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Jeff Poor Show - Thursday 9-26-24

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will show you how it's going. From Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach at all points in between an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Poor Show. I don't think Hank, this way. No. Good morning. Welcome to the Jeff Poor Show. I'd have to talk 106 five. Thank you for being excited about this. I don't think it's going to be going to be in touch with the program. You know what to do. You text me and I'll do my best to respond to whatever it is. You said my way come upon the program about 30 minutes from now. We'll hear from Lance Bell. Lance Bell, a state senator from Pell City has most of St. Clair County. I think about half of Talladega County and supporters of Shelby County to some others. April Weaver, I believe, West Kitchen's down at the southern border. We're going to hear from him, but more specifically probably going to talk Celicaga that's in his right there in his district about the Haitian resettlement and you know, sort of what he's hearing and we'll walk through some whatever it is, the options, and we're going to talk a little bit about. Get an exercise. That's coming up in about 30 minutes from now. Also on the program today for refocal. We talked to her every Thursday and then we'll wrap it up with our good buddy, Dick Brubaker former state senator from a government serve Brubaker and I will endeavor to solve all the world's problems in a 15 to 18 minute radio segment. Once again, two, five, one, three, the zero six you need to be a touch with the program. What's got to do? You got to text me and that will just uh, we'll just go back and forth from there. Uh, hurricane watch here. Uh, so I guess it's gonna go right into Appalachia. Cola up into Tallahassee. Uh, talked to her from some of my old friends at Tallahassee this morning and um, there. Uh, I mean, I guess the guys there, we live there for several years. My wife and I, when she was in law school and we got there and had been, they had like their first real hurricanes. It's like 1981 or something. Here in the last few years, they'd be getting a few, but uh, make landfall at category four and then uh, weekend as it goes and has it more and uh, luckily it looks like uh, we will escape the brunt of it, but some of our friends over in the eastern part of the state, the far eastern part of the state will get a little bit of this. So, uh, we'll obviously, we got our eye on it. Uh, other than that, the mayor of New York City, guys, not a good day for him and uh, I, you know, Southern District of New York, it always is a red flag for me. It is the, uh, the U.S. attorney there. You always kind of suspicious of the politics that are being played, but uh, apparently he has something to do with Turkey and uh, during his campaign promises of a consulate. But it comes in a very, and we'll get to some more local stuff here in a minute, but uh, anybody notice like they go after the mayor there. For I guess dealing the way he dealt with some of these foreign nations and how it pertained his campaign. The week that all of these foreign dignitaries are in New York City for the U.N. General Assembly. Very, very strange timing. Also, uh, continuing underway. Uh, one of the oversight hearings into the. Uh, first, uh, Trump assassination attempt. This just sounds weird to say we were so desensitized to it. It's like, oh, well, that was the first one. What about the second one? Uh, Kamala Harris sitting down with Stephanie Rule. And does she even know what country she's in? Uh, I guys, and then I shut up right wing, uh, Republican boy, right part editor, 18, 19 guy. I don't see how she could win. It's pretty clear she's, she's very clueless. After that interview with the MSNBC and a very, very, very friendly. Interviewer is clear to me that it is not a coincidence or it's not just a look out. This is not happenstance or any kind of part of a strategy other day and to keep her away from the camera because she doesn't know what the hell she's talking about. She's struggling with the tariffs. She just, she is not prepared to be president of the United States. I'm not saying she's not capable, but she's clearly not willing to do the work. At least do the homework. I, you know, maybe she has other policy strengths. But on this, she is not good at all on the economy. She didn't teach like just kind of basic American economics. Like it's not like pure free market capitalism. But it's certainly not like gimmick socialism giveaway. She is not just take the politics out of it. Take the ideology. Take the political affiliation. Why does she, how is she so impressive? Well, it makes people like just nothing. I think I'm pretty average intelligence here. But I could tell she just doesn't get a lot of things. It's always, and I say it's all time, but it's always a little disappointing when like elected officials, you know more than they do about some of these like very, very core policy. Her policy ideas. And she falls into that category. And she can be present in the United States. I mean, who knows? But if you're watching this and you know, you kind of, you kind of got to look at this and think it's not that she's wrong. Like you can listen to Barack Obama wrong. But at least intelligent. It can make a compelling case for whatever left wing crackpot stimulus giveaway. He was trying to promote. She does not clue. I mean, she may be good in a courtroom. And I don't even know that. She might even be good on the on the stump. In San Francisco County. Or in California, but she is a very underwhelming. Presidential candidate. I mean, we talked about it about it at least yesterday. That's listed a guy's on mobile boardies. Talk about it. A lot of speculation about who will be in the field to replace mayor steps the next year. You start running now, essentially. And it's not this time around. We don't really have a good feeling because it creeped up so suddenly. Everyone just assumed mayor steps and would run again. And you would have somebody run against him. But now it's kind of wide open. Also, we got to talk about this. Big Ted Mayors. They're added again, ladies and gentlemen. Big Ted. There's one. It's a Birmingham Randall Woodfin. I'm going to talk a little bit about that. I'm going to talk a little bit about it. I'm going to talk a little bit about it. I'm going to talk a little bit about it. I'm going to talk a little bit about it. I'm going to talk a little bit about it. I'm going to talk a little bit about it. I'm going to talk a little bit about it. 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I'm going to talk a little bit about it. Tell me about this. You say they come across with these EBT cards with five grand or something loaded on them? We walked in there and they've all got cell phones. They've got a debit card. Most of them, the families get $5,000. When they come in these charities, there's a big bar set up when you walked in the door. Where we would say bourbon and rhymes and bottles. You went to a bar in the United States. That bar has diapers, toothpaste, toothbrush, necessities that you need. When they come in, they're using their card also for those kind of items at that charity. Well, they don't understand the money. They don't understand what's on their card. So by the time they leave that charity, their card is down to about zero. The charity's got not only the government paying them, and this year I think that one charity went through it's made over $7 million just this year. That's just this year that they've already got closer to $8 million. And plus, they're charging these people almost $5,000 on every card that comes through there by the time they leave. And then they leave them right. I disagree with our government. Give them the money. I disagree with our government. Give them the cards. You just think just since this program started 530,000 Cuban patients, Nicaraguan and Venezuela have arrived and been granted for all status here in the United States. $530,000 by the Bureau of Border Patrol numbers. And that's just the ones that are actually counting. Where are these people going? Who's taking care of them? They can't, you know, they come here. They don't know the language. They're being thrown in our school system. And our schools are not equipped for it. We don't have the translators. There's only so many translators that can speak the languages. They speak. And it's a bad situation for everyone. Well, let's talk about this. The city at one of the cities in your Senate district, Silicon has been in the news. And I, you know, it looks like right now there's some Haitians being settled there. It's all part of the CHNV program we just mentioned. You know, these town halls, we sent one of our reporters over there to cover it. And there's not much you guys at the state level could do is kind of the message that you conveyed, right? That's correct. Well, could, and you've got a legal mind here. I mean, is there something criminal going on here with these sponsors making these promises, these NGOs, even these charities and that they're making, I don't know, leading people a little astray here, bringing them here, not necessarily having what they promised. Like, is that, is that something within the state's purview? Not in the state, but we don't have anything with that now. And I will say, and someone you have as a regular guest, Senator Elliott, we have had several conversations along with some others. I think you're going to see some things that next session we're going to try to do to chase the sponsors. And I believe this was Senator Elliott's idea. The sponsors should have to register here, and as a criminal if they're not registering, who they're bringing here, where they're bringing them. Because we, for infrastructure, for the education system, for the things that they need, we need to have money set aside for the interpreters, those kind of things, if they're coming here, like they're coming. But we need to shut the border down, close the border down, get it secure, get it secure, and figure out what we're doing, and how we're doing it. And we need to do a better job on the border, and it solves all of this. But would divide the administration, do what they're doing, they're granting all of this, they're funding all of this, they're behind all of this. Our hands are tied on the state level, for the most part. Well, I just, it's just so the criminal, I mean, potentially criminal, going on with the, the enablers, and not necessarily the, the, the so-called refugees. And well, why, why wouldn't you look at that number one, but number two, the jobs, I guess, I don't think all the people who were employing these Haitian asylum seekers or whatever you want to call them are necessarily bad actors, some are maybe employing them after the fact, well, they're here and they need a job. Others, at least on these poultry processing plants, Senator, I think you're just exploiting a very difficult situation. I agree with you. I agree with you. They're, they're taught in the middle. You know, that's the bad part, you kind of feel sorry for them because they're the ones trapped in the middle. They come here under one, one thought process of where they're going, they get here, and I can tell you what they showed America is being in that commercial. I'm still looking for that vacation spot because I'd love to go there and see it myself. Yeah, I mean, that's really what it is. They are, you know, the false advertising aspect of that and not really having a way to, you know, you get here and then suddenly it's a totally different set of circumstances, but it's probably better than what they left still even under these under this dress, right? I agree, I agree. Well, and so the feedback from your constituents, you know, you know, we had kind of a similar, I don't want to say scare, but concern, if you will, down here where I'm at in Fair Hope. And what I can't figure out, Senator, and this seems to be sort of the rule. There's, there's a one city councilwoman in silica, who's an exception, but there seems to be sort of a disconnect here between the municipal governments and especially your level at the state level and even your congressional, our congressional delegation in the state. Like, what do you make of that? These municipalities are like more concerned with telling the constituents, hey, it's, it's going to be okay. You don't need to be upset. Don't listen to the rumors. And I don't know that they can do a whole lot, but maybe proactively they can enforce some zoning ordinances or whatever. But it does seem like the levels of concern vary greatly. I agree. And I can tell you from silica, the council members there have reached out trying to figure out answers. We've reached out. Congressman Rogers has been great. Senator Brett, Senator Coverville, they have all been trying to work it, but they're not even getting answers. On the federal level, they cannot even get the answers that they are asking for. It's just like they're stonewalled. Yeah, I just kind of, some of my sources in that orbit, Senator, tell me this and see what's thinking about this. That, you know, it seems like an inopportune time. If you're a Democrat candidate for president to have a Haitian resettlement controversy because that is going to animate, motivate voters to go the other way for Trump. But there's this idea that Trump will win and they're facing in January 20th deadline because that's inauguration day. And you have hundreds of thousands of these, up to half a million of these CHNV refugees, all, you know, all like probably South Florida, most of them, but some come across the other ways across the border. And they got to find a place for them before Trump gets an office and resends that order. And then once they find them a place, if Trump tries to deport them, some liberal group will go to court and try to stall it like they did Trump's travel band and eventually got upheld by the US Supreme Court. But it seems like there's a very kind of evil sinister game being played by the Biden administration right now with this. Absolutely. But think back in 2011, our state legislature passed a very immigration act. And by the time they got finished, the federal courts had destroyed most of it. So at one time, Alabama had a very good law in place, but then by the time it gets through the federal courts, and the same thing's going to happen again, just what you said. Whatever we do is going to be tested in federal court. And I think the times today may be a little bit different with what's going on, but, you know, just who knows what federal court, the federal court will do with it. Well, I guess this. Well, let me ask, and then this is totally off topic, but tangentially related, you hear these mayors in these cities wanting a the clock switch ban, which is already a federal law in the books against it. What's the difference between what Alabama tried to do with immigration back then and getting eaten up by the federal courts and trying to supplement a already something that looks like it's a federal law? I mean, isn't that sort of the same thing? It is. It's politics with people's lives. It's the same, right. So it looks to me like it's sort of like the same idea, but the people who were probably pushing back against that immigration law back in 2011 are the ones now wanting this clock switch ban, right? Think about this. Certain mayors come in. They don't want you making an unlawful possession of marijuana second degree thing. Look at them in their case, made them in this whole court. And municipalities, regular all day long, district courts also. But you have certain mayors that come in and don't want to do that anymore. And so they stop their officers from enforcing laws that are on the books. So what's the difference if they'd been enforcing those laws, the simple laws, finding those people that are doing those kind of things, it all follows the hand in hand, is that what since you changed the permit, you know, permanently carried, we have no way to enforce the laws now and check in people. Well, if you go back to the laws that's already on the books prior with marijuana, for instance, you know, you're pardoned to all these people from the Mr. Mayor marijuana conviction, you could steal today to pull those people over. If they got that marijuana, it's still against the law. Enforce the laws on the books. And you solve a lot of problems. Quit trying to go back and blame things that are not there. Senator, we're wrapping up on this. And Lieutenant Governor Williamsworth was down here and said as much, but it does look like this to me that by bringing a lot of these refugees and resettling them in Alabama, potentially in some places, and I would put Talladega County on this list. If the system is overwhelmed, the county government will look to the federal government for help. And it creates this dependency, which I think when you create these sort of, you know, intergovernmental dependencies, they become beholden to the federal government, which really changes the politics. And I mean, does it seem that way to you? Hey, man, I agree. Yeah. I mean, that's what it looks like is going on here. And I don't know the politics of Talladega County or any of those cities around there, but I mean, you got to be concerned about that, right? 100%. We'll keep an eye on that. Well, Senator, it's been a pleasure getting you on this morning. And let's do this again real soon. Maybe we'll say that. I'll bring that up some other time. You ask about some of your gambling bouts earlier this session and the day that will live in infamy, but we'll say that for another day. Hey, man. Thank you. Thank you. All right. State Senator Alance O'Belle right there. We got to get a break in here. We'll be right back. This is the Jeff Moore show for an FM talk, 106-5. A couple of guys in first class on a flight from New York to Los Angeles. Welcome back to the Jeff Moore show of the talk with 06-5. Thank you for staying with us on this Thursday morning. 2513-343-0106. Got a boatload, literally text here to get to. We'll get to those in the over the next couple of segments. 2513-343-0106. Coming up in that next hour, April Marie Fogle, our Thursday regular, and finally in the 11 o'clock hour. State Senator Dick Buru Baker, so make sure you stay right where you are watching the five counts on the New York mayor, wire fraud and bribery. So they are essentially accusing the mayor, New York City, Eric Adams, I guess, of taking foreign bribes. Good pro quo. I guess you can be the mayor of New York City, but if you are Hunter Biden, we're going to slap you with a drug charge or a gun charge. I mean, I'll see. And they text your Harris is running on abortion rights, LBG, Q rights, racism, and increasing entitlements. But that's hard to run on. And the reason it worked so well, 22, and it didn't work well, and Republicans were totally called off guard. But the Dobbs decision was like really fresh on people's mind. Like, get it just happened. And got to give it to the pro choicers. They rallied like they they grazed a lot of money on this very emotional issue and a very emotional issue that I have a hard time understanding. And then bear with me here. I mean, I think there's a lot of a lot more pro choicers out there who will admit it publicly. This is a hard issue. Well, where here's where I am. I mean, I'm when the, you know, the band in Alabama determining when life begins and the difference between contraception and abortifacients. And, you know, I think the embryo has to attach to the uterus before we can even begin to discuss whether it's life or not. But pretty much in the cap of being otherwise very, very anti-abortion. And I think a lot of people, you know, they have these views, but there's this in the back of people's mind who are not necessarily pro-abortion, but just like having it on the books, just like in case one of my little girls, something happens. And I don't want her carrying this monster's child. Or maybe it's something even, you know, not quite as serious. Maybe it's a quote unquote mistake. And they just, they like knowing that, you know, in case of emergency break glass that you could go get an abortion. And I just maybe isn't as explicit, but it is there. And I think that's part of it. And I mean, that might work for Kamala Harris. There seems to be a disconnect between men and women in these national polls. And I think that has something to do with it. We get to elaborate more on that in the next segment. We'll be right back. This is FM Talk, 106-5. ♪ Lona tried to tell me ♪ ♪ To stay away from the train line ♪ ♪ I said that all the railroad men ♪ ♪ Just drink up your blood like wine ♪ ♪♪ From Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach, at all points in between. An insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Poor Show. I don't think Hank done it this way. ♪♪ Welcome back to the Jeff Poor Show at FM Talk, 106-5. Keep in staying with us on this Thursday morning. 2513-430106. If you want to be in touch with the program, what you got to do? You got to shoot a text to that number right in this game. 2513-430106. And from Murray Fogle coming up in about a half hour from now. Also in the program today, we'll get to former state Senator Dick Marubaker. And we will figure out all the ills in society. We will do our best to figure out how to solve them. Still kind of on Eric Adams' watch right now, if that's all concerning to you. I just said that District of New York strikes again. And I'm not a fan of this mayor at all. I mean, he is what he is. But I always, it always bothers me with these prosecutors at the federal level go after like a big fish like this. That doesn't mean he's about above the law. But there's especially with that U.S. court district, a tendency to overreach. James Kobe, for whatever reason, I read his book. And he used to be a prosecutor for the Southern District of New York. He talked about that. And this is what you need to know about the SDNY. Everything goes through the Southern District of New York in America, it seems. So, for example, like all of these stock trades and everything that goes on a Wall Street. There's a lot of commerce, a lot of things that are daily lives. Even here in Mobile are tied to in the Southern District of New York. It's like the Southern District of New York and the DC circuits and these places like that really do have a profound impact. So that becomes a very, very, very political district. And when you see this, I mean, you would never see like, I mean, I guess you did you have seen the Southern District of Alabama go after the mayor mobile the 80s. But this is not a common template here. So, Mayor adds about to speak. He's, I'm not sure what to make of this, but we'll see. He may have some allies here. I wouldn't consider this because we know how we're all jaded by the federal courts. Back to what I was saying before that the break and there's a disconnect here in the poll. The polling is showing a trade here. I think this is important to talk about and highlight. I mean, Trump's doing. It's where the, the gender, the two sections. Trump is doing really, really well with male letters and Harris is doing really well with female letters. This, this, it tends to be a little bit of this from time to time, but in these polls, it's like a 10 point swing. Like that's, that's wild. And all I can, you know, is it just, I don't think it's a, like, yay, girl power. We got a woman and women are going to vote for the girl and guys are men are going to vote for the guy boy or whatever kind of thing going on here. But nay texture in the last segment mentioned abortion. She's going to roll abortion. And what do you, there's, it's this, I mean, it's a perception. It's a rule. Men aren't allowed to talk about this. This is a female hands off my body. And I think women publicly will say, no, I'm against abortion. No, but maybe behind a, the, the cloak of a voting booth somewhere, they think a little different. I mean, that are, are even in a response to a pollster as all I could figure. But there is a disconnect here and you, they, maybe it's internalized. It's not the one very, very prominent female politician wants about this and then she'd sit like, well, you know, understand there's this fear that your little girl, something would happen to her and it's just horrifying to think that she would have to carry that baby. Well, you're not like out there, like exercising your right to an abortion. You like knowing it's at least there is an option. You don't want to think about it as what God's will or any of that because, you know, and as unlikely or as gruesome as that sounds, guys, that impacts voting behavior. Are they textures? Hi, Jeff. I had a texture. So glad to hear that Senator state, that bleeding heart of charities bringing illegals into the country. I'm financially profiting from their moral activities. I frequently see the NGO personnel shepherding illegals throughout the Houston International Airport. This is disgraceful and demonic. Try to give these charities the benefit of the doubt. But having worked for a little bit into non-profit, well, I guess technically the non-profit world still. Well, when I first got to watch the Sea Howard for a real unified non-profit and knowing how they go about raising money, knowing how the racket sort of works. This is a whole other level. This is not just like getting wealthy people to write you into these things. And if your charity kind of being a very mediocre product, this is like exploiting the human condition, right? Your desire to people wanting to flee a desperate situation, in some cases, for a better life and are being misled by these charities that are collecting money on the front end from the government and money on the back end from these refugees are being given money by the federal government. I mean, that sounds criminal. That sounds like what I understand about all of this. Let's bring it back to Alabama and let's talk about resettlement. And the people who are enabling this resettlement, it's not as if you have a platelet of Haitians and these Haitians get off of the plate at the Miami Air National Airport or wherever and they're like, hey, I want to get on a bus to Silicon Alabama. But at some point they are being told, hey, why don't you go to Silicon Alabama will help you find a job, a house that will be great. It's just like Mayberry. Who are these people? These are the people I want to know who they are. Because I think there is an element of fraud here. And it's an element of fraud where there are victims. And there ought to be a minimum of some kind of standards, some kind of regulatory authority. But if anything, why can't we investigate these nonprofits, these NGOs, these even these sponsors to see if they lied and took advantage of a situation to profit? Doesn't that sound like fraud ought to be prosecutable under the criminal code? And a lawmaker to lawmaker, policymakers to policymakers says this or like, well, there's nothing we can really do about it. It's a federal issue. Well, if they're committing a crime by engaging in a, or whatever kind of fraudulent scheme to take money from refugees from Haiti, I mean, there's a victim right there. And then they can, they ought to be able to go after these actors, potentially for some fraud, the criminal code ought to have something against that, I would think. Wouldn't someone suspect that? Well, there's no one talking about the clock. We're living strategy at exactly what it is because that is exactly what is happening in going on. Listen, this is like Gloedbeck circa 2009. Overwhelms, I mean, we get it. Yes, we've talked about it. Gene, no one is pro-abortion, but most people are poor choice. That is a big difference. Well, that's what I'm saying, they're pro-choice and they just like, Gene, to having the choice. And I was saying that, like, conservatives, especially social conservatives, ought to move away from their position. I mean, here's a difference. I mean, I'm not one of these guys who's going to tell, well, Republicans got to find religion on abortion to do what it would have elected. I mean, screw the election. That's not important to me. It's the preservation of life and what life begins. And that's where we don't, that's the philosophical argument. That has to be settled to move ahead on this whole abortion discussion. But as far as politics go, I think there are a lot more pro-choice women out there, or even pro-abortion, which is the extreme on the spectrum, Gene. I think there are people who are pro-abortion. There are people who think that we have too many babies. Are they having a child as some kind of a impediment to living the crazy, fun life, that they are pro-abortion and they like having, but I'm going to tell you, that those are people who believe abortions, again, the birth control. It's like you are pregnant and you find out and you're like, whoa, and you look at your life and all the good times and everything to your status quo, and you don't want to part ways with that, and a child is going to change that and you opt to have it aborted. I mean, that's when we start thinking about abortion and not just these extreme cases of rape, incest, and protection of life. I mean, it's essentially a lot of people see it as birth control, and that's where we got to talk about the morals of it. We always go for the extreme cases of why it should be legal. We never talk about what it's the mainstream like. Well, let's go to your business. It's a woman's choice. Okay, but as a taxpayer and a citizen of this country and our big discussion about what life begins, I mean, everybody has a say in it. That's the kind of system we live under. It doesn't stop at whatever gender you, especially these days or whatever you check, whatever box you check on the gender column. That's what the micro see is, right? The micro see, but it's a policy, it's a policy question. Are we looking at abortion as like a real medical procedure that is necessary in some circumstances? Or is it just a maybe a mildly convenient form of birth control to keep you from having to have a baby someday that you got to take care of? And I'm afraid, I mean, just acknowledge that that's for a lot of people. That's the way they look at it. Is that right? Is that the kind of society we want? And these are the kind of questions you got to ask. King of all and name textures. Wow. The gallivat is to claim in his speech with the significance that NYC is improving. But only thing it's better. I mean, I don't know how much you go to New York City, King. I think New York City is slightly, slightly improved from the De Blasio days. It's not quite the Bloomberg days or even the Giuliani days. Certainly better than the Dinkins days. You go to New York City, you know, I'm talking about like New York City's has some ups and downs over the last 30, 40 years. Ladies and gentlemen. Two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six is the text. This is the Jeff Pore show it up and talk when it was six, five. They just stick it around on this Thursday morning. Two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six is the text line. If you want to respond anything you're hearing on the program. Larry from Daphty writes, so much to put together a deep fake. Sheriff Andy and Deputy Barney had to deal with the influx of Migrid Haitian refugees to Mayberry. And then he got like, I don't know who's the, who's the entrepreneur taking advantage of the situation. Jesus Bamber, different consent reports, owners of the apartment complex knew that they had a problem with the Venezuelan gangs months ago. They tried to get Aurora to condemn the building so he could demolish city NGO or book to blame. This is a wild scene at the, at the, at the department building. But that's just what's called a camera. Jerry is strange to me that people who would kill a child in the case of rape and not kill the rapist. Well, there you have it, Jerry. But, but I don't, those cases are, as far as I can tell, are rare. I mean, I'm not saying they don't happen. But if we're like being honest about it for a lot of women, and I'm not saying all women. I mean, I think that there are a lot of women out there who just like having the option. But for some women, it's like a way of life. Like, Hey, you know, things happen guys and you make some mistakes and you don't want to be, you're not ready to be mommy yet. So it's birth control. And to me, our society having that kind of option of birth control, there ought to be some line that you don't cross. When does, because it gets down to this. And then gosh, you've heard me talking about this for the last year. You're probably tired of hearing it. Like our institutions have failed us. Like the Supreme Court should have similar this long, long time ago. When does life begin? I mean, the Alabama Supreme Court. Said it begins at that embryonic stage. That's what they ruled because that's what they ruled is, you know, when those embryos were killed in that IVF clinic. It was a matter of, is this property? When that person came in that just wandered in off the street and picked up a tray of embryos and dropped it on the ground, shattered the glass and killed the embryos. The parents, quote unquote, those embryos were entitled to something. So what were they entitled to? What kind of damages? Like, cause I mean, you know, it's hard to get to that point in the IVF stage. But was that their property? Or was that a wrongful death of a human being? And that's why like, are like established, esteemed institutions, like the US Supreme Court, the Congress had to determine. And once they determined that, let's say make that decision, then this argument kind of goes away and we can decide when abortion is allowed, when you could have born a, if you want to call it a pregnancy, are you want to look at it differently? Is it birth? I mean, this is what we depend on these. This is why you get a lifetime appointment. These are the decisions the courts have got to make. And they, they punt every single time. And that's when they let us down. And this issue has been going on for 50 years because I think you have a Supreme Court at the federal level that's afraid to do that. But they got to at some point. And court cases can be overturned as with Roe versus Wade was. Well, for the sake of this discussion, that was the whole, those whole point of this Alabama Supreme Court case. And, you know, I know they probably didn't want to rule on it. They probably didn't want to, but you have to make that decision. Is it, is it, is it in real life? When is abortion begin? When does it end or what is it allowed? Like this is fundamental to this discussion. And the problem I have for a lot of you pro-choicers out there, you won't give me like a, a definition of life. And when, when does a being, is it in the womb? When do that, when does that organism get protections of life? That you can't just have it snuffed out. Is it birth? I mean, just say it. Why won't you say it? We'll be right back. This is the Jeff Porte Show. I've been talking about those six-five. And there's- [Music] Countable, it's just- [Music] I gave you my heart, and I tried to make it happen. And you gave me nothing in return. You know it ain't so hard to say. Would you please just go away? Welcome back to the Jeff Porte Show. I've been talking about those six-five nights. I'm taking a round on this Thursday morning, 2-5-1-3-4-3. 0-1-0-6 is the text line. Hit us up. Let us know what's on your mind. I still like having a program, but an hour from now, former state senator Dick Burubic, a buddy of the program. But to hear now on the show, we do this every week. April, Marie Fogel, a regular on FM Talk 106-5. April, Marie, good morning. How are you? Good morning. I'm doing well. How are you today? I'm living the dream here, I guess. It's all New York City right now. I just, not really. I guess it's meaningful in this sense. I mean, I'm always skeptical of this other district of New York, or whatever they go after, a political figure. It's a very power-hungry group of prosecutors there. But I think New York City, at least in the, it's a very short term. Under Mayor Adams, much, much better than Bill de Blasio was. That was a very low bar to, you know, to exceed, in terms of expectations of how somebody would get things done. Because it seems like, before the mayor, I mean, we've still had seen the crime. We've still seen some of the problems, but it's not been to the level of constant, consistent, you know, news coverage of it. No, and what I would say is, and I'll see a little social media chatter about it early. Yeah, I mean, there's probably something here that is very unethical. But this, this pales a comparison to what has been alleged against Joe and Hunter Biden. Yeah, it does. And I think what we, part of this is that, and like, what is the timing of this? I'm hoping to accomplish, because I feel like one thing about this court system is they don't do anything by accident. So what, what is the real purpose? Because it's not necessarily justice. No, there's, it's always politics with the Southern District. I, it seems like whenever they make the news, I'm sure they, they have to go after, like, I had, for whatever reason, about five years ago read the James Comey book. And, I mean, is he, he kind of explains like why the Southern District of New York is like it is. I mean, everything goes through the Southern District of New York. What do you look at, like, stock trades and financing and, you know, even some of the other things that go on in that city? Well, everything touches the SDNY and that gives them very, very broad latitude. It does, and so we, we've seen the, everything being political, everything being partisan. And so I look at the, it's a real shame though, because it used to be, so look at an indictment and be like, oh, they've got something. And in the last four to six years, it's like, oh, there's an indictment. Who's getting who for what? What does this have to do with, besides the crime that's been alleged? Well, I just, I, when you go after a high profile figure and then I put the mayor of New York City up there, I mean, the bar's got to be so much higher, but there is a clear double standard of justice, right? There's a, they pick and choose a cherry pick who they're going to prosecute and who they're not. Well, in campaign contribution stuff is, it is not something. It's one of those, if you are looking, you can probably find most people. There's something, there's something won't keep with campaign finances. Yeah. It is, it is one of those where they're on a witch hunt and they, they find something. Well, I always like these witch hunts, how they get started and that's always kind of, this always kind of insane, right? Like, oh, it's personalities or whatever. We have a lot of sort of rogue prosecutors in our criminal justice system at the federal level, though. That, that we do and it seems like I said, it's a problem that is getting worse, not better. And so, you know, I, I look at this, I got the, I'm sure just like you've got three, four news apps and you get the breaking alerts on your phone. And I'm like, oh, can't wait to see what this is. And it's not that this isn't something, because by the way, there is something to the fact that, you know, if people in other countries are funneling in campaign contributions, it's problematic. But this isn't like a national, I don't know why it was roads to the level that it wrote to. Hey, up your way, the, the five point south shooting. Yeah. And all my friends in the media are like, no, no, no, Jeff, that's silly. We can't put the National Guard in Birmingham. Why, why are we taking that off the table? I, because one of the people don't like it. I, I think we should bring the National Guard in. Here's the problem. The problem is that the mayor has been, and I so rarely agree with Kyle Whitmire. Kyle Whitmire has a piece. He was our last matter this morning about the influence that Woodton had. Woodton has tried all of his. I'm talking to the mamas. I'm talking to the grandmas. I'm telling you, it's niche on your friends. None of that is working. And in the meantime, Birmingham PD is understaffed and still have their feelings hurt from all the stuff that happened during the BLM stuff. And so I think bringing in the National Guard is a great idea. Because maybe these gang dangers will speak twice before they start shooting up, you know, tens and dozens of innocent people. Well, there's a gang more underway in Birmingham, right? I think even, even, even goofball, mayor of Birmingham, Woodford can, would acknowledge that. And, right? Yeah, yeah, and I was going to say, and we're seeing some very unlikely allies acknowledging the truth about what's going on here. Woodford themselves said, you know, as far as the public in general, no, there shouldn't be overwhelming fear because these are just God people shooting God people. And if you're not around the bad people and innocent people, he basically said that in an ale.com story run by Carol Robinson. And I was like, yay, for saying the quiet part out loud. No, it's incredible unfortunate, incredibly unfortunate. Two of these people were targeted and the rest died. Well, let's operate on this assumption. There's a gang war. It's gang warfare in the city of Birmingham. Now, I don't know where the hot spots are. Apparently, five points south where we're back in the day. We used to go to Louie Louie and bell bottoms and all the, like, kind of cheesy bars. But now it's a, it's not quite as, it doesn't look quite as fun every time I drive by it. I mean, it's just my old age, but I mean, like, clearly what the city of Birmingham is doing is not working. It is, it is not, it is failing miserably going to the microphone and proclaiming that we need to roll back. Permettless Carrie and have a glock switch band is not going to stop this gang war. That's, that's, I mean, no, it's not. They know it's not. They know that the solutions are tougher to be tougher. The solution is the solutions are two of the victims, right? That we're targeted. They had both been involved in previous murder. Okay. Okay. Stick with me here, though. If we know that one to go, I mean, the mayor of that town is doing is not working. How many more people need to die in a drive by before we say, okay, maybe there needs to be something a little more substantial than the outman under, underfunded or whatever it is, Birmingham Police Department, April Murray. Like, like, when do we need to say, Hey, guys, we can't do this on our own. This is, do something here, but that's, I'm not hearing that at all. It didn't, it didn't, one can say he would accept the help. And now isn't it to Ivy in the ball and Ivy court to send them? I mean, do you send state troopers? But I don't think, I don't, I don't like the idea of sending state troopers and you're talking to a guy in the opposite end of the state. Cause you can send state troopers. Well, then the, you're not going to have the 965 even more. All right. You're not going to have the, you're going to, you're going to stretch then on already, stretch then agency. Um, now do we need to take to roll in like it's Phoenix City, 1955? I don't know. But whatever is going on here from a policy perspective where we expect that we, uh, it trust the government to ensure the public safety is not going on here. And I'll tell you why this is different. Like, excuse me to my mobile audience, but the two things that run this state, the drive the state, the seat of power and Montgomery, those green rooftops and all the capital buildings. And you can't have chaos. It's doing there because the state government cannot function. So you got to maintain a level of safety. I mean, I wouldn't say the port down here. And there's some other very key parts of our infrastructure where safety has to be insured. But when it comes to Birmingham, I mean, you cannot have around those towers, uh, on the north side, you know, on the north side of the tracks here in Birmingham under siege. And you can't have a gang war going down at the ground level because it's, it's Alabama power. It's Regent's Bank. It's protective. It's, it's all of the big mules in this state that operate right there and drive so much of the business, the commerce every day in this state. They have got to be able to function in a place where they don't think they're going to get shot at because you have a little, somebody's got a beef with a rival gang, uh, around town here. If we can send and we have sent, uh, some of our now, our state guard to Texas to step to the border to help secure it. We can darn sure send them to Birmingham, Alabama on a whatever short assignment, um, to start with to see if it helps. And people in the community complain and they say, Oh, we don't need them here. We don't want them here. Then the mayor can say, Hey, then start snitching. Call the line. Get the $100,000. Turn in the shooter. Hey, tell you, you know, let us know if you don't want these officers on your streets, then you have to help us get the gang thing or off of them. I just, I can start kicking down some doors. Uh, I mean, it's, it's time to play our ball here. I know this is. Absolutely. I believe I guess maybe, maybe there's some new process that we have to go through here, but I think, you know, if you could get some warrants and you play some heavy handed tactics with these gang bangers. Cause this is not, it's not as if like something changed. That, you know, this is the product of like a out to lunch police force. And, you know, it's not as if you had the gangs move into the area or something. It's just a, it's a mismanagement at the municipal level. It is. It is a total mismanagement. And it is a lack. I mean, look, if I had a dollar, if we had an officer for every time. The mayor of Birmingham left Birmingham to go gladiants somewhere else to raise his own personal agenda. We would have, we would have thought this problem that people aren't focused on the right thing. That's complained for years about the mayor spotify the walk and talks and all the things, all the while. We have this chaos and suing. There are parts of town. I literally do not go into and I live here. And so I really think it does will require a show for it will require the people in the neighborhood saying it is safe for me to come forward with what I know, even if they do an anonymously. But it's going to take these things. And what we know is what he's been doing. Has it worked? I'm glad to hear you and I agree on this. Cause I, when I talked to Dale, when I talked to Phil Williams. Phil, so I thought they're just like, no, no, we can't do the National Guard. No, that's not what we need. Those guys served in the military. And they're like, well, I don't know that we need a, we don't need the, the clerk of the gas station court patrolling the streets of Edsley. I mean, these guys went through basic training. They know the drill. You're just there. It's just sort of a presence to serve as a deterrent. Well, and that's just it is I realized from the perspective of someone who would be sent Birmingham that that is like going to a war zone and they didn't anticipate going to a war zone in their backyard. But you find these are men and women who are signed up to serve. And this is a way we need them to serve right now without a doubt. This is how I a Birmingham resident with three small children need them to serve right now. Well, I want to see that. I just, I am so underwhelmed. I think the state level to though, and you start to see some of these law made these Democrat lawmakers push along the link of ammo. We'll do what she's got to do. That's ridiculous. The fight, the fat between her and Woodson is that that is what I'm saying is ridiculous. It's fantastic for me to watch. It's what you go down. It's great for guys like us. But like seriously, the mayor of Birmingham after like those four people were killed is memeing. Like he's making memes like what? What's going on here? It's absolutely ridiculous. I don't know. If I were mayor of any city and just one person died, I'd take a break from that stuff. Yeah, I think I think the priority has to be. And this is something I'm struggling with on a much more scale in the neighborhood is you've got to focus on the real problem slash enemy. And it's not the person you're fighting on Facebook. It's not the person that might disagree to what the question is. We should be united going. What we've been doing isn't working and we got to get rid of the gang biker. Yeah, children being shot people on their birthday parties being shot. It's ridiculous. I mean, are they are they that hidden that you can't go into neighborhoods and find these gangs and where they. Well, and that's the amazing thing is that you could literally ask any cop who's been assigned to one of these precincts and they'll tell you exactly where to find these guys. I mean, yeah, I think so. Like nowhere to find them. Where to hang out is and, you know, do some old fashioned police or where your informants. It just seems totally, totally devoid of like just just good old fashioned police work. It is. It's absolutely ridiculous that we don't have that we don't have an effort that says, because like I said, the officers know where they are. If there isn't a there hasn't been something strong enough a push strong enough for them to bring in the coalition they need to get these guys off the street. And I guess guys men and women because there are men and women. April, we got to leave it there out of time, but it was always a riveting segment. We'll do it again next week. You're going to get next week. You take it. April, Marie Fogle, ladies, gentlemen, this is Jet Force show and if we talk about those six times. Because I love you too much baby. Why can't you see what you do with me? When you don't believe a word I'd say. Stayed up late again watching TV with my best friend. Laughing at the lead not you. I don't know what's wrong with me. Cause I know I need my wrist. But if I don't stay about night sleep on day I ain't in my best. Hey, yes. Welcome back to the Jet Force show and if we talk about those six times. Thank you for staying with us on this Thursday morning. I've been able to program a four, say, sitter, Dick Baroob acre, that's about 45 minutes from now. Uh, Tim, what are why they are after that New York mayor, the violence have been doing the same stuff for 10 years for years. Yeah, I agree. What's the deal here? Why is the standard of justice? And neither one of these like figures are like what I would say very friendly to the conservative Republican cause. But there's a clear double standard here. Uh, mayor accepted illegal donations, including luxury gifts and travel. Mr. Plot, Hey brother, I'm back home for fishing. They catch anything her heart, but I'm watching the video of the podcast. He's on interviewing Mark Cuban. Well, Mr. plot, I love you to death, but like this is a radio show, text line. And you're sending me what you're watching, which is not listening to the show. Maybe you do it both. Uh, but I don't really, this is not really relevant to our discussion. Don't do that. Jim, my son is in the guard. I don't think it's a good idea to use it. They're not police. They, at the citizens of Birmingham, not willing to help the police or change the people in charge that they get what they have. But this is kind of getting beyond the control of the city authorities. Um, I know it's controversial thing to say, but why would you take this option off the table? At what point? Uh, when, when do? When, when, when is it appropriate? At what point can we say? It's time to do that. Uh, I'm serious. Like I'm going to throw this out there. At what point is it appropriate that you would be okay to green light at least some kind of state National Guard presence on the streets of any city in Alabama at the crime got to a certain point? How would you feel about that in Mobile if things were really bad? Let's let's change this. Let's say somebody got gunned down outside of, uh, one of the bars will dolphin street. Four people get it. This had been a regular occurrence in your city. Why would you be okay with that? Would you at least want to discuss it? And that's what we're trying to do here. We'll be right back. This is FM talk. One of six, five. Oh, just as true as mine. Good night, angel. Sleep tight, darling. They close your pretty brown eye. From Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach at all points in between. An insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Porshow. I don't think hang down in this way. Welcome back to the Jeff Porshow and FM talk. One of those six, five. Thanks for sticking around on this Thursday morning. I'm just trying to keep it like relevant to the discussion. Do the subject matter of the program and not what you saw in a podcast. I would appreciate that. Especially podcast. I have no earthly idea what the hell you're talking about. But anyway, enough of that. Once again, you want me to talk a little bit about the project. I have no idea. I have no idea. What the hell you're talking about. But anyway, enough of that. Once again, you want to be in touch with the show. It is two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six. Coming up in about 30 minutes from now. Dick Baroobaker, a former state senator. Former congressional candidate will be with us. So please stay tuned for that. We'll get through these texts while I have the opportunity. Leah. Good morning, Jeff. Putting National Guard Birmingham is a total waste of time. This is to force a curfew with the ability to open fire on anything that moves. Without that, it's a waste of time. You can't send young National Guardmen out there with ammo. And if he uses it, he goes to jail. But doesn't the idea of like a dash of guardmen in a potential? I don't think you need them on every street corner in the city of Birmingham. But there are some like kind of the places I will occur. The places where we know there's criminal gang activity. And the places where at least some kind of a perimeter. Where there are people go, where there's commerce, where there is even the nightlife. Some sort of like, I'm not like checking your idea or a gate. But you are, you park your car and you walk a couple of blocks. And there's, you know, before you get to where people are gathered for whatever it is. There's a, there's a baby five or six National Guard, so it's scattered out around. If you don't have the police power to do this, the point, there ought to be cops. It ought to be police officers, but they don't have the personnel. That's, that's what we're going to take. We're going to take state troopers off the roads in Alabama and put them in the city of Birmingham. No, and here's the deal, the other part of this. People aren't going to like that. The mayor, especially, is not going to like this presence. So it gives him the incentive to get off his butt and try to fix this. Because right now it doesn't seem like he is being very proactive. He's, he's memeing on Facebook, okay? Scott, Jeff, I need to be a, be the dead horse, but I'm still peed at. Paul Feynbaum for giving the mayor Birmingham such a glowing review a few weeks ago. I saw that. Feynbaum's not very good at politics. Josh, first of all, we got to get permission from Nancy Pelosi at Representative Sarah Sisko to use Alabama's National Guard in Birmingham, just kidding, hopefully. I need texture. As for using National Guard as a police force, support to understand the repercussions of doing this as a wife of a guardsman. I can tell you that our National Guardsmen are not soldiers. They are citizens who are specialties that do not need to do a policing when we use our guardsmen for things like George Floyd riots or the January 6 riots. Or rehoming Afghanistan refugees and we wear them down. We wear them out. We hurt the families and their businesses. Fortunately, we can't recruit National Guardsmen. But isn't, you don't just join the National Guard because it's like the elks club. I mean, I don't want to be late. That blunt. But why do we even have a National Guard then? I'm sorry that it's hard to recruit National Guardsmen, but why do we even have a National Guard? It times a civil unrest. And I think just gang violence is reaching that point. Why bother? Why even have a National Guard? We're just going to wait for the hurricanes to come and then maybe we could deploy a National Guard. Maybe we'll wait until Richard Spitzer or some other crackpot speaks at Auburn University. Did we get deployed to the National Guard? I mean, we have a governor that's willing to declare a state of emergency when there's a tropical storm. That's about to make landfall. I mean, she'll call a state of emergency if there's a tropical, a low system pressure out in the Gulf and no one thinks twice about it. She's very, very free willing when it comes to weather. Thunderstorms. Thunderstorms that you and I used to like got to go to school through. Back in the 80s and 90s. Governor will now call a state of emergency before you know that the lightning even hits the ground. But this apparently doesn't rise to that level. Michael, is in a coincidence Mayor Oskar says about administration immigration policy and he got slapped with an investigation. So let's write down the road. I saw a blue truck pulling a yellow boat. I'm not sure what that foretells Michael, but I don't know. It's quite that direct. Like this mayor probably did some bad things. But there's just certainly have the. It has the hallmarks of a witch hunt. Jim, I agree to send force like the untouchables the governor of the ability said help. But that's to be wanted and supported by the populace. I think you're getting there with the support of the populace. I don't think it's that far. I mean, I want to look at van initially said it till she got reprimanded by light. I don't know who, but she's backed off of it. I want to look at van a state lawmaker very outspoken state lawmaker. Toothless bammer. I was asked for more assistance from Biden for migrant crisis and today is being charged with all kinds of kind of stuff. Mainly accepted contributions for install. It sounds like he didn't cut Hunter and Biden on the deal. A text or excuse the typos. It almost ends up from the National Guard to serve as a police force. As for using the National Guard as a police force, it's two itches. They're not going to join the city. I think I think we're not asking for the day invasion of Birmingham. We don't want them to. We don't want the National Guard to storm the Vulcan statue. But how hard would it be to station some National Guard troops around some of these hot spots? Like, why is this so like third rail to people? Well, what do we need? Like five more drive-bys and then we'll think about it. The mayors of these cities are not getting the job done. That's the point. Yeah, it's something we don't have to deal with in our neck and the woods, thankfully, and I will say this. Give it a circumstance. And I know that Mobile has some serious, serious problems in his police department. But holy cow, you really don't have the same thing. They're dealing with in Birmingham. Be, be glad of that. But pretend this is your neighborhood. Pretend you do have like open gang warfare gunfights on Florida street or something. We'll say you had drive-by shootings on airport Boulevard on a regular basis. And you have a very unresponsive city apparatus. The mayor Stimson was too. He was in, let's say he was in DC shilling for another candidate. As the cases was Mayor Stephen Reed. How would you feel about that? Luckily, we don't have that situation in Mobile. But I think when there are, there are times when those, I think we're fast approaching it. I don't think you take the option off the table. I'm not saying doing it right now, but I don't think we're that far from it. Uh, community that's one of these says we want to link a van to college with. My only one's agreeing with you. That should tell you all you need to know. No, I don't think I do. The only ones agreeing with me. I think they're a lot more to agree with me. You may not. You may be fine with, um, with, with, uh, the gangs owning the streets in Birmingham. Community. That's what I want to be because it's pretty safe and your mom's a basement. Well, you hate listening to the Jeff Porsche. I named texture implementation of the National Guard would call some folks to call it racist. I'll pick it on the black folks again. But I think there's a lot of black folks that want something to change. I bet if you pulled it. In the city of barbecue. You would find some level of support for this. No officers because of the no prosecution. Yeah, and we don't really have a good solution for that. We have, we don't have enough prisons. Uh, aren't all these shooters just exercises or constitutional rights to protest against the treatment of George Floyd? I don't. The left in the state, aside from what my art in an arch ball. And. Wandling a van. I guess there's probably more. Those are three who spoke out, but there's a lot of left wingers in the state who are making it about the guns that they want more gun penalties. They want more gun laws. The, this is very cynical, but the big 10 mayors are going to unroll or going to unveil a. An effort to repeal the constitutional carry law. And they're going to use the situation of Birmingham as a justification. Tommy battle yesterday, just railing against it, the mayor of Huntsville. Like that's their policy objective. They got two policy objectives guys that would erase taxes on internet sales. It collected for these cities. Number one and number two. Number two. They want to take, they want to roll, they want to reintroduce to permit requirement for firearm in the state of Alabama. The people running these, these big cities of Birmingham are not conservative for the most part. I don't know. I don't know where Finley, a broccano are. I'm a mayor of Hoover is pretty terrible. These are not like you're, you don't need the big 10 mayors. Dictating to the rest of the state. Something that's covered under Second Amendment. Jerry, they're getting everything they voted for. Good for them. I don't, I don't just think there's, there's certain sacred cows in these cities. You got to protect our Jerry. Michael, I'm not okay at Birmingham, but this is just rewards for their political societal choices. This is a result of the baby mom of mindset. I'm just, I wore a caution here though. Let's look at Montgomery and how far away, what, what if a lawmaker or a state official or somebody of that level gets killed by like a, you know, maybe not directly a victim, but just an innocent bystander or something like that happens. So this is a reckless disregard for the law, gun safety, all of the like things we used to just kind of accept in these cities and these mayors and their police departments don't seem to be able to get a handle on it. That's the point I'm trying to make and government has to function at that level. We'll be right back. We'll be right back to the talk, one of six, five. We'll be right back, we'll be right back, we'll be right back, we'll be right back. Welcome back to the Jeff Moore show that the talk, one of six, five, thank you for staying with us on this Thursday morning. Nick segment we'll hear from Dick Baru Baker, former state senator, former congressional candidate, Montgomery. So he thinks of some of these refugee resettlement in Alabama and understandably like, you know, I think the state has some tools that they can use. I mean, I feel like a big government guy today, national guard troops in the streets and using the power of the state government to crack down on these non-government organizations trying to resettle migrants in every little looking cranny that they can find that have an Alabama presence. I mean, should they be licensed or why can't the state of Alabama investigate these people for committing fraud? I think there's being fraud committed against these refugees and if they have, if they're doing so within the state boundaries of Alabama, why wouldn't that be something that's criminally prosecuted? Uh, Jerry, the first time they had to defend themselves every domestic terror group from the ACLU to the SBLC will be screaming syphilis. I thought April Marie lived in Foley, my mistake. You should go back to Birmingham broadcast here, WAVH is it where you need to be. You might want to see it to National Guard is available to pull all the immigrants, all Oklahoma, your feeble tigers will Saturday. Well, thank you for that syphilis. Maybe you ought to go find a steady job instead of texting to this radio program 251343 0106 if you want to be in touch with the program, please, please use the text line programming note coming up tomorrow's show. I forgot to mention this Todd Stacey Alabama daily news because it is Friday. State Senator will barfoot and I wanted to get him on to talk about the gang problem. And the legislature through this very, very tedious, exhaustive process to pass laws that are supposed to crack down on this presence of gangs in Alabama and rural and urban areas. But it feels like that gang activity has increased since this law was passed. I'm not blaming the law, but I feel like the law is just not being maybe enforced the way it should be or maybe it's not necessarily the deterrent that we hoped it would be. But I'm eager to get Senator Marfaits thoughts on that. Then his colleague will talk to you after that state Senator Chris Elliott, our returning champion, always good to hear from him. Anyway, that's come up on tomorrow's program back to the news here, Hurricane Elene that talking to, like I said, one of my friends at Tallahassee this morning, I mean, he's going to, he's going to hunker down, but it's the fear of flooding and the stores are moving very, very fast and on a blow through pretty quick, but it's going to leave a path. Apple, actually, even you ever guys spent time there that St. George's Island, Apple Michael several years ago, but they're, they go through these stores at least one a decade. I mean, Apple, it's a college, it just always looks like it's under this state of duress because of the remnants of a hurricane at one time or another, but that's part of its charm if you've ever spent any time there. It's a cool, cool place. You never been there, you got to go check it out, 2-5-1-3-4-3, 0-1-0-6, we'll be right back, this is the Jeff Borschowel at the talk, 1-0-6-5. Text line 2-5-1-3-4-3-0-1-0-6, if you need to get in touch with the program, that's what you got to do. You got to hit me up on the text line. Joining us now, we did this from time to time, it's always my pleasure to bring on former state senator Dick Brubaker, how you been? I've been great, just sitting out here on my porch, watching it rain in Montgomery, Alabama, but life's good. That's good to hear. I'm glad to hear you, it sounds like you take it a little easy these days. Well, oddly enough, you think so, but it is a nature of course of vacuum and people, well, since you're not in the car business anymore and aren't going to be in Congress, we have all of these good works you can do, you need to be on this board and that board and do this and do so. I'm finding the opportunity for lots of unpaid good work. I think I'm spending more time in offices than I did when I was working full time. Wow, well, how about that? Well, you also have time for this program, so I think you get off here and I know that this is not a popular opinion, but I'm sticking with this that why not at least having on the table that if the tissues deteriorate, and I don't think we're that far from it, why not have the National Guard, at least some minimal National Guard presence in these be beleaguered cities of Montgomery and Birmingham have needed now, that's a bit, but why not? I don't think everybody could, I think you're absolutely right, but here's what people really need to understand, you know, we Republicans are very comfortable blaming everything on Democrats, but if the Governor of Alabama wanted the patient drop offs to stop, they'd stop. Yeah, and if she was really willing to go to the mat, if our attorney general was willing to go all in, they would probably stop, but the problem is a lot of Republican interests want these people here, people that benefit from cheap labor, and I don't question the federal government's rights to bring in groups and call them protected, but they do not have the right to drop them on small towns, like what is Fair Hope going to do, I mean the Fair Hope City Schools, the effect on law enforcement, housing crime, the federal government can't just, they do not have a constitutional right just to dump people on small town America, whether it's silicata or Fair Hope, and it's time for the Governor and the Attorney General and the sheriff and the National Guard if necessary to start standing up for Alabama. Well, let me say this now, on the Haitian migrants, we're going this direction here, but I think they're being brought here under like kind of like they're being misled to come to these places, at least has to take away from somebody's policymakers that they're being promised jobs or be a promised housing, but they're having to pay for it, a fee for it or whatever, which is just out now fraud. If that's going on within the borders of Alabama, why isn't that prosecutable? It is prosecutable, but someone's got to have the will to prosecute the worst. I mean, this Haitian thing, I don't know, I mean, I know things in Haiti are very bad, but you're not going to solve that problem by making things in silicaga and Fair Hope very bad. Even at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, the US military is building a huge housing facility to house Haitian, I don't know, refugees, whatever you want to call them, I mean, even on Guantanamo Bay. So this is more than just Fair Hope in silicaga, but I'm sure you, I'm sorry. Well, there's the other thing that I am concerned about, okay, there's a disconnect here, Senator between the state officials, the lawmakers and even the AG and so many others and these municipal, the city governments, Fair Hope, they, they could not be more disdainful to the people who were there to complain or express their concern about the way all this could be handled in their city, the same for silicaga, except for one city councilwoman, the mayor there was just like, it's all rumor, they're here legally, you, you, you shut up, you racist, bigoted people. Well, yeah, I think that, I don't know, you know, I know that, you know, municipal elections Alabama are nonpartisan, but might there be like a financial incentive to, for, for these local governments at the county and city levels to take money from the federal government to house these? And that's why they're not as straight and Lee opposed to it. Give me, are they, are the cities being paid? You betcha. Right. So jobs goes, these employers are being paid, they're all sorts of federal tax credits that a chicken processor or a manufactured housing guy could get if he's willing to provide jobs for these folks. The problem is who's going to reimburse the silicaga city schools or the Fair Hope city schools or the police departments or the family do or one way or another damage by this, nobody. So the city will get paid, employers will be able to get cheap labor and let's face it. A lot of Republican interests, whether it's alpha or BCA or whoever, they have never been big on shutting off the supply of cheap illegal labor. And that's just the truth. Well, that's another thing why there's all this talk and no action. It's very, it's very exploitive, right? They're taking advantage of it. Yeah. And here's, I mean, the last 10 years, it's all been about economic development and the entirety of, of Kivies 10 years governor. It's about, she's the jobs governor, right? She's, she's doing things to bring jobs to Alabama and, and that's great. But if we're creating all these jobs and the jobs are, they're having to import workers to fill these jobs, then what's the point? Give us a, like a tax worker, something that's dead. We haven't done anything to address the fact that our workforce participation rate is less than 50%. It's still one of the lowest in the country. And when it comes to the character of small town being altered by hostile actions on the part of the federal government, the, you know, Birmingham and Mobile could probably stand up to them, but little towns like Fair Hope and Silicon, the only people who can stand up for them are the executive branch of government at the state level. And that is not happening. And I'm, and I'm telling you, Will Ainsworth, um, Tommy Tupper, really, anybody's thinking about running for governor, here's an opportunity to show whose side you're on. Are you on the side of regular American citizens who are just trying to have a safe community and good schools, doesn't Fair Hope have a city school system? No, it's county, but it's weird the way they do it. We have like a feeder system and they, they, they collect property taxes in Fair Hope that supplement the county school here. So, but if you look at like Robert Stowe, oh, actually it's not quite as high. So it's, so how are they going to pay, you know, the FBI's been trying to hire 18 Creole language interpreters for the FBI, 18 for the southeast of the last two and a half years and can't build a job position. What is the cost burden going to be on the Fair Hope school system to try to educate these people's children? And who's going to pay for that? Well, the taxpayers of that county and it's just wrong. This is the, I mean, this is a seizure of city and county resources that the state does not have to put up with and to benefit who people offering low skill jobs, they'll get to hire people cheap. They won't have to go through the normal hiring process and they'll benefit. But what about these communities? Well, it's just such, there's such arrogance and disdain at the city level. It's remarkable watching the Fair Hope city council the other night, they felt like they were being put upon. And I just think that's, how hard is it to fake it in these situations and they're not even willing to do that? Well, and when bad things happen and there's an incident, I'm not, you know, I don't want to, I don't want to, I mean, I hope everything works out and everybody just ends up singing kumbaya, holding hands, but that's not the way it's worked out in other places. I mean, and one reason I think there's been a shift in federal focus away from placing people in these sorts of protected classes in big cities like Chicago and now they're putting them in small rural communities. The reason is that a lot of very influential black Democrat politicians have said, no, that's enough. I mean, you're offering benefit to these people who aren't even citizens that my constituents, you know, who've lived here for generations aren't getting. And so enough is enough. And you know, the national media covers it, it gets all over social media. So now they're dropping these people on small communities that imply over country that the media just doesn't care about. I mean, you think anybody at CNN gives a damn, what happens to Fair Hope or Sillicada? No, they should not be racist, diversity is our strength. Well, and the problem is the right kind of diversity, but people in Sillicada wouldn't like it any better if they dropped 300 Ukrainians on them. I mean, you can't place these sorts of burdens on small communities whose tax base is fragile as it is. Well, funny, funny you mentioned the Ukrainians, and I'll tell you the latest idea. The city count, there's a city councilman of Fair Hope, there were three people who signed a letter that was like a very, very, very flowery, very high-minded, if you will, about refugee resettlement in their local communities. And two were state lawmakers, Travis Hendrix, the guys got the whole fire plump sheet in Birmingham, and Thomas Action Jackson, the Thomasville, not totally unexpected there. But a Fair Hope City Councilman by the name of Corey Martin signed that letter as well. And confronted about, you know, like, whoa, you're speaking on behalf of the city of Fair Hope that we need more refugees, that refugees are good. Okay, what's going on here? And he knows, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I signed it two years ago. And I was really talking about Ukrainian refugees, not these Haitian refugees, as if one is better than the other, which is... Well, yeah, I would suggest that he's missing the point. Yeah. A small town can actually absorb a group of dislocated, a community of people who don't speak the language, who are not ready to contribute, don't have any housing, don't have any money, and they're just going to be... And not that things won't get better over time, but there's a reason that we've gone from placing these sorts of classes of protected individuals in big cities that do have the resources, because they make too much noise, you know, people who have been injured. So now they're taking them to places like Silicon and Fair Hope, where they think they can get away with it, and the leadership in Alabama is allowing them to get away with it. Now, legislators can't do anything about it. They don't have any authority in things like this, so don't blame your legislator. But people in the executive branch of state government, they could do something. They're just choosing not to. Well, let's start with that. I mean, what do you think tools they have that they can use to stop it? Well, for the Attorney General, I think the whole legality of federal government without significant public periods of public comment, they don't have the right to drop large groups of people on a municipality, especially one that doesn't have the resources to bear the cost, and states have a right to protect their assets from conversion by the federal government. And I think you can pursue that, and I think Kay Ivey, I think Greg Abbott, who was willing to stand up against what he thought was illegal federal action, has proven that if worse comes to worse, you can put these people, put these groups of people and take them to other jurisdictions, the Justice Department will complain about it and fuss at you, but at the end of the day, they can't stop you. I mean, there's a lot that can be done if people have the will to do it. No, I don't know that they got the will necessarily. I just, one thing I'd say, even rhetorically, the governor's like very quiet on this. She's put out a few statements, but you don't, but then again, I guess I should say this Senator, the governor hasn't been very outspoken in years. Well, you know, all in all, I mean, Kay has managed to govern two terms without corruption scandals, which is an achievement in Alabama. And so I give her full marks for that, but, and I'm not sure who is driving policy in the executive branch, but they're driving policy, like you said before, in the favor of the Manufacturers Association and the Business Council of Alabama and Alpha and people like that, not trying to see how we can create the best communities for our children to grow up in. And the idea that this is, is based on race is absurd. I mean, you talk to, you know, parents and, you know, black parents in public school systems and say, how do you feel about a large group of kids who go to speak English being put in your child's elementary school that's already stretched for resources? I mean, I haven't read anywhere where the federal government is going to come in and bring in teachers that don't come out of the local school budget, or ESL people, or special ed teachers, or the nursing care lot, you know, but what I've read, a good percentage of these people in this protected class have, you know, have pretty serious health issues. I mean, all that's going to be a burden on the local infrastructure, and I'm not sure that small towns like Silicon Fairhope can bear that bird. So, uh, Senator, we've got to leave it there, we're out of time, but I always appreciate you coming on to make it time for us. Hey, anytime. Thanks for letting me be on your show. Yes. Thanks for coming on again. I'm Jake Brubaker, we'll be right back, this is FFFTALK, 10065. We'll go back to the JetPort show and FFFTALK, 10065, they're just staying with us on that. Let's look to this Thursday morning. Will, uh, will Donald Trump do Dixieland right? That's the question on Saturday, uh, come on tomorrow to program. I'll have a daily news is Todd Stacey, state center will barfoot a pike road and our attorney champion state senator Chris Elliott squirrel, the media barely reports about black opposition to immigrants though. Uh, oh, you got a much longer text before that. This kind of short time here on a texture, I was 15 years old. You got my church sponsor families, 15 year old, a Vietnamese son, a job at McDonald's, where I actually worked as a fry cook, uh, these type of, uh, uh, resettlement was done successfully to pass when South Vietnam collapsed and brought those people here into our society. All right. Well, uh, thanks for that. Kind of your shortly midday mobile, Sean, what you got today, Jeff speaking of the game, so I was thinking about this yesterday too, uh, that so Senator temperville is going to be there. Senator Brit. I mean, the, the Trump thing, the Brit thing. Okay. What happens when, when coach, uh, they put him on the jumbo try, I don't know how they're going to do it though. You know, hey, uh, in attendance tonight here at Brian did it will, well, yeah, that's what I was talking about that yesterday, trying to talk to my, uh, by fellow, uh, Bama fans here graduate. Hey, hasn't, he hasn't been to a game yet. I don't know. I just got a bit of a game. Well, at least one. It does go to. Well, he's been, you don't have to ask Senator as a Senator. Yeah. Okay. Here's what worries me though. Well, we'll watch this happen. If that goes on and he gets booed, national media that has no context, what will the story be? Oh, yeah. Yeah. But they're the Alabama is turning against the politics of Senator, you know, the, they'll catch this and run them with it. You'd be like, no, that's actually about football. Is there, is there any chance that they cheer him and Brian, Denny? I, I do think there is. I do think there is. I don't go on like the message boards and stuff, but I figure there's got to be some of that communication out there. I cuz like, I mean, Tuscaloosa went overwhelmingly for Senator Tuberville over Doug Jones. Yeah. So I mean, you would think, but I mean, at some point too, if, you know, you, you know, it's a later game. I spent a little time in Galette's I've had, I mean, wasn't that, wasn't that the thing though? Right. It was this. It was. Now come his, like, all the time to win a US Senate seat or went to Republican primary or whatever. And it never came up. No, it didn't. It didn't. Now he had a good response. But it did. It was. If it were for me, guys, y'all never would have gotten Nick Saban. True. And there's a difference in how people were on a sober Tuesday, you know, when they got a vote would react versus Saturdays in the fall, man. And, you know, I will see. I hope everybody acts right. I feel to see we're under the foot of it, we're like Nick Saban at Jordan era, I would be the hell out of him. Of course. Cause you're classless. Yeah. Exactly. I'm that guy. I got to get out of here. It has been a pleasure. I will try to do better tomorrow. And I will still not eat it. Talk across. So this has been the Jeff Ford show. What if it talk? One, oh, six, five. Yes. One, two, say. This is where the cowboy rides the wish. This is where the cowboy rides the wish. Thank you. [BLANK_AUDIO]