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Ep.1166 - It was Always on the Trades

Broadcast on:
16 Sep 2024
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In this podcast we cover:

  • How command and control was on the trades.
  • How LPS done wrong is on the trades.
  • How to make it a team effort.

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welcome everybody out to podcast number 1166 in this podcast. I'm going to talk about how it's always been on the trade. Stay with us. This is the elevate construction podcast delivering remarkable content for workers leaders and companies and construction wanting to take their next step. Get ready to step out of your comfort zone with Jason Schroeder as he encourages you to do better. Live a remarkable life and expect more. Let's go. Welcome everyone. I hope you're doing well. Sorry, I have had a cough. I think because of, I think it's post-nasal drainage. I can't remember. Kate was talking to me about, but my cough has been crazy ever since the storm blew in about four weeks ago that I've had allergies. Anyway, so I apologize for my voice. But I'm pretty excited about this topic because this was a realization that I had the other. Oh, anyway, I'm pretty excited about this topic. It's a realization I had the other day and I have been waiting to share with you. But here, let me give you some current events. Next week is Super PM Bootcamp. We have 32 people total. Pretty fantastic. We're in a new facility. I don't know if I have permission to mention it. We're working with a neat partner in Phoenix, Arizona. Really neat building. I am super stoked about it. That's what's happening. Kate and I are probably at this point 60% done with the text during a control book. So we have till the end of September. Please wish us luck. But this is just, I mean, absolutely amazing. I hope people are just going to love it and, you know, be able to go and implement that tomorrow. And just seeing a lot of traction with all of our systems. I'm really proud of Lean Tech. Like I said, we have over 50 people now. Marketing is jamming. Our graphics are doing well. Our integrator visits are doing well. I don't know if any of you saw on LinkedIn, but our integrators have beautiful personal protective equipment with the purple stickers and the vest. It's really neat. Like life is just good. The other thing is we just did a design poll plan for our first Lean Belt project and it went well and we just had a great time. So everything's pointing in the right direction. So let me talk about the podcast at hand. So here's really what I want to talk about. It's always been on the trade. Let me provide you a perspective. So there's this concept taught in Lean circles. Oh my gosh, this is such a good podcast. I hope you love, love, love this. There's a concept in Lean circles where Lean experts or practitioners will say, we're not taking care of our trade partners because of command and control. You have a general contractor creating a schedule, shoving it in this case they're obviously not treated like a trade partner but more like a subcontractor and they're just dictated. They're talked to it. It's a dictatorship. It's command and control. It's the GC trying to control people with very dismal results and the concept there is that trades end up having to just do what they do best. They throw their schedule away and go do the best that they know how to do. So it's on the trade partners. But what I think is interesting is that this is escaped with the Lean community that when you have CPM and you don't actually fix the root cause of the problem and you go to your trade partners and you're like, oh, I don't want it to be on the trade partners anymore. I want to share this load as a team. I want to do it collaboratively. So we're going to go from, hey, it's all on you trades to let's go ahead and collaborate. Let's do it together. And then you say to them, hey, go ahead and give me your look ahead and your weekly work plan from scratch from nothing created, right? And you combine that into a weekly work plan to execute for the next week. It's still on the trades. You've literally just asked them to do your job. You've literally just asked them to go explain what they think they should be doing based on an inaccurate master schedule without any concepts of flow or the general contractor doing their job. So it's still on them. So let's not be fooled that we've helped them in any way, shape, or form when they now have to go spend hours creating look aheads, hours creating weekly work plans after hours of doing pull plans where the weekly work plans aren't even considered, right? And then having to combine them and then now go coordinate trade to trade without the rhythmic oversight of the general contractor. Now, now we've just put more work on them and they're still doing it. Okay, so it was on them when we used to dictate and command and control. And now it's still on their backs when we tell them to go do all of the planning for us and then do all the coordination for us. So we've got this really, really backwards. And if you're like, J money, okay, that's how I run my job. Let me let me not be too negative here. And let me say, hey, all right, I'll give you a pass. But here's where you need to head. If you have a tax plan, you're doing your job. If you have hosted a poll plan, you're doing your job. If the look aheads and weekly work plans are auto filtered from that tax plan, then you're doing your job. Then the trade partners have very little waste of time can make minor adjustments. And everybody is heading in a consistent rhythm. And now you are one team. Now you have collaborated. Now it's all one system. You know, this is it's interesting. Like we need to look at the purpose of things. I was just this is a little bit of a sidebar. But I was writing the like I already told you in the book, tax steering and control. And at the end of the meeting segment, I said, please don't get fooled by anybody who says your your weekly trade meeting has to be 30 minutes or has to be 45 minutes or has to be 90 minutes or whatever. The duration of the meeting is not the success criteria for the meeting. It's did we get or accomplish the purpose of the meeting, right? So that's like another one where we have steered it in the wrong direction. Let me give you one more example, the plus delta. The industry has turned the plus delta into oh, what did you like? What did you not like? I'm not going to ask people that like black licorice and uncooked Brussels sprouts and sauerkraut and anchovies on their pizza. That looks like Tom Sillick's eyebrows, what they like or dislike. I don't care what they like or dislike like I care what did or did not meet the purpose of the meeting. So we always have got to look into what is the purpose of what we're doing? Why are we doing this? The last planner system is to enable the trade partners collaboratively to better execute short interval work and to learn together, okay, in a respectful environment. It is not to just chuck now the general contractor's responsibilities over the wall and say hey, now you do it and just be and just say like good luck, right? That is not the purpose of it. So we have to make sure that everything is heading in the right direction and that we don't veer off track just from a lack of understanding. And I know this is a short podcast, but I did just want to get that concept done with and go on to the next one. So the concept is this, back when we commanded and controlled, it was on the trades. When we're implementing the last planner system wrong, it's on the trades. When you pair last planner and tack together and you do your job as a general contractor, you're doing it as a team. I hope you've enjoyed this podcast. On we go. Please join us next time in elevating the entire construction experience for workers, leaders and companies coast-to-coast. If you're enjoying the show, please feel free to share with your construction colleagues and help us spread the word by rating, subscribing and leaving a review on your preferred podcast listening platform. We really appreciate it. We'll catch you next time on the Elevate Construction Podcast. [Music]