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Beltway Blitz, Who Are You Most Disappointed w/ From Week 1?

9.10.24 Hour 3

1:00- Nats- Bobby Blanco, NFL- Benjamin Brown, Commanders- Kevin Sheehan

17:00- As the Commanders lost 37-20... who disappointed you the most in week 1?

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What a treat to have Mark Rippin on the show here on Grant and Danny just a few minutes ago If you missed any part of the conversation make sure you podcast it when we are done at the fan DC.com We're out at 1757 golf course today for a wonderful event good cause the Heroes being remembered and the wounded warriors benefiting from many former Legends here in Washington sports and football getting together you listen to Grant and Danny sponsored as always by our friends the law firm Condorian Murad you can guide you and your family in the right direction help you to draft a will set up a trust We'll create a power of attorney schedule a free consultation with our buddies Condorian Murad and one of their estate planning attorneys at km lawyers calm be sure to tell them we sent you get a discount Km lawyers calm. We're going to cover the NFL and the commanders on the blitz But let's start on the diamond with the Nationals Bobby buonco mass and sports calm the Braves in town to take on the nats over at Nationals Park tonight 6 15 pregame here on the fan 6 45 first pitch Bobby. What do we need to know about Atlanta at Washington? Well, I think it's a good thing to point out that the Nationals have already won the season series against the Braves this year That's the first time they've done that since 2017 Of course Atlanta's been the class of this division for the past seven shows season the world series Ringing there and a lot of division titles, but you know, they've gone through a bunch of injuries this year So this isn't the Braves team that we've teamed Dominate this division over the past couple of years. There's still a potent lineup, you know because Igor's gonna have his work cut out for him tonight But it's not the same team that has dominated this national team for a while now and they've already won the season division The season series and the Braves are now looking to maybe miss the playoff for the first time since 2017 So then that can kind of play spoilers to someone who has been the class of the NL East for a while now Yeah, you'd certainly hate to see the Braves miss the playoffs thinking Yeah, I'd probably just be the worst I'd be upset all over the place if it was the Nationals fault that that were to happen You mentioned Mackenzie Gore Do I mean I'm doing the thing where I peek out Taking that their sunlight before the invisible force punches me in the nose for the millionth time, but did Mackenzie Gore turn the corner here? You would hope so and I think a lot of the signs are pointing to that he has His velocity is up. He is mixing his pitchers really well I know facing the Marlins is different than you know facing the Braves tonight But he did carry a perfect bid Into the sixth inning last time out against the Marlins and an eventual loss that was not his fault He pitched really well against them and he had pitched well against the Braves this year I think it's gonna be his fourth time seeing them and he pitched the quality start I think a close close enough every single time so yeah, hopefully he gets back on track finishes in season strong He's probably got three or four starts remaining in the year Like I said the velocities back up on his fastball. He's a mixing in all of his pitches his change up look really good In Miami, so maybe that's something to build off of as well But he doesn't need a strong finish these last three starts have been very encouraging. Hopefully these next three are just as encouraging Bobby since James would get called up on July 1st He's got 41 batted balls over 105 miles an hour fifth most in the league ninth most in all of baseball He's hitting 561 on those 41 batted balls And he actually leads the National League in his fifth and Major League Baseball with a 417 on base percentage since July 27th What have you made of James Woods rookie season? I Think he's everything that made him the number one prospect in the sport and he's made them You know, why the Nationals made him the crown jewel of that one photo trade now Obviously, there are a bunch of pieces that came over. You know you just talk about Mackenzie CJ And then a couple pieces left in the minor leagues But what James would was the number one prospect in that and he's been the top prospect in the sport for over the past year And we're seeing why all those underlying metrics. I mean, I think his command of the strike zone has been as been fantastic That was the big worry coming into this season. Can you keep the strikeout down? I know he has a good amount of strikeouts, but he is still just a rookie He's Troy. He's walking at a decent pace as well And we you we talked about to before like how he's getting kind of punched out on some tough calls and not getting the right call I think that he has a great eye in that strike zone And I think he's only gonna get better there so you know top marks for James Wood in his third first 60 games plus rather He finishes out the season Bobby. Thank you as always, bro. Yes. Thanks guys. We will see you my friend hit that NFL sounder deres Our guy Benjamin Brown joins us to talk about the NFL bet I'm gonna give you a couple of teams who lost in week one and you tell me if this is Just a fluke in week one or if it's a sign of bad things to come. All right, we're gonna start here since Sanaddie So I would say with with the bingles. I know we see the same song at the end of every year I think ever really poor EPA on week one type games always kind of start off the eye in the eight ball But in saying that I do kind of feel this underlying tone that this could be different Obviously losing to what I would want the subject to be though, you know, the worst team in football in week one Kind of gives up a lot of hope on that, you know, really soft schedule that they had going forward So although I was you know a firm believer in them kind of be spotted in a positive 2024 direction I very much think that you know, this is a pretty detrimental loss as big as you could potentially have in week one And they very much kind of need to figure it out and get together quickly I would say in order to kind of keep pace in the AFC North and the greater AFC at large. All right two more Atlanta I also think this is kind of a you know a similar vein of thought where in the point where you know I think a lot of people are impressed with what they could put forth on paper in some ways everything coming together quickly You know, what's it's all expectation? I know the Pittsburgh students really good But I think overall only putting up 10 points not a lot of production and any sort of bad to the play I Think the clear indication coming out of week one is that the Buccaneers of the team to beat me And I see cells and I very much think that the Falcons have a long Hill decline in order to kind of get back into relevancy and potentially even win that division So I think overall they're probably the team that I shipped about the most, you know going into week one to kind of come in Out of week one here and last one Cleveland I think you know, obviously what happens at the quarterback position is very much going to determine their outcome I think that again I am kind of buying into what we saw in week one overall at that the defense was a little bit Probably overvalued from a betting market standpoint and there still was this wide question of what Sean Watson could actually be Very much the downside taste for the Sean Watson that that is the case, you know They are you know sending up outside to be the fourth best team in the AFC North And I wouldn't be surprised whatsoever if they end up finishing in that position Ben, would you make it the Dak Prescott contract on Sunday morning? It was in treating timing. I know we have kind of talked last week. It was a situation that you know I felt like if they did resolve You know, it's going to be something that could actually, you know, speak to them actually being that you know having things in the right Train of area for you know the 2024 season I think the news and when it came out was kind of weird I think in some ways it was something that maybe was agreed to beforehand and they kind of held it close to the best for a Little while, but I think overall, you know dominating performance in the Dallas Cowboys You know the whole narrative of them, you know seemingly being a somewhat disarray I think is you know at least alleviated with both the CD lamb and Dak Prescott extension It does seem like the continuity aspect of what they're trying to build There's a foundation there and I very much think that they could be the team to beat me in the NFC East because of the fact that they kind of have You know the long-term outlook with both Dak and CD in place for sure. Why we're passing numbers down so long week one It's it's a good question. I think in some ways, you know, there were still some explosive plays But overall, I think you know, there was really only a few teams with a higher than average ADOT I do think just in starting off, you know, especially in the trenches like defenses seem to You know, at least be able to kind of just go and create chaos really on the season I think get more refined from an offensive standpoint I know it's not a trend that we you know see hold year in and year out But I think overall it does seem like just from a league wide standpoint You know defense started this a little bit ahead of the curve But I think there will be a response, you know happening quickly and week two and I do think we're gonna see you know Totals and the passing in kind of spike here relatively quickly Benjamin, thank you. We appreciate you Thanks guys. I'm a great show - but you got it. Let's talk football locally And to help us talk about the commanders, we got our buddy Kevin she and of the Kevin she and show Their big takeaway from the offensive performance in week one was Oh, man Jaden Daniels mobility not that it was a surprise But that you know given kind of a game context and the fact that the defense couldn't get off the field you know, he tried them to make a lot of plays primarily with his legs and That was exciting Hopefully the rest of it will come around it was one game And I really am a big fan of Brian Robinson, Jr And I'm looking forward to see what he looking forward to seeing what he can do this year Kevin What's your thoughts on this when when Mike Shanahan and company were out of football for their you know They're a little sabbatical hiatus. We want to call it they came back with this revolutionary offense and designed this Thing for Griffin and change the league to a degree Cliff Kingsbury is out of football I mean he's in college, but he comes back and it's the exact same Cliff Kingsbury offense through week one It seems like that we saw previously with him in Arizona It's a lot of I hope the quarterback makes a play for me. What'd you make of him in week one? I don't want to overreact, but I'm kind of overreacting Yeah, I mean I think that's the biggest mistake we make every year is overreacting to the biggest head fake week of the season Which is week one. I mean, you know, you look at what he did in the best season in Arizona they were very much reliant on James Connor and Chase Edmonds and You know certainly a quarterback who I would not compare to Jaden Daniels primarily because of the size. I mean Collar more Collar Murray is a little guy that really does Need to move around create passing lanes fine spots off schedule I'm confident that they'll come up with something I I think in hindsight and kind of looking back at Sunday and just kind of watching things a little bit more There weren't a lot of people open when there were I thought I definitely thought Jaden could have pulled the trigger a couple of times Bailed a couple of times the second Nate early in the third quarter kind of went backwards in the pocket Which was reminiscent of Griffin, you know at times which I did not like at all. He got hit you fumbled They recovered the fumble and there were definitely people open on that play But I need to give it a couple of weeks here More than a couple just to see what they do. We all kind of had concerns about their skill position players, especially at wide receiver Just like we had concerns about corner on defense. So they're gonna have to figure out ways to scheme around it I also would not be surprised if we look back at week one say in week 10 and Realize they played a pretty good team, especially defensively But I'm not overly worked up or were concerned about anything that I saw on Sunday I think I would be in the same boat with you in that week one is just the ultimate Misleader right it is a deceiving week a lot of the time Having said that I do think this was a super disappointing debut for the Quinn regime and Especially for the defense where you know Danny yesterday we argued about this a little bit But he's like oh well, you know the defense was the worst in the league last year What do you expect? I mean if you take John Allen and Iran paint out of the equation There were three guys from last year's defense basically on the field as starters I expected just a little bit more and at least maybe expect it's the wrong word But hoped that some of the holdovers with better coaching would get off to a faster start even though I realize it is just four quarters Yeah, I agree with that that was for me and again. It's one week. It's a big head fake week It's a head fake week because they don't do anything in the summer Especially when you have teams that are so brand new and Washington might be the most brand new team in the league But the grant I agree with you because all offseason I thought you know You're getting a veteran staff a defensive head coach. You're bringing in veteran players that are familiar with the coaching schemes in many places in many cases whether to Wagner or Doran Armstrong or Fowler junior and I thought that there was a chance that that would turn around quickly And I still do think there's a chance it'll turn around quickly, you know I don't know if you guys talked about this, but one of the odd quirky things that happened Sunday is they were about the most effective defensive team in the league on first down and Then second third down were disasters, but they had Tampa in 9 second and 10 were longers in that game Which is a pretty advantageous down in distance for for second down and yet they were horrible On second and third down it was very disappointing, you know, the other thing too is I didn't think that there was this, you know Identity, you know that they talked about the secret sauce that they talked about all summer about You know this this these player traits and what they wanted to be and you can hold us to this I Didn't see the energy. I didn't see the you know the finishing You know, maybe chalk it up to a brutally hot day and a lot of confusion defensively certainly But it's only one game I'm not you know, there are no referendums for me on one game, especially week one But I do agree that I was expecting and still do expect a defensive turnaround That you know doesn't put it in the top 10 necessarily but you end up with a much different situation than you had last year And yet on Sunday. I felt like I was watching last year's defense You can see why we have Kevin Chino, right because it to be a great and Danny Guess you have to arrive violently know where your north is be where your feet are all of those things and you did it Kevin Thank you, buddy. 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Paulson At funny Danny, I will open up the phones on this 800 six three six one oh six seven and the MGM National Harbor listener lines are gonna be yours But Danny, I want to let you start Who are you most disappointed with from the commander's 17 point season opening loss with King's brain? It's not close for me This is you had time to learn you had time to study you had time to adjust right in his you know supporting role At USC last year wasn't the OC or it was kind of like this, you know special consulting assistant type guy, etc This was the time to study what makes you know your system vulnerable the time to figure out what you can do better What you would do differently you've known it's going to be Jayden Daniels for a long time What what needs to happen to maximize and protect in this office and they didn't do that So to me the guy that was kind of out now is brought back in who had time to kind of reinvent himself Who's in the inner circles of some of the great offensive minds of our time right? The he's in that cool kids club with McVay and the floor and Kyle Shanahan and and everybody else There's a lot to study. There's a lot to pull from and it to me looked like Look Kingsbury's offense from a few years ago in Arizona where Terra McCorn's on one side not open Not available because there's no other weapons to worry about so defenses can key on him can bracket can cloud can do everything to bother him And not make him ineffective and not much interest in you kind of spread the ball around other playmakers The same complaints I had for years while this offense was terrible if I'm going to be terrible in offense I'm going down feeding Terra McCorn in my next best playmaker if my office is going to be bad enter week number one I cannot live with myself if deep into the third quarter There are two touches combined between Austin Echler and Terra McCorn. I can't it's something that drives me crazy If I'm gonna lose I'm going down that way They seem to content to not go down that way to hand it off to Brian Robinson to thump it in the line of scrimmage I just need my playmakers with the football. He didn't do that So I love that answer. It's an easy answer for me to think in top of my head He comes to mind first or second. I'll go in a couple different directions though Stay in the coaching vein for a moment Dan Quinn hmm Dan Quinn so many shades of Rivera in the game management in my opinion forget that it was a Just a fairly listless performance and you were down by 23 at the end of the game and the defense was a disaster Everything I just said sounds like a year ago, right? Huh? You couldn't stop a mediocre quarterback. Your secondary was getting torched by outside wide receivers I mean it was all shades of 2023 but One of the things I was really hoping for was that game management stuff would be a lot better And I did not think it was for one game not gonna make a huge deal of it We're just evaluating the one performance or were we disappointed by Dan Quinn There was a fourth and three at the 29 yard line early They decided to kick a 40-yard field goal with a kicker who had a bad, you know pre-season enough to not have made a roster And who wasn't kicking in the league last year. That's that's a go situation in my opinion fourth and three 29 yard line 2024 the year of our Lord. We're going there for that. That's pretty obvious to me intuitive didn't do it Had a situation later in the game. We had a chance to go for a two to cut a deficit to one possession He went from 10 to 9 with an extra point to keep it a two possession game Explained it after the game and talked about why he did that and we can get into the explanation Not a huge deal. I don't think it in and of itself standalone was the worst thing ever But it was just another scenario of kind of passive over aggressive right being just kind of a guy I was gonna let the game come to you rather than taking it to the game. I had four years of that I don't want more of that. I'm sorry. I'm just I'm over it and there were other situations along the way where Whether it was a fourth down decision or little things here or there. I'm going this feels like the last couple seasons So Dan Quinn not to mention and maybe this was where I was being unrealistic. I just thought That I would immediately see something different Fun about the defense like how they used guys and move guys and there'd be weird formations that I've never thought of They'd have guys standing up like all 11 guys are just standing over the mall or they're running in a circle before the snap Like the Chiefs do on offense, you know, it's some of that I'm doing stick, but like I thought we'd see something. Mm-hmm. We were sold all off season Him and wit they're different. They're better and I think they are in fact I know that this coaching staff is better than the last one. I promise and we all get that But you wouldn't have known it if you just turned on your TV at 1259 on Sunday And I think it's okay to acknowledge this is a process. It's gonna take time No one's saying you had to get it right in week one But if you're asking me who was I disappointed by in the first game Dan Quinn. Yeah It would have been it would have been nice to show some of it in week one Nobody's saying it's finished product again. This is a this is a team. I picked to go seven and ten Right the over-under for Vegas is six and a half depends on your book So nobody's predicting a world-beater here Everyone understands and it kind of the place and they're on their way and hopefully trying to build something and change culture and Do a lot of those sorts of things, but it would have been nice if some of the rhetoric match the play We are arriving violently and and and we don't want guys that they're not commanders And we moved on from somebody that granny didn't help Philadelphia very much in week number one in Johan Datsen, but for receiving core that had multiple guys untargeted by the way Why was Noah Brown inactive? We haven't talked about that. I know you know I mean it's like I want some of the the promising and I know they're at the podium for a lot of minutes and a lot of Questions are answering a lot of things. I just want some of it to match sometimes Look again, the team I always harked back to GP It's not one of the Super Bowl teams not who Mark Griffin was talking with us about but when Gibbs came back that first time Or the really for the second time right in 2005 or with 04 all the years run together Anyway, that team won one real good, but oh my god. They scrapped they thumped they beat you up They the next week you were probably losing because you were limping into the training room for the for the entire week That team grinded and competed and gave every ounce on the field you could tell and again They were limited they weren't great, but give me that if I'm gonna lose I can't be down 37 14 to Tampa Bay and now we're pretending that they're an elite team in the NFL and it's okay No, no, no, no, no, I can't have that I was perfect. I picked them to lose I even picked on the confidence points. I bet money on it for God's sake They would lose the game not like that not have the doors blown off So the defensive rhetoric when you hire defensive coach who brings his top defensive lieutenant with them From from from Dallas and they bring in a bunch of defensive players a defensive captain type guys in the Bobby Wagner's the Louvoo's of the world You bring in Jeremy Chin you wouldn't think it would be that bad It would just be nice if one time the rhetoric match the performance. I'll give you one more How about a manual Forbes? Now my expectations for Forbes were not overly strong or anything I think we mostly know what we're getting But there was a little part of me, you know, clary was joking yesterday about this voice in his head Well another voice where the voice in his head was telling him maybe the commanders are gonna be really good like if it works Right before kickoff He's like what if they just beat the bucks and jadon's a beast and you know, they're on their way to like 11 and six That little voice in my head on a manual Forbes was What if a lot of it was the coaching staff and usage and he just comes out here and picks a pass off and has four PBU's and looks Like a different guy what if and he did not do any of those things what he did do Was grab a guy's face mask as he ran past him for two penalties on one play Yeah for 30 yards worth of penalties on a PI and a face mask and got benched and also hurt I'm not trying to beat the guy up. There's enough people doing that, but it's hard not to say I'm disappointed Game one year two new regime. I went out to Ashburn and watch practices and interviewed him and he talked about last year's in the past I'm moving forward. You're gonna see a different version of me and I just kind of left that open to possibility And I'm still gonna give him a little more time But my goodness was that a bad first impression for year two. Yeah, the we talked about this yesterday just to a degree I can only have disappointment when I have expectations So in other words, if I got a kid who makes nothing but F's and he comes home with another F I'm not happy about it, but I'm not disappointed, right? But my a student who comes home with it with a D minus on the quiz because he didn't read the book or whatever now I'm disappointed. I got no disappointment left for Emmanuel Forbes. I already gave it the office I last year's my disappointment here that he's not Christian Gonzalez or he's not, you know An offensive player or a lineman or somebody that could help them I'm kind of resigned So if he plays well if he does the thing that you're several prognosticate or even hope for that he's legitimately that he belongs in the NFL That's me. He's a bonus and I'll I'll trade it accordingly, but yeah I but I hear that one to ignore the fact that he didn't play well to the point that he got benched for yet again It's hard to ignore that. I was just hoping to see signs of life I get it and I was hoping to see maybe some growth and improvement Peters came on the show a weeks ago, you know, really backed him and said we like the Way he's developed and how much better he's gotten and perhaps we'll see that and it's coming But it certainly didn't against the Bucks Question is yours right now on the MGM National Harbor listener lines 806361067 who are you most disappointed in after that week one lost by 17 points to Tampa? Austin Echler in 20 minutes grant and Danny with you on the fan Grant and Danny on the fan welcome back out to the course of 1757 and Ashburn off wax pool by where the commanders train We told you there were some dignitaries and celebs roaming around today We just had mark ripping on the show make sure you podcast that at the fan DC calm And right now we are joined by one of the most iconic sports voices in this town's history The guy that made me a wizard's fan Steve Buck answer. Well, you'll be podcasting this as well. We will be yes podcasting Our producer setting up YouTube right now. Wow. I can see you. That's the real deal here I mean, this is not some rinky-dink operation when you join the ground You guys don't play around let's go number six market buck my worst job You could yell further than the signal was you know, but this is better. It's been too long. You look great Thank you in the clubs today. How you been I've been fine. I've been good a lot of fun playing with these guys you know the name of the tournament is the heroes and legends and The guy these guys are heroes. You know, I mean what we do is you know knuckle-headedness these guys are real heroes Protecting the country and doing what they do and it's this guy right here killing it Killing it. Are you staying? Okay, great to see you man all these naval Academy guys and in fact, he played football his name is Ford Higgins He played center for Navy that was the center. That was a look like a senator. That's annoying to me box. 70 pounds. Yeah He lost and he showed me pictures of him when he played at Navy and he was a big well, of course He was yeah, and you know, and then I did Navy for seven years on the radio So we were talking about Army Navy games and how special it is and all of that and it's just these guys are fabulous By the way that game's coming to it's so weird to say North West stadium What stadium is it Northwest? It's not commander's field anymore. It was until about three weeks ago. They got some naming rights Change it every week. Yeah, I'm gonna call it the X Danny calls it nubs fields field It's just that the stadium. You don't want to be at but it's the yeah, exactly that game is I've been there the pageant tree It sounds you know cliche to say but no, it really is an emotional incredible thing. It's unbelievable. I try to go every year now It's great. It's it's hard to explain it to people and and he and I were talking about it whether for me You know blessed to broadcast the game, but but for him to play in it I just said to him, you know, what is that like where you're literally beating the hell out of each other for three hours? And then you go stand with these guys that you're gonna go to battle into battle with in two weeks or whatever and to be to do those games The hair on the back of your neck stands up I mean it is dramatic because you're representing you know our military both every side of it So it's really a fabulous game to do. What do you make now as a guy? It's been around and been so associated with DC sports for so long What are you gonna make of our current landscape? Just give me a big 30,000 foot view picture whether it's teams fans engagement the whole nine yards Where are we at right now? I was having a tough time quantifying. Yeah, it is difficult to quantify it because we will always be a Transient sports town because of Washington DC. You got people from New York come in here They come from all over. We still have our hardcore fans obviously, but we will always We'll always be in a situation where we go to a a nats game or a wizards game And it's unheard of now to go to a commander's game I say now in the last 15 years and have more fans from the other team there You know when you go to a nats game against the Phillies there are more Phillies fans there and it sickens me Wizards games whether it was the nicks the Lakers the Celtics or whatever team Right more of those fans and it nauseate me, you know cuz I grew up here So it really made me and when I grew up here to DC stadium then RFK stadium That never happened there were never stealer. No, there was never anybody else from the other team there No Steelers fans. No Cowboys fans all of that. So that's always gonna be Unfortunately who we are even though we want a world series. We want a Stanley Cup We've won three Super Bowls and we won an NBA championship. It's always going to be that way having that said The football team just makes it so challenging for us because as much as we love the caps who are perennial winners You know the wizards we deal with you know the nats Rebuilding as much as we love all those teams and and the mystics and everybody else This is a red skin town. This is a football town and we are waiting for this thing to turn around and sadly It's been what 20 wins it was 91 was our last Super Bowl. Yeah 33 years I mean there are having 11 games since there are young people that really that don't know we we had a good football team here Well, I'm 36 my earliest memory of the football team is 1994. Okay now again I've got three kids in a mortgage. You know what I'm saying like that we just talked to Mark Rippen Yeah, I never see Mark Rippen play. I mean I was a baby in a diaper. Yeah, I don't remember it But I've seen the highlights. I mean I know all about Mark Rippen Yeah, my mom and dad have told me all about all of it sure But I mean it's not like I'm 20, right? I'm almost 40. No well and and and I am Substantially older than you and covered those teams and was blessed to cover what I call the glory years the Joe Gibbs years and and rip and all of those guys and So back then and again, it's hard to explain this to young people But back then not only did you expect to go to the playoffs you you know The Super Bowl was a legitimate reality every year and it hasn't been that way since like say for 30 some years and it's hard to explain that to people and What kills me about us and it's not just ours our city. It's every city in July and August when we get going You know with training camp and no TAs and all that stuff you you glom on to whatever positive you have a couple of years ago We were supposed to have the best defensive line in football. Well, that didn't happen and then last year You know guys are picking seven and nine or whatever the you know, we win four games This year we got a new quarterback who's a Heisman Trophy winner You got this guy and that guy and this guy and maybe we'll get Better as the season goes along, but that game the other day was not anything It's rebuilt their rebuilding Charlie. Yeah, but it was that was a tough watch Steve Buckance on Grant and Danny I want to sneak in kind of a nerd broadcaster thing here as someone who loves play-by-play and studies it wants to do more and more of it Where do you think we're headed in the industry? I've always said I think radios fairly safe although during COVID some team stopped traveling their broadcasters Which I hated but the local element we're spoiled with some really good groups here including Charlie and Dave right here on the fan Absolutely every night for the nats, but the local RSN's and the TVs I grew up you and Phil were More important for me than most of those wizards teams and the same thing currently still with Joe B and locker Yeah, like where are we headed do you think and I don't mean in DC, but globally like 15 20 years from now is it I'll accord on an app I mean is our broadcast teams are are we keeping and paying guys that can be around for 30 years like how does that gonna work? Well, I don't know if I can answer the question because I can't see 15 years into the future I don't know what technology is gonna be like. I see how it's changed to a certain extent But for the for basically it's the same you have your hometown broadcasters and as you said We have some of the best really in the country. I mean, there's nobody better than Joe B and locker Charlie and Dave on the radio are fantastic You know Dave Johnson doing the Wizards games with Glenn concert, you know, I'm talking radio right now I see TV with you Joe B and locker and and the Redskins of the commanders are Network guys, right the radio, you know with You know everybody with Brahmin and those guys is also great We've we've got you've looked at some of the broadcasters that have come out of this area. Oh, yeah James Brown Tim Brandt Tony Roberts. I mean I can go on and on Scott Van Pelt obviously who was my intern at channel 5 Gus Johnson was my intern at channel 5 We've got some great guys that have that have gone on to do what they do. I don't you're always gonna have a TV broadcast I think I mean maybe maybe it'll be different, but I think you're gonna have a TV broadcast and it's gonna be on somebody's Network whether it's Ted who bought NBC Sports, Washington and it's now monumental sports or it's Masson or whatever there's gonna be an outlet for it. I would think on TV somehow and there's always gonna be radio So those guys are always gonna be around. I just don't know how the the visual medium might change But I think you're always gonna have to watch it somehow and listen to it somehow. Don't you think I think so for sure? I mean, especially I just don't know how you'll get it like in other words There are now teams where the only way to to watch trying to think of it was the nicks who did this first But basically is like a lot cart you could do a game like six bucks for that game a month for these games And it's more on an app, you know, rather than a true RSN I think a baseball where a lot of I can't remember which one of diamond. I think it was Valley yeah, they went under so MLB took over and basically streams the games and runs everything through their own Offices. Yeah, it's just it's a changing landscape and I can't help but wonder, you know, what's it look like in 10 years? I think what's changed more in my lifetime has been local sports on TV. Oh My gosh, yeah, I mean it's nobody has local sports. Yeah, we do. I mean we have guys, you know four users obviously, you know, but JP and 7s Scott and he's good and and nine now has chick doing what he does going sort of full circle and coming back to doing What he's doing but back in the day before there was really? I mean there was ESPN, but back in the day I say my day with Glenn Berenner and George Michael and Frank Herzog and all the weekend guys You got your sports. You got your Redskins coverage from us You didn't get it from ESPN or some app on your phone You got it from the local guys doing sports at channel 4 George Michael used to get more time than anybody in the country to do sports On a Monday after a Redskins game and they measure the time in blocks from six to seven So six fifteen six thirty six forty five he would get the entire final block from six forty five to seven. That's unheard of that's 15 minutes They'd have a commercial in between there. That's unheard of Glenn would get whatever he needed seven eight nine minutes on a Monday It was outrageous. You didn't see that in any other market in this country and of course You don't see it now now guys are getting two minutes. Maybe two and a half whatever one I like I mean, but they're like channel 5 is gonna come they don't have us like sports, right? They have like news people read the four four to the same four used guys from up from our you know Comcast sports net right to do stuff Well now our our guy JP, but is right freelancer who goes in and does exactly exactly it used to be there were departments And that's not a word. Oh, we had a great sports department at channel 5 And I had so many guys come through there as I mentioned Van Pelven and and and Gus and chick Right and then all of our producers Ernie Bauer and Joe Yashroft and Frank Chris Opoli and Larry Duvall And I'm you know go on and on and on and name these guys and then you know after I left you have You had Brett Haber for a year or two then Dave Feldman came, you know guys that are legitimately great sports cars now Our buddies like Heather McDonough does six people job right occur when the photographer is like at nine Hey, George's thing listen back in those days, you know when he had the sports machine You can't do a show like that unless you have the full support. Luckily there an NBC. Oh, no They're an owner owned an operated station So if they're gonna put on a half hour or an hour show whatever sports machine was you have to have full support of the network You can't just half acidly do that show you got to have the full support so it was him and Wally Bruckner and you know Scott before that and That was a great show because they produced it the right way So they had some we used to kid, you know George would have like six interns watching satellites to give him the best video that he could have and I was lucky to have one Intern to watch five games, you know, but they've got you got what you got and then Glenn of course was the best I ever saw and in any market and I've been in 30 markets seen 30 markets traveling with the wizards Never seen anybody like Glenn Brenner He was somebody that I would urge our fans if you if you don't know who he is or you haven't seen him You don't know about him Google him and he had this town, you know By the past. Yeah, you know, he he was something and when he passed away We all I mean everybody let every station led the newscast with it It was phenomenal and he was the literally the funniest guy and not trying to be funny He was just naturally funny and when we would go to Carlisle to cover the Redskins They would be out there practicing and all the sports guys would stand on a tarmac and tell jokes But Glenn would have you on the ground laughing. He was the funniest dude I've ever seen on TV Legitimately him and Gordon Peterson were the absolute best and you'll never see that again in any market. He was the best buck It was great reminiscing good talk man. You too guys. I love listening to you guys Mr. Barkley nice job. That's the buckhand Austin Echler of the commanders joins us next on GND