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I think cash to tickets the spot for you. We're real, we're transparent, we're having a hell of a good time with it, and we sit there and we're there for the sweat with you guys. We're just trying to figure it out just like you. Follow and listen to Cash the Ticket on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts. So we put up our Scotty's vodka poll of the day earlier, and it really started on Monday when Jason said that this game is a must win. But I'm bringing it up now because I saw our pal Rick Snyder on the fan DC.com also said that this Sunday is a must win, and our audience so far seems to agree 77% say must win in week two. But Snyder came out of the gate hot if you read his last column. He writes, "The Washington Commanders failed their chemistry exam, and its head coach Dan Quinn's fault." Might be awesome. A team with nearly 60% turnover needs a season to find its chemistry, and he goes on and on, but he brings up. Guy's not playing enough in the preseason. He brings up some other points. One thing that I saw online, which I mentioned earlier, if we want to talk about Dan Quinn, he's noted as a defensive coach. I know they have a defensive coordinator, but there is a miked up scene of Baker Mayfield on the sideline talking to his receivers, and he says, I'm paraphrasing, and he curses when he says it, but he says, "If they leave Mike in one-on-one, that's disrespectful. I'm going to him." And then he sees one-on-one coverage with St. Giust on him, and I think he checks out of a running play and just throws the touchdown pass to Mike Evans. That's coaching, right? Well, hold on. I got to say, in defense of him, St. Giust is right there. He didn't make the play on the ball, but he was blanketing him, but maybe you need to dull the first touchdown. He was blank. Oh, this is a different one. Yeah, I'll second one. Maybe you need to dumb member it. Yeah, he should, if my safety over the top is lining up in the red zone, he's probably a top two or three red zone threat in the league in league history. You should have a safety helping out the corner. Yeah, like it one-on-one against Mike Evans from the 10 yard line, the 12 yard line is he's going to win that more often than he's not. It's kind of damned if he's been beating guys. I mean, he's, he's a whole thing. It's not a good look when you lose 37 20, sorry, not a good look for the players. It's not a look good for the coaches to say that he failed them and they weren't prepared. I mean, they put a lot of time in over there, Ashburn, they're there probably 16, 17 hours a day. I would say it's not jump the gun here. It's not a horrible coaching staff. I know Bickel when he's out on Kingsbury already, but let's just not jump the gun. My eyebrows are raised by Kingsbury. It was a bad performance all the way around. It was one game. Let's see how much better and I expect them to look better on Sunday against the Giants. I do not think that's indicative of how the season's necessary. I don't think it's a bad roster on the road against the playoff team, but we graded with a rookie starting a quarterback. We graded Jayden Daniels. Yeah, maybe we should grade first impressions. I tried to tell you this before you predicted the win. That felt like a bit of an idiot. Listen, can I make a hold on? Let me just start the phone number. 806361067. I'd love to hear what people think about Dan Quinn first impressions and just to close out what Rick Snyder wrote. He writes, Washington faces a must win against New York Giants on Sunday. The loser is probably two and 15 this season. The commanders better be ready because they've somehow lost three straight to the Giants and are 71, 108 and five against Gotham. Tom Snyder, put him in a bet book, hundred bucks. We ain't going two and 15. He's either and neither are the judges. He closes. They're bad. They're bad, but they're not going to a 50. No more chemistry exams. Try acing this one. All right. But it's really about Dan Quinn failing the team. 806361067. Do you think Quinn had the commanders ready for week one? I think he had them as ready as this roster could possibly be. He has an under talented roster that got churned through by Adam Peters. Hold on. Facing Evans, Godwin, and a pretty good rookie wide out in McMillan, who by the way, could have had two touchdowns in the game. He had one. All right. Since we're doing the Kuda game, I'm glad you said that. They deserve the win. They were the better team on Sunday. Yes. But we pressured them like 10 times, whatever the number was. I mean, there was four or five of them. We should have had them sacked those to turn into putts, punts. If you have a good day, we had a bad day. Sometimes the game's just snowball out of control. I don't want to make these large proclamations that were just so awful. I, you know, if they could connect on one of the McLaren passes, there's a lot of if fans are butts didn't happen. They deserve the dub, no doubt. But I think you could play that game. And other time it might not have the exact same result. I'm not saying we for sure win, but we had our chances. We had our chances. And I don't want to make it out to like their world beaters either. Because they're not, I don't think they are. But you actually were, you were down on Dan Quinn a little bit in terms of clock management in the first time. That's the part I didn't like. I don't know about the, the locker room stuff and the throwing a rock against the board or whatever Ron was doing. I don't know about that. But I don't, you know, I don't know. I didn't like the time management. I didn't like the, the, the extra point decisions. And I'm a conservative guy. I hated the one that I really hated was the 56 yard attempt. When you know you have a knobs kicker and Cade York, I hated that. Yeah. If you have Justin Tucker, go right ahead attempt the 56 yarder. If you have a guy you just signed 10 days ago, who you know is borderline a punt. I mean, we've been in this situation a million times happens every where you see a team looks terrible one week. And then we go out and we beat the undefeated Steelers when they were 11 or no. Remember that? Remember that? I mean, all the odds are stacked against us. We had no shot at winning that game. And then we pull off the, you know, so you just, you just never know week to week. Jason, what were your first impressions of your fellow Salisbury seagull? Um, I think they had it. Look, they had a game plan. All right. Maybe going into the game, they thought, all right, this is going to be a challenge because of what they tampered can do to you offensively with those receivers. They had a game plan. It's not like they went in there and they were just smoking and joking all week in Ashburn, you know, just having pizza and they're not talking about the game. And they had a game plan. They're just, they weren't as good, right? Were there some questionable decisions in game decisions? Of course. But you could say that for any game, any coaching staff. Um, but I thought they did some good things. They flushed them. They just didn't close. Yeah, they did some good things, but they were beat soundly by a better team. Snyder posits. They didn't have chemistry. And he blames Quinn on not playing them in the preseason. He writes, that's what the three games are for chemistry. However, Quinn is guilty of a coaching mindset that fears blame for August injuries. Staying safe is the wrong stance. I would probably, I probably agree with that. I think that these, these guys should play there, especially if you have a new roster should play them a little bit more. I said, I wouldn't see Jaden play more. It's football. You guys are going to get hurt. But I think it's crazy not to play any of your starters in those three games. Some teams didn't play any of their starters. All right. Let's try to play some of these because we got locks coming up. I think it's crazy. Let's go to, is it Devon Devon and Rockville? What's up? Dave on Hey, what's up, buddy? Devon. Devon. I feel the same way, man. It's week one man. The fan base here just like there is no middle ground. It's like either over the top or super low light. Let's just check this all right. The game of the score is don't tell the whole story when you just look at this at the score. The two touchdowns that Mike Evans scored on Benjamin St. Juice, both of them coverages, man. Step on big. I mean, that's step on. His brother Deith could have been on him. Charles Gardner could have been on him. He was going to catch it. That was a great pass. The only other one was the manual force where he blatantly passed in the first. Chris Godwin, that's a good player. You know what I'm saying? Like, what do people expect if you don't play in a preseason? That's the first time all 11 starters on defense was out there. You're going to have communication problems. And Dan Quinn said it on Monday that they had to put something on field so they can build from it. If we were to hit the ground running and scored 42 points and held bucking this to seven points. The first game, I would have been like, oh, yeah, that's not that that's indicative and indicative of us going to be sorry because we're putting everything into winning on week one. It's a process. Look at the jets in the San Francisco. And I'm going to take it off the air, guys. The death in San Francisco. Yes, the San Francisco 49ers was a defending in the Super Bowl last year, right? But the Tampa Bay Buccaneers went to the second round and knocked the Eagles out last year. So the jet got scored on and that defense, we could all agree that the defense is better than Washington. That defense got eight consecutive scoring drive. Sounds similar to Tampa Bay scoring. Thank you, David. Thank you, David. Yeah, that's a good one. I just moved the ball on a really good defense in the jets. The difference I'd say is with the jets, you feel like they'll get it right and they face a really good team on the road with the commanders. You're not sure because they were dead last last year and they didn't change much personnel really, the linebackers. And I guess actually, they changed personnel just not premier personnel because you've got new defensive ends. I think sometimes games just snowball away from you and it started the very first play. I mean, the very first play was just offensively was just a disaster, the backwards pass. Yeah, it was just a disaster. You know, it's like second and a hundred might have just been nerves. Yeah, whatever it was. And it just, and then I just, I can't get over the fact that we had him dead to rights. It should have had him sacked three or four more times. It's very frustrating. So frustrating. That happening throughout the game. To the drive coach. The way we were on third down was so bad. Well, the Vikings took advantage of that this past week in Daniel Jones, they were getting to him. So go to Sean in DC. Sean, what's up? Hey, good morning, guys. Thank you for taking my call. Yeah, sure. We actually won that game. I'm going to tell you how we won that game. Just turn him a coin with a quartet bomb. I'm with you. If Luke McCaffrey would have threw the bomb in another touchdown, right? And then the sorry kicker, if he would have made both of those field goals, and win with a win over one point. I do that. You win. Of course. You win. It's a fun new guy, right? Imagine if we sacked them a few times and we have to get the right. Strip sack fumble return for Dutch, though. So that game couldn't even fill us. It's the team preparation. Oh, Trevor Cohen, he needs to get open more. I had a friend that was at the game. Scaw's hilarious. He's no separation from the wire receivers at all. Well, I don't think that's true when they look at it. I don't think that's true when they look at it. There were some guys that were that your friend worked for PFF. What's going on here? He kept the ball. He ran the ball 16 times because he swore no separation. Due to mail, the receivers can't get open. We need receivers. All right. Oh, definitely need receivers. Thank you, Sean. Thank you. I'll say one of the things right points out again. And we don't know is that he was great. He's pointed out that basically, Jayden didn't get to the third receiver in progressions. I don't know whether it's true or not. He was under assault. Nobody just gave it a quick look and takes off and it works well for him. He got rid of the ball in 2.2 seconds. You saw the pressure that was coming. You want him to stand there and take a sack? I never thought. Oh, you should stand. There were a throw as he could have made. I'm sure, but he would have to make those throws, I think, on the run. And maybe he's not as comfortable with that. But like, I can't just have him stand there and take sacks. Oh, I don't like it. But sometimes you got to stand in the pocket, deliver that throw. Sometimes he hit like one of the touchdown passes. I believe Baker just basically a five step crop and he sees somebody coming on him on the left, but he plants feet and he delivers as he matures and as he progresses, he's going to work the, oh, I'm scrambling, but oh, I see Terry streaking down the field or I see Deami. Yeah. Hey, Mike Valenti here, host a cash to take it alongside my partner, Jim Costa. It's really simple. Are you tired of podcasts claiming there are a bunch of pro betters when they live in their mommy's basement? Are you tired of podcasts that claim they hit 80% of the games when really they just lose like most of us think cash to tickets, the spot for you. We're real. We're transparent. We're having a hell of a good time with it. And we sit there and we're there for the sweat with you guys. We're just trying to figure it out just like you. Follow and listen to Cash the Ticket on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts. Example, Luke McCaffrey cutting across the middle and throw the ball to him while he's on the run. Let's go to Michael. I know we got locks coming up. Let's go Michael in Manassas. Michael, what's up? All right. What's up? Your phone's terrible. Yeah, quickly. Get it off Bluetooth. Enjoy. I want to play this game on Dibito audio. Tibito is a good player. Help me with the pronunciation of this thing. Tibito. So, Tim, not Tim. Yeah, Tibito. The age is silent. Okay, Tibito. Fifth overall pick in the 22 draft out of University of Oregon. He's a Southern California guy. They were, Oregon recruits really well down in LA area. Probably they pay a lot, frankly. Tibito is supposed to be a beast. The size speed, all the measurables are there, 65 to 60. He has not lived up to his draft status, I would say. But he sure has against Washington. He also had a much better second season last year than he did his first year rookie year. They didn't get much going in the first game against Sam freaking Darnold. But still, Tibito decided to say this about Washington. I would say Washington in particular, you know, they're, I mean, they're not really rival, but they're a what you call in conference. In conference. In our same division, there we go. They're in our division. So, it's always a great game. You know, we've seen twice in years. So, I'm excited. Jay Daniels is a great quarterback. He's from Cali, you know, grew up knowing him, grew up with him. So, I understand, you know, he's a great player and I'm excited to go against him. So, I think when you read that, and I'm sure on Instagram, it's a headline, like came on Tibito says Washington's not a rival. What do you actually, he's like, man, they're not a rival. It's a division game. I don't think he really if you if you look at it, since he's gotten into the league, have they been? No. Okay. So, I think when you this the thing, we automatically assume our biggest rival is the Cowboys. When I got to Philly, I realized their biggest rival were the Giants. But then when I went to the Giants, I realized that the whole damn division all have a little dislike for each other. You know what I mean? Everybody hated the Cowboys, but the Eagles Giants games were the most physical I've seen in a long time. Sure. We hated the Cowboys, but when we played the Eagles, that was physical as hell. And when we played the Giants, it was always super super close. So, but it's the definition of rival. You know what I mean? Like, is it something that fans make up or is it something that's really done on the field? Because I'm gonna tell you, I saw no difference. And I normally saw elevation of physicality when we played the Giants, even the Cardinals were killing him, it was still tough. But everyone's assumed it's just the Cowboys all the time. Well, so much of it is just playing a team a second time. There's an inherent, increased knowledge base. And then inherently, that's going to create like when you know somebody and you know, man, that what was the play Thursday night, right? In the opener last week. One of the dudes was an Isaiah likely somebody on the Ravens was pissed about a hit he took. I think it was likely. Remember, he went off post game. Yeah. Yeah. And he's like, oh, yeah, 55. When I see you again, something like that, right? Yeah, odds are they're not going to see each other again. They would have to be in the playoffs, right? Whereas in the division game, when that happens, you know, you get to see him again. Yeah. You know, like all those little things add up and the smallest thing can make something into a rival. Listen, he said he grew up with Jane grew up knowing it. Right. That could be a rival. You know, what if I played against somebody in high school? Now he's on a team in my division. That makes me want to be up for that team even more because you know, when we go back home, we got to bring about it. You know what I'm saying? Every little thing could make it. But ultimately, when you look at the fact of teams that can knock another team out of the playoffs and they knocked you out of the playoffs and the championship and all that type of thing, those rivals grow. And then it comes down to fans, just liking people because of whatever, you know what I'm saying? So I think they are still rivals. I wouldn't say this number one, but he's coming to the league and has had the upper hand all those times. So he's like, I did not arrive. But this is the thing again about a young guy. He's in his twenties. He has not looked at the history to know that. Yes, it's a damn rival. Right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know, the Giants and the and back when there was red skids and all they had some games where it mattered to where you're going to go on in the playoffs, be where you're going to be positioned and going into the playoffs. You know, a team wears a Super Bowl out of your division. You want to be you want to top them next time who how would you rank at this point? Let's go around the room on this because I'm curious. I feel like everybody might have a different take. How would you rank for Washington? And let's be honest, some of it even just sounds different with the new name, but like commander's biggest rivals. Giants, Cowboys, Eagles, you know, I go Eagles first. I was kind of thinking the same. I go Eagles first because the fans of the Eagles take over. They make it worse because, you know, the fans here, they know how they are. And then did I go Giants? Did I go Cowboys? Cowboys last? Yes. Because think about this. We automatically assume, Mr. Cowboys, because you always think back in the day, Cobb wasn't in this. That's how it came from. Right. But what team seems to be able to have your number more often? The Giants. So I throw the Giants there because we all sit here up until this Thursday this week. What we've been saying all week, we're scared to talk a lot because the Giants always have our numbers. You were concerned about the Giants and you're the Cowboys. The Giants can be horrible and you're still worried about them. The Cowboys have had better talent over the last five, six, seven, eight years. They've had better talent. The Giants hadn't always had the better talent, but look at their record. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like this team goes on and wins five games, six games, they beat you two times. Okay. That stuff, that makes it a little bit better because we are normally more equally matched with them and they seem to get the best. The team that have better talent, we seem to have a split with them a lot of times. Yeah, it's interesting. You make a hell of a point. Danny says, I hate them all. Danny, I am with you, dog. I hate them all too. Is that Danny Frank? No, this is a Danny on the line. I don't know if it's Danny Frank or not. Well, if it is, I know he does. Where do I land here? I'm with you. I think the Eagles rivalry has become the biggest and I think a lot of it is that Washington usually plays the Eagles really tough. Play them tough and look at the proximity. It's much closer than it is all the way it down. And dude, some of it might be and you can probably figure out who this player is, but there's a player on Washington now that played for Philly for a long time and he was asked about making his home debut this weekend. He's like, yeah, you know, I've played in the stadium a long time, but it would be nice to have the home fans cheer him for me. And I didn't want to put him in a rough spot and say this out loud. I may have whispered it later, but I said, dude, play for the Eagles. You probably had the home crowd. I think, yes, I think the way Philly has taken over FedEx Northwest. I guess they never took over Northwest. We'll see. But the way they've taken over home games and the land over, I think has added fuel to that. Yeah. And dude, they've been doing that now consistently long enough. Rivalries are not only grown on the field, it's grown off the field as well. And when you deal with a lot of stuff that we hear the fans talking about when the Eagles come down here, you know, that makes that rivalry grow because the fan base get a little bit more antagonized and elevated emotions get more elevated when those teams come in. Hell, the Steelers come through here too. They take over the stadium. We don't have the same mindset and the stories and rumors coming back from those games, but when it's the Eagles, it's a different thing. Let's go. Now, obviously, I'm fully aware that historically it's been Dallas. I'm fully aware of that. It just feels a little different now. To your point, it was Cowboys and Redskins. You know what I mean? Redskins Cowboys, it was Thanksgiving, it was Pat Summerall, it was John Madden. Just, I don't know, that one feels a little different. Landini, give me your NFC East rivalry rankings. I would go Cowboys number one, Eagles to Giants three. Okay, why do the Cowboys still get it? Just the history? Yeah, and they're the biggest team. It seems like there's tons of Cowboys fans living in the area still. I think that if you're talking to fans, the team that they would care most about beating would be the Cowboys. Maybe we let fans chime in on this or how does everybody feel about the phones right here? I'm cool with that. NFC East rivalry rankings 806361067, 806361067. Historically, it has absolutely been the Cowboys. I wonder if we're still there or if things have kind of emerged in a new life. It's 2024. The Washington or Dallas hasn't won a Super Bowl since the mid 90s. The Cowboys thing though, did it become a rivalry more because of the play on the field? Did it come around because of the fight zone that the Cowboys owner supposedly had owned or whatever had to sell it back to him or figure out something. The whole story of that became something more than anything else than the actual play. And then over the years, it became a great thing because you know, TV's played up the Cowboys versus the Indians, that all types of stuff. Sure. And the teams were really good for a long time. But today, I think I see a lot of craziness when that green rolls in here too. Bro, I think it might be the Eagles. So I'm going to put a tweet out now that everybody can vote on. And I'm trying to be fair. I said, who's the commander's biggest rival now? I gave Cowboys, Eagles, Giants or other. Does that seem fair? Yeah, I can't list every damn team. All right, I'm posting it so people can vote. We'll open the phone lines 800-636-1067, 800-636-1067. Jeffrey, give me your, give me your NFC East rivalry rankings. It will always be the Cowboys number one in my eyes. Like, I can't even I hate playing with them on Madden. Like, I just have a bad taste for the Cowboys. Then it will have to be the Eagles and then the Giants. And the reason why I rank it like that is because Cowboys, historically, I just grew up hating that team to the Eagles have been a better, the best team in the NFC East. And we will get, we will beat them one time. You know, they'll split with us. The Giants, they're a trash team that, you know, they beat teams that they're not supposed to beat. And unfortunately, that is us. So I just count, like, I don't really, yeah, so man, we got to beat the Giants. But it's always, for the past couple of years, it's been Dallas and Philly competing for the top spot and always had more pride beating them than worrying about the Giants. So Cowboys, Eagles, Giants. Cowboys, Eagles, Giants, I do, I do have the, I agree with you, the Giants are last. Like, it never has seemed as vitriolic as Cowboys or Eagles games, but nothing to me matches the intensity, anger, like level of, oh my God, a fight could happen at any second as Eagles games. And maybe that's about it. That's all in the field. All for you. This is the most stabby city in America. We're going to take your calls next. Who? This is the commanders. We're talking about the 2024 Washington commanders. Hey, who are the commanders? Who is their biggest rival? Nobody go anywhere from them on. Cliff Kingsbury met with reporters, discussed Jaden Daniels debut. That's a debut that netted him the rookie of the week award in the national football. He's the first of 17 rookie of the week award winners for week one with the 88 rushing yards and the two rushing touchdowns. But we hadn't yet gotten into Kingsbury on the number of rushing attempts. I want to do that here. He was talking on cut seven, Daris, about Jaden Daniels running the ball 16 times. This was Kingsbury with reporters today. There's a couple of calls, you know, where we thought we had premier looks that ended up hitting inside that you'd like to have back, you know, if he walks in, then it looks really good. But a lot of those he did a great job. I'm not sure how many actually got contacted and taken to the ground on, but he does a great job finding the saw spot finding out of bounds. But we understand like he has to take care of himself and we want him to continue to grow and you can't do that if you're banged up and on the sideline. So my translation there from Kingsbury is 16 attempts is not too many. That wasn't the problem. The problem is, are you taking hits? Are you in harm's way? And his point is he mostly wasn't. He did a good job avoiding contact or getting to the sideline. He said there were a couple he wants back, which include the goal one runs at the end, I think, when he got walloped a couple times, maybe one of those powers. If I had to guess where they thought they had looks defensively, where they were going to catch him with that draw was basically like direct snap. They pull a guard. They get him going with power, a draw look, and they played it really well. And they stuffed him at the line of scrimmage. He probably thought he'd fly through there into space and be able to fall forward. They found some sort of design flaw. They'd be able to get something big. But you and I went back through the 16 runs before the show today. One of them is considered a run on that pass on the first play of the game for minus 15 yards because it was backwards. It was a fumble. So it's a rush attempt. Another was the kneel down before the half. So really now we're down to 14 runs of which seven were true scrambles and seven in quotes were designs when you count the read option that he could have kept or could have handed off, which I don't know if that makes you feel a lot better, but still 14 instead of 16 is a truer way to talk about it. And then there were only seven designed runs, so to speak. But he did not seem regretful of how many runs there were. I didn't think. I didn't either. It's the it's one of those things where I think of a basketball coach, right? Like you got a really good player, a guy that can really score. And if he makes the shot, even if it's a difficult one for everybody else, you go like, we got to live with that. Like he's got to shoot it versus if he misses it, yeah, when he better shots than that. Like, it's an after the fact coaching point. I'm not criticizing him. I'm just saying this is human nature, right? Where it's a good shot. If it goes in, it's a bad shot. If it does, you agree with my logic, which I think is kind of what you were just alluding to, which I've been saying since he drafted him, which is you drafted Jaden Daniels. Don't be surprised when he shows up. Jaden Daniels is coming to DC. That's a good thing, by the way. Not a bad thing, but he's going to run. If you don't want this guy to run, if someone's going, man, he ran a lot, you shouldn't have drafted him. If you're bothered by that, he should run. It's what he does brilliantly. It's what he does amazingly well. It is his elite trait. If you're a hitter in Major League Baseball, and the thing you do really, really well is hit home runs and you're trying to bunt all the time, that's a poor use of your skills. For me, in radio or you in radio or stand up comedy, if you go away from that, your best bullet on the stage is probably impressions in Barkley. If you never use those, that would be silly. You don't go do a set or bring Danny Ruya yet and tell him, hey, don't do any impressions tonight. Why have him? That's happened before, by the way. But yeah, seriously, yeah, it's a thing I'll tell you about during the break. But the point is obvious. I mean, to me, the player that's here, you're trying to work the faders. Fader number one is making plays when nothing is there. Fader number two is just straight up runs. Fader number three is the passing game intermediate, short passing game. You're trying to work all these faders to get the biggest total number to try to get the best balance the best everything. So fader number one for week number one was when all hell breaks loose run, design runs also. So it's like a third of the offense, basically, was Jay Daniels running in terms of number of plays around and executed. And I think we'd all probably agree that that maybe a bit much is probably not sustainable, just in terms of number of hits and impacts. And you know, you need something else, you can't just ask, ask the rookie quarterback in this first month of football to be the hero on every single play every time. But that's the struggle. That's the balance we're trying to find, right? And that's why there's no one core singular set of, it's not a recipe, right? If it was, you needed to follow it, you'd go, this guy's not following the recipe, fire him. There's no tried and true way to do this. The best way to develop a passer with it for a kid that's got this unbelievable skill set also, right? I mean, most of the time, if you throw the ball at Jay Daniels, you are a first round traffic. And you know, we'll see what happens. You know, you're patting the ball in the pocket and you're doing this hitch and this read and this thing and this, whatever. Well, you had in the fact that this guy ran for 1000 yards and double digit touchdowns and could do something that only a handful of people ever to play the game can do. That's a tough balance to figure out what's best. And you know, I've disagreed about that, and I think that's reasonable. But for, hey, Mike Valenti here hosts the cash to take it alongside my partner, Jim Costa. It's really simple. Are you tired of podcasts claiming there are a bunch of pro bettors when they live in their mommy's basement? Are you tired of podcasts that claim they had 80% of the games when really they just lose like most of us think cash to tickets the spot for you. We're real. We're transparent. We're having a hell of a good time with it. And we sit there and we're there for the sweat with you guys. We're just trying to figure it out just like you. Follow and listen to Cash the Ticket on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts. That there's a process part of this that I feel like this coaching staff is sort of glossing over like Dan Quins. Again, as Helmut falls off sometimes, and yeah, we'll teach him a slide. We've got a national out there. They don't have the right level of concern for me. Maybe that's my issue because I live through what we all live through here as fans of teams in this town. But to me, there needs to be a little bit more process concern. You might get hurt in the pocket and make it hurt somewhere else. But there needs to be more of a we're going to do the best practice, not just sort of joke about it and say, oh, shucks, he's a dog. I can't have that. My dad. Way. Welcome back to a football Friday as we get ready for the commanders to host the New York Giants at Northwest Stadium, one PM kickoff Northwest Stadium home game for Washington. New name is stadium. We're hearing about the ticket sales is still not a sellout. Oh, you have ever saw as of yesterday sold out. I don't know how many giants fans are going to be there. There's usually a pretty good representation of enemy fan base at least in recent years. Hopefully the commanders fans can reverse that trend, but that goes hand in hand with winning games. So we wanted to do this game must win for both teams. Really, Daniel Jones coming off an awful game where he had two interceptions through a pick six. All the off season scrutiny. If you watched hard knocks, it looked like the organization would have preferred to have moved on from Daniel Jones. They weren't able to do so. They were, they were definitely sniffing around to try to move up, especially with the Patriots to try to draft either Jaden Daniels or Drake May, whoever they could draft at that point. Instead, they drafted Malik neighbors and tried to improve the offensive line, but at least in week one, they looked awful. I think the commanders do win this game. They've had problems with Daniel Jones has passed, but you know, cakes brought up these numbers yesterday. Daniel Jones has been a shell of what he was a couple seasons ago when they gave him the contract ever since he got that contract. He's had far more interceptions and touchdowns. He's had more pick sixes than touchdown passes. I was trying to see if he runs as much as he used to. He's he used to have great success in week running. I don't think he's run as much as he used to. Okay, he's coming off a major injury. So that certainly is a factor there and cakes, you're big into revenge games. I am. I do love. Now usually you're revenge games. Your angle is the guy who left the team and then he's with the new team facing his old team. Sure. This isn't that case. It's your most standard revenge game scenario. This may be a Terry McClellan revenge game. Okay. Why? All right. Last year, he faced Deonté Banks, a corner for the New York Giants. This is written about in the Washington Post today. Yeah. Deonté Banks was drafted 24th overall in the 2023 draft. He thought he should have been selected by his home team. He'll slide the commanders. Right. Instead, they drafted manual Forbes. Oh, so he was playing with the chip when he faced the commanders last year and he faced Terry McClellan. And in the game against Terry McClellan, after winning the second one, he said, now I'm 2 and 0 against you bum ass boys. F the commanders. Then he took a shot at Terry McClellan, who was held to five catches for 43 yards in the week 11 loss. He goes, Banks said, I'm just trying to figure out, did number 17 play today? That's all I want to know that he's just asking for it. He's just he's just lighting more of a fire underneath Terry McClellan. I don't really believe in bulletin board material, but I think Terry McClellan for two reasons should have a big game. Number one, we talked about it. They didn't get involved last week. Number two, he's going to want to stick it to Deonté Banks and the Giants. So I think I'll have a big game. I don't know that it's going to be some super high scoring affair, but I'm going to take the commanders 20 to 17. My response to Deonté Banks personally would be, you just let Sam Darnell carve you up and he completed 79% of his passes against you. That's Sam Darnell's. So I would think that there's going to be plenty of opportunities for Jaden Daniels to find success in the passing game, bring the rushes down, bump up the passing numbers in this game. I mean, if Sam Darnell dominates you, then then they were really going to dominate you throughout the season. They were really betting that was the home opener for the Giants. Now they're going on the road. Jones has been awful. We've already gone through his numbers. Does he come back and stick it to Washington again for the sixth time because he's five one and one as a starter against Washington in his career? I don't think so. You know, remember, in those games, Saquan Barkley was a factor too. They don't have a Saquan Barkley. They got Devin Singletary. He's okay, but they don't pose a threat that Tampa posed because Tampa had really good dual back field with Rashad White and Bucky Irving, two legit receivers, a good third receiver. Baker was on fire. I just don't see the Giants doing that. Now, it ain't going to be a blowout. The commanders are going to make it interesting because their defense is so susceptible to big plays, especially through the air. Does neighbors make a big player too? Probably. I would think he probably does. Conditions are ripe for him to have a good game. But they don't have the overall depth in the passing game. And Jones is going to struggle. Right. I think they're going to get to Jones a bit. The thing that I worry about is the defensive line for the Giants after they played so poorly last week. They only got to Sam Darnell once. One time. So I think, but Daniels can get away. I mean, JD can get away and scoot and go for 15-20 yards, whatever. But I don't think it's going to be an ugly, a pretty game. I think it'll be an ugly game. I'll take the commanders 20 to 13. I think Daniel Jones's luck finally comes to an end. His magic carpet ride against solely the commanders, the Washington football team, whatever they've been called when he said success against them. I think that ends this weekend. He doesn't have the wheels like he's had in the past. He doesn't have the escape ability. I think he's going to get sacked multiple times in this game. You've sacked five times against the Vikings. I mean, he's, he's so due for like a strip sack fumble. Maybe they get your turn for a touchdown. I think the commanders are a sneaky defense to add if you're, if you need one for your week two fantasy matchup. I think they could do some work against Daniel Jones. I think they're going to have a hard time containing Jaden Daniels. I think his passing numbers go up. I think his rushing numbers dip, but not by a lot. Like he probably has 65 to 70 rushing yards in this matchup. Yeah, I can see that. Hopefully one long rushing touchdown. I like the commanders at home at Northwest stadium. Let's go 27 17. I think that's an over too. Does anybody behind the glass feel like the Giants will win this game? Matt Valdez usually likes to zag when everyone zigs does. I do think the Emmanuel Forbes injury is addition by subtraction. Right. So I do feel like the secondary has a chance to play better. But I mean, history is on the giant side. Daniel Jones and this team, their eyes just get wide when they see the commanders on the stat is true. I can't go against history until you prove it otherwise. Plus, I feel like the front is going to have a lot, but Giants front four is going to have a lot better game than week one, especially against kind of a Nubs offensive line that we saw in Tampa. So I think it's going to be an ugly game. And I think the Giants squeak one out and under under was a 41 and a half. I'm think I'm thinking a 23 20 type game that just sneaks the over just sneaks into the over. But I think I think it's an ugly punt fest kind of game. Okay. Defense defense lets the team down Daniel Jones game winning field goal drive. Matt, real quick, I put up our Scotties vodka poll of the day. Scotties vodka Maryland made super smooth love throughout the DMV. And it's a simple who wins on Sunday. What's your early lean to the fans believe Washington wins 68% commanders. So far, 61% commanders can vote at junks radio. Let's go to drabby. By the way, we keep standings on this throughout the year. Only Jason and I hit in week one. So we're off to the one and O start. Valdez can make a move on us though. If the Giants get the dub, it's so it's so early. Of course. Yes, it is early. I stuck my neck out last week. I'm not doing that again. I just live and learn. I can't believe Cakes just said, if you're looking for a fantasy defense out there, commanders are a sneaky play. Did he watch the game last Sunday? You watch Baker, a mid Baker Mayfield look like Baker midfield. John L way out there. You just wait. Just wait till the end of this game when the commander's defense is racked up like 20 points in most standard fantasy leagues and just wait. Are they gonna have 11 new players out there? They're not there or not. But Daniel Jones is so bad. He made that defense look good. I think the question with Daniel Jones is Daniel Jones broken or is Daniel Jones lacking confidence? I think it's the latter right now. And I think this could be a get right game for him. I'm not worried about them being on the road. We know that stadium is going to be 50% Giants fans. And I think Jayden will play much better this week. I'm going 31, 27 Giants. Oh, that's a shoot. There's going to be a lot of. I watch those two offenses last week. I watch the defenses. Daniel Jones puts up 31. You might say goodbye to Joe. Commander's defense was supposed to be violent. He was bringing the violence. Yeah. That was violent as a unicorn. Mildlands. All right. Mike Moore, like a care bear. I mean, I'm a little worried about Malik neighbors just torching the commander's secondary. But now I got the commander's 27 to 20. We got to get Austin Eckler the ball a little bit more. And then don't be surprised if Ben Sanat has a sneaky good game. I mean, he didn't get any targets in the week one game against the bucket. Of course, in it. Yes, and not sell it. And yeah, but really, Malik is last name snob and snob. He definitely got called snob as a kid. Snottie before he got a head tall. He probably did until he got muscles and pummeling everybody. But yeah, I'm looking to see the young guys out there. Ben Luke McCaffrey. Obviously, we got to get Terry McLaure in the ball early on in the game, but 27 20 over hits should be close right down the stretch. Do I want to bet on Terry McLaure number of catches this weekend? Do I want to anybody want to throw out a number? I'll throw out a way to high number. Five and a half. Oh, I'll take over. Five and I was going to throw out like six and a half or seven and put it in the book. Yes. Let's go. Ready to know. I'm ready to lose more money. If I bet I could have got you over. I don't think I don't think you're going to have seven. I know. I should have said six. You showed up. Yeah. You went a little too low. I think a little low. You know what's going to happen? You'll have like three and I'll just ship you two dollars. Hey, what do you what do you think Jane's line's going to be? Oh, that's a good one. I think Jane Daniels will likely be. I'm going to say 16 for 28 for 178 yards. Eight rushes. 52 yards. No touchdowns. Pick is 28. You could have a pick. I'm going to go is 28 too high. I don't know if you'll throw 28 times. I'll go Jaden 19 for 28. Oh, so you do have 28 for 201 and a touchdown pass. Oh, yeah, I forgot. He will throw a touchdown. And I think he'll have nine runs for 70 yards and a touchdown run. All right. If he if he counts for two touchdowns, I'll kick some cash. Yes, you do, sir. You certainly do. But I'm not. I think it's going to be a lower score. I disagree with drab. I think it's going to be a lower scoring ugly game. All right. I think the Giants defense will play better. I have Jaden for he's going to go 17 of 27 through the air. 255 passing yards. Wow. Not one two tuddies. 65 rush yards on top of that cherry on top. Oh, so he's going to be player of the week. Well, he was. He was the rookie of the week. Well, I wasn't too hard to do. I'll play the week. If that happens. All right. Yeah. 255. That's pretty high. That's especially with 17 completion. I mean, a lot of yack. Hey, go deep there. He's throwing. He's ripping him down field for this. The company is saying F U J P in your area. Exactly. J P's obsessed with the fact that Jaden's not throwing more than nine or 10 yard passes. That may change this weekend. I will say Echler is going to have five catches for 71 yards and that helps my numbers. Daniel Jones stat line week one against the Minnesota Vikings at home in the Meadowlands, 22 of 42 for a buck 86 to picks. His quarterback rating was 44.3. He also ran the ball six times for 15 yards long of seven yards felt bad. Hit it, landfill. Man, we heard the booze weren't raining there. We're like, okay, now we're good on our side. But when they got really loud to where it was as loud as it would be on the third down should be on when they're on defense, it was that was it was kind of bad. We kind of thought you feel a little bit bad form as we're still just completely just taking away everything that he wants to do. So, hey, look, it's good to be on the other side of it. And it's our job to not be on that side of it, you know, when we're not doing our job. So we're always going to preach to do our jobs. We don't get in that situation. So that is Jonathan Grenard. He plays defense for the Vikings. It's not good when the defensive players kind of feel bad for the opposing quarterback. He's kind of never felt that way in any game. You're losing, you're losing. Not only did Danny Dimes throw two picks, one of them was a pick six. Yeah. And he was getting booed throughout that game. We all watched hard. It might have been booing past them too, booing straight to the front office. Well, dude, I don't know if you saw this, but Rosenberg, who comes on with us every week, his show is on ESPN New York up there in the afternoons. And it's Michael K, who's the famous Yankees announcer, Don LaGuardia and Rosenberg. LaGuardia went off yesterday because Dexter Lawrence in the post-game interview was asked about the crowd booing. And inevitably, what's a player supposed to say, oh man, we don't care, we don't listen to that, right? Like, what's he supposed to say to that? And then it kind of looks bad on him. And it's this awkward back and forth. But the boos were so bad up there. And we saw hard knocks. They clearly wanted another quarterback. They weren't able to get one of the ones I wanted to get one. Do you think Danny Dimes can recover? I don't know. I mean, I think if I think he could recover from the fans blowing, but if the players in the locker room has lost confidence, that's going to be hard. You know what I mean? Because once the players don't have confidence in you, and if anybody notices that, it's basically over. So if the players are still saying he's all guy and we're with him and blah blah blah, he can get past it. Once anybody, especially any leader in that locker room, is done with him, he cannot overcome that. Sure. I don't know how they feel about him in that locker room, frankly. I think he'd be hard pressed to be really excited. Players don't care as long as you can help them. If you can't help them, players will let you, they'll let you know and they'll give up on you. Do you know that apparently some fans stuck around, so by the time players are leaving the home stadium, it's usually an hour, maybe 90 minutes. Now some guys get out of there right away, but generally, you know, it takes a little while to get off the field. Let's say specifically for quarterbacks. Quarterbacks generally takes a little while to get off the field. Then the quarterback has to do media. They do a podium session where they get asked lots of questions. Not all of them. Quarterbacks. Quarterbacks do that. Then you've got media, then they're back at their locker, you got a shower change. Say it's usually about an hour, maybe a little more, maybe a little less before they're getting out of there, walking to the parking lot. These fans stuck around in the parking lot just to boo him walking to his car. Damn. Right? You know, it's at that point, he should have been like, look, can somebody go get my car? That's my go scoopy car. I mean, and we say all this, Jones last year was bad. I don't think there's any surprises there. But yet, he continues to just be really good against Washington. Yeah. And I just, I don't know, some teams, some guys just have people's number. But he, he played how many times against Washington? Seven games, five and one. So it's been, it was under that double regime. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe this would have changed up the way, because if you know he likes to run, he's not very effective passing a lot of times against most teams. If he likes to run, he normally have a big run against us. Don't let him run. What's crazy is the year he got paid off of, and he got paid. Make no mistake about that. Do you know what his passing stats were? No, already. Bro, he only threw for 3,200 yards and 16 starts, 200 a game. Yep. And he had 15 touchdowns. Now, granted, it was 15 against five picks. But that is just three to one. That's what they're looking at. And that is so pedestrian. Yeah, it is. To then get paid 42 mil. But see, somebody, some stats geek basically told him it's three to one touchdowns and interceptions. So let's think about it. What if he gets 30 touchdowns? It's only 10th and subs. I mean, you're hoping that's what I'm saying. That's why I do it. That's why the numbers don't always matter. Let's ask the boys in the aquarium. Daniel Jones appears broken. Do you think he could get put back together in time for Sunday's game, Jeffrey, with his history against us? Yes. It can happen. Do I want it to happen? No, of course, I wish good health on everyone and everything. But as far as his game, I want him to still be terrible. I want him to look like last week. I don't want him to come in here and put belt how beehinds like he's been like he has been doing for the past couple of years. Yeah, like Jay, like you were talking about DeVito last last year. They lost to him. Didn't I know you didn't get many credit and stuff. And this guy just brought us up on the tech on a chat. Yo, I see it. And on the chat. Listen, you are not going to hear me boast about how they should whoop up on the Giants because they should have last year. And they didn't. And I do think the Giants have a really good D line. That might be the only thing you point to that's really good. I don't think Daniel Jones is good. I do think Malik Neighbors is good. I do think Washington has problems in their secondary. You know, Devin Singletary last week, they chase Sequin out of town to sign Motor Singletary goes 10 carries for 37 yards. Hey, they rebuilt their own line. I mean, this is, this is, I'm not going to be well if they go and go to Philly. Um, this is what they want. This is what Joe Shane wanted to build. Yeah, this is like at some point, this is what you wanted, bro. And remember that like string of reports early, maybe like towards the end of training camp like, Oh, the seat's not hot for Dave Ball and Joe Shane. Good luck, dude. Good luck. Then again, Landoni, do you think, Landoni, do you think Daniel Jones can turn it around against the commanders? Um, he seems to always play well against the commanders. So I guess there's a possibility there. Uh, even though he is, uh, pretty much terrible, I think I, I saw the stat that he's thrown more pick sixes than touchdown since he signed that big contract. Yeesh. Yeah. I mean, he definitely has this season. Uh huh. Pick sixes. That's, uh, that's horrific. That is bad. He's really bad. He's always basically been bad, except he gets to play the commanders twice here. So he can, you know, trick people into thinking that he's competent. I had two games like that. Look at that. I can play. All right. Here's what we're going to do. Um, we're going to give away Marley brothers tickets next. Neil Greenberg joins us at noon. We should hear from Dan Quinn at 12 30 just getting warmed up. It is the first day of the NFL week in Ashburn. The commanders are getting ready for the Giants were three days away. I was told by the way that they have now sold out. Yes. I've not seen an official announcement, either that's coming or, um, they won't be making one. Uh, maybe I've already missed it, but I was told from somebody with the team that they are in fact sold out. Yeah. So we discussed that yesterday that last year at this point, they had been sold out for several days. There was a big push, a big announcement, a big look, what's going on. Not only this game, the home opener, cause last year was week one, but beyond that, you know, weeks out in advance, they were letting people know, Hey, this is working. This is happening. You're part of something we're building. We haven't had that same energy, same excitement, but to their credit, they've sold out week one. So that's a good thing. Last year was the Cardinals who didn't travel. So you know, it was all commanders fans this year. It's the Giants. They've got fans in the area and we'll come down 95. So I will be curious to see the breakdown of the fans in the stands, but we can get into that more detail after Sunday when we get to see some of the optics at the stadium. But if one of the two sides of the ball bounces back, who are you more confident in doing so after the clunker for the offense and the dud for the defense? We'll open up the MGM national Harbor listener lines on this at 800-636-1067 now. This is an easy one for me. The defense, not because the defense is good and I don't expect it to be good, but because the Giants are that bad. The Giants offense is a worse version of Washington's offense. They don't have anything. They don't have the ability to do anything. They are low ceiling, even lower floor. They are turnover prone. They can't run it. They can't throw it. There's very little they're capable of doing. They're going to make a lot of teams look like the 85 bears. Minnesota, I expect to give up a bleep ton of points this year. I don't think that defense will be particularly good. They looked in the 2000 Ravens called and then what their stat line back. So the defense this week has an opportunity just by being in uniform to have themselves a pretty decent day. I definitely agree that it's a great matchup for the defense and that they should be a lot better than they were. You're not dealing with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. And I think when you're dealing with really good wide receivers with Washington secondary on the field, they're going to get exposed. But I do think potentially the best weapon on the outside in the game is Malik name. I grew up in neighbors is going to be sexy all year long to watch. And he is a blast first down in the touchdown type talent. And they get five for 60 and change in his debut. But I'm going to go with the other side of the ball actually in Washington's offense. And it's a similar reason for me. I thought the Giants defensively were putrid in their secondary and against the pass. They did an okay job actually getting pressure on Sam Darnold at times. But Sam Darnold always had outlets. He was able to get the ball out, whether it was checking it down or in the intermediate area. He was able to push the ball down the field at times. And by the way, Darnold, I thought was dynamite. If you guys didn't see his first game with the Vikings, you know, it's his last chance, maybe as a starter in this league. And it's not even going to be in Minnesota long term after they drafted JJ McCarthy. But it's a pretty good situation for him with Kevin O'Connell and Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison and Brian Flores led defense that at least against the Giants looked very good in week one. But I thought that the Giants secondary, which Chris Bizignano, the Giants insider who joined us yesterday on blitzing, he said, is just flat out bad, looked putrid when I went back and rewatched the game. I could not believe, and this is not to take away from Sam Darnold who did a nice job. I mean, he was, I want to say 14 for 14 or something like that. So at the game, yeah, to start that game, he petered off a little bit as the game went, but he was just throwing to open receivers often in the first couple of quarters. They finished week one 30th in yards per play defensively, dead last in a couple categories and 29th against the past. They gave up about 5.6 yards per play. They could not get off the field and they were 32nd in sex per pass attempt. So you look at some of those things, you know, from last year, those numbers carried over into 2024 where they were 28th against the past and 28th against the run and 28th in yards per play and 26th in sex per pass attempt. It's not just week one. It's last year's numbers too. This is not a good defense. And specifically, it's not a good secondary. And I think it's just with the doctor ordered for some open receivers throwing the ball into space into bigger windows for Jaden Daniels and maybe getting these receivers going a little bit. If it's going to happen, this is the week it's going to happen. You know what I mean? Like, you're not going to have many better opportunities than this one. I don't think they have that card to play. I don't think they've got that waiting where they're good enough to take advantage of bad. Like we talked about that a lot. Remembering possible. Remembering Rivera's first year that that weird 2020 year, we all know what happened. But they got a chance to beat up on some bad quarterbacks teams that were reeling and they were just good enough to take advantage of bad. That's a that's a that's a threshold. I know that sounds trivial and we should frankly expect a lot more. But there is a baseline. In other words, if you're not any good, you find yourself down in the muck with another team. It's not very good. And it's a it's a rock fight. If you're decent, if you're part of that middle bucket and you play a terrible team, see the Saints and Panthers this weekend. The Saints aren't they're going anywhere. Not special about them seven, eight, nine wins ish, but they beat the breaks off of that hapless group of zilches down there. And that's what you that's what if you're good enough, you can do that. If this unit is good enough at all to do anything at any point in time, this is the week. Yeah, I don't know what Washington is yet. And I don't want to sit here and pretend to know I've got one game, which isn't enough, especially when you don't take the preseason seriously. And that's not a knock on how they did it. Although it's not how I would do it, but it's not on how the league does it. Sure. And enough with the argument that we've had for years as an industry, not you and I specifically, but football fans and media have had about not needing the preseason and look at the Rams. The product is worse in week one than it is in week 10 bar none passing offenses statistically way down. People pay for not playing their starters every single year in the preseason and we pretend like they don't, which is fine. If your point is just to keep guys healthy and you'll wear it for a week or two. Okay, but let's just acknowledge what it is. So I think it's important to say we don't really know what's going to be good, what's going to be bad from this operation yet. We've got one game and in a week to week league, it could be completely misleading. But a lot of our priors got confirmed and I think that's where some of our confidence is coming from, which isn't always fair. But I will just say that if we're saying which side of the ball is going to improve, both of them have a great chance to. It's your best shot for a while as bad as the Giants are though, they're doing the exact same thing there about Washington, just so everybody knows. And I'm not just saying that. I mean, I actually listened to their radio, W F A N a couple of days back. And after their game, they were referencing the potential of Daniel Jones being on the hot seat and going to the backup quarterback and what other changes could they make. And the idea was, well, look, they've got Washington this weekend is your get right game. They've got a chance to break out on offense, to play a lot better, look a lot better on defense against the rookie quarterback and receivers that they don't worry about, right? It's the same thing we're talking about. Yep. So it's, it's an even game in a lot of ways. Like Washington is a narrow favorite. I think the line opened at three. It's down to one and a half in a lot of places. You get two for being at home. So by definition, the odds makers actually think the Giants are probably a half point better or so than Washington. It's a toss up type game, but both sides of the ball should be able to look way, way, way, way, way better than they did last week. And there's only a couple games like this on the schedule, like this one in the Panthers, where you go in and go, hey, let's get right on both sides of the ball. And it's a plausible thing. It could absolutely happen. Indeed. And there might be other opportunities as the year progresses with with injuries or how a team is playing, et cetera. But remember, going into this season, there was only one game. This is from Mike Clay with the SPN where Washington was the prohibitive odds on favorite to win this week, two game against the Giants. And I think the Panthers was closer to 50 50. I think I would change those odds now, but that's just me talking. So yeah, there is an opportunity here, right? Week one, the thing that has frustrated me a little bit is everyone's now kind of saying, well, Tampa is really good. They've made Tampa to some world beater. They might win that garbage NFC South, but so what? They're not going anywhere. And if they do, I'll eat my hat. But this is another team that's down bad for a different reason, right? This is the beginning of a build, even though they won't say it. I'm happy to say it, by the way, this is the beginning of a bill. They're trying to start something here. And I give them credit. It's going to, there's going to be some pain and some growing pains dealing with it. New York is in a very different place. They had a choice and they paid their quarterback a lot of money, not as not the top end of the market, but not the bottom either. That's a lot. They moved on from certain players going, we can't afford to keep both say Quan Barkley and this guy. We can't afford this. They were acting like they're supposed to be pretty decent, like they thought they were going to be competitive. At least that's what it looked like to me, with some of their moves and with that off-season hard docs. There weren't different spaces, right? But both teams come in probably needing some validation. And it's not a must win for any kind of football sense, because it's a must win if you're trying to get to the playoffs or trying to do something special this year. I don't think that's in the cards. Maybe some fans did, but I don't. To me, this is a must show better for both organizations must be much better than you were in week number one, which is a massive letdown for a lot of people. So Danny thinks that the defense is going to look a lot better than it did against the box. I'm going to go with the offense and roll the dice on them taking advantage of a bad giant secondary. Hey Mike Vlinny here host of Cash The Ticket alongside my partner Jim Costa. It's really simple. 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