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Biggest Storylines Entering Week 2, Dan Orlovsky Joins G&D To Discuss Jayden Daniels

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1:00- We go around the NFL and give you the biggest storylines ahead of week 2 in the NFL.

17:45- ESPN's Dan Orlovsky joins G&D to discuss what to expect with Jayden Daniels, and much more around the NFL.

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We are two Days away from another batch of nfl games So let's go through each and every week to match up and give you some of the big story lines This weekend around the nfl will start you off in baltimore right up 95 where the los vegas raiders are oh and one as are the ravens Somebody needs to get off the shnight here and you'd imagine it's going to be baltimore after they lost a thriller At the hands of the chiefs arrowhead stadium They've also had extra time to prepare for the raiders who dropped a game to the chargers in week one Lamar jackson's ready to play in front of the home crowd I've just been in front of our crowd, you know in front of our environment Knowing the fans get the experience us, you know in that in that stadium And I believe we got some new addition going on that stadium. So that'll that'll be dope for the for the crun for the fans Uh, but i'm looking forward to it man. And I believe everyone want to see us Especially at home Get right ravens. This is a great opportunity. They're nine point favorites eight points depending on your book Uh, I don't think the raiders are particularly good. I do know this the ravens are And this is the time for them to kind of thrive It was they lost a thriller on the road as you mentioned against kansas city last week could have easily tied the game Maybe have a chance to win it if is a likely's shoe size was one size smaller even a half size smaller Uh, that was a fantastic showing it's been so well so long We kind of forgot about it ravens great chance to get to one on one nine catches for 111 yards for likely in the breakout And he would have had a two touchdown 120 yard game if not for as you said Now the toe being about an inch too far Uh over the goal line at the end of the end zone Let's go to the game number two of the sunday slate also in the one o'clock window The chargers who started one and oh by beating the raiders and the carolina panthers in charlotte For la jim hard boss trying to get to two and oh and the schedule looks like it lines up Well for him to do that in his first season with the chargers Meanwhile first year head coach dave canalis saw his team give up almost 50 points to the saints By far the worst team in the league in the season opener Very very little expectation for the panthers coming into the season got lower. I think the storyline here is going to be Bryce young He's got to start showing something as early as it is one game into his second season It's getting late early for him. He was Terrific in the opener. This is young as he gets ready for his first game in charlotte this season About uh for everyone um and then obviously for me, you know, we're looking in the mirror first Um, you know, we all have that that mindset of want to be better You know, you look at plays that, you know, which could execute it better Um, and you know is you know got to learn from it And then now that was what monday was about and then now we've we've turned the page Uh, we've turned into um, you know, we're all in for for the chargers Um, it's it's lessons we addressed at the time and now we're we're all about, um, you know, how how well can we prepare for sunday 13 for 30 43 And it wasn't that good 161 through the air with two interceptions this weekend I'm a big fan of Bryce song the person Uh, I fell in love with him as a quarterback in Alabama like a lot of people did This is this might go down as one of the all-time misses dude. He's in a terrible situation. Carolina should be relegated But god, he does not look the part of an NFL quarterback chargers don't look now They could be two and oh under harba pretty entertaining game here for the norlan saints and the dallas cowboys and dallas Both teams trying to get to two and oh the saints are the aforementioned club that dominated the panthers So the big question is well, how much of that was new orleans versus Did they just take advantage of the worst team in the nfl? We know the second part is yes, but are they pretty good? Also, that's a possibility I saw it's the first time in years that a team is one a week one game by 20 points only to then be Dogs by as many points as they are against dallas, which is pretty revealing dallas's defense did not miss a beat Without dan quen and joe wit they were exceptional against the cleveland browns They shoved it last week on de chan watson That press got in the offense came out and looked really sharp early after he got his contract And then they basically got to put their feet up for the last couple quarters of the game So the numbers weren't all that impressive for dallas Here's dak press got with a chance to get off to a two-win start without a loss Yes, I mean zajas said third downs understand they've got a Multiple of personnel you're going to give you a bunch of different looks with a bunch of different guys Um for us. It's about communicating up front understand They're going to try to squeeze us from the line of scrimmage to the top of our routes whether it's man or zone That they understand that scheme a lot of veterans there. Um, so for us it's about Um playing through that playing through that being physical with them Um converting those third downs and we'll be able to just get more shots at it and when we could do that Uh the success just rose through one week the narrative is kind of I would say that the the Demise of dallas has been greatly exaggerated people are reacting very strongly how great they were in week number one TBD for the rest of the year for me But that's as good as showing as you can have that you can't play 17 weeks in one week And they were really really good in week one six and a half point favorites at home One development or revelation for them brandon cooks four catches for 40 yards and a score It pretty much was ineffective most of last year. Yep. That was as big a game as he's had as a cowboy It feels like in a while in the last season So that could be something if maybe they get somebody other than cd lamb going Especially now the jake fergus and their tight end got hurt not sure of his status yet for this weekend Let's go to detroit where the lions will be playing in their dome for the second time in as many weeks to open the year Bucks one and oh going to detroit one and oh Buccaneers shredded washington We've talked about that game all week baker mayfield through for 290 yards and three touchdowns made it look easy. Their defense was also ultra impressive in the secondary Shutting down the commanders. They got a different challenge now with a monra st Brown jameson williams had a big 50 yard home run for a touchdown last week I'm really curious to see from an attroit stand storyline standpoint is the james and williams thing for real We heard all off season. This guy had a great hiatus. He had really worked his butt off He's about to break out wait till you see how good he is and then he looked like it in the first game Which is a really really big deal see if they can carry that over for motor city dan kambal It doesn't matter who you play I mean you got to find a way to win them and and I think what's unique is, you know, I think uh the rams last week and I think the bucks here are certainly uh, they have They have a good chance of of uh winning those divisions, you know, they're they're certainly going to be competitive and be right there in the race um And so this is a chance to to get an early one, you know, you get an early one and you just don't know what this is going to mean down the road and and uh And you if you can put some money in the bank early in the season It'll pay big dividends for you down the road Actually, I think it was a smart point because he started off almost doing a green eggs and ham type bit where he's going We'll play him on a boat. We'll play him anywhere. We'll play him in the air. We'll play him on the ground But then he moved to an NFC game You don't know how critically important it's going to be when it comes to standing home field, etc This is a proof of game for tamper bay week one. You got a one double a opponent Uh, I know who i'm talking about by the way Now you're stepping up with difficulty seven and a half point dogs on the road in detroit Detroit should win this game, right? But if you beat them everyone's got to look at you a little bit differently Uh through two weeks especially for bicker mayfield when it comes to a tamper sort of narrative is we're not getting a whole lot of respect here Despite winning that division for two straight years and winning a playoff game is someone going to pay attention to us You beat detroit people will I think that's a great point I mean if you're the bucks and you beat detroit in your two and oh You're a contender in the NFC for the moment Everyone's got to kind of view you as one of the better teams in the conference in the early going Especially after last year making the playoffs and winning a playoff game to your point It's not like this is some, you know bad team last year that's off to a decent start Uh, I do think the lions win speaking of resumes They'd be two and oh having beaten a rams team that might win the west or or at least make the playoffs behind san fran And then a bucks team that has a great chance to win the south Pretty good start that really hard schedule, but it's in your building and that would be pretty Proof positive of what people think the lions can be this year handle in their business Let's stay in the conference go to lambo field in green bay where the packers are going to look to get off the snide This is a loser leaves town game here two oh and one teams A loss sends you spiraling in the wrong direction bad news for the packers is no jordan love They are going to start malleek willis the last time we saw malleek willis start an nfl game He started three times back in 2022 and the titans would not let him throw the football And that's not a bit he would throw it like five and seven and nine times or something It 60 passes in eight games and in three starts total uh, he completed 45 of them for three interceptions Still doesn't have a touchdown in his first 70 attempts as a quarterback in the nfl Uh, this is makla floor the head coach of green bay was getting malleek willis ready to start opposite electrifying talent antony richardson in indianapolis that is Malleek gonna be the guy As you go forward here and you preparing him to be the starter Yeah, if jordan's not cleared then we'll start malleek and shawn will be the backup Sorry about you Pretty critical information. I mean it's I know you have to ask the question, but they have a depth chart I mean it malleek came into the game last time. I guess they could have flip flopped him He could have been there out of the bull pen guy and they go with shawn is shawn manion, right? The old like pen state quarterback. I'm pretty sure no No, I mean shawn clifford the old pen state quarterback. That's who their third stringer is, right shawn clifford who stunk at pen state. I don't even know how he's in the league But what a bad backup quarterbacks. Yeah, all of a sudden, right? It's pretty it's pretty dire straights green man needs to survive they need to find a birdie here somewhere Maybe an eagle, uh, or you win maybe an ugly game go pittsburgh stealer style for the colts I think they really need this one. You can't start owing to in that division with houston off to that good start because your schedule is not Tremendously easy kind of going forward in a bunch of games where it'll be probably a coin toss 50 50 kind of a situation They need this one if they're going to compete in the division Which I expect them to and you won't get a softer landing spot than not having jordan love over there Anthony richards and sneaky didn't have a great game But because he made some unbelievable plays it felt like he did Think he had nine total completions for the colts in a loss in week one But one of them was one of the most mind-blowing athletic feats. I've seen on a football field And this is this is the deal right you're gonna get Points and production but not in the way that a lot of other guys do it You're gonna have to deal with some up like he threw a terrible interception early on in that game And then he also like truck stick somebody made two or three plays where nobody else in the league can make including that one reason Like it's like a fallaway jumper from michael jordan except you threw it 70 some yards in the air I mean You're going to you're going to get stuff, but it's a different way than everyone else does it But he's can't miss yeah, if I get points in production, that's fine I think they ended up throwing for sub 200 yards It did have 300 as a team they ran for over 100 He was obviously part of that One of the most important games of the one o'clock window on sunday is going to be the browns And the jaguars both oh and one cleveland looked really bad against dallas Jacksonville let a win slip through their fingertips against the miami dolphins Both of these teams came into the year thinking their playoff teams I would say this would be more of a damaging loss For the jaguars because they're at home and because they should have beat miami whereas the browns can at least just kind of Wash off a bad start and then get home next week, but the jags and the browns both Can't afford to be oh and two with their playoff aspirations head coach dug peterson On travis etn and getting his ground game going one he's self-motivated two He and I spoke even during the game sunday and then afterwards You know and and I just just reassured him that that we're gonna continue to Give him the football and and I think that's the The next best thing is to get him right back on that horse as they say and and Keep keep feeding the ball and uh, I don't want him to be tentative You know cautious. I still want him to attack be aggressive and and uh just learn from So cleveland to your point gp if they lose the jacksonville their next two games giants raiders commanders That's three games. You could have a chance to get off the shnide there You can be three and two through five very easily kind of my thinking yeah for jacksonville buffalo houston cults Uh-oh They need this one. Yeah, you just can't be owing to especially at home And before de shan watson turns it around if he's going to let's go to minnesota where the vikings are looking to get to a surprise To and oh they got some good news today. I guess and that is that it does not look like christian macafery He's out going to play. He's ruled out and now it sounds like san francisco's considering Putting christian macafery on injured reserve as well Which would mean he'd list it miss at least the first four games Which by the way fantasy owners all over the place are slamming their steering wheels Right now, but we'll digress on that for a moment. The 49ers won by dominating the jets They looked very good without macafery. Jordan mason was marvelous Their backup running back ran for 140 yards on the ground in a win For minnesota one of the really impressive outings of week one and I know they played the giant stanny But sam darnell lit it up. He was 14 for his first 14 passing game for kevin oh konnell looked efficient They ran the ball really well with erin jones and now they go back to one of the best venues in football at home To try to beat a san fran team. They beat in prime time One year ago when you're at you know at quarterback. I feel like a lot of times you can feel Everything kind of collapsing on you not not just in the game, but you know Theoretically like as a whole just if things aren't going your way you can feel the way to the world a little bit and You know at the end of the day. It's it's your job to just Put the ball in your playmaker's hands and let them go run and make a play sam darnell game manager 208 two touchdowns and a pick He completed 79 percent of his passes in week one for kevin oh konnell That's the formula san francisco is so good that if they drop this game at minnesota They'll be fine. You know what I mean like they're they're basically looking at their watch waiting for the playoffs They're that good for minnesota This would go an awfully long way to kind of validate their operation and you know some of the decisions They either foisted upon them or have to happen They'd be a really good spot with houston and green bay looming over the next couple of weeks If they could easily be one in three or they could find a way to maybe win two of those three games somehow as underdogs all of a sudden You're going we have to reevaluate minnesota that'd be really important for them We'll work our way through the rest of the slate on week number two's Sunday schedule as we continue on grant and danny But let's get ready to talk to dan or lavsky a vspn one of their lead nfl analyst The former quarterback joins us next to breakdown jade and daniels debut That is about six minutes from now on grant and danny You You You You It's a football friday on grant and danny on the fan Taking you up to 6 15 We'll make our confidence points picks at six o'clock We've got a commander spotlight coming your way in about 15 minutes But right now on the bet ql guest hotline bet smarter to beat the books Download the bet ql app is a bet ql.com espn's dan or lavsky one of the top football analysts in america There are very few people i'd rather talk to about quarterback play then dan who does such a great job on espn on television Dan thank you very much for the time you're back on the air in dc with us here on grant and danny. How are you? Great to be with you guys. I appreciate the con words. I'm doing fantastic. How are you guys Right, man. Yeah, it's football time. It's fall the weather's getting cooler all the things we like Uh, wanted to start i'm sure by now you've dove in pretty deep on the film from week one What did you make of jade and daniels performance in his maiden voyage? Yeah, there were some really good things to come out. I would say the You know the athleticism the legs to go and making some plays with his legs a really big deal I thought that there were a couple times when tampa came at him with some pressures That he didn't panic. Uh, he had some hot meaning, you know pressure with an unblock guy and he got the ball of his hands. I liked that Uh, there was a couple moments that no one got open for him and he didn't force the ball And I think his athleticism and the legs and his just his confidence and that really helped in those situations A couple nice check downs again. I'm not forcing the football down the field. We're good. So I do think that there's good positives of um Operation handling no huddle. I liked I do think overall There were moments where I said he's not totally sure what he's seeing Uh, he's not totally convicted or confident in what he's looking at and he didn't let the ball go in some situations that I would have said I would have preferred some aggression in that moment and and some convicted throws in that moment So I think you know for a week one start against a really difficult defense just Presentation and picture wise There's there's positives and then there's a lot of potential Learning and growth coming off of it So Dan how many of those moments I guess we can call them negative right or learning experience teachable moments We're gonna call it how much of that to you is Rookie first real NFL game with the bright lights on and things are moving You know like uh like timelapse super speed style. That'll be better as we go and how much is a You know, I'm not really sure about this. I'd love to know your distinction Yeah, I think there's there's probably three categories. It's Certainly, you know looking at a defense going. I don't necessarily I don't have the full picture or what I thought the picture was changed on me So, you know, there's a lack of conviction when you're looking at and I think there's the second thing of you know Not not a ton of clarity. Maybe of schematically what they're doing. You know, there's there's a ball down He didn't end up throwing he scrambled. It's in the third quarter And it's about 14 15 on the clock and they get into a two by two set and they go play action tight end wing And they've got a slot receiver running down Basically from the left hash All the way streaking across the to the front pylon And campa babe plays a defender underneath that slot guy And then a safety way to the left side of the field over the top and I would sit there and go Okay, well What are they teaching that slot receiver in washington says you have the chance to cross the field completely? Does he have to keep it more vertical the whole the so I think that's part of it And then also and this is it me trying to take a knock and shot at anybody It's not like they have the most dynamic weapons on the perimeter outside of terry, you know, so there's there's a little bit of Do you have a ton of confidence in That receiver going to outrun that defensive back for the ball? I think there's probably three categories that Some of that hesitation can fall into Dan or lavsky with us on g and d you can see why we wanted to get him on To talk about jadon daniels his debut will go around the nfl with him in a moment I don't think i've had the opportunity to ask you this dan because last time we had y'all Was just before they hired cliff kingsberry I mean you obviously studied his offense quite a bit when he was in arizona running the show there It'll be different now. He's not a head coach, but what do you make of? Kingsbury as a play caller and designer just generally, you know, it's only been a game But we're still getting used to it Some of the things that worried me happened in the first week And I don't know if you can kind of Maybe I don't know pore cold water on the idea that things change week to week But I didn't want to see mcclorn in the same spot all the time He was at an over an 85 clip. I thought he'd use more motion He still didn't do that. He's been bottom of the league three straight years in that Is that is that sustainable? Can that still work in 2024? I do not believe so and obviously I think clips a very smart football coach. I got a ton of success offensively in my belief In the NFL in 2024 and I've felt this way for about three or four years now if you don't want utilize motion in two different ways one for information and two for impact if you don't diversify how you displace defenders meaning notions play actions forcing defenders to move laterally Then I think you're doing an offensive disservice and you're relying far too much on execution Rather than identity I feel that way about a lot of different offenses And some of those offensive coordinators are my friends guys that I I know and have a ton of respect for I just don't I think in today's NFL With the philosophy of most defenses not all but most defenses which is going to be And it's been trending this way for two or three years We're going to put a cap on the defense. We're going to build an umbrella We're going to force you to be really efficient throwing the football Not going to give up explosives plays down the field and we're going to make you drive the length of the field I think that's really hard to do unless you're doing the sum of the stuff that I described offensively Um, I think it's really hard to run the football from shotgun and or pistol consistently There might be a team or two that's capable of doing it You better be Phenomenal at making the picture look the same offensively when it's married to a play action game I don't believe washington is So um I don't think he's going to change. No, and that's always been my hesitation when I knew cheating was going to be a commander dinner lopsie with us here on g and d Uh, I've started I feel the same, but you obviously have a billion times level of sophistication that I just simply can't get to I just know that I see the good offenses do it right? I mean, that's kind of where my simple little brain goes So my question to you is just devil's advocate What would some what would a proponent of doing it this way say to you? Like what would the counter argument be to what you just said if you could make it That cliff style is that what you're asking? Yeah, like in other words. What would he tell you if he was listening in? Yeah, I think there's there's A negative to doing it or a potential potential negative to doing it. Okay. So number one You have to have the skill guys that can handle all the verbiage of that motion and movement the formation and the changes That get attached to it. Number two. You have to have a quarterback that can manage and control all of it and then number three you have to have offensive lineman that can handle some of the Rules that might change because you are using those motions Okay, so you got to have everybody because as an offense if I line my quarterback under center And I I present a bunch to the right and I'm gonna throw Dan on hold Ryan. You see if you can just Work out. I want to hear that. Yeah, I'm really quick because this is too good to miss out on dan or lavsky of espn Is with us here on grant and danny joining us on the fan you can hear he's got strong takes on the king's berry offense Uh, so dan, I'll tag you back in here. That was too good. So I wanted to make sure we could hear you so you can keep going Yeah, so So the everybody's got to have rules that they're able to adjust with on the flat Like if I line up with a bunch to my right and just a single receiver terry mclaurin to my left And he's reduced puts in the tackle and I want to go a play action fake to the left And then set jadon jadon's up in the b-gap on the right Well, I might line up in that bunch and then motion a receiver and as I motion the receiver He passes jadon. I'm going to snap the football Well as I do that the defense might adjust And my offensive line might look at that picture and say well These are the six guys that were five guys that we have to block And then all of a sudden that motion happens in one of those five guys changes And then all of a sudden a blitzer comes off the right edge And our offensive line doesn't adjust to that guy being very responsibility and it's a sack fumble And so unless you have the guys that can handle that That can teach that that know the problems with all of that It's silly certainly for you then to teach and install here often so um Hi, Aaron rogers doesn't like and use a ton of motion. So there's Definitely a ton of advantages to it But if you don't have the right people To teach it and then really to know what the problems of it are So you are setting yourself up for failure wearing clips off and he can sit there and go Well, yeah, there's a simplicity to this And we've got the guys to do it Um and allows our team to play fast and we don't think as much necessarily And some of those other offense are there there is this there that potential positive is actually for sure Dan or lavsky with us on grant and danny here on the fan You mentioned That it's harder right now to make some of those chunk passing plays and the proof was there in week one 24 quarterbacks through 20 more times with one touchdown or fewer Uh, we have not seen that since the merger 17 quarterbacks 20 throws sub 200 yards Haven't seen it since the merger in a week one 27 fewer passing touchdowns this past week than in week one three years ago Why is that? I mean, how would you make that make sense for me? Hopefully you guys got a lot of time baked into this segment Like there's a lot of reasons. It's not a singular one. So I do think it's a little bit attached to guys Not playing it's on the preseason. Absolutely. Um, I think defensively it goes back to some of that structural stuff That I was referencing before where these teams are going to play in two high states these And here's so everyone understands when a defense lines up in two high safeties consistently It becomes math And there's only so many different ways that you can change the math The best way is you have to run them out of it You have to force them to bring another human being down closer to the ball And not only do you have to commit to running the football You have to be effective in running the football and over the course of the drive and then over Of the course of the game Two when teams play two high safeties. There's really only four areas of the field That you want to try and attack that are somewhat downfield two of the places are down the sidelines 20 yards and that turkey hole that honey hole area and then two of the places are Basically behind your linebackers on the hashes. Okay, the only way So throw the ball So behind the linebackers on the hashes is one of two ways So high low them meaning put a receiver behind them and put a receiver in front of them That takes time in the dropback game for two So play action pass them and to displace them either vertically or horizontally Teams aren't doing as much play action and as effectively and so therefore these defenders are just dropping back to 10 yards The pass rush is forcing the quarterback to throw the ball at four or five yards And with three or four defenders with vision on the quarterback They sprint to the ball and it's a four-yard completion For washing its passing attack dan What would your prescription be this week? Not only kind of not just for this week against the Giants, but sort of going before for the best practice maybe to develop jade and danos to get them to a ceiling Yeah, I mean again systematically. I'm a believer in a lot of the things that cliff doesn't deploy Um, you know, I think this week And this is probably a concern of mine is I do think the Giants defensive line is much better than it showed in week one I think the Vikings have a phenomenal offensive line Washington's is concerning. I do think that Jayden's athleticism can't help but so just pass game-wise If I were cliff, I would sit here and say What the fudge are we doing with Dexter Lawrence every play because Dexter Lawrence can literally ruin the football game from a defensive dot perspective? I think then second is Their defensive coordinators philosophy is they're just going to play top-down They're going to try to show one coverage and disguise at the snap and they're going to force jade into Play with the cloudy thought process of what the coverage is. So I do think quick A ball out to the perimeter of past game yards out to the catch Have to be a part of it. You have to play action to the weak side of the field and try to layer the defense So meaning guy vertical guy intermediate guy shallow into the boundary That's the best way to attack this defense team wise Um and then moving forward Again, I think part of that is how how does it's not developed? How does McCaffrey develop as passcatchers to really be threats? um, I think Thematically, I want to see some advancements and some of the stuff that they do. I don't know if clip is going to install that Dan super insightful. It's why we wanted to track you down and get you on early this season Thank you for hopping aboard with us. It's been great watching you guys get ready for week two Enjoy the games ahead on sunday. Thank you, Dan Thank you guys so much you as well. You got it. Check him out on espens NFL coverage NFL live He's all over the dial over at the four-letter network Uh, we can react to some of that because he was way more opinionated on Kingsbury's offense than I anticipated frankly Next as well as give you a commander's spotlight. It's grant and Danny on the fan You you I think clips a very smart football coach. I got a ton of success offensively in my belief In the NFL in 2024 and I've felt this way for about three or four years now if you don't want utilize motion in two different ways one for information and two for impact if you don't diversify how you displace defenders Meaning notions play actions forcing defenders to move laterally Then I think you're doing an offensive disservice So it I was Dan or lobster you just a couple of minutes ago right here on grant and danny We'll get to our commander's spotlight coming up in just a moment. We're taking you up to 6 15 tonight We've got our predictions for the game on sunday coming up and our confidence points picks as well We'll also get you ready for nats baseball before we say goodbye But I mentioned going to break danny that I was a little surprised how candidly or lavsky came out to say Yeah, really like the kingsbury offense at one point he said Yeah, the things I hope they do and want them to do or not things the cliff kingsbury is going to do That's telling whoa But you just heard there a couple of his gripes and that answer came from me asking Hey, he doesn't use motion very much. He didn't in Arizona. He hasn't here And it doesn't seem like he plans on moving terry mcclorn around a lot Which we're all pretending like we're experts and saying that's not going to work But maybe it will maybe he's got a plan Maybe that could be a thing and so I asked or lavsky can that work? And he said no Which is a little bit troubling. Uh, this is that full Answer from the excerpt you just heard though from our conversation with more context and detail I do not believe so and obviously I think clips are very smart football coach. I got a ton of success defensively in my belief in the NFL in 2024 and I've felt this way for about three or four years now if you don't want utilize motion in two different ways one for information and two for impact if you don't diversify how you displace defenders meaning notions play actions forcing defenders to move laterally Then I think you're doing an offensive disservice and you're relying far too much on execution rather than identity I feel that way about a lot of different offenses and some of those offensive coordinators are my friends guys that I I know and have a ton of respect for it. I just don't I think in today's NFL With this the philosophy of most defenses not all but most defenses which is going to be And it's been trending this way for two or three years We're going to put a cap on the defense. We're going to build an umbrella We're going to force you to be really efficient throwing the football Not going to give up explosives plays down the field and we're going to make you thrive the length of the field I think that's really hard to do unless you're doing the sum of the stuff that I described offensively Um, I think it's really hard to run the football from shotgun and or pistol consistently There might be a team or two that's capable of doing it You better be Phenomenal at making the picture look the same offensively when it's married to a play action game I don't believe washington is So I don't think he's going to change. No, and that's always been my hesitation when I knew jaden was going to be a commander I mean at the end there my hesitation when I knew jaden would be a commander That's pretty jarring. Yes, it is and listen. He's got a levels. I said in the interview You've heard it. I've got he's got a levels sophistication I'll never have just having played the position starting at the way that he does So what I do is I try to read all the smart people and consume all the smart people who have said something similar And that's led to me to my philosophy If pressed under oath, I would I'd be thrown out of court because I I am not an expert witness here But I guys like warren sharp who point out data trends dana or lavsky I think of is really smart and sharp didn't mean they're right a hundred percent of the time But the smart folks who study these sorts of things go here is the trend line and here's what they're doing and it's divergent And you either are a genius because you buck the trend and don't buy in or you're being left behind And my fear and my belief is the latter that they're being left behind. I think they're too defendable I think it's with with with what they have it should be tougher to deal with them Then it is and it is going to be Well, they certainly were in week one and again While providing as much information. I think that's the job. We try to do an informed show Providing as much context for our opinions as we can. I also want to keep spinning that second plate for now of the open Mindedness that I still have that it was one game because I never want to be overly reactionary. The problem is My fear going into the game was met. Yeah, my fear was Isn't this just what he's going to do? And then in the preseason, that's what he did when they had their starters on the field And if you remember a couple of the nerds came out and yelled about it And then a lot of the reporters that are out there every day yelled at the nerds and said, well, that's not what he's going to do He just told us it's not what he's going to do and in practice That's not what he does And so it kind of calms your nerves a little bit, but then the game happens and that's exactly what he did And it did resemble Wendy Andre Hopkins under achieved in Arizona and a lot of what happened with the Cardinals But it's all the more reason why this weekend will be that much more interesting that much more telling against the giants It's another reason to tune in and it is going to be really exciting to get another Game under our belts to figure out what this thing's going to look like and what it is going to be but much appreciate dana Lovesky that was fantastic good conversation with him for joining us on grant and danny I know we already have a lot to do, but I kind of want to crowbar one more thing in Did you hear the story about this minor league catcher that was telling the other team what pitches were coming? I did I sent it in the chat. It's one of the craziest things I've ever seen in my life We should try to hit on that next as well right here on the fan