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He was the assistant coach of the year after week one. Now, the Saints come in and they ran it when they wanted. They threw it when they wanted. I'm very fond of former Cowboys head coach Jason Garrett, would always say the history of the NFL is written week to week. And that's very true through two weeks for the Cowboys. What do you expect this weekend against Baltimore? Tough matchup for an onto team? Yeah, I don't honestly, I don't look at Baltimore as an onto team. You know, you saw the Kansas City game, right? When he was out of bounds by a back of the end zone by a half an inch, that game may have been different. The Raiders game, they had some 24 yard shank punt at the end of the game on the final drive that gave the Raiders a ball. So no, when I see Baltimore, you know, I see what everybody else is. Great defense. I mean, it seems like since John Harbaugh has been there. They played great defense. And obviously, the Mar Jackson, reigning MVP there. Henry back there. I mean, they tailored out receiver. They finally got a weapon out there. I don't look at them. And I'm sure the Cowboys don't look at them as an onto football team. Babe, what's the running back situation going to look like in Dallas in a month? Is Dowdle or Elliot the guy? Well, it's a good question. And they also have Dalvin Cook here who was not activated last week. We'll see what first two weeks. Excuse me. He came late. They signed in basically the right before the season started. We'll see what he has, but it's running back. I like committee as they say. And I think that is similar to when you say, well, we have two good quarterbacks. That means you have none, right? So they've got a committee of backs and some are unproven. And Zeke Elliott is obviously at the backside of his career. So it's going to be interesting to see how well they can run the ball, not only against Baltimore, but throughout the season. And then yeah, to that, they've got two rookie offensive linemen playing the center is a rookie and the left tackles are working both good players. But as we all know, it takes a little time to develop there. Similar question outside of CD lamb, babe. Who's the number two? Tolbert six catches this past week. It was Brandon Cooks, the guy in week one. He was not existed in week two. Is Tolbert going to be maybe the second option to Lamb, do you think at wide receiver? Well, I'm a friend of Brandon Cooks. I really am. He can still run. You know, he came into the league as a four, three guy first round drop pick for New Orleans. And he is still a really good route runner still has, I think, most of his speed. We also down just shade maybe. But I think he can, I think he can be a solid number two. Tolbert is a guy third round picked from a couple of years ago. He's just now starting to get in there and play, but he did. He was one of the few great spots last week against the Saints. He had them. So definitely work his best game as a cowboy. What do you think the expectations are big picture for this Dallas team, babe? But I bring it up because, you know, externally, I think people expected them to take a bit of a step back still be pretty good, better than the bottom two teams that division here in New York. But, you know, maybe behind Philadelphia in the pecking order through a couple of weeks, nobody's really distinguished themselves just yet. What do you think big picture this year, the expectations are for Dallas? Well, the expectation here is always the Super Bowl. But then the reality is they don't make it to the championship game and have it the last 28 years. But I think every city, as you guys know, for the most part, maybe not in New York, but the expectation is you're going to be a playoff team. We've made these changes in the off season and we're going to be better. We got this quarterback, whatever the case may be, everybody has high hopes at the start of the season. Then the season starts and you find out if those high hopes were justified or not. But there's no question the Cowboys lost a lot of good players from last year's team did not replace them with equivalent ties. Now, that doesn't mean we talked about Jalen Talbert. You know, he didn't see a whole lot of playing time last year. Michael Gallup goes to the Raiders and ultimately retires after this season or before the season started. And now Jalen Talbert's got his opportunity, the two young offensive linemen that I talked about, the two rookies that are playing. You know, they're going to look different in week 12 than they looked in week one. So I think there's still an expectation here. Here's the thing I always look at. Okay, they've got a great quarterback in my mind in Dak Prescott. They've got a great pass rusher in my comparison. They've got a great receiver in CD Land. So when you've got those three elements in this league, to me, that's a really good foundation. And so and they have those and they also have, you know, really good corner in Trayvon Diggs. And they're going to get drawn bland led the NFL and interceptions last year. They're going to get him back about week four or five. Gives you a pretty high floor. No doubt about it. Babe Loffenberg Cowboys Radio Network at Babe Loffenberg on Twitter. Thank you. We appreciate you. Okay. Thanks for having me on. Thank you guys. Have a great day. You too. Our pleasure. Thank you. Let's keep the blitz of the East moving. The Eagles, Danny, coming off of a Monday night football loss that you just can't have against the Atlanta Falcons. They led this game by three. We're on the move ready to make it a two possession game in the waning two minutes instead settled for a field goal made at a six point game and then gave up what was an elementary drive down the field. Kirk Cousins with real estate, down field shots to wide receivers. Just an epic collapse for Philadelphia to lose to the Falcons a week to a gut punching, you know, galling loss if you're an Eagles fan or part of that organization. How much do you blame Nick Siriani? A lot. Called a pass on third and three. I didn't mind that because it was a drop on an open play that was well designed to Barkley. They didn't go for the ensuing fourth and three. They kicked a field goal. Then whatever defense they were in, you could blame Vic Fangio for, but he's the head coach. They also didn't take field goals early in the game. Went for fourth downs. They didn't get just felt like a Siriani failure in this game. Yeah, it's like we're, we're going to be one of the things you talk about all the time when you play blackjack, right? If you play a certain way, like you play by the book, you don't just on whims, stop doing that. In other words, then you, you've lowered your odds. If you play by the book 10 times, you're more likely to win more, you know, more often than than you lose. And you get these like gut feelings where we're going for this fourth down, but we're not going for the next one. You either got to do it every time as the case presents itself, or you don't and you're on the risk of what happened here. Like they made the worst decision every time it seemed. They were just normal and kicked a field goal early on and just ran it twice. When they're, when they're inside of two minutes with Atlanta only having one time out left, almost every scenario, there's a reason why those win predicting stats and algorithms had them well into the upper 90s for the best chance to win the game. There was one scenario and that's what happened. There was a point seven percent chance. Yeah. According to the analytic model on ESPN, I think it was that the Falcons were going to win before the third and three point seven and they won the game. It's just hard to fathom. Another thing I saw that was weird to me about Siriani, he did not address the team after the game. Jalen Hertz did. He does not call plays on offense. He does not call plays on defense and apparently isn't talking to the team after the loss in the locker. Around Rivera's school of address. Have we heard of this before? What is it? You would say you do hear some positive thoughts on the Eagles. I thought Jalen Hertz was excellent in this game. He finished 23 of 30 for a buck 80 a touchdown and a pick. The interception was on the final drive after they gave the lead away, getting hit is he through trying to make something happen. But prior to that, he was actually moving and shaking and he had a great game running the football look like his old self from a couple of years ago. Sake one Barkley makes them a lot more dynamic. He had the big drop. I get that. But he has been a game changer for them through two weeks offensively. He's added a lot ran for 95 yards this past week. And Johan Dotson got to play a bunch because AJ Brown is out. He'll be out again this week. And despite playing most of the game and being there, you know, second wide receiver in terms of routes run, he had just one catch for six yards for Philly. They gave up a third round pick for him. Yeah. So not not involved yet. But maybe, you know, he will be later. I don't know. I mean, to me, if I'm, I know the Eagles get positivity is not really what Philadelphia is known for. But I would still feel pretty decent. I had the bones of a win. I should have had one. I'll be annoyed that my head coach probably screwed me out of that one. But that's without AJ Brown, who's among the three or four best receivers probably right now playing in football. That is a huge gain when he comes back and is able to go. And he was, you know, in all, in all, in all, likely it's going to be good to go over the rest of the year. I did not realize they play the Saints on Sunday. Yeah. Four days from now. Clary, grab me the betting line if you could on that game. Saints, Buccaneers, by they have an early bye week as well. So I believe it's that two and a half right now. Who's favored. It'll be the Eagles. The Eagles are favored at New Orleans. A two and no Saints team by two and a half points. Never. It's the Saints are favored by two and a half. Makes a lot more sense. So Eagles catching two and a half. As I say, that line makes no sense. I think the Eagles win this game. Is that weird? I have not been that impressed by the Eagles. It just feels like another shoe is ultimately going to drop for New Orleans. Yeah, they're not going to be beating teams by 35 points per week. So at some point, someone will figure something out maybe here there. Who knows? I don't necessarily see Philadelphia going in there to New Orleans and winning. I see them being more competitive certainly. The New Orleans is first to a point. It's been appointed. I'm sure that's a word. Opponents have been. So I would probably lean New Orleans. I think Philadelphia though, if you see them again in five, six weeks, will be a better team than they are right now. Yeah, pass rush for them defensively has been ugly at this point though. They've gotten next to nothing out of their defensive line. I think they had one sack of Kirk Cousins, whose two games back from an Achilles can't move that well. They didn't really move him around a whole lot a week after the Falcons got destroyed by Pittsburgh's pass rush. I mean, they looked like they were, you know, yawning and just enjoying themselves against Philadelphia. So the Eagles Saints this weekend, we are blitzing the East on Grant and Daniel, let's get to our third and final team. And for the New York Giants this weekend, they're just trying to get off the shine. It's all in two people's jobs are going to get cold into question if you can't get a win. And this is a winnable game at the Cleveland Browns for the Giants one o'clock kickoff on Sunday, but Cleveland did look a lot better to Sean Watson bounce back this past week. 31st and points scored 35th and points allowed well on their way to being one of the worst teams in the NFL. It's a struggle on both sides of the ball for them right now. Those defensive numbers would be worse, by the way, if Washington could punch it into one of their six red zone trips, they'd be down there close to 31 or 32. There's not much they do well, not much to hang your hat on at this point. If you are a part of that Giants organization, but yeah, this to me is about survival, as you said, they need something positive at some point to valid it all their decision making and, you know, sort of these approaches. This is the third year of their build, right? If you're down here, if Washington is like their planet competitive game with the Giants, if we're in that place in three years, people should have their key cards revoked and go find employment elsewhere, but that's where they are in the in this build and they're a disaster. This is how you get fired. I'm not saying able will, but this is how it would happen. Your first year, you go nine, seven and one, your second year, last season, you went six and 11. And then this year now at O and two, you have a really disappointing, bad season, five and 12 kind of a deal. That would be a one way ticket, I don't think, to figure out how to get fired. Yeah, to fire town. That's where we are. I mean, there's there's no unit for them. I mean, Malik numbers is a star. He's fun. He's exciting. I'm intrigued like everybody else is, especially from family fantasies perspective or even daily fantasy, but there's not much happening here on either side of the ball that's consistent. Charlotte Carroll of the athletic who covers the Giants joins us to help us break them down as we blitz the east on Grant and Danny. How surprised are you by this O and two start and how things have looked for them on both sides of the ball? Thanks so much for having me on. I don't think anyone's too surprised based on what we saw this summer. We all kind of thought they'd at least be one one heading into this matchup against the ground, but it's not too surprising knowing some of the deficiencies that were there and watching them throughout the summer. I do feel like Malik neighbors having a monster game's got to make people feel better. Daniel Jones went from, oh my god, he got to bench him to a pretty decent game this weekend. Those seem like encouraging signs. No. Yeah, no, it's definitely going to be excited about in the future. Malik neighbors played monster game 18 targets. The next Giants receiver heads four. So he's clearly a huge part of this offense. You saw that throughout the whole training camp and just to kind of see it come together and see how competitive he is and how hard he took that miss catch or excuse me to drop is encouraging, especially the Giants then if you're watching that. Charlotte, over the last few years, I know the rankings aren't particularly kind to the Giants, but I've felt it in moments they've had a fairly decent defense, right? Starting with that group up front. They've been able to kind of bother teams. I know Washington's offense has been pretty terrible and they've taken advantage of that certainly. There've been some gaudy point totals against the but in general, I feel like a defense is has been decent if not even pretty good at times. It doesn't feel that way through two games though. It feels like there's no, it's like the kid in front of a leaky dam just trying to plug holes and there's always a new one springing up. It doesn't feel like they can really take anything away at this point. Yeah, I know. I mean, it's up in your coordinator, Shane Bellinger in Washington, Tennessee. So they're learning or they've kind of implemented his scheme. See what happens. It's very different than Wing Wharton Dills with heavy. That was always, you know, frustrating thought about through his two seasons here. And so now we've got Shane where there's more emphasis up front kind of harking back to the old past rush of the year of the Giants yesterday year. Came on Cibido, Brian Burns, huge free agent trade acquisition of spring. They were pretty quiet in the first game, a little bit more active this go around against Washington. But still, you know, they had their moments in the sun in the red zone and of course, they now Washington to kick the seven field goals rather than score a touchdown. Yeah, I just, I couldn't believe to that point. Like Dexter Lawrence didn't do anything on the statute other than make four tackles. They really didn't generate a lot of pressure. Should we feel good about Washington handling them that way and feel like that's a sign that the commanders might be pretty good up front or are they just not really playing that well as a defensive line yet? I think you can kind of view it as goals. I think I lean more towards that they're not as cozy. So the other still kind of figuring it out and they need to do it very quickly if they want to turn the season around and move on from 0 and 2. But I lean more of that than Washington. But you never know. Tough to figure out which Cleveland Browns team is going to show up here week to week. But what are your thoughts on this game this weekend? Yeah, it's a must win. I know that sounds like a ridiculous thing to say in week three. And we were saying it in week two that it was a must win. But it's just kind of, it's hard to see them really having success with the teams that are on their upcoming schedule, the giant schedule. I don't know. It's going to be tough and you're going in the ground looking at the injury report that came out. We'll see who all plays. But yeah, it's going to be a tough challenge for sure with my own Garrett and that kind of pressure that is a lot more or a lot harder to deal with than what Washington generated. I'd say last weekend. Charlotte Carroll covers the Giants for the athletic. Thank you for the time. We appreciate it. Thanks so much for having me on. Absolutely. You got it. Thank you. That is how we blitz the east on Grant and Danny. In 40 minutes at six o'clock, we'll give away tickets to the caps 50 fest. Make sure you're listening if you want those next. There was a commander's player who had a way better game on Sunday than you realize. This is the fan. This summer, get away in the Hyundai you've always wanted at the Hyundai getaway sales event. Get the hottest deals of the season on many of our award-winning Hyundai models, which all come with America's best warranty. 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So just week two, minimum of six routes where he would have had a chance to catch a ball. Chris Alave of the Saints who's outstanding. Michael Wilson of the Cardinals and Demarcus Robinson of the Rams were the only guys who had snaps with separation at a higher rate. 87% of his routes that he ran, he separated on seven of eight. Now you can't throw yourself the ball. You cannot do anything to get the football other than go out there, do what you're assigned to do, get free. He did that seven out of eight times on his routes. How about that? That's a good nugget. And you know, a lot of those couple of those guys have not really broken out yet. And as the Saints have scored two trillion points, Chris Alave has had pretty pedestrian totals, but it just lets you know that when they need it, they'll be able to go to that guy and hopefully Washington makes that adjustment. This is one of the areas where Daniels is going to have to work a little bit to improve. We've talked a lot on the show, including in our first hour, if you missed it, some of the things we love, some of the things we've seen that we like about him so far. The idea of just, it's going to come with being more of a natural passer involving your receivers more, giving them a chance like the McCaffery thing. If he's open at that clip, we got to start looking for him. We got to start trying to get the ball in his hands, right? If you look at the commander's wide receivers so far this season, this is from Hayden Winx of underdog. Commanders wide receivers aren't getting the rock. Look no further than a league low 29% target rate when Jaden Daniels faces pressure. The league average is 60%. So when a quarterback is pressured, on average wide receivers get targeted 60% of the time. Meaning there's some throwaways, there's some sack as your hot routes. You might check the ball to a running back. So 40% of the time you throw it to somebody else and or the play does not end up with a target. But 60% of the time, the average quarterback when pressured throws the ball to a wide receiver. The commanders again, only two games, but it's only two games for all the positive stuff we're talking about too. Totally. At a 30% rate, their wide receivers are getting targeted on those plays half of what the average quarterback is doing. So I think that's really interesting. And when we're talking about like where are the numbers for McCaffrey or Terry or whoever, the flip side is 77% of the time when Jared Goff is pressured, he throws to a wide receiver, 29% for Washington. Well, clearly they're going to get more targets, more catches, more yards in Detroit. No, sure. Yeah, there's a there's a trust factor there too, right? Where you see some of these things, you see enough times on film where there's there's not enough time to process and go, okay, this is where the defender's coming from. Now I'm looking over here. Luke McCaffrey, if I give him a moment, we'll break open and free. Those are wonderful plays that that can be fun if you have time to do that. Sometimes there's a trust, you know, sometimes there's that Taylor Heineke bleep it. The corn's down there somewhere type play, right? Where I bet you Jared Goff knows like just like the back of his hand on this play at this time, if I'm in doubt, I don't have to whip around and assess the whole thing on the defense. I can throw it to an area and I bet you I'm on Ross, St. Brown will make me right. I bet you the portal will make me right. And so on, that comes with experience, right? This is all very new, both being a pro and being in this offense. You go now, if we're still doing this from McCaffrey's open 90% of the time, whatever the hell the numbers say in two months. And it's like, dude, somebody throwing the ball. It'll be more of a conversation point to me as a knock. This is still, we're learning that, right? Where there's a trust factor that has to happen, where cousins use that when he would come up with this, we'll talk about a receiver would make me right. Yeah, you know what I mean? And we were talking about the with Josh docked son, ironically, at the time, but you would go, he's not open yet. But I got to throw it before he is knowing that he will be just that for instruction. So these are the numbers compared to league average under pressure so far for Daniel. So 60% league average, you know, targeted receiver 29% we talked about, scramble percentage league average when your pressured is eight percent. So I have every 100, you know, pressured plays eight times the average quarterback takes off. I bet you Washington's a little higher. 36% there you go. So almost five times the average of turning a pressure into a scramble. As far as sacks go, the average quarterback so far this year, this is the old pressure to sack percentage. Everybody got annoyed by 18% of pressures turned into sacks through two weeks in the NFL for Daniels. It's 32%, which, you know, again, is a high number, but I'm not going to harp on it so far because mostly the sacks have been losses of just a few. You know, there's a couple zeros and ones in there on runs, basically. It hasn't been a ton of, you know, minus seven, minus eight behind the drive killing devastating. No chance for anything. We can have a different combo of that changes throwaways. We heard Mitch Tischler of monumental say when he joined us, I want to see Daniel's throw it away a little bit more. The average quarterback when pressured throws it away nine percent of the time so far, Daniels is at four percent. So about half of average. And then the other one that would be interesting would be targets. And we kind of alluded to that and talked about where the receiver part of it is at least. So I think that just instructive. I do think the key to me is he is avoided back breaking plays. Everyone is harped on the interceptions. Interceptions, you can explain away with a lack of touchdowns. Generally, if you have a really low interception count, I'm going to bet you're not making a whole lot of plays pushing the ball down the field. And zero to zero is pretty telling. It's the lack of bad plays though. I watch Caleb Williams, he's trying to do too much and taking a stupid sack or losing the football or whatever it is. That's right. Jayden Daniels hasn't really done that. I think his speed has kind of bailed him out where if if you run like Caleb Williams or bonyx, just a normal level of athleticism, maybe someone catches you and drags you down, but he's been able to play Superman a little bit. And so far it's been good. Yeah. I mean, again, that's the, that's the assets you've got over nearly everybody else, not named Lamar Jackson and maybe Justin Fields. So yeah, I mean, it's, it's the kind of thing. I also that I'm hoping that the coaching staff is recognizing. I'm hoping that the offensive folks are getting together and going, okay, this is actually something we can call. This isn't just a gimmick. This isn't just Luke McCaffrey's out there to catch one screen pass. And then he's basically a glorified blocker as a, as a slot guy or kind of rotating XZ, whatever, we can actually utilize this and make defenses cover more than just a quick bubble or smokescreen. We can actually do some things here that Daniels is comfortable with that our receivers are capable of doing because at some point, you cannot have Tara McClellan on pace for 340 yards or whatever the hell it is through, through two games because that's what he's on pace for. When do you start looking at the on pace stats and really caring a lot? Not, not yet. I'm just sort of offering context. I'm not arguing with you. I'm just asking because for me, I think it's normally, used to be for me like the quarter pole, only four out of 16. I don't know if it's because of the 17 games or whatever. I'm now like five or six five is my number. Yeah, where I kind of go. This is now a trend. It can be blocked. It can be changed, which we've seen with the corn slow starts for a couple of times, but if five games happen and it's similar results, that's enough to say. I mean, you're talking about a third of the season almost. This is more than just a things haven't worked out or we've gotten lucky one way or the other, right? It's like, this is what it is. Yeah, instead of like, Oh, that was a weird game and so a couple of weird games in a row, or that's unusual. This is now what we're dealing with. So the point of me bringing it up is not to, it's a larger discussion than I think we'll have, but the reason I bring it up is to say they've got to get receiver production at and not like, oh, at some point, really soon, even if it's just, even if it's just for show, because what you want to do is major in robots and echlear and earths, you want to get back to that. That's fine. People are going to start keying on those sorts of things. Like you've got to find a way to have some of those chunk plays to get some yards after the catch, just to make it easier on you in the offense. The commanders of the number 10 rushing offense in the NFL right now, in terms of yards per play and game, I would have actually thought it was a little bit higher than that. They've been great running the ball, 5.79 yards per attempt, which tells you a lot about how well teams have run it and how easily the running game seems to become the Saints as an example. What is this the big 12? They're averaging 6.9 yards per carry through two games. The Vikings are averaging 6.8. The Colts are averaging 6.7, the Packers, 6.4, the Cardinals, 6.2 and it goes to what we were talking about earlier with with passing offense down because teams are in these looks where there's six in the box and they're going light. So it's like fine. I'll write it right down your throat. A lot of it too is I like, he can't say this for everyone because Derek Carr is certainly not a threat to run. But the Colts with Richardson, the Packers with Malik Willis for half of the time, the Cardinals with Kyler Murray, the Ravens with Lamar Jackson and the commanders with Jaden Daniels and the Bills with Josh Allen. All what I say, six or seven teams, yeah, all of them in the top 10 and rushing have quarterbacks. You've got to account for running the football. It's just an absolute game changer in terms of defending the run. If I need to stay honest, or Jaden Daniels can rip off 30. Yeah, you can have a great run game. Like like the Chargers do under Jim Harbaugh or you know, Detroit does with with Jared Goff and company. It's harder to do that. That's a lot of moving parts. Get the line, right? Yeah, get this get my scheme, right? Get my targets, right? Get my rhythm, right? Or as you said, here's the cheat code. That's all nice. You guys got all those decisions, right? I didn't listen to that. My quarterbacks faster than your guy. So we'll just go ahead and have a top 10 rush off as good as they've been. I think it'll just keep getting better. I believe in Robinson having a huge year. I love what I've seen from Echler. I think he is even though all off season, you and I felt like there was a lot left in the tank and I thought people saying he was done were over rating it a little bit because he was hurt last year. And then when he came back, he was still banged up, but also there was no Herbert. It was like Easton stick. So it was just stack in the box running against eight. He's been better than I expected. I had high hopes, but I think he even looks better than what I was thinking. So those things coupled with Daniels, I think it's going to be there for them a lot this season. Now what's going to happen inevitably is that teams are going to say not today and you're not going to be able to run it. And now it's time for Daniels. If they can keep him in the pocket, good luck. I don't know if they will be able to, but to force him to throw the football and then we'll see what happens. But in the short term, I don't know. And it's way harder to do that because of his run game abilities as we saw in 2012. My worry is that the giants are that bad. And so what we're taking as man, Washington can really do this. I worry that it might be more like week one against Tampa where Robinson went 12 for 40, you know, and the rushing yards were Daniels's scrambles. Not so much what was what was designed and given to them. I'm hoping this was a growth week, right? And it's not just that the giant stink. Again, proof will be in the pudding, right? I'm not saying you rush for 200 some yards a week. This isn't, you know, 1992 Nebraska, but I'm hoping that they've they're taking some steps here and you add enough versatility in this offense and that run game will be there for them. I'm hopeful. The Patriots are 16th against the run so far. Isaiah Pacheco last week averaged about five a pop. My home scrambled for seven yards per carry. So there could be some real estate there for the quarterback. They didn't run it as well after the Pacheco injury with Carson Steele, about three yards per carry for the full back in week one. If you're curious about the bangles, they played New England, which is a little more. I'd say like Washington in terms of their receiving threats and not having Patrick, and in that game, the Patriots grounded in pound at them. Ramondre Stevenson, 25 for 120 Antonio Gibson had seven carries for 20 yards. They ran it 32 times and Jacobi Brissette scrambled seven times. It was like a 40 carry. 40 carries as opposed to 24 passes and they beat them 16, 10 in an ugly game. So that there's your formula. I was going to say, what's, what's the recipe look like? Grant and Danny on the fan. Let's give you an audio vault next put together a couple of clips for you, including speaking of rookie quarterbacks, a couple members of the this rookie QB class will give you an audio vault next on GND. In case you're curious, I'm wearing a red T shirt. It's a Dylan Cruz. Welcome to the show. Nat's giveaway shirt, khaki shorts and black kicks. Although if you were watching the show on the one oh six, seven, the fan YouTube page, you would already know. You already know that, right? It's available. I got my DTL shirts out of the DTL and Fairfax. It's about pickleball, and it's a lifestyle. It's not a big deal. And I got my blue shorts on and my sketchers sneakers, which are almost done. It's almost time for them to put out to pasture. Sketchers sneakers just found sounds like a funny thing to say. Maybe things have changed on the sketchers front over the years. But when I think of that, I think of like some tall shoes, the spice girls war or something. Right. Some like weird platform. School people didn't wear sketcher shoes. Me neither. Maybe it changed. I don't know that it did. These were on sale in a major way from DSW. I mean, I think in my days wearing velcro shoes where it's like, I would stomp up and like a fire truck would light up and so I get siced for velcro shoes. Were you around a couple of years ago when I had those white silly, I remember the white silly. What happened to those? I need to try to find some velcro shoes again. Hey, we Christmas coming up here. I'm a big velcro shoe guy. Let's get to our audio vault. We have scoured the internet all corners of the web to give you some entertaining audio on Grant and Danny. Let's get to it. I swear I've got candy in the audio vault. You creep. What a creepy intro. It's like a John Waters type bit. Whoever put that together really thought like this was supposed to be a scary Halloween segment. It'll make great sense in a couple of weeks when it is Halloween. That's true. Other than that, it's going to be like two audio vaults in the middle and end of October. But we're going to be like, this is so on brand. It feels like hocus pocus isn't on in the background. Vincent Price in the thriller videos about to start. I've got a puppy. Do you want to see it coming this way? All right. Audio vault time. Al Michaels. Here we go. On the call Thursday night football Amazon Prime. I always provide this caveat. Like the rest of you grew up a big Al Michaels guy, one of the great legends and play-by-play history. I actually had the great fortune of working with Al Michaels. Believe it or not, at one point in time as a young buck doing some things for ABC sports. It's just not the time where Michaels is one of the best anymore. You occasionally have to shake him and wake him up to let him know there's a football game going on. Little more energy on this beautifully designed touchdown of James Cook, please. Pass to the outside wide open inside the 10 and James Cook takes it in. Sorry about you football, man. We're all excited. We're here. It's zero zero. It's the first quarter. It's five minutes in. It's Thursday night football. It's Bill's dolphins to it is still on the field, by the way. This is the division. These are the two heavyweights like, yeah, man, Thursday night, national TV. And he might, by the way, he scored three minutes ago. He's dancing. He's already back on the sideline. James Cook touchdown. I don't know what to say. It's just, it's, it's a tough watch sometimes with my guy. So that one I can take because it was correct. It's an opaque. Yeah, if not lacking energy. Yeah. I mean, the other ones where he's like, it's like, it's a touchdown, and the dude is down 10 yards in front of the one or whatever. And everyone's like, marking it, they're going to get to snap the next play. Those ones, I'm just kind of like, what are we supposed to do here? I love this clip. I thought it was a 10 out of 10 bow nicks at the podium after the game answering a question about one of his two interceptions that proved costly for the Denver Broncos. So can you take us through the interception in the end zone? Uh, yeah. Um, chop back, do it to the other team. That'll do it. A lot of times I don't like when players are smartasses like, Hey, man, let's be a pro, whatever. I didn't take this though as in being a jerk. I mean, he clearly is being short and annoyed by the question, but it was succinct enough. He answered that. I mean, it also works as an answer essentially. Like he could give you more. They were running quarters. I didn't see it. He's basically like, I made a dumb play and he did it in very few words. I laughed when I watched that. Yeah, I took it more as the, the smartassery where it's like, I'm not answering your question guy. I threw it to the other team. When I bring up other old stuff, when my dog got hit by a car, when I was a kid, like it's sucked. I'm upset about it. But yeah, I don't know. It's, uh, if you're going to do it, go ahead and go down with it. So this audio is a little bit tougher to hear. This is from a video like miked up on the field. I don't know how many people have seen this, but this has been making the rounds today. So this is C.J. Shroud and Caleb Williams embracing after the game. You've seen a million of these coming together at the 50 yard line for the handshake. And what happens is C.J. Shroud tries to talk to Caleb Williams. He's kind of in his ear and Williams pulls away and like starts walking away and Caleb, uh, C.J. Shroud rather kind of grabs Caleb and pulls him back in. He's like, no, no, no, listen, man. And all I could say is the video, like Caleb Williams is kind of looking off into the distance. And I know he just lost and he's not in a good mood and I get all that. I'm not trying to make him out and out of a molehill, but watch it. I posted this clip at Grand H. Paulson on Twitter if you want to. There's just something about Shroud who was in your shoes last year and did an amazing job like is now for one year been one of the top five quarterbacks in the league trying to be instructive. Like we're in the fraternity together. We just stopped playing the game. So now you and I are on the same team as quarterbacks in this league. And it just seems like Caleb Williams is kind of like acting as if I'm giving him advice. It was just a weird vibe. Listen to this job. Everything that you've got, bro, is in you already, bro. You're gonna be able to play in this league. I don't know. You don't get it from that. You don't. What's happening is Caleb Williams is like the way my son looks at me when I'm like, do you have any homework, buddy? Do you want to stop playing video games and do it right now? Like this I roll. What is this boomer doing talking to me about this? That's the look he's giving. I'm going, I get that you're pissed, but damn, dude. Grant and Danny, audio vault one oh six seven, the fan as we break down some of the top audio we found on the web. Yeah, I just, the vibe it gives off is I don't want to have this conversation right now. And CJ Shroud's like, come here, come here, man. And he like pulls him back in. And as he's doing it, Caleb Williams is kind of like looking off in the distance. And I don't know if he feels like he's being sunned or like in the back of his mind. It's like, dude, we're both 22. Get away from me. Like CJ Shroud's got to figure it out. You do not. He's just trying to help. I don't know. And I asked the question when I posted, is this not interaction or no? And people have had different responses. So everyone can have their own opinion there. But it just came off weird to me. That's all I can say. Yeah, it's a typical. I will also say that I understand immediately after a game where you're beyond frustrated, so furious. The last thing I want to do is like, Hey man, here's some constructive criticism. Oh, leave me alone. So I understand from that perspective too. Except that Caleb Williams is about to go exchange jerseys with some guy from USC. And then they're going to get down on their knees and sign them and take big pictures and smile and get in the prayer circle. And it's not like right after these games on the field. These guys are all fighting back tears, especially in week two. You know, you see coaches, you see quarterbacks, you see players, there's laughs and there's everyone's having a good time. And we're bro hugging and we're, we're praying together and we're, we're taking pictures with each other, you know, Daniels and neighbors. Like that, that the post game is not a combative, angry time. Now I'm not saying he wasn't having annoyed emotions after a national TV done. I'm sure he was. I just feel like that's part of the day. You know, you're going to meet with this guy. You're going to have this quick combo. I would think you'd want to be all ears. Like, dude, how'd you do this? How are you pulling this off? So wanted to play that. Lastly, this was a late edition. Malik Willis. I thought this was excellent. Willis, who got his first win as a starting quarterback with the Green Bay Packers this past weekend, is likely to start for them as they go back to where he was drafted in Tennessee. The Titans never really gave him a chance. Now they buried him on the depth chart. They moved on from him. So he was asked if this game means more, if he gets to start for Green Bay at the Titans and try to beat the team that never gave him a shot. And I thought his answer was beyond classy. Well, I could care less for him. I think I got paid the whole time I was there for more than blessed for opportunity. They've given me and they brought me into this league. You know, one of those guys are there at night in a lot of organization. They took a shot on me missing me. They did a great job. I mean, all of a sudden. Pretty nice. Yeah, good for him. Hey, they paid me. They drafted me. I don't know him at all. Never met him. Never talked to him. I remember like there was that picture at the combine when he like stopped and like gave gear. I don't remember what it was. It was like gear or food to like a homeless person. Remember that? I don't like a viral story when he was at the combine. And between that and this, like that's enough for me. I like this kid. Yeah, I would have said, yes, this matters so much to me. Like, you know what I mean? Like all the games do it's this is pro football. It's really important. I'm fighting for my career. But that one means extra. So good for him for taking the incredibly high road. And I don't even know. I mean, it might not like I would imagine it means more than but he might actually feel that way. No, totally. They drafted me in the third round. They paid me millions of dollars. And I'm in the NFL. And I went to Liberty. I didn't think I was going to be in the NFL before the last year I was there. Whatever. Maybe that really is how he feels. That's a quarterback heavy audio vault there guys on Grant and Danny here on the fan. We'll get you ready for the Nats game before we get out of here. But next I want to get into the most likely quarterback to be bench Samad's came out today. We'll talk about that. 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