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The Beltway Blitz and how has the Commander O-line been holding up?

Hour 3: The third hour kicks off with the Beltway Blitz where Charlie Slowes updates us on the Nationals and Mitch Tischler fills us in on the teams around the NFL. Then Grant and Danny discuss how the Commanders O-line has been holding up after 2 weeks.

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Get your family squared away, schedule a free consultation with our estate planning attorneys. Visit kmloyers.com and be sure to tell them G&D sent you so that you can get a discount. Go to kmloyers.com. On the Beltway Blitz, the NFL, the commanders, and right now, the Nationals. Charlie Slows calls games every single night here on the fan with Dave Jaggler. Last night was probably not his most fun broadcast of the season as he was on the call of a disappointing 10-1 loss for the Nats. Charlie, I want to start with Mitchell Parker. Not only did he struggle on the mound, seven hits and five run runs. I don't remember ever seeing a pitcher have the problems he's had as a fielder. Fielding his position this season, what do you make of that? Something he's definitely got to improve upon. Five errors last night, doesn't get an error, but a ground ball to the right side. He doesn't break to first. Gallo bobbles the ball, and Gallo was the field of the ball cleanly, was not going to be able to get to first in time. The pitcher had to be there. And this has happened. The Parker, as a left handed pitcher, falls off a little bit to the third base side. When the ball was hit, he never moved off the rubber. When the ball was already to Gallo, he hadn't broken yet for first. There's no way he's going to beat the runner. And you just can't have that happen. You're giving away outs. And it ended up being a bigger inning than it needed to be. You just can't afford those kind of mistakes. Charlie, big picture for Mitchell Parker just kind of drilling down a little bit. I'd still say this season is a pretty smashing success, even if it feels like he may be running out of gas here at the end, going further. Maybe they ever has over the course of a season. I don't know how many more starts they're going to give him before it's all said and done. But I know it's probably not ending on the note that he wants, or maybe the team wants. But big picture again, that's a major league starter that they kind of uncovered here. And I'm pretty pleased with it. Just sort of a bummer that it's not maybe ending the way that we want. Right. I agree completely. Everybody's going to have things to work on. And he's 24 years old. And he started the year in Triple A pitch for innings there. So I mean, this guy didn't have a lot of experience at that level, let alone come right to the major leagues with the early injury to Josiah Gray. And then, you know, 28 starts of the big leagues. He probably gets one more with the Nationals having 11 games to go, including tonight. So yeah, I think it's a success for him, a success for DJers, a big success moving forward for Jake Urban. I mean, the pitching is long. What we talked about the first half of the year that that was a major step forward. And so the team ERA is 4.30. It was a shade over five last year. So that's a big drop off. Even though you could look at it and say, yeah, they were in the 3, 7, 3, 7, 5 range in June. And that's jumped up a half a run or so in the second half of the season. But still, you know, guys who have not pictured this level before, I think that's a big success and tell me much, much better for it going forward next year. Charlie, CJ Abrams back in the lineup, one for three in the lead off spot. Great to see him playing again here as they get ready to play out the string. How will you sum up his season when you look back? When he was good, he was exceptional. When he was bad, those stretches lasted a while. Yeah, great first half, not so great second half. So you're looking for more consistency over the course of a whole season. And again, another very young players doing this, you know, for the really second year as a full-time major league player coming up a couple of years ago after the trade in the final couple of months of the season. So last year, 151 games, 245, 18 homers, 64 runs batted in. He has more home runs. The RBIs are about the same. He does not have the 47 stolen bases in 51 tries he had last year, 29 out of 41 this year, 22 errors last year. Is it 17 this year? So, I mean, you could say, okay, let's look at next year. He's going to turn 24 on October the 30. Hope that next year, he really takes a major step forward over the course of a whole season. An all-star in the first half of the year, if you had flipped the two halves of the year and the second half of the year is the way he started the year, he wouldn't have been an all-star. So a lot of times you see an all-stars based on the first half of the year, they don't pick all stars over the course of the whole season. Charlie, does Jacob Young play center field for this team next year? Or are they going to go in a kind of different direction where it's Cruz and maybe, you know, somebody else maybe for age to be or somewhere or not thinking of and right fielder? How do you think it's going to go? You know, at the beginning of the year, you would have thought Jacob Young comes up when Victor Robles gets hurt right away and he's playing. Is he an everyday center fielder? Does he hit enough? I think he's hitting the, you know, high 250s, he's got over 30 steals, gold club caliber center field. If you improve your offense in other places, be it at first base designated here where the national has really struggled to be, you know, competitive, what other teams produce offensively from those positions and then you have Cruz and Wright and Wood and left. I think you could live with that. It just depends how you want to make up your team next year, where you're going to get more offense from because they need more offense. Charlie, thank you, buddy. We appreciate you. You got it guys. Be good. We'll be listening to Charlie and Dave pregame coming up at about 640 right here on the fan. Let's talk football. Mitch Tischler, monumental sports joins us now. Mitch, I thought the X was a good place to be on Sunday. Not only did the locals get a win, but there were a lot of fans there wearing a burgundy and gold. The vibes were pretty good and there've been a lot of changes to the stadium. Yeah. I mean, I think the stadium showed out well, Brandon, I think it helps a little bit that the Giants are down and fans are a little angry about it. But you know what, there wasn't nearly as much blue in the stands as we've seen in years past and the crowd was into it and they were loud and they got to watch a win. How do you, I mean, listen, it's obviously so important to win football games. You look at the home opener and the image and the vibes and everything else, but big picture, you glass out full or glass half empty when it comes to the offense where they've been moving down the field. Well, recorded yards, the rushing game looked really good. You get to the red zone six times. I normally take my chances, but then when they got there, we all kind of know what ended up happening. Class F full or half empty, Mitch? Oh, I mean, more than half full. I am very excited about what I've seen from this offense in two weeks and particularly this week. I mean, they racked up 425 yards of total offense, which is just a really good number. They didn't hunt a single time. You mentioned the red zone appearances. Part of what I've kind of come across when I look at what happened in the red zone is I think they got a little conservative there. And I think part of it was they knew the Giants weren't going to be able to kick field goals. So they were just trying to put points on the board. And certainly the superstar penalties didn't help at all. And that's certainly something they need to clean up a little bit. But I think when you look at the play call and especially when you got to those third and goals from the 10, they were a little more conservative because they knew if they just sat back and kicked the field goal, that was ultimately probably going to be enough to win the football game. And it was Austin cyber named special teams player of the week today. A guy who had a really good game kicking a bunch of chip shots or the answer to the kicking problem in 2024. Yeah, I'm not ready to say the answer to the kicking problem because the aggregate yards on those seven field goals had to have been the the fewest aggregate yards of any guy. They're all so short, but it's good to see him go seven for seven. And hopefully you can continue doing it and keep doing well in the kickoff. And ultimately, you know, you want to kick her who can be consistent inside of 50. But in this day and age in the NFL, if you want to, you know, put a stamp on answering that kicker question, you got to prove you can kick some of the longer field goals. So I'm not ready to say it yet. But certainly great to see a commander's kicker go seven or seven defense. It's only been a couple of weeks, but right down at the bottom of those rankings, you got to really work that, you know, wrist and kind of scroll down motion on the computer mouse there to find where they are. In most of the searches there, Mitch, how much improvement do you expect over the course of this year? That's a good question. I would say marginal. I mean, you hope that they get better in their, you know, communication on the back end, which quite frankly, commanders teams, Washington football teams, Redskins teams, as long as I've covered the team, I've always talked about improved communication and improved communication. So it's a little bit of a coach speak from the players. To me, I think as much as we harp on the secondary and the issues back there, I think it starts up front. And the fact that teams are able to run the ball on them as consistently as they do, as well combined with the fact that they're not getting to the quarterback. And, you know, you want to run pain and John Allen, you're two seconds and third highest players, highest paid players on the team to go out and make plays and get after them, but you can't excuse the edge rushers who aren't getting any pressure either. So I think as this thing moves forward, I think you might start seeing Joe with Dan Quay and get a little more aggressive and start bringing some extra bodies and hopefully they can put pressure on that quarterback early. And so their secondary doesn't have to cover so long. But I mean, I don't know what players we're looking at on the side of the ball that we think are going to take big steps between now and the end of the season. I mean, a couple of young guys, Mikey Sainer still, you know, Jordan McGee when he comes back hopefully a little bit. But most of these guys are kind of known entities and you kind of know what you're going to get from him. Give me something you love from Jaden Daniels's game so far and something you want him to work on. Well, the number one thing I wanted to work on is throwing the ball away. I think we've seen a couple times down in the two weeks. He has a good awareness in the pocket and he gets outside. There are times that, you know, it's better to be a little safe and throw the ball away and, you know, live for another down and not take, you know, some of those extra big hits. But at the same time, I like his aggressiveness and I don't want to necessarily take away from that. I just think you need to kind of curve it down a little bit. And that aggressiveness is both in the run game and the past game. And, you know, I really liked the throw that he made to Zach Earth on the right sideline for the first down that Earth kind of to wrestle the ball away from the defender to get there. Throw that ball online, get that ball out there to him and let him catch that ball and not have to fight a defender for it. So I like the aggressiveness. I just wanted to play within himself and play within the offense a little bit more. Mitch, thank you as always, buddy. Talk soon. Absolutely. Thanks so much, guys. You're good. Be good, bro. That's Mitch Tischler from Monumental Sports on Grant and Danny. We do have breaking news coming into 106-7 the fan right now. Plug in a Hyundai EV and the extraordinary happens. It's not just the ultra fast charging capability in long range in the Ionic 5 and Ionic 6 or the adventure seeking spirit of the Kona Electric or the groundbreaking 601 horsepower Ionic 5N. And it's not just the comfort in knowing that every Hyundai EV is backed by a 10-year, 100,000 mile limited electric battery warranty. Hyundai's EVs transform a low hum into a loud adventure. They bring color to your journey and turn energy into main character energy. So forget everything you thought you knew about EVs and turn the extraordinary into something true. Electrifying. There's joy in every journey. 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OSHA and capital senior VP GM Chris Patrick have released the following statement about OSHA's health situation quote from OSHA the last season was challenging for me my family and my teammates as I dealt with a chronic back injury that kept me out of the lineup. I have used the off season to explore and pursue long term solutions for my injury. I remain committed to the process and I'm working and doing my best to regain total health. In the meantime I will continue to help and support my teammates and the organization in any way I can. I greatly appreciate all of our fans during this time and that's from TJ OSHA so TJ OSHA will not be ready to start the year is being placed on injured reserve. That's the breaking news. Now if we could editorialize a little bit and this is no longer you know the news as much as our opinions if we can opine this feels to me like the announcement that TJ OSHA is not going to be playing anymore. TJ OSHA will try to get back. I'm sure the way LTIR works in hockey is when he's listed on injured reserve his money doesn't count against your cap. We saw the capitals very active turned over almost a third of their roster this off season with some premium players. They brought in a lot of talent. It's a very new look team Danny and I think they were banking on the fact that Nicholas Baxter and TJ OSHA were not going to be working against the salary cap and so this is not a surprise to anybody even though it is sad and disappointing but oh she's back was locking up. They become a big problem and so pretty clearly to me they're not going to use the R word here. He's not retiring because if he retires he leaves a lot of money on the table but this is a way forward like they did with back from last year and now this year where you can place him on LTIR he's still a part of the organization and while he's getting paid the money does not count against your salary cap. Yeah so this is one of those everybody benefits from it doing it this way right where you know and the rule machinations are different in every sport so I think it's important to stick to that you just offered there for how hockey works which I think is really really good. It's not dollar for dollar to be clear but you get a pretty big discount on the salary against the cap. So if he retired then you know maybe that money counts I mean it's just this whole thing remember with the Nationals and Strasburg and how to handle that nobody was really sure what the protocol was going to be. The caps and oh she seemed to have worked this out but so first and foremost oh she we're talking about him here in a second but we dealing with kind of put that aside for a brief moment this benefits the team greatly to be honest with you right like basically waiting for somebody that wasn't ever going to be able to do it is that's not good for anyone right in other words like thinking about hey when Backstrom comes back and Backstroms himself see what this team can do that wasn't going to happen and I feel bad about that it's awful it stinks it's the worst part about pro sports. Any sport frankly is that the games still count they keep churning and we need to put a team on the ice with or without a guy that's on everything right at all times for the organization that applies both to Backstrom and Froshee. So this is better for the team that we're not going to be waiting around going well once oh she comes back then what does that mean for Conor McMichael then what does that mean for uh you know this uh second line winger is you going to slot with this you don't have to worry about that stuff anymore right you're you're sort of making this decision now get out in front. Nine seasons in DC for TJ OSHA who started his career with the St. Louis Blues uh TJ OSHA because of likability how he plays with grit and tenacity and aggressiveness and physicality I mean he plays a 237 pound game at 185 pounds right that's the way to put it. People love OSHA for good reason he's also just a munch of a human being you're not going to find a better dude a better person a better family man this is a guy who has been one of the better players on the cap since his first day here but after nine years I mean his body has just kind of broken down on him if you look at it dating back to the 2020 pandemic pandemic season really it's just been different uh 21 he played in only 44 games two years ago just 58 games last year 52 games and it was constant he'd be a way he'd come back he's hurt he'd be a way he'd come back he's hurt he's dealt with many concussion problems which is scary he's one of the players in the league that started wearing this like neck brace that helps with collisions and head trauma and the way you get whiplash um and this is now the the back issue where he'll go to the ice and it quite literally locks up on him and he can't stand up he can't walk he has to crawl you know we've seen this off the ice and it's it's scary man he's got four kids you know he's got a brand new baby the fourth child he's got with his wife they live here in the area and we talked about this with two a few days ago but at some point you've got to decide am I sure I'm going to be able to live the life I want to live if I keep doing this and oh she pretty clearly after 16 years and a thousand games in the NHL with a Stanley Cup championship who could ever forget the parade back to back back to back when he was drinking the beer with no voice yes sweater because he was parched he just couldn't talk you know like he's screaming his head off for two weeks yeah but now at 37 years old this is certainly not an official I'm hanging him up but I also don't know if you get to do that without forgoing a lot of the money that you're still owed yeah so you you stay in shape you if you wake up one day and you're all better you call the team Adam Bank style and hold the stick out maybe you get to play in the game that's a deep cut nobody will get but uh yeah I think um for TJ Hoshi all I can say as I love you you're an American hero you're one of my favorite players ever and you're the man thank you for the Stanley Cup uh I would like to echo that the one of the great bits of sports theater I've ever seen is that shootout bit for Team USA I love you so much forever uh that was so fantastic so the the parallels that you mentioned are obvious between the conversation we had about to uh and then we're having about Oshi the difference to me is one guy's done it that's 38 year old thousand one thousand ten games Stanley Cup champion been to the pinnacle everything that you've got you have given right like you you have you gave it the office dude you know what I mean like there was nobody who would go man I really wish TJ Hoshi gotten more out of his ability that's never the comment about that guy right I remember once we were doing a show from uh caps training camp and I couldn't get over it like he and I are the same size but if you watch him on the ice you're going that's a six three you know Lexi protis type monster who's everywhere all at once hitting guys blocking shots winning puck battles in the corner you don't think of him as like a just a regular sized human being that you could just bump into and clear a little guy man yeah but he plays enormous yeah it's like a grown ass man who did everything right he just got everything out of his skill set love that and he's immensely talented and has great hands and all those things but he also outworked everybody around him probably at every single level for a long long time so quickly then here's a little caps fun caps game because they have so many new players all right I want you to play my guy or somebody else's guy oh okay okay here we go so these are new players are old players ready hopefully all these guys are your guys by the end of the year I was gonna say yeah Dylan strong so what am I it's our guy or new guy yeah it's I think it's over complicated I know I'm doing strong how about returning or new you have a deep fire let's say that okay Dylan strong spot I got a file okay yeah Pierre Luc Dubois I'm not yet no uh Andrew Manjiapani that's gonna be new okay uh Conor McMichael I know Connor okay very good Hendricks LaPierre I know Henry okay what about Taylor Radish that's newer for work on that one what about Brandon DuHame now that's gonna be newer okay very good how about John Carlson I know Carly shoot Jack Carly what about Jacob Chikron that's good that's newer that's spelled by the way CHY CH or UN Chikron Jacob Chikron I what about rasmusandine I know rasmusandine old friend rasmusandine how about Matt Roy that's new okay it's gonna be new Martin Ferivore I know Marty very good uh that'll pretty much do it let's say for the most part Charlie Lindgren I know Charlie Choco Logan Thompson this see this a hockey player did it's new man yeah this is new they got Luc Dubois and Manjiapani maybe on the second line Radish on the third line DuHame on the fourth line top line defense with Chikron second line defense with Roy new net minor to compete with Lindgren it's going to be a very different capitals team helping OV gun for Wing Gretzky's record this year 41 shy dude we're right around the corner we talked yesterday about OV and his 39th birthday uh so hopefully he celebrated in fashion in OV fashion in fine style last night right now as promised though call our 10 at 800-636-1067 congratulations you are winning tickets to the HF Festival this Saturday September 21st at Nationals Park featuring the Postal Service death cab for cutie incubus bush garbage Jimmy world and so much more great show gonna be a fun day all day long at the park for tickets and more event information go to the fan DC.com/events courtesy of IMP we're Grant and Danny next how do you feel about the commander's offensive line so far this is the fan alongside Danny Ruby I'm Grant Paulson you are locked into the fan thank you for making the show part of your day top of the hour and 30 minutes we will give you a tour of the NFC East we'll check in with a reporter from the Eagles Cowboys and Giants beats to get the latest on the division a division I might add I know Danny does not want me to tell you this but I'm going to tell you anyway David cover your ears earbuds you can say whatever you want the Washington commanders are in first place in the NFC East everything's okay it's fine everything's fine it's fine not your favorite bit but it's a bit we're gonna do for another Wednesday night I was gonna say you got six days give me 72 more hours to play that one up a little bit that's all you're talking about your first place commanders who's in first not the Eagles no not the Cowboys because they beat the Giants if any whatever I know it's a bit I was gonna say if anybody got a chance for the Giants in week two they'd be in first place also but whatever do you need any more cold water to add to your bucket no pour on over I just don't want parades calm down it's not a parade to just acknowledge that they're in first place in the standings that's all I'm doing stop finger guns and everybody you're yucking it up did you hear hauling notes playing you in your mind your eyes are playing hauling notes there is no hauling notes I'm not celebrating anything I'm observing your lips are filled with smile and reporting is that Kevin James movies that was that was Seth Rogan but was Kevin James in it yeah because that remember there's Paul Blart I don't think it is a James movie I think he is a mall cop that's what I'm confused yeah there's Paul Blart mall cop and then there's observing reports you remember like when Armageddon and Deep Impact came out like five minutes from each other right for some reason they're like the next wave is gonna be we'll do mall security and Paul Blart and observer report came out within like an hour and a half I have a fact for you about observing report that you will not know all right the 2009 comedy there's a actress in that movie named Colette Wolfe who went to King George High School no oh yeah she's our only actress or actor who hit it big in Hollywood I think she got in with and became friends I could be wrong on the on the how this worked out but Danny McBride is from the Fredericksburg area and she ended up in kind of that group but she was in like hot tub time machine I remember was a big movie she was in she was in observing report she worked behind the the counter and I think was like one of like Seth Rogan's love interest maybe oh yeah I've definitely seen her before I would never pulled the name but yeah that's that so I don't know what else other than those couple movies maybe young adult but Colette Wolfe I was in a lot of classes with her younger sister Bethany Wolfe who was a year older than me Colette was older than me by Colette's my age yeah she's exactly she's older than my like my older brother hot tub listen to this filmography hot tub time machine observe and report hot tub time machine too let's go here we go and anything what else we got a movie called young adult which I've never heard I was actually a sneaky good movie do you not remember I only have no file on I'm not that's Pat Naswalt and Charlize Theron I loved that movie I don't remember her being in it but I'll have to watch it again what are they doing there um I'm pretty sure she goes back home and it's like a rom-com kind of deal with her and Pat Naswalt of memory serves well how about this by the way not a huge role she was an interstellar would not have had that that is pretty silly it's she her character is named Ms. Hamley an interstellar okay I don't remember that so I'm gonna do an impression all right I don't I don't want to do I don't for me I'm Danny a King George County I'm sleeping on King George County stop we got him everywhere man German bushrade Super Bowl champion yeah Collette wolf actress see yeah it's everywhere Al Bumbry from our Oreo Al Bumbry Al Bumbry King George County you don't remember I do of course I remember yeah okay we got him everywhere you you know King George enough credit I don't think I give the right on a credit do you yeah did you give us Collette wolf I didn't have you know what if that's your case you win in court thank I did not have Collette wolf what is St. Albin's half uh Jeffrey Wright it's a pretty good actor uh he's been a lot of stuff okay uh Clancy Brown also they really back there's been a lot of stuff never uh Lester Hayes uh Jet's Ring of Honor Jonathan Ogden pro football Hall of Amr that's just like for acting and football we have other stuff too that's real interesting uh Danny how do you feel about the old line for the commander so far run blocking pretty good run blocking is a thing I don't know how much of it is aided by Daniels I don't know how much of is aided by you know the way defenses are playing them but I do know this they've been open up some holes it looks like Brian Robertson gets his momentum going has plenty of room before he gets touched in years past it was Brian Robinson fights through 9,000 people uh like extras in a kung fu movie to get two and a half yards anything he gets is like he earned it now it feels like he's got some space to maneuver same with Echler uh and otherwise it's not just on third down long give up plays um on you know third and long draws or something like that to the skat back this is whoever gets the football has a little real estate here and so run blocking wise it feel pretty good past blocking I think part of why they're calling what they're calling which is everything quick everything short everything get out in a hurry one part make it easy for Daniels the other part to me is we don't really trust this group to hold up for longer developing past place we don't have the weapon on the outside to really do it and we don't really trust our guys up and down this line to be able to hold up in kind of straight drop back pass pro so I think what they've been asked to do they've done a pretty decent job yeah I totally agree I wouldn't even just you know differentiate between the run in the past blocking to say I've been really impressed by their offensive line so far considering what a story it was all off season considering how much you and I harped on the problems that could come and it's very early and I will even say to they have not necessarily played a group I was worried about although I did think the Giants had a much I was worried about them I was I just thought they would have a more difficult group to block but if you look at it through two games at this point Cornelius Lucas has been very good he's the highest graded pass blocker on the team via PFF at 80.1 Tyler Biotis has been terrific in that regard 78.6 second highest I think keeping John Bates and honestly helps he's really really good on the edge of the offensive line and helping out tackles Ben Cinnott's done a pretty good job blocking and protecting as well Sam Cosby's been awesome I think Nick Allegretti's been very very solid Wiley's been okay his grade of 51.8 is the only of the lineman who's actually got a bad pass blocking grade the other one is Brandon Coleman the rookie and that's because he got beat a couple times by Thibodeau who had two quarterback hits this past game like think about it Dexter Lawrence is maybe the best pass rushing defensive tackle in the NFL right now in the game against Washington on Sunday he had zero counting stats other than tackles zero not one tackle for loss not one hit on the quarterback not one pressure not one pass defendant like he did zippy in that game that's a big big deal for their interior so I love that if I wanted to pick nits the penalties and that was more this week than the Tampa game but Cosme had two false starts I look ready at a false start collectively as a group they had five false starts which can never happen but I'm hard pressed to remember just plays where Jaden Daniels didn't really have a chance there was one blitz that came from his left over the left guard that if you remember like the seas opened up it was a straight blitz that got to him on a sack and that was such a quick pressure immediately from a guy coming downhill at the snap that that's something you almost think either be honest or Daniels should have figured out before yes someone should have noticed I don't know who right because the way it played out it was not like a oh someone did their job wrong it was like we didn't account for that correctly they fooled us so whether you want to blame Daniels or be honest or whoever was responsible go for it but for the most part again there was five sacks this past week which sounds bad you could maybe put one on the line if you wanted to I think two of them were on RPOs which definitely aren't their fault and it might not be anybody's fault it was just Daniels pulled it and then the pass wasn't there and when that happens you're kind of a sitting duck yeah so those two are you can just call them a boarded plays or whatever there's three other ones and at least two of those are probably on on the quarterback kind of running into you know one where Echler picked up an oncoming defender anchor and kind of blew him up and then Daniels kind of got quick happy feet left the pocket he didn't really have to he had nothing but protection and time and he ran into a sack but that's gonna happen he's young no harm no foul there really as long as it doesn't become a trend I don't know man I just I think it's early I want to see more at a Coleman I want to see more snaps he went from playing a little over a dozen snaps to 22 snaps in week two and I just I mean I'm happy so far I think they've been good in that area so there are data points that I would I want to see because I'm curious but also hope that the game situation doesn't lead to it and here's what I mean in a game like you're playing against Tampa you're down big and conventional NFL offense for a team that's trying to compete for the playoffs and and and go somewhere this year is here we got to hurry up and drop back and throw a whole bunch right now the defense knows it's coming you know it's coming there's no hiding there's no pretending we got to throw it 35 40 times in this game to try to come back and win it right I'd love to see what happens in that kind of circumstance now I don't want them to be in that situation because it means they're losing it also means that it exposes Daniels to more and you know maybe at some point you're gonna have to go through it I just don't know that I want it just yet but I'd love to see what it would look like if they had to hold up and pass pro without the threat of running without the threat of some of the play action about the threat of some of the read option rpo game etc so that's a data point that's TBD and you know as as defense is kind of figured out I don't think the Giants can really stop anything but they said all right fine you want to throw it short we'll take that away you had a counter punch credit to everybody involved is that going to be the case every week I don't know the answer to that so it's going to it's but through two games all you can do is play the two games that you have and I've been pretty impressed yeah what do you guys think so far about the line what have you liked what haven't you eight hundred six three six one oh six seven we can get to your thoughts on that also next I want to figure out which NFC team is the most likely to win the Super Bowl as of right now this minute with the 49ers banged up the Rams off to a terrible start the Lions at a bad loss to the Bucks the best teams in the conference through two weeks are the Saints in Tampa Bay I don't know that anybody's buying tickets on those teams to win the title today it supports books who's the most likely NFC team to come out of the conference next on G and D here's Camara running right side serves is in for the touchdown try to gain it here on second down pressure coming this out of screen all there's a lot of room Alvin Camara rules to roll Alvin Camara's gonna score touchdown two of four scores on the day for Alvin Camara of the Saints they have scored on every single one of their possessions through two games this season unbelievable for the Saints you could just take September off I guess they have also been under center 70 percent of the time no team has lived under center to that extent in the last 10 years Clint Kubiak's got something going on down there a Kyle Shanahan disciple a you know former Gary Kubiak son obviously Mike Shanahan disciple as well but that offense is humming in New Orleans are they the team to beat in the NFC we'll get into that in just a couple of moments first though Sam wanted to weigh in on the offensive line so far out in Gainesville what do you think of the commanders I think PFF's got them number 20 and blocking against you know pass rush we've seen some other metrics believe analytically where there's low is 22 but eyeball test says they've been okay Sam hey gentlemen totally agree I think the bottom line is we can say this they have exceeded expectations right so if we put them on a grading scale I'd grade them out as a B if you want to talk situational football like we always do the penalties or horrendous continually over and over in the red zone that can't happen but overall yeah pleasantly surprised again as you guys mentioned short sample size through two games let's see what happens when they play some of the bigger boys but yeah got to be happy so far let's clean up the penalties let's see uh uh some more anger passion over head coach head coach when that happens and uh we'll be good to go thanks buddy what I worry about with this line today is what I worried about before the season which is to say when you go up against TJ Watt or Miles Garrett or some game wrecking world-eating defensive end what's gonna happen I don't trust the tackle position they addressed the interior 10 million for Biotish they bet on Alec Grady who's been pretty good and we know Cosmies isn't gonna come at ya but it's Andrew Wiley at right tackle for whatever reason I know Tivito had had given them fits in the past he's mostly been disappointing actually and a big story in New York coming out of week one was that he didn't do anything in the first game like he's off to a slow start now if you want to say Brian Burns are they traded for his ABCs he's really really good he was quiet in the game so credit where it's due there to Wylie or whoever else needs it but I still have those same concerns like we saw TJ Watt twice in two games basically take the game over he single handedly beat the Falcons in week one essentially I don't know if they can handle a guy like that but maybe that's where a bit uh either Senate or Bates is gonna come into play yeah Mike Parsons is on the schedule a couple times TJ Watts on the schedule the Ravens defense that always seems to generate pass rushes on the schedule more daunting opponents are coming and it's not their fault they haven't played those guys yet these are tests that we haven't been able to grade and and turn in but I'm with him I if C is average to me that's the worst you could give this line so far I also would give them a B I think they've played above average football I do too and again I think a lot of it as we talk about Jayden Daniels is the construction I think it's to hide the weakness right again I you're not going to see a ton of long developing down the football field pass place you're gonna pick and choose there'll be moments when it took a shot at the start of the second half against Tampa to Terra McClellan but I don't think they're going to major in stuff that takes a long time for Daniels for them I think that's I think that's part of the the program and it's smart by the way that's what I would do also Daniels helps them and I don't just mean being able to get away or run out of pressures or something just having a guy who can run in the same way that the running game gets better because it's 11 and 11 you're not going to blitz a guy like Jayden Daniels as much as you might a guy where you always know where he's gonna be because if it doesn't get home you're screwed you know what I mean yes I do so I think that helps an offensive line a little bit too and the fact that they can move him around and boot leg him and keep him out of the pocket sometimes when you don't know where the quarterbacks at it just makes it harder to pass rush I think that that's common sense you heard the Kamara highlight coming in though because I wanted to pin you down right now on the team you would put money on to come out of the NFC so at this moment currently the Saints Vikings and Seahawks are all surprised to an O teams New Orleans having dominated the Cowboys and shredded the Panthers the Vikings who beat the Giants fairly unimpressive but crushed them in week one and then very impressively beat the 49ers in week two Seattle hasn't really played anybody yet but Denver in week one New England in week two and then the other unbeaten team is Tampa Bay that was actually a playoff team last year but the teams that we think are really good Detroit bad loss this weekend San Francisco a lot of injuries bad loss this weekend Dallas looked terrible this weekend the Packers are one in one but they don't have Jordan love right now the Rams are 0 and 2 and everybody's hurt I don't want to say you can write them off but it's about as close two weeks in I've got the pen out to write them as it gets so today you've got to walk up to a window at Thoms watch bar his sports book and we're in Cincinnati and you've got to put money down on someone to come out of the conference who is it I'm still going to go San Francisco I look at their loss this week to Minnesota as that for whatever reason they don't match up well against Minnesota two straight years they've lost that game and haven't looked like themselves McCaffery's out and hurt yep debos out and hurt I think they'll tread water and then if and when those guys come back now again I don't think McCaffery's a season ending I don't think I think the same for for debo they always seem to have that little flag a lot of cues next to their name um but even without McCaffery you're still pretty prolific if you've got Samuel if you've got Samuel Kittle named that generic running back in Kalshanna hand system you can get some rushing art not as good as McCaffery I'm not saying he is but I think they'll be okay in that regard this to me is about the offensive line getting right I think their defense is still one of the best in the NFC I trust them even with a setback here early on so I'll go differently to be different as much as anything else but I'm going to say Green Bay because winning without Jordan loved blew me away but and I know it was just the Colts and we don't know if they're any good but it was how they did it. Matt LaFlore deserves a freaking medal for the plan he put together the high school offense basically that he ran to get to 16 points rushing for 260 with Malik Willis's his quarterback and it was a decent game but Willis went 12 or 14 for 120 yards and a touchdown in that game by the way love says he's going to try to play this weekend I don't believe that I think that he won't play let's say they lose to the Titans which they might win that game but regardless he'll be back in time they got the Rams coming up I like what I've seen from Green Bay they got to iron some things out defensively but if they're able to win games without love they almost probably could have should have won the game they lost in week one in a weird environment on the road with terrible field um so I like what I've seen from them is as strange as it sounds at one and one but it's mostly because they were able to win without Jordan love defensively right there against the Colts was really really impressive to me Patrick and Fredericksburg I'm going to squeeze you in my only got about 30 seconds here but who's your team in the NFC to watch I'll say Buck because it depends on how hot Baker Bayfield can get down the stretch but Baker may feel hot in February or January and February I mean they're all the makings of a playoff team elite wide receivers a great defense and I think Todd Bold is actually a decent head coach so that's my thought but I think the bucks are a team to watch out for it's a great call man yeah I'll say this Baker is not falling victim to the lack of the passing stuff he's got five tuddies through two weeks with a interception now four of those game against Washington without a pick by the way so one and one this past week but 474 yards through the air completing 74% he's also got a rushing touchdown he's off to a great start they got a good defense excellent receiving core they made the playoffs they want a playoff game by 23 points against Philly last year I think Tampa is completely slept on yeah they are there they're in the class of good but maybe not exceptional but that's plenty good enough right now if that makes sense like they're a playoff team again coming up next we will blitz the east check in on all three teams in the commander's division got an audio vault for you in the five o'clock hour today right here on the fan this summer get away in the Hyundai you've always wanted at the Hyundai getaway sales event get the hottest deals of the season on many of our award-winning Hyundai models which all come with America's best warranty but get going because these deals won't last add more joy to your journey at the Hyundai getaway sales event now for a limited time get 1.99 percent APR for 60 months on the Hyundai Tucson or Elantra hurry into the Hyundai getaway sales event offers end September 3rd call 562-314-460-3 for details