The Philadelphia #Eagles fall to 1-1 after losing to the Atlanta #Falcons 22-21 on Monday Night Football. Was Nick Sirianni, Kellen Moore's decision to throw on third down after the Falcons used their final timeout a correct call? And how did Atlanta march down the field so effortlessly to win the game? Plus, the Phillies fall to the Milwaukee Brewers last night 6-2, as the Magic number to win the #nleast remains at 5.
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Run or Pass? Philadelphia Eagles lose 22-21 to Atlanta Falcons on last minute Drake London TD
The Philadelphia #Eagles fall to 1-1 after losing to the Atlanta #Falcons 22-21 on Monday Night Football. Was Nick Sirianni, Kellen Moore's decision to throw on third down after the Falcons used their final timeout a correct call? And how did Atlanta march down the field so effortlessly to win the game?
Plus, the Phillies fall to the Milwaukee Brewers last night 6-2, as the Magic number to win the #nleast remains at 5.
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If you're listening a little bit later on our podcast stream, hello, we're brought to you by Bedparks. But now I get to get it off my chest because that was, I was an epic collapse, that was an all-time, disappointing ending. I still don't know how they lost the game. I mean, I know how they lost the game, but I don't know how they lost the game. So everybody is going to, and we'll see how everything transpires today. But it feels like the big story of the game, or the big story of the game is, Nick Siagani's decision to throw the ball on third down and then kick a field goal, allowing the Atlanta Falcons admitted in 46 seconds left to go down and score a touchdown. And I agree that that is one of the biggest, or the biggest pivot point of the game, where I disagree is that it was a terrible decision and something that Nick Siagani shouldn't have done and it's coaching malpractice, and he should be fired in higher bill Belichick right now, and he's a horse's ass, and what is he doing? So let me be clear about this. I'm not telling you that it isn't a nice healthy debate on whether or not Nick Siagani should have just ran the ball. They have no timeouts left. If you don't pick up the first down, then you wind down the clock, you cook a field goal, and Atlanta has probably a little bit less than a minute to go to score a touchdown. I'm not telling you it's not a good debate, 'cause it is. But it's also now outrageous to do what Nick Siagani did, which was, hey, look at the defense they're playing. Hey, look at the play that we can run, and if we get a first down, the game's over. And guess what happened? They actually called the perfect play. They executed the play perfectly. It was right there. It was the easiest play of the game, and Saquon Barkley dropped it. He catches the ball, he goes down immediately. Even if he runs out of bounds, Falcons can't stop the clock, games over. It's over. So the Eagles actually called the right play, because if Saquon Barkley catches a routine, ball that's five yards away, perfectly thrown by Jalen Hertz, the game is over. Now, like I said, I don't know if I would've went for it like Nick Siagani did. I don't know. I probably would've ran it in that spot and make them beat you with less than a minute to go. But again, it's not outrageous what Nick Siagani did. It's not one of these moves where you're watching the game and you're like, what is he doing? This makes no sense. He has no clue what he's doing. No, like it actually was a play call that would've worked if it wasn't for the drop. Now, on that play, if the throw's not there, Jalen Hertz has the option to try to run for it, or he can just go down and you still have the timeout, you still are able to preserve the clock. It didn't work. Saquon Barkley dropped it. But from there, you allow the Falcons to march down the field. And by the way, even if the Falcons had 55 seconds left to go in the game, who's saying that they wouldn't have driven down to score a touchdown? It took them four plays. And by the way, they were kind of taking their time going up to the line on one or two of those plays. I thought they would even run the ball, which I would've considered doing because they were gonna give the Eagles too much time on the clock to come back down and win the game with a field goal. So that's where I'm going next. And I haven't heard a lot of people talking about this today. And I'm probably more pissed about this play than anything else that happened last night. Jalen Hertz's decision to throw the ball on the game, the game ending interception was inexplicable. I understand what he's doing. They're in a set, they're feeling desperation. He's trying to make a play. He had pressure on him. He actually got hit soon after getting rid of the ball, right? You have to look at the situation. The Eagles are at the 43 yard line, their own 43 yard line. If that ball is thrown out about and it's incomplete, they have 19 seconds left, 19 seconds left and two time outs. You're at the 43 yard line, your own 43. If you get 14 yards, that's a 60 yard field goal for Jake Elliott. If you get 20 yards, you know where I'm going here, you're putting yourself in field goal range relatively easy. You have 19 seconds, you have two time outs. You don't have to call a timeout right there because the ball is incomplete. He really didn't have many places to go with the ball, but throw it out of bounds. There was pressure coming on him. I'm not telling you that it's not a difficult decision in that moment. You can't loft the ball like that to the Vante Smith. Jesse Bates came right up. He was playing the back of it, boom, came up right up and intercepted it. Even if he wasn't there, it would have been an incompletion. You can't make that throw. I'm sorry, I've seen Patreville Holmes too many times with 30 seconds left in the game, 20 seconds left in the game. I've seen Josh Allen, 30 seconds left in the game. You need to go 30 or 40 yards to get in field goal range, doing it rather easy. They had three time outs left and plenty of time left in the game. I wasn't freaking out when the Falcons scored that touchdown because to me, you get the ball at the 30 yard line, which is the new place you get the ball because everybody's still kicking the ball out of the end zone. You get the ball at the 30 yard line. You literally need to go, what, 30 yards to get into a very makeable field goal for Jake Elliott? You don't make that throw. That's the game. That's a bigger play in the game than Nick Siriani deciding to go for it or deciding to throw the ball on third down. Sorry, it's a bigger mistake. That was a mistake. He goes to the one that game last night. Forget about everything that happened before that. You need to get 20 yards there. You have two time outs. You have 19 seconds and you win the game. If Jake Elliott misses the field goal, he misses the field goal, but you put him in that position. Is there a more clutch kicker in the NFL? There's some clutch kickers in the NFL. Jake Elliott's right at the top of that list. Tyler Zouli as I bring you in to try to figure this out. I know that I'm going to be, I would say the majority of the people are going to blame Nick Siriani and the decision to pass the ball. And again, I think it's a debate. I do. I can totally see running the ball and not throwing the ball. If there is a minute left to go in the game and not a minute 50 left to go in the game, I think he runs the ball. Cause then you can run the clock down to 20 seconds or 15 seconds. There was just enough time to where they looked at it and said they're still going to get the ball back with plenty of time. And they did. And they did. What's your reaction to everything? Yeah, morning. Very morning. Cause it's not good. It's definitely not a good morning. So morning, here we are on a Tuesday. Didn't think that this would go this way. We talked about it yesterday. Thought it would be a close game. But I think both of us had picked the Eagles to win. I think there's a lot of blame to go around. You could talk and I think the low hanging fruit, the easy talking point is the decision to run versus the decision to pass and whatnot. I think you're justified. It's justifiable to say it was a bad decision at the time, chew up the clock that cause then if you are going to kick the field goal, then you've chopped off another 46 47, you know, the 40 plus whatever it takes to kick the field goal, the five, six, seven seconds. You're justified in that sentiment. You're also justified in the sentiment that say, Juan Barkley needs to catch that pass and hit him in the hands. And he had space to maneuver. He would have picked up a first down. They win that game. And so you're justified in that as well. The reason they lost this game to me was after all of this, your offense left the field with a six point lead. They shouldn't have had to leave the field, but they did leave the field with a six point lead. Your defense got torched by Kirk Cousins on the final drive of the game because they were too soft. They were too lax. The coverage was, I understand playing off coverage. You don't want to get beat over the top. But in, in, in this scenario for me, you lose this game because all game long, you got no pressure on a guy who is a concrete statue in the pocket. He can't move. His knee is still not right. You can tell it's not right. And he picked you apart, standing still on that final drive. It was a long standing issue of zero pass rush. Milton Williams had the first sack of the game. What was it midway through the second quarter? It was in a big spot too, because Atlanta was driving. Sure. And that's your boy, Milton Williams. I was thinking, you're, you're a guy. That's my guy. Right. So here's the thing. Outside of that, Brice Hough, once again, non-existent, Joshua, non-existent, the pass rush just wasn't there. So all of these things add up to why they lost the game. But if you're saying to me, pinpoint one particular moment, I don't think the defense was particularly, uh, that was, was strong in the, in, in the pass rush whatsoever. And when you leave the field with the lead, at least there's some semblance of, of hope to say, get off the field. Get a stop. Get off the field. Get a stop. They need a touchdown. Get a stop. All of these things circle up into a loss. Yep. They're all the blame. Yep. And it's disappointing. And Tyler's going to play some sound here coming up in a second. It's disappointing because this is kind of the way that I felt at the end of last year. And we're all Vic Fangio's going to solve everything. Don't be growing Vic Fangio. You need players in this league, everybody. 152 rushing yards for the Falcons last night, 5.4 yards a carry. Now in two games, they've given up 316 rushing yards, 6.5 per carry in those games. Josh, what Bryce Huff, Nolan Smith, Brandon Graham have no sacks, sweats. The only guy that you even notice on the field, and I, I love Brandon. I'm friends with Brandon is, you don't even notice the other guys, honest to God. Going back to last year, Eagles, Ed Rogers have four sacks in their last 10 games. I'm reading from, from, from, from Ruben here, from Rube, three by a son, Reddit, one from Brandon Graham. So again, last 10 games, their Ed Rogersers have four sacks, ones by Brandon, three spy guy. That's not here anymore. None in the last six games, six games without a sack by an Ed rusher has, has, has, Bryce off of the other reason you notice him is because he wears zero because he produces zero. Seriously, maybe he should change his number because he's living up to his jersey number, which is a zero. Um, Joshua, Brandon Graham, Nolan Smith, Bryce Huff had one quarterback hit. No sacks. No tackles for losses. Zero passes defended last night, zero, no penetration, no push, missed tackles on the second level. But they don't even get me as angry as the Philly dogs. Oh, I heard all about the Philly dogs. Oh, how he rose. I mean, let's go, let's just go draft, oh, George's defense, one of the best defenses of all time. Let's just go draft everybody from the, from the defense. Meanwhile, the Kobe deans look like the best player of that draft, which we never thought we'd say before. So this is, this is last night. Jordan Davis, Jalen Carter, Nolan Smith, this is through two games. Two solo tackles, one quarterback, hurry, no sacks. Jalen Carter and 46 snaps last night had one tackle. Bryce Huff and 32 stats last night, if you look at the box score, Tyler, guess whose name you don't see in the box score. Cause you have to have a freaking stat to make the box score. No stats for Bryce Huff, Jordan Davis, two tackles, Brandon Graham, 28 snaps, no stats. Milton Williams, productive, 25 snaps, one sack, one tackle for a loss. Nolan Smith, one tackle. How about this, Booker, I didn't even know who Booker was, Booker, Thomas Booker, the fourth played nine snaps at defensive tackle, had three freaking solo tackles and two tackles for a loss. You've seen him more. You've noticed Booker more than any of the first round draft picks from the frickin University of Georgia and you'll wonder why this defense isn't very good right now. This is a problem. This defensive line is a real problem. And I think Jalen Carter is still very talented. Listen, he didn't do much in the last of the second half of last year and rookie, rookie wall, whatever. Hey bro, we're through two games. You haven't done squat Jordan Davis is a problem. And when you look at the rushing numbers, he's drafted to anchor your line to be your nose tackle to where you can't run like that on the Eagles defense. So if they're running on you, Oh, that's a big miss. That's a big miss and they've missed. They have Eagles linebacker Devin White was a healthy scratch last night. That was a $3 million player by how he roseman scratch. The Kobe's playing well, he's playing pretty well, but still that's $3 million that is a healthy scratch last night. Unacceptable. I had said this yesterday and listen, Tyler, I'm not one to pat myself on the back. I'm not going to do a Barry Horowitz, but I had said on yesterday's show that if they don't get a pass rush on Kirk cousins, they will lose the game. And it took right up to the very frigging end where they kept giving them opportunity after opportunity, no pass rush on Kirk cousins. Big drive four plays, boom, games over what game really wasn't over, but they took the lead right there. You know, we use that. I kind of jokingly, but semi serious use that phrase a lot. Like the concrete quarterback, right? The guy that can't get out of the pocket can extend. It's got a footstone feet. You know, and more times than not, it's hyperbole, right? Because guys are the guys that maybe aren't fleet of foot. Most of them, you know, I think can do a decent job. The good, the good quarterbacks who are slow is what I'm trying to say. So like Kirk cousins prior to the injury does a decent job of being able to manipulate the pocket a little bit. Last night, Kirk cousins had no pocket manipulation ability whatsoever though. He would drop back and he would stand there. It was like watching a college quarterback who would drop back, go to one read, two read throw to ball, get the ball out of your hands, slant route, quick out, all this kind of stuff. He did a nice job a couple of times of extending the plate just enough to get by, but he was, he had zero ability to maneuver and manipulate and extend the pocket. And he basically was allowed a fresh pocket for a majority of the game last night because they got no pass rush. And listen, the Atlanta Falcons offensive line is good. I'm not going to say it's not. They've got a bunch of former first round picks, a bunch of guys that have come together nicely over the last couple of years. It's a decent offensive line. You can't get nothing on this quarterback. Just assume that your front four is going to get home. And then when it doesn't never adjust to bring any extra help. Nope. Fagio. He's not a, he's not a blitzer. I mean, the Eagles, I'd ask him for a blitz or I'm asking for somebody to send a fifth guy. But a lot of people, and I, I agree with you, I don't need a zero blitz, right? But you need to be creative in how you're trying to get to the quarterback, especially when you're not getting the quarterback. But fan, this is the fan geo style. People bits, Jonathan Gannett, Seth Joiner, everybody else, you need the blitz. You need the blitz. The Eagles don't want to play a defense that blitzes. They just don't, or they will hire a coordinator that likes to blitz. Fagio is not a big blitzer. All right. This is the defense. This is what they want to play. This is the defense that that how he rose when in the organization want to play so you can complain. They don't play it. You can yell at Vic fan geo. Fine. Y'all blame the organization because this is the kind of defense that they want to play. Um, so let's go to Tyler here because I know we have a bunch of sound here and this is just going to be, um, it's going to be before we do that. Like we have to. Yeah. But so Syrian has an explanation to everything. And let me bring this up and then we'll, we'll go to you and we'll play some sound here. I honestly, I don't think it was a bad coaching job last night by next year and I really don't. There weren't, they didn't waste timeouts. There wasn't a bunch of mental mistake penalties. I wish they would have kicked the field goal early. I would have kicked the field goal early, right? I agree with him. I would have taken the points. I would have taken the points and I thought it was a mistake. I did. The analytics, which is what the Eagles employ, which is again, what the organization wants to do leans that you go for it right there. And when it doesn't work, then it goes on the head coach and it didn't work. If say, Quan Barkley catches that ball right now, are we bitching this morning? We're probably kind of breathing a sigh of relief, but we're talking about how good this team is at what's, that's why I think we're doing. We're not worried about all this other stuff that next year, Yani did. If say Quan Barkley catches the ball. We're not talking about this. If Jalen hurts, doesn't throw the ball up for grabs, we might have a game winning field goal. And we're in here being like, Jay Goey, who's, who's more clutched than Jay Kelly, right? But because, so again, him going for it on fourth down and you look at it, honestly, my bigger issue with that whole situation was the play calling. So they're first intended to 15, say Quan Barkley on that drive and I'm talking about the drive where they elected to go for it and not kick the field goal. So this is the drive, they start off at the 36, say Quan Barkley nine yards, say Quan Barkley nine yards, say Quan Barkley 10 yards, say Quan Barkley 11 yards, your first intended to 15 yard line. All right. That's by the way, that's 39 yards on four plays. Any, any was, and they were, I think they're all inside runs 39 yards and they were marching down the field, your first and 10 at the Atlanta 15. I know you just hear you say Quan a bunch. So they give, they give them a breather there, right? Why is Kenny game well in the game, getting two straight carries. Why is Kenny game well on this team? Why is Kenny game well on first down from the 15 yard line, getting up a carry? Why is Kenny game well on second down, getting another rush, setting up a third and four? You know why? Because they knew they were going to go for it, a third and four incomplete and then fourth and four. And I hated the play on third and four because you knew what was coming. It was going to be a pass play. You knew what was coming. You had nowhere to go with it, a bunch of inexperienced wide receivers. It's so difficult to throw the ball like that when you get closer because there's not as much space, third and four. And then that sets up the fourth and four, which I mean, like whatever didn't work. They didn't have, they didn't have open receivers on it. The drive was lost. That drive was lost. Kenny game well, two rushes on first and second down Tyler. I hated it. I hated it. I get, I get not, you know, barkly just round the ball four straight times for 40 yards. He's probably gassed. He needs a little bit of a breath. I get it. Game well, I think is productive in the pass game. I'm not sure in that spot. First down, I don't have an issue with it with the run. And he got four yards on first. Yeah. So if you get four yards on first down, you set up second and six. You're ahead of the sticks. You've got your entire playbook to work with the second, the second run, a little bit questionable. I agree with you. Third down call was the worst of the four and I think that you go from being ahead of the sticks, you know, cause if you run the ball twice for three more yards, each, you know, a three yard and a three yard, you just got to first down. You just reset the clock, reset the, reset the marker. I didn't love getting in the ball the second straight time. I think you want to maybe spread it out a little bit, but I think on that drive particularly, you saw the absence of a J Brown being significant. Yes. Agreed. Now, I, I, and you saw that. I mean, really you saw that all night and he's going to be out for multiple weeks, according to the report, which sucks. Um, yeah, if Seguan Barkley is not in, in good enough shape to be back out on the field and these big fat offense, Lyman are out there, one blocking all these places. You're telling me you need to put Kenny Gainwell out there over Seguan freaking Barkley. Like, Oh my God, dude, I, I, my head was exploding when it happened. All right. 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Give me one second. Yeah. Sure. Well, we can do Barkley too. I mean, the, the, like, I, I'm not like when I, I come out and I'm like, yeah, say what you can't, you have to catch that like he's still a good player and I don't like hate him or anything like that. But like sometimes players fail and he dropped the ball last night. Here's Nick Siriani after the game. We wanted to, they were, they were running a certain defense and they're, uh, junking it up in the middle. Um, so we're trying to go on the round the outside and, uh, you know, it didn't work. What was your, uh, salt pattern there on, on going, uh, kicking children, or, as you think about going forward? Um, you know, again, in that scenario, uh, I was thinking they might not have any time outs there, but obviously they did with, with the, uh, with the incomplete pass. Um, you know, that would have, that, that would have came down to maybe a minute. Um, and so we wanted to go up six points, um, you know, and it didn't work. So, um, you know, my, the decision to pass it there, um, again, like I said, you know, what they were chunking it up inside with it being fourth and three to go for it. I thought, um, you know, with them not having any time outs, I wanted them to be down a touchdown and, and, uh, see if they could drive the field and, and they did. NBC Sports Philadelphia with that sound. Thank you very much over there. Um, yeah, I mean, I, nothing to be said right now, maybe think that, uh, Nick Siriani is a total ass. He explained that's, you may disagree with what they didn't and like, I, I, and I understand that I probably would have ran the ball there, but the play that they called actually worked. They thought they were going to get this, this, you know what happens at the end of the games. It's, it's fairly obvious that they're going to run the ball because they're trying to chew up the clock. The other team has no time outs left, but the game's over if you get a first down. So could you have ran for the first down? Yeah, you could have, but if they're putting 10 guys to stop you from running for a first down, then what? Um, so they actually called the perfect play Tyler again. I, I, I think it's, I think it's, it's a good debate whether or not he should, he should have ran it or not, but I don't think he sounds like an ass. No, I think that you're right at some point, like a team stacks the box. You understand that like, okay, because obviously numbers wise, right? The quarterback's not blocking running back has the football. So that's one less body, you know, helmet on helmet. So effectively you, when you hand the ball off, you're looking at an 11 on 10 with the 10th guy being the runner, right? At some point, the numbers say this is a stacked box. We can't, we can't manipulate this. We can't, we can't win this, this particular matchup. So I get it. Um, I, I think all of us, you know, playing Monday, you know, Monday night armchair quarterback Tuesday morning armchair quarterback would have run the football in that situation. However, uh, I think that it, it was a design that worked for sure in, you know, as it's developing and that ball gets caught probably, I don't know, Barkley catch up all 98 out of a hundred times, you know, ask giant fans, they'll tell you differently, but yeah, well, so some, some people up in giant sports media land are having a field day with this. It was the Super Bowl last night, but, but I, I think that the design was not flawed. Um, you, he catches that ball. You win the football game. Um, it wasn't crazy. Here's the bottom line. It did work. It didn't work. Things don't work. The head coach is going to, is going to catch it, especially a head coach that doesn't call plays. And now it's going to do it or whatever. Um, let's, let's hear from say one Barkley after the game. He catches it. It's over. He knows that he's not making any excuses here. Just say one out to the game. And I'm going to be a professional athlete and go back to drawing boards and take the way, move on and get better from them. I've made that play multiple times. I missed that play before too. He's, if he's doing something similar and week eight, I'm probably going to be more angry at him. reality is that if you catch that ball, the game's over. Everybody knows that, but is that the reason they lost the game? It's one of the reasons they lost the game. Yeah. But you put yourself in a position to where you couldn't make a mistake. Bottom line. Man, like I want to play the, the blame game here. Like who do people blame the most for this loss and who are you most aggravated at for this loss? Tyler, I am, I am, I am so angry at how he roseman right now. And if I'm playing the blame game, he's not number one on the list. But the fact that this defense sucks, like I almost put D line slash how he roseman. This is his defensive line. Bryce Houghs making $17 million a year. These three first round draft pick defensive lineman are having no impact at all. No impact. This is what they have. Bryce Hough was, Bryce Hough was your replacement for a son retic. He's going to be primarily your best pass rusher. And it hasn't worked through two weeks. Not only hasn't it worked, they've given you zero on the defensive line. I'm so aggravated to how he roseman in this defense. Yeah. Understood. I think mine extends a little bit in the, in a similar vein. It's, it's Vic Vangio for me. Now listen, Vic Fangio is not out there, you know, in the trenches, trying to get a pass rush. You know, so I, I get the, it's kind of the same thing about like, if a hitter strikes out in a specific spot, was it the right call by the manager to pinch it? You know what I mean? It's always going to be the player versus the coach conversation. Fangio brought no pressure yesterday at all. I keep coming back to it. And I understand I sound like a broken record at eight 33 in the morning, but it frustrated me endlessly last night that this team was not able to get home to put some kind of pressure in Kirk cousins face. He was standing still throwing passes and he was connected with guys because he was having time to get rid of the football. Right. So to me it's, it's Fangio's play calling. It's an extension. So it's a combination of Fangio's play calling and the front four not getting home almost at all. I did this earlier and I, and I forgot to follow up on it. Some quarterbacks are just going to get rid of the ball. So you may look at the box score and be like, well, they didn't get a sack all night, but they're literally just dumping or checking down because they're worried about the pass rush. Cousins really isn't that guy. He'll hold the ball. Now he'll, he'll get rid of the ball, but he'll hold the ball when he's trying to make a play down the field. We've seen it too many times where that's where he makes the boneheaded throw, right? There's guys out there that are just, you're not going to hit him because they're getting rid of the ball. They're not the case last night. They couldn't get him off a spot. You got to get guys off their spot and make like Kirk cousins will hold the ball and we'll make poor decisions. They didn't do that to him last night. They didn't do it last night. They didn't. So how he roseman in the defensive line in the defense is number one on my list last night. Number one on my blame game list. Number two, as I pull it up here is Jalen hurts. You can't do that at the end of the game. I'm going to praise Jalen before the end of the show, I promise because I thought he had a good game. I say in that situation, we've seen the elite quarterbacks in the NFL with 22nds, 30 seconds and 40 seconds to go in the game. All you need is 30 yards. J Kelly, it misses a long field goal. He misses a long field goal. It is unacceptable and it's and honestly, I can't believe it that they didn't, they didn't get with that much time left to go in the game that they didn't actually have a shot at a field goal or at least something for the answer. There's no reason to make that throw right there. No reason. First and 10 at the Eagles 43 yard line. First and 10 Eagles 43 yard line, gutter gets a big chunk. Come on. And I asked the Cubs to come in and try to help me with this because I'm not handling this well this morning, Anthony, there's a lot of blame to go around and we've assessed it. You, Jaylen doesn't need to throw the ball up right there. No. And I know that he was being pressured on the plate. You still have timeouts. Two timeouts. Yeah. You still have timeouts and all you need 14 yards to get to a 60 yard field goal, right? With Jake Elliott makes rather routinely to get a shot. You know, it's weird. It's like he gives off the game. He's done that before where the end like at the end of it, let me just throw it up and hope something happens. Instead of trying, like, you can't work the middle of the field just 22 seconds. You have time to work the middle of the field, but again, it's the middle of the field and we don't go in the middle of the field. Two timeouts. I, I, I figured it out. I went back and watched it. The ball fell incomplete with 19 seconds left or it was intercepted with 19 seconds left. So if he, and he was getting pressured, the Eagles didn't handle that stunt well all night long where the defensive tackle was coming around, Lander Dick is shucking up, got beat on the play. He got hit as he threw it. That's an easy throw the ball away because you got to see the safety that's going to come up and, and jump in front of it, which he did. The ball would have been incomplete, but it would still, it's a dangerous throw. The vante wasn't anywhere near it. My God. It's a horrible throw. It's a horrible throw. It's, it's, it's a shuck it up there. That's where you have to decide in your head, I'm throwing this out of bounds or you're thrown it on the ground incomplete where no one's getting to it. You have, you have minimum, if they have three shots, give three shots, two timeouts. I mean, frankly, you should have a 40 yard field goal in that spot. They left the Eagles a ton of time. Yeah. Well, that's the most absurd thing with no timeouts. They just go matriculate breakdown of a boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, which by the way, to me, I know there's the play call and that deserves scrutiny. But to me, the biggest takeaway is it's, it's the same defense. It's the passive defense, the bed, but don't break defense. You got a quarterback who's coming off in a kiddies injury who is a statuesque, right? Like who you got a quarterback that you got to pressure on. You got to do it. You decline, can't generate any pressure. You got to send a blitz. You can't sit there and just let them pick you apart. I don't understand it. That's what the Eagles organization wants for everybody that bits about Jonathan Gannon and then who they hired last year. It's the same thing. It's a vixigio. They're on the cycle. This is what they want to run. It's this. It's an atom limit friendly defense. It's always been that they've always taught. They believe in this thing. It's organizational wide, which for the life of me, I don't understand. I don't understand it. And listen, there's parts of that defense that makes sense like people run it, right? We're not fans of it because we like more of a, an aggressive style defense. But you got to come out of the shell when you got a quarterback like cousins. But to your point, analytics is great and the Eagles have to use analytics. You can say better than any team in the NFL. They were, they were first, first team doing it or whatever. But the cousins as a quarterback is different than some other quarterback where like you get pressure on Kirk cousins. He's going to throw the ball up. Yeah. I mean, he's just going to throw the ball up. He's got nowhere to go. So to more or less just give up on trying to get to the pass rusher and should they be able to get pressure from their front four? Yeah, they should. But they were. But first of all, that's, that's the truth of the matter is their D line thinks no good. It's just not good. I mean, the difference when they won the super ball running the same stuff is because they had Fletcher Cox who was still a beast, BG who was young and a beast, Chris long, right? Like you had a D line that was a force. They were great. This D line's not good. Nothing. It's not good. Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Nolan Smith through two games, two tackles, one quarterback, Harry No sax. Jalen Carter played 46 snaps last night and had one tackle. Yeah. It was the one play flat. The one play. Yep. That you noticed. He's got to do better. Hey, your Davis just lost. Oh, no, no, he thinks. Right. Huff is worthless. He had no stats. Yeah. He literally didn't have a stat last night. Well, you have to tackle. Yeah. Do you have that tackle? I looked this morning. They took it away from him. Yeah. It's not there. It's literally not there. Yeah. Like Jordan Davis and so far in two games, they were giving up six and a half yards of carrying 316 rushing yards. You draft a nose tackle in the top 13. So that doesn't happen because he's not getting the recorder back. You play a 50 front, right? So you want to play that five man front and you run downs, you play the 50 and he's not doing anything. Got to say. Not doing anything. All right. So I don't, I'm not, I'm not one that's leading the show today, talking about Sir Yani for an hour. How much of a booby is for throwing the ball and third down and everything else? So he's not going to do it. Play calls. Right. Well, well, I mean, yeah, that that's also true. And he said it after the game, but I think it's a debatable play. They actually said we think that if we run it here, they're going to have 10 people and they're going to crash the middle and so here's my argument, right? Like I don't think it's idiotic, right? But I don't think the risk was worth the reward. I mean, in this case, so if people go, well, look, they move right down the field. Well, if they only have a minute to go, all right, instead of a minute 40, it's a different mindset. Right. He goes play differently. They play differently. So the first play of that drive was a play across the middle of the field that took about 20 seconds, but it was a drive starter, right? It got them going because when you, when you run a hurry up offense, you need a drive starter, right? You need to, because then you could move defense, not set the whole thing. You can't run that play with a minute to go because you're burning too much time. I just. So you just got to play the percentage. I agree with you and I, I, Tyler and I were talking this morning. I would have ran the ball, but it's, but no, I'm not saying you're an idiot because I can't listen to play work, right? They say, like, catches the ball. Exactly. He's the best back. Catch the ball out of that. So he dropped. I just don't like the risk in that situation. I don't think it's a, you know, death now call like I don't think, oh my God, you're an idiot. I, I'm my biggest gripe is with the defense and how the fact that fans, you know, after watching his D line being anemic, right? Why didn't you dial up a pressure? Yep. Lisa Jonathan Gannon, he would find ways to bring to be creative and get a fifth rusher to get a fifth pass rusher. And like I agree with you, they beat up on bad quarterbacks, but they at least were able to generate pressure. And their line was much better than, I mean, it feels like 10 years ago that these guys were playing. Not two years ago. The biggest disappointment. You know, I got to tell you, he's the Georgia to, you know, Philly dog, Philly dog. And listen, I mean, I loved it. So I can't, I can't complain. I mean, Jalen Carter slips here 10. I'm going to sign me up. Jordan Davis. I know. Jordan Davis was a little sketchy because you, you were hoping that he would become an every down player, right? Not just situational guy. So he was a little bit debatable, but Jalen Carter, I'm the old Smith. I got it. All right. He slips. No, I'm Smith. They just can't play. All right. So I don't want to steal your thunder because I know you're coming up at nine o'clock and you have, you have a lot to say. I just wanted to one more thing on this defense. How does Booker Thomas Booker and nine snaps have three tackles and two, he's, he didn't do more in nine snaps last night than the fricking entire defensive line has done all scenes along. Milton Williams had made an impact. He made an impact. The backup players are showing up and limited snaps and these prolific first round draft picks and other guys to give me nothing. Joshua at least like you, you notice them once or twice a game. This tough is a disaster disaster, but I got news for you. That's not good enough for Joshua. No, it's not. No, it's not. That's where we are with this line that if a guy you, you notice the guy once or twice a game. It's like, well, at least he has a pressure this year or a hurry. Yeah. I mean, Jesus, you can't, it's a shame because I like your secondary, like their corners. I'm cool. I'm Mitchell's going to be really good. You can say, but I like their corners. Cooper Dajean. I don't. Wow. He's, he's going to need a red shirt. You're like, have to see. But I mean, I like your secondary. Unfortunately, you can't play with that line in front of you. No, you can't. If you don't, if you can't generate any sort of pressure, then you have to dial a blitz, which is not clearly not what fan Joe's going to do. Why receiver depth? I was worried about going into the season only if, you know, you lose one of these two guys. Now you have Britain, Cubby running routes. He doesn't want to throw the dots in. I don't know if he's not getting open or what. I'll be interested to hear what Baldi has to say about everything. I know. I got to tell you. You know, the one thing that Jalen, I wish he would, I wish he would do more of is when he looked, when he scrambles, because he's quick to get out of the pocket and he looks, he looked good last night, he hit the purse last night, he did, but less running and more scrambling to look down the fields because there were, there were guys that were open down the field and that's something that, you know, it's great that he runs, but that's not sustainable. Man, we saw it last year, the minute you get popped and he's, and he's hurt, you have to just move to throw. Here's the, here's the, and it's actually was what I had, was going to talk about the last, last segment here is that you saw the burst last night. He kind of put the team on his back on a couple of those drives. But what happens, like you said, when he gets hit, he looks like he did last year. And if you don't develop and evolve as a, as a quarterback, throwing the football, you get what you got last year. Right. That's Lamar Jackson survival, right? Jalen can't play like that. He needs to be, like, you can pick and choose your spots. And lastly, he needed to do that right there. You can't play at that every game. You can't rely on that type of a player when you a super ball just can't. The great thing about 2022 with Jalen was he didn't depend on that. He, he was, he was run game was so much better. Yeah. You're right. It was a problem. Right. They're run game was so good that in the past game, everybody was open. Yep. He had multiple, like the scheme was, you know, the decordage caught up to it. Yep. Now made the adjustment. Yeah. All right. Coming up at nine o'clock. Thank you. Love you, buddy. I needed this. I am my man. I actually, I brought it. This wasn't even a prop. That core is light right there. Yeah. I didn't, I drank my coffee in about three seconds. And I, I forgot an energy drink. So I'm like, I need something right now. I need like, give me some alcohol. I didn't drink it, but I felt like I needed to drink this morning. Yeah. Yeah. I'm with you. You want to drink after? I'm in. All right. Let's do this here. So don't go anywhere. Anthony, your organo show. All right. Well, let's do this here. All right. Because I was actually looking for the line. I guess it wasn't posted after last night. 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So I invite to follow this guy because he melts down with the giants cause he actually thinks that they're going to be good every year. He's one of those fans that thinks they're going to be good. So now he knows that they're going to suck and they're more or less tanking. If you noticed on social media last night, every friggin giant fan or member of giant media up there, uh, it would, Tyler, would you agree? They seem like that they won the super bowl. That is, there is a weird sense of celebratory, uh, posts from a lot of giants fans, uh, is considering the fact that they probably, uh, host the worst or second worst quarterback in the NFL. Right. Uh, at the current moment, the other one, um, got benched, you know, this past weekend. Yeah. So, uh, and, and with the 60 some odd million dollars over the last couple of years for, for Daniel Jones, like, yeah, uh, it's, it's this weird celebratory. That doesn't quite make a whole lot of sense. I mean, unless this is all they've got to celebrate, well it makes sense. It honestly makes sense to me. And if I had, if I had a team in an organization that was terrible, like the giants, that if you take away those two super bowls, and I know you're not going to take those two super bowls away, but in the last decade is one of the worst teams in the national football league. It's one of the worst organizations in the national football league. The regal Mara and Tisch, New York giants, they suck. They're buried in loss in the nineties. All right. So if I was a giants fan and say quant Barkley, more or less just said, F you guys, I'm going to go play for your biggest rival, the Eagles, and I'm going to try to shove it up your nose. Like I'd be pretty happy if Saquan dropped the ball to lose the game. Eagles fans are extremely annoying. Believe me. I know that. But here's, here's the good thing. We're not giants. We're not the giants. And we're not giants fans. So we don't have to act like that because if I was pathetic, like the giants, I probably would act like this. Here's Sean Mirage on his Twitter after last night's game. I tried to tell you, Eagle fans, you have that losing players, Saquan Barkley, with all his crap drops and crucial spots. And already in week two, he's caused you a football game, losing players, lose games. Enjoy that. Enjoy Nick Sirianni's man titties. Enjoy your old Philly. You guys suck. Saquan sucks. You lost the Kirk cousins in front of you. Well, listen, he, he's a loser player because he played for a loser organization. And if he would have resigned, you wouldn't become a loser player. It's a loser organization. They should assign them. They should have. But being that you have no quarterback, no line, no talent, Malik neighbors looks like a stud. Yeah, so like letting Saquan Barkley walk wasn't ridiculous. The fact that they even wanted to resign them or the owner was like, like, if you're the owner, you want Saquan Barkley back, you tell the GM, I want Saquan Barkley back. He didn't want to go back. You know why? Because it's a loser organization. So enjoy your Super Bowl last night, Sean Mirage and all you other loser giants fans up there. I know it felt good. It hurt. The loss hurt. It was salt in the wounds. Tyler Zoule. It hurt last night. But I listen, I get it. I understand that, you know, the frustrations of an organization that, you know, not like you said, not only lost a really good player, but lost a good player to a divisional rival definitely stings a little bit. And if this is a coping mechanism, a mechanism of this helps you sleep at night, God bless. Good for you. I will say this. I think that if an Eagles fan, especially somebody in our mine of work did this, I would expect that we roast them. Because it's fake. It's phony. Well, that's how that's how they all feel. They hate us. That's fine. And I hate the Giants too. I do too. They're my least favorite team. I hate giants more than I hate the Cowboys. It's just the product of me. The team that I grew up, you know, watching, it just was part of that, that conversation. If I did this after somebody goes to the Giants and, you know, the performer has this issue. Well, you look pathetic like they look. Let's face it. I would hope you would call me out on it. Let's face it. They, they, they look pathetic doing it, but it amuses them and it's kind of funny. So anyway, by the way, if you're not subscribing to our newsletter, Tyler, and I know you are, I am as well, Rich Hoffman Jr. comes up with it every morning. So before we go on the air at eight o'clock, you can have this newsletter delivered to your, to your email. And don't think of it like a newsletter. It's called P H O L Y daily. Everything you need to know. It's really a sports page, a digital sports page with everything, including, you know, like he takes highlights from tweets. So he'll post tweets, he'll give you information on the games. I mean, really it is a, it's a great resource. I take a look at it as soon as Rich puts it in the inbox to make sure I'm not missing anything. Oftentimes I get tidbits that I use for the show. So if you haven't subscribed, just get to our website and just boom, sign up and you can get it. Yeah. So it comes every morning. Before we go on the air, you can get it. Phillies did lose last night. I figure like we, we, I know we weren't going to really talk about it this morning, but we got to least mention it. They lose last night. Ranger Suarez didn't look good again. He went five innings. Wasn't horrible. I can't tell you I watched one second of the game because I didn't. But lots of the, the brewers got it. Another one coming up here. It's got to be careful that, that you don't go up there and get swept because now you're talking about losing number one seed in the NL and some other possibilities. Well, and I will say this after last night's started, it wasn't, he was more, he was much more sharp than he was in the last two. It still wasn't good. But I will say this, I think we've probably gotten just about to the precipice of, I don't think there's any question in anybody's mind right now. Christopher Sanchez is starting within the first three games of the playoffs and Ranger Suarez probably is not. Now they'd be crazy to do it. And he would also have to understand. He's, he's, he's laboring to get you through five innings. He's out of gas after five innings. We had worried about this earlier in the season where it's like, man, he's never pitched like this before. He's never like, this is a lot of innings for him to log his regular season high was one 55. Yep. Heading into this year. So, and then he had the injury and he's never really fully come back from the injury. So you have Zach Wheeler going tonight and then you, and then you have Aaron Nola. So Wheeler, Nola next two games, but they lost last night. I was Nick Foles day, last night he retired. The friggin loss didn't really get to celebrate it. I probably wouldn't have anyway, not that I don't love Nick or whatever, but like it was cool. I enjoyed watching the videos and seeing the pictures and things like that. So shout out to, uh, to Nick Foles on his official Eagles retirement. And all day yesterday was Jason Kelsey show there, uh, Tyler Zoule. Yeah. Yeah. It was, uh, it was an interesting dynamic in the booth. You could tell that they wanted, uh, Kelsey to be a little more, um, himself, a little bit more personable. And it felt to me like Kelsey was trying really, really hard to be an objective broadcaster, knowing it's a national game, knowing it's the Eagles and it almost felt like they were just like poking the bear a little bit where they're like, Hey, what do you think about Cam Jurgens? What do you think about Jason hurts? That was a good play. Wasn't it? And it was weird. It was like he loosened up a little bit as they got going, but to me, it felt like that he was afraid to step on Troy given the analysis. And really they just wanted him being in there being Jason and having fun. So yeah, he, it was the, and they were kissing his ass too. They're like, Oh, a future hall, the famous and they're like, thank you so much and honor to have you in here or whatever. And it's like, yeah, bro, like he's probably going to be in the booth in like a year. He's destined to be in the booth. I know he does the, the pregame stuff or whatever. He can make $20 million a year being an analyst. That's why I think he's going to end up doing, but he was, he was like, he was dancing around and, and doing all this other stuff, pregame in the parking lot. He is, he's something else, man. I love Jason. He's great. All right. Something tells me we're going to be bitching and complaining tomorrow. There are Tyler Zilly. Why is that? Because the Eagles lost. This isn't a one day man. The Eagles suck. Let's move on tomorrow. No, no, no, no, no. There's a, on top of need it, you know, needing one win to get the regular season series. It was like over the Brewers, the need a win, the tiebreaker on top of needing that and then losing yesterday. And you don't want to, you don't want to slip too much ground. Now it's like, we just got the precipice, the, the pressure of like angry Eagles fans on his shoulders now where it's like, Zach, you, you better win, buddy. I feel terrible. You'll be collateral. Damn. I've already gotten pressure on, on himself, a bulk of times anyway, because they seem to give them run support. Shout out to the diehards out there. Thank you to the diehards. Yeah. It'd be nice if they got a win tonight. All right. So everybody, you know how to watch the show. This is the first time you tune it in after an Eagles game every morning, eight o'clock Philly Philly with John Marks, Tyler Zulis here. And if you don't catch the show live at eight o'clock, you can watch on YouTube whenever on demand, PHLY sports is how you find us on YouTube. My personal stuff is at john j o n marks m a r k s media at john marks media, Instagram, Twitter, uh, at gmail.com. You can email me. Same way. Uh, if you watched, if you want to listen to the podcast, maybe you're listening right now, you're like, why do you listen to the podcast? The audio version of the podcast is available a little bit after nine o'clock. Tyler, we're posted and you can listen to it at your convenience. 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