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Mike Jones Spins Us Around The NFL

Mike Jones from The Athletic joins G&D to discuss all things NFL after week 3.

Broadcast on:
25 Sep 2024
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I got my Jones at the athletic to talk about the national football league Mike through three games just as we thought the Cincinnati Bengals are in last place. San Francisco is also in last place. Just ho hum normal things happening the first month of the NFL season. Yeah, you know, it's an happy hit. We've seen them start slowly the last couple years. I don't know that I saw them being 0 and 3, you know, when they didn't have that first loss of the season, I was like, well, you know, it might take them a couple of weeks. But here there are 0 and 3 here. I thought that Monday night was kind of a good opportunity for a get right game going against a defense like Washington's, which has struggled. But hey, Washington came out there and, you know, Cincinnati looked better in some ways, but they still aren't quite right. San Francisco, that Super Bowl hangover is real, man. You know, the teams that lose the Super Bowl, it's, you know, the percentage of them making it back to the playoffs is very small. They had some holdouts. Now the injury bug is really getting them all over the place. It's tough going for some of these teams that we thought were going to be competitors or contenders. And, you know, it's going to be interesting to see it's a long season. Obviously, but you get in too big of a hole like Cincinnati. I think only one team since 1990 has made it to the playoffs after starting 0 and 4. Mike, I want to take you to the Cleveland Browns for a moment. Washington plays them in two weeks, but I was really surprised by these comments today by the Sean Watson. And if he was playing better, I'd actually probably applaud them and love them. But he's stunk and the team has been bad. So it kind of that rubbed me the wrong way. He was asked about running the ball more to help out in a rushing offense. That's bad. I think they're 25th in the NFL. They don't have Nick Chubb right now, obviously. And he basically said, I'm not going to run. I'm not a running back. I'm here to throw the football on the quarterback. There's kind of shades of like the 2012 Griffin. You and I covered where he hated like any time he ran. He thought it was an indictment on him as a quarterback. And like I said, I loved that the Sean's a pocket passer who can be an athlete and he prefers to be in the pocket. But when your team's struggling and the offense is struggling, it just rubs me the wrong way that he would go. Yeah, I'm not. I don't want to do that other thing if it makes us better. That's not why I'm here. What do you make of all that? Yeah. I mean, the show much and they have a lot of credibility with anything that he says now, you know, whether it's, you know, is play or anything about him. I mean, because he should be happy to be on the field and that a team wants him to try to do something to help them win. You know, obviously, yeah, you would like to be able to sit back and throw, but you have an offensive line that's really beaten up. You don't have, you know, Nick Chubb, a special running back. And if that's what it takes to put you in more third and manageable situations, you know, yeah, you should be happy to run and do whatever you got to do. I haven't heard anybody, you know, Patrick Holmes, Josh Allen, you think Josh Allen wants to be running all the time? Josh Allen, you know, who is out there doing whatever it takes. So I just don't like the attitude, the entitlement. He's talking like he's a superstar and he hasn't been a superstar in a long time. Mike, that Minnesota Houston matchup, I mean, it's one week, but it's a referendum league that I feel like that went a long way to sort of explaining some stuff at how good maybe bonafide Minnesota is. And we're going to have to take it seriously. And that Houston still good. But what the hell was that? Yeah. Well, I mean, you went up against a really good defensive coordinator and Brian Flores, you know, he sends a lot of pressure. You know, and he knows how to make very good quarterbacks look very, you know, you know, not very good. And then look, Sam Darnold continues to prove that, hey, maybe this isn't the fluke and maybe just took time and him landing in the right situation. I really thought that we were going to see them, the Vikings really struggled this year. But, you know, they really have a chance, you know, it's competitive division, injuries kind of changed some things. But who would have thought that Green Bay would win two games without Jordan Love? So it's going to be interesting to see how that goes. And look, I think that, you know, we saw the week before last Houston, they moved the ball right, but then against Chicago's defense, they really struggled in the second half. So they have some things they still have to work out. They're still trying to get on the same page. C.J. Stroud with some of his wide receivers and things like that. So I think they're going to be okay, but they've got some things they got to work on to shore up and make sure that he's protected well. Jonesy, I remember when Matt Fleur got hired in Green Bay, man, you were on the phone and we were like, really, Matty is going to get to coach Aaron Rogers. He's getting like this hallmark institutional organization, Green Bay. And we were thrilled for him because he's the nicest guy in the world. He's the hardest worker in the world. Like you could see Sean McVavy and a superstar. You could see Kyle Shanahan being a superstar. We were kind of curious. Like, all right, let's hope for the best. But we'll see. Matt Fleur is awesome with Rogers. He's been awesome with love and with love out the last two weeks. He's mixing potions like a high school coach on a Friday night with Malik Willis. Like Matt Fleur is a dude, dude, Matt Fleur. His last year in LA, I was talking to him pregame in the tunnel. And I said, man, like, this is great. You're next, man. And he was like, man, I'm not a head coach. I don't know if I want that. And then he went to, you know, Tennessee and you know, I said something to him at the combine. He's like, gosh, I don't know. And his first press conference member, I mean, how painful that was. And it was, but this dude, everybody who would work with him knew he was really sharp, really smart. I don't know that anybody expected that. Okay. Yes, you had Aaron Rodgers, but now he has shown he is really good at game planning, really good at excellent owing and finding a way to accentuate a player's strengths and put him in positions to succeed. Because look, the, the, I don't know, the Titans thought Malik Willis was pretty bad. If they passed up, you know, keeping him to keep, you know, rolling with Will Levis, who is terrible, you know, and they did not see redeeming qualities in Malik Willis. And Matt Fleur is cooking it up for him. And he looks, you know, like a service, a little quarterback, the first game, good game manager. We saw him take more steps forward and look like a competent NFL quarterback this past game. It's just really, like I said, hats off to Matt Fleur. The guy is sharp. I remember talking to Mike Shanahan about him when he had gotten that job. And he said nobody is more detail oriented than him, which I thought was crazy because we knew Sean is very detail oriented, but he really was really proud of and high on Matt's chances of succeeding as a head coach because he saw how much he paid attention to the tiny details when he prepared and it taught and totes his players. Just a whole hum six, 74 winning percentage since taken over. Mike, thank you, buddy, as always. Thanks. I'll see you guys in the fast paced world of attacking. Speed is everything. And that's where the fear on seven plus shines engineered for accuracy and precision at a rapid pace. 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