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Hall Of Fame Tony Gonzalez Joins G&D, Our Grades For Jayden Daniels

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1:00- Tony Gonzalez, Hall of Fame TE and FOX analyst, joins G&D to discuss all things NFL and the slow starts in week 1.

21:30- We give our grades for Jayden Daniels week 1 performance against Tampa.

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09 Sep 2024
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So really it was more like a 130 yard or so performance through the air, which we've talked a lot about. One of a bunch of issues, the easiest to fix, or at least the one you can most quickly act on was kicker and they did today. They did that. Cade York has been released. They have decided to sign according to various reports, Austin cybert who kicked in just one game and had two field goal attempts, three extra points last NFL season. It was a member of the Detroit Lions when Lance Newmark was there. So there's some familiarity with him within this front office. But the reason for cutting Cade York was not just that he struggled in week one. They would have had to send their seventh round pick that they traded for York to the Browns as of this coming week. If he kicked in a second game, it was conditional on the condition that York kicked in two football games. So by cutting him today, they actually don't lose a pick in that trade. - So if he was the dude, they would have just kept him. But it was pretty clear he wasn't the dude. They replaced him with Cade York, just via a different name in their minds, I think probably, right? Like if York had been outstanding, made both his field goals and not kicked the ball out of bounds and did exactly what they wanted on kickoffs and whatever else, or however else they grade, had he been excellent and been dominant in practice as well. They probably wouldn't have kept him and gone through this. That said, he was shaky enough that they said, you know what? We could fill this void in a slightly different way and maybe not lose that much and try to, you know, we'll keep riding this carousel. - You gave a game ball way, way earlier today to Jamie Davis. We have not talked about him really at all, but even though he didn't play a lot, Jamie Davis had a TFL in the backfield that he blew up for a run stuff for minus four, I think it was. And he made two very noticeable plays in short order early in the ball game. His transition and defensive end is going pretty well, I would say. Now, whether or not he can consistently rush the quarterback and get home and actually generate some pressures and some sacks is how we're going to determine eventually whether or not it's a sustainable thing and him staying there and staying in this organization at that position is a worthwhile endeavor. But for a guy that was on the bubble at the start of camp that people were saying may not make the team, I still like what I see pretty consistently now between the preseason and the very small sample early in week one from Jamie Davis learning a new position. - So I will give this staff credit in this regard. One of the things that's always frustrated me about bad organizations versus good ones, and this has certainly been a bad one for a long time, is it's always, you know, this guy, somebody has to fit into what we do or let's focus on what they can't do. Instead of finding what they can do. I mean, my example is always the Ravens. They always find somebody where like Terrell Suggs, for example, slipped in the first round. Well, his 40 time was bad. They said, we don't care. We'll find something that he can do. And he's one of the best, best pass rushers ever. For Davis, there was a lot of struggle trying to get him to do certain things at certain times in certain places. It's not an insult, it's hard to do some of those things. If it's not what your natural skill set is, trying to overcome certain stuff. He's good at not having to think too much and reacting quickly and using his quicks and speed. He's good at that. So put him at defensive end. Now, you know, you play the Tennessee Titans of a couple of years ago with Derek Henry, you know, running off tackle that way. You probably don't want to put him out there for 50, 60 snaps, trying to hold the edge. But if the game is get up field, young man, he could do that. - A T is talking about the rookie class. Jaden Daniels is obviously the headliner. We've talked quite a bit about him and we're going to grade his performance and really dive elbow deep into Daniels coming up at 525, about 15 minutes from right now. We'll both assign the first grade of his season after game one. But otherwise, Johnny Newton did not play, still unavailable, the defensive tackle. Mikey Sandra still had a very rough first game. Sandra still the nickel cornerback, who we were told had a great camp. Struggled with Chris Godwin, obviously, inside a corner. But a couple of things that stood out. One, Brandon Coleman played 14 of 59 snaps. So Cornelius Lucas at left tackle played 45 snaps, but actually thought Coleman looked athletic and pretty big and there was nothing noticeably bad there. That's encouraging. Also, Luke McCaffrey played a lot more than I thought he was going to. And actually got targeted on and caught three balls for 18 yards. Nothing sexy from him, but he was pretty sure-handed, looked fairly physical after the catch as well. Did you think Luke McCaffrey would play this much? - I wasn't sure how they would handle it honestly. But second most snaps, I believe among receivers behind Tara McCorran. So I think maybe the value was a blocker a little bit, right? Just a little bit more physical in the outside and some of their smaller guys. - We know they love blocking it wider. - And that was kind of my thought there. I thought you'd see maybe more D'Amie Brown than McCaffrey. But yeah, I mean, I think McCaffrey's versatility helped him stay on the field in a few more packages as well. - He's not a rookie, but that was the next guy that's worth bringing up at receiver. So much talk about the D'Amie Brown in camping in the preseason to the point where the hype was, is he gonna be number two on this team in receptions? In fact, I had to fill out this little survey that someone gave me about the 2024 commanders. And the question that I had the hardest time with, who's gonna be the second most targeted wide receiver other than Terry McCorran? And I wrote Alamede as the key is his name and I crossed it out and I wrote D'Amie Brown. I crossed it out, I'm thinking Noah Brown. And I went back to and kind of settled on D'Amie who ended up being targeted once and not catching a pass in the game. He was just completely unheard of. But he ran around a lot. I mean, you go back, as I said, I watched the all 22 today. He's out there for a lot of routes. And Terry McCorran actually, partially because of the go balls, where he ran the sprint 50 yards downfield, he missed a handful of snaps, which isn't always the case. A lot of the time, he's on the field for almost-- - He was just over 80% to your point. - When you're getting the cardio that he normally does, he missed, I would say, somewhere around like eight to 10 snaps or something, which was a lot of two receiver sets where they use Zacchaeus and Brown. Sometimes it was Crowder that was out there. But no one really stood out, but particularly D'Amie Brown, I thought he was whisper quiet. - Absolutely. Again, I think the physicality to be a blocker on the outside is something that they're looking for in valuing, but I don't know how open he's gonna be. - Grant and Danny with you on the fan, pleased right now to get to talk to a Hall of Famer, a 14 time pro bowler and a six time all pro, one of the greats in the history of the league with 1,325 catches, one of the best tight ends to ever play, Tony Gonzalez joins us now, right here on the fan to make some sense of what we saw this weekend and to get ready for the kickoff of the third season of Thursday night football on prime video. Tony's a big part of their crew at the desk pre and post. Tony, you're on in DC. Thanks for the time. How are you? - I'm doing well, I'm doing well, what's going on? - We're a little bit bummed from a week one result here in Washington, but you know, honored upward, I suppose. Just big picture on the league, Tony. It seems like week one of the last couple of seasons has been really topsy-turvy, a lot of unexpected things. I know it's a league that thrives on that, but have you felt that? What's your explanation if you buy it? - Well, definitely I've been able to staff the proof that you need. I mean, yesterday was one of the worst, offensive outputs in the last 10, 20, whatever the years is what I was reading. And I think a lot of it comes down to these guys, nobody plays in the preseason anymore. Back when I was back in my day, that's what you did. You played in every single preseason game, except I'm really, sometimes where the last one, especially if you're an older guy, but the third preseason game, which would be the second preseason game now since only up three, you played into the third quarter. I mean, you're getting your timing down, you're getting that rhythm down, and everybody needs it. No more than, no more so than the offensive line. I think that has a lot to do with it. You saw a lot of holes, a lot of defenders getting after the quarterback, because you don't have that continuity. And then guys out there in the receiving, the timing, the game speed, you can't duplicate it. I'm carrying by joint practices and all that stuff. You know, nobody's gonna hit you in those situations. It's good, but it's not great work. And I think you're seeing that, but don't get it right. That's the thing about it. It's NFL, give them two or three weeks, and then they'll start to hit that form and start to get that rhythm. And that timing will come. And you'll start seeing the points go up. You'll see big games out of these receivers. Tony Gonzalez on GND. Yeah, just to back his point up there with some numbers, unless the Jets and Niners combined for 672 yards in this game, it's gonna be the lowest passing yardage output week one since 2010, which is gonna break last year's output as the lowest in that stretch. And in fact, passing touchdowns in week one, from 2019 through 2022, we saw 61, 52, 61, and 51 passing touchdowns in week one. There were 33 so far in week one with one game to play. So just a massive fall off in production to accentuate Tony's point. Here in Washington, we saw speaking of changes in the league. These starting quarterback scramble 11 times and run 16 times in Lamar Jackson. Both did that in week one over 17 games. That would get you over 270 attempts that would make you number two in the NFL behind Derek Henry in rushing attempts last year, which obviously isn't the plan with the 210 pound quarterback. But what do you make of Jaden Daniels running that much in his pro debut yesterday? Well, you know, you look at all these quote on quote, running quarterbacks, when anything gets unsure, when anything is in doubt, they use their leg. It's been something they've done since they've played pop one of football. First I never put some cleats on and some shoulder pads and played the quarterback position. They're thinking, okay, I can always rely on my leg, easy. And so you put a young guy out there, pocket breaks down, not sure about a read, take off. And you have the ability to do it. And he does, he has the ability to do it. Now, the first side of that is you might get hurt. You look back at the film, you're like, man, I actually have guys open it. If I could just wait a little bit more, I think you become a victim to your athleticism. And that's why it's tough for these running quarterbacks. It's to be a really, really good dual threat guy. It is extremely, extremely tough. And I know, if I'm playing, if I'm playing with a guy who's a quote on quote running quarterback, I'm gonna tell him, hey man, give me some time. Let me get open, I can work for you and make it easier on you. But I'm not surprised by that, a young quarterback dating. He's doing what he does, that's what he does. But he's gotta get better. You gotta take that off the table for a lot of different reasons. It shows that when Super Bowls hasn't overlapped, whatever, it's a long time. When is the last time a pure, like a running quarterback won the Super Bowl? It doesn't work in the long term. And just look at the March accent. You can be great all season, get MVP, but you gotta be able to swing that rock in the pocket. And I'm sure he'll fall, but keep figuring that out. - Great, Tony Gonzalez with us here. On Grant and Danny, Tony, take wherever you want, team, player, anything in between. Who impressed you most here in week number one? - Who impressed me most? (laughs) You know, I'm not gonna be a homer here. Probably people are gonna say I am, but I really liked what the Chiefs did. I thought them going out after last year, obviously winning the Super Bowl, and the weakness is your offense. And they went out there and got it. They were the two touchdowns. Two touchdowns. Rashid Rice looks better and ever. He's gonna be one of the best receivers in the league. Malcolm Brown wasn't even there. I just think offensively, and what they can do defensively with Chris Jones and McDuffie, Trim McDuffie, Nick Bolton, they have that same, pretty much that same defense back. I know a need is gone, but why would you pick against them? Why, there's no reason if they stay healthy, that they're gonna be even better than they were last year. The NFL, they're gonna be talking about the three feet all season long, right? It's already been talked about a bunch, and it's just gonna keep getting more and more, but they deserve it, man. That team, they look really, really good to me opening weekend. Thursday night, coming up in three days, prime video begins its third season, exclusive Thursday night football coverage. They got a great matchup, too. The Bills and the Dolphins in Miami, pregame coverage begins each Thursday night at 7 p.m. Eastern with TNF tonight. Tony Gonzalez is with us on Grant and Danny. How about that game? You're going to be at, for the Bills and the Dolphins, Buffalo survived a big time scare. They needed every productive yard and moment they could muster in the second half against the Cardinals to get a week one win. And same with the Dolphins. They laid an egg for about three quarters, and because of their explosiveness on offense, they were able to survive in advance and steal one from Jacksonville. Both those teams, despite being one and oh, probably going to go into week two, feeling like they didn't play their best football. - Yeah, they didn't. They didn't know about both those games. They did not look like this, but you thought they were going to look like. In fact, Miami, I'm convinced, if Holland, DuVon Holland doesn't punch that ball out, they're going up, they're going to go up what? By 17 at that point, they're going to go 24 to, to seven at that or whatever it was, 24 to three, I think. It would have been a almost insurmountable deficit for them to come back. Not that they can, obviously they got Tyreek and Jalen Watto. But that just changed momentum of that game, and that's what they needed, kind of sparked them, and they finally came to life. And I think through with Buffalo, the biggest thing is, my biggest takeaway from that game is, is there a good football team? There's no data. I think they're going to be a playoff team again. Everybody talks about their window closing. I'm not convinced it's closed. I think I see it maybe starting to shut, but I still think they can go out there and make a good playoff run, especially because they got a quarterback like they do. My thing is, can they keep them healthy? That's my takeaway. Let's make sure that he doesn't feel like he needs to put the team on his shoulders. And he's got to lean on some of these other guys, especially his tight end. You've got a big time tight end, Dalton Kinkade, who can run great routes. He reminds me of Travis Kelsey, as far as the route running and the smoothness and the getting out of the routes. They got to find ways to get him to ball, to alleviate some of that pressure off of Josh, because Josh, I can't see him doing what he did last week, all season long. It's just a matter of time before the guy like him gets hurt, which would be the worst thing to happen for that team. Turn to the other AFC's team. The Jets in action is not against San Francisco. How do you see that one going? And then how do you see that AFC is going? You know, the Jets, I think that's probably the biggest anticipation out of any, but leave for me, I know it is for me, because of what we call last year, all that hype going into the season last year, and then Aaron goes out there and gets hurt, whatever fourth player of the game. And so we've been chomping at the bit to see what this team can actually look like. Is Robert Saleh, is he really, is he a good coach, or is he a bad coach right now? I mean, if you're calling him a bad coach, maybe he should be fired and you're like, "Man, let's say how you do it when you lose your, you know, your hall of fame quarterback." So really looking forward to seeing what Aaron can do with that offense and that really good defense that they have there, the 49ers, best team, the top team at 1-2 to me in the NFC, my favorite to go back to both of them are Philly. I like the way they lost it as well. But the 49ers, John Lynch and Coach Shanahan, what they've done over the last couple of years, they continue to keep returring, they keep signing back their key players, that team is ready, they're gonna go out there. In fact, I think the 49ers are gonna win this game, but I'd like to see Aaron go out there and play well, like it's a really, really good defense. But I think just a storyline period, forget about who you're rooting for or not, but I would love to see the old man go out there and play well against that 49er defense and put the Jets in a position to win, although I think the 49ers are gonna take this one. - Jets, Niners kicks off in three hours tonight on Monday night football. Tony, before we let you go, last one, I mentioned, you know, I think for a lot of us, when we think about the tight end position, you're the first person that comes to mind being third all time and catches in number one at the position. Seems to me like, and you can correct me and tell me I'm wrong if you disagree, but Travis Kelsey, Mark Andrews, you know, some of the greats who have done it in this era are starting to wind it down a little bit. Maybe George Kittle's the transition guy between the two groups, but there's another wave coming now. Sam Laporta and Detroit might be the leader of the pack. How do you view kind of the state of the union at tight end at that position and who are some guys, maybe we should keep an eye on that you enjoy watching, they could be next. - Well, you said to those two guys, I think of the lead guys, Laporta, Dalton Kincare, he talks about him. These guys run great routes. Kind of the position has really evolved. It's not like when I was playing where you got to put your hand in the dirt in three yards and a cloud of dust, that old school Smash Mouth football power, running, running triple team to the blind backer. I hated doing it, but you had to do it, that was part of the position. So these guys were the flex guys, and they come in just ready. Catch and ball, last year with Sam Laporta did, was incredible to do as a rookie. I like those two guys. I like Brock Fowers. I watched him yesterday for the Raiders. He's gonna be special. I think he's gonna be a really, really good tight end receiving he can block through as well. Somebody that I've been waiting on. And I think with Kirk Cousins coming to the Falcons, Kyle Pitch, who had a thousand yards as a rookie, which is, I think he's going whenever to do it. Or since Mike Dica, he was the first one to do that. I didn't do that, Kelsey didn't do that. The Regrant didn't do that. He did it as a rookie. And then since then, he's almost fallen off. It seems like a completely different player. But he had a guy that I know very well then. He had Matt Ryan throwing him the football. And I think Kirk Cousins could resurrect this guy's career. Get him going, 'cause he's a unicorn. Athletically, six, six, 365 pounds. When he's a four, four, he can catch the ball outside of the frame of his body. There's all the little things that you want done out of a tight end. I think he's poised for a big year. In fact, I want to see it. It's kind of a make or break year as far as I'm concerned for him. Because that thousand yards, I was back then. I was like, man, this guy, oh, this guy might be on his way to being better than all of us. But I'd like to see him get back on track. - Tony, this is great, man. Really appreciate the time. - No, I think you've got me, guys. - It'd be good. We'll be watching you on Thursday night. There's Tony Gonzalez prime video, exclusive Thursday night home for football, again, all season for their third year now. With the pre and post, Tony will be on the set. Good conversation with him. Next, how do we feel about Jaden Daniels' first game? Let's get into the good, the bad from Daniels in his debut on G&D. (upbeat music) - The seasons may be changing, but the deals at the sharpest rides are unbeatable as ever. Hey, what's going on? It's your girl, Tasha McKeea. And I need you to join the sharpest rides for their fall into savings event, where they're offering incredible prices on their massive inventory. That's right, everything is on sale now. 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Toyota, let's go places. - I mean, I grade myself hard, we ain't winning, so, you know, I'm competitive, I like to win. But overall, and we're well, pretty well. There's some stuff that as an offense that we left on the field, we got to execute better, but, you know, that's where it's a long season. We're going to move on from this. - That's Jaden Daniels postgame yesterday. Welcome back, Grant and Danny on the fan. How would you grade Jaden Daniels in his pro debut? You can call us. Now we'll open up the MGM National Harbor listener lines at 800-636-1067. I think I have to give two grades. One, for him as a football player, the other, for him as a quarterback, or passer, I guess, is more like it. So as a football player, when I'm taking into account, 16 attempts, 88 yards, two touchdowns, 11 scrambles, getting out of some pressure, picking up first downs, the fourth in one naked, where he got to the sideline, like some of those things, that's an A. I mean, as a playmaker, as a football player, as a rusher, two touchdowns in his debuties, second quarterback to ever do that, there's a lot I like about that. As a passer, I think it was like a D performance. You don't involve wide receivers, you can't really get anything going. Mostly everything they completed was around the line of scrimmage. And I'm not blaming him solely. I'm not sitting here pretending like it was all his fault. It's an operational issue, but the operation wasn't good enough. And so as the QB, unfortunately, even in your debut, you wear some of that. But then if you combine everything, you know, the A and the D, you probably get like a C or a C plus or B minus or somewhere in that range, the borderline between the two. And that's probably where I am. I guess I will give him a C for his first ever game because he did some things that I really liked when it comes to making plays, showing his athleticism, being a football player, being a natural, you know, getting out of the pocket and running. But I'll just be honest, for me, from a passing standpoint, I didn't think there was a lot to like. - So C minus for me, echo everything that you said. The reason I'm not going down even more is these non-slide head-barreling roles. Helmet comes off, we're joking about that now too. Stuff, enough of that, whatever that is, enough of that. So the explosive plays through pressure not getting home is great. That should terrify defenses. I want that. What I want is an offense. This is the thing I dream of where no matter what you do, you should be afraid of something. You should know that you're going to get beat somehow. It's just a matter of me picking which place I want to beat your ass. That's not the case right now. They don't have that, but that's a long story. To me, some of those, there's nothing there. Defenders are heads, heads are turned. Boom, I can get to the secondary, start making some moves. Chunk yardage plays are happening this way. 15 yards, 17 yards, that one he tiptoeed down the sideline. It was brilliant. I'm all in favor of those things. Yes, please and thank you. Probably too many of those though, over the course of a game. Some of those need to be turned into big plays through the air as well, which Dan Quinn addressed, I think he will as time goes. Sometimes with those is, it's hard to see it when you're watching in real time and you see him get out of the pocket and pick up six. What you don't see until you go back and you watch is that potentially there was 18 on a throw. Or there was 46 over the top somewhere, right? Exactly, or even if there wasn't anything before he left the pocket, if you are of the mindset, which if I could put a chip in a quarterback and I'd make a champion this way, I promise you I would, it would be the chip, if you're Jaden Daniels, the ability to do what he does to get away from the pressure with the speed and that athletic trait. And now you just run into space and reset. That's what I'm, that's, that's the coaching point for me. Don't put your head down and run for five or eight or 11. Run into wide open space and now everybody is plastering and just spraying all over the formation to find anywhere that they can go and you're resetting and throwing. And there were going back and watching the old 22 of his 16 runs, I would say at least five, probably as many as seven times where if you're resetting there's something or, or before he decided to run, there was one play particularly where Terry McLaurin, very rare, six times he was in the slot on the left. He was motioned, the only time I saw motion the entire game by the way, which is another gripe I have with Kingsbury, just always know where Terry's gonna be lined up, but he was slot left and Terry McLaurin ran what was kind of like a deep post and he had his guy by a couple of steps. And it's not wide open necessarily, but it's NFL. - It's throwable, yeah. - It is NFL open. If you're waiting for Malik neighbors to be streaking behind everybody by five yards, it ain't happening up here very often, buddy. I mean, if Tyree kills your guy and your two, you'll get that all the time. But here, in these, these ports around this Byron Pringle, I guess he got cut already. But everyone else- - But that's the tier. - Everyone else is Byron Pringle, so let's say, Jameson Crowder, like these guys aren't doing that. Look, McAfee ain't leaving dudes in their dust early this season. So that's open. And he turned some of those things down. And that's kind of my thought is that the running stuff was great, but I don't want ever to see what I saw this weekend where it's all you've got, where the whole offense is the scramble. It's not fun. - And we're grating on what we saw, and I don't know whose fault everything is, and I don't know if you will ever truly know, but when I can see, and everybody misses throws every week, but that miss started the second half to MacLaurin. The first play to Brian Robinson. I mean, these are now 10% of the throws that he made over the course of the game that were either minus 15 yard glaring misses, or something else that wasn't there. So, overall, as a thrower, not particularly impressive. I think better days are ahead in that regard. I'm still such a believer in the player, but the scrambling stuff and the playmaking when there's not much there, I like that a lot. I like the threat, so overall, see minus for me. - Yeah, we're analyzing a game, not his career, right? This doesn't mean this is what he's always gonna be. We're talking about four quarters of football in a small sample, but 12 of 19 for 134 with three minutes to go before they go out there, and they go down the field against the Bucks Plan soft defense, and he goes 5 of 5 for 55. And at that point, 19 yards to receivers, it ended up being 55 total of 184. 12 pressures, he threw four times, and ran eight times when facing pressure, two to one ratio of just tucking the football and running. But the beautiful thing about it was the lack of sacks. I did really, really like that. The pressures weren't often turned into sacks, which is one of the concerns I had coming out of school, so he's one for one there. In terms of other passing numbers, if you wanna look at numbers, and again, these aren't just indictments on Jayden Daniels, these are indictments on Kingsbury, and the whole group, it's a team effort here. Average depth of target of 1.5 on completion's lowest in the league this weekend. 86% of passing yards came from yards after contact, highest in the NFL. So you're talking about the vast, vast, vast majority of whatever they got was after they catch, 'cause it was such a short throw, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it is a data point. 25% on an adjusted completion of 10 plus area yards. It was 104 on those throws. That was dead last among 30 quarterbacks. Zero middle of the field throws beyond 10 yards. Zero. There were 30 quarterbacks who have played so far. 27 of them through balls in that area. Three didn't, he was one of them. And like I said, one or two throws go differently. We probably have a whole different conversation. He hits that one pass to Terry McClure. Out of the half time on a 70 yard touchdown, maybe it's different, but when you're completed area yards is 30 if out of 30, intended area yards is 25 out of 30. Area yards to sticks is 29 out of 30. Expected completion is 29 out of 30. It's hard for me to say it was a great passing day. It just wasn't. And there's probably a lot of things that played into that. But we want to hear from you guys. It was definitely fun to see him make the box miserable running the football and to see that he's got that club in the bag. And there's going to be days ahead where he's going to be doing that while hitting some big time throws. And that is the dream, I would say. 800-636-1067. You want to grade Jaden Daniels for his debut on G&D. (upbeat music) (crowd cheering) (crowd cheering) (crowd cheering) (crowd cheering) - Back out of Daniels with the key. Ben is first touched down in the National Football League. And Jaden Daniels runs it in from two yards out for the touchdown. - The first of two rushing touchdowns for Jaden Daniels. Welcome back, Grant and Danny on the fan. Here's an incredible stat. You're getting together with buddies to watch Monday Night Football tonight. You're going out to the bar at some point this week or meeting up with somebody. Drop this, little trivia, this is great. Jaden Daniels became the second ever quarterback to rush for two touchdowns in his debut. Who was the other? And the answer is an all-time stunner. - So it's not Cam Newton or Robert Griffin or somebody who was a great running quarterback. - Let's go around the room. So you got Cam Newton. - Yeah, I mean, I know it's wrong 'cause that doesn't sound like a stunner to me. - All right, who do you got? Only other rookie quarterback ever to rush for two touchdowns in his first start. - Oh man, you said all-time stunner? - Well, you're not supposed to know that part, but yes. - It's going to be some number that ran to be snips or something. - Oh, no, it's me, oh man. - Danny's on it, by the way. - Who'd Danny say? - He just said it's a donk. - Oh, oh, it's a donk. I don't have nothing, that's weird. - Kenny Pickett. - Of course. - There we go. - Of course. - Kenny Pickett. - I did say number. - But anyway, I just think that's a fun little bit of trivia. But the question is, what grade are you giving Daniels? I'm going to go with a, I'll say a C plus. C minus for me. - Do you differentiate like I did, where I give him an A for making plays with his feet? - Yeah, I'm talking about the football player. I'm combining all the things. And my extra knocks below you are the head first diving everywhere, helmet falling off, turf in my helmet, ear-holing craziness that I can't have. - Two shots to the head on runs. And moments after, it was a couple plays after the broadcast, Moose Johnston was like, who need, maybe it was Kugler on the call. Who needs to slide when you can just fall forward? These idiots keep talking about him sliding all the time. Look at him, he's Lamar Jackson falling forward. He knows how to do it. Moments later, he falls forward. There's nowhere to go except for to get ear-holed, helmet to helmet, almost like occasionally, when defenders are oncoming, that's going to be a bad plan and a bad strategy. But this was Jaden Daniels talking about his helmet. Falling off two times, he seems to be okay with it. - You're with helmet pop-up. - Did that ever happen to you? - For sure, yeah, for sure. - That's why I used to eat? - Yeah, probably, I mean, I don't know, probably though. - Do you like to wear your helmet a little bit looser? - Yeah, yeah, I mean, a lot of people probably, they try to say there's something about that, but you know, I just, I was just playing football back there. You know, your helmet's going to pop off, no matter what, if you've got to buck it up tight or loose at the end of the day. - Your helmet's going to pop off. - No it isn't, I mean, I'm just thinking, and everyone gets so mad with comparisons, so forgive me. But the other guy that ran 16 times this week is Lamar Jackson. Do you remember his helmet coming off? Like, much at all, in his career. And I'm not saying I don't, I just top of my head, it's not a thing. I know a lot of people whose helmets don't come off a lot. - Yeah, I mean, one of my best buddies played college football, and this drives him crazy, by the way. Like, his point is, his helmet was so tight, you have to like, work it off. - He was the guy that had the big red-- - Yeah, and he got red marks everywhere for like the next day and a half. And he's like, he cannot understand it, you know? But I don't know, I mean, I didn't warn you out of all of 'em. - Let's go to Judy and Gainesville on G&D. Judy, what grade are you giving Jaden Daniels? - And what's up, I give him a B minus, you know? 'Cause Luca Miss is great, you know? Hopefully he'll be making the throws, but I agree, man. What urged me that yesterday was that this guy was not sliding, and I don't care how he was coming down. That just, we all don't want him to be RG3, but that was eerily like RG3, where he would run and open, and then he'd either fall forward, or he'd get hit, or now in this case, his helmet falls off twice. So he's got to start learning how to slide, you know? - Maybe pretty clear, Judy. He's not a slider. Like, that's not, I don't mean he's not an appetizer where you get three of them and they're a little tiny. And they're always really good. - But he does not plan on doing that. Like, he has a way where he falls. And same with Lamar, he's not a slider. He falls and kind of contorts his body. - Give yourself up a different way. - Exactly. But it's the same thing, essentially. I give myself up to avoid the contact. Until it isn't, until you get earholed. He's lucky, honestly, in that situation. He wasn't pulled by the, you know, the red hat, or whoever the person is, because he did take a helmet to helmet blow. - The guy got a penalty for a helmet to helmet hit? - Exactly, you know, he didn't show any signs of it. So because he wasn't woozy, I guess, they didn't pull him off the field. But that's now out of your hands and out of the team's hands. When you start taking any kind of hits, they might just say, "Hey, man, we wanna look at you." And now you're missing a series. And by the way, your backup quarterbacks out for a month. Anybody noticed that this weekend? Marcus Mario does on IR. So now you're down to your third quarterback. But, you know, everyone's like, "Oh, this helmet fell off. Don't be silly." It's everyone's helmet falls off. You goose, don't you know that? No, get a helmet that doesn't fall off. That's not a big ask. - Tight the straps a little bit. Give the equipment guy just to pull a little tauter on the clips. - I feel like I'm talking to my kid or something. I'm just trying to help you. I'm trying to protect you. You know, you're going out on your bike. I'm just trying to make it so that you don't get hurt. - I don't wanna wear my helmet, but that helmet on pal. - Derek's in sturling on Grant and Danny. Hello, Derek. - Hey, how are you guys doing? - Good morning. - Good. - So I give Jake and Daniel the C and I mean, obviously he has good running ability and everything, but I think the blame, most of the blame I have to go through is the offense important because it looked like there was no game plan. It just looked like no one's open, just took it and run and that's pretty much what it looked like. It looked like there was no actual plan of attack. There was no actual play. So it was just one guy's not open and just took it and run. So I just don't think that's a sustainable thing. And I mean, he's lucky that I mean, nothing bad happened, but if we can't, is this gonna be for the whole season and it's not really sustainable and there's like no actual game plan? - I refuse to believe there wasn't one. It looked like it, but my guess is they probably had a plan and there were routes being run. 11 scrambles on 42 dropbacks means 26% of the time. - Yeah. - When he dropped back 26% a quarter of the time, he decided to take off and run. - Chuck in centerville, you're on Grant and Danny. How are you? - Hello, how are you? - Good buddy. - Good. - Long time listener, guys. I just wanna say I give him a D. And I'm gonna tell you those things that really bother me with, you know, if your helmet doesn't fit right, get one that does, it's coming off, it's popping off, there's a problem. And you know, if you're crossing the goal line and it comes off before you get across, it's not a touchdown. The other thing is this that really bothered me. He's got a mouthpiece that's hanging out of his mouth. He doesn't wear it as a mouthpiece. It's hanging out of his mouth the whole time. That to me is ludicrous. - This is, thank you for the call. - Thank you, bud. - Grant and Danny talking now, Jaden Daniels health on the fan. This is, I'm not joining on the caller. Me, you and I are guilty of a tip. It's now sounding like old guy radio. - I know. - Where we're like, can you wear your mouthpiece? Can you wear your helmet? - I can't have hair coming out of a helmet. It's not American, no, but stick aside, like his helmet doesn't fit. It's flopping around everywhere. He's chewing on his mouthpiece. I mean, I'm in funny, Danny Grant's A. Grant H. Paulson. Somebody just brought this up and it's totally right. Like a touchdown got taken off the board. I know it wasn't a blowout loss and we're not considering it or really caring about it, but he ran for a touchdown. His helmet came off and they have to blow the play dead. Like, that's not enough for everybody? - I think my annoyance is too strong of a word, okay? But the thing that I don't love about it is just like the conversation on him sliding, falling, protecting himself, whatever, there is a dismissiveness. It's not just from him. In fact, I don't mind that his area of it, like he's ultra confident. - And he's to believe his influence. - He's the young guy that thinks he can fly too close to the sun, but it's everyone else around him. It's like, Dan Quinn, I need to care a little more. Adam Peters, the people responsible for protecting him and all, you know, the fans of his that are like - He doesn't need a helmet to fit. He can play without a helmet, he's tough. - Go away with that nonsense to someone who wants to hear it. That he's tough thing, he's a dog though, cool. That in five bucks will get you a box of donuts. I need a guy that can play 17 games and stay healthy. I don't need someone who's gonna prove that he's a tough guy and take on the contact. That ain't my quarterback. There might be a guy on my roster who could do that. Some fullback who's bleeding from his nose like John Ritchie. Every time he goes helmet to helmet with someone, my quarterback's not gonna be the guy that's gonna prove how tough he is going head to head with people. No, thank you. I'm good on that. Let's see what Jay Gruden thinks. He joins us next for his first of 17 appointments with us throughout the season on Mondays on G and D. - The seasons may be changing, but the deals at the sharpest rides are unbeatable as ever. Hey, what's going on? It's your girl, Tasha McKia. And I need you to join the sharpest rides for their fall into savings events, where they're offering incredible prices on their massive inventory. That's right, everything is on sale now. Shop from sleek sedans to rugged SUVs and sporty convertibles. 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