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Harvard Student's Shocking Egg Experiment: Cholesterol Levels Plummet

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26 Sep 2024
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(upbeat music) - Welcome to "Listen To." This is Ted. The news was published on Thursday, September 26th. Joining me today are Eric and Kate. Let's dive right in. Today we're discussing a Harvard Medical Student's experiment of eating 700 eggs in 30 days. What are your initial thoughts on this unusual diet? - Oh man, this experiment is wild. It's like something out of a dare, right? But seriously, it's fascinating stuff. It's totally flipping the script on what we've always been told about eggs and cholesterol. I'm itching to know more about the science behind this egg-stravaganza. - Are you kidding me? This is absolutely bonkers. It's not just unusual, it's downright dangerous. - Whoa, hold up there, dangerous? The results actually show a 20% drop in LDL cholesterol. That's huge. It's completely-- - Oh, come on. One person's results don't make it safe for everyone. What about the long-term effects? This could seriously mislead people. - Let's take a step back and break down the experiment. Dr. Norwood's ate these eggs alongside a ketogenic diet. Can you explain what that means? - Sure thing, Ted. A ketogenic diet is basically fat city with a no-carb policy. We're talking high-fat, low-carbs. It's like telling your body, "Hey, forget about those carbs. Let's burn fat for fuel instead." It's pretty radical, but it can lead to some interesting results. Interesting results? More like interesting ways to mess up your body. Look, I get it, keto is trendy, but let's be real here. It's an extreme diet that most people can't stick to long-term. You're basically asking for nutrient deficiencies. It's like trying to run a car on just gasoline fumes. It might work for a bit, but you're gonna break down eventually. - I think you're missing the bigger picture here, Kate. This diet wasn't just eggs and nothing else. The guy was eating a variety of foods, meat, fish, olive oil, nuts, dark chocolate, cheese, yogurt. That's a pretty well-rounded menu, if you ask me. It's not like he was living on egg whites in prayer. - Well-rounded, are you hearing yourself? We're talking about 700 eggs here. That's about 23 eggs a day. I don't care what else you're eating, that's excessive. It's like trying to balance a seesaw with an elephant on one end and a feather on the other. It's just not a balanced approach to nutrition, period. - Interesting points from both of you. Now Dr. Norwood's introduced 60 grams of carbs after two weeks. Why do you think he did this? - Ah, now that's a smart move. Adding carbs can actually help lower cholesterol even further. It's like he's fine-tuning the experiment, testing different variables. This guy's not just winging it. He's approaching this scientifically. Got to respect that level of dedication. - Or maybe, just maybe he realized that eating nothing but eggs and fats was making him feel terrible. - It's not rocket science. Our bodies need a variety of nutrients. This carb edition sounds more like a desperate attempt to feel human again than some calculated scientific decision. - This experiment certainly brings to mind other extreme diet studies. Can you think of any similar historic events? - Oh, absolutely. This whole egg bonanza reminds me of Dr. Anselke's Minnesota starvation experiment during World War II. Now that was a doozy of a study. Talk about pushing the envelope in nutrition science. - Are you seriously comparing this to that unethical nightmare? The Minnesota experiment caused severe psychological damage to its participants. - Hold your horses there, Kate. I'm not saying they're identical. The relevance is in how both experiments push the boundaries of nutrition science. Keys' study had 36 men undergo severe calorie restriction for six months. It was extreme, sure, but it led to-- - That study was about the effects of starvation, not stuffing your face with eggs. You can't just lump these together. - Interesting comparison, Eric. How do you think these types of experiments contribute to our understanding of nutrition? - Great question, Ted. These experiments, as extreme as they may seem, provide us with invaluable data on how the human body responds to unusual dietary conditions. Take key's experiment. It led to groundbreaking insights into metabolism and starvation. This egg study could be doing the same for our understanding of cholesterol metabolism. It's like stress testing a car. You push it to the limits to see what it can really do. - But at what cost, Eric? These experiments can be downright dangerous and incredibly misleading. We should be focusing on balanced, sustainable diets that people can actually follow in real life. It's like telling someone to learn to swim by throwing them in the deep end of the ocean. Sure, you might learn something, but is it worth the risk? Come on, Kate, you're blowing this way out of proportion. The egg experiment is nowhere near as risky as the starvation study. We're talking about eating food here, not starving people, and it's providing real tangible insights into how our bodies handle cholesterol. That's valuable information. - Valuable. It's promoting an extreme approach that could be seriously harmful. What if people try this at home without any medical supervision? We could be looking at a ticking time bomb of health issues. It's irresponsible to even suggest this is a good idea. - Both experiments seem to challenge conventional wisdom in their own ways. How do you think this impacts public perception of nutrition advice? - That's the beauty of it, Ted. It shows that nutrition science isn't set in stone, it's complex, it's evolving, and we shouldn't just blindly follow conventional wisdom. This egg study is like a wake-up call telling us to question what we think we know about food. It's exciting. Exciting, more like a recipe for disaster. All this does is create confusion and potentially lead to harmful fad diets. We need to be incredibly careful about how we interpret and present these results. The average person isn't a nutrition scientist. They need clear, consistent advice, not mixed messages about extreme diets. - Looking to the future, how do you think this experiment will impact nutrition research and dietary recommendations? - I think we're on the cusp of a real paradigm shift here, Ted. This could lead to much more nuanced recommendations about egg consumption and cholesterol. We might see guidelines change. Moving away from the old eggs are bad for you, mantra. It's like we're rewriting the nutrition rule book. - Oh please, this is going to create nothing but chaos. People are going to start thinking it's okay to eat ridiculous amounts of eggs. We're going to-- - Hold on a second, Kate. You're not giving people enough credit. This could actually encourage more personalized nutrition approaches. Everyone's body is different, and this study shows that it's about understanding your own body, not blindly-- - But that doesn't justify extreme experiments. We should be focusing on balanced, varied diets that work for everyone. - Interesting perspectives. What about the impact on the egg industry? How might this affect egg production and consumption? - Well, Ted, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a boom in egg sales. People might start realizing that eggs aren't the cholesterol bombs they were made out to be. It's like eggs are getting a PR makeover from villain to superfood. - Or we might see a massive backlash when people realize that eating 23 eggs a day is completely unrealistic and potentially harmful. It's like telling people it's okay to eat a whole cake every day because one person didn't gain weight doing it. It's just not sustainable or sensible. - I think you're missing the point, Kate. The key here is moderation. This study isn't saying everyone should eat hundreds of eggs a month. It's showing that eggs can be part of a healthy diet. Even in larger quantities than we previously thought, it's about expanding our understanding, not prescribing a new extreme diet. - Moderation? Ha, there's nothing moderate about this experiment. And it doesn't mean everyone should start scarfing down dozens of eggs a week. We need to look at overall dietary patterns, not just focus on one food item. It's like trying to build a house with just bricks and no mortar. It's not going to work in the long run. - Finally, how might this experiment influence future nutrition studies? - I think this could open the floodgates for more self-experiments and challenges to long-held beliefs about specific foods. It's like giving permission to question everything we think we know about nutrition. Who knows what other food myths we might bust? - Or it could lead to more dangerous and uncontrolled experiments. We need rigorous peer-reviewed studies, not YouTube videos masquerading as science. This isn't a game. We're talking about people's health here. Let's stick to proper scientific methods, not sensationalist stunts. - Thank you both for your insights. This discussion certainly highlights the complexities and controversies in nutrition science. It's clear that while such experiments can provide interesting data, they also raise important questions about safety, applicability, and responsible communication of results. As always, it's crucial for individuals to consult with healthcare professionals before making significant changes to their diets.