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So A332880973, let's get into it. If you had one shot, one opportunity to take down the human allmanack himself, how would he do? Now is your time. Listen to me, this guy. Stangers. Now is your opportunity to win a prize. Well, I hope you know what you're in for. Chris versus the fans starts now on 97.3, the fan. All right, the rules, you have to make it through three questions. Each question will get more difficult. If you get the question right, you move on. If you get the question wrong and Brayden gets it right, you're eliminated. But if Brayden gets it wrong, then you move on to the next question or you win. And Chris versus the fans is presented by SD fat loss, lose 20 to 30 pounds in just 60 days. Visit sdfatloss.com to schedule your free consultation. One more rule. If you are a first time play, let us know before you get into it and you'll get that first question for free. I don't even really know how that came about, but everywhere we go now, when we do stuff out and about, people yell, "Playa!" Adam, have you ever heard this story? There's a listener who works in a hospital and they're like an intake person at the hospital, and some guy was checking in for the first time. And I guess our listener said, "Oh, so you're a first time playa!" That's great. That is great. I thought that was funny. The guy said he looked at him like, "Huh? What is going on here? I'm in the hospital." All right, here we go. Let's get to our first contestant. Let's go to Alex in Cardiff. Hello, Alex. How are you? I'm doing great. How are you guys? Pretty good. Pretty good. Here we go. You're playing Braden. So, question number one. Which NFL player is known as the refrigerator? I don't know. Okay, you're playing the game. It's not that great. Do you know who is known as the refrigerator? It's a refrigerator like Perry, something Perry? That is great. I'll give it to you. I'm sorry about that. Alex, William Perry. William Perry. When I was a kid, my grandpa or my dad basically grew up in Chicago. So I knew all about the fridge growing up. He basically did? Or he did? He did. He moved out of town, and then he came back, but basically he was a Chicago guy, and so I knew, "Oh, it's a fridge." Which is not Perry. That's Icky Woods. That was yes, though. He's doing the Icky shuffle. You know what? Let's go to a long time, Chris vs. the fans player. Brandon. Hello, Brandon. What up? Gravy? Not too much. What's up? All right. I know Brandon has played before, so here we go. Question number one. What year did the basketball world witness the dream team? 92? 92 is? Correct. Nice job, Brandon. Here we go. Second question. Let me start that over. What is it called when a volleyball player wins a point due to a successful immediate attack? A fight that is incorrect. I mean, I think that's -- anyway, go ahead, Brandon. It'd be a kill. A kill is correct. I'm sorry, Brandon. I played volleyball at high school. You did? It was a libero. Oh. It was small amount of time. Look at you. So I know volleyball. I guess so. I did not. This is knowledge I did not have until today. He's the questions are corrupt. I know all of them. He told me all the questions. All right. Let's go to Jason. Hello, Jason. Hey. Good afternoon, gentlemen. How are you doing? I am doing fantastic. All right. Here we go. Question number one. There are two teams that have won the most Super Bowl titles. Name both. It's obviously Dallas Cowboys is won. And I'm going to say I might be wrong, but there are just the 49ers. Thank you for mentioning my team. That is incorrect. Stay right there. Brandon, do you know the two teams who have tied for most Super Bowl titles? Were they both incorrect? I can't tell you that. I can't say. I'd say the Steelers and the 49ers. Incorrect. You are still alive, Jason. It's the Steelers and the Patriots. The Patriots passed up. I love it. Everybody thinks the 49ers have won so many Super Bowls. That makes me feel good. That's because they had the best team money can buy before. Okay. Maybe you shouldn't feel good because they didn't actually win this game. They haven't won. They've been the last time they've won. It was 1995. This is my team's never won one and they've gotten humiliated. Okay. All right. I was born. 49ers have lost the last three that they've played in, so all right. Here we go, Jason, question number two. What Major League Baseball player has walked the most times this season? I'm going to go with the obvious. It's going to be either. Let's go with that judge. Judge is correct. I thought you were going to go Juan Soto there for a second because Juan Soto leads the league and walks all the time. I did write this question yesterday, but I think Aaron Judge has enough walks between him and Juan Soto. You don't know. I'm just checking. I wrote this yesterday. I don't think Juan Soto is going to get four. Okay. Yes. Aaron Judge is now he's leading by five walks. So I'm saying. Oh my God. All right. Third and final question. Yes. It's the same. Unless Juan Soto walked five times yesterday, there was no chance he could have but he did not. All right. Uh, Jason, who is the shortest player to have ever played in the NBA? Spud web. Spud web is a great answer. It isn't correct. Stay right there. Great. Who's the shortest player to have ever played in the NBA? Muggsy. We know that Brayton's a huge MBA. I forgot. I forgot. Is that the dude in the space jam? Was it? Bugsy? What's his name? Muggsy Boggs, something like that. Muggsy Boggs. Wow. Muggsy Boggs is correct. Thank you. Space jam. Thank you. Space jam. Yes. Muggsy was five foot three. I love Muggsy Boggs growing up. He was great. He was great in space. Did he ever play for the Hawks? I feel like he, no? Okay. Uh, let's go to our next. Spud web did. Spud web. Okay. That's where I got it mixed up. Let's go to our next contestant. We're going to go to Jake and Oceanside. Hello, Jake. Hey. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Here we go question number one. Who is the first? Actually, I'm sorry. That's a question. Number two. What is the name of the trophy awarded to the Super Bowl champions? Oh, my God. The Lombardi Trophy. Correct. Technically, Vince Lombardi Trophy, but you're fine. Everybody calls it the Lombardi Trophy. Question number two, Jake. Hmm. Who holds the record for the most receiving touchdowns in a single season? Wow. Um, Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice is incorrect. I think that's the... Brain who is the, or who holds the record for most receiving touchdowns in a single season? Straight cash. Tell me, Randy Moff. Wow. That is correct. You had 23 touchdowns. Because of the Patriots, right? Yes, it was. It was. Straight cash. Tell me. Straight cash. Show me. You know what commercial I love is the one with all the old guys. Oh, yeah. They come back. And it's Smith and Dan Marino. He's trying to look at his play sheet and he's got his glasses on. Um, but I think we're going to have to go tiebreaker right now because we, uh, got to move things along a little bit. So here's how the tiebreaker works, Braden. I'm going to guess a random player. Let's get an A's player. Let's go Dennis Eckersley. And I'm going to ask you for a number. It's going to make sense in a second. I just got to get a statue. Is this like a, is this like a magic trick? No, it's not like a magic trick. So I'm going to ask you, uh, and Jake is, Jake is eliminated, right? Yes. Jake is eliminated. Okay. Let's go to Benoit. Benoit, are you there? Yes, sir. All right. Here we go. We are playing the tiebreaker. So Braden, how many saves did Dennis Eckersley have in his career? I don't know. 325. 325. Benoit is the actual answer. Higher or lower? Oh, higher. Higher is correct. Nice job. Benoit, you are the winner. You stay right there. We're going to get your information. The actual number of saves. 390 in Dennis Eckersley's career. Can't believe that guy. He played for 24 years. It says right here. Three not. What did I say? Three what? 325. You weren't too bad. We're too bad. All right. We have our winner. We're going to go to break. When we get back, we're going to discuss Fernando Tati's Jr. Mookie Betts. Do we have an issue with them sitting down for a podcast this week? We'll talk about it when we get back on 97 through the fan. It's better over here. AT&T customers switching to T-Mobile has never been easier. We'll pay off your existing phone and give you a new one free. All on America's largest 5G network. Visit T-Mobile.com/carrierfreedom to switch today. Pay off up to $650 via virtual prepaid master card in 15 days. Free phone up to $830 via 24 monthly bill credits plus tax. Qualifying, porting, trade and service on Go 5G next to credit required. 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Two more second segments to go before the '97 through the fan Roundtable replay. They did this morning, so that'll happen at 5 p.m. And then you have Sammy Levitt with the EcoWater SoCal Padres pregame show starting at 6/10 today. So stick around. We still have the big five left. In this segment, we are going to talk about floating around the internet all afternoon long. And I guess the people out there have somewhat of an issue. So I'll play it first, and then we'll talk about it. But the Mookie Betts had Fernando Tati's Jr. on his podcast. And it must have been recorded like yesterday, because in the podcast they talked about the triple play. But here is what Mookie said about the situation. A lot of people in the chat, I'm sure, in the comments and whatnot, are thinking that they're saying that it's funny and kind of crazy that we're doing a podcast right now in the midst of the race. And so my take on it, and I'll let you talk, but my take on it is the game during the game, but we'll be fighting to win the game. Like that's a given, that's between the lines, right? But I think I may have said it before. Like the brotherhood that's created playing this game is what you'll always remember. When we get older, we're going to always remember Tati's as a great player, right? But I'm going to remember who you were, the person that you are, how you treated me, how our relationship more than the baseball stuff. So for me, right now, we're living a normal life. Yeah, it's fire. This is a normal life. Now, when the game starts, we're fighting, right? So I want to hear your take on it. What do you think about it? I definitely appreciate this, because like you mentioned, this is what we're going to take. We're going to remember the homeroins and like the heads and all that is pretty, but you know, the people that you meet on the way that at the same time, so many different backgrounds, but at the same time, also so similar, you know. Very similar. Yeah, very similar and like sharing stories and like having that respect for that guy that you know how much of hard work you need to do to be in the place that you are. And being, you know, around people with that same amount of workload, that same amount of dedication of passion for the game. I mean, it's probably the best thing that you're going through. That's what we do. And you can find the rest of that. You can find the interview online if you just search for Mookie Bette's podcast. But the major issue apparently is that Fernando Tati Jr. And Mookie Bette sit down to talk about baseball during the season, during a divisional race. And I'm assuming that happened yesterday before the game that they played, so they still didn't know which team was going to win last night. And so it could have been a different result. The Dodgers ended up winning. My take on this is who cares. They are friends. It's okay to be friends with other people on friends with people in this business. Brains friends with people in this business. Adam, you're just kidding. Sam, don't even get me started on Sam. Adam knows people. But basically, this is not the era anymore where guys have to hate each other, in my opinion. I don't care if a guy is sitting there spitting in some guy's face because he's so locked in on being a San Diego Padres. I can't talk to a Dodger. I hate you. That's just not how this world works anymore. That's just not how I operate. And this is a non-issue for me. If anything, I think this is great. Because now you get to see two high-level baseball players, two superstars, sitting down and talking about current baseball events. And I think that's more valuable than being mad at them for having a podcast during the season. I think this is a good thing and I like it. I don't really have an opinion about it either way. All I do with people who don't understand is rivalries and sports are in the stands. They're not in the field or in the court. In terms of that utter hatred, it's a different time now. These guys are all colleagues. They all work for Major League Baseball. They're all in the same boat together. And eventually, especially with free agency and trades now, in this day and age of sport and the way they all start a game is. All these guys end up playing with each other at some point in time as well. They text each other all the time. They call each other. They're more alike than they are with the fans. They're in their own little world. I don't really have a problem with this. I know Dodger fans and Padres fans probably lose their mind. But again, the rivalry is in the stands. It's not in the field. The rivalry is in the fans. That's in all sports right now. You could talk about all the big college rivalries throughout college athletics. And that's like our school versus yours. But with the way the transfer portal is and the way that these guys all played high school ball together, they don't hate each other. At the end of the day, there might be some players that dislike other players in the league. They might have their own personal rivalries. But the reality is the rivalries in the stands, when it comes to sports, it's not in the field. These guys, they don't hate each other as much as maybe the fans do. JH619 on the chat said, "If it's Max Muncie, it's different." I kind of agree with that, but that's just mainly a joke. I don't think Max Muncie is going to have his own podcast. But I agree with you 100%. They cross each other's paths all the time. I think Mookie Betz is a cool dude. I think that he is a good guy. And I want to hear what he has to say with Fernando Taty's Jr. I mean, where can you get a breakdown of the triple play between two players on opposing sides unless they sit down for a podcast? This is a non-issue for me. You know what, dude? I used it during the break, and if anybody hasn't seen Heat, this is the scene where Al Pacino and Robert De Niro are sharing a cup of coffee together at the diner before the big heist goes down the next day. And they're talking about their lives and just the different perspectives as you have a bank robber and the cop that's trying to stop said bank robber. And they both know who each other are, and they both said they had this peaceful conversation, this civil conversation at the diner. And then as it ended, it was like, just understand if it's between you and me, you know, if you're in the way of me getting what I need to get, I will not hesitate. And the same thing was said by Al Pacino. I think the same thing is said in this conversation. I mean, obviously they're still going to compete against each other on the field, right, the next day and potentially in the postseason. But at the same time, I mean, they're still human beings like we are too. I'm not saying it's soft. I'm not saying they need to have the fight. I mean, I think people need to understand the reality of the situation. And in professional sports, the athletes are more like each other than they are like the fans. Exactly. And they work to get their aunt, they're employed by the same employer. They call up the fraternity of baseball. Right. It's they're employed by major league. Same thing like like scraping brought up in this industry. With the amount of people that move around from station to station in sports media, I mean, you're going to be on the same team and the other team. I've worked with a lot of people in town that are at different places now that might be considered rival places. I mean, at the end of the day, maybe the company is arrivals, but that doesn't mean us individually are. Right. And same thing said like when I was in high school, all the Catholic schools jumped into cathedral or saints, and I had so many friends that went to saints. And at the end of the game, you know, I'd like to kick my buddy's ass right in the game. But after the game, it was like, yeah, it was fine. We're going out to whatever after they let's go. And then you joke, you'd be like, remember how hard I hit you on that third down? Right. And then it's just fun. Because on the chat, something I think we should end with, which is when I was in the army, we had beef with all the other branches and vice versa. But when we were deployed, we were all fighting the same war. Yeah. And some of those dudes are still my best friends. Like they said in the video, Army Navy game, when they're playing the game, they're enemies. Right. When they're when the game is over, they're going to go to dinner together. And that doesn't mean like certain players don't just don't dislike other players. Because there are players that I'm sure the Padres players don't like on every team. And that might have a little bit of a rivalry there too. And there are some, there are some bad blood between a lot of teams just because traditionally the Padres and the Dodgers fans have butted heads doesn't mean all the Padres and Dodgers absolutely hate each other. Yeah. All right. We are coming to the final segment of this show. And then you'll have the Padres 97 through the fan round table at 5 p.m. But when we get back, we have the big five. And today we're going to talk about many different things as always. But the first thing we're going to talk about is no, no Joe and his surprising record against the Dodgers. I'm going to ask Tony and Braden for their thoughts. So stick with us here. We'll be back shortly on 97 through the fan back here in the Odyssey Palace 97 3 the fan. We have a big five right now. But first we need to get you your traffic report. It's that time of the show when we check on the latest in sports, only the most important topics and questions are brought to light. Stop what you're doing and listen. These news stories will astound and amaze you. The one, the only, oh my God, who the hell, Kish. The big five starts now on 97 3 the fan. All right, let's get started today with a little bit of no, no Joe talk because I was listening to the round table today and the morning show. And they and I heard Paul say it that Joe Musgrove. It's something that really, really, really surprised me in his career against the Dodgers. Joe Musgrove is 0 in 7 in 12 appearances against the team. He has an ERI at 4.48 in 62 K's in those 12 appearances. So I'm going to ask you this Tony and I think I know your answer, but is this a thing or is it coincidence? Right. Is it a thing or is it coincidence? Is this struggle against the Dodgers thing? You know, I understand fresh questions repeating it to myself. Okay. Sorry. I really may have for you to have anything to say. Yes. I think that it is not coincidence. I think the Dodgers have been amongst the best offenses in the game for the time frame that Joe has been a Padres. I assume those numbers were just what the Padres not prior to that. No. It's everything. It's everything as well. Yes, it does. Yeah. So I mean, as long as Joe has been in the league, the Dodgers have been one of the best offenses in baseball and so I don't think it's a coincidence, but I don't think it's a thing either. I think Joe has also gotten better over the course of time. I think his last few starts have probably dropped that ERA down a little bit because he's pitched better. I think, you know, it's a really good example of what we see in the first two games, right? Both pitchers, good pitchers, two of the best, Cease and King had their pitch counts run up and it's not necessarily about what they were doing. It's not all, I should say, about what they couldn't do. It's also about, you know, how the style in which the Dodgers play, they play a very similar style as a Padres or Padres are just better at it right now than they are. And so I don't think it's a thing either. I think it's not a coincidence, but it's not a thing because I think Joe has evolved and gotten better over time and listen, I think, you know, he has, the Dodgers have had his number, you know, in, you know, prior years. And so I don't think it's enough for you to, for, for there to be a change in terms of like not having him face the Dodgers. He's still one of your best pitchers. You don't remove that from the equation. All right, Braden, do you think Joe Musk grows winless streak against the Dodgers as a thing or coincidence? Well, I think Tony brings up a good point. I mean, if you're going against the Dodgers since Joe Musgrove started his major league career, have been one of the best teams in Major League Baseball. And if you go against some of the best, you're going to have usually not as great numbers against the best. But if you look at even further, because you can, you can manipulate data any way you want. Um, when did he become a Padres 20 after COVID, right? 2021. Oh, in 2018, he made one start against the Dodgers and gave up four runs, three of them earned. He's 0 and 1 of the 5.40 ERA in 2018 against the Dodgers 2019 0 and 2 of the 5.40 ERA. Soon as he joined the Padres 0 and 1 of the three ERA in 2021 0 and 2 of the 3.63 ERA in 2022 0 and 1 of the 3.38 ERA in 2023. So I mean, it's a lot better in a Padres uniform as he learns how to pitch and, and started to, you know, really gain his confidence in Major League Baseball and grow into the Major League Baseball player that he is. And then the one that really skews his numbers, as Tony mentioned, you know, was the game he started against him this year, or he was banged up two and two thirds innings he gave up seven or he gave up five earned runs on seven hits with two walks and two strikeouts as ERA this year against the Dodgers in just two and two thirds innings obviously is 16.88. So that numbers a lot higher than probably it should be. But when you're going against some of the best bats in Major League Baseball, it's, it's going to be a little bit higher than normal. But I, I think if you look at it from the perspective of him in a Padres uniform, it's not like they've destroyed Joe Musgrove, you know, as a, as a member of the Padres. All right. Number four, Aaron judge is having a season for the ages and even for the record books, the Yankee slugger hit his 57th home run last night against the Baltimore Orioles and in addition to pulling him closer to the 60 Homer threshold with four games to go, the Homer gave judge his 142nd RBI of the season, which makes him the first player since your, your guy, Tony Prince Fielder and Ryan Howard in 2009 to post 140 RBIs in a single season. Judge recorded 131 RBIs in his 62 Homer season in 2022, Braden in a hundred years are they going to talk about Aaron judge like we talk about Babe Ruth? Um, I don't know. I mean, I think, you know, Babe Ruth had just become just this iconic name in, in baseball and everybody knows about his name from, you know, movies and, and, and history and stuff like that. But, um, you know, I don't, I don't necessarily know. I mean, there might be another guy that comes through after judge that continues to put up big numbers, um, you know, but he's definitely, he's definitely playing himself into a Hall of Fame level career with the numbers that he has. I think it's just, it's different for era. Like every era of baseball is so different, um, in terms of the style of play, in terms of the rules, the amount of games and what have you, Aaron judge doing a lot of great things. And, you know, I, is there any other player that is, you know, up there with, with Babe Ruth? Um, you know, I think everybody, everybody's era has got their own kind of Babe Ruth player that they like to bring up. But, you know, are people going to say Aaron judge is the greatest baseball player of all time? Like we've heard for so long as kids growing up listening about Babe Ruth, I don't necessarily know if that's the case, but, um, you know, it's, it's interesting topic of discussion because Aaron judge is, is playing himself in the Hall of Fame these last couple of seasons. Tony, do you think in a hundred years they're going to talk about Aaron judge like we talk about Babe Ruth? I agree with, with Braden that there's probably there's probably going to be somebody that comes along and his name is actually show hail time, and that's what we'll be talking about. Yeah. Like Babe Ruth, when it's, when it's all said, Aaron judge doesn't pitch as it, as if he continues. He doesn't. He doesn't. And listen, I think Aaron judge will still have to get in line behind somebody like Barry Bond's before we, in terms of position players, but, uh, Otani right now, he's, he's set in a trail that only he is, is, or I should say he's whiting a trail that only Babe Ruth had been on. Um, so, um, I, I think that's who will be two kids in a hundred years. Most likely we'll be talking about if he continues to keep doing some of the things we've seen him through at this point. Guys, remember Mike Trout? Remember Mike Trout? How could I ever forget? Remember Mike Trout? Remember he was a baseball player that everybody thought was like kind of the same thing. These guys, they continue to get better and better and better. But I mean, like, I think Tony breaks up a good point. Show hail, Tony, computer there. Does Aaron judge get in a hundred years, get put behind? Show hail, Tony in terms of remembrance because show is just so much better. Yes. Hopefully we're playing baseball in a hundred years, but we'll see what he has. He's, he's, he's coming up in the wrong. He just, it's in terms of wanting to be the greatest ever, um, are in that conversation. I mean, he just come up at the raw, at the raw, at the raw time. Like any other time that there wasn't a dude who was pitching and hitting at the level that Oh, Tony is, is he would, we would be having that conversation about him. But unfortunately they're playing at the same exact time. And as long as he continues to do this, it's going to keep over and shattering overshadowing, Aaron judge. Ron Washington, the manager of the age, angels made this notable comment in the, in Ron Washington, everybody made this notable comment to the LA times yesterday in a story saying, quote, we're going to get some baseball players who may not be superstars, but they know how to play. We forgot to bring real baseball players into the organization. Everything against those guys here, but they're not big league baseball players and they certainly can't help us win a championship end quote. So he, uh, obviously this was a topic of conversation. So he was asked about today. And today he said, quote, I misspoke. I didn't mean it the way it came out, where I'm saying the organization isn't giving me big league players. It's players that have to grow into big league players, end quote. So Tony, what do you think of Ron Washington's bluntness? It's because beta spade is what it is. I mean, this is kind of the same conversation that, you know, we had, I don't know how long ago it was about, um, you know, athletes need to hear the truth sometimes and the like kind of, you know, different styles in which you can have, uh, here's why he has a leg to stand on, um, you know, cause we see, we see managers handle it differently, right? I think Mike, she'll certainly as a manager that at least publicly, he's never going to say anything bad or that can be perceived as negative towards the team. Now behind the scenes, when he's talking, he tells those guys the truth. That's a different way than what Ron is doing here. But the difference is, uh, unfortunately for those guys, they don't have much of a leg to stand on. I mean, as a team this year, they are 63 and 95, um, that's 22 games back. Uh, they have been outscored by 143 runs this year, I'm sure the guys in that locker room are big leaders. No, he's not talking about them. There are a few and there's some in there, no certain catcher, oh hop, oh hoppy, baller. Uh, they got some guys on there that can play, but there's a bunch of guys that, you know, are still trying to prove that they're big leaguers and I think that's what he's getting at. You get, you get some dudes who can play, who, you know, understand what it is to be a big leaguer and how to, how to play the game at that level. And you get better results than 63 and 95. Listen to Padres in 2023, where it's super talented team, um, that didn't do a lot of the things that need to be done in order to win games and they finished just above 500. And that's with a ton of talent. So imagine if you're not doing those things without that kind of talent. And that's what the Angels have right now and, you know, that's, uh, what he's getting at. We want some baseball players. They don't need to be superstars. They just need some, be some guys who can play. It's a good explanation, Tony. Uh, Braden, what do you think of Ron Washington's bluntness? Um, I, I think it's, uh, yeah, I think, I think you probably misspoke a little bit. I think we all can figure out what he was trying to say and it doesn't have, he doesn't have the big leaguers yet. I mean, they had a lot of young guys up there trying to play as Tony alluded to. So I wouldn't weigh too much into, you know, what he said. And as, as Tony said, I mean, they have no leg to stand on. You can't get upset about that. The facts are what the facts are. And then by the way, I mind you, these comments are coming after losing two games to the worst team in baseball, a walk off and then you can imagine still the whites. You can imagine how that, that's what I'm saying that, that's how, so you can imagine after the game having these conversations, what the kind of stuff that's going through his mind at this point, and he's got like 10 minutes, 15 minutes at the end of that game that go out there and clear his thoughts and, you know, we know Ron Washington doesn't hold back and, and says, you know, me, what you say, say what you mean. I, you know, I liked that a little bit more than, than sometimes the managers just try to, you know, you know, beat around the bush, but again, I, I think it's just, he's speaking facts. Hey, you know what? That's why they got to say it. You don't like it, play better. You don't have to worry about it. But my feelings are her brain. Ding. Yeah. No, yeah, no, I get it. I get your feelings might be hurt, but this focus on listening, if I, if I'm one of those players and I am my feeling, but I'm not even winning. Okay. What, what do I need to do to get better so that he ain't talking about you? Look at the score, because if you're feeling something right, right, if you, if you're feeling some type of way about it, it's likely that there's a piece of you that knows that he talking about me. I love Ron Washington. So we'll go forward with that. Like a minute. Number two. Now just talking about the white socks, they left San Diego tying the Mets for the most number of losses in a season 120. Was it the 62 Mets? I think it was a 1960, yes, 62, 60 something. Okay. They, they were the expansion team. Okay. So one more loss in the white socks are making history all on their own. And as we just kind of mentioned the last two nights though, they are trying to history Tuesday night, the white socks were down to nothing heading into the bottom of the eighth. They scored three runs to win that game. Last night they went to extras and had a walk off win over the angels. And today they are playing the angels. And so if they win today, they stave off history again after today though, they have three more left in Detroit. So Brayton, do you think they lose one more game? I think they do because the Detroit Tigers need to win to make the postseason and the only thing standing in their way right now are the Chicago white socks. And I've talked about this a couple of times. You look at the American league standings. You got the twins, the royals and the tigers all battling for playoff spots. And the reality, the only reason why they are is because the twins are 12 and one against the white socks, the royals are 12 and one against the white socks and the tigers are nine in one against the Chicago white socks. If those teams played, if there was any type of division competition, like you usually see, give or take around 500, like most division series last in the regular season, all three of those teams would be out of a playoff spot because most of them would be under 500. So the tigers are going to be there. They see an opportunity to make the postseason. They're going to go after it. If Garrett Crochet is pitching or not, the tigers are going to definitely beat the Chicago white socks at least one time this weekend. There could be nothing worse than a team that's trying to get into the postseason and get swept by the Chicago white socks and lose their way out. Again, that Mets team went 40 and 120 in 1962. Who knows how many more losses they would have had if they played a hundred or no, they didn't play a hundred and sixty two games, one of them they had two more games to deal with. Tell me, do you think they lose one more game or do they stave off history? I hope they don't. I hope they win. I hope they win out. I think it'd be great. A great story that they got to 120 and then one out to stave off being the worst team ever in history. And it will also show you that these dudes have started to have some type of belief. Think about this. They had lost twenty consecutive series before winning the series that they won before coming to San Diego. Now, they got swept against one of the best teams in baseball, but all of those games were really technically competitive with the exception of the middle game, which I think kind of got away. Padres had a couple of runs there late, but they competed and I appreciate it. Remember they had a coaching change, you know, certainly Grady size more and his decision to keep crochet pushes start back to face Detroit because he wants to give him the best game. But I love that. I actually do. And so I'm hoping they pull it off. It's likely they'll lose at least one game, but I think it would be super cool to see him. I see that team pull off just avoiding it, at least showing that they are going to compete to the end. All right. Number one. Now, a civil lawsuit has been filed in Florida that claims 18 year old Max Mattis is the rightful owner of the Shohei Otani 50/50 home run ball that is set to be auctioned off beginning tomorrow. I guess golden auction house announced the ball was going to be available with an opening bid of $500,000. And then attorneys for Mattis filed the lawsuit against the New Jersey based auction house and Chris Bielanski, the man who came away with the ball and against his friend Kelvin Ramirez. So the lawsuit claims that Mattis was able to quote firmly grab the ball in his left hand successfully obtaining possession of the 50/50 ball and quote. But Bielanski put his arm in between his legs and wrangled the ball out of Max's left hand, adding that it was forcefully taken away from him. So he is really trying to claim this ball, this 18 year old kid. Now, my question is for you, Tony, you're up first here. When does possession of the ball take place? See the NFL rules for that? I know. Well, no one still knows when possession takes place. Oh man. When does, when does possession take place? Is it the first person to grab it and have their hands fully around it? Did he complete the catch? What did he do? Brian had to say. I would, I would say yes once you get your form grip on it, like and if somebody's got to put their arm between their, your arm between their legs in order to get it out of my legs. Dude, what are you doing? Kind of. I mean, it's, first of all, with that kind of money online, that dude's whole midsection region would have been taken out as if we were being like, you try to lock my hand in there. We go, are we going to play dirty then? That's fine. Uh, yeah, no, I think, uh, I think, you know, if he's telling the truth, who knows, like he may not be telling the truth about this at all. But if, if he's telling the truth, yeah, he should get the ball. Brad, we'll see the video evidence, right? I mean, you can't walk, you can't walk five steps in this country without being on camera. I mean, they have to have that on video somewhere with the amount of cameras that they have. No, they do. It's kind of like the ones I've seen aren't the clearest in the world, but maybe I have to check a look at it then. I, you know, if what he claims to be is true, then I think he's got a rightful case, but at the same time, as Tony said, man, that's a, that's a very valuable ball right there. So you got to, you got to fight your way out of that guys got your arm between his legs. I mean, there's a quick way out of that with most males that's going to drop his ass every single time. So I don't know why the kid didn't do that. I mean, if it was really worth it to him, he would have been throwing some haymakers in there. As Tony said, we're going to lay in the muck, man, it's going to be dirty down there. So, you know, if you wanted to keep the ball, dude, you should have fought a little bit more to keep the ball and not get lures involved. This entire story is major eyewash. I'm going to have to see the video surveillance, but you know what, man, if it was important to you, you would have fought, you would have, you would have won the fight. I mean, I got a money. Shoot. Yeah, I know. I know it's a lot of money. The video for many different angles and to me, there's no clear way to tell if this kid had the ball. However, it was a melee. There were people diving over tables. There were people boxing people out. There were people doing things that they probably would never do in a normal life in normal daily. What's happening in Miami, right? Yeah. Yes. If I threw a case of $500,000. I think I did see it, man. There definitely was someone underneath a chair and the chair was being used to block, try to dislodge him. But the guy who had the chair on them ended up with the ball. So I didn't see him use his legs to dislodge him. This is not like a football game. Maybe it was. This is like a fumble recovery in the National Football League. Right. You had those back. No piles are dirty. They're melee. They're like that in high school and they were dirty. It's probably even worse at the NFL level and probably even worse at the ball. It was worth $500,000. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Hey, kid, work on your, your hand strength next time and won't be taken away from you. Don't join an MMA gym. All right. That's it for the big five. And that's it for the show, everybody. We have the round table coming up next, the round table replay from this morning. Ben in Woods, Paul, and Annie and Elston were on the round table. So that's coming up next. Stick around 97 through the fan. 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