We discuss the continued cucking of our glorious leader, as well as the rewilding of beavers and Phillip Schofield.
Boys Gone Wild
Boys Gone Wild | Episode 240: RETURN THE SAUSAGES NOW!
(upbeat music) - I, I am a man. - I know one thing, and it's that I am a man. - Yo. - Yo. - All together. ♪ Never shall we fall ♪ ♪ Yo. ♪ ♪ Dads and beggars ♪ ♪ Yeah, bird how we roll ♪ - I imagine you, later night, watch scary TikToks. - Is it what you often do? - Yep. - I actually watched too many scary TikToks. - What, do you like, boogling yourself? - The boogling euglies. To the extent where I've had to, I quickly skip through, because some of the most terrified I've ever been in my life is TikToks. - Really? - Oh, really? - Yes. - You shouldn't be getting scared of TikToks. - No, because they do really terrifying special effects and faces. - Do you not think it, is it embarrassing to be scared? - Yes. - While on your phone? - Correct. - At loan? - At loan at night? - I think news notifications, it's fair enough to be scared. (gasps) Bomb incoming. - Scared, yeah. - What? - But I do think getting scared at videos on your phone is embarrassing. - Look, I'm not saying it. - The bigger the screen, the more acceptable it is to be scared. - So sometimes I think horror can be weighed down in narrative. - Sure. - So there's often, the biggest eugly boogles you can have is like they do these weird filters and it's like just as simple as some will be at home and then they're kind of here, maybe then they'll hear something behind them and then it will be at the top of the stairs of a basement just in a black, just a light comes on and it's a scary figure and that's like as simple as it could be. - Yeah. - Is it an account that does specific boutique horror TikToks? - Yeah. - Bespoke. - Bespoke. - Yeah, it's not like-- - Was boutique mean? - Boutique. - I've actually had this problem before. - I didn't understand, you've come to the wrong man, what's the other thing that's like boutique? - Bespoke. - Yeah, I had a big, I had a pub on an eye out once, I tapped my friend on the shoulder and whispered, "What does Bespoke mean?" - Well Bespoke is what I meant to say when I said boutique. - Bespoke, I think is-- - Bespoke. - Bespoke is made of water. - Made of water. - No, it's not Bespoke because Bespoke would be made of water. - So I'd be like-- - This sign was Bespoke. - Yeah, made of water. - And there's podcasts as boutique? - Yes, we don't, unless we do a Q&A then it's Bespoke. - I follow like an animator who does like horror, like animations with like big creatures, but that's not even boogly, that's more just like, all like a scary vibe. - I don't think you're probably on horror talk then, 'cause there's somewhere I've gone like, fuck, 'cause I've then been scared to go to the toilet in the night. (laughing) I'm a bit of a pussy. (laughing) And like, I don't, I like horror. - It's embarrassing to be scared to go to the toilet. - Yeah it is. - 'Cause that means you also need a piss. - Yeah. - And you're scared. - Yeah, what's he gonna do, weigh himself? - Did you not go to the toilet 'cause you were just-- - I did go to the toilet, but it's like, I don't want to. You know when you don't want to leave your room, out of fear of the ugoli boogles. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, well I get on horror talk, 'cause as I'm actually, as I say, I think just a quick in and out, is actually some of the scariest things you can have. - But so not a giant ship. - No. - And it's the song. - No, not the anchors. I don't go, I'm not leaving my room. I'm not leaving my room. - No, there's-- - What's that misophone, not misophone, yeah? - Is that misophone, it's the fear of big things. - I'll most likely be wrong, but I'm pretty sure misophone is a noise allowed to have. Which is what I have. - But all those yo-hos, right? - Yo-ho. - They're all talking about the kind of innate fear of a big thing. - Yeah, it's not misophone, yeah. - And whatever that is, I think it's attention-seeking. The people who say they're the fear of big things. - Yeah. - Do you know those people? I think shut the fuck up, seriously, it pisses me off these people. - Now I, look, I get it. And I think this goes into my home. - Oh, you had a megalophobic-- - It's my shark thing. - The shard? - The shard, no, that was an accident. I don't have a phobia of the shard. - No, but-- - I was surprised by the shard. I'll do it quickly, when I wasn't living in London. I was, I came up to London. - Do a small town boy. - As a small town boy. Hasex, Hasex born and bred, dragged someone to drag me up to the big sea, 'cause I'm awful reason. And I got-- - You're dreams in your pockets. - Yeah, and a water bottle in my bag. And I then came out of London Bridge station. And, oh, I think it was the underground. - Yeah. - But there's one, there's right at the bottom of the shard. And I just got, I never, I didn't have any bearings in London whatsoever. Didn't know, I hadn't got a clue where the shard was, for God, it existed, to be honest. And they got out, got on with my rucksack on. And just, and it was almost like I saw this building, and I just kept looking up, and it kept going up, and kept going up, and then he fainted. I was like, whoa. - That's megalophobia. - That was a megalophobia reaction. - That's like a jump scare. - What, the shard? - The shard jump scare me. 'Cause I had no idea it was gonna be there. - Yeah. - But no, the megalophobia, look, that's kind of what started my obsession with sharks, in a way, it was like these big fish. I love a big fish, 'cause I'm like, what the, you know, what's going on there? - Sure. - I'm not, you know, I'm scared of sharks. - I understand the-- - But I'm fascinated by them. - Yeah, I understand the erotic angle of megalophobia. I understand like the kind of like, oh, this is kind of big, it's scary. - You know, like playing around in it, but making it part of your-- (laughing) - Ah, too. (laughing) ♪ Never shall we bow ♪ - That's a sound that has stayed on TikTok longer than I thought it would, actually. - Yeah. - It's kind of embedded itself into the cannon. - Big anchors and big waves are scary. When you see a little shit, big wave. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I don't think you're on, get on horror talk, open horror talk. - Well, I get like the real stories horror talk. - Yeah. - Which is-- - Yeah. - They're kind of really harrowing because they're real, but it would be like a body cam footage of a police officer goes to man's house, he's just killed his whole family, and you can just see the man being like, do, do, do, do, do, yeah. Just, yeah, just been, yeah, just been sitting at home. - That's more psychological talk. Horror, that's more like, wow, that's more being appalled by something or like-- - I guess so. - Do you know what I mean? - I would like to, if we had more time-- - Yeah. - I think us making a sub account has just made horror TikToks. It says, "See a horror." - Yeah, no, I agree. - It's kind of, it is kind of very similar to the comedy. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, surprise. - Yeah. - But I don't-- - Surprise. - Surprise, it's us. - Surprise. - Surprise. - Scared, it will laugh or be scared. - I got my special coming out in two days, by the way, so can you watch that? That's gonna be on this YouTube before I forget. And if you're sick of Andrew, he's not in it once. - I'm not in it, I am in the audience. So if you're really sick of me, then don't watch it. You might hear a laugh. - Second show, you're pretty steaming by that point. - Yeah. - Yeah, I was there. I was there for a while. - You were there, long as long time. - I was there, there was a big gap between specials. I was just like, well, what else am I gonna do? I'm gonna get fucking pissed. - I'll stay, I'll stay, I'll support you. - What's he doing again? What's that bit? What? It's me, Chuck, mate. - It'd be great to be heckled by a comedy partner sincerely. What are the subjects of TikTok? I might as well talk about Gary Wollson briefly. - One of my favorite finds in TikTok in general is to find people that are doing incredibly sincere content or something like that. - Yeah. - And then, them have no followers. Do you know what I mean? - Sure. - So it's like, they're really just putting it out into the abyss. - Yeah. - But with Gary. - There's an awfulness to the lack of audience. - Yeah, it's like performance eye in some ways. Well, now he's blowing up and I'll just realise this. But like, go on the eye contact one. So he's that, this is kind of horror talk-esque. (dramatic music) (dramatic music) (coughing) (laughing) - So basically, now, so I say go on that one 'cause that's essentially what he does. He goes from, he does this like evil smirk. - Sure. - But he's like, never more if I felt like the desire to call the police on someone because he's actually, look at him. This is my favourite one. Sorry, can you go to the start of this? - Someday, some will break you so badly that you become. - And what's the, what's the? (dramatic music) (laughing) - And it's him on the phone. - So that's, that's a knowing, right? - No, he's like the first evil influencer. - Yeah, so he's going for that evil gap of the market. - Exactly, just like I might kill you. And I'm like, if you turn your back, don't worry, I'll get you. - I wouldn't mind scary coming back in. And again, he's not really scary, he's more evil, but scary. - Sure. Do you know what I mean? Cause I, I once again, it's the emo kind of death metal satanic thing that's gone out of fashion. I do think, going to a space where it's all about being bad and evil. - Well, yeah, that does feel quite refreshing. - Yeah, well, Walton's your man, really. Again, I keep coming back to like, near the meal deal, guys. - Yes, that's one of my guys who dropped off a bit. - Yeah. - So what was his thing? He reviewed meal deals? - Yeah, he's in that category of people that become famous on tip-top for eating and then reviewing meals, but only giving it on a scale essentially between eight and nine. They never really go below anything, anything below an eight or anything above an nine, which I then think maybe it's pointless reviewing this stuff. - That genre of person seems remarkably bad at dealing with any false form of fame. It really, every single one of the rails immediately. - But every single one of them goes off the social media for a while, and they have a, I'm just really sorry, I'm struggling with mental health. It's like, well, maybe stop posting videos to tip-top. - I mean, Bevo, the rise and fall of Bevo. - Well, Bevo went big, big time. I kind of understand Bevo having a, I think if I was Bevo, I'd probably have a bit of a meltdown. - Yeah, yeah. - But there's nothing to fall back on because if you're known for eating loudly and you end up on... - Yeah, it's hard to pivot. - Yeah. It was like, everyone loves you for going. - You could, I could drink loudly, I guess. That's kind of like... - But if you know, you're on a talk show and it was like, we're here with Bevo. He's not really known for his thoughts. - No. - And how long can you go? - Yeah. - Four. - I mean, I love the content at first. I really did. - Yeah, you really connected with it. - I really connected with Bevo. - Even though, 'cause it was weird, 'cause I miss a phone it, I think. - Yeah. - Loud, eating makes you want to kill everything. - Well, often people with immense social anxiety love horror films. - What are you saying? - I'm just saying that maybe it's because of your hatred of it, that it was sort of like a... - Yeah. - Was it something therapy exposure therapy? - It was exposure therapy. - It was exposure therapy. - Well, yeah, 'cause for some reason, I found that I couldn't look or listen away. - Yeah. - So maybe that makes sense. - Exactly. - Do you still have arachnophobia? Is that still going strong? - Yeah, it's not. - Or to do my love for attention. Discuss. (all laughing) - Is this some sort of torture? Look, we all had to have something interesting about us at school. Otherwise, we couldn't get by whatsoever. And I decided, look, yeah, it's still there. - Yeah? - I think if you have dreams about spiders. - Are you getting ill to get rid of spiders for you? - Nah. - Nah. - I can, look, I'm not like the worst rat on it. - So talk to me into the overrides. - Gotcha. - So that's still going stronger than the arachnophobia? - 100%. - Good. - It always would. (all laughing) Yeah, it always would. - Well, the thing is, look, I'm not the worst arachnophobia called the best, depending on your metrics, but I would never, never picking a fuckers up in my life, of course. I'm not a psychopath. - Yeah. - Like, dad, that was when I first knew what a man was, when I said, "Dad, spider in my room." - Bang. - And just, he just goes like that. So now, whenever I do that with every other creature in my house, the wanders in, not like women. And then, I'll grab them and throw them out with the hat, but I can't do it with spiders. - How are you with daddy long legs? - Yeah, they're like the little person, brother, you know. - I think daddy long legs, there is-- - You can't be scared of something. - There's a romance for daddy long legs. Not romance, actually. There's a charm to the daddy long legs. 'Cause they're like, "Oh, they can't control where they go." And go, "Oh, fuck." - Yeah. - Yeah, they're like the cramer of the insect world. They're just kind of-- - Yeah, it's like Bambi, it feels like they're all ice. - Yeah, well, they feel like they're putting on a show. Like, they're like a clown, they're a clown, really. - And it feels like they don't have insidiousness 'cause they can't control which direction they go. - Yeah. - So it doesn't feel like it. - Yes, there's no plan behind it, it's chaos. There's no like, yeah, there's no plan to attack you. - No, I can put a glass over, slip a piece of paper on them. - Sure. - And then they're off. - We need to talk about the reaction of the audience to the different sides. - Oh, we do, we do. - Yeah, 'cause there was a big backlash that I wasn't ready for when I think accidentally we switched sides just 'cause we'd gotten to a new room and it wasn't our normal places. - I didn't do it accidentally, we've discussed this at the pub. I did it fully purposefully. - What, just to-- - Well, because I-- - Deflect your muscles a little bit. - Yeah, they're only good on that side. - I said, we had a conversation when we first started this podcast that like, 'cause you wanted to be on that side. - Yeah. - And I went, I wanna be on that side. - Yeah. - And then you won the argument. - Well, it was more, it just felt, I think because it was my room. - You wanted to be closer to the window. - It just felt like I was, you were still entering my room and it just felt weird you being against the wall here. - Yeah. - Like the guests should be nearer the door of the room, right? - Yeah, no, I understand. - I think it's meant to-- - So I think it was just like a, there's a feng shui element to it. - Yeah. - But this is a shared space, so it kind of-- - So there's no-- - Maybe anyone could sit anywhere. Is Charlie okay sitting there? - Charlie's all right sitting there. - Okay, so but then when we get people in and that's not their space, they have to be closer to the door? - Yeah, but to be honest, if there was a guest-- - Yeah. - And it was just you on here, I wouldn't want the guests sitting here. - If there wasn't a guest-- - 'Cause you're welcoming the guests into the room. - Yeah, I guess. - So if it was you hosting it with a guest, then you should be sitting here, it's like the way, 'cause maybe in Arabia it's different 'cause you read from left to right, the right to left, but here the human eye scans from right to left, so it's the way of just reading, you know? - Is that on screen? - On screen. - Well, you've naturally-- - Okay. - So you've gone for two different arguments there. - It's really an argument too. - That's too fantastic, are you? - It's too fast as my argument 'cause I have two different-- - I suppose so. - Yeah. - It's double. - Yeah, 'cause I was about to say, well, who cares about what the room's like, 'cause what it is on screen? Because then you said, so I did it on purpose last week, because I, well, it's kind of changed now. - You took advantage of me. - I took it, well, I did all the time. You'll forgetfulness, you'll lack of knowing what's going on, I get away with a lot of things. No, but I came in because I sat on that chair, and I knew you'd say nothing about it 'cause you weren't gonna, it's not going through that thick old gnawing in, but I thought previously that was my better side on that chair. And then we discussed this at the pub, and you said, well, this chair is your better side. - Well, I don't know if it is my better side that I think I naturally think it isn't, but I did get a couple of comments saying I looked good, and it was the first time I'd seen that side of my face. I don't know if it's a novelty. I don't know if, you know, do we see-- - Oh, he looked nice in that angle. - Yeah, well, he's just never seen it before. - Well, we're not gonna see, because we've been bullied into taking about the original-- - As I said, fundamentally, this is about schedule and routine for our autistic fan base, you know? - It is, really. We can say anything for a long time. - This is just as long as we release 9 a.m. on a Friday, they don't have any change, freaks them out. It was already a big enough change for me with the studio. I brought up the new shed, and I happened to have laughed at the state of the shed, which I think is kind of-- - That's very ridiculous. - Yeah. - We've just moved in. - And if anything, it's more honorable that we are turning a shed into a podcast studio. You know, anyone can, you know, waltz into a podcast studio and say, we'll use that, please. - Yeah, most podcast would take a three month break. - Yeah. - They could build the studio. - Would they? - No. - Yeah. - They wouldn't. - Yeah, that's fair, but not us. - I lied for views. - Ah, clip it. (laughing) - Grip, give me a gripe. - When people don't cross the road when they have the opportunity, I think it's the death of our society. - Well, this would be in maybe a blanket thing of walking politics, which is kind of your ultimate-- - Well, this most of all's were great. - Most of my rights. - So this is just a specific-- - I've got the big walking politics going to come when I'm ready to do it. - I'm not. - I mean, when the climate is significantly different. (laughing) But no, this one actually occurred. I jotted it down on my little, little like pad phone thing. - Yeah. - And when it was on the way back from the podcast. And it's, okay, it doesn't count if you're disabled, if you're elderly, or if you've got any impairments that are gonna stop you walking across in the road of the breast nature. That is, you're done, you're fine. I know it's illegal. Jaywalking, that's the thing in America, isn't it? But it's when there's, you know, there's a red light, there's a red man, and there is fucking no cars whatsoever. - Yeah. - And you're an able-bodied person, and you are just passively waiting for that light to turn green, when you could just cross the road and get to where you're going quicker. Seize life, seize the moment. Stop waiting for someone else to tell you what to do. You don't need that green man to cross the road. You can see for it yourself. I'm not talking about if there's a hidden corner, it's a straight road, there's no issues of cars. There's no issues of cars, you know you're gonna do it. But we're chickens, and we can't, but we can't cross the road. We're chickens who can't cross the road. How did the chicken cross the road? He didn't, because he was an English person who waited for the light to turn green. - That's an interesting one, 'cause I completely agree. I also think, you know, we have differences, but we have similarities. I think we're both similar with how we view traffic lights. - Yep. - It's about being decisive. - But we've got different color hair. - Yeah, there's lots of other stuff, I'm not saying we're the same person. - It's different, it's, you know, that's true. - I could agree you more on that. - You're wearing green. - Yeah, yeah. - Black, it's not all the same. - The differences are endless, right? - Yeah, but on this, I couldn't agree more. I do think it's about being decisive. Some people would say, entitled, I would say-- - It's titled? - I'd say, yeah, I would say it's about self-confidence, and I do think it reflects your view in life, and I do think the decision-makers and the people who run things are people who walk on a red light. It's about minor rule breakage that you can-- - I'm waiting for a button. - You can use your cognitive ability, right, to overcome the rules. Bend the rules without being deeply unethical. - You peed in carrots. - That's what I do agree. I guess my thing is I don't know if I view it as a gripe. I wouldn't view this as a gripe. - Yeah, I know, but it annoys me. - I think good. I'm glad that this world's full of sheep, 'cause it means wolves like us. (laughing) I don't, you know-- - I'm more empathetic to the sheep. - Sure, wait, are you more like free yourselves? - I'm like a wolf. I'm a bit like Jacob, it's why I like. - Yeah. - I feel sympathy for the vampires. - Yeah. - Well, you know, not initially, obviously. - Yeah, and your career peaked in 2008. - Exactly. (laughing) And I've never quite beat this one. (laughing) I'm just a shocking fall off since then. I kind of one hit wonder per an atom. (laughing) So, yeah, I'm not talking about Taylor Nautner. I'm talking about Jacob. - Sure. - Because he, you know, would have more, he hated the vampires at first. - Okay. - But then obviously he ended up fathering. - No, you know, the baby imprinted on him. I've watched why I like recently, but it's starting to wear away now. But he, so I'm Jacob, the, I'm Jacob. - The wolf. - The wolf, the werewolf. And the people who aren't crossing the road of the vampires, we don't get on. We're people who don't get on. - Okay, fine, yeah. - But I'm going, actually, I'm in love with one of, it's getting confusing now. Actually, I now, because of some of this experience, I'm the wolf who goes, actually, I'm sad for the people that aren't crossing the road and I want them to have a better life. And that then goes into annoyance. It annoys me because I'm going, hold on, look, we live in a society here. It's not, you're going around going, me, me, me, how do I get ahead? How do I cross this road and why is it gonna benefit me? I'm saying, well, benefits me, what benefits the society? - I think it's the big society. - It's big sock. We're big sock talking. - Yeah, I think there's, I guess there's a slightly libertarian aspect to my beliefs where it's more like, keep your nose up on other people's business. - Yep, doing it to others as they'll do one to you. Of course. - The list is endless. - The list is endless. And it will end there for the purposes of this podcast because we can't think of any more. But no, it annoys me. I go, why can't you just take a step into that bloody road? - Yeah. - And there is, it's our most metaphorical gripe because we're already, you know, we're already talking very eloquently about philosophy. (laughing) We brought chicken crossing the roads into it. - There are, there are beats to this story. - Yeah. - And I feel bad for the people who don't, to the point of annoyance. - Yeah. - Just cross that road. - It's kind of weirdly, Andrew Tati, this sort of view. I can't, it's kind of like, the average man is a fucking pussy who doesn't know how to grab life by the balls. There's winners and there's losers. - But you know, I think the non road crosses are actually in the minority here. - And here, I'll do counter argument. I feel my, me crossing the road at a red light, if everyone was like me, potentially would get in the way of me being able to do it. - Traffic. - 'Cause it'd be a bit more of a problem. - Well, also part of this is that crossing the road is actually one of the best ways to tell culture. So the French, for instance, they cross the road. They don't wait for them. The cars wait for them. In Paris, you walk across the road. You don't, the cars stop for you. - Yeah, they've got a strong welfare state. It's about the people, you know. - Yeah, it's about like, it's the hams and the have not. So it's like, you've got a car, I've got my feet. Who's gonna go past me? - The feet. - The feet. And they're also obnoxious. - Yeah. - And they're holding baguettes. - They're holding baguettes, berets, stripey tops. - No, it's like, that's my experience. Zoom me if I'm wrong, but I'm probably kidding. But in France, you have that. And then, I'm trying to, you know what. - America, the Jay walking is a real, you get real punishment. You get real punishment. - You get real punishment. - You get real punishment. - But that is because of the size of the roads. - Yeah, they're big fat roads. Big large roads. - Because the car is more important than the pedestrian in America. - Yes. - You can go in Asia and it's just chaos. I'm not. - Wow. - You know, I don't know what that means. Maybe take that back. - It's also just like how wide a net you've cast. - Yeah. - Just a. - To be fair, I've only ever had to be nominated. That's a survivor. But, so I think it's said something about the people. - Russia has seemingly the biggest roads I've ever encountered, but what they've done is they've built lots of subways underneath the roads. They seem to have actually overcome that a lot of those problems quite well. - And what does that say about them? - Well, I guess it says it's a big fucking place. - Yeah. - Not the most profound. (laughing) - One of my favorite things. One of my favorite things. (laughing) One of my favorite things on the internet is, or particular. - Pornography. - Pornography. (laughing) - The words right out right there. - It's something you've got to check out. - I mean, what a segue. If we had pornography on the top here. - I think I'm still checking out. - I absolutely love these. - Guys, I was on Google yesterday. (laughing) - I just found, have you heard? - Pornography. (laughing) - No, one of my favorite things in, it's mostly in nature documentaries, but sometimes you see it on TikTok as well, is when people or countries make bridges for animals to cross the roads. - Yes, yeah. - That's up there with feel-good talk for me. - And do you feel good? - Yep, give that a save. - Yeah, that's great. - Yeah, I feel good with it. - It makes you feel like maybe we'll be alright, doesn't it? Maybe technology can save us. - Yeah. - And we haven't lost our wonder. - Yeah. - And we care about things that aren't us. - Yeah. - I know that's hard to get across. - We talk a lot, but I don't want to get back to real rewilding, but that gets my dick hard. (laughing) - Is that why- - Beavers are back in town. - Yeah, the beavers are back. - Beavers are back. - Can't walk down the road without kicking one of them. - Well, there's only two at the moment, but it's a start. - They're all playing live on my road. No, it's nicer, they're back. Well, I've actually, everyone loves- Wait, beavers. - Yeah. - I've been thinking about- - Or Bevo. - Bevo's back. Does that get your dick on? You know what? I've been thinking of badges this whole time. Beavers are back. - Yeah. - The beaver, can I see a beaver? Do we ever have beavers? - I think there's some really smart people working in the real world, and they're taking seemingly ambitious leaps with, it's all these ideas of like, why can't we have nice things? And it's always like, "Well, the council, you're back." And you know what I mean? And you feel like that in life. Well, it'll be great if we could do that. - No, it's impossible to go anywhere, anywhere, yeah. - But again, it seems like these people are not being held back by that. Let's fucking get some bison. It's nice. - So we used to have beavers. - That's, again, that's so important. We've had this conversation. So I agree with you up to the point where you say, let's get some fucking bison. But I agree that they're not clearly being held by the same regulations as such, you know. I don't know, fire safety regulations. - Yeah, they just seem to have opened their third eye a little bit. - Be the people. - No, the rewilding crew. - The rewilding crew. - Yeah, I like what's coming out of that sector at the minute. - Yeah. - I'm big into it. - My second gripe. - Go on. - Is that I was in, it was another pub altercation. (laughing) - I mean, I shouldn't say go. It's what keeps this podcast going. - It is, yeah, it's a credit card. I got lucky for them. I got lucky for them, really. It's like, just said, getting an altercation, I just begrudging it out of my phone and it's right down and it's a gripe, I suppose. (laughing) Just for this to do another week. New studio. Keep it tripping along the same old shit. - Go on. - So wait, hold on, just quickly. 'Cause now we have a bit of a council here. So we, it's like, it's a knockoff of room 101, isn't it, really? - A second gripe, though. - I was in the toilet, in the cubicle. - Go for it. - No, I wasn't, actually. I was in the queue to the cubicle. There was a guy. - Cool. Sorry. (laughing) - Yeah, no, I needed to, actually. And you weren't there, actually. 'Cause usually you sent me off to the toilet. No one was there to send me off of that, so I felt. It was a bad start to the toilet experience already. 'Cause you'd left earlier. And that was only Matt there and he wasn't gonna put off, kid. (laughing) But no, I'd been on, the RDS had flared up 'cause it was after we shot the next estate agent sketch. And I'd only eaten on breakfast early and they did a lot of exercise. And then just piled some beers on and that isn't doing too well with the old stomach fella. So I went down to this toilet. Fairly trendy place. Clientele, a bit too trendy. - Point us in the ceiling, that's all I know. (laughing) - That's practical. - I know it looks good. But I just can't get my bath on it. I've tried, and tried and tried, but I just can't get my bath on it. - Well, there's a ladder and a trampoline on that wall. So you should be able to... - So you gotta jump and, jump and move, jump and move. Yeah, I know, I was like, I know, but it's not... - You live in East London, what do you expect? - Yeah, what do you expect? (laughing) - No, the toilets were on the floor. But I was waiting in the queue. There was someone in there for ages, me patiently, diligently waiting. I wasn't diligent in the toilets. That wasn't like an attendant. - Yeah. - But then eventually, you guy comes out, I slip in. And then there was a guy standing behind in the queue. I was in there for a minute, bangs on the door. How long are you gonna be, mate? And I went, I've just got in. And he went, yeah, but how many minutes? And I went, it's none of your business. And then... - Did you say that? - I said it. - Nice. - I'd had a few beers at that point. - I'm proud of you. - And I was really annoyed 'cause I needed a minute. - Yeah. - I did the business. - Is it one cubicle? - No, there were two different toilets. So you could have gone to another toilet. But, you know, there was no inclination that I was gonna be long. Well, maybe my face of just... (laughing) That would be fair. - Come on, come on, come on! - Come on, come on, come on! - You'd think quick, maybe. - Yeah, I guess so. - If I'm there with a newspaper on the way up, then that's a fair question. - Or a thousand piece jigsaw. - Yeah. (laughing) Well, I went in, immediately that happened. I went, it's none of your business. And then, in one of my petty amoos in life, I finished really surprisingly quickly, actually. I will love or spay the details. I had sat on TikTok for five minutes on my phone. - What, nice. - You could piss him off. - I ground him out. He was there waiting. Didn't say a word. Washed my hands in silence. - Yeah, this growth has been passed through. It's like, it's whizzing through Parliament. - Yes. - It's going through both houses. The Queen signed off. - The Queen's already art, yeah. This is emergency. Miss needs to get through. - The Queen's dead, right, sir. - She is. - It's the King. - Yeah. - Well, unless... - She's not. - Maybe. - That is a take I haven't heard. And I'm on conspiracy. - The rewilding guys are rewilding the Queen. (laughing) - Okay, are they introducing a disruption? - Yeah. - Yeah. - You know, I'm not the most confident toilet guy. I do think it's already quite embarrassing chasing the public, and I think there needs to be more decorum and respect. - Yeah, so mine's quite specific. I don't think that's ever happened to me. - So you've just been in for a minute, and he wasn't doing it on the other door. - Well, no, 'cause I was in front of the queue. So if he did that, he would've been overstepping. - So he saw that you don't even just got in there. - Yeah, he was there, the guy. - Fuck. - Yeah. - I'd be even if he'd... - Right, the only... - It's funny, he's sort of treating it like it's like a machine in the gym. - Yeah. - Yeah. - How long has he searched that, mate? (laughing) - But he's... No, it's fair enough if you do it after, if you yourself have been waiting there, five minutes, just it, but it was one, it was a bang. And it was too much anyway. - Sure. - It wasn't a... - Yeah. - Sorry, mate. Do you know how long you can get him? That, fine. - If he came to you vulnerable. - Yeah, he did it. - I suppose to aggressive. Then I think you'd have more sympathy. - A thousand percent. If he went... - Oh, mate. How long are you gonna be in there? - Then you have a bit more. - Absolutely. - And, mate, don't you worry, lad. - Don't you worry, lad. - Don't you worry, lad. - I'm gonna be as quick as I can. (laughing) I'm gonna be really quick for you. Don't you worry. You just hold on there, buddy. (laughing) - Look at this. The generating. The generating. - New street, yeah. - We never normally talk about this sort of stuff. - No. - Absolute disgrace. - No, a hundred percent. If it was met with an isotone, absolutely. And if it's like, I'm really sorry, mate. I'm absolutely busting. How long are you gonna be? I'd hurry the fuck up. I'd absolutely hurry up. I'd probably leave too early at that point. But the other way, I'm not gonna... (laughing) Both gripes through the door into Parliament. Excellent. - Um, speaking of Parliament, Kia Starmer has got into hot water recently. - Oh, very nice. - There we go. Two things have really pissed me off about this whole Starmer. - Here we go. Is this where I choose? - Well, first, Sich, we talk about... - Politics corner. - We talk about sausages first. It was a great news notification. - I call again for the immediate ceasefire in Gaza, the return of the sacrifice. (laughing) - One more, just revolve. - Again, let's go again. - I call again for the immediate ceasefire in Gaza, the return of the sacrifice. (laughing) - So, I guess it's Biden-esque, and with Biden incredibly out the scene, it's funny thinking that Biden's still president, by the way. - Yeah, yeah. - He's just disappeared. He's still the most... He's still technically the most powerful man in the world. We have no idea what he's doing. - Yeah, wandering into me. - It's a great political gap. I'm a big fan of the political gap. It does feel very British. You know, I don't know, I feel like the sausages aspect does give it a quaintness. - The funny thing about it, it implies that he's always thinking about sausages. - It's got a sort of Homer Simpson, you know? Like, a Homer Simpson thing where he's... And I love, and he sees sausages. - I mean, more true. (laughing) - That's very true. But yeah, no, it is a uniquely British slip-up. 'Cause sausages feel like an English thing. - Yeah, they are really... We do sausages very well, I'd say. - Yeah, it's very, you know, pork and apple. - Yeah, yeah. So... (laughing) It does. It gives it like a pro-coolness to Starmer. - Yeah. - But even though he's at this high office, he's still... - He's back, the sausages. (laughing) It's because it's such a sincere moment, obviously, 'cause he's talking about hostages and guards. It's probably the most, like, serious he would have had to be enduring that whole thing. And he just goes, "Sausages, the hostages." - Now, what do we think about the link between sausages and hostages? Is it, does it make sense? Is it gas? - Let's just do it one more time, and then we'll say what. - 'Cause it seems a bit left field. - I call again for immediate ceasefire in Gaza, the return of the sausages. - Right, so... - Sausages. - An immediate ceasefire in Gaza, that with the return of the sausages. It implies... - Hausages, sausages. - Oh, I'm talking about what it would mean if it was... - No, I'm saying, like, how much of a... - Yeah, it's fair. - It's fair. - And sausages, sausages, I would say, on that. - They're next to each other. - If I'm on it. - Similar, similar amount of syllables. Same syllables, I think. Saus, hos, yeah. Ajiz, jiz, okay. - Ajiz, ajiz, yeah. - Yeah, I don't know what I thought. - No, it's absolutely fair, linguistically. I'm not sure I'd make that slip, but we'd be also absolutely would. (laughing) I'd be making that every day. But I don't think I'd be able to say the word hosages, or I could only say sausages. - As you said, the return of the boiled ham. - Yeah, that's like, have you not had lunch yet? (laughing) - Boiled ham. - The return of the sausages. It's the seriousness that makes it, because it's like, and he so clearly says sausages. 'Cause it's one of those slip ups that doesn't sound like, there's not a fumble. He really doesn't realize he's saying sausages until he's finished saying sausages. And by that point, he can only go, the hostages. It's such a, I always think, just, I love to hear, there's only one thought going around in every people's head. Who does, who do that? That was a disaster. (laughing) - I've got a sort of three people's head. - Who done that, do that, sausages. - I've got sausage, brain. There's only one thought, every political gap you see, I'd love to hear their thoughts, because it'd be the same way we think. - What's the thought? - It's just, fuck, fuck, shit. - That's it, it's just, fuck, fuck, no. - Yeah, I have a lot of sympathy for gaffes, but I didn't take it too far, but I just, I relate to it a lot. - I think it's why I think in the book, it's, you know, return of sausages is almost quite sweet. It's not the same as the putin thing. - Yes. - Oh, it's not, yeah. - No, no, no, no. - I feel like you almost get to wait with it. - Yeah, yeah, definitely, isn't it? - Yeah, I like him more because of it. I don't like him less. - The sausages. - Yeah, and his voice. - Yeah. - I don't think anyone-- - I guess if we're trying to think what would a speech where it would be, would make sense to say sausages instead of hostages, I guess in my head, it's like, I guess a local council dispute. - Return the sausages? - It would be, it would be some sort of village, I imagine in Somerset, where a neighbor, as punishment because someone has maybe let his tree overgrow into his garden. - So he's nicked his sausages? - A long band of sausages out the window. - Right. - And he refuses to admit he's doing it. - Yeah. - And the other guy says, I leave my sausages to dry my window still. - Yeah. (laughing) - Like an apple pie. (laughing) And he flies over like that walk, you know, with a cartoon, there's a smell. He smells raw sausages. And he's been stealing the sausages every day and then denying it. And the guy's going crazy, so he's taking it to the lowest court in the land, which would be like a local kind of council. - Who says return the sausages? - That guy, somebody's trying to resolve an incredibly low level domestic dispute. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Maybe he meant sausages, though. Maybe he wasn't a gaff. - Boy, oh. - So what was happening in Gaza with the return of the sausages? - Oh, I see. So do you think he knows something that we don't? Well, it didn't potentially, he, the real gaff was that he let slip. - Exactly. - Classified information. - Classified information from the FBI, from the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The key to the Israel Palestine conflict is-- - I guess what adds an interesting element to the sausage gate? - Sausage gate. - Yeah. - Sausage pie. - Sausage in chips. - Is that, I believe, certainly Jewish people can't, but Jewish and Muslims cannot eat pork. - So there's a charge there. There's something in it. - There's something going on there. - There's something in it. Return the sausages. So what we're saying, maybe-- - 'Cause I guess in some way, I guess in some way a sausage is no man's land. - Well. - If I was trying to, if I was on neither side, you know, let's say I'm a Sikh in there. I'm a Gods and Sikh. - You're waggling sausages at both sides. - No, I'm hiding in a sausage. - Ah, fuck. Neither sides. - But they might both bomb it. The sausage, because they hate them. So I'm not sure I'd hide in the sausage. - You've poked holes in my theory. - In your sausage, like a fork before you put them in the oven. - Yeah. - You actually shouldn't do that, by the way. - Why not? - I don't know. I've read it on a packet. - Cool. (laughs) - No, I've just briefly, Charlie. I don't think people-- - Sorry, this is pretty good, actually. - Sausage theft cases. Luke Brummett. In July 2024, Brummett was fined 40 pounds for stealing over 30 pounds worth of sausage rolls. So it's only really a 10 pound fine. And chicken fillets from the food warehouse in Milford Haven. He had 372 previous convictions, including 218 for theirs. - These are all quite recent. - And to the Stutchbury. - The same month. - In July 2024, Stutchbury admitted to stealing sausages. A hot dog, another food items from co-op, and Audi shops, and that's a bit-- - His haul was 35 pounds, and that's on the first page of Google. I'd be furious. - Return of the sausages. - Mate Stutchbury gives them back to the local Audi and Leo Minster. Man arrested for stealing sausage rolls, killed himself after police labeled him a pedophile. (laughs) Now-- - This Oscar is two years old, they've warned. - Let's just read that again briefly. Man arrested for stealing sausage rolls killed himself after police labeled him a pedophile. The only way that that headline is should be allowed to be as it is, is if the sausage rolls theft have something to do with him being a pedophile. - Wait, so is it because of genuine human error, they said? 'Cause I don't know, maybe this is bad for me, but the information I'm getting, I do sort of feel-- - This is funny. - Do you assume he's a pedophile? - Yeah, I was like-- - Yeah, because-- - It was like he was one of Britain's worst pedophiles, and somehow stealing a sausage roll that it was down for. This is kind of interesting. A man who was arrested for stealing great sausage rolls killed himself after being mistakenly described by police as a pedophile and in quests as heard. Brian Temple, 34 from Red Car, killed himself on-- - Have you ever heard of Red Car as an asshole? - Never heard of Red Car, it was just laugh. - Killed himself on New Year's Eve in 2017, almost seven months after the alleged theft of a packet of Greg Snacks, T-Sides Corners Court was told. When he was left out of custody, Temple's release papers wrongly stated that he had been suspended of inciting sexual relations with a 13-year-old girl. Temple did not know the error when he gave her the papers to his then-girlfriends, the court heard. When she then began spreading the secrets information, Temple's subject to verbal, oh my God. - So-- - So it's actually legit? - Temple did not know-- - So what had happened? - That's a massive scandal. - I've never heard of Temple. - It was a crazy-- - The case of the sausage rolls. - Oh, that's crazy, because what's happened there is he's clearly got a letter that's just explained his whole thing, and he was like, oh, you want to check, yeah, the whole sausage roll thing we sort of wrote. - And it's gone like-- - And he gave it to his girlfriend, but quite relaxed now. Oh, yeah, there it is. And then the girlfriend was like-- - Imagine. And I feel for Temple here. - I really feel for Temple. - Imagine that that happens to you, and you just give her the papers, and then she freaks out, and you're like, it's only a fucking sausage roll, and then she's calling you a pedophile. She spread it around to friends of family. - And she thinks every time he says sausage roll-- - And you're only defense. - Is that, no, no, no. I was nicked for stealing a sausage roll. No one's believing you. - Yeah. - There's no chance. You'll be like, what do you mean it was a sausage roll? If you're a pedophile, you're lying. It was like, it was a sausage roll. - It's Atcom's razor, isn't it? The simplest answer's always the truth, apart from here, when it's not. - Well, the simplest answer is the truth, is that it was just a sausage roll. - I guess so. - I did just steal a sausage. He's got us again! (laughing) - Don't tell me! (laughing) - Oh my god, you know that's all right. - That's fucking nuts, that, isn't it? - Oh, well, R.I.P. Brian Temple. This, it feels like a Toby Jones, ITV dramas, written all over it. - It's one for us. (laughing) - We need Temple Story Temple. (laughing) - Now, again, all sympathy for Temple, et cetera, but what, why, surely? - Go forth. - Surely, you say, look, this is absolutely mental. Let's go back to the police station, 'cause these papers are incorrect, and say, bring the girlfriend. It's like, just, before you freak out, just give me a chance to clear this up with the police. - Yeah, I'd have a couple more options before I killed myself, I was Brian Temple. - If it was me, if I was Temple, thank god I'm not, because he's really gone through the ring. But if I stole a sausage roll, and then got hit by the police, and then came back, gave my girlfriend the papers, and she said, you're a pedophile. (laughing) I'd go, let's all calm down for one second. This is gonna get out of hand very quickly. Hold on, you, I'm saying that to the girlfriend, too. (laughing) I'm saying, hold on, they've made a mistake on my papers. I want you to know I'm not a pedophile. Let's go back to the police station, and say, remember me, you've just released me for sausage roll theft, you've called me a pedophile. Can we get this cleared up? - But maybe what happened is that she found out, and then freaked out and didn't tell him. - Yeah, this is what I think, clearly, I think it's what happened. 'Cause he didn't know that it was on the sheet. Or, he left it out on the kitchen counter, I imagine. - Yeah, yeah. - He's just like, yeah, yeah, that's all. - And she didn't. - Finally we dealt with that, it was 35 quid's where the sausage rolls, I don't need to bring that up, and then his girlfriend comes out, "What's this?" - But he's getting, it would've been pretty quick that he was starting to get the abuse that led him to kill himself, right? - Yeah, but I think if you're a pedophile, and you say, "I'm not a pedophile." - I know, but-- - That's exactly what a pedo would say. - But no, but you can surely get clarification from the police, as soon as someone goes, as soon as it comes to you, people have been acting weird around me, what the fuck's going on, and then eventually it gets to the physical abuse or whatever. So you're like, "What's going on?" It's like, "You're a pedo, aren't you, mate?" And then-- - No, I'm such a troll. - No, I like rolls. I like bait pastry with meat in them. It sounds like another euphemism. But no, surely you go straight to the police and you say, "Look, you've got something wrong here." I'm sure there's more to the temple story than those-- - A mainstream radio report. - But speaking of, I guess Bacon Bonta's, Nonta's, is there a twin thing there? - Well, it's something with sausage rolls. - Actually, there was one, because I just said, "You dirty pervert," and that was a famous line from Phillips Gofield. - Well, that brings us on to Phillips Gofield. - It's on this morning. - Disgraced. - Disgraced TV host for the Phillips Gofield in a, okay, an interesting career move. He is stranding himself on a desert island for a week for a TV show so that he can tell his side of the story while also having a survival element to the show. - What's the funniest way for Phillips Gofield to come back? - There's one of them. Oh, you mean, I would say-- - Time to wipe out, just a brief run. Just kind of tees his face for a minute, they're not ready to do it. - It falls off immediately and no one forgives him. - Yeah. - Well, I guess, Phillips obviously been at the head of his fucking field for a while. He's a top broadcaster, you know, he's been around for a long time. So it is interesting seeing someone. Yeah, he has a big ego. And I think the fact that his whole identity has been taken away from everything's been taken away from this, his reputations and tatters. It is interesting to see his real like, "No, I'm not gonna take this line down. "I'm gonna come out and attack this." - Well, yeah. - What's interesting is that most disgraced people end up being going to the right and end up at the Republican National Conference. - Yeah, so it is quite refreshing to see-- - It's quite refreshing. - No, I'm gonna come back to exactly where I fucking was. I'm gonna be on terrestrial TV at the time. - Yeah, I guess so. But I mean, I do think that the concert is quite interesting 'cause being canceled is like being on a desert island in some ways. - Yeah, and then like, he's actually gonna say everything. You'd presume. If he doesn't talk about it at all, then put it back in the bin. - I've been cast away on a desert island completely on my own. - All I have is a camera gear. - And five, 14 year old boys. - How does it get on the island? - Grass light is a bit better. (laughing) - It's my chance to tell my side of my story. - If it's in wanking over a child. - But is it enough to absolutely destroy someone? (dramatic music) - In fairness, I haven't been excited for a Channel 5 program for a long time. - It's true, there is a poetry to this 'cause Channel 5 as a channel is in many ways, it's desert island, it's the remote, it's the outskirts and he's having a star on there. You can only have it if they get accused of paedophilia. - Exactly, it's gonna be interesting viewing. - I kind of support, I mean, we do sympathise a lot with paedophiles in this podcast is it's one of our faults. But I'm being honest with you, I'm rooting for him. - Am I rooting for him as a guy? I'm ready to hear him. (laughing) - Yeah. - I think there's bad optics having paedophiles on the islands. - Yeah. - You seriously just been through that? - Yeah, again, it's like, oh, that's something put on Epstein's island. - Yeah. (laughing) - So, this is actually the thing I've been thinking about most this week, actually, is the, I mean, we weren't talking about how badly KISS style has been treated in the media, I think. - We were, that was a private conversation. (laughing) - Yeah. - I mean, it feels like out the gate. - Yeah, 'cause everyone's out to get him. - On, there was a quote from Andrew Neil, that's that. Who's that politics commentator who's melting. But he said that this is one of, maybe the worst start to a government in the last century. - Yeah. - Which is just like, how are we even beginning to appreciate that that can be any kind of truth? It's absolutely nonsense. - It's rubbish. - Liz Tross. - Yeah. - But the fact that he was saying it was the worst, it's just odd. And it does seem, I've... - I saw a sky analysis talking about how like, awful at the beginning of his 10 years ago. - I just don't get it. - I feel like, give him a second, just to do something. - Give him a fucking minute, especially with the state that the country now broke your Britain. But he is... - I mean, so the big controversy would be the Winterfield tax. That seems to be the biggest one. It was like, okay, that seems, I don't know, we need to make some cut back somewhere. - As I was saying to you, it doesn't affect me, so I don't care. - Yeah, we're young, so, what's the problem? - I don't see the problem, it's all the issue. And then, yeah, the other thing about him releasing prisoners from jail early, because there's not enough space in the prisoners as well, that's... Do people not understand how problems occur? They don't occur at the point of which the problem is identified, but rather before that problem. - Yeah, it seems crazy to judge them so early. But the hospitality box scandal, I think, is, it's symptomatic of a lot of problems in British politics, with our obsession with kind of petty things that we don't actually care about, and we pretend we do, to try and undermine power, which I think often ends up having not beneficial consequences. Like, I think, so, what happened was, he got gifted hospitality box at Arsenal. And people lost their shit, 'cause they said corruption, he should pay for it. But my view is, he's the boss, he's our boss. He's the most powerful man in the country. He should be. Why are we obsessed with cucking out our leaders so hard? It's embarrassing. He's technically, power-wise, he's the king now, in many ways. He should be allowed to be in a director's box at Arsenal. They invite him, of course they would. He's the most powerful man in the country. Why are we, like, saying pay for your own box? KSI was invited up to director's box. If you're an influencer, you get a free box. He's the fucking leader of the country. What the fuck are we talking about? Why would you care that he gets a free box? He voted him in. It's the most important job in the country. Can he not flash the cash a little bit? Can he not have a little bit of the sexiness of power? I'm not saying he'd be like Bella Sconey, we're having a bung-a-bung-a party every weekend, but he's not, it's Keir Stone. He's gonna watch the football game. - That's the most animated I've ever seen you being. - It really pissed me off, it's like, who the fuck cares? - So it wasn't just a football game. - Yeah. - In other words, he was accepting clothes? - Accepting. - Yeah, gifts. You're not allowed to accept gifts. I'm not allowed as part of my work to accept a gift above the value of 250 pounds. - You're a nobody! - I am a nobody. (laughing) I am a nobody, but still, there's a reason why. And I, look, I entirely agree with you here. There's a reason why you're not allowed to accept gifts and things because it's, 'cause it means that undue influence can occur. So it depends who is inviting him to the Arsenal bot. So they'll be like, what can you now, can you now kill the Gurkers? (laughing) - Keir. - Keir. - Kill the Gurkers. - Yeah, half time. - Kill. - A quarter as well. - Kill us a favor, get it. - Could you just just kill the Gurkers? - Kill the Gurkers. (laughing) - No, so. - Do you know why I fucking hate the Gurkers? - The Gurkers. (laughing) - Yeah, so there's a reason of it. And like, actually valuable gifts, shouldn't you? Shouldn't accept of like really valuable gifts. But going to see a football game and there was like bits of clothing, why it doesn't actually matter who fucking cares. - Who cares? And it's also, I guess, when there's so much going on geopolitics, there's so much about international relationships, you're going to big summits with other leaders. I think it is embarrassing how much we are committed to undermining the power of our leaders. - Yeah. - He isn't gonna be negotiate with Putin at some point. And I do think it reflects badly when Putin, I'm not saying it should be like Putin, but Putin's got a mega mansion with bears fighting or whatever. You know, he's got a collection of fucking saddles or whatever it is, he has so much. - I don't know. I don't know, we don't get to know, but we know that there's a lot of stuff and that imbues him with a certain confidence. He then meets Keir, who's not allowed to go to watch his football, you know. - Yeah, in a box. - In a box. And it's just embarrassing. - I agree with you that people are making a big deal out of nothing, but I don't think we should be pimping out our people who are making decisions. - I can obviously go too far, but I think there's sometimes, I think, when there's so many, there's like, there's big tech, there's money from big business, there's people who are pimping out all the time. I do think sometimes we like to cut the legs out from real authority. - But you cannot see the argument as to why. 'Cause I'm just now, I'm playing devil's advocate here. But can you not, the reason as to why is 'cause they're not making big tech and making decisions based on business. - Yeah. - Politicians need to make decisions based on the people. So one, the more on like, in business, if you're making, I don't know, part about forming relationships is you're just doing it essentially for money, right? But then if you then, you know, it's like taking clients out to dinner and schmoozing them and getting different dinners. - Big pot of networking. - Yeah, but so like, and then accepting gifts can be bribery and things, but also you want your politicians to be a bit more of a man of the people. So that there's an understanding of what country you're ruling and they're making the right decisions based upon that. - Partly, I also want a bit of Donnie Bostman, for real. - You want a bit of swag swag? - I want a bit, I think it's something, it reflects your country a little bit. And like-- - But you're talking just about-- - The president-- - The president would never have anything like this, obviously. - They always do. The presidents get like shit about it. - No, it would never-- - Excepting gifts and stuff. There's been plenty of scandals about that. - I mean, the president getting a box at a basketball game, no one would give a flying fuck. - No, I don't know. - It's Donnie Bostman. - It's Donnie Bostman. - Let him sit in the comfy sea. Let him have those Fiji waters from the fridge for free. He's Bostman. - To be honest, it's more just a bit of a security issue as well. - Yeah, yeah, that's the practical. - But it wasn't, it was the thing is that he's been invited by someone. That's where Andru influence-- - It's the director, he's been invited by the director. - It's his favorite class. - And he's an Arsenal fan, isn't it? - He's an Arsenal fan. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Which, that's the reason that nullifies it for me. He's like, he's clearly there 'cause he wants to watch the game. - Yeah. - And I just think in general, I don't, even if I don't like the lead of the country, I do want them fucking-- - You wanna like a pimp chain, right? Sort of a little bit. I don't want it to go that far, but I just think other countries have that. It leaves a lot of problems, but I just think it, it does undermine their authority. - I think it's a pretty, in America, you've got the aviators and the jacket. - Yeah. - And there's just a swagger being a leader. - Air Force One, there's all that shit. - Yeah, yeah, but you need it, like you can't have Air Force One in the UK because you just get on the fucking train, you know? - Yeah. - But that's, but again, it's about, there's always the sniff. This is why this is ridiculous 'cause there's not even a sniff of corruption whatsoever. There's no corruption there at all when you compare it to the Tories. - Well, I don't know what kind of clothes this wife was wearing. - They could be gorgeous. They could be stunning. - And they're not paid that much in politics. That's another problem. That's a problem that seemingly is one of those things where it seemed like a weird one that everyone agrees with. - Yeah. - That politics should be paid more. - Yeah. - Oh, everyone thinks it's a really interesting thing to say. - Yeah. - I actually, politics should be paid more. - Oh. - 'Cause then they won't accept, you know, and I think it does even, it does feed into that narrative. - Yeah. - Where I do think some of the starving politicians of having any fun. - Yeah, yeah. - Being able to, they've gone in there for power and it's like, no, you need to be by hand filling in potholes and structures. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I just think we're obsessed with cucking out the leader and I just think it-- - Cucking out. - It's embarrassing for, and also, I think here, I don't see here as someone who's the most indulgent man. I don't think he's like, he's not like a Boris Johnson figure, right? He seems quite-- - Yeah, absolutely. - You know? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And I just think, once again, you know I have this weird empathy for leaders. - Yeah. - I think-- - Leaders and Peter. (laughing) - I think we'd care. He has worked his whole life to get to this job. He's finally got it and I don't think he's asked for a lot and then he's like, he got invited to the director's box and I think he turned to his wife and he was like-- - Oh, we've been invited to the game! - You know, and he's got really excited about it and I think he was sitting in there and he was just thinking, I think for that game, you know, it's been quite stressful beginning to his tenure and I think for that game, he was like, I'm bloody. - I'm just on my body. - I'm the fucking leader. - I'm watching the game. I'm the boss, this is great. This is the kind of stuff that happens at the top. - A lot of your arguments are-- - And now we're playing around. - I did, except any corruption, you know, it has to go and it's just, you know, a lot of your argument is ruined. - A lot of your argument is that surrounded by the concept of the Donnie boss man. - Yeah, I guess I do want him in a fur coat but I'm not trying to sell that to the British public. - No, yes. - I am trying to sell the idea that he's allowed to go, you know, watch a football game and throw his weight around a little bit. - Right, yeah. - The fur coat that comes out later, we build to that. - I do want Bungabunga parties, eventually. - Yeah, but we need to build up to Bungabunga. - Yeah, yeah. - Look, it's as wise my arm once said, you know, mountains can be made out of moles. Thanks very much, guys. - We'll see you next week. Live podcast and special. 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