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If you like to win money, check out the early edge pre-game show leading up to all prime time games on our Sportsline YouTube channel. I'm hosting that every Monday, Thursday and Sunday. And then two, I'm matched up against my godson Teddy Honeycutt, who's in the listening area for you guys in fantasy football this week. And I just want to let Teddy know publicly that he's going down. I'm going to destroy him and I'm going to break him and send him to O and two in the basement. See it, Teddy, Teddy is curtains. So I thought the shout out was going to, I thought the shadow was going to be for your buddy Zeke. So I'll do that for number three. Shout out to your friend Zeke. There you go. And Zeke's son. Yeah, there you go. Oh, Zeke's son, Teddy. Yeah, Teddy's going to get worked this weekend. He's going to get put the, can he, can he, can he put the body bag? Wolfpack, NWA, NWA Wolfpack now. He's going to get these hands. All right. A couple of things you've been tweeting about that I am curious about. Starting with, I saw you had tweeted a little bit about the usage for the Falcons for Kirk Cousins. I just saw a video of Kirk who was here in DC for many years, like dropping back under center and you just can't convince me he's okay. I mean, he does not, he said today, like the Achilles is fine. And we know this, this health versus actually healthy thing. Like, yes, he's not injured anymore, but he also isn't moving like he used to. What's your take after they had him in the pistol and the gun, the entire game, which is obviously not his forte. He's a dropback, you know, play action assassin. They didn't do that one time. Oh, yeah. I think it's a major, major concern for this offense. And you look at, I mean, just the whole game, like he was, I think he was under center one time. So they're running out of pistol. You know, you don't get the usage in the throws and the target that you want for Caltech, he sort of touched down, but you know, sort of a busted coverage. You don't get much straight to London. It's all Ray Ray McLeod and cousins operating in the pistol, which is just, it's not going to fly for this offense. Ironically, of course, it came against Arthur Smith, the old O.C. who was so bad there in Atlanta for a few years, or the old head coach there. You know, I think it's pretty obvious too. If you go back and watch the Falcons in the Steelers game, there's the Kirk is throwing with his arm and you can get away with that a little bit if you're Josh Allen or Patrick Mahal, you know, but if you can't plant on your back leg because you're worried about your Achilles that you're coming back from as an elder quarterback and you can't, you know, you're worried about dropping back from under center and running this play action. It's severely limited your playbook. It's severely limits your offense. And it does beg the question. If you want to be put a temporal hat on, you know, is this why the Falcons didn't play Michael Pinnock to their final preseason game? Because if cousins didn't healthy and you paid them all that money, I realized that he's the starter and he's the incumbent. But if your offense is potentially better with Michael Pinnock's, you should absolutely roll Pinnock's out there and let Kirk cousins get healthy. I know the dynamics don't work like that in the NFL, but you're right. I mean, like they're out here force leading us videos of cousins doing dropbacks and it doesn't look natural. The whole thing is very concerning. If you're a Falcons fan or has a Falcons over win total this year, both the Colts and the Packers lost in week one, but different things are going on there. Obviously, right? Green Bay, maybe without Jordan Lava, there's this weird gamesmanship that maybe he plays maybe doesn't. I don't know the Colts. I thought we're fairly impressive going wire, you know, toe to toe with Houston. Give me your thoughts on that match up on where each team goes from here. Yeah. Very quick. What, uh, what sports book are we sponsoring here? Are we working with you? I don't want to be a fan of a guy. OK, fatal fatal doesn't have this odds up yet. And I like to do as well, but, um, they don't have the odds up for Malik Willis passing yard yet. I've seen it some other places. Understand. A hug. One, it's like, yeah, it's in a whole number is an integer. It's 178 and a half. Um, I saw I got a 177 and a half and I got that in and the juicer from one 20 to 135. But that again, so that's good. Those are going to come crashing down. I don't think there's any chance to love plays this week. That would be irresponsible by the Packers. And, you know, for the long term, they just paid this guy. So the link was out there. I think it's a little crazy to suggest sprained in CL. He's going to come back in one or two weeks. But I think that timeline will be adjusted based on the outcome against the Colts. They're three point dogs at home. They have, you know, you have Matt LaFour is a really good coach. And I think there's a chance you can, you know, work some stuff up, where they're, you know, running the clock down to absolute zero every time. You see Josh Jacobs, you do a lot of Jaden Reed out of the backfield stuff. And you just minimize the number of times that the Colts are on the field. The Colts like to play fast, by the way. And then, you know, also minimize the number of times. Malik Willis throws your defense skills one for you. So I think that's probably the timeline there for the Colts. It'll be interesting to see the evolution of Anthony Richardson. You know, they sold Gus Bradley said they sold out to stop the pass. And so Joe Nixon just obliterated them in the run game. And Anthony Richardson was like the number two fantasy quarterback, but completed nine passes. One of them, one of the best throws you'll ever see in your entire life down 60 yards on a rope falling backwards to Alec Pierce. I think you just his evolution as a passer is what intrigues me about them. I think they can win without that. But yeah, I mean, this is, you know, this game probably determines how quickly Jordan love comes back. Will Brinson on Grant and Danny. I'm going to start this question with the craziest status. I've seen so far this season from NFL on CBS that you retweeted. Aaron Rodgers has not thrown for 300 pass yards in a game since week 14, 2021. To put in that in the context, Andy Dalton has done it three times since with three different teams. He's done it with the bears, saints and panthers. Weird since Rogers last did it. What did you make of the Jets? It's really early. It was one game. They're playing against a potential Super Bowl team. So I'm sure too much is being made out of them struggling. But I don't even mean to lead you in that way as much as like what were some of your takeaways from our first look at Rogers and Hackett and Wilson together in New York. No, I think on Rogers specifically, there was that one drive where he was like the camera caught him like turning and smirking. He was like, yeah, what do you like ripped one into Garrett Wilson? Breeze Hall's usage is through the roof. He looks like he's going to have a monster season as long as he stays healthy. Catch you. I think you'll catch a ton of passes from Rogers this year and run the ball. Well, they should beat up on bad teams. My biggest concern and with Rogers, you know, I think if you take the cousins thing and sort of extrapolate it by a couple of people, I think it was like eight weeks or something like that between your Achilles chairs. You know, Rogers looks like he's about eight weeks. You know, first of all, the current cousins, or at least had, you know, more time to regroup and to get healthy. You can sort of tell that. I think the bigger concern sneakily is that defense from the Jets. They, you know, for some of the redics not in there, you know, they lose price off. You don't have as good a pass rush as you did. They got gashed by Jordan Mason, who's, I think it's a really good player. But, you know, if you, Chris, you know, Chris McCaffrey, you feel like you're going to stop the run. I think a lot of teams can really just eat with their running backs against. And that's why I think you can see can win this week too, because they don't, you know, they have Hopkins and Ridley, but you can just like let these running backs and let these tight ends operate over the middle of field, pound the football. And I'm just not sure the Jets are going to slow people down the way that they want, unless you can force people into a situation where you're, you're throwing at those corners. So Rogers probably a work in progress. Jets defense, a bit of a red flag to me. Everybody will brinson with this here on GND. So we always offer all the caveats, right? Well, it's week one flooky stuff happens. You know, this isn't a gavel slam just because I have the preseason has gone over the last few years, et cetera, blah, blah, blah, usual caveats apply. That said, is there any team that you've changed your opinion on after their week one showing, because I got one in mind. I mean, the Falcons kind of come to mind who you have in mind. I thought Cleveland would be frisky and competitive and tough. And they were none of those things. No, I was I was down on Cleveland. I actually Pittsburgh by the team. I changed my mind on I was down on them. I think that, you know, they're just, they're just going to be Mike Tomlin desk and find a way to nine wins once again. Cleveland, I was down on, I didn't believe in Watson and thought, if you look at Jim Schwartz's defenses for whatever reason, and I like Jim Schwartz a lot. But if you look at his defenses, typically speaking, he was just like first year spike where they play really well. And then the second year, they can kind of fall off a little bit. They're also not very good on the road and graded home. They had a good score or a good record in one score games, point differential screen, you know, fall back to earth. You know, you win. You make the playoffs and win 11 games with five different quarterbacks starting. I mean, there's just a lot of luck involved there. And I think this Watson thing, off field and on the field is casting a shatter over that whole organization. I mean, it's, it's like you make this bigger, maybe it was lighting up the commanders down a damper. Oh, sorry guys. But, you know, and then like Watson, you just have all this guaranteed money and you can't get out from under it unless you get some sort of, um, uh, you know, uh, like a deuce ex machin out flying down from Roger Goodell that nullifies his contract, right? I mean, it's, it's, it's a, it just feels like just bad. Bides are on the entire organization. All right. So rapid fire here. These are the toughest games for me to pick. I just want to get your thoughts on just straight up, right? And I'm not worried about the spread necessarily this week. I have a sneaky feeling the dolphins beat the bills at home tonight. What do you think of that? I like the bills. I like the over better. I think it really, really fun game tonight. All right. How about this one? Again, I think this is really hard to pick. We were just talking about the Browns Cleveland at Jacksonville. Yeah. Jacksonville is just a better team right now, I think. And then like, what's good against the travelers? But I'm not buying his arm and his shoulders test. Is there any chance New England at home? Can get to two and O and just shove it on Seattle defensively. Yes. Good article in the Boston Herald today about how the Patriots have incorporated Mike McDonald's style stuff into their defense. Sort of a thing that Bill Belichick wouldn't do. I think that defense is going to be a problem. Seattle's offensive line, a big problem. All right. So that you kind of like that upset a little bit. And then the last one would be you were just talking about the Steelers in Pittsburgh. I would take them to beat the Broncos going away. But Steelers Broncos in Denver running with fields again. So there's not going to be a whole lot in the passing game there. Botanix is at home, not on the road. I kind of think Denver gets to one in one maybe. What do you think there? Yeah, I got Denver. Sean Payton is not losing to a team with Russell Wilson on the roster. And Russ might put on shoulder pads and like an extra fair shoulder pads and a helmet and do wind sprint the entire time or we go for the game. I think I think you see a much better version of Botanix. They'll move around a bunch and Denver gets a close one. And that one particularly, if you're getting three points of Denver, I think you have to deal with them in total, it's like 36 and a half. Been on the spot here, Will, but is there an O and one team where you kind of have circled where you're going? Man, they are under a lot of pressure this week. Otherwise dot, dot, dot, take it wherever you want. I mean, I think it's, I mean, maybe a little more micro into the roster of it. But I think you could say the New York Giants, you know, this is a team. Malik neighbors popped up on the injury report today. They looked just abysmal against Sam Darnell in the Viking. So Darnell was great. Don't get me wrong. But, you know, Saint Juan Barca is incredible, like the Eagles, Danny Dimes, Stinks, you know, it's probably all ownership fault for ordering him to go in a certain direction. But now I believe that it's the game in New York, right? It's done Washington, right? No, it's interesting. Yeah, it's here. It's here, okay. So you're not going to get the booze. But sorry, I'm getting confused on that one. Yeah, it's, I mean, like Washington's defense doesn't look good. I think we agree with that. The offensive line is a problem. Jay Daniels going to be spawn as hell and probably run all over the place. But if you're New York, I mean, you got to own two and the Cowboys look good in the other week. The Eagles look good in the other week. And, you know, you lose in commanders. You're, I think the pressure gets real turned up on Daniel Jones. I mean, this might be a figure job game and real, real turned up on Brian Dable and Joe Shane too. Yeah, for sure. What do we know about T. Hagen's status for week two? Not a great start to him trying to get a contract. Okay, so I'm not, I don't want to like, I'm not saying this isn't like live. I don't want to be like conspiratorial here and like say something I shouldn't. But I honestly don't recall the exact moment when he got hurt in practice, which is like all of a sudden he had a hamstring, but nobody was like, he showed up in the injury, injury reporter, the hamstring. I mean, I'm not saying he's not hurt. It's just Adam Schrefter tweeted something about this or said something about this on ESPN, or NFL live earlier, the off season, like way early in the off season, like April. I was like, if he is, isn't close to play, if he isn't completely healthy, watch, he won't go out there. Oh, that's a good point. I never said he got into like a fight with an analyst. And now that I've got it, I don't remember which one player it was, but they were like yelling at each other a little bit. And yeah, I mean, for last year, maybe there was no way. There's no way. He's going to sit and look like the bagels. So you have Jamaar Chase and T Higgins is like the first ticket, the second round, Jamaar Chase and top five ticket, top 10 pick, whatever it was. You paid for all this money, and you don't want to pay his weapons. They franchise tag T Higgins. It's clear they're doing the Jesse Bates thing, where they draft his replacement, the Jermaine Burton, and you let him go after making the player franchise tag year. It seems to me like T Higgins is sort of doing a nah. I don't think so guys. And so if he's on the injury report at all on Wednesday or Thursday, I don't think you're going to see him on Sunday. And you know, it sounds like there's been rumbling. It's like week three might already be off the table. Wow. Are the Rams good? Yes, but right. They just put three offensive linemen at Pookinacoo on IR, which is a big problem. You know, they went out and revamped the offensive line to be a really good run team. I still think that they'll be fine defensively, they lose their dial. They're not going to be as good. Could see a shoot out with Arizona. I that's one where, to me, the Rams are an easy pick. Sean McPhee is I think 12 and one and 11, two and one. The 12 and one straight up 11, two and one against the spread against Arizona, since he got to LA, which is just wild. And like Matthew Stafford with Cooper Cup, they still have some underrated guy. I think Colby Parkinson's really good. I think Whittington, the rookie is good, the anti-Johnson. They guys, they could fill in DeMarcus Robinson. They can make it work on the other pieces with Stafford. The offensive line is better concern for me because Stafford needs time back there. They need to go to run block for Kyron Williams. It's not going to be an issue this week. Arizona has nothing up front in terms of the pass rush. But moving forward, that offensive line, if it deteriorates any further, you do worry about Stafford taking too many shots. What do you think of Jaden Daniels in week one? I think I thought that he was as advertised in the Cliff Kings very often. So you're not as, I mean, we're very skeptical Kingsbury guys ourselves, but you're not necessarily. Oh, that was very, that was very, that was very skeptical. Like, I mean, you know, like you see, I feel like I see 40 Cliff Kingsbury tweets a day. And it's, you know, they're turning the car and spending 90% of his time on one side. There's not a bunch of pre snap motion. They're not running fast. You're trying to pound the ball. You don't have a great offensive line. And it really deteriorates into Jaden Daniels kind of running for his life. I mean, you know, it's sort of like, you know, when Cliff was running Arizona with Tyler, you know, like where it's like, all right, look, look, look, let's run. And I just don't know, I think if you're, I think to really, to really win games, there needs to be maybe a little more systematic, systematic approach, right? Where you sort of have a structure of an offense versus simply the playground. Like the playground stuff is fun. And I'm sure I got to be famous. You play them all over the place. I think he's a great talent. I think he's going to be fun to watch. But you know, you do worry about that a little bit, especially in, you know, a city where the last time you had a number two overall pick that ran too much, they didn't end up well. Well, thank you as always buddy. Enjoy the game tonight and this weekend. All right, guys, I'm great weekend. Super love talking to our guy at Will Brinson on Grant and Danny. Does his work over at CBS? All right, to know us. Igbonogany on defense, Brown on offense. The roles they'll play on Sunday. Two of the big keys for the commanders against the Giants. You're listening to the fan. [BLANK_AUDIO] Grant and Danny on the fan. The news of the day was that Emmanuel Forbes is having surgery on his thumb. He's going to miss four to six weeks in Washington secondary. So they're going to have to make some moves back into the roster, presumably, in the defensive backfield. But in the meantime, they've got some depth to tap into Michael Davis. I was surprised to see didn't play it all defensively in week one. That's about to change. And Noah Igbonogany, who has become the next man up at cornerback, is going to start opposite Benjamin St. Jude. The only good news I'm going to give you is that the Giants don't really have receivers that are going to scare you a whole lot. And Malik neighbors was actually limited in practice today. Had no issue on the practice injury report yesterday. But what they need today was listed as limited. Something happened on the practice field yesterday, I guess. >> Yeah, so seeing some reports now, Jordan Renan has basically said it's a tweak and it's thought of as minor, but still it went from not a thing to, as you said, limited practice today, something to monitor here as the week progresses. >> Yeah, receivers, otherwise, Darius Slaton, former fifth round pick. Wandell Robinson, who's been around, was their most targeted receiver in week one. Jalen Hyatt, who they drafted in the third round last year, is a speedster that they haven't used much. And then Gunnar Olschweski, he's the guy that used to play for the Patriots, who's like a punk returner type. I mean, there is nobody in that receiver room that should worry you at all other than neighbors. But that doesn't change the fact it was a tough first week for St. Jude. He said they didn't communicate enough. Nick Benogany is more of a nickel corner that's not going to be playing outside. And he has not been a starter in this league over the last few years. It was a former first round pick that teams have moved on from because they didn't want to continue to ask him to do the thing that Washington's about to ask him to do. >> Yeah, so, you know, larger role for certain guys, I think that's, I don't think you're losing a ton as you've alluded to correctly without Forbes being in there. But, you know, if there's the rare base defense, if that is even a thing in the year of our Lord 2024, where only two quarterbacks on the field, maybe it's Sandra still a little bit more off and opposite Benjamin St. Jude's. But you would think he's such an important role there in the slot that he would sort of maintain that at a minimum. So yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how they shuffle it up. Again, this is, it's such a transitional time in terms of the way secondaries are. It used to be, I've got to freeze safety and a strong safety. One guy was, you know, Merton Hanks, the other guy was Sam Shade. It looked like a linebacker that got lost at the went to the wrong meeting. >> I love Sam Shade. >> Of course you do. >> What on people? >> What on people? >> Sam Shade, where? >> 20? >> No. >> 30? >> No. >> 40. >> I, well, I should say that I'm not positive, but I remember him as 29. Darrus, can I get a PFR, Sam Shade, research analysis, please? I remember him as 29. That was my guy. >> Well, I remember you couldn't see what his eyes look like because that advisor was dark. It was tinted. You know what I mean? Like, which ways are you looking? You don't know. Got a visor on. >> His name was awesome, too. >> Yeah. Sam Shade. >> I've got, for the Washington Redskins, number 29. >> Let's go. >> Good for you. >> You sleep on numbers. >> Yeah. I do. I remember a couple. Where was I? Oh, yeah. So now it's different. Now everybody's the same and everybody rotates and everybody's kind of in and out and sometimes Quan Martin's a safety, but sometimes he kind of walks up and he's in the box, but he's also a corner if they motion a certain way. More positionless, more amoeba means a little bit less like, who's the starting corner back? Maybe your best player is another safety who could walk in and do some shots. >> Sure. And I'm not disagreeing, but you need to just have corners who can cover. And at some point-- >> Well, you do need that, too. >> Yes. >> So that's it can have zero corner. >> No, but they kind of-- >> It's not like our fantasy driver went zero running back until round 15. >> It's St. Houston, then what? I mean, at some point, you need a corner back, but you just put out there and let cover a wide receiver. And they don't really have that. >> No. >> At this point right now. >> No, they don't. >> It would be-- it feels like there's a pretty good chance the storyline's going to be that they got better without Forbes after this game. Maybe because they did, but specifically because it's not Evans and Godwin. Do you get what I'm saying? >> Of course I do. >> Like, you played the Bucks with your secondary, it's a terrible match up, you're going to get torched. Fast forward to this week. Now you're playing the Giants. >> Would you look at that, they look better. >> Much for fortuitous matchup. So you can prepare already for the man, they didn't get beaten nearly as much. Wow, weird. When manual Forbes isn't out there, Baker Manning didn't throw for 300 yards and four touchdowns. You're playing Daniel Jones, you're playing a weaponless offense largely, depending on what happens with neighbors. But I think there's also some truth maybe to the fact that I just don't see Igg Binogany being worse. Maybe he's also not effective, but they're not going to get worse at that position in my opinion. >> Yeah, it's also not as if they've got some star winning in the wings that was just being blocked by some veteran who's overpaid, right, where you had to start them. There's no white knight. There's nobody riding through that door to be the crusader here. They're going to be average to blow average probably more realistic at that positional year. What are you going to do about coaching wise, right? How are you going to scheme it up so that it's the bleeding stops that you're even in some of these games, because you can't just give up 37 points a week that ain't going to fly. I don't care how good your offense is, right? >> What about the other Noah? Noah Brown, the wide receiver, Cliff Kingsbury's offensive coordinator, trying to get balls to receivers, trying to make plays happen for this offense. What about Noah Brown and his involvement? Let's get to Kingsbury Dares from earlier today on Noah Brown and what the offensive coordinator said he might be able to provide for Washington. This was when he was meeting with the media this afternoon, it's going to be cut to from Cliff. >> We'll see with Noah. He's coming off a little of an injury, so we're easing him back in, but he's had some big games in a very talented player in this league. I'm excited to see what he can do. >> I'm excited to see what he can do also. Now, again, he was, he was such a late signee, right, where even though he has some familiarity with some parts of, you know, system or offense or whatever, still a crash course trying to get up to speed with all the different nuances, even though there's probably not much to learn in terms of motion, am I right? But even still, all the terminology, it's like learning a brand new language. So it's probably unrealistic for him to be able to play in week number one and be able to know everything intuitively. So we'll see here for week number two, maybe it's an easy end. >> Do you know what the injury was? >> I didn't know that, actually. I didn't know what the injury was. >> Yeah. Can we get a little more on that? I mean, they're not going to offer it, obviously. Was there a follow-up? Did he give any more detail? Listen to this again really quickly. >> We'll see. We know he's coming off a little bit of an injury. So we're easing him back in, but he's, you know, has some big games. >> That tells me the reason he didn't play, maybe it was what they said, you know, that like you just said, he wasn't completely up to speed with the offense, but a little bit of an injury could be a tweak or a pull or something. I'm sure maybe that was a factor then, right? >> You combine one and two and you get, okay, let's have him an active week number one, but now we can unleash him full go later. So what's the stop Noah Brown from being a guy this week that could go out and give him five for 60 or something like that? >> I think a couple things would get in the way of that, but I know what you mean, like they're passing game. The fact that they didn't throw it a wide receiver is the fact that they're not very good. But I'm just saying, I don't think there's anybody standing between him and opportunities. >> Well, that's what it is. >> Cardio last week and didn't catch pass. A lot of it is the key is after the whole camp and pre-season being the featured guy that everybody loved. No over and over again at the line of scrimmage getting all the bubbles and the smokes and the screens. He had two targeted balls he couldn't haul in and then he had the out route for 15 yards is only catch of the game and garbage time. Like those guys had a week head start. >> Yeah, Luke McCaffrey on three different screens as you as kind of alluded to. >> And you can still have him and then you'd have the biggest receiving core you've had here in years with McCaffrey in the slot and Noah Brown on the outside. >> Yeah, to me, Noah Brown is here not to do some of the slot stuff, not to do some of the short stuff, but to give them some semblance of a deep option. Even if you're not going to hit him, the idea that you might, I think is 90% of why he's here. Once a month, they'll take a shot, called up, dialed up at the right time, dating throw it as far as you can, Noah run as straight and as fast as you can. I think the threat of him was probably more important than the actual player. >> What did you find, Cleary? >> So standing did say that he did miss some time this summer in Houston with a shoulder injury. >> So I don't know what that might be with Cliff King's where he's talking about it. >> So he's, I mean, he even came here though in his practice since then. So he's not necessarily saying it was a new injury or like anything that happened during practice here. >> Okay. >> Okay. That makes sense. >> Yeah. >> If he's saying he's coming back, he's trying to get fully back up to speed. >> And learn the offense. That's a nagging thing. No problem. Let's make him an active week one. I don't know that his value is full route tree. He's better than the next guy. I think his replacement level in terms of, you know, working from 20 yards and in where he's exceptional is that being a big deep threat like to me, he's a much better version of down me Brown. >> Well, that's my point. I mean, he doesn't have to be particularly good to be better than what they've got. >> Right. >> Yami Brown had, has never caught 15 balls in a season, you know, he did it in two weeks at one point last year in a good offense in Houston. Why wouldn't he be able to just immediately slot in across from McLaurin in that formation? And, you know, when they go two or three receivers, again, the size of McCaffrey in the slot with him on the outside, I kind of like, and then you have a physical, you know, war daddy type and Terry, even though he's not as big as those other guys, but plays big. And that gives you, I think, a different dimension on offense that you haven't really had from a passing standpoint. Now, there's a whole other question, which you were kind of, I think, alluding to facetiously or maybe seriously, when you said, well, I'll tell you why it's not gonna go five for 60 as the number two receiver, because Terry McLaurin can't do that as the number one receiver. >> Yeah, I think anyone's going five for 60, but your point, if the point is, who's staying in the way of opportunity? No, but that's what I meant. >> Yeah, nobody. >> What is to stop him from being the number two receiver on Sunday? >> Absolutely nothing. >> And then he should be, then he should be the guy that gets, if he's healthy and he knows the offense. >> Yeah, assuming he knows the offense, he, let's kick the tires. >> Yeah, I'm letting him up opposite Terry McLaurin, or maybe on the same side, God forbid, that you have- >> Well, I know where that's gonna be. It'll be on the left. >> It'll be on the left. If you're scoring at home, it'll be on the left. But I'll send No Brown Deep, and I'll send Terry McLaurin somewhere else. >> You know what I mean? >> Who helps more on Sunday? It's obviously a binogony because he'll play more. So let's craft the question this way. Who do you think makes more helpful plays on Sunday and does a better job? Ig binogony or the other Noah? >> Well, I still think it's Ig binogony, but if you ask me again in two weeks, it'll be Noah Brown. I still think there's some learning curve that has to happen here. I think it's too much to expect. You just got on campus less than a month ago, and you got to know everything and be as good as these guys that have been living this since the springtime. I think that's a tall ask. >> Against my better judgment, I'm gonna go out on a limb and I'm gonna say Noah Brown. I'm gonna say that the giants do a let's take Terry McLaurin out of the equation thing. And someone- >> Wouldn't you? That would, yeah. >> Why wouldn't you? Someone else has to beat us, which is, to some extent, I think what the Bucks did. They didn't really have to because Kingsbury and the offense helped you take McLaurin out of the plan too. But nobody else stepped up. I think some of those balls to Zacchaeus early in the game that come back that was a little wide of him, maybe Brown with some catch radius holes that in. There was another play later. There was like a comeback for a first down, but three guys working on the left and a little stack. One to the right all by himself was Zacchaeus on a third and six. I think it was, he ran like a seven yard stop route and had a guy draped on his back, couldn't make the catch. You know, with his size, I think if you use Brown in those situations, those are receptions, just 'cause he boxes defenders out. So I'll say he actually has a four or five catch day. >> I hope you're right. >> And is really helpful and helps get some things going. 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Chris, do you think Noah Igg Benogany or Noah Brown makes more of an impact with the expanded role this weekend? >> I don't know a damn thing about either of those guys. All I care about is Jaden Daniels. I think we're going to get our first signature win this weekend in the Jaden Daniels era. In fact, he's going to score so many touchdowns, they're going to consider renaming the touchdown to Jaden. >> Giving out waffles when he gets into the end zone. >> Maybe they should rename the mask guy from Major Tuddy, Major Jaden. >> First win of the Jaden Daniels era has got to come this weekend, even if it doesn't, whatever, but we're in for a really long season. They got to look a lot better. That's my only. >> That's my thing. >> Must. >> And is you cannot look like you did last weekend, but just so we're on the same page. This is going to be a fun year, a competitive year. They're going to have a chance to go over six and a half wins. That was the market number in Vegas with the odds makers. This is one you got to win. >> I'm trying to say it's the same thing, but a different way. If you'd like us to believe you anymore, when you try to sell something, who are you talking to? >> The organization in general. >> Dairy Queen or somebody else? >> The football gentleman, local 53, everyone from a sales guy who's not, it's not his fault. >> But you're saying they got to win or they got to play decent ball? >> You got to play us so much better. >> I agree. >> And it probably would result in the win and gets the team. It's pretty terrible. Unless the Giants go, we can revisit it. They go 14 and 3 from here on out. I don't see it, but let's say they do. I think the Giants are going to suck. If you don't show well, all the hype videos and all of the Instagram posts, the next time you tweet out, hey, here's our schedule release. It's going to be nothing but trolls and goblins. The next time you're trying to convince people that this is different, it becomes harder to do so. This is a real important one, just so people believe you, because everyone wants to buy it. >> It's not a must win game. I like the parlance of our buddy Ben Raby, who's a hockey guy. And he goes with the auto win. You auto win this game. >> It's an auto win game not to be confused with Ottawa. >> Very different than Ottawa. But it's not a must win. It's an auto win. If you're at home, you're playing a team that, if worst case, someone can say, is everybody as good as you? Don't care. You have it on. It's week two. You're at home. You're debuting. You're rookie. It's sold out. You auto win this one against the bad Giants team. But if you don't, I need you to look good. That's the expectation. Let's go to Sean and DC. What's going on, buddy? >> Hey, guys, thank you so much for taking my call. >> Hey, buddy. >> Can I give a word of advice to the last caller? >> You may. >> We got the game last year, Cincinnati Bengals, against the Houston Texans. Nor Brown had 178 yards. We will feature Nor Brown. He will become Washington's number one target. Have a good day. >> Number one target. Terry McClellan would like a word. >> Well, here's how I could see it. Other teams go, not Terry, someone else. And then he beats him out by a couple of catches or a couple of looks or something like that. >> Noah Brown did have that game he referenced incense against the Bengals in a 30 to 27 win. The Houston offense was in a bad way. They had some injuries at wide receiver. Noah Brown's role was elevated and he went out on eight targets and grabbed seven balls for 172 yards in that victory. But here's my problem with that. >> Come. >> C.J. Shout out. Welcome through that door. It's Bobby Sloak, who's scheming him open in the Shanahan system. Coming with him to the nation's capital. I like that he had the game because I don't think the Ami Brown's capable of that game with the Texans. I don't think Alama Deza Kias is capable of that game with the Texans. So that in and of itself is telling he had two huge games in the row by the way before six-row buck 53 in a teddy. >> Exactly. Six targets, six grabs, 150 scored. That was against Tampa. You just watched them. That's a pretty good secondary. The Texans though hung 39. No Stroud, no Sloak. It's a whole different deal. I saw somebody today kind of doing this thing where they were like, well, what about when this guy did this? And it was the same kind of deal where it's like, well, he did that with three MVPs around him and a different coaching staff. So I'm not sure if it's utterly relevant quite to what we're talking about here and now. Yeah, I mean, if the point is Noah Brown's got talent in his had huge games, he has some pelts on the wall in that regard fact, can't deny that. But my confidence that he is that player is just not that high. The Texans probably don't let him walk if that was the case. Is he better than the guys they have other than McClorne? Very possibly. That's more indictment on them than endorsement of him. >> Agreed. >> But it's also why I'm giving him a chance to go catch a handful of balls this week. >> Yeah. >> If you gave, this is, I was trying to quantify things like this in a different way. If you gave an NFL receiver 100 targets in this offense, who would do the best? And you go down the list of the Tyree kill, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, all the usual suspects. You'd go down for a little while, then you get the term of corn. You got to go down really, really far to get to anybody that Washington had that wasn't Noah Brown, where you take someone else, right? The same average 100 targets in this offense and some of it would be fun to debate. But right now, Noah Brown is higher to me, at least, not having seen him play in Burgundy and gold pants, not having seen him play yet. I'd put him higher on that hierarchy than any of the guys they had previously of who would do the most with the same 100 targets. So I think the opportunity is there. >> Here was the, what I was thinking of. So it was actually Bob Papa on with B-Mitch and Finley, I think today, here on 106/7 the fan. Bob Papa is the Giants play by play broadcaster, New York guy. And he said, Dan Quinn is the defensive coordinator and Dallas went 6 and 0 against the Giants. Cool. Is Michael Parsons coming with him? Do we get him or we don't? Like, with all the respect to Dan Quinn's numbers as the coordinator of the Cowboys against the Giants, I'm not sure how that's relevant to now with this bad group that he's got here. Did anyone watch Dallas's defense this past weekend without him when they shoved it on the Browns, number two in the NFL going into this week. He had some dudes on that defense that now Mike Zimmer has and all of a sudden Mike Zimmer is going to be a hot head coach in Canada when he turns his hat backwards because he's the awesome defensive coordinator in the NFL with the top five defense generating all the takeaways. So I'm not pretending like Dan Quinn doesn't have an idea of how to stop the Giants. He obviously does, but do you have the horses to execute the plan? I mean, that's what we need to figure out. >> Yeah, Jack Del Rio. It's a pretty good defensive track records and all of a sudden he couldn't do it. I don't know. Just it's interesting to me. That's all. But yeah, I mean, benefit that out still that there, that there will be improvement. I don't know how much. I think that's where the fun debate will be. >> Grant and Danny with you on the fan. 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