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Jay Gruden On The Commanders Win, Bryce Young Benched, Did Jayden Daniels Take A Big Leap?

9.16.24 Hour 4

1:00- Jay Gruden joins G&D on this victory Monday to discuss Jayden Daniels’ performance and what went into the big win.

24:00- Panthers QB Bryce Young has been benched, and that headlines the news for today.

32:55- What did you make of Jayden Daniels performance in the Commanders win yesterday?

Broadcast on:: 16 Sep 2024
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Cincinnati, you cannot go wrong with any of the Ruby Steakhouses, the precinct down there, the Ruby Steakhouses downtown. There's about three of them in Cincinnati all over the top notch. Montgomery is a good place if you want some ribs and there's a little tabber in the Montgomery Town Tavern right next to the Montgomery Inn right there, but there's a lot of new stuff in Cincinnati that's been built downtown. I wasn't there. We're just now getting under what I had left and it's quite different now than when I was there. So I think you can just fade downtown and have a good old time. I love it. Honor on the road. Jay Gruden is driven by the Tebrador Moto Group, Tebrat Ford and Chantillion Fairfax. You're from 50 headquarters, Tebrat Chantillion Lincoln and Tebrat Chevrolet and Sterling home of Tebrat for lifetime vehicle coverage. See and shop them all at Tebrat.com. I guess this was probably after you left Jay, but do you know about the famous hippopotamus there Fiona? I do not know about the famous hippopotamus there named Fiona Fiona, Fiona, the hippos, my favorite. So she was born at like 18 pounds and hippos are normally born at like 400 pounds. And then she was nursed to health by all of these people that work at the Cincinnati Zoo. And my wife was obsessed with her and has a bunch of T shirts and stuff and went and visited her. But basically Fiona survived and is now a flourishing, excellent, lovely, lovely hippo with a family and everything. Well, what a story. I'm with you, Jay. I never got it. I still don't get it. And I'm amazed that anybody spent a microsecond Fiona, the hippo. I'm sure there's a baby pigeon out there somewhere that was nursed to health too. If you want to go visit her or Dale, the pigeon, I'll bet you if I find it and I have the city of my wife will go see the pigeon. You just let me know. Yeah. That's something you guys can do on your own. I love it. Jay. Would you make a J and Daniel's essay? Let's start there. He's solid. You know, it's a second game and did not turn the ball over, which is critical and he's close game. When you're deep, that's the plan. Pretty good. The other teams have been struggling. You had to win these close games and that's what happened and turnovers will kill you. Look, it's, uh, we'll love it. You know, one bad turnover and they lose the game that the game and hand against the jets, but the cost of the game. So it's all these protecting the ball. I know everybody wants to see touchdowns in the red zone, they'll come, but just make sure we at least get points, keep the game close and try to win at the end like they did. What changed in the second half because that was the best he's looked by far in terms of being willing to stay in the pocket and make throws. I thought he was excellent in the second half of the game. He ended up throwing for almost 140 yards in the final couple of quarters. Yeah. You know, it's great to see Brown make a big play. Stepped in his throws. That 34 yarder to Brown was, uh, quite a throw. You know, they brought a fire zone neckler stepped up and made a great block and he just had his feet and let it rip, you know, and that's something that, uh, you'll see more and more of it. The more he can see some things and feel like there's no pass rush around him. He has clean pockets, you know, he needs to have some clean pockets in the last night or yesterday. He had a little bit more in the second half. I think the giant defense was a little gas because they're out there quite a bit and balls getting run down and throw it a little bit and, uh, couldn't get to the pastor. So gave him some time. Yeah. You mentioned the red zone woes. I'll take, you know, well over 400 yards of offense scoring on every drive that they actually, you know, non, it kneeled down to the first half division and those kind of opportunities. They'll take my chances every time, but they did stall out in the red zone. What did you see once they got down there, uh, the prevented touchdowns? Well, there's a couple of things, a couple of penalties, a couple of facts, you know, they tried to get some guys open and he missed a throw over the top of the defense on one of them. He threw it out of the back of the end zone. Um, there's a couple of plays that they ran on our PO that didn't work at all. They tried to run the ball in third and short one time and didn't get it the Echler. Um, just a lot of things, but, uh, you know, the good thing is they ate up a ton of clock. You know, that first drive was 10 minutes, you know, in a giant store where the best, the best thing for a struggling defense like Washington has is half 10 minute drives all the time. That's what Washington did. Unfortunately, they didn't convert, but there's a lot of reasons, um, you know, they'll get better with time, but, um, I think overall, I played pretty good. Their running game was great yesterday and I have a hard time thinking Daniels isn't kind of the reason why they're running it so well. It goes back to, you know, when I was covering the Kyle offense here in 2012 with Robert and Alfred Morris, who you would inherit, you know, he went for 1600, but you got to defend 11 on 11 and Jayden's now shown the ability to keep it and be so dangerous. So B Rob rips off two 30 plusters. He's never done that once in his career. He went for 130 Echler went for 40. I mean, they ran for two 15 as a team. It seems like they got something brewing here. Yeah, absolutely. And you could see one of the times it was a true hand off and Jayden just took two steps after he handed off and there's two guys trying to make sure he didn't have the ball and then there goes the inside zone popping out of there. So yeah, that is a hell of a weapon to have. Jayden Daniels, the threat of his own reader him carrying the ball getting outside the numbers is scary on defenses and you have to have people account for him and that'll open up things for Echler and Robinson like it did. So speaking of that running game in week one, obviously Daniel scrambling was was so instrumental for their offense doing anything mostly through through three quarters running back. They really get going as much this week, you know, 170 yards give or take between the two backs. What's sustainable from this week, Jay going forward in terms of the running back portion of the running game? Yeah, I think it's all going to depend on whether or not Washington manufacturers, some big plays in the passing game and force them to high safety because they're going to see a lot of single high safety, the more teams prepare for them and they're going to force them to try to throw the ball. So Terry's got to make some big plays, no Brown like he did last week or somebody else in the passing game to scare defenses where they have to keep, you know, safety over the top of Terry or what have you, but the more they play, the more they're going to see loaded boxes, it's going to be a little bit more difficult. But the threat of Jayden running, like I said, still going to open up some holes for the robin Echler. I was talking to someone earlier today, it just watched the game back and they talked about how hard it can be on some of the RPO decisions where if you pull it and the guy's not immediately open or the pass isn't there, it's almost like a lock for a sack and that happened a couple of times. You got six, four times in the first half and five times if you count the one in the second half total, but can you expound upon that for people like, you know, a couple of those sacks that where he goes forward, loses one or two or whatever, you know, not the end of the world. Those are like RPOs that go bad, basically. Yeah, a couple of them didn't work, you know, he pulled one of them out and tried to hit the swing to the back, it was covered and, you know, the thing about RPO is the lineman don't know if he's keeping him or handing it off. So they got an illegal man downfield one time. So they're blocking downfield. If you're going to throw the RPO, it's got to come out fast right now to it. A quick flampe by a receiver, a hitch out there or a screen, which I've had a little bit of success with, but if you have to hold the ball at all, the protection is so bad, he's going to get killed. Well, that happened a couple of times he had to scramble around and took a couple sacks, but that's just something they got to continue to work on. RPOs, I think, you know, they'll probably dwindle a little bit, but I do like the zone read part of it and some of the bootlegs off of some of these things, but the RPOs, they just got to get on the same page and Jayden's got to realize that, hey, if I hold this ball longer about a second, I'm either going to get killed or we're on a legal man downfield. Jay grid with us here on Grant and Danny. So Jay, and passing numbers are down sort of across the league. I think almost half of the guys that threw yesterday didn't have 200 yards. I mean, it's just a different time it seems through a couple of weeks. So this is, you know, all kind of with a grain of salt, but where are their chunk plays going to come from? Forget about the home runs or 97 yards, the Justin Jefferson or, you know, whatever the Saints play, I guess, but those, those like 12 to 20 yard kind of strike plays that sort of change field position or, you know, kind of bail you out and kind of make things easy. Where are those going to come from weekend and week out, do you think? Yeah, I think if they, you know, limit some of the RPO stuff and go into more play action passes where they're holding it in there and pulling it out and trying to hit the quick flan over the middle of the glance route over the middle or with a deep comeback or what have you, where it's more of a true pass protection, not just guys blocking the run. I think they'll be able to hit some, especially if they have success running the ball. This is a great testament for these guys moving forward to run the ball like they did against the Giants. His front is pretty damn good. You know, I didn't think they'd have much success with the front of the Giants ad, but that'll scare the hell out of some people that'll make linebackers bite on some of these actions. And then you get people sneaking over the back of their, over the top of them and half some big plays that way. So three level throws, quick throws. Like I mentioned, I think they'll come in bunches here in the future. So is that harder to do some of that plactions that you're talking about if you're in shotgun almost exclusively? No, no, there's a lot of things that do the play actions out of shotgun and they're quite effective actually. You just got a hole in there and sell it. Like I said, if you could still sneak some guys around there behind behind the defense behind the second level, the defense. Jay Gruden on Grant and Danny every Monday at five o'clock. Great insight on Washington's game after he watches it back and within the next few minutes we'll start going around the NFL with him as well. You referred to Noah Brown earlier, he had three targets, three catches, fifty six yards made an immediate impact at the 34 yard catch to set up the game winning field goal. On a similar concept to drive earlier, he made a diving catch on a ball that was thrown on a dart and he made a really athletic play. I loved how he separated at the top of his route for a big guy. He's already seemingly their second wide receiver. It feels like. Yeah, things that way. I don't know where these other guys have been, but somebody has to step up. I mentioned it last week to take a little pressure off Terry and give them a legitimate target on the other side. If they're going to keep Terry on one side than that other side, they better have somebody out there. They can get some separation and make some big plays and no Brown looks like he's emerging as that guy. You know, they still have the other Brown, the Lamy, he's got to make some plays and obviously the rookie McCaffrey, but you know, Noah looks pretty good. You know, he's a veteran guy. He went to Ohio State. He's a physical guy in a running game. So he'll help out blocking for McCaffrey and B. Rob as well. So it's a good guy to have out there. Jay, you mentioned Termacorn a couple of times and we're big fans of Termacorn just in this city and on the show and everybody likes the guy. He's a great dude. Do you think it might be time to have kind of a tough conversation about how good Termacorn actually is? I'm not saying he's benchable or anything like that, but we've always thought of him as, Hey, he's a number one. He's really good. Is he? I'm wondering through through a couple of weeks, it's truly to put to slam the gavel. But what do you see him from him in terms of getting open, getting off of a press and and is he towards that upper echelon of receivers still? I think he is. Yeah, I just think opportunities haven't been there for him and Jayden's got to gain trust in him like he had trusted Brian Thomas and the league papers at LSU give him some opportunities in the deep passes. Even if he looks like he's covered, you know, some of these big time receivers that have been getting all the money, you know, they're not always wide open, but the quarterbacks give them opportunities. And I think if he trusts Terri to make a play where it won't be intercepted, he just can be a complete or a big player passing her parents and give him some of these opportunities. Terri will come through for him. He's got to gain the trust in him and I'll take a little time. Jay, I used to love how you used Chris Thompson thought he was perfect in your offense and you did some good things with him. Austin Eckler who's always had that kind of game has been fantastic through a couple of weeks. Are you surprised with how spry he looks after the expectation or at least the narrative around him? This off season was he was washed. Yeah, no, I think they're using them perfectly with the amount of reps as well. He's not a guy you want to give the ball to 15, 20 times a game. He's in a role perfect, very similar how we had for Chris. Chris usually carried a ball six, seven times a game and we use him in the passing game. He's a great pass protector and that was a great role for him and Austin is thriving in this role. And he can stay fresh. It's a great change of pace from Brian Robinson. So that one, two punches, pretty dangerous for Washington, moving forward by love how they're using them and the amount of time and the amount of play snaps he's using is perfect. Joe, when I ask you about Washington's defense at this point, we thought it'd be better. Not how much better. I think that was, well, we didn't know how much, but I guess is the way to phrase it. We thought there'd be some improvement and they're right at the bottom of the league again and pretty much every rankings through a couple of weeks. What do you see when you watch that group and how would you attack them as an offensive play caller? Right now you can attack any way you want to, to be honest with you. Single Ferriero almost 100 yards and Daniel Jones had was pretty comfortable in the pocket for the most part. If Malik neighbors doesn't drop that pass on the sidelines, it's probably going to be another touchdown drive for the Giants whose offense struggled mightily last week. So they've got to figure some things out when they start playing from good offense. The Cincinnati's going to give them a little bit of a problem if T Higgins plays because they'll be able to run the ball and throw the ball with some monster weapons on the outside. But the cornerback plays, it's hard for them to stack the box because right now their corners aren't playing very good, so they're afraid to cover Ferriero long, so they play covers, they're not stopping the runs with like boxes, so they're right now in a conundrum of what to call. So they've got to be very creative and their defenses are stunting their blitz packages because they cannot leave their corners on an island right now because they'll get gutted. Jay Gruden on G&D and primetime performance last night in a second straight clunker for Caleb Williams. First of all, what have you made of him through two weeks? That offense has looked pretty gross. And should we be feeling a lot better about Jaden Daniels, who's been very solid based on how Caleb Williams looks or small sample, not worth comparing the two just yet? Yeah, I wouldn't compare them yet, you know, they're both one-on-one, that's comparable I guess, so that's very good. But Caleb is, they've really struggled, protected Caleb in known passing situations, obviously Keenan Allen didn't play last week, so that hurt him a little bit. Dunezae's kind of banged up a little bit, but you know, their offense alliance struggled against the text. A lot of teams will, you know, hunter on the outside and Anderson on the outside, those two guys are pretty good pass-rushers, and Daniko Ryan's has an excellent job of those blitz packages. I don't know who could have played quarterback for the Bears just last night, because he got tumbled. I mean, he got sacked seven times, could have been nine or ten times, and if you can't protect the rookie quarterback with the running game or your pass protection, and no matter what the quarterback is, who he is, what he was drafted, where he was drafted, they're going to struggle, and the Bears right now got to figure out their pass protection woes and how to protect this kid, because he's not going to last. Jaden, just looking at the league at large, we referenced this earlier, but why do you think passing is, is sort of trending down in terms of some of the way I'm used to opening season. It's like 400 yards, four touchdowns, seven different guys do at Ho Ham. It seems that yards and sort of the, some of the big plays, again, the Saints and maybe Minnesota this past week and notwithstanding, are seem to be harder to come by. What do you make of the kind of passing totals being watered down here? I don't see a lot of guys open. You know, there's not a lot of good receiving cores. I mean, it seems like there are, but I just don't see a lot of guys getting open, you know, and the, and the pass protection hasn't been great either. The defensive coordinators do a great job at these line games and twists and glitches and pick the tackles. I mean, I mean, Ryan Flores ran a number on the, on the San Fran with some of the, I mean, he picked Trent Williams and the guy from the defensive end rushes inside. It's hurting a face. I mean, some of these stunts are very difficult and unless you can run the ball and protect your quarterback with some plactions and get some big plays on first and second down, if you're going to be in known passing situations, you're going to struggle against the Browns. I mean, there's some talented players, quarterbacks and offenses that are struggling because, you know, it's very hard to pass protect. You mentioned Flores. The defense has been very good, but your former coordinator, Kevin O'Connell, has the Vikings at two and O and Sam Darnold looking a lot better at quarterback than we've seen him in this league. What do you think of their start? It's awesome. And they're playing great complimentary football, you know, and they're getting a couple big plays here and there, the 97 yarder to Justin Jefferson is a game changer and they're making teams move the ball 70, 80 yards on 12, 14 plays. And when they get third down, Flores has a unique pass rush package that he gets home. He's got a lot of guys that could do multiple things on defense, whether they're rushing or dropping very confusing. The disguises coverage is extremely well and confuses quarterbacks from they're going to be in a lot of games because they play good defense and the Sam Darnold continues to protect the football and the running game is just good enough to put a little pressure on the defense. They'll be competitive in just about every game they play. Jamie, when we're watching some of these games, you know, we, we draw this conclusions week to week like Dallas looks great week one gets shellacked in week number two and it's, you know, so hard to predict when you were coaching, right? As both of the, as an OC and then as a head guy, when did you feel like you knew who you guys were? Like how long did that process take for you internally and then let alone like schlubs like me on the outside? Yeah, that takes a little bit of time. You know, it's just hard, you know, the, the good teams that last throughout the season are the teams that stay healthy. You know, Kansas City as good as they are, as good as Patrick Mahomes, they've been pretty lucky as far as their health is concerned. Their star players play every game and that's important. They lost a checo yesterday, so we'll see how they do there. My man, Samajj, P-Rine's going to get a shot. But you got to stay healthy, that's number one and your star players have to play like stars. If your star players are struggling, you're not going to have a very good year. So I based it on our star players, our quarterback number one, our quarterback play and then our pass rush, how good our Atlanta scrimmage was, you know, I always believed in protecting the quarterback and getting after the other quarterback. You can do that. You felt pretty good about your team. But if you struggled in one of those three areas, it's going to be a long year. If one of these teams ends up being better than is expected, which one would you pick? I'm going to give you the New Orleans Saints who have scored on every single drive. Clint Kubiak's friggin' been money, Derek Carr's lightened it up. The LA Chargers under Jim Harbaugh, who were 2-0, seems like everywhere he goes, he wins. And then the Steelers who accidentally started Justin Fields and have begun their season 2-0 plus 15 in margin. Which of those three do you think has the best chance to be really good? I think based on schedule, I'd probably say the Saints, you know, I think the Buccaneers are still going to win that division, but playing the Panthers and Falcons twice. Yeah, we got to realize now that the Falcons, the Steelers played the Falcons and do they just beat... Denver Broncos. They're not very good. You know, the Chargers beat the Raiders and they beat Carolina. Those are two teams that are struggling a little bit, but the Raiders got a huge win. They'll get me wrong. But there's some really struggling football teams right now in the National Football League, about 8-10 of them. You beat those guys early in your schedule and get some wins against those teams. And you'll be, you know, in the hunt as the season goes on. But I just don't see anybody still competing with some of the upper echelon teams right now. The Kansas City's, the Chargers, the Lions, you know, some of these teams. But, you know, every week is different. And of those three teams, like I said, I like the play the Saints are playing. They got a good defense a little bit, they got a good corner. I like them because they can blind you up and base personnel. They did a lot of two tight end sets and two receiver sets and two receivers and a full back and a tight end. And they forced teams to play base defense. And nowadays, not a lot of teams have enough good linebackers to play base defense. It sounds silly, but a lot of teams are in nickel personnel 90% of the time. Now here come the Saints and they're just bludging you with this full back and these tight ends. And they bring in Hill. Sometimes I take some Hill and he gives you, you know, he does a good job. So, and then the playoffs is off of it or nasty. So I like the fact that they can play very physical football, Ruiz, the guards playing good. They have the rookie tackles playing outstanding and and they're protecting Derek. So they're going to be in a lot of games. Philadelphia landed tonight. Who do you like and why Philadelphia? I think kills them. Be honest with you. I just don't think Atlanta has enough weapons for Kirk right now, you know, outside of London and be John, they're going to struggle a little bit protecting Kirk and he's not moving very well. So I think the past for Philly, you'll get home and Philadelphia win pretty easy. How do you get him moving or what do you do? Maybe the better question is, let's say you're, you're these head coach, you're drawn up a game plan tonight based on what we saw where he had to be in pistol or gun. And then even more discouraging may have been the video that came out from practice last week when he was dropping from under center and it looked really rough. Like, what would you design or what would your plan be for him? Well, I said this all along, if he's not 100% healthy, he can't do the play actions. I wouldn't plan. You know, his strength is first second down play action is underneath the center and holding that ball out and pulling it out and hitting those glass routes and those deep crossers. And that's what he's really, really good at. The bootlegs outside and the downflats a tight end, a low crosser coming around. He's really good at that. As far as just drop him back and throwing and being a sit and duck back there, I don't know if this is what they want because they don't have enough receive. They got Drake on and they got a little got booty and they got a little Ray Ray Robinson, Ray Ray, whatever they're looking. Ray Ray McCloud. Yeah, they're little and they're not going to get open for Kirk. He's got to wait and Kirk has to see guys open to throw it. These routes take some time to develop and they're going to have to block sweat and Josh Huff and Jalen Carter. It's going to be a long day for these guys, but the strength of Kirk's game is first second down. They got to utilize Beijon Robinson. He's got to have a big day for them to have a chance and then he'll do some perimeter screens and some screens of Beijon, but he's got to be successful on first and second down. Otherwise, they're in a world of crap. Jay, awesome as always, buddy. We talk to you next week. All right. Thank you guys. I think that's a professional term. World of crap. That is an industry term. Yes. 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Tyler Higby, pop, Joe Noteboom IOR, Connor McDermott IOR, Steve Avila, injured reserve, Jonah Jackson, injured reserve possibly, Darius Williams IOR, Darien Kendrick IOR, John Johnson could be headed to IOR. They are maybe done and the season is just starting. They got demolished by the Cardinals yesterday and they were, it was competitive. I mean, it really wasn't. The Cardinals could have put up 60 points if they felt like it. It was Sean McPhee. Yeah. Go win coach of the year. I mean, they make the playoffs. It's yours. So remember, they got off to a horrendous start last year and everybody kind of wrote them off and said, you know, they're done. They're not the, the dynasties over or whatever the, the, the bleep them draft picks window and clothes and ha, ha, ha shame on them. And then they were unbelievable down the stretch. The only loss was an, I think was an overtime in Baltimore, one of the games of the year and they were frisky. They were pretty good. I didn't have a great feel for what would happen. I didn't know they'd lose half of their roster within the first two weeks of the season, including, you know, their two best pass catchers. But yeah, it is a bit of an adventure out there. Their wide receivers this weekend will be Jordan, Whittington and Demarcus Robinson. Go get a Matt Stafford. I mean, that is ugly early just from a health standpoint for the LA Rams. How about this stat on Bryce Young, who was benched today by the Carolina Panthers? Dave Canales met with the media, said in that media session that he was sitting Bryce young because it's what's best for the team. He also thinks long term it's going to be what's best for young. They're going to reset the young quarterback who was really struggled since last year. Everyone beat up on Zach Wilson thought he was the worst quarterback in history of the world. His net drop back per ETA through his first 18 games. If you add up all of the bad for Zach Wilson was minus 101.8 after 18 career games. You tracking this? I think so. Yeah. Minus 101.8 same sample size for Bryce Young minus 162.5 Lord and expected points added. I mean, this is my all time I was wrong. I mean, you know, who knows? Maybe the turnaround happens. Doesn't look likely now. Now that he's been benched for any Dalton, then we're doing the gives us the best chance to win nonsense in Carolina. He was so accurate, but decisive and anticipatory with his throws in college. And I don't remember anybody that didn't think he'd be good. Now everybody thought his size could be a problem, but that's different than him being terrible at quarterback. And it's very different than this guy will be better than CJ Stroud, which was the prevailing thought everywhere. The question was, would Stroud go to or would he fall way down the board? Will Levis go in the top five or would he end up sliding, which he did? There was really never any question about who was going to go one one in the months leading up to the draft for the Carolina Panthers. But everybody was wrong on Bryce Young, I mean, loud wrong to watch watching that game where he went back and forth with, um, uh, and then hooker and Tennessee, remember that game that Alabama Tennessee game that just the best college football theater over the last couple of years, it was the offensive performances were just stupid, right? As they were going back and forth and you're going, and this is poetry watching this kid just eat, just glide out of trouble, you know, throwing back across his body, hitting guys in stride. As you said, anticipatory throws, everything that you could do to say, I'm ready for the next level. He was doing, and then some he looked so incredible. That's as good as you look then is as bad as he looked now. I mean, the lowlights write themselves, but you've all seen the montages where there's a guy open and he can't literally see over his center, so he tries to jump. Like he's a, uh, you know, like, Anthony Hardaway coming down the lane looking for someone to pop open just, it was embarrassing at this point. Yeah, there's very little redeeming happening for that offensive for him. He was completing 55% of passes. No touchdowns, three interceptions. They had lost both games, not competitively, uh, and in his career and 18 starts there, two in 16 is a team, but he's completed sub 60% more interceptions than touchdowns. And that only begins to scratch the surface on how bad it's gotten. But I saw this from Jordan Schultz, who's plugged in with all the agents. He tweeted today, according to his sources, Panthers quarterback Bryce Young and those close to him were, quote, very shocked at the organization's decision to bench him this morning. It came out of nowhere. One source said safe to say. No one anticipated the plug being pulled after just two games with a new coaching staff. Ask me. Call a call on me. Oh, grip. I mean, you can't keep playing and playing at that level. I'm all for giving guys a chance and continuing to play them. Sure. Absolutely. But in, in his case, you lose a locker room. If you keep playing a guy playing as badly as he was when everybody's at practice and knows Andy Dalton's at least going to find me when I'm wide open. Andy Dalton's at least going to get the ball out in a timely manner. Like what was happening was unacceptable. There's, he's struggling. He's got to figure it out. And then there's a, this is disqualifying and he was playing at that level. Doesn't mean he'll always play at that level, but you unplug. This is the hard reset. You know, this is, you're talking to the, the IT guy and they go unplug, sit there for a car. Cut the hard line here and plug it back in. This is the football version of that. You're going to bench him for a month and then you want to put him back in later in the year when the season's over and it's developmental time and see how much different he looks. Go for it. But this is the turn it off and turn it back on part. Yeah. I am almost in every case a, if you're going to be bad, you should be bad with developmental intentions. Right. You should be purposely bad. Hey, if you're not, you're not winning any games. If you're Carolina, having an adult and get you to three and 14 versus two and 15 doesn't help anybody. That's, there's no benefit to that. It's a waste of time. 99.9% of the time, that's how I feel. In this case, you already said it. It's that bad that nothing can happen. Like he's, he's playing so poorly. It's only to give him a chance because I don't know how much of a chance they have with anybody back there right now as bad as that roster is and as bad as that organization is. And I feel for him because I have been there. I know what it's like, but it's a non starter. Like it's non competitive. You know what I mean? It's like it's like calling up a major league pitcher and going, this kid's got great stuff and then tell me, oh, he has control problems. He cannot throw a strike. He's and killing in a playoff game and you're like, you can't just try them out there every fifth day. We got to put them on the engine list. We got to send them down. You got to do something else because it's not competitive. And that's what it is right now. We got Dan Quinn, audio for you at best of his press conference that they coming up in 20 minutes at six o'clock here on G and D. What I want to get into though, is a quarterback in town who does as a young guy look like you know what he's doing and does look better than Bryce Young has and that's Jaden Daniels who had some issues in the first half offensively. It was ugly at five. Paul starts in the red zone, but two timeouts on the first drive call just trying to get up to the line of scrimmage. But as the day went on, it seemed like Daniels really started to have things slow down around him, got comfortable, started operating their offense and throwing the football pretty consistently. It was the best we've seen him as a passer early on in his young career, 12 of 16 for 140 in the second half. How did you think Daniels played? You can hop in at 800-636-1067. We'll go through the good and the bad from his performance. There was a lot more good than bad in the week number two next on G and D. [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] The commanders are one and one and for the first time in his two games as quarterback Jaden Daniels got to walk off the field a winner. Welcome back, Grant and Danny on the fan, the first of hopefully many and what we're all hoping is going to be an illustrious career here in D.C. Danny, what do you think of Daniels in game two? I was pretty impressed. Now nothing world beating here. We didn't see the second coming of anything. We saw was a base being built of the safe, quick, short, easy stuff that I would major in by the way that I love, especially early on in games because what you're doing, it's equivalent of a running game, which they had going as well. But it's those body punches, right? It's that it's the little jab that keeps the defender at bay and so eventually they get sick of it and then stuff opens up. Then later on after you soften the target a little bit and they get tired of those little five yarders, seven yarders, eight yarders, six yarders and it's second and manageable a lot. You're standing on the field, which they did. You could sick of those and then you could hit your deep stuff, then you can hit your double moves, then you can hit your kind of strike plays, that kind of intermediate stuff that became available. Ultimately, in the second half, I saw a guy that as the game progressed seemed to become more comfortable. I don't like panics the right word that so I don't have a better one than that. So I'm going with it, but just know that I wish it was a better word. I think in his first game, when everything's going so fast, there's a fight or flight type moment where you go, I could stick this out and maybe I end up getting sacked. What's the phrase, by the way, that Kingsbury use? Yeah. Was flight or fight? Right. And so he goes, you know what? I'm so athletic. I'm so good at this. I'm going to and I'll be our best offensive weapon. I run for 80 some yards on scrambles. So there's a happy medium there where a scramble can be very good, a very effective way to keep your team on the field on the third night, whenever it's got their back turned, somebody comes for pressure. You make a miss. Got everyone's got their head turned and you go get your first down. So you were you were okay with how much they ran in this game. So yeah, to me that's we argued a lot about that all season. That's closer to the happy medium. Like to me, I want I want the occasional design run just to show it to make keep everybody honest. But I want them to major in those athletic playmaking plays where you turn a negative into an astounding positive, which I think is his specialty. He ran 10 times statistically. It was actually probably more, but a couple of them are ruled sacks, where he would like run out of bounds or whatever. So it was, you know, when you count last week, one of his great escapes, where he was in the grass, ended up being a sack because he ran out of bounds to you. It was my line of scrimmage set of a 15 yard loss. It was two. Yeah. Yeah. Minus four on the side. Yeah. Um, no, it's true. It was also what you would say a great play throw the ball out of bounds and it's zero. And you just go back to live the next play. So that's probably what they'll coach them up on. But, um, I thought, so a few things, number one, the second half to me, when I envision like what I hope this turns into is that. And to get a half like that this quickly is really a good sign I'd say. I think that game two was better than game one. I didn't have a big problem with game one in any way, but I think there was clear growth. And I think the second half was better than the first half. So this is all the way you want it to be the first half, a lot of the procedural stuff. I don't know whose fault all that is calling two time outs on your game opening drive, which by the way, took almost nine game minutes and took like what felt like 20 minutes of real lifetime with the timeouts and everything. It took forever. And it was, that was great. I mean, the defense hadn't had to break a sweat, get in the heat really getting back on the field. Uh, but I think some of that needs to be cleaned up. That's on Daniels. That's on the whole outfit. I'm not saying all the false starts and things are on him, but when you're burning two time outs, when there's clear like motions late and guys are jumping up, I don't know how much of that is the, the snap count or the way you're doing things. I just know that I don't, I don't see it very often, you know, and certainly not with veteran quarterbacks. But that's all supposed to happen. That's all part of the process. That's not it. Really an issue. They cleaned that up. The only part of the first half that I was discouraged by really was the four sacks when I thought maybe one of those should have happened and the fact that they didn't really get the passing game going other than on those RPO screen type things, that all changed in the second half when he threw for a buck 40 and went 12 of 16. And instead of looking to run, he looked to throw and that like epiphany or change, whatever led to it. I hope we see a lot more of it. The Giants have a bad secondary. We had their reporters on all last week saying, hey, Washington should be able to take advantage of this. And you saw it with Noah Brown. I don't know why Terry McLaurin couldn't in that same area of the field. I don't know why nobody else was getting open in the middle of the field, but Earth certainly got free, caught two balls of 20 plus and then Brown with the long on the 34 yarder catch and run. That was a really nice seat of a throw. Good signs all the way around. And I thought overall a winning good performance by Jaden Daniels. Yeah, I mean, it's just it's a super hard balance, right? We're always going to judge after the fact on how effective something was like if a scramble goes for 14 yards on a third and eight, you go, that's good. Nice. We should do that. But could it have been a 40 yard touchdown? We don't know, right? It's always so hard again to work back kind of from the result. Or if he stays behind the line of scrimmage for too long and nobody breaks open and ends up in a sack, could you've just gotten the first down on a third and five? And there's there's so much nuance to this position and everything that you do, there's always something that could have been better or throw that you missed or something like because it's so imperfect and it's so much harder maybe than it's ever been. But to me, I love what I saw, which was more about what looked like comfort. That's what I was trying to allude to. And initially, when I talked about the panic in game one, again, panic's the wrong word, but I don't have another one where it's like one in doubt, I got to go. This was I don't have any doubt. Like I'm not shook. I'm not upset. I'm not worried about all the different hits in the second half. Yes. I got popped a few times in the first half. I thought the first half was a continuation of Tampa. Yes. The second half was not at all. A favorite throw for him. I have three that I wrote down. A lot of people are calling out the Noah Brown play, which was a beautiful throw. But I thought that was actually a lower difficulty throw because he was wide open. I have two, maybe not noticeable throws that I thought were awesome. There was a slantome of corn where I went there's there's a millimeter in any direction. You can't fit it anywhere else and that had to be there and that was perfect. That's one of them. It was a short throw, but it was terrific. Yeah. And he's so accurate. Jaden Daniels, his accuracy is awesome. And there was one to Earth's where Earth's being held. They declined the penalty because it was a catch for a first down. We're again not a ton of space, but he put it on the, I guess would have been on Earth's you know, outs, good, good side shoulder where Earth had to make a hands catch away from his body to keep it away from the defender to expose the whole thing. A check down like a five yard throw to Bates at one point to John Bates. The other one was on an out route to Terry MacLaurin in the first drive of the second half. It just perfectly timed. It was MacLaurin's longest sketch of the day. It was like 12 yards. You remember he kind of broke out and the ball was hitting him as he got to the sideline, got a couple of feet in and they even tried to challenge I think if he had caught the ball or not. The foot track. Yeah. Yeah. Right. But I thought that was a perfect throw as well. So there was a lot to like I thought after halftime, especially, but just generally from him throwing the football in this game. And the other thing is, you know, we got to decide like, how are we grading this, right? I think if you're grading this from the perspective of he's a rookie, which we should, then it's really encouraging. Yeah. Because the other rookies, Caleb Williams, Chicago, Bonyx, what we've seen from him in Denver, that's the list. There are three of them. They have done nothing like what Jayden Daniels has done to this point. So I think if you want to incorporate that context, I think it helps you to view it through an even better lens. It's been solid, you know, if you gave them a C last week, I think you got to give them at least a B this week. And I thought it was an A performance in the second half for me agreed eight hundred six three six one oh six seven. You want to hop in on Jayden Daniels on G and D. Dan Quinn met with the media today. We've got the best of his press conference next on the fan. This episode is brought to you by progressive insurance. Whether you love true crime or comedy, celebrity interviews or news, you call the shots on what's in your podcast queue. And guess what? Now you can call them on your auto insurance too with the name of your price tool from progressive. It works just the way it sounds. 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