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First online real money weights are only $10 first deposit required. Bonus issued is now a throwable bonus bet set expired seven days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanDul.com, gambling problem, call 1-800-522-4700. If the NFL is indeed a TV show about quarterbacks, yesterday's episode was pretty magnificent. That don't mean the games where actually passing touchdowns were the lowest that they've been in the last six years, and offense was generally down from a passing standpoint. But just the drama. Before the kickoff in week one on the opening Sunday, one of the biggest stars in the league who players named the number one player in the National Football League, Tyree Kill was arrested outside of the Dolphin Stadium, aside from right beside the road where all the fans drive into the stadium. So imagine, they're driving by and I shouldn't laugh at this. I shouldn't make light of this, but he is on the ground in handcuffs. And like the videos I'm seeing are this dude. There's just one guy I saw he goes, Oh no, dude. That's Tyree. And he's like, Oh, he's getting out the window and he goes, I got him in fantasy today. And like someone's like, you better put him on the bench and like Tyree kills and cuffs. Now, not a funny situation. I don't know what happened. They're investigating the officer. I'm sure they'll investigate what Tyree killed it as well. But he got arrested. And one of his teammates, Glaius Campbell, former Walter Peyton Man of the year, whose side I would take in a, you know, back and forth with police officer as a good dude. He ended up in cuffs somehow when he walked over. So Scotty Scheffler vibes there possibly will get more details, but between that Danny and then Dak Prescott, about an hour and a half before kickoff, broke the NFL record, $60 million a year at quarterback. It was a absolutely incredible lead up to kickoff yesterday. The drama she was real, the NFL TV writers did a great job. They certainly did. Lots of meat still on the commander's box bone. We'll get into what was more discouraging the offense of the defense coming up at 425. But let's kick off our belt lay blitz here on GND. We'll start with Spencer Nussbaum, who covers the nationals for the Washington Post Spencer. A lot of people probably had their eyes on football yesterday and kind of forgot about the gnats for a day or so. They split four games with the pirates. Correct? That is correct. And I frankly can't blame them on the first Sunday of the season. No kidding. Seriously. Yeah. So I think that the big takeaways from the road trip, obviously yesterday was kind of a stinker, Patrick Corbin, getting back to kind of his form that we saw in the middle of the season. A lot of seven runs, three home runs, and the master shut down by Jared Jones is a very intriguing young pitcher on Pittsburgh side. I think if you want one positive takeaway out of that, it's in CJ Abrams for the lead off home run. As we all know, he's been struggling for a while now instead of see him kind of get one out of the park and get one going, has to be encouraging after, you know, what would have been a rough few months. Spencer feels like CJ Abrams could really use a nice last few weeks. These valleys that he's hit, no pun intended a few different times over the course of the year have kind of really put a damper on some of his numbers. There's some pretty good counting stats in there, but man, some of these swoons and some of these at bats and a lot of these offers. It's been ugly at times. Yeah, absolutely. Again, like the big thing for him is consistency, the same thing in Senate, he really ascribed any young player, but for him, the valleys have been low and especially, I mean, now it's been since July, you know, he had a rough May, and you kind of said, okay, that was one month because the high point surrounding it, but yeah, it's just been tough. His timing has looked off at the plate as of late. He's not hitting balls that he should be and really anything that isn't a fastball up there. He's really struggled with what you can make it encouraging that he hit a slider out of the park because he has just struggled so much on those sort of pitches. You can see it's spectrum. He talked about it after the game. He said he thinks he's been in his own head, but he's been working on stuff in the cage and he felt like yesterday, he finally started to get a timing back. So we'll kind of see if that carries over. Once or two games at home, coming up with the Braves and then four to wind down the homestain against the Marlins, it's Tuesday through Sunday at home for the Nationals this week at Nat's Park. What do people need to know? Yeah, I think the biggest thing that I've been looking for is on the pitching side of things, particularly with DJ hers and Mackenzie Gore. Those are two guys who have really pitched very well for the Nationals in the past couple of weeks. Mackenzie Gore is starting to find that second gear, get his velocity back. So if you can finish up the year strong, that's a huge benefit for the team. He and DJ, frankly, have the best stuff in that starting rotation. DJ had five No Hit innings on Saturday, I believe, before he was pulled. So see if those guys can kind of keep it up over the last few weeks he's in. They're both at or near career highs in innings. So I'd say that's the main point to watch. Again, seeing if CJ can do it, and then obviously anytime, you know, Dylan and James, that's really at this point, every single game you're looking at, what they can do and what, you know, is going to kind of close up these last few weeks. Spencer, thank you as always, but have a great week. Thanks. We'll see you, my friend. Hit that local 53 sounder. Our guy Mitch Tischler joins us to talk about what happened yesterday. Mitch, big picture. What'd you make of it, buddy? You know, when we got out of the game yesterday, I was a little down on it. I thought that the team played poor than I expected, but I went back and watched a little bit of this film since morning, the game this morning, and I think that they were a little bit closer than I thought yesterday. They had a couple chances early in the game. The defense did a good job of bending and not breaking despite being put in a couple bad situations because of the missed field goals and a bad block in the bad penalty, and they could have scored a touchdown, you know, early in that game. I think that I think they had some chances to make the thing a little bit closer and give a chance to win. But ultimately, the team broke down kind of as the game went on and obviously got a little away from them in the second half. Mitch, where were you when I needed you studying my film? Huh? Helping me out when I was trying to make plays. Yeah. I mean, look, there was a camera at that time. I was shooting the game on the field. I was watching film and all that different world. That's a good point. I'm an old man now. Yeah. There were certainly some plays to be made for sure and in the league, I guess no game unless you're the Panthers and you're playing the Saints is a complete debacle. What about the kicking situation speaking of the bottles? Kate York's been cut. This is now kicker number five. If you count McManus kicker number four, since they moved on from him, it looks like Austin cyber. It's going to be the guy. Yeah. I mean, we're in the kicker of this right now and it ain't a great place to be, but we've been in the quarterback at this for 25 years. So at least we're out of, we seem to be working our way out of the, out of that abyss there. So, you know, that was a really bad performance from a kicker there, Jimus kicks and the kick off out of bounds. It's just entirely unacceptable. And quite frankly, anyone who thought that, that he was going to, Kate York was going to stick around this week hasn't been listening or watching what they and Quinn and Adam Peters are care about. What's your grateful for Cliff Kingsbury in week one? You know, I thought we got a little bit too early in this game. There was one play early in the game where they had kind of the old line was in a run blocking show and they had Sam Crosby pulling around on a pass and ultimately, ultimately Jaden had to tuck and run because they weren't able to block it up correctly. We saw the double pass attempts with Luke McCaffrey there. You know, I would have liked to have seen a couple more balls downfield. I know the bucks were dialing up the pressure and you have the shortest time, you know, the throw of any quarterback in the NFL. But, you know, I think that they could have done a better job helping out the offensive line and keeping a couple more blockers in to help out and give as receivers a chance to get downfield. And, you know, that very first play of the game, having that, you know, short little throw to the Brian Robinson go back to team yards, all of a sudden you're erasing your entire, you know, first 15 game script because you're in the second and 25 right away. So, I think, I think they'll hopefully do a little bit better job kind of moving forward. But, listen, we've seen Jaden play now in three football games and in two of them, they tried to, they tried to open the game with that kind of quick little pass to running back and both times Jaden missed it. That might not be a cup of tea, might want to try and get them an easier, a little bit different of an easy pass to kind of get his legs under him as you move forward. That's a good point. A Mitch Tischler is with us monumental sports networks where they can check him out. Mitch, speaking of Daniels, just brought her brush here, I guess. What did you make of his outing? He had more rushing attempts than completions at one point mid fourth quarter. If I was to have told you before the game, he was going to scramble 11 times when there were only 12 pressures all game and run it 16 times. What would you have said? Yeah. I mean, listen, we went through this last year with Eric Henry where he kind of hung his offensive line out the drive and Andrew Wiley didn't have a very good day. He got beat inside clean far too often and a couple of times he got beat inside when he had help to the outside, which is borderline unacceptable for an offensive tackle. But ultimately, you know that this offensive line is going to need some help. And quite frankly, I don't think they got enough of it from the tight end and from the running back. And I hope that that's something that when this coaching staff goes back and looks at the film and they see kind of where some of these, some of these caps and calls are, they're going to, they're going to, they're going to hopefully try and fix that. But for, by and large, I thought the interior of the offensive line did a good job in, in past bro. I liked what I saw out of Al Greddy, the audition, and Cosme, a little bit of a mixed bag at left tackle and a right tackle, they need that they need to help out underwhelming there. I mean, they, they, he's got a point in his career where clearly he's struggling in one on one situations and obvious passing down. And if something that is, this is the team that they put together and they have to understand that's who they have and you need to make adjustments based on that. And I'm hoping that they close, is able to kind of step up and make those changes. Do you think Austin Echler earned a little bit more than say, you know, get one catch for 20 plus yards and goes take a break for 30 minutes? Do you think he maybe earned some, I don't know what's that word more looks, more touches? Listen, Austin Echler played a really big role in the past blocking game. And I think that, that was part of the fact that he didn't get as many catches as he did because he was, you know, helping out in those situations, but they need to get a ball of him more often definitely. I mean, I know that they don't want to break down to be Jaden, 16 carries, B-Rob 12 and Echler too, because pretty much when Echler was in the game, you knew that it was the passing down and that they weren't really looking to run the ball with them. And I think you need to be a little bit more optionality with your guys and not be so obvious when a certain player is in the game. But big, big hats with Austin Echler, those two catches that he had, two of the catches he had, he took big time hits on and got up and kept on trucking. And that first catch for 22 yards on that little middle screen was a really nice play concept and draw up and executed extremely well and Echler is pretty shifty when he gets out there in the secondary. So I like what I saw from him and I do think that we're going to see him be continually part of the past game, but and hopefully get a couple more carries in there. Mitch, we appreciate you, buddy. Thank you. Absolutely. Thanks so much, guys. You got it. All right. Let's talk more national football. A broad we go, we'll get into the games around the league and a lot more detail, just the rhythm of our week. Generally, as we do that a lot on Tuesday, we really dive as deep into the commander's game as we can on Mondays. But quickly here around the league, Lions Rams was great last night, great theater, went to overtime, Stafford back in Detroit through for three, 17 in the touchdown, Jared golf and the Detroit Lions, though, get the last laugh, 26 to 20 in OT. They bullied the Rams on an eight play, 70 yard, David Montgomery power handoff, fast and overtime. He went for 91 in the game winning score, Detroit a winner, Detroit was better for probably what? 50 of the 67 minutes played, but you know, that furious come back there by the Rams credit to them for doing it. And again, listen, it wasn't as if they scored a million points and we're incredible. They scored 20 on the road to Detroit, but you have a priority, which is to get Cooper cup the football. You had 14 catches. That wasn't for 250 yards was just over a hundred, but still they want Cooper cup to have the football. You find a way to get him a football ta ta the Dallas Cowboys have a way of opening the season. Well, and they did it yesterday, double dominant Browns, 33 to 17. They were actually up 33 to 10 before a garbage time touchdown for Cleveland. They got the best kicker in the league, maybe in this kid, Brandon Aubrey, the former pro soccer player, or they sign in training camp last year, how does Washington do whatever that was? Aubrey made kicks from 57 40 and 50 and 46 was four for four in the game. That got the fact contract at a really good first half. And then basically took the second half off and put on a visor. They blew the Browns out of the yeah, throttle the down Cleveland looked terrible. Deshawn Watson was awful in this game. And that's kind of where it starts and stops. He has been awful for a long time, about three years running. That's the worst contract in the history of the league. It's certainly up there. I mean, it's proven out to be at this stage. It might as a good game in Washington, if you recall, or he looked awesome. He's fine. Well, relatively. I will say this. By his standards, post massage table, he was incredible in that game. I mean, like this version of Deshawn Watson, he was passable, which is incredible. Well, I say that in just suggested because just as it relates, if you played Washington last year as a quarterback, you were the MVP of the league. I mean, that's not hyper that's not hyperbole either. You for tonight touchdowns, eight interceptions, 105.7 quarterback rating, 4,600 yards. That's what opposing quarterbacks that to Washington, that includes like pedestrian games from guys like Desmond Ritter and a couple others. So I thought you were talking about when he was in DC for the Wentz game two years ago, when he played Washington, I thought that's what you were just conflated right? That was two years ago. Anyway, so my zinger sucked. Point is Cleveland was terrible. He might have played him last year or two years ago. Okay, then. Well, while they were bad on defense. Yeah. No, you're fine. Rookie quarterbacks. Yeah, let's do that. Bonix atrocious. No passes beyond four feet. Pretty much. He's still through two interceptions too, by the way. That was a disaster. Caleb Williams was a disaster in in week number one, with a score off. That's a touchdown. Caleb Williams was 14 of 29 for 93 yards yards per attempt. Some quick math here, 3.2 for Caleb, gross, he also held the ball forever. He did the thing he did in college where he'd run all over the place and then flick a ball 50 yards minus the flicking the ball thing because he just got sacked or ran out of bounds or whatever. Yeah, it was ugly and yet the bears somehow got up off the mat. They were down 17 to nothing. And with a defensive touchdown and a blocked punt touchdown by Simone Biles, boyfriend, they ended up coming all the way back to beat the Titans and great will hurt thing. Good will hurt thing. The line's not as bad as the numbers, but the pick six was one of the worst plays I've ever seen. Yeah. I'm sitting there. I've got, I've got my gloating text ready. Cause Tennessee was frisky. They were the better team for most of that game. And then they fell apart, combined with the, the block punt for a touchdown and then one of the 10 worst player. I mean, that's up there with the butt fumble in terms of worst plays I've ever seen. What are we going to call it? It could just be the heart thing, the heart to pick six. I mean, I don't know who you saw. I don't know what you go. This will work. This was like an M night Shyamalan movie and maybe he could direct that play. It was so spooky that will I think starring will I think that was so that please go watch it. It's the funniest thing. He's like falling down and he, he decides to like throw the ball like a, like a, like a second mace would pitch it to a shortstop. I was going to say like on a, on a six, four, three double play the way Luis Garcia would just flip the ball over to CJ all the way to the ground, but I don't know. It wasn't like throw it to a guy. It seemed like he was trying to get it to the sideline, but there was a bears defensive back there. In the world where decisions can happen in an instant, you know, like we get a trailer. I do my bit where today is my day whereby tomorrow on the air, I will have watched every play of every game via all, you know, the, the condensed game and I do it every single week. It's just football, man. I've not done it yet. So we'll let us could have had like a decent game otherwise. That's the play that I saw most notably and it's just that one's tough. I'm not going to remember some of the early, early game success. I'm going to remember the whole thing. Speaking of quarterbacks who had tough days, Kirk O chains, Kirk cousins in the Atlanta Falcons. I'm a little worried about Kirk, Danny, coming back. This was gross. This was as bad a performance as I've seen from cousins in a long, long time, but he also just looked immobels, not the right word, but they had him in pistol or shotgun on every single play. He was never on your center. So that tells me one of two things, either they have a terrible plan, because what he does best is under center play action, drop back, shotgun stuff, excuse me, a play action pass, drop back game, or they're not comfortable with him dropping back on that Achilles or something. But he ended up throwing two interceptions, including one at the end of the game. The Falcons defense played well enough to win and he just, you know, the offense couldn't get anything going. Really? They couldn't run the ball. I'm a little worried about the post Achilles cousins first game. Two things. One Pittsburgh's defense is still great and TJ Watt had one of those games. I mean, this is a good, this is when you are when it's like, you know, the comeback from commercial break before they introduce TJ Watt for the Hall of Fame, you could play the highlights from this one where he's, I mean, there was a time where they go, we've got a call of penalty on you because you were too fast. By the way, he had two sack fumbles taken off the board for penalties too. Yeah. Where they go. Still had a monster game. You, you, you were just too fast. So we're going to, we think you were off sides, but we can't prove it. I'm believable. So that's part of it. The other part, here's what reminded me of it. Again, this is, this is one maybe, you know, he's healthier as the year goes talking about cousins. Remind me of later career. Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan, you know, he never really liked stuff at his feet, right? If he had his feet set, could pat the football, he'll deliver as good as anybody. But if you made a move around, have it when he had to reset his feet, he wouldn't get as much on the football and he was vulnerable. That's what it looked like. That first interception that cousins through was, there was nothing on it. It was noodle-y and it's like he thought there'd be some reserve of arm strength there as his feet weren't set and there wasn't. That's when you kind of go, oh, maybe he's not quite right yet. Maybe that'll change, but week one, not a good showing. No, there were a lot of quarterbacks, a lot of teams that didn't have them, including here in Washington, where the commanders lost by 17. Let's get back to the local 53 next. What was more discouraging yesterday, the offense or the defense? We will get into that and we can welcome your calls as well at 800-636-1067 on Grant & Danny. The seasons may be changing, but the deals of the sharpest rides are unbeatable as ever. Hey, what's going on? It's your girl, Tasha McKeea and I need you to join the sharpest rides for their fall into the savings event, where they're offering incredible prices on their massive inventory. That's right, everything is on sale now. Shop from sleek sedans to rugged SUVs and sporty convertibles. 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Just run it back to last year. San Francisco 49ers host in the game, 815 kick tonight. More importantly though, here in DC, the commanders are 0 and 1. They lose 37 to 20 at the hands of the box. Tampa Bay did whatever they wanted offensively. 9 of 13 on third down. When you add in the penalties of which there were four on third down defensively, the numbers actually skew way worse than that. Washington just two of eight on third downs with the football. Tampa Bay had a advantage well over 150 yards when Washington started its final garbage time drive. Their receivers at that point had 19 receiving yards. I mean, there's plenty of blame to go around. Kicker, who they've already released missed two field goals, kicked a ball out of bounds on special teams. By the way, the dynamic kickoff, you can't call it something like that. You're asking to be made fun of, but the new kickoff, we had a kick return for a touchdown and we had several long kick returns across midfield yesterday. Indeed. So this is the design. I know everybody wants to beat up on it and can't wait every time there's a touch back to make their Twitter jokes. The result is the result. I mean, we had plays made on kickoffs last. I'm again, as a longtime fan of these various sports, be they baseball, where we've seen substantive change over the last couple of years, football as well, I'm willing to deal with a lot as long in order to get the thing. And what I mean is I've got kick returns to be part of the game. Kick returns are part of the game. Make a good look as weird as it wants. Put seven guys on one hash mark. You can line them up single file. You can pretend to be a cloud sculpture or something. Whatever you want to do, as long as I get kick returns, I'll deal with it. What if they all have to sit pretzel style with their knees touching and then get up and start blocking, but they can't use their left hand. Everybody has to do crisscross applesauce until the guy catches it. Fine. Let's do it. Yeah. So far, I would say so good. But anyway, what was more discouraging to you guys and we're going to open up the phones on this at 800-636-1067, Danny, you and I can start. Were you more disappointed in the offense or the defense? The offense. And to me, it's not close. Disappointment comes from expectations not being met. My expectations were met on the defensive side of the ball. I thought they'd be a little bit better, but not much. You know what? This was the worst defensive unit in the sport last year and they're on their way to doing that again offensively with a new hot shot, handsome dude with the deep voice and a flat top in charge with the number two overall pick, Heisman Trophy quarterback with multiple new offensive linemen with new pieces, almost everywhere. And the only holdover really from years before guys that have produced here, guys like Brian Robinson and Terry McCorran, for them to be that anemic. And they were all masked how unproductive they were by incredible running and scrambling from Jayden Daniels. Again, deep into the third quarter, more than half of their yards were on Daniels Scrambles. Not design runs and keepers and ingenious things. Nothing was coming from the actual offense itself. It was Daniels put the cape on and see what you can do and lose your helmet half the time. To me, it was glaring, disappointing, jarring, awful. Respectfully, while you're right, they were terrible defensively last year, six of their 11 starters weren't here last year. It's a new defense almost entirely of the five guys that are still starting. Two of them are Doron Payne and John Allen, who I don't think you or anybody else wants to get rid of because supposedly they're outstanding, right? So now that's eight of your 11 guys. So that means that Benjamin Saint used and Emmanuel Forbes and Quan Martin. Those are the three guys on the secondary are the holdovers, but here's the good news to that. Gen Queen is a defensive back whisperer. You hired a defensive minded head coach to help fix your defense. And I didn't think he was going to be able to do it before the first game. So it's not like I am throwing in the towel, but I know this sounds crazy because we haven't dealt with this here in Washington in a long, long time where you would go out and get a defensive minded head coach and a big name defensive coordinator that he brings with him. And then they don't fix the defense at all and the defense becomes a huge problem and and just doesn't play up to its standards. But anyway, we're just having fun. That's all fun. We're just fun. Come on. Who's done it? Who's done it? Come on. We're fun. Point of the news story is eight of 11 guys, man, are either John Allen, Doron Payne or a new starter that they brought in here. So in a lot of ways, it's in Dan Quinn's image primarily. It's in Adam Peters image to an extent secondary. Not ideal. I understand where we're at there and the secondary really struggled, but it's it's not like the linebacker court lit it up. I made Frankie Louvoo Mark. How many times you notice Frankie Louvoo? Not many, man. Bobby Wagner, future Hall of Famer, missed a few tackles was late getting to a couple things. Now, I will say this. He's a wrecking ball. He's going to make a lot of tackles to it. Three TFLs in the backfield, but it's pretty clear to me from a foot speed standpoint. These ain't your older brothers, Bobby Wagner, if you know what I mean, which stands to reason. So you had Cleveland Farrell, who's new, you had Dorons Armstrong, who's new, Louvoo Wagner, Jeremy Chin, the new version of Quan Martin, Mikey Sandristillo. They drafted told us was the best pound for pound player in the draft. And I like Mike Sandristillo. I think he's going to be awesome. I'm high on him, but as far as Forbes and Saint Jews who were punching bags yesterday, Quinn will fix it. You know, they're going to be better with coaching. That was part of the expectation to be clear. We heard those guys are better. They're different. They're improved. And you just didn't see it. So respectfully to the offense, which I'm not letting them off the hook. They were disappointing to the defense was so bad. And all we heard about was arriving violently in the secret sauce is, you know, how we're going to play, how we play is not for everybody. You mean, like my ice, you know, how we like pro football teams and want to contend. How we play is not for everyone, like fans who want to see stops or once, you know, the other team punted once it's not for the opposing team's punter. I'll tell you that they'll get it right. Hopefully they'll figure it out. But through one game, I think realistically, I didn't think they'd come out offensively and look great. It's going to be a, it's going to take a lot of time on defense. I at least thought they'd be able to get creative and mix some potions and, and just look a lot improved. And we did not get that. We did not see that. It was 3.7 yards a carry Tampa Bay did eight tackles for loss for Washington defenders. So I think in general, they did a good job against the run. Now Tampa Bay stinks at running there. It's a long running theme for them. No pun intended. They're a bad running football team. But my God, did Baker Mayfield look like a Hall of Famer. How'd you like my guy? Bucky Irving. You look comfortable. He's got a little burst. Buck Bucky Irving to play a little bit. Bucky Irving is a better runner of the football than Rashad, right? But Rashad White's a better player because you see me in the open field doing some things matriculating with the passing game in addition to being a guy that I really wanted to draft is Bucky Irving the name of the guy from Captain America or is that something else? Is there a Bucky Barnes looking for Bucky Barnes there is a Bucky. There is a Bucky. Yeah. All right. Back to you, Danny. But yeah, it was obviously the passing past defense again last year, if you played quarterback against Washington, you put up Hall of Fame MVP type numbers and we're one for one with that happening again. It's all the same stuff, different personality as you alluded to, but the same excuse is the same reasoning, the same, oh, it's communication or whatever the hell excuse they usually offer when they get burned a lot. Tony Gonzalez joins us at the top of the hour and about 20 minutes. Jake Gruden is on the show today at six o'clock. Next, what side of the ball bothered you more, the performance on offense or defense were granting Danny. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The winners cause I, I, I do either do that or I do the, well, I'll save a good team and pick another team that's a double digit favorite or something crazy. I lose. I'm amazing at losing its arrival polls. The best season three of Thursday night football is going to kick off in three days on Thursday night. Great game this week. The dolphins and the bills, Tony Gonzalez is on the set pre and post with the Amazon prime crew. He's going to join us coming up in our five o'clock segment. That's after the top of the hour. But right now on Grant and Danny, we want to know who disappointed Jamore, the offense or the defense in Sunday's loss at Tampa Bay, Kevin's in Arlington. What's up, Kev? Hey, fellas, if you're making it binary because really all three units shrunk to high heaven. Yeah. Nobody could talk frankly. I'm going to go defensive. Let me lay it out. Danny, cause I want to come back to you on this. If you just look at the investment, okay, we have seven first rounders on the six seconds. All of them played except Newton because of injuries. You look at our free agency dollars. The biggest checks went to Armstrong and Louvoo, okay, our defensive brain trust. We got Adam Peters is the defensive guy. Dan Quinn, go away. You look at our cap dollars across the roster, largely to D and again, obviously some of that's because of the fire regime. But when you look at the, oh, we've got one first rounder and he's a rookie quarterback. We got cognitive, he's a stud, he's a second, we got Terry, he's a stud, he was a third, and we've got Robinson, he was a third, okay, the talent is on the D side and they wanted to build the culture with the D as the offense would restrict you late more slowly. But when you have that kind of defensive performance, particularly on third down shame on you, it was a debacle. That's why I'm so upset because we didn't get due to from the defense, it was terrible. So Kevin, I love that call and I always appreciate you making it as always. Big picture, he's 100% right, right? The fact that we're here with the defense that's had astounding amounts of investment, the first four first round defensive lineman over four straight years, then jam and Davis and whatever was five in six years or whatever the hell, when you're talking about first round picks on that side of the ball, Forbes last year, all the guys you put together and the defense to be that bad with defensive coaching is beyond unforgivable. But I got last year's homework and I know you're pointed by it. It's a lot of different players group to me. It's the same general ingredients, the same linchpins, the same stars, you switched out cam curl for Jeremy Chan, he signed that $8 million linebacker, a $12 million linebacker and a $10 million defensive end and you didn't notice any of them. Yeah, I mean, to me, linebackers, you know, it's a forgotten position to a degree and like the salary cap says that the allocations do. Yeah. So we're just not going to agree. I mean, the bones of the defense to me, like I've already, like they were so terrible last year, I didn't expect it to be that good. I don't know what else. Again, there are three guys that were on last year's defense that played a bunch yesterday that aren't named Alan or paint, who you didn't want to swap out anyway, three. Three other guys are either, we agree on good or new. So I'm just, to me that like they suck last year. So they're going to suck again, a little bit less of that for me and more. Hey, Dan Quinn and Joe Whit, figure this out. Most of the guys that are playing are your guys or guys that you decided you wanted here. Let's go to IAN and Vienna on G&D. What's up, IAN? I agree with the previous caller. I think when you are talking about the defense and the investment, that's the argument. But also, we've discussed this at NOGM that they should have hired an offensive coach, why they should do that, et cetera. And look, I think Dan Quinn is Ron Rivera 2.0 with just better phrasing, more charisma. And when you see this type of defensive performance, it's the same. And I don't know if you guys noticed in the Dallas game, that defense looked the same. I don't think they missed Dan Quinn, DQ, and their secret sauce and Joe Whit, Jr. brings a lot of energy. These were the same things we heard going from Jay Gruden to Ron Rivera/Jack Del Rio. The defense is going to play fast and play hard and play with intensity. And they were embarrassing. Emmanuel Forbes is not an NFL player. He's just not like, if he was released today, I don't think a single team would pick him up. And I don't understand. I think Americans are obsessed with size and height weight when it comes to sports. European sports don't do that. But in the sport of football, if you're undersized as a safety and a corner, that's a problem. And we have, we love them, Mikey Sanders-Strill, who people have overhyped beyond words when Nick Saban said he's the best pound for pound guy, well, he's 5'9". There's a reason you can say that. And there's a reason he was drafted where he is. And there's a lot of football ahead of him. He's played one game against a Pro Bowl wide receiver in the slot in Godwin. So I'll go TBD there. I liked what I saw from him in practice. Although that doesn't mean a whole lot because last year, I remember the rave reviews from reporters about Emmanuel Forbes when he was a rookie at practice as well. But the Forbes thing's pretty clear and obvious and there's not a whole lot more. We need it. I'm ready to return the verdict on this one. Yeah, I got, I'm twirling my guy up and flipping up in the air, waiting for the bailiff to call over Mikey. The jury has spoken. I mean, this is just pretty obvious. By the way, the Cowboys number two in the NFL, this first week in yards per play, only the Tennessee Titans who dominated the Bears defensively had a better game than the Cowboys 3.2 yards per play. So through the point, again, it's a small sample. It's too small a sample to make the declarations even that we are. But if your point is, they didn't look like they missed Dan Quinn and Joe Witt, for one game they did not. That's true. Let's go to Danny and false church, home of the Jaguars. What's up, Danny? Thanks. Thanks, guys. I appreciate you having me on. Yeah. So, and I've been a listener for a long time, love your guys show, but I would say both both the offense and the defense were equally disturbing and discouraging for me. You know, I don't know what type of defense they were playing. But it looked like the secondary, they were backing up. It was a soft zone, you know, not very conducive to guarding Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, right? And then on the offensive line, I mean, you got to give Jay and Daniel's time through the ball. They didn't do that very well, and then you got to get the ball to Terry McClaren. I don't know what, I don't know why they didn't do it. Maybe it's the fact that he was on my fantasy team. Danny, why do you want them to get the ball to McClaren? He's their best offensive player. That's weird, Danny. We're philosophy. That means he should be involved. Generally speaking, yeah, you'd want to get a guy like that involved. Okay. Both strategy. Write that down. Where's my sending email involved? Now would you consider his first catch with three minutes and 30 seconds to go in the third quarter? Would you consider that to be good use of Terry McClaren? What is no? Okay. What is no? He was targeted on a throw way out of bounds, which by the way, on that throw, it was kind of maybe predetermined. But there was a couple of open receivers on the other side of the field. And then the first play of the second half, I loved this call from Kingsbury. Yep. Loved it. Let's make sure we protect. Let's get everyone on the same page coming out of halftime. We're taking our shot and then he wins. He flew past. I don't remember who it was defensively on him and he's in the clear. That ball was dropped into the bucket and camp over and over and over again. And I know this because every time it happened, the commander's tweeted it out and we found out about it. That one was not though. It missed him too far. That could have changed the whole day. Yeah. Different. The conversation is if Jayden did all the running around and hit a 70 yard touchdown on a deep home run ball to McClaren, just like that, it's a different ball game. So Danny, who has an incredible name, by the way, if I can just say that, reference this. The usage on offense is I didn't mean to address that as to why I was more disappointed than that group. But waiting on McClaren and waiting on Austin Echler, I don't let's not wait. Let's from the first minute, I mean, that's, that's who our bread is going to be buttered by are those two guys. It ain't no a Brown. It's not Luke McCaffrey just yet. It's not a lot of it is a Kias and it sure is bleep ain't Jameson Crowder who had a nice little catch and scamper and run. But those aren't the answers. You're two best offensive players that need the football in their hands are McClaren and Echler and they had two catches deep or two touches deep into the third quarter. 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