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Tua Tagovailoa Sustains Another Scary Concussion On TNF

Last night we watched Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa sustain another scary concussion, and we react to that here.

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13 Sep 2024
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I also thought last night in some ways was kind of a referendum on fandom And how we all act during games me you included everybody all of us in the sense that Toa was playing bad football and he was just getting destroyed by every dolphins fan by every NFL Analyst and everyone's crushing him. It's not personal, right? You're just talking about how a guy's playing but then immediately that was forgotten He was a human being laying on the field with yet another concussion very obviously After a three pick performance with a pick six and all of a sudden you go who cares about that? You know who cares that he didn't play very well. His career is In jeopardy potentially he for those of you that didn't see ran forward on a fourth down I think probably Danny because the game had gone so badly for him individually and for the team Kind of felt like on that fourth down. He didn't have a choice, but to go move the chains Desperation mode change the narrative a little bit trying to make a play right there I get it stays in the middle of the field and doesn't slide He does the fall forward thing that we've been talking about a lot with Jayden Daniels and others Lamar Jackson does it and I didn't even think he took a massive hit. No Demar Hamlin by the way. Yep, who once died on the field was the guy on the tackle for the Buffalo Bills He didn't do anything wrong. It wasn't dirty But it was a very awkward hit on to a whose head got bent to the side whose neck kind of gets you know Basically, he goes into draft mode the next as long as it can be as he's getting jammed back toward his body and Immediately in that fencing posture that we've seen from him before is on the field and it was just a petrifying scene One of those things were on your timeline. Everyone's just saying. Oh, no. Yep. The reaction in the bar is silent And on the field, it's the old Joe Thiesman just got brought to the ground and everyone's waving to the sideline to say this ain't good Yeah, we know this isn't your normal run of the millhead and that you said it looked Not innocuous, but look closer to that than one of those. Okay, you can see this is a devastating blow that was delivered This is up two freight trains hit each other head on your helmet spins around or something crazy It looked awkward, but not to the point where you go. Oh my god This is devastating, but then of course the subsequent reaction and it's not lost to me that it was handling that like I don't really have a bigger picture thing to say than that But the same guy that a little you know not that long ago Well, as you said was dead on the field and had to be brought back to life by first responding paramedics Was the guy that quote-unquote delivered the hit? Oh, he did was step up to try to make the tackle try to make the stop there on a fourth down and to it goes down This is now three Pretty serious concussions. It seems like within not that long of a time for the dolphins quarterback So this was the play last night on Amazon Prime Thursday night football as to it leaves with concussion Pressure to a step sub is gonna run for the first time Kaylee Hartung the reporter soon thereafter on the sideline had this on prime What's more to Kaylee guys the dolphins tell us to a tongue-of-eye low will not return to this game He has been ruled out with a concussion They were able to determine that just six minutes after he left the field and went into the locker room the irony there he got hit by tomorrow Hamlin, you know that history So that was out Michaels last night on the call a Lot of different ways we can go with this My reaction though really to the reaction has been I Don't know how to say it other than I am uncomfortable with the number of people that are telling to a tongue-of-eye low what to do The amount of people that have come out and said he has to retire you should retire do what's best for your family many of whom I'm sure in the football analyst business as former players or Former executives or whatever probably have met him but a lot of them don't know him at all But it really doesn't matter. I've been borderline uncomfortable Danny with how many people are so comfortable saying that now Everyone's entitled at their own opinion like I can tell you personally myself as a father with three kids I believe he has two I'd have to think long and hard about it But to me that that was a weird immediate reaction and I understand how we get there I don't think it's nefarious but I guess I'm team Mike McDaniel who talked about it today and basically said it's not in his best interest and McDaniel Made a great point is like if I come out and say I think he should retire and to adheres that he doesn't want to retire Well, that's terrible if I come out and say no, I want him to play football and he wants to retire Well, that's terribly so there's really no upside to me giving that opinion or anybody else giving any opinion It doesn't help him at all right now, and I tend to agree with that a little bit It's an it's an interesting perspective because I don't think me saying so let me just I'll introduce my my thought if you're asking me Danny, what's your advice? No one is but if you're asking me I'd go you should retire dude I feel comfortable saying that just because of what I've seen of his career But that doesn't mean that I get to make the choice for him and you know, I'm not lecturing him Yeah, does that make sense exactly and I'm not saying people shouldn't be giving opinions, right? We're all in the business of doing so and so if someone said hey Grant What would you do if you were to and maybe that's what everybody's doing but it feels more at least online? I would say more of like a what are you doing dude? You have a family and I don't that to me just crosses a strange line where you have no idea what it's like Number one what the conversations are like with his family with his parents with his wife what they all want but also just in general You know his whole Being is tied into this identity in football. I can relate to this having Basically broadcasted since I was ten years old and this thing's ever ripped away from me I'm gonna have to have some long sessions on somebody's couch at some point, right? I mean so much of your DNA and then what you think you Provide is tied into like what you've been and how you're seen It's just really easy for people as they dip into the bag of chips again They go to you got a retire, man. I don't want to see you in the fencing position again, and there's I Think that's different than just saying no one should have an opinion if that makes no I know I try to offer the distinction there So obviously it's up to him My recommendation is to retire immediately walk away. I had the same one for Alex Smith after his injury I my own personal viewing it was hard for me to stomach it I'm sitting there cringing every time we drops back and I think that will be my experience watching The dolphins with fees quarterbacking for them again But I the the only reason I don't go to the same place you do and I understand your point very well I think it's a good one is I don't think it's coming from a malicious place like I know I think it's coming from a place of dude, this is legit and scary and horrifying and We're all hoping that you can see that that you understand that this is up got his bell wrong Which is what used to be you know? ESPN's jacked up like we're doing highlights of these big hits where guys are leaving the field now And they can't walk straight and we used to think that was charming now. We know the difference The people who are saying like dude, you should walk away from this game aren't doing it because They're I don't they're about lecturing him. It's a oh my god. This is really bad kind of thing You know what I mean, sir? I don't have the same animus for it. I guess I think there's something to that. Yeah, absolutely I also think it's silly to assume That he doesn't know more about his situation than anybody's totally like I think you said somewhere in there. I Hope he knows that well I would be willing to bet that he does you know what I mean like I don't know what you don't think that he's being counseled by people on You know what the ramifications were for the hit and the recovery and what happens if he has another one I'd be willing to bet that he has a better feel for his situation than Larry in Landover or a grant in Lorton But you know, I guess it's possible that they're pulling the wool over him and he doesn't really know This is Mike McDaniel after the game last night at the podium. I believe I think it would be So so wrong of me to to even sniff that subject and and it's more in line of actually caring about the human being and you know, that's something that That entirely you're talking about his career, right? his career is his you know and That's something that I think I Just really really really wish I totally understand it and it's not misplaced I totally get how that's where people want to go to I just wish That people would for a second to hear what I'm saying that bringing up his future is not the best interest of him I Should point out that was McDaniel today with the media not last night Antonio Pierce who's a coach of another team in the NFL was asked about this, which is interesting Yeah, I was on and he gave an answer that this was one of the ones where I thought again This is very powerful. This is a strong statement and I'm not saying he's wrong for making it But it it just strange to me that another team's coach is giving to advice on what he should do I'll be honest. I'm telling retire. It's not worth it. It's not worth the play of the game I haven't witnessed anything like I've seen that's happened to him three times Scary you can see right away the players faces on the field You see the sense urgency from everybody to get to a help. I'm just saying at some point, you know He's gonna live long and he's on play football. Take care of your family I don't think you said anything wrong and I think as a former player. He's got a perspective that certainly Better on this maybe than anything I could provide but you don't see that very much. No, that's unusual. I And I'm sure he was asked about it. I didn't see the entirety of their press conference You heard that audio I doubt it he came out and said hi everybody before we start. I have a statement before we talk about the game I'd like to tell them I made off in quarterback that he needs to step away But it just it shows you you know again I don't I don't think it's misplaced And I think that's the only the only thing I'm trying to offer here It whether I feel like it's a hundred percent appropriate that another coach is talking about other teams quarterback in general I wouldn't say that's the right thing. This is I guess the whole point of this discussion to me is that this is different than your regular Monday morning breakdown of of the games yesterday. This is one of those Pug your kids kind of moments where they're like this is scary like this is downright life. This is life stuff You know kind of beyond dropping back