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Frank Schwab Spins Us Around The NFL

Frank Schwab spins us around the NFL and previews Thursday Night Football.

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And you have to play the San Francisco 49ers on a road on a Monday night. Like, that's really tough. You come back, you play a road game the next week on short rest. So yeah, they did look great against the Titans, but I kind of gave them a pass for that. And now you come back and play a Thursday night game. So I don't think we're even going to find out much tonight. I think they've looked fine. I just, I don't know, I don't know a lot about the Jets right now. I just, they're not throwing it down field too much. You wonder what that's Aaron Rodgers. You wonder if that's just what defenses are giving them. You wonder if it's just going to take a while for everything to click. We just, again, they've just been such a weird scheduling spot all season long so far, including tonight that I don't know if we really seen the Jets true talent level yet and what they're going to be. Rodgers is obviously rusty. He's also old though. Yeah. I mean, how long is it going to take him to think to knock off the rust? Cause I thought specifically against Tennessee, even though the numbers were better, like he missed a bunch of throws he'll be making in a month. Hopefully I would think so too. And look, we're not going to get the Aaron Rodgers of, of even three years ago, who is still an MVP contention. I was just, I, I just can't, I can't believe that Aaron Rodgers at an age 40 coming off that injury is ever going to be that level again. But can he be a good, competent quarterback? Yeah, I think so. Look, I picked them to come out of the AFC this year and represent them in the Super Bowl because their defense was amazing and they have offensive talent. They rebuilt their offensive line. The only variable for them really was Aaron Rodgers. Can he play at a good level? I didn't, didn't need him to play at a great level for the Jets to be a good football team. Just, just be good. Be 12 to 15th best quarterback in the NFL. And I still think he can get there. Like you said, he is rusty. He is working with a new set of teammates. It's a whole different situation for him. It's almost like his, you know, his first year there. So I'm willing to give them a pass for, for, you know, what has happened. But as long as they keep winning, like you can't, these excuses run hollow when you lose a home game to the Patriots tonight. If that happens, you know, like, as long as you keep winning and you're two and one dealing with these issues, a lot easier than, you know, one and two in the sky falling. Frank, I want to ask about the Patriots. I wasn't a particularly good student, which we're probably surprised none of our listeners. And I remember the look my Spanish teacher in eighth grade gave me when I got a question right and like answered a question in a full Spanish sentence. It was like out of nowhere. That's kind of how I'm looking at the Patriots. I thought it'd be them in Carolina vying for like among the worst teams ever assembled. Like they wouldn't be able to get out of the huddle without spiking themselves and to be a disaster. They probably, they very easily could be two and oh, I've been really impressed. Give my expectations were so low. Yeah, I think we need to give John Mayo a ton of credit. I they're playing hard for him. They're playing well. They know what they are. They're, they're, they're playing within themselves. I mean, they're not trying to ask your Kobe Bursett to drop back 35 times. You know, I mean, they're, they're really managing the game well. But look, I thought they'd be awful. Like I literally, I looked, I was talking, you know, the couple weeks before the season started, I was looking at their schedule saying, you know, Oh, and 17 is not impossible here. I don't think it's gonna happen. But look at the schedule and tell me which wins you come up with. They play really well against the Bengals. Huge upset. And then last week they played well enough to win. They just didn't. I see how it got them at the end. I think sales going to be a really good football team. So yeah, just a ton of credit to John Mayo, who I didn't know. It was impossible to know what Mayo was going to be as a head coach. And he was taking over for perhaps the greatest coach of all time. So I just thought that he would struggle a little bit, you know, early on as a rookie as a guy who's never been a defensive coordinator. But I think that the, you know, if you're the Patriots right now, as we sit here today, I can feel pretty good about elevating him to be your head coach and, and where things are going with him. And, and we'll see. It's still early on. It's like two games, but I think he's, you know, so far to this point showing he could be a pretty good NFL head coach for this team. Frank Schwab, yeah, who sports with this year on GND? When did we see Drake May? I just don't know. I thought it was going to be like a week or two, you know, like, okay, well, it's not going to work with Jacoby and they're going to have to make the move. But I think the counter to that though, like Jacoby's played well. But part of the reason May is not playing is because they were obviously worried about the situation around him. Well, situation around it doesn't look that bad anymore, does it? Like they're off of the line playing a lot better than I thought it would. Reminder Stevenson's running the ball. So your excuses for not starting May are kind of not valid anymore. So I do think we see him at some point this year, but I do think it's going to be a while because I think Jacoby's playing well enough. He did not play well in the preseason. And so credit to him for really playing well when the regular season started, but he's playing well enough that they don't have to make that switch. And I think in a perfect world, the patrons would like for May to sit as long as possible, still get, you know, a little taste of the NFL by the end of the year. Frank Schwab on Grant and Danny, I think picking a winner for a survivor pool this week is really, really complicated and hard. Is there anybody that you really like in that regard? Cleveland, I haven't given up on Cleveland being a good team and I have given up on the Giants being a good team. So I think that one, that one definitely stood out to me. There's another one to Tampa. I don't look, I'm based in Colorado and those Broncos offenses are nightmare right now. It is just bad. Like they cannot move the ball. They're not going to have a functional offense for a first half of the season. I think Bonix will be fine eventually, but you're asking the sixth quarterback drafted in his rookie class to start day one. That was just tough no matter who your coach is. So yeah, but your survivor pools this year have been awful week one. I'll Cincinnati loses. And then last week, pretty much everybody except the Chargers lost. If you didn't have the Chargers, you're done. So yeah, it is hard to even just pick one winner. And yeah, I'll pick pick a straight one straight up winner this week. It has been difficult. That kind of speaks to how crazy and unpredictable this season has been so far. The biggest underdog in the league has won outright in week one and in week two. By the way, Washington right now is the biggest underdog in week three and we go against Cincinnati. So maybe that means the commanders will knock off the bangles in prime time and Cincinnati will fall to 0 and 3. You mentioned Bonix. I actually want to follow you down this rabbit hole on the rookie quarterbacks. We're happy here because Daniels, if you add in the running has clearly been the best of the three of the rookie cubies that are playing. But Caleb Williams been dreadful. Bonix has been really bad. Like what are your thoughts on trouble and paradise with those other two guys and just how long it could take to get going? Yeah. CJ Stroud screwed up things for everybody. Now everybody thinks that, okay, well, Williams, there's going to be a 4,000-hour passer on day one. It doesn't work like that for most guys. CJ Stroud is just different. He was just unbelievable as a rookie. Most rookie quarterback struggle. And even CJ struggled early last season. It took him two, three weeks to get things going. So I mean, Chicago's case, I think that Caleb is just falling in a bad habit he had last year at USC. The oven in the line in front of him is not good in Chicago, but you've got to get rid of the ball. I mean, the coaching staff has to drill into his head. Look, three steps on out. We're not trying to run around and do everything because that play you might have made against Washington State last year. Well, there's going to be three Texans defenders already trying to heave it down field the cold commitment and pick it off. Literally NFL, it's different. So I think that they just have to get Caleb to not do so much. I think Caleb's going to be great. I don't have any worry about him whatsoever. It's just tough early on as he gets adjusted. Again, I think he's going to be fine. I never had a high ceiling for him. I never thought he was going to be fantastic. I think he's going to be a perfectly reasonable quarterback in the Sean Payton offense. And he still could get there. It's just really, really hard for right now. That team is not good. Broncos fans got really, really excited in the end of August, not giving him a hard time because I made the joke like, you know, it's hard for bonics to play with a gold jacket that, you know, Broncos fans fitted him for in August. I mean, it just not happened. It doesn't happen that way for many rookies. Even Jane Daniels, he's been perfectly good. Like there's nothing wrong with him at all. But for the first six, seven quarters of the season, they clearly said, just get rid of the ball. We don't want you throwing it down field. So every pass he threw for really until the second half last week when he had to make plays was screen pass, screen pass, two yards, three yards, you know, two minus one yards by the last premise. So that just kind of speaks to how Washington wanted to protect him behind a bad offensive line. I don't think he's playing out of his mind. I don't think he's playing great. I think he's been perfectly reasonable. I think he's going to continue to grow. I think I think the world with Daniel that he's going to be a heck of a player, but it's hard to play quarterback in the NFL is a rookie. And we're seeing that from pretty much everybody. Is there a Jaden has kind of navigated it better than everybody else? Frank Schwab, yeah, who sports with us on Grant and Danny of these surprise, I put that in quotes, two and O teams. I mean, the Chargers played two bad teams, so they're two and L, but I don't know how for real, but that's kind of the question here of these sort of surprise two and O teams thinking the Chargers, Minnesota and New Orleans. Who has the best season? I think the answer most people would give us New Orleans, but I might go Minnesota just because I have so much trust in their coaching staff. Aside from the guys in Kansas City, that might be the best coaching staff in the NFL right now. At least a short list. I mean, John Harbaugh's great and all that guy, so I get it. But Kevin O'Connell clearly is just kind of a quarterback whisperer at this point. He's had San Darnell play at the level. We haven't seen him play at consistently in his entire NFL career. And then Brian Flores, all the controversy around him and the Dolphins and the lawsuit and all that, he kind of gets lost that that guy is a really, really, really good defensive coach. And you're seeing it that San Francisco 49ers had seven points through three quarters last week. That's because Minnesota is playing really well. I think they can keep this up. The world is, I just, I don't know, I'm just having a hard time buying in, but the offense looks completely changed and different. Great. I mean, they finally modernize the offense. You know, a new coordinator, Klynkoubiak, a lot of play action, a lot of preseason out motion, pretty much every cheat code you could have in the NFL, Klynkoubiak said, yeah, I'm just going to do that all the time. They're like, I think their first NFL, a preseason out motion and in play action right now. And you can see David Carr, or Dark Carluks comfortable. So I think they're going to be fine. I think, but I don't think there's some 13 win team or anything like that. And then the Chargers, I'm just not buying yet. I just, yeah, you beat the Raiders at home and you beat the Panthers or the 33rd best team in the NFL, because I can't even rank up 132 at this point. They're so bad. Like they are. So what do I really take out of that? And even this week, you play a Pittsburgh team that has one touchdown in two games. They could easily be three and oh, and I'm going to be sitting here saying, I don't really think that much of the Chargers, but Windsor wins and it's great to get them. Plug in a Hyundai EV and the extraordinary happens. It's not just the ultra fast charging capability in long range in the Ionic 5 and Ionic 6, or the adventure seeking spirit of the Kona Electric or the groundbreaking 601 horsepower Ionic 5M. And it's not just the comfort in knowing that every Hyundai EV is backed by a 10 year, 100,000 mile limited electric battery warranty. 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San Francisco, if you play there, you pretty much are on the injury report now. In addition to Debo Samuel and Chris McCaffery, we know now George Kittle popped up on the injury report. So it's almost like, you know, San Francisco, you know, when they're healthy, they're good. Well, they're not healthy. So now, what does that mean for that division? And how good is Seattle? Can they take advantage? Yeah, and I still think San Francisco wins that division going away. I still think that they're going to be good enough to squeeze out wins while some of these guys get healthy. But, you know, they go, I want to read out Debo Samuel last year. He is an integral part of what they do. They have, I'm not saying Chris McCaffery, I'm not saying Debo is a better player than Chris McCaffery. I mean, Chris, obviously, great. I owe him to the player of the year and all that. But I think Debo is harder to replace just because he has such a unique skill set that they do struggle to replace him. And they're going to struggle in offense when he's not there. Seattle is just kind of this work in progress that's winning games. But I see anyway, the way I look at it, I see the progress that offense is really different with Grub coming over from University of Washington. And, you know, Smith looks really comfortable. And I just think that defense is going to get better and better. I'm part of the Mike Mcdonald herd. I think he is, people have called him the Sean McVey defense. I'm kind of buying in on that. I think he might be. He's just a really, really smart defensive coach and maybe a really good head coach for all we know. They're two and oh, and I think they're just going to keep getting better and better and better. A lot of health on that Seattle team. I think that's the ultimate. You can make a plus, maybe not necessarily with a division, but be one of those like 10 win teams. You really don't want to see in wild car weekend if you're the Cowboys or Eagles or whoever they end up growing. Frank Schwab is with us here on Grant and Danny Yahoo sports, joining us the breakdown week three of the NFL season. The last game we watched in prime time as we get ready for Thursday night football was that stunner where the Falcons knocked off the Eagles and nobody really saw it coming at the end. What do you make of those two teams? Philly super on easy first two weeks could easily be 0 and 2. The Falcons had that dot against the Steelers and then stole one could also be 0 and 2. They got the Chiefs this week, but ran the ball really, really well. And cousins seem to come to life a little bit. What do you think about those two clubs? Yeah, it's hard to say because I I'm not a I don't like to change my opinion based on a really, really small sample and we're really given a falcon of a lot of credit for one drive. I mean it with a minute 30 left to go in the game or however long it was. Saquon Barkley has a pass that he catches 95% of the time and if he catches that, what are we saying about the Atlanta Falcons right now? They're all in two with one one touch on in each of their first two games and but they had the drive and maybe he can get some momentum off of that. Maybe he could get some confidence off that Kirk finally did look good and he looked comfortable and and I don't know though. I'm not willing to buy fully in, but I'll tell you this as far as that they go this week. The Chiefs have a lot of issues. The Chiefs are a team that could be 0 and 2. Look at how close their first two games were. I mean I say likely barely out of bounds and then a crazy defensive pass and our parents called it. A lot of people don't even think it was DPI on 4th and 16. They're that close to being 0 and 2 with Isaiah McChackell out for a long time. Hollywood Browns out for all the regular season. It looks like we got traps Kelsey's not doing anything like that. That team is a little bit of trouble. Not trouble as far as I'm going to make the playoffs, but just can they play up to the Kansas Chiefs level? I don't know if they can right now. They've got a lot of injuries and a lot of stuff going on. So that's Atlanta and then Philly. Yeah, I don't know what to make of them. Again, but say what Bartley catches that pass. They're 2-0 and we're feeling pretty good about Philly, right? Yeah, you struggle a little bit to beat the Packers, but they're going to be good. You struggle a little bit to beat the Falcons, but they're not terrible team either. So I don't want to change completely a turn on Philly based on one drop pass pretty much. But yeah, all the issues they had in the secondary and so kind of popped up when Kirk Cousins just sliced to them on that last rise. So that was a little skeptical of the Eagles. But that again, I look at them going to New Orleans and say, why can't they beat New Orleans? This whole season has been weird. So the line moved for people who bet that line moved six points from last week. It was, Philly was favored by three in the look ahead line and there are three point underdogs. What happened? Like, because they call Berkeley dropped a pass. Yeah, I don't know. So I think Philly is going to be fine, but they just might not not be that super bowl type of team that they were two years ago. Are the Lions still maybe, you know, just nipping at the heels of the 49ers in terms of best teams in the NFC? Or are we reeling a little bit after week two? I still have faith in them. I mean, they all gained the Buccaneers for her 60-something, the 2-18. I think it was. I might be a little bit wrong on my numbers there. It was one of those games where the better team didn't win. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Tampa Bay. Like you got it. You won the game and came up with a clutch interception, you know, golf in the fourth quarter and all that kind of stuff. But from play to play, to try to really outplay them. So I'm not freaking out too much about them. I saw a lot of faith in them. I think they're going to be really good. But now they go in and face an Arizona team who maybe that team is really good. Like, yeah, I didn't have any faith in their defense being good this season. I thought Arizona was going to lose a bunch of 38-35 games. But they throttled the Rams last week and you look back at week one and the first half, they did a really good job against Buffalo. So maybe that defense is better. And I thought that team is going to be a surprise playoff team in Arizona. So that of all the games this week, I'm most interested. I think Detroit Arizona could be fascinating. I think that could be a really, really entertaining up and down game. And we could, you know, it might be coming out of that game saying, wow, Arizona legit. Frank, you are an award-winning prognosticator. All right. You don't want to pat yourself on the back. So I will. You've done some good things in the past picking games among your peers. Six and a half is the line tonight. The Patriots are catching six and a half at the Jets. What's your feel on that game? A very, very epic pick on the Jets because the problem I, and I talked about it before is a scheduling thing. Like you play again at Monday night, week one against the physical Rams team on the road week two. And then the NFL was like, ah, that's fine. You can plant Thursday night. Like that is so unfair to them. And it's so ridiculous. But I just think about a better team. I'm not buying it on the Patriots being good. They played hard. They played well hats off to them, but I'm still a little skeptical. And so I'll take the Jets minus six and a half. Although big under their big favorites on Thursday night is generally not my jam, but I'll go with it tonight. I love the tepid pick that is something I'm going to be using many times throughout the season. Frank. Thank you, buddy. You don't have it. Just remember, you don't have to take every single game on the board. You could pass a few of them. That's a great point. Well, we got to make our picks like this one's tepid also. Thanks, Frank. Appreciate it, guys. That's pretty good. There you go. Week three, you have now sat down the table is set. We are ready to feast as we get ready for a kickoff in three hours here on the fan. This summer, get away in the Hyundai you've always wanted at the Hyundai Getaway sales event. Get the hottest deals of the season on many of our award winning Hyundai models, which all come with America's best warranty. But get going because these deals won't last. Add more joy to your journey at the Hyundai Getaway sales event. 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