the playoffs and always be back with the opportunity to win the cup so foundational pieces are becoming in place you're still you know you're still questionable to who's that goalie of the future but right now adding camp temple that camped out of it as i said at a 915 save percentage for his career makes you you know 0.15 from under under nine last year so i mean it's it's an improvement in goal-attending and that's what you needed the competition the intensity and stuff like this they know what they need they did it to themselves right like i said all summer long when they're looking at each other on the golf course or in the gym or on the ice they're saying you know we did the star cells because it goes back to the Arizona game so they're they're all prepared it's not going to be easy but um there's a lot of competition there and now more so than every all these guys that are have played you know are going to get this opportunity so is it time for a cast where danielson or amaze or you know or do we see solar balloon again there's a lot of guys we know johnny burger is going to get a chance you know what is uh what are some of the other guys you know going to get this opportunity so we'll see so the bottom line is who's going to make this team a production wise man the people are on fire in the chat about the wings i was going to go to the break but we got we got to address a couple of these things here let's go red wing sparti cider had nothing here when he when he showed up and was thrown to the wolves he was he was advancing gets a luxury of having cider here no he absolutely does sure i played his ass off at the end of the year last year like people forget about that and we were we were hard on him yeah you struggled for a little bit but at the end of the year he was our second best defense with uh d-mac will write off on this and i knew i knew the people couldn't resist so i'll toss him a bone here mike g d-mac is coach is coach lowline on the hot seat to make the playoffs next year no no he's on the hot seat i don't know because if you listen to steve iserman that his caught of everything else no it he's on the hot scene so steve says he's on the hot seat so i know there's no there's no hot seat like that it's more of a hot seat in how this team performed in place remember that one three one he was introduced in a couple years ago or whatever well we better be out seeing it in full display now so but i say no as as of right now not at all all right let's uh spendy let's 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he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like yeah you're playing your mic here got a little too excited yeah there we go good we back there we got our good we got so fun I'm saying I've looked no exactly screw your button broder putting that button Jack Fox let's go he's a fucking lap can I get a shirt button we weren't sure right not button but not button yeah fuck especially hearing Detroit Fox stop Jack Fox I'm gonna miss you Neil since you've been gold jacket loading pen a stool I've been Jack Foxes you're at is your best player he is he is so dependable right every time every freaking time whether he's sticking it in there whether whether hey Jack I need you to 25 pass yard out or over the middle of the road from your own 20 right oh yeah but not button broder get it straight yeah we got to make that a shirt that we got to get stick in here for that one yeah button not button and we got it back it says piss off Matthew yeah we got someone brought it along with me and then we need another shirt 11 and one 11 and one on the back it says piss off Hermione no I'm kidding I'm joking I'm joking I'm just joking with you um thanks Gus yeah no absolutely I'm not but no good for your shirt Woodward's sports chat thread jump into that um and get and get it out there everybody uh someone and it went by too fast so I didn't catch it somebody said uh Neil I got to be honest you're a lot to take most days but this Matthew Broder thing has me rolling that was really funny just just give me a just give me a couple of weeks I'll find an avenue off real you was in our chat this morning trying to find the angle I knew you was man though absolutely uh Ryan's reaction I think there's a legit argument Jack Fox is a best punter in NFL history and we had we had a lion's uh we had a lion's topic that's aggressive that we were gonna get to is it Ray guy that's aggressive let me just pull up these punts that's real quick um Red Wings fan club Fox will quote Fox will stick it in there for sure do you think other teams got a game plan for your for your punter or your punter hey like no because we run forth down and we run fakes and stuff like this like more so I I think you have to see it yeah gotta pay attention to it for sure no you you do um all right lion's thing I I need a wellness check on everybody we had we had Dr. Jeff Pierce come on yesterday and we we broke down the whole Frank Ragnow situation I think Doc Pierce and I are kind of in lockstep you will see Frank Ragnow again sooner rather than later yes maybe maybe not this week I wouldn't be surprised though but I would a I wouldn't be surprised yeah if you gave me good enough odds I would bet it but I think saying for the show again the Dallas saving for the boys so either way but DMACC let's all do a wellness check here are we worried about the injuries can we chat pull that just real cut and dry are you worried about the lion's injuries yes or no I keep going back and forth on a yeah I mean it's like it's always not a good thing but we said availability is a number one thing so I guess it would be to see what the severity is or you know who's gonna be playing but I bring it up all the time right Dan Campbell what did he say the first thing he realized he learned he had to prepare this team like he had to replace every starter so that's the case this is where it comes down to every team goes through it you just you know are these injuries things that if they play they could get worse that's what you don't want so I fully I think they're fully capable they're training staff and their doctors and everything out to make the best decision for you know the player and the team so I get in that sense I'm not worried but again I don't like to see guys going up on the injury report list they're getting knocked around or anything like that yeah that that worries me because that's if my team's healthy you can't beat me when they're not okay we're then then we're susceptible uh crazy clown Neil should debate broader one-on-one about who knows more about baseball sit sit him down sit him down he likes bunning so I already have a leg up on him right there uh what word sports chat thread uh top five situations Matt Broder called for bunting okay out let's break it down real quick top of the first inning lead off hitter Broder calls for a bun if he gets a hit second batter Broder calls for a bun if he gets if he gets on third hitter Broder calls for a bun you see what I'm saying here you know where I'm going with it um is there a top five today yes there is 1236 top five wing sauces electric and it's there's going to be a heated I have a hot take a lot of it I do you parmesan garlic people come on don't do that you parmesan garlic don't don't do that don't do that Neil we're gonna have a chat i already see where this is going yeah screw those guys i think you're outnumbered i think you're outnumbered i don't know i think it's even don't give me the depth there now don't give me the depth there now you are you are on an island mr Neil rules Neil be pointing his gun at you dude man just waiting to shoot Yosemite Sam over here what about you and the injuries you said you're back and forth the rag now one yes uh the davenport one like i i heard flannel sam uh spewing rhetoric this morning i now wake up what we're at eight to ten a.m where he was like uh the you give brad homes a pass for signing Marcus davenport and this is what happens flannel sam and people like flannel sam remember this Marcus davenport cost you less money than matt praider cost the cardinals it was a free spin it was always going to be a free spin any guy you win the history told you that it was probably going to end up like this it was a three million dollar spin on a buy low high return investment did he crap out yes he did was it totally do you think you think brad homes in the front office was like oh my god davenport got hurt i can't believe this you do you think brad homes in the front office was like that in no world were they it was a three million dollar free spin he cost less than a kicker in this league you see what i'm saying here this isn't a stunner to them they're not sitting it down there in alan park going i don't know what our next move is going to be like the overreaction to that was it was laughable to me dmak the davenport thing does not concern me at all because i bet you in their heart of hearts you knew by the contract and you knew by his resume they got to move up their sleeve i'm not concerned about that dmak they're going to people do people like what they've seen from lee vians arike do do people think that brad homes was sitting here going we're all in if this davenport thing doesn't work we're never going to win the super bowl do you think that dmak no not at all not first i was always it was sort he was like the manual moseley yeah of your d you know of your secondary where it was like it was the bonus of it worked out but odds are was it going to end up on the eye out no absolutely all larena rios neil getting granular again what's granular about that larena he costs less money than a kicker talk you shit neil like what's what's granular about that yeah it's a statement of fact suck it larena no i'm not saying that but you know it's been years though whatever uh it ch ch ch ch ch chef big time garlic parm is worse than dishawn Watson that's a strong statement but you know i see where you're working i mean and neil i do agree with you i can 100 percent like this freaking kettle corn bro or not kettle corn what's it yeah it uh what's it's don't work he don't get here he don't get here but neil just to push back a little bit because i totally agree with what you're saying they knew what they were getting into by doing this deal with him considering the the lengthy injury history that he had pause but um i just i i kind of want this to not so much be a strategy going forward though because when you look at what happened with markets that report you look at what happened with a manual mostly now twice um not to say you know that they shouldn't do this but the fact that you like to buy cheap you know get the injured player on a cheaper contract like you said a free roll essentially let's see what we have it has paid off sometimes but most of the time it hasn't so i don't know if i would make that a priority going forward if you catch my drift as far as like roster evaluation and going to get talent i wouldn't make that one of my primary moves because that seems to be something that he relies on a lot for me though if you're talking less money than a kicker no i get the potential i'll do it all the time i get it but look at the positions though like emmanuel moseley he was supposed to come in and possibly be your number one number two corner you look at markets davenport yes of course they knew about the injury history but you were kind of counting on him to be that starter guy on that opposite end of hutch these are two key positions that the lion's couldn't really afford to lose people at so that's all i'm saying just absolutely they were prepared for this but going forward i don't know if i want you to continue trying to use that strategy as one of your like top strategies to acquire players do we all understand d-mac that there's still angles to play there are still angles to play and we've seen we've seen the trade deadline become weaponized in the nfl absolutely this year i think you're going to see the trade deadline be along the lines of the hockey trade day or they may be able to take a new life force yes in the last few years in the nfl it is acted more like the hawk like like for years in the past growing up trade deadline didn't mean anything football bangles in three bangles zero and three and they have a top tier uh edrusher that's playing without a dealer right now yeah just saying it's facts just saying and he's friends with dj reader and he was in new orleans with dane campbell just saying until you're pointing out they left themselves open they have cap space in order to make a move if there is a move to be made so that's why i'm not necessarily worried about it but i was just talking about you know brad house philosophy okay i want to talk about the cap space thing for a second because i think this is important for the people to know and i haven't heard anybody talk about it because spenny's yelling at me to take the break right now i'm over and i you won't you were not going to hear this on the flagship or anything like that because nobody's that refined all right but there is something i do want to bring to like who far talk about it wait till we come back this would probably be a good angle for you guys to sit through this because i want to bring up something important with what i think the lions and it might shed some light out not 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y'all don't learn what what self-dump has some good times and war jack stark in the chat and this important oh Neil rule dara mccarty kg spencer raxter all of you appreciate all the new eyeballs on what word sports as well because we do football better than anyone and we're doing it right now as a matter of fact jack stark there's a reason brad has a ton of cap space right now he's been prepared and jack i i had somebody reach out on social media and ask me about that they're like Neil what's up with brad homes kind of leaving all this cap space on the table and there was something that i knew but i i didn't know the technicalities behind it did the room know that the cap space you have this year if you don't use it it slides over to next year you see what i'm saying like it's not just cap space for this year and if you don't use it it's gone right it slides over to the next year as well so that tells me you know what that tells me d meck and and we do this right and this is why i kind of got deep in the contract stuff because i feel it was an angle that's not covered in Detroit by anybody in the in the mainstream that you that you listen to it tells you what's going to happen next and what's going to happen next d meck with all that space the aid hutchinson deal is going to get done soon fact you feel me on this like that's that's what's going to happen and it could happen in the next off season as a matter i think so they have to so you see what i'm saying here they're going to be locking up the pillars but stay in mobile and it's something that we have discussed for a long time so if the people that reach out onto the socials why are they not using their cap space because you don't have to use it this year it carries over to next year and so if you had maybe a certain defensive end that you wanted to give a large block of money to there it is there it is everybody like it's pretty it's it's pretty evident what's going on to me it's pretty evident uh what were sports chat thread uh JP 17 i thought everybody knew that about the salary cap i knew it but i didn't know the technicalities behind it so i had to look into it you know what i'm saying so i don't and i'm not that's one thing i'm not going to do is just sit out here and just start talking to talk when i don't know what i'm talking about save that for the two to four show when they say Michigan's going to go 11 and 1 uh Steve and Baffy McDeal needs his deal or McNeil needs his deal too excellent point you see where we're going with this d-man yeah that's where we're going with it and that's why like the the the max Crosby people you know like give them i had my body terminal Dennis whatever it takes three first rounders whatever it's easy guy right easy lesson i do that whatever it takes guy whatever it takes like easy everybody like to check their crad i like to see where their credits right absolutely um but yeah so uh so it is i i think that that's what you're going to see um that guy up north who are the free agent defensive ends next off season we can do that show but we're not going to do that show today yes that's right i'd be more interested as you're looking in who are who are some of the guys that are coming into maybe that that at the trade deadline might be a piece that you could write so it's more of like as you see in other sports the sign and trade right and i say d meck i say all of that to say this i think this will be the year you brought up a name spenny down there in Cincinnati languishing away i think that this may be the year you see Brad Holmes dip his toe in the rental market yeah in the rental market no long-term contracts just let's go chase a super bowl for it's for you're going to be here for seven games hopefully nine hopefully ten you know what i'm saying d-man make a difference yeah and if the market conditions present themselves i think you could see that and what do i mean by that a distressed asset like spenny trey handrichson trey handrichson who is who is comfortable with people on the defensive line and the coaching staff like i said he was in New Orleans Dan Campbell played with uh DJ reader last year and he hasn't got a deal yet so i think that would be a good idea he's proven that he would play without his deal it's not like a son redick who's holding out and he won't play unless he gets signed trey handrichson's playing right now he's playing well he's already got three sacks on the season so sound like a damn camp we're gonna meet yes so that i think that and i'm not calling for it conditions gotta be right but that's why i like the guy that's in charge here d meck that's that's why i'm comfortable with him that's why i ride and it's not being a slap it's not being a simp look at where we were look at where we are oh he did say look at where we're going trey handrichson does have his deal that's my bad got his deal done in the off season yeah four years 60 million so 15 that's pretty very manageable that's pretty doable it's pretty manageable d meck that's what that's all i'm saying like i i think that this will be the year that we see him dip his toe in the market in the trade market i i stand on that i think so too because that's you know what also too you got to look around and see where we where are we planning on getting to we're talking about super bowl yeah so that means you're gonna do whatever it takes to finalize pieces and and that's why you've kept the you know versatility right that's the one thing too is they've they've remained versatile we see it so much in the NFL too as teams that sort of hamstring themselves either with a quarterback contract or different things like different things like that or having to have breaking news and this one is almost unbelievable yeah it's all about new customers at bet 365 because they get two hundred dollars in bonus bets when they bet five dollars and even better bonus bets can be used on the spread totals and player props there you have it bet five dollars to get two hundred dollars in bonus bet and see why it's never ordinary at bet basis five the gambling problem caller text went in hundred gambler 21 plus only must be physically located in colorado terms and conditions applied crossover to new possibilities with the first ever Buick Envista now with short line Buick refined versatile intuitive tech friendly cargo loving and best of all invista is fun to drive the flowing exterior of the invista is easy on the eyes and inside you will experience a quiet ride thanks to quiet tuning with active noise cancellation apple carplay android auto and wireless charging will keep you connected visit short line Buick today and experience all Buick has to offer in its new lineup of vehicles at short line you do the drive-in we'll do the rest the trade and the way to do it differently this Brad Hollandsway seems to be working because not only do you job guys that play you're also into re-signing some of your some of your same guys right wait no your mainstays hydrogen sign that deal a while ago next year is the last year of his deal who he is in limbo he has zero guaranteed salary for this year and next year who he is at 20 million in the cap this year and 18 million in 2025 so there you have it yeah which also goes to tell you too if that were an angle what you do then is you wait up until the deadline and let the bangles pay as much of that as possible yep that's the way this works there it's not something they're gonna do now i'm just telling you guys this this if they are gonna get involved with something like that it won't be until the deadline you have the bangles pay every single dollar that you can have them pay make sense right say to me uh somebody asked who are the edge free agents next year uh spot track has him listed as kaleel mac his son redick matt judon demarcus lorence josh sweat chase young uh etc i would i would uh i would trade for like i don't know i i know it's like hard for me to to say this because he has shown us that he's not going to do it throughout his years here brad home says but what has martha or i'm sorry she left forward ham dang Campbell brad homes aden hudginson amunrassane brown penne suel erin glad what have they all been saying in the off-season and so far this year super bowl super bowl super bowl win a super bowl if you're doing that trading for a guy like trei henderson is a win a super bowl move no doubt it just fits perfectly 0 and 3 bangles a guy that your coaching staff is already familiar with a guy that your defensive line members some of them had played with already like i think it would be amazing and spitty i gotta push back a little bit only because and i know i always say this it was leak last year that they did try to inquire about the kneel hunter that is true so this is not totally out of the room but possibility and he's cheaper than the kneel hunter yeah facts uh no absolutely uh willward sports chat thread i'm not interesting in taking ammo away from brad homes i am i am there will be a balance of both exactly i i'll take ammo away from brad homes to give ammo to erin glenn to win a super bowl this year i am comfortable in that and they're not going to handicap against super bowl team what's needed yeah you call it all stops so if it's taking away uh is brad homes you think is capable to adopting yeah i do but he's not going to compromise the future either like they're a smart enough franchise to know okay i'm not just going to eff them pics like the rams do they're going to keep something in the chamber but if there's a move to be made then he will look at that he will there it is so yeah um all right let's take the break come back top five top five top five yes sir five wing sauces kg don't start with me you don't want this smoke over here mr rule you're looking for a way out i'm not i'm right here at your doorstep i know you are kg what's up i gotta go the bathroom i'll be right back no i'm 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4 p.m on the woodward sports network look at this syrokes crispy chicken and pizzas debuting wings perfect timing on these reads but make sure you get some of that had the lemon pepper yesterday it was amazing they got buffalo they got seven different flavors for you to choose from limited time offers so grab the wings for football season while you can now to find a syrokes near you go to syrokes.com all right it is time everybody top five top five top five Wednesday why is it a top five spend month it's half as boring as a top 10 there you go absolutely Neil ruled their McCarty KG Spencer racks are all of you in the woodward sports chat thread jump in two there get your thoughts um we are going to do it i do have a request from one ryan let's okay he said going forward when we send him our top five list send him pictures to use as well okay he's running out of picture well not a d-mac obviously right cool d-mac find him get the images uh yeah send him a picture you want to do that he can find ones of me yeah that's easy enough that's fair enough fair enough um but yeah let's uh let's get into it we're gonna do the usual rotate there sounds good to me leading off Spencer Rachster from Michigan State University all right here we go top five wing sauces and this is the part of the reason why i just said that but top five ring wing sauces at number five i just got buffalo it's solid it's classic it's a staple anywhere you go any bar you order some buffalo wings they're probably gonna be good do you find yourself like when you go to a new place do you try do you just get buffalo first yes oh yes it's a good uh safety wing yes it's a control wing like you know what you're gonna get with buffalo at number four i got spicy sweet chili i love that you get a little spicy a little sweet it's good kang depends on where you get it from but i love me some sweet chili and number three i got caribbean jerk you know come on like the flavor the jerk wings wherever you get them go downtown get some real good ones i love jerk wings you can't go wrong with that number two mango habanero undefeated it's just it's nice and spicy you got the sweetness of the mango in there as well and then at number one breaking news coming in from bet 365 where every nail biting over time win breakaway pick six three point shot underdog win buzzer beater shoot out walk off and absolutely every play in between is amazing from football the basketball and hockey to baseball whatever the moment it's never ordinary at bet 365 gambling problem caller text 1 800 gambler 21 plus only must be physically located in colorado you click on clave is designed to make together your favorite place to be with an abundance of thoughtful features like the hands-free power lift gate and with generous space for up to seven your family will agree time spent together inside this SUV is time well spent on clave gives connectivity a starring role your family will stay connected to the world even when you were on the move experience bewick on clave today at short line bewick 1301 south of anna street you do the drive in we'll do the rest it's the classic it's the staple again if you get it anywhere you want it's going to be good no matter where you are it's honey barbecue there it is all right you got a lot of similarities yeah rock solid i noticed d-match you notice in spennies list there there's a good mix of sweet and hot that seems to be the sort of like that's you know what spenny's made that's spending his course sweet and hot there it is thanks to the personality i guess a lot a lot of love for kribby and jerk kara kribby and jerk solid man what rock solid oh you're gonna see kribby and jerk representing all right well batting second yes sir gee gee wow out the part baby all right so shout out to my nephew kairi who was in the picture with me that was our first wings game but at number five asian zing i love me a good asian zing from vdubs man i don't know what it is about that sauce but it's addictive can we look at them wrapping their wings that's yeah oh yeah that was the first wings game ever man yeah man that's on the joluus steps too so rip joluus can we since we're talking about it you brought it up yeah can we just all admit that it's a good thing for buffalo wild wings that they have the sauces because without the sauces they ain't pack a mess that is a pack of ass yes without the sauce the sauces are elite no they are so yeah asian zing at number five number four sweet chili i feel like this sauce is kind of slept on spin he had it on his list but a lot of people sleep on sweet chili man it's not really not in the conversation typically yeah but it's a really good sauce though especially if you get it from certain places at number three karaby and jerk we just discussed it karaby and i'm i'm a big fan of jamaican food i gotta get karaby and jerk you can throw that on salman you throw it on chicken it don't matter man the jerk is good on anything pause um at number two the one you was giving me the depth there about garlic parmesan kitty kick it now you can get you can get this dry rub but you can also get this in a wet sauce as well pause so garlic parm is one of my favorite flavors of chicken you can't go wrong with it i've never had a bad garlic parm wing never ever and probably won't so and at number one hot wings i'm a big fan of hot wings i would probably make it halfway through that hot ones show uh that that everybody tries the wings on i make it about halfway um but yeah i love me a good hot wing don't matter you know for wherever since the moment of truth is here d-mac is garlic parm on your list is it on your list just yeah it is okay it's just then out of respect i'll let we'll go through your list and then i will address the garlic parm situation okay fair please do and i need to see what you'll be on my list it's only number one yeah it's only yeah let's go back and start at five though traditional voxels yeah give the back to depth there here yeah you like i'll do that stuff like this big fan of teriyaki yeah teriyaki sonorable micha you put it like teriyaki wing asian zing saw you both right there my dog my dog spending also number two on my list little sweet little hot little mango habanero can't go wrong and number one number one all day log kenny sorry niel on this one sir we have found where you are incorrect garlic parmesan is number one this is why matt got his car before you slap a guard this is exactly why before i got you kenny yes the garlic parm thing here's the deal i will say this one garlic parm wing is pretty good however garlic parmesan is the donuts of chicken wing tosses i disagree one is good the second one it's okay the third one you're like oh this is too much it depends on where you get it from it is really salty it's super salty dude and it's just it's diminishing returns it gets worse as it goes and i think nothing is more overrated than garlic parmesan wings nothing the salt just again how it gets worse as you go i never understood that that is true i will give you that i couldn't sit there and eat a whole basket of garlic parmesan is y'all crazy y'all crazy y'all crazy it depends on where you get them from but no it doesn't i found that it doesn't okay i found that it i did we respectfully disagree so i converted one of you there you go yeah wasn't on my list there you go absolutely so i wait to quote the great sam flannel i win you lose psych it's 50 50 split the room the rooms hey brady trench brady garlic par what's your feelings on garlic par you happen to mash here real quick hurry up my father my feelings on garlic parm are every time i eat it there's always way too much sauce on that wing that's the other part of it i have to scrape it off it's the only sauce that i have to scrape it off because there's so much of it left because people think that a lot of people get it but they don't it's like the candy corn thing it's not like candy corn it's it's edible it's right don't you dare compare that to candy corn don't don't disrespect i agree i'm i'm i i 100 agree with your take kneel that you can't just eat 15 garlic parm wings that's aggressive y'all wow i'll take like three of them in a sampler platter but come on uh ryan's lions uh watch my list all right here we go uh mine it better be good wings sauces at number five blue cheese you can make it work with the um wing yeah with a plain wing now see we agree i like blue cheese he hates it but at we we on the same page well it takes slept on it takes class to like blue cheese it does you know it's a different it's not for everybody uh number four regular ass barbeque like that's just like it just works regular ass barbeque regular ass barbeque it's all reliable you could just buy some some sweet baby rays throw them on there yep regular ass barbeque it's all reliable kind of kind and this one is climb my list quickly Nashville hot i know it's trendy i know that it's new you know it's new money wing sauce it's good oh dimak i'm in my thing where if i go to a spot and they have Nashville hot i'm giving it a spin i don't usually give it a spin because i don't eat wings a ton so when i do i want to stick with what's reliable you know what i'm saying like i want what i want and that's it because i don't eat a ton of them but if they got Nashville hot i'm stepping in there much like we said number two regular ass buffalo you can't mess it up you can you can get the true measure of a place's wings by regular ass buffalo wings that's it and it's it's good because it's a sauce but it's versatile because it works in ranch if that's your thing blue cheese if that's your thing just the regular ass buffalo sauce if that's your thing too this is where i'm i'm debating you number one uh ryan's lions nobody has spicy garlic sauce i do ryan's lines number one it's absolute number one it's what i learned on it lucky for buffalo wild wings they have spicy garlic sauce they've got nothing else to me they have nothing else their food sucks they yes yeah i'm just saying they got a little bit of a sponsor but their foods their sauces are good but their wing the wing quality is terrible absolutely went down in recent but the spicy garlic sauce is electric and lucky for you you can get it in the store so so that's it the garlic taste is what makes it salty so if you can't deal with garlic parm why can't you deal with spicy garlic that makes no sense because there's a because there's a flavor to it there's a spicy and a garlic flavor to it it's not just salt overriding you now it's not easy to promise i'm not giving you the salt though it's the garlic but after the after you eat 12 of them you won't notice it in breaking news and this one is almost unbelievable yeah it's all about new customers at bet 365 because they get $200 in bonus bets when they bet five dollars and even better bonus bets can be used on the spread totals and player props 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get it after but you don't get it when you eat it that's a difference it does balance a little better yes all right let's take the break in the meantime drop a top five list in the chat we'll come up with next week yep why should i why should we think about it right i'll do it for us put them after you eat some garlic or some spicy garlic wings where you got to go to work it off well i i can't right after because you're gonna how you're gonna run on the treadmill i go ahead a bg yes five or six thousand milligrams literally me yesterday after eating sorokies oh my god i was on that treadmill i'll struggle it but hey the next day you know where i'm tapping back into plantar fitness everybody it's the best gym in the gym game it's one of the best values in american consumerism black card option 2499 a month you get access to every planet fitness in the world over 2,600 of them i like top five milks yeah planet fitness we're live at the planet fitness studios they got a sleek little app 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kilo you know yes well that we're still gathering information all right right we need more of that release uh top five chat members ws in top five right is reaction we did top five smells we did top five smells yeah grad cut grass was really high and everybody's left yeah it was pretty cool top five get rights top five movie genres top five moments we thought the tigers were dead oh i like this top top five milk top five road trip snacks that is a good one that's a good one all right we end d mac you're in you're big you're big road trip snacks road trip snacks a whole that is a lock that is a lock all right we're in top five road trip road trip is snack uh top five nuts those are i i almost died on a road trip one time of heartburn because i had a concoction of we're eating salt and vinegar kettle cooked chips which is fine on its own it's fine on its own and and then we stopped at the jerky outlet and i ate a jalapeno pickled egg oh my god which was really good he was asking for it and then my boy had this super spicy like turkey jerky and he was like pack it like a lip and just put it in your god oh what's a hill and i did it it was really good but i literally felt like it was like mount Vesuvius just build this oh god i was like i need thumbs luckily my boy had some thumbs because i was it would have been bad like i literally felt it building it was scary my life flash before my eyes i did that up at the guy's golf trip one time um if we were we were getting ready to play and it started raining like rain and raining yeah like even d-mac wouldn't play in this rain raining and d-mac will play in anything i won't but he will and it started raining so we went to the bar and it was breakfast so i had a bloody mary and then i had another bloody mary and then i had a third bloody yeah i know that story and that was that was too many of it uh i have a picture that the guy's just sent me today you want me to send that over today number that's way totally yeah i'll drop it in the chat um but it's like i will i will right now um but yeah uh i don't advise it's funny that they sent this picture today and this topic came up i don't advise ever having more than two bloody marys i just don't but um it got to the point where the heartburned spenny was so bad that i was unable to eat the rest of the day oh my god i've been there before yeah you know what i'm talking about like that kind of heartburn um but but d-mac it was rough man all right i've never seen rain that heart either you would not have played did you put in slack i did yep it should uh it should be in there all right both tigers yeah absolutely uh d-mac you got to see this picture though like this is this is what it led to that day this picture is from that day that i just brought up so it is something he's working on it it's it was the actually they turned this picture into the logo for the following year so no yes you look defeated in that picture you do and i was only halfway through jesus 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