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And on Tuesday, we will be launching, or not launching, but debuting, 7.9th and Hallows' 10th anniversary merch. We got some hoodies and shirts for y'all for all the fans. You can hold us down for 10 seasons. I can't believe we've been doing that fucking podcast for 10 seasons, man. So, BCnetshop.com, look out for that, man. We've got a pack show for y'all. Mikey's not here today. Mikey is down with the flu. So, we hope our brother gets better. We'll see him on Monday. Courtney has got some work to do. So, she'll be back on Monday as well. No respect to culture. Lero's got some personal business. Take care. So, we'll be back next week. Let the homey toasting from the Shirley Plantain show. We'll join us in hour two for full recap, full preview of week four in the NFL, man. But we have got a lot to talk about on this local hour. We're going to bring in bang and Dante. How y'all brothers feeling here today? I am good, bro. You know, top of the storm came through the A. People bought up all the water were being real extra, but it was solid. You know, it's a good day out. Man, how you feeling, brother? I don't respect that body being out for personal reasons and all this shit. I'm under the weather myself. I'm stressed out. Man, thanks. I need PTO. I need PTO too. You see, I'm here. Hey, man. Hey, man. If you submit the PTO out of clear to brother. I'm out of clear. But here we are here today for a new episode. I'm feeling good. It's Friday. We are a couple days away from the best month of the year, which is October. And not just because of my birthday. It's because it's the only month of the year where you get all of the sports in one. You got NFL football. You got college football. You got the NBA coming back. You got NHL coming back. And you got the MLB playoffs, which start on Tuesday. It's too late Monday because we're going to have a full hour of baseball talk. We're going to be previewing the entire MLB playoffs. And we're also going to talk about them sorry-ass white Sox, who I know are going to break the record over the weekend. And I don't really bang with the fans. Boom. But we'll get into that Monday as well. And we're also going to talk about the Cubs too. Because I know some of you cupping niggas out there. Nick, y'all going to go out on the radar too. Now, y'all talk crazy doing the offseason too. And here y'all niggas are no playoffs as well, man. But let's get into the look while hit, man. Sponsored by nobody. ♪ Local Iowa ♪ There we go. A lot of stuff going on in Chicago sports. The Bears will be hosting the Los Angeles Rams. Both teams are one and two this Sunday on the lakefront. And yeah, man. Derek Rose retired. Teresa Weatherspoon got fired. We got a lot to talk about in this hour. But let's start it off with the beloved with the Chicago Bears. Big, big week. Big, big game. I feel like the fate of Chicago sports is on the line. Sunday on the lakefront, man. But we got to kind of talk about what happened this week. We went on the air on Monday. Monday night football, I now started. We did not see the amazed performance that Jay Dane was going to put on that night. And that sent Bears Twitter into a hellhole. We my brother talked about a little bit on Seven Night, the House, about how stupid the conversation was. I kind of went fake viral this week with the reel we put out. TikTok is not like me, by the way. TikTok niggas hate me. Like, if you look at my comments, it's ridiculous, but keep watching it. Because I've been getting more and more TikTok views. I think I did like them at 10,000 this week off those two TikToks. So keep supporting me. Keep calling me a fucking idiot because it's helping me out. But if you look at all the things, all people that people criticize about with a Caleb Williams, you know, going on and saying the Bears made another mistake of who they drafted the quarterback that, you know, they should have got Jayden Daniels and all he's not a leader. He's not that. It's something that Mikey said on the show last week. I think that all Bears family, the brace. That's back to Caleb Williams, just the villain. It just is what it is. Nobody likes this nigga. And this went back to last year with the pain of the nails, the crown is mom. We even talked about down the show from it to it matters. And I feel like as Bears fans, we just got to accept that shit that you got a quarterback that a lot of people just don't like for no fucking reason. And you just got to understand it and kind of just stab aside my guess is the way to say it and just when this turns around, be ruthless with it because I personally will. 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That's because when Peyton Manning asked was, look at Peyton Manning. As a matter of fact, this thing about it like this, Peyton Manning came out the year before. The Jets were the draft of them. He knew it. I'm standing there trying to see one more year. He goes to the Colts. He huffs it up the first year. And people are like, oh, is he really who they say is? And they love them every since. So I ain't worried. Dontan, what's your take on this week's discourse? I don't think villain is really the right way to praise it, affirm it. He just is bang just said, he's simply the number one pick. This is what comes with that. I think with us being in Chicago and being so quarterback hungry, it's a situation where we have, you know, extremely high expectations and seeing the guy picked right after him. Succeed early while he struggled. And it's been the same struggles we've seen with, you know, a poor offensive line play. We feel like the routes don't make sense in the offense. And all of those things happen. And so now it's just like, oh, fuck, here we go again. But no, I don't think villain is the way to portray it. I think a lot of people usually root against it. And I'm a one pick. Like, you know, it's always going to say, well, you know, we expect you to come out and just light shit up. And because we've had it happen more frequently and now as opposed to the past, those expectations have risen even more. So with a guy like Caleb, who was a Heisman Trophy winner, who's had all the expectations since he was in high school, of course, you know, people are seeing him, you know, have mixed results in the, in the, in the early stages and they make up. See, here we go. And so I don't think he's a villain. But it's just those are the expectations of another one pick in today's game. It's like, you know, we set this team up for you. We obviously as bare friends, we go more in depth and, you know, they really have certain things they didn't address that they should have addressed. But, you know, we set the team up for you to the point where the national media was saying no rookie quarterback has ever come into a better situation. So now based off what the president, they said, they're sitting there saying, well, what the fuck is going on? You know, Kena Adams has been hurting other things. But at the end of the day, they expect Caleb and his Supreme talent to overcome all of that. So I don't think he's a villain, but I think, you know, you just really seeing what happens with a number one pick. And, you know, we've never, we've never had that in this city. Like, we have, you know, we drafted Rex Grossman and Kay McNam, guys like that, you know, later in the first round, but we've never had that scrutiny of a number one guy. Even with Justin, you know, he was about the 11th pick. And we traded up for that. Yeah. But we never had a guy that was, you know, expected to come in day one and be a guy. So even with Justin, they expected him to, you know, have some growing pains and things that he has developed. So that's all you're just seeing is people saying, okay, you know, you were advertised as a complete package. What's going on? Yeah, I think too, you know, I do think it's a mix of that. But even before the number one draft thing, I just think that people don't like Kayla because he's kind of like the first Gen Z quarterback, I guess. You know what I'm saying? Like he moves a different way. He's wired a different way. You know, the nigga Pence is there. A lot of people don't like that. You know, a lot of people don't like when he shows his emotions and things like that. And I think a lot of people, like you just said too, they want to see number one picks fail, but also they, they, I think a lot of people just like laughing at the bears. This is why I always bring back my comparison of the bears being a football Knicks. A lot of you just love like laughs at the Knicks at the point where logic goes out the window when it comes to the Knicks because it's like fucking Knicks that the Knicks, they should always lose. I think it's the same way at the bear. I think people just outside of bears fans and outside of reason, people just want the bears to continue to lose. And I think for the average fan, it'll be nothing funnier than the bears to get the number one draft pick and the guy who's been held as the guy since what fucking high school to fall flat on his face. So I think that's part of it as well. But I do think that if, if, if and when this does turn around, I think there'll be a little bit of change for right now. And this is just me too. Not just the fans. We just got to stop reacting to shit because I found myself reacting to a lot this week. I cussed a lot of money. I actually challenged the nigga to a fight on Instagram. I'm on Twitter this week. So that's it tells you that instead of that damn man. I told nigga I beat his ass. What the fuck do we have to have? Do we have to have another conversation? Hey, man. We can have all conversations we want. And at the end of the day, I have to just put the phone down, which I did not do that on Monday. I was very, I was very annoyed that this, this past week, but we got through it, man. But let's talk about this play. That happened yesterday, which is always concerned. I always feel players only meetings never anywhere, especially then starting the season. Now, I did think that the offense will take a while to get to where it set. I definitely didn't think it would take this long. And, you know, we hear about a leadership group, which went back to naggy days in my head, like leadership group that Matthew Flus was talking about on Tuesday, not Tuesday, but Wednesday when I was up there. By the way, I don't understand why to be having Matthew Flus be virtual on Mondays now, but I don't know what's up with that. But anyway, I feel like we're getting to the point where a lot of these flukes press conference is a real getting real coach speaking, more than usual. And I think that's something they need to pay attention to as the season goes on, but he said he sat down, Shane Waldron on Monday morning, went over a film, film and things like that. And it's like, bro, we shouldn't be doing this this early. If you got our offensive coordinator, you got to sit down and look at filming three days in. It's a problem. But what stood out to me was, is if you go to what Mercedes Lewis said yesterday, told the media who was there, that they were part of the leadership group. And basically they were telling in so many words, tell the Shane Waldron to coach them harder. Now the people that were there, I think when Mercedes Lewis came up Williams, they were DJ Moore and a couple others. And he's like, yo, we got guys on his team. Like, we don't want to hear about, oh, you know, we got rookie quarterback and, you know, things moving slow. He said, no, that's not what it was when this season started. We have expectations. We need to stay on top of those expectations and actually go out there and win games. So we've got duels, we can go out there and execute. We can do that. So he said, well, people treat by leadership group. Well, the answer question, I don't think we should be having leadership group meetings and we fucking for it. I think you have a leadership group meetings this early in the season. That means that you might have hired the wrong nigga. That's something that goes on later on in the season, my personal opinion. Anytime I hear about any type of players meeting with the coaches and things like that, my alarm goes on, especially when it comes to this fucking franchise. And so that's why I don't have a good field about this week. We into our picks later on in this hour. But that kind of stuff kind of rings the lawn to be where I'm like, we already know how we all feel about groups. I think it's one thing that all Bears fans can agree on that even even remember how we had the full Caleb and Justin Civil War this off season. So one thing that all the fan base read on is that maybe we should have been fired. If you're going to start over, start over for real. That just didn't make any sense to me. And then you got Shane Waldron, who by the way, this was said on, uh, on water was civil. And shout out to Mikey, even though Mikey was sick, he gave me the quotes of what Jorge Sedano from ESPN LA said on water was Sylvie today. This we told Sylvie, he said that, you know, it felt like Dave Canella, who was the quarterback coach in Seattle, was the reason that Seattle's office was good. Not Shane Waldron. This is the direct court from Maurice Sedano. He said, I get that he, Waldron with the Seattle after leaving McVay and everyone who had make McVay dust did well. When you look at it, look, Canella's was there with Waldron. The year Geno had the big years, Canella's was there as QB coach. Numbers never match once Canella's left and it was just on Waldron. Their office was from 12th to 20th, once Canella's left, it was all left on Waldron. And he had the 20th ranked passing offense in the league. I don't believe they had the right infrastructure to make them successful. Olan Stinks flew to his defensive mind to head coach and Waldron Stinks. Don't, I don't think they had the right person to aid Kayla going forward. Now that's just part of many national medias takes on this. We saw Granny from ESPN just completely lost it on get up yesterday and had a full, very passionate rant about them rolling and potentially rolling in Kayla Williams. There's a question that I got that I'm going to pass it. I'm going to ask them to pass it off. When are we going to start looking at Ryan Poe because the stuff that I just named, that Jorge Sedano knew, if either Ryan Poe's knew about it and he didn't give it shit, or he didn't know about it, either way, that's a problem. And now we just start looking at some of these moves that he's making because all this should be focused on making Kayla the best possible situation. And look, sometimes you just know, you knew when the Broncos hired, well, who's old boy? Who's the Jets offensive coordinator now? His name is escaping me in New York. He was Aaron Rodgers boy. About Hackett? Yeah, Hackett. We all knew that then your Hackett wasn't going to work very early with Denver. And I don't think we need the full 17 game picture. I think they made the wrong hype. And this is not something I'm looking at where I proved it when it hired because, you know, if things, you always want to give somebody a shot. And I also feel like great offensive coordinators or really good offensive coordinators are interviewing for offensive coordinator jobs. They're interviewing for head coaching jobs. But I'm starting to look maybe a little bit question, Ryan Poe's decision-making if the offense continues to go this way. Hey, what do you feel about the leadership meetings? The Waldron High, just everything that's going on. I feel like it's going to be some hard conversations. It's going to have to be having Halis Hall very soon. If this continues to go this way. I'm not mad at leadership meetings early. I think it's overrated too. Well, I want you to overrate. I think it's overblown for us to be, to be talking about, oh man, they having the leadership meeting and boom, boom, boom. But I also work in leadership. So I tell my team to reach out to me whenever anything is going on. So a leadership meeting could happen when things are going good and you want to keep it going. A leadership meeting could happen. Even though this is going on, the leadership thing could happen at any time and at any moment. And you'd rather them happen now actually than you do later because it's easier for you to clean up some of the issues now than later in the season. If you're going to do what you're doing now. With the Waldron thing. Hey, look man, sometimes Nick is interviewing you very well. At the end of the day, you kidding? That's a good point. Now, sometimes you just interview very well and you have all of the great ideas and all you just need is another opportunity and you get there and then you start to see that the interview may have been flawed. I won it and y'all heard me on this show. I won it when they said they was interviewing Cliff Kingsbury. I was like, oh shit. And when they said they was interviewing Cliff Kubiak, I was like, oh, okay. I like it because I know what style of plays come from. I know who his daddy is. He's like, I was just daddy was the coach of the Bears at one point. So we don't see what will happen this Rams game. I think this Rams game is going to be more evil-fluced versus the big play anyway. And I still have my thoughts around the LA Rams. That scares the shit out of me. Yeah, that scares the shit out of me, yeah. And I also have my thoughts around the LA Rams in Chicago on the 12 o'clock game. That matters. But I will say this with all that that I just said, when a player comes out and say the things that Mercedes Lewis said that went on in the meeting, that's what gives me concern. It's not that they had the meeting. It's what was discussed. And I believe that in any leadership meeting, I'll talk about needs to stay at house. The fact that Mercedes Lewis, the OG, not only in the team of the team, but of the league, comes out and says that we need to be coached harder. We need to be this. That's when it becomes an issue. Not that you had a meeting, but what came out of the meeting and that y'all are speaking about what happened in the meeting. That lets the Rams know that y'all food. So that's what I don't like. Leadership meetings. We need that in house, now that it's out the house, now it gives us more shit to talk about, and that does not help the situation. And before we go to get into content, Mercedes Lewis brought this up twice, because he also has a new podcast with Cat. Nickus B. Pod, and that's what it is. And with Cat. This thing though. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. You say he has a podcast with Cat? Yeah, so Cat has... Oh, shit. Cat launched two podcasts on his network. Big Dog has a pod, and Kevin Bar has a pod. And yeah, I think that's it. And so they be on Cap shit like one of them. Cap, Cap, Cap, Cap, Cap, Cap, Cap. Yeah, so nothing. I kind of got a problem with current players having podcasts. Like, you know, we're getting to the Cowboys Giants game later, but we know that Micah is going to be out for two to four weeks, maybe longer, but we know that Snig is not going to stop pod. And this was Draemar. At least Draemar got both titles already. So it's kind of like, okay, I'll give you that pass and that. I don't want to see Andrew's podcast. I think you were working. Like, that's just how I feel. That's a whole nother different rent. But Dante, tell me what you feel about these leadership meetings, and do you think already that's time to look at Ryan Paul's decision-making? I don't mind that leadership means I actually encourage leadership meetings, especially when you have an outcome like they had. Well, you have a veteran like Mercedes Lewis, so I'm sure that was intentional where he was the one who came out and said, "No, I caught this harder." Like, you know, these are grown men in this building. And so, you know, I'm more concerned. And I think to me, that's points to them walking on eggshells with Caleb and saying, "Okay, we've heard the diva thing and we want to make sure he's comfortable." And so, you know, we're going to sit here and play paddy cake with this shit as opposed to, you know, doing what football coaches do. And that's, you know, iron sharpened iron making sure their team is ready every Sunday. You know, there's been plenty of plays where they just don't look prepared. Like what I heard on Pat McAfee when Adam Schefter said that Shane Waldron put up all the plays that he got. He fucked up. You know, he said that was his wrong, whether it was a lineman or just a wrong play call at the wrong time, you know, going through that for the whole game. I think that was dope and that's something that you want to see just a coach hold himself accountable. And as far as Ryan polls, the offensive line has been an issue. And, you know, as a former offensive lineman, I don't know if that's just his blind spot, but he's going more so for the diamonds in the rough as opposed to investing what he truly needs to invest in that. But you're at a position where now you reset that clock. So it's now is the time more than ever to blow a bag on our office on several offensive mama at this point to protect your key assets. So, I mean, I know that's easier said than done because, you know, people lock up the best offensive mama. So you have to go through the drive, go through the drive. But I've praised too much of his decision making to sit here and I'll suddenly be like, well, he's bad at this shit. No, he has his flaws. I think we may have given him a little too much praise too soon. But in terms of, you know, questioning his decision making outside of the Nate Davis deal. I feel like now we can officially say Nate and Chase Claypool are the two misses, you know, in a Ryan polls era that we can officially like mark down. Don't forget about a homeboy over in Joby. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, we can put that one. And, you know, and if Vila's fucks up again, I'm going to put Vila's on that list. But, and I'm not saying gentlemen, just can't have misses, but I feel like the off the the coaching thing with such an obvious thing to change. Yeah, you. Yeah, because we mainly because even though you weren't here, you've seen this city perpetuate this cycle, but you have a lame duck coach with a new quarterback. Like the last thing you should have did, if there was any, if there was ever a time for him to stand up and say, Mr. McCasky. I understand y'all don't like firing people, but listen to me, like if we're going to, if we're going to wipe it clean, let's wipe it clean and get an office of mind in here to really mold this kid. So, I mean, we want to live with it for right now. But in the more even, you know, if they do, you know, they would have to really turn it fully around and go back to the 12 when prediction for me, but it's looking more and more like Caleb will have another coach. Within his first, you know, two, three years in the league. I don't see. There's no one to me because it was avoidable. It was avoidable from the beginning. Um, and that's just that that's something I just can't get over like it ain't anything the same water thing that annoys me it's the matte influence thing. It was so obvious, bro. Like, they're going to start over like it just don't matter like just starting over anything, get rid of everything. I said a year ago. I reported it. Adam Jones reported it. People went in my hand when I said this last year, I said, this nigga flu's not going away. They believe him buddy, I didn't say he should have came back. I was telling niggas what it was. And it just the bar ball thing was never going to happen. It just was never going outside the fact that Kevin Warren cases niggas guts. I didn't know the bears are never given a coach the power and the money that a guy like Jim Harbaugh wants to spite the fact that he's a prodigal son, and everybody in the franchise loves them. And this was never going to happen. But I just don't understand deciding to, okay, we're going to rebuild the house. Right. We don't, we don't, we don't, we don't knock this house down. You know, we don't keep the shady foundation at the bottom and we're going to try to build this joint on top of that. It just don't make no sense. So to me, that's what was more annoying, even more than the shame, Walgian hiring. You know what I'm saying? Because even people want to say, Oh, this shit, it got Clint Coopiac. Clint Coopiac never called plays for this year. And honestly, it's too early to say Clint Coopiac's good. Week three, he looks, he looked, he looked, he looked, did not look good as he looked week one and week two. So I'm not as mad with the shame, Walgian hiring as I am with the, with the bringing even flutes back then. And that leads to my next question. This Sunday is a massive game. It's a massive game because I believe this, there's a huge difference between two and two and one and three. Two and two, you feel good. Okay, we got the first quarter. Five hundred, we still got, what, three one more games in a row coming up after this Panthers, Jaguars and the commanders, you know what I'm saying? And I don't think Arizona's great, you know what I'm saying? You're in a good position. Well, if you're one and three, this is going to be extremely long, 13 weeks. Now you can have to make some very, very hard decisions in Hallesaw because he got switched her stuff up. Bears don't fire coaches midseason and honestly to be real. I don't think we're firing midseason will help anyway because he's going to play his flutes with. You know, you're not going to play some with Shane Walgian because there's already questions about Walgian. Your placement Eric Washington, Eric Washington is already a defensive minded coach. And then you got to find your new defensive coordinator. So like to me that there's too many different holes to fill up. If they did that, I could see things like Chris Morgan getting fired. Office of line coach running a coordinator. I can see maybe Shane Walgian getting his duty said, I can see stuff like that, but I don't see them getting fired, but I've already take away my team with prediction. Because they'd have to win nine until next 14 and unless this offense just wakes up and becomes really, really good. I just don't see that because we're struggling through the easy, the easy part of schedule. Once, you know, we get around Thanksgiving and you got to play the Packers. I think November 17th or something like that in 13, that's when it gets hard. And that's the problem I have more and me too is just looking like can't Caleb Williams and Roma do is a get through this crack without picking up too many bad tendencies. That's kind of where I fixed it. But then go out there and win on Sunday and I'm not talking about a win with the defense holds it down and often only scored 14 points. That's still feel a little bad about that. If I get a win with the offense showing some signs of life, then I feel good. If not, it's going to be a very, very long 13 weeks. And also saying like I tweeted last night that the fate of Chicago sports on the line. I was joking, but I was also dead serious. We know the mess is going on with Chicago Scott will talk about that in about 15 minutes. The White Sox getting ready to set the worst record of all time comes with the playoffs again. The Bulls going to be terrible again in a black house and another real good. If this bear season goes down a toilet, what do Chicago sports fans have? And that's what I'm worried about. And I do not feel good about this game. How much do you think is going to line this upcoming? That's a loaded ask question. Damn it. This is a must game. Let me first say this is a must win game because this is a tiebreaker game too. This is a game where you lose to the Rams later on this season. This has tiebreaker ramifications to it. So yes, this is a must win game. If they lose this game, I told we had this conversation in the group chat where we was talking about Def Con, right? What Def Con is this? And I think that the Bears currently right now sit at Def Con 2 because now you have in leadership meetings and the leadership meeting information is coming out. You have Shane Walder and saying, you know what? This is why I fucked up, man. My bad. You have all of those things, right? They lose to the Rams. We're Def Con 3. But Dean, you can make up some of that with some of the games that they got coming up, especially the Panthers can't. I'm more worried about the Bears losing to the commanders because if they lose to the commanders and Caleb shits the bed. Oh my God, it's going to be a nuclear holocaust in Chicago sports. This last week, it's going to look like play play. Yes, I think that week, that week, that we play them, we lose that. That's when it's like all shit. We literally got to go find a bomb shelter. Here's why I'm tempering my thoughts though, because I know people are trying to use some of the stuff to kill Caleb. But I'm listening to the people that I know that no quarterbacks and they saying that the coaching is the issue. And the fact of the matter is that that man, Caleb Williams, is shining with bad coaching. It makes me think of the Indianapolis coach, Jim Mora, all of that playoffs, all of that stuff. He goes away, Tony Dungy comes in, he takes over and we see what we got to. So even if there is a coaching change, I might have given Ryan Grace a little bit of Ryan Post a little bit of Grace here, because they gave him a choice of three people to be the head coach. Let's see what we might want to see what happens when he goes out and he says I'm about to look for my guy. And you know what, that may be a blessing of disguise. Yeah, I think my only concern about that is Caleb having to start over again. But you're right about that. Jim Mora does look like Bill Walsh compared to Bush, 100%. Don't tell you what you think about what's on the line this Sunday. Am I putting too much on it or are you with me? I think you put too much on it just off the street that people panic all the time about nothing. So, I mean, I know one in three is not something we ideally want to have one forward with everybody without how I'm putting total prediction. But at the end of the day, the standard fail, you know, seems to get hot. Anything really can happen. I know we're used to expecting the worst, but I mean, I wouldn't panic too much. Depending on how the game looks. Now, if he goes out there and looks like shit, then it's like, all right, bro, what is this coaching staff doing? Because one thing we do know is we start a quote. The Kevin O'Connell said it about, you know, young coaches don't, well, young quarterbacks don't ruin. Just coaches ruin young quarterbacks or something like that. Kevin O'Connell said organizations ruin young quarterbacks more than young quarterbacks. Exactly. And like if any franchise knows that it's an although we've said, you know, we haven't have a truly invested heavily in the position. We've still done a poor job of developing talent at the quarterback position. So I don't expect Caleb to look bad because that Rams defense ain't that good. So I think it's one of those things where I wouldn't panic, but I already know that the national media and our fan base is going to panic. Like you can, you can book it right now. It's going to happen. I just want to clear if I'm not worried about Caleb, I'm worried about how the overall offense looks and how the team looks. But first, not ever I have no worries about the quarterback. I think he's good enough to actually shine through the crap coaching. I'm worried about the offense looking as bad as this look. That's what I'm kind of, and honestly, with the fan base the way it is. Yeah, one in three. I won't be on Twitter Monday and Tuesday. Let's just say that if they move on Sunday, man. Let's I'm going to go quickly go over some, you know, kind of like the personnel a little bit. So, Kenan Allen will be back this week. Thank God. Kenan Allen will be back. He said it feels much better than he did before the Titans game. He said that the Hill injury was suddenly tweaked. He wasn't a bingles practice. What makes sense? Because a lot of fucking rain out there. Doing that practice, doing a camp. And that he feels much better. Can we plan? There was some scares about Darnell Wright. Still some scares about Darnell Taylor, but all of them will be playing. The offensive line will be playing Matt Pryor. Once again starting, no Nate, Nate, no Dave Davis playing again. And the concerns this week will be Andrew Billings and Kevin Beyer, but Josh Schrock spoke to Andrew Billings. And Bill has said he's planning on planning this plan this Sunday. He doesn't think he's going to be on a snap count. So, that's great to hear. I think there's a legitimate chance that Kevin Beyer doesn't play. But honestly, I think they can get away with Kevin Beyer and I plan for about a game. I think if he does have to be missed, they'll be fine. If they miss Billings, that'd be a problem. But for me, man, I think the thing we're hearing is, you know, Roshan Johnson, you're going to get a lot more Roshan Johnson this week. And that just goes back to the terrible platform last week, like Roshan Johnson. Obviously didn't have a lot of Russian yards, but he's most successful after three. And why didn't they put him on the goal line? And then, you know, Shane Wardner said the little Hervers are goal line back. Still making sense to me. But I think you're going to see a lot more Roshan. And I think you're going to see more. Quote on quote balance attack, even though they did run the football 28 times last week. I think more Roshan will be better. But, you know, I just kind of, I feel that having Ken and Allen out there will help care of a lot more. I just want to see less and less Deandra Carter, you know what I'm saying? And I think that they have to get stuff going this week. I think Kenny will help a lot with that. Bam, what do you think about Ken and Allen coming back and, you know, will Roshan Johnson get more gears? It makes me feel a lot comfortable that the best safety blanket that you have on the team is going to be back. The OG, the vet. So I'm happy about that. I think it's going to help out the wide receiver room a lot more. It's going to help the running backs out too. Because now you got to, again, worry about four people. And I mean, what I mean by that, I mean you have to worry about Allen. You have to worry about DJ Moore. You have to worry about Roma Dunes. You got to worry about co-commit. Co-commit got a lot of opportunities to touch the ball this past weekend in Rome too. So now you can split that up as well. So I am cool with all of that. And then with Roshan, I think it is time for him to get a lot more of the lion's share of the carries. Nothing against Dionne J. Swift. But you just paid a lot of money for a change of pace back. You need Rome to bruise to people and then change that pace up. You get down to the red zone. You get down to the red zone. Yeah, you use Khalil Herbert and Roshan. So we'll see what happens. But I'm excited to have him on the team. I'm having back. Dante, what you think of having Ken and Allen back in more Roshan to do for the offense? I'm excited for that, because I really think Khalil was comfortable with Kena. And I think also just at the end of the day, having a talent like Ken and Allen on the field changes what the opposing defense has to do as opposed to buddy number 11, who was his replacement. No disrespect to him, because I think he's a really good retirement. But having him running and Roshan Kena was running. I don't think that was a recipe for success. And we saw a mixed bag with that. So I'm interested to see how the offense looks with Kena and an extra threat out there. As far as Roshan, I was a big Roshan, I'm a fan, but at the same time, it's like when the coaches aren't playing you, they see you more than everybody else. And like, although we've questioned Waldron's packages, player packages and decision-making, maybe there's a reason he hasn't been playing. So hopefully he'll show us something this week, because, you know, we talked about the talent. And obviously people always hype shit during the draft, but everybody was saying, you know, Bijan's back up. He's just, you know, just as nice. And, you know, he's going to be a good pro as well. So that would be interesting. Something to see, because, you know, that would be another little cause back. And we gave the industry a lot of fucking money. But if he can be successful, I'm all for whatever makes the offense move the best. So if that means putting Roshan in there, and we, you know, move forward, that's what it is. I think that'll be good. But I think Keenan, especially, will be good for Caleb, because, I mean, like we said, they didn't build this offense. They didn't draft Caleb to run the ball. They just, they just didn't. So I'd rather have as many weapons out there as possible. And have his three best receivers. Nick, even though Roma's questionable, right? Roma's questionable. He's going to play though. He's practicing for that. Are you practicing for? Well, yeah. So having all of his weapons available to them, I think I really want to see how Waldron can scheme that up. Yeah. I'll say this by Dionne, just before we go to our game picks, man. I think that, you know, some of the problems can be attributed to the offensive line. But I think a lot of that shit is for, but like he be running right into the offensive line, man. And there's been a lot of screen passes. That's the niggas dropped. I don't count about four or five of them. If you look at the first three games, so he has to be a lot better. But I think this obviously depends on how the offensive line Detroit Lions have. So I'm not trying to make this direct correlation. But I think they should use Roshan. Yeah. And the Anderson with the way that the Lions use Jamere Gibbs and the way they use DMO. I think that it helped a lot more. You know what I'm saying? That's the way it should be used to get the offense better and use Khalil Herbert more too. Like you got three good packs. Just be smarter about it and pick the way you want to use them. Like to sit up here and say, oh, we've got a designated red zone line. I mean, running back is stupid. Like it just it just it just don't make no sense. Whoever you think is better at the line, you. So and a lot of running backs. I forgot what coach that said this, but, you know, you just can't throw them out there. If I ran the plan, I think it's going to be good. They need to be in the floor of the offense. So I really hope that the plays that Shane Walger put on the board and the players like that. I hope all that got figured out, man. So let's go to our game picks. But the bears are a 2.5 point favorite at home because they are at home and bang. Like you said, the 12 p.m. factor, central time factor for West coast teams. And also the Rams also wanted to team. So they are the favorite in this game. I'm not going to lie folks. I don't feel good. I've had a bad feeling about this game all week. Now I want to be want to be very clear. My feelings don't mean nothing because I've had good feelings for them. So I don't think my feeling has anything to use. I mean, to do with it. I think that my feeling is just my feeling. But I think that this week, I just can't in good faith. Pick the bears with the way the offense looks the way it's been. Look, I have to see before I pick it and I think that this Rams team. They're not going to be a show. Like I don't think they're going to go crazy. First of all, they ain't going crazy. I'm physically on any team and we just know this bears defense is a really, really good unit. I don't care how good the second era of Matthew staff it is. When he plays the bears, he's still Matthew staff. He's going to throw us one. He might throw us two. So I think there's going to be plays be made. But I just feel the Rams will make one more play than they will. And I got the bears. I got the Rams winning 21 to 14. That is my favorite, my final score. I don't think it'll be a fun couple of days on bearish Twitter. But like I said, my feeling don't mean things. I had to get for the last week and they lost. So that doesn't mean anything. But I got the bears losing this week. Bang. What's your pick? How you got the Sunday going? Oh, man. I feel a lot differently. I think this is going to be a wake up game. Not only do I believe this is going to be a wake up game. 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You said as a freshman, he is a clear lock as the number one pick in the NFL draft. You know who else they said that about? Said that about Caleb Williams since his freshman year. That's why people look at that whole shit around when you talk about Caleb Williams and generational talent because you've got niggas like Trevor Lawrence who's stinking up the joint. Now, like we said earlier, it's more coaches that messes it up for players than it is anybody else. So I really don't know and have a fucking clue of how you fix Trevor Lawrence. But right now they better do it and do it fast because they gave that man way too much money to be doing what he doing right now. Toss him in. You think that the Jacksonville Jaguars are on the highway to nowhere? Or do you think there's any kind of hope here? There ain't no damn hope for that man. They really might need a seance or something because I don't know what's going on. They have to all learn AEW because it's bad down there, man. They all got to go to wrestling. I mean, I just knew this wasn't a serious team when they got a pool that everybody shares in their stadium. So that's nasty. What kind of temple bait rating stuff is that? That's nasty. It's disgusting. That's what I'm saying. So I mean, I was looking at their roster, right? I was looking to see if there's anybody worth saving on that team. There's nobody worth saving. I mean, you look at like the players that they drafted, right? And it make like they are just a terribly run organization. And it goes for every sport, right? Like I think the real issue is in general, like if your team is ran poorly, it's going to just continually show. I forgot who they picked number one. Yeah, when they pick Trayvon Walker first in 2022, I was like, oh, yeah, this is not a serious franchise. Like picking Trayvon Walker first at 2022. That's just shows you where they are and they're going nowhere fast. And someone like Bobby Slope doesn't need to go there and ruin his life. Just go somewhere else. So come to Baltimore. So replace your harbor. So that's how I feel a lot. All right. And you bring out the Bill Belichick thing is I'm going to say with a, I think my man, a hawk on ESPN said this about Bill Belichick going to the Cowboys. He works about this. Like you'll be a king around idiots. Like don't. Like I kind of feel like Bill Belichick honestly shouldn't go anywhere because I feel like he's in the field Jackson territory where like it can only go down. That's like bringing Phil Jackson out of retirement to, to, to coach the grisleys. You want to deal with him dealing with John Moran like that. He gonna force John Moran to read Zen books. Like no, nobody won't see that. Like Bill stay on the manic ass. Stay on inside. Didn't fail with Ocho and all the niggas. Fuck that record. Yeah. Don't don't ruin that. I know you want the record. I know you want to be who Don Schuler. I think has a record. Like you just leave alone, though. You, you got down shoe would be in, in, in, in rings and you're still here on earth. You won. So like Scott, I got something to add to that. I was having this. Like I had this thought the, like last week about John Harbaugh, right? Like, and this goes to like coaching all sports and just in everything in life. At some point you're the young coach, right? You're the young and up and coming coach. The next thing you know, 18 years later, you're the second oldest coach in the whole entire league. And it happens, right? It just is what it is. Like now you're looking at the mat, the floors of the world, the younger dudes, right? And that's just life with, with Bill Belichick. You have nothing to prove to nobody. You don't want to be coaching these YN's. You don't want to be coaching these dudes who are going on TikToks after their games or dreams. Man, Rod, what even a locker room? Yo, you don't want to be around these dudes doing and playing NBA Young Boy. That's not for you. This is like when this is shit. Yeah. Like yo, this is not your generation. You did what you had to do. You need somebody younger to coach these younger dudes. And that's just how I feel about Bill Belichick coming back to coach. You are a media guy now. Go be the next John Madden and leave us alone. Exactly. Dante, man. Take us home when this Jack Morris taught me. Yeah. I mean, marketing is a motherfucker. Like, they've told us travel long since that guy since QB1 on Netflix. So, I mean, I think this is a byproduct of that. You know, the fact that youth sports has become a business and kids are coming up and able to create these profiles. And if you have talented match with their profile, then you get situations like this where, you know, travel long definitely has the talent. But I mean, he's been given the benefit of the doubt so far. And it hasn't panned out. I think, you know, dating back to my season. He's what most like eight starts in a row or something like that. But, you know, it's a situation where because, you know, especially, you know, I've lived in the South since 2007. And bro, it's really football cheeses down here. I tell you, you meet people from Lawrenceville who talk about travel Lawrence. You know, they've dismissed the Shawn Watson, but it was usually one in one eight. Those are the two they would talk about. Even with Justin being from Kennesaw, those are the guys that they were like, no, you know, Georgia's producing some of the best quarterbacks in the league. And so to see the turn is taken for Trevor. If you're Jacksonville, you already invested in them. So you really have to find a coast that you think can fix them. Like, it's that simple. You have to find a offensive minded coach, Doug Peterson wasn't that guy. You saw how it ended in Philly. So I don't know why you thought it would be different, but we've seen the cons, you know, despite their enormous wealth, they don't make the best decisions. We've seen that, you know, whether it be wrestling or the football team. So it's one of those things where now who do they go pick up? I'm not a great bill at the guy, but it has to be somebody, you know, with an offensive pedigree that can help Trevor Lawrence get the most out of his talent. He's there. I'm not going to deny that, but so far it's just been more so advertisement and not what he's actually been putting out on the field. Yeah. And you said like he's football. G's out there. They do level. And I think that's mainly kills. He's white boy. You know what I'm saying? It's just really what it come down to. Man, let's go to a team. There already no toast is a take on this. It's Cincinnati Bengals. The Cincinnati Bengals right now are open three. We had a topic last week. Who is more in trouble being on to the Ravens or the Bengals? Most people took the Ravens to be more in trouble, but the Bengals lost the game. They should have won. I'll say should have won. But again, they had no business losing to the commanders on Monday night football. And now man, they're on three. They've got a gimme game. I want to say gimme game, but game they should win on the road in Carolina. We got Andy Dalton, who looked anything not like Andy Dalton last week. They got to win that. And then they got to go and on the face of Ravens again. My question for everybody in. I already know toast is answer. I'm going to go to him first. All the Bengals done. I mean, let me say this. Whenever Lamar Jackson is healthy, they ain't done shit. Okay. And there's only two teams in the AFC North has won Super Bowls and it ain't the Bengals. And it's not the Browns. There's a Steelers in the Ravens. So all I'm saying is that they've had Chad Johnson. They've had a whole bunch of different players and they ain't done shit. So I'm not scared of them. Never have been. Never will be. Don't care about them. So Joe Burrows really nice though. Jamal Chase is nice, but they don't scare me. They do dumb stuff too. Like why would you draft Daxon Hill and like the first round just doing dumb stuff like that. So, you know, I'm not scared of them. And Andy Dalton beating the beating the Bengals would be hilarious for me because that is AFC North heritage right there. So I would love for him to go down, you know, go and beat the Bengals. It made me very happy. Yeah, I'm not like I said, I'm standing beside Joe Burrow. My reason for thinking that they are done has nothing to do with Joe Burrow. I think that defense stinks. I think we saw signs of it in training camp. When I saw the Bears, one and two teams, modem niggas down in the joint practices. And I thought maybe it's just a bad day for the defense. But it looks like that's just who they are. I think they're going to beat Carolina, but I think it's going to be a lot closer. They need to be when you have a bad defense, you're basically needing. Burrow and Jamar and T Higgins to be. Perfect, and they don't really have that much run game with Joe mix and guns. I think that I don't know if they're done, but they, they, they, they pull up the dumb bullet bar. Dante, what you think about the biggest chances going forward? I don't know how Joe Burrow's wrist is, bro. Like, you know, we've seen them, you know, talk about keeping the ligaments one, keeping them, you know, loose or whatever. So I think it all just depends on Joe Burrow, you know, but that being said, I think this year, again, three games in his way too early to say a team is done, but it's not looking good for them. You know, Jamar Chase looks checked out one more each week as the time goes past. You know, you saw the video that went viral of them coming out of the locker room. You know, people are running out running out to use these more, just kind of walking like, all right, I'm going to come. I'm going to show off the work, you know, I'm here. So I think, you know, they really got to get that situation under wraps and get him back bought in, and that could change things. But right now, I think the bingo is just not looking good for the minister vision. Bang, I know you, you stand beside Joe Burrow as well, man. What you think about the team? Oh, man, I am, I'm not worried, but I'm looking at them funny and light. They got to trade T Higgins or Jamar Chase. One of them got to go, and they got to go this year, and they got to go before the trade deadline. You got to go ahead and bite the bullet and trade one of them. And quite honestly, the way this season going, maybe both of their heads, they need pieces. That defense is terrible. And you're now in the division where the weakest team in the division looks like they're one of the strongest. I am worried about Joe Burrow's health. That risk, risk, I don't know, I mean, never really been a situation like this in the NFL, and I picked him to win the MVP. So, and I picked the bingo's to go to the Super Bowl. So, I still think they have a chance. They haven't really got too deep in the division yet. We'll see that. But it's definitely a cause concern, and I think they need to shake up things a bit and trade Jamar Chase or T Higgins before the trade deadline. Oh, yeah, I think that definitely T Higgins. I would keep Jamar by definitely understand the reason, man. One last topic before we move on to our picks for the week. No, no weekend bets because Mikey sick. So, the gamblers, you're gonna have to fend for yourself this week back next week for that. But Jane Daniels, I think we'll be remiss if you don't talk about Jane Daniels and the performance he put up on Monday night football performance that got the computers. Putin had everybody just wilding. Call him the next season. Stroud and all the bands picked their own quarterback. You want 21 or 23 to touchdowns. The question I have is, is he up next. This is what I said about Jane. And by the way, I reposted the real that I reposted a couple months ago. I actually predicted the commanders to be a fake decent team. The ship everybody out there was calling me a Jane Daniels hater. I said in the off season, I thought he was going to be decent and I thought this team was going to be at least fake sneaky this year. I think that he can be good. I'm not fully sold on him being up next. I think if you look at the first two games of the season that he had, they were kind of game managers. And even in this one, he didn't throw the ball that much. Only threw the ball 23 times. And even everybody keeps saying, oh, they didn't, they didn't put, they didn't put, like, yeah, but also looks like first off in the touchdown. They scored in the air this week. So everything they killed the bears about was kind of the same thing here. So I don't know if I'm ready to say he's up next, but I do think he's got a great start to the season. I do think that Cliff Kingsbury knows how to use him and kind of make the game easier for him. I think this last game was the first time they kind of took the handcuffs off that we didn't see in weeks one and we two. So I do think it's a good start, but I got to see a lot more. He's still a very skinny dude, very skinny frame. I think the more defense is going to want to see how he's going to react. You hit the nigga more. So I think that's something we got to see as well. I just feel like a lot of people have been doing a little bit too much. That's also what happens when you dominate on a primetime game because everybody's watching the world is watching. So those kind of reactions are going to happen. I think he's good. I think you have a somewhat decent, a decent season, but I'm not ready to go off and jump off the building and say he's done. So what did you see from his debut this week and what do you think his trajectory can be to be a very good quarterback. I mean, the kid is nice. I mean, he's a good quarterback. It's like you said, it's the commanders. So something is going to go wrong because that's just the way that franchise is. But he looks good. I'm glad he ended up finding Terry because Scary Terry was getting open and I was like, is he going to find him? And he did. So yes, confidence. The only thing I'm scared for him is like that boy needs to learn how to slide and avoid hits. I know they said a lot about that, Mark. Yes, he cannot slide. Yeah, I know they said about Lamar knows how to get out the way. And that's one thing he needs to learn how to do is like, boy, you keep taking all these big ass hits. That's not it. Please learn how to slide. So the kid can throw the kid can, you know, he can do things. So I'm beside the C1 when the Ravens playing too, because I want to see him against like tougher defenses, but the kids got it. So it's just more so can they build around him? Can they build a better line for him? Can they, you know, keep him protected and things like that? I won't be on DC at DC for this game. That's my birthday weekend. I love DC. If I don't want to work on my birthday weekend, so I will not be at that game. But we can't. Taylor Williams and Jane Daniels, and it's going to be some overreactions coming out of that game either way. Um, babe, what did you feel about what you saw from Jane Daniels and this potential? Um, I'm happy I saw what I saw for the commanders. DC's been looking for a quarterback since, um, Doug Williams. I was about to say Doug Williams. I will go say, um, RG three, but there he is, his leg went the wrong way. Um, but, but they've been looking for somebody. I mean, if, if you want to keep it a buck, I mean, Mark Ripken won a Super Bowl with this all with this team. Um, and, and Doug Williams did too. And, and Joe Thaisman did too. So maybe he's that person that's going to carry them. I, I think I feel good more for the division, right? Um, when you look at the quarterback's in that division, you got Dak Prescott. Of course. And he's not the highest player in NFL history. You got Daniel Jones. That's not going nowhere. Um, and then you got Jayla Hurts. So you have three of the four quarterback's in that division. Um, that as long as all of them stay healthy, they're going to battle each other for years. And the NFL East is like the premier division in the NFL, right? That's the division that everybody talked about. I mean, even though we're from the black and the black and blue north division. Um, everybody love what they get out of the NSC East, all the rivalries and stuff. So I like it from that standpoint. As long as he stays healthy, he slides and he continues to grow. They got something for the next couple of years. So I'm excited for them. Don take man. Call this out. What do you think about Jay? Y'all need a dog? That's fine. That's fine. I don't know what that nigga said. I don't know what's going on with his mic. All right. All right. Earth to Dante. Do you hear something on your side? I don't know what he said. Put in the private chat. We're going to move on to the next topic. Uh, we're going to do, uh, the picks for the week. Uh, our rapid picks for the week. Uh, I want to start off. We gave our picks for the Bears game, but, uh, tell us, and I'm going to get your pick for the Bears game and what you think about what you're saying. For the Bears are going to be at home against Los Angeles Rams this week. Uh, I think the Bears are going to win. The Rams are just, they're, they're bad right now, man. They're hurt all over the place and I think that the Bears should be able to close that one out. So is, what's the call back? Um, I forgot the all receiver who's out. Yeah. He's back. He's back there. I think y'all should. Y'all should be good. Y'all should be good. What do you think about what you seem, Caleb, like from an outside of perspective? Caleb is going to be fine. I think that there's just a lot of pressure because he's number one pick, obviously, but, you know, y'all got to get your offensive line right. That's number one thing. Y'all got to get that boy killed. Please, please fix that line. This is coming from somebody who has a terrible offensive line too. So please go get that boy protected. Um, so yeah, that's, that's the only thing I got to say is that the kids going to be fine. Here's a lot of potential, uh, painting nails or not. I know people still talking about that kid going to be alright. So it's just protect that kid. Please do. He would definitely be out there. And Nick is about a 13 million dollar house on Lake Michigan. That shit looks splendid. I didn't even know that Nick has had mansions, big mansions like that. And like, I'd say how much I don't know about Lake Forest. I was just a lot of rich, rich, rich, rich niggas out there. That house looked like a Logan Roy house now. So, but, uh, our first game, Jets, Broncos. Uh, this one will be in New York. Uh, we got Dante. He's back. Uh, he's got his audio fixed. There we go. Uh, you fuck Google Chrome, bro. Like my shit is growing. I was getting a little, the little spinning rainbow circle I could do. Yeah. I'd have been broke. Yeah, man. But, uh, Jets, Broncos, uh, the Broncos got away last week, but, well, this team is not good. And like I said, I do not like Sean Payton. I won't forever root against Sean Payton. I just think the Jets are starting to get a little bit more steam. Uh, this will be, of course, they had like a, um, feel like a, uh, revenge game from the down packet last year. But now he's got his boy back with him. So I know Aaron's going to want to run up, uh, uh, uh, in points up on this defense. I think it's just going to win this game. I'm, uh, we'll go this way. We'll go tosen, uh, bang in Dante. We're going that order. Uh, I'm going to do a slight flex. I met Allen Lazar yesterday. So I'm going to have, I'm going to have the Jets win. I gave him that and told him good luck. So he going to win. They're going to get a touchdown. Next time you see him tell him, fuck you on behalf of Scott Lewis. Thank you. Yeah, I have no love for that man either, but take the over. The Jets is going to beat the Broncos ass. Yeah. I got just about 10. That's about 10. Uh, this game is going to be a good one. North or North kind of packets and Vikings in Lambo field and looks like Jordan Love will be making his return. He did practice today. He's listed as questionable, but all signs of pointing to him, making his return. I think in injured in Brazil in week one, Vikings of three and O, uh, Sam Jordan was looking like a new man, but I really want to see them against the floor. What's that's going to look like? What blitzes do, uh, you know, uh, Brian Flores have dialed up for even though he's going to play. I mean, he's not 100% Jordan Love. Uh, you know, I hate picking this thing. Uh, I, I, I, I despise picking this team, but this battle floor is God. I'm sorry. Like that, that nigga know how to call plays. No, I've never seen anybody get why receivers open like he does. And I, I think the Vikings have had a good start, but I don't fully believe in them yet. I think pack is winning this one. Uh, the Vikings have always been liars. Y'all know that. Yes. The Vikings always lie. Every single year they lie. And like you said, Matt LeFlore is that guy and is absurd. His play call is absurd and I just think they're going to beat their ass. Um, so there's that. Um, Brian Flores. I got to go with him. I think that when you have an office of mine like Kevin, uh, Kevin O'Connell, but a defensive mind. Um, and Brian Flores who said that the challenge that he had as a defensive coordinator was the dissect. That Sean McVay and cow shit. Like those offices that Kevin MacCon may Kevin O'Connell runs when I heard that. That made me go, okay, Brian Flores is different. Cause that's all he's been doing. So if Jordan Love is coming off of an injury of his MCL, he's going to be worried about a whole bunch of blitzing. He's going to have to prove it. And I don't think this is going to be the game. I got the Vikings winning by seven. Uh, Vikings back there. Um, I think it's going to be 24 21 Vikings. Uh, again, I think Sam Donald shows y'all that he has no fluke. Um, and I think he keeps going from him. So yeah, question for y'all. Do y'all think Brian Flores gets a job next year? Like an ocean. No, no, nigga. Niggas don't get moped. Yeah. No, you're not going to sue me and get a promotion. Enjoy that corner. That's why. Yeah. He need to be lucky. He said a late. No, I don't know. I don't know. I got to go to the U.S.F. fail, nigga. Yeah. Cut your job. If he is white, for sure. I don't know. John Gruden. I had to do a YouTube video. So maybe not. Right. No, maybe not. But, um, this next game is a massive rivalry game as well. Uh, I think outside of NFC East, this is where the biggest blood feud on NFL Twitter. That's a Falcons New Orleans Saints Falcons lost a game that probably should want against the Kansas City Chiefs. Where Don Taylor's truly enjoying his night in Mercedes men's stadium. Uh, last week. Uh, and they will be playing their division rival in New Orleans Saints coming off a loss against Philly. Oh, man. I think this is a game that's going to go down to the wire. Um, it still should be in Mercedes men. I don't know what the weather thing is looking like. I think it's still still be at the bins. Okay. Um, I'm going to Falcons. I'm going to Falcons. I do think the Saints are going to start to come down to earth. I think the Eagles game was a beginner. I think the Falcons just got to get out their own way. I think there was the biggest issue last week against the Chiefs. And I think they're going to get it done. I'm going to Falcons by at least a field goal. I'm a goal with the Saints. Um, I just, I cannot for the life of me believe in the Falcons quarterback. I can't believe in Kurt Cousins, man. I just, I can't, you can't fool me. And that's going to go with the Saints. So you rolling with election year Derek Carr? Nah, I'm rolling with Alvin Camara. Okay. I like election year Derek Carr. You're putting up numbers. We broke it down on the show last year. Oh, election year Derek Carr might get it done. I got the Falcons by four. Four is random. Four is random. Four is random. Yeah. Where'd you get four from? Twenty four, twenty. Twenty four. Uh, twenty eight, twenty four. Okay. Okay. Uh, I will be in the Benzie in this Sunday. And I got the Falcons, bro. I'm not going to lie. I think especially with Olave, uh, that a hamstring injury, you know, I know they haven't said he's not going to play, but still you don't play around with hamstring. So I don't think he'll be a hundred percent in there. And that defense is, uh, that defense is solid, bro. They got some really good DBs on their squad. Uh, the D line has not gotten home. You know, they, I think they dare last in sacks right now. So that's the issue. But I still think they'll do enough to get it done. I make you say I think the Saints are going to come back to reality. Uh, Buccaneers, Eagles, Bucks got blown out last week. Um, Eagles barely won against the Saints. I do not like the sequence thing. I do not like, uh, Nick Serriani, AKA cheesesteak, Matt Nagy. I don't, I don't like him. Um, uh, I don't have a problem. I don't think the Eagles are trying hard to prove this to the world that they're not a bad team, but I think they are bad team. I'm going with, uh, my man, the bank show. I'm going, I'm going with, with Bacon Mayfield. I think that Bunny Colvin will call a good game defensively. And I think your car could get a good game. Against the Eagles. I'm going to go to the Bucks. They're going to get a job at the crib. You're a sick man for calling Bunny. Absolutely. I'm going to go with the Bucks too. Um, like you said, I think Jalen is good. I think the perception of Jalen is not good. Yeah. And when I was watching that team against the Falcons, I was like, yo, this is not a good team. And like you always say, Jalen was out there throwing BLTs, man. All day, bro. It's not a good thing. Not good at all. Hey, man, I had to go with the Eagles on this one. I think they're going to turn it around. I think we're putting way too much blame on Cheeseste McNacky, man, but they're going to win this game. Uh, you know, it's a crazy world when Bacon Mayfield is one of the most consistent quarterbacks in the game. So I'm going to go with the Bucks. Um, Panther's bagels, man. We kind of just a little bit talked about this game. This is in Carolina. I do think the big was going to win. I don't think it's going to be by a lot. I think they're going to win by a field goal. And I think that Andy Dalton is going to look good again. Because like I said, this defense stakes, but I also wouldn't be shocked. They move. That's just where I feel about this bagels defense right now. I'm going to take the bingles in a very close win by three points. I'm a nasty hater and I'm never leaving the bingles. Andy Dalton, please shine. And they really get, please get open and do some, do some things. So that's where I'm at with it. I told y'all last week the Panthers was going to win. The bagels have lost two games that they should have won, including the first game of the year against the New England Patriots. And that's why I'm picking the Panthers. Yeah, Andy Dalton revenge tour continues because the Carolina Panthers is going to go ahead and take this one home. Uh, this is the Red Rock War revenge game. I think Andy Dalton gets it done. You know, he's probably what? The third greatest quarterback in bingles history outside of Carson Palmer and who's the other old white dude. Oh, boom. So, you know, I think he's one of those things where he's going to have a really good game. Like we said, with Bryce, he just looked lost out there. And one thing we know about Andy, for him being the vet, he can run the offense. And that's what he's going to be able to do. And this defense is trash. So I got the, I got a Carolina getting to do it. You know, what do I have? Say, uh, about, uh, when Nicky got hurt, uh, Laura put your hands around and was more carry. No, no carry. You know, that's something about Bryce. You got his job taken by Andy Dalton and his girl taken by Tyree's Max. Yeah, I think it's a soul petty. You can be the whole breakdown. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, it was. This is that bro. That's like a rock. Gee, come on, man. He's legit. He's legit 5.8 in the pocket, bro. He's. Bro, he looked like a third grader walking around and I would look, I am, I am. Look, I am, I am part of the untal, uh, delegation, but look, man, he looked like, he looked like my little cousin out there. Like I feel bad for Bryce. Representation matters for the short kings out there. Representation matters. Uh, this next game, man, Texas, Jaguars, CJ and the boys got really destroyed by the Vikings last week. And Duvall, Dame, Jones, they're going to be all four. I, I, I think it's going to be a blowout. I think it's going to wax these boards to be back in the crib and, and, and, uh, that hot stadium over that Houston. I think it's going to be nice to get right game for them. The Jaguars going to be looking at that no more pick, man. That's how it really feels about them. I mean, sometimes you just need to pick me up getting a ravenous of that against the Cowboys. Sometimes you just need something to pick you up, you know, and these Jaguars are terrible. Niko Collins and Tank Dell and Stefan D is going to eat on Sunday and God bless. That's all I have to say. And then better hope Joe Nixon don't play. It's going to be even worse. Mm hmm. Oh, yeah. Let's get right, man. I'm picking Houston. Houston by, Houston by 14. I'm, I got Houston by 21. It's going to get ugly early. This is going to be one of the games we're going to be like. Just think it's things. Uh, man, big game, another big game in Indianapolis. Uh, Colt Steel is about, I said last week. I like looking so stadium. I like it. It's a nice little modest stadium. Uh, I really love how to media parking lot. It's right in front of the stadium, saves me a walk. So I appreciate that. Um, the steel is right now trying to be foreign. Oh, uh, the offense still kind of below the, I mean, pretty, pretty bad. Let's keep moving. The offense thinks. I know, I don't bear. So I was going to act like these niggas is the 2007 Patriots, but the offense still stinks. Uh, and this defense is great, but they're also going against in my opinion. I'm paying the worst quarterback in football, which is Anthony Richardson. I'm voting Steelers and I think steel is going for enough. Yeah, I don't like the Steelers either, but Anthony Richardson, man, he can throw. But not that one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, Steelers, they're going to have fun. The DB is going to have a lot of fun. So Steelers going win that one. You better hold JJ. Why let him live? Like he might even have time to throw the ball. Yeah. Y'all already know I'm picking the Steelers on this one. Anthony Richardson has asked. Uh, yeah, I think the Steelers continue to, uh, Arthur Smith continues to, uh, give Justin Fields more release to do more. And, um, I think they beat this coast by 17. I think I don't think it's going to be particularly close. I can see that. Yeah, I can see that. Um, it's nothing going to be actually kind of sticky. Good game, man. You got the car news at home against the commandos. Uh, two teams that, you know, kind of middle in the road a little bit. Two teams that have a quarterback to. I feel kind of play a little bit the same. Um, I'm going to go with the Cardinals in a very close game. I think that. Margaret Harrison is really starting to show y'all who he is. But we all knew he's going to be. I think that, uh, this team, uh, defensively is a little better than the, than the commander's defense is right now. And I just trust. Kyle Murray, a whole lot more than I trust. Jane Damn's this particular point in this group. I'm not going to go with the command is win, but I'm going to go with the Cardinals in this. I would say I'm going to go with the Cardinals, but I just feel like there's going to be something so funny about Cliff Kingsbury going back to Arizona. Oh, I got about that story. Yeah. So if they do win, uh, it would be funny to see Cliff can very get a sneaky win. I'm going to go with that. I'm going to go with the command is just slightly edging it up. You got a back scratch? Yeah, man. You got it. You want to do. Yeah. That's right. And we call that nigga. Oh, that's crazy. I ain't seen that. I didn't see that. I didn't see that. I didn't see that in a minute. Hey, man. Hey man. Cliff Kingsbury revenge game. I got the commanders. I got the commander. Left hand up. Who are we? The commanders. That's just a hard one. I ain't seen the white play that song yet. Yeah, it's about time to play. Run that song back, bro. Um, we just want to get right game. This should be a get right game for the night. I say should. Because the niners shouldn't have lost that game last week. Um, we heard from, I think it's Michael Lombardi said today that they're going to start testing out. Chris McCaffrey on Monday. I still think the niggas cook. But, uh, I'm going to niners. I'm going to niners by 10 over the Patriots this week. The only good thing I say about the Patriots is that Jacobi Jones. I mean, Jacobi for set stays with a job. Um, so happy for a black man to keep getting paid. But other than that, there's some shit. I saw them like I've seen them that team played. They can't do anything offensively. So yeah, the niners should get right. Niners better win this ball fun game. I got Sam Fran by 14. Yeah, they better. They lose the Patriots. We got to have some conversations and then they lose the Patriots. Listen, this next game was another game that this team better win. I think, uh, I saw you tweet this man. Raiders and Browns in Vegas. Um, if I to adults will not be playing, I think he has a hamstring injury. He will be out. Uh, we got, um, Gardner mentioned who got bench last week for eight. No, kind of, but he will be starting. Uh, if the Browns can't win this game, my nigga. You're going to see another 27 accused us come out next week. That's going to be a new tape. It's going to drop. They're going to really get freaky shot out here. They moves these niggas. I'm going to take the Browns. But I'm not all that confident. We're not talking that move. I'm going to take the Browns by like five. I know it's a random number, but it's going to be an ugly field goal type of game. I'm going to go with the Browns in this one. Uh, the Raiders are without five starters. They're missing six players. So man's crossbeats out. Malcolm Coons. They are Mumford. Divine Delbo. Um, Devontay Adams and Michael Myers out. So if the Browns don't win, um, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Come and get your boy FBI. You know exactly what I'm talking about. Look man, the fact that Antonio, um, said that it was some people that made some business decisions and two star players is out. Looks funny in the light and that's why the Raiders is going to win this game. Go ahead and call FBIG. Yeah, you're going to get some motivated players on that Raiders side because of what they coached said last week. I would not be surprised if the Raiders win this game. That's why I'm picking the Raiders. He's both. He seems terrible. I think it ain't had a worse. I'm a ghost. I mean, I'm, I'm like you Scott. I don't want to pick him, but I think Cleveland to get it done just because they have so many players out of you lose this game. Y'all look fine. Definitely man. Chargers Chiefs. Now the Chargers have some injury concerns. Justin Herbert is questionable with that ankle sprained. He did play last week. Didn't look too great. Um, I know that Joey Bolson in practice. I think a little math in practice as well, but honestly, you know, it's healthy. I'm still picking the Chiefs in this one. Um, so Joey Bolson is out. Um, Junior Colson might be out as well. Justin Herbert might be out. Also Greg Roman runs their offense and I've been, I've seen Greg Roman in person. Like that's, you know, I've seen spiritually for way too long. Um, they basically the Ravens West. That's what they are. Um, they're not going to win. So that's all held to the Chiefs. Yeah. Uh, I'll take you to the Chiefs. Uh, if there's any Kansas City fan in Los Angeles looking for a seat inside of the beautiful so far stadium, let me know. You know, I got you. But no, I'm, well, I'm a go, I'm a go, I'm a go, I'm a go, I'm a go, I'm a go, I'm a go, I'm a go, I'm a go, I'm a go, I'm a go, I'm a go, I'm a go, I'm a go, I'm a go. I mean, I see what Hallbogg is trying to build, but they still, they're missing some pieces and I heard us on 100%. So I got to. Uh, next game, Sunday night football, this is the game of the week to me, man. Uh, M and C Bank Stadium. Uh, and I feel like the M and G's and bars more feeling good. Man, I just saw a picture on the pit nigga. You got all the nigga slip trials back to town, nigga. You got, uh, you know, I saw we, babe, couple of niggas. I don't know what they got coming out, but, uh, big game on Sunday night football, you we playing going against the three and no Buffalo Bills. Uh, I am going to take the bills. I think it's going to be a very, very close game. I think both quarterbacks are going to show out, but I trust the Bills, uh, play calling a little bit more. I trust Joe Brady a little bit more right now that I trust the Ravens. I'll play calls. I'm going to go with the Bills. I think they knew the four notes. I know you got the Ravens, but how you got the game going? Uh, first and foremost, I've never picked against my team. I don't even care. I don't care. I don't care if we plan against Jesus, Allah and Buddha. We never go lose. So we went all black and Baltimore. Like I said, if we lose this game, then has gone wrong, but I think it's going to be a tight game. Um, a defense needs to like wake up. Uh, Rokwan has been not Rokwan this season. He's looking like a little heavy. Uh, we look like we're eating too much catfish. So I got the Ravens winning. Um, we just have to figure it out. Um, but we'll get our shit going. By the way, Mark Ingram is one of our legends of the game before. So you know how Mark Ingram is. So we'll see. Uh, I got to go with the Buffalo Bills, man. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Caucasian Cam Newton is going to go ahead and take it home, man. Uh, I'm going with the Ravens, man. Uh, I'm going a little more. I think the more gets it done at the career, black in the blackout, you know, the atmosphere is going to be crazy. Um, you know, a lot of times when those wire niggas pop up in Baltimore, they come to the Ravens game. So I wouldn't be surprised if you see them there on Sunday. But, um, I think it's going to be a really, really dope game. I agree. This is probably the game. This is the game of the week. I'm going to go with the Ravens. Carmelo Anthony Deaf is going to be there. Yeah, well Carmelo, Carmelo picks and chews when he wants to be from Baltimore when he wants to be. No, he, he always from Baltimore and that's why I said he from Baltimore, but then they can be when he be in a nerd, you know, I'm Brooklyn. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. My little claim of Brooklyn is like, I ain't claiming Atlanta. You only have a couple years, my nigga. Let's relax. Um, we got another, we're going to wrap it up for these two. It's another Monday night football double header. This first one, I will not be watching. Dolphin's Titans. I don't care who's going to win, but I'm going to go with the Titans because I have no idea who's starting for the Dolphins. So I'm going with that. And the second Monday night football game in Detroit line Seahawks, I think it's going to be a really, really good game, but I'm going with Detroit. Unfortunately, I picked Detroit to come out the NFC and go to Super Bowl. I don't believe in Seattle yet. I think it's a little hot start and we'll be talking about these niggas like a month. I'm going with Detroit. Uh, so apparently the Dolphins going to start Tyler Huntley and somebody who's seen him up close and personal. I'm going with the Titans. Um, 10 niggas. Not good. You're talking about pro baller. Hey, listen, I'm talking about when he was doing fake decent. Everybody's like, Oh, maybe y'all shouldn't play Lamar. Y'all should just. Yeah, I was like, I'm like, go to hell. Go to hell. Um, Seahawks. I got them winning because I believe in Mike McDonald. So, oh, okay. I hate the only one that's picking the Seahawks. I'm picking the Seahawks. Hey, I thought I was going to be along here. But I'm picking the sea, the Seahawks over the lions. Um, and I got the Dolphins over the Titans, man, no matter what will levels his ass. He's so asked that I don't think he's going to finish this game. Oh, you think we see a man from Pittsburgh. We see Mason Rudolph Jack Mason Rudolph. Okay. Yep. He's a home. Um, I got to go. I obviously tightened some of the Titans in that game. I did the Dolphins. That's a crazy situation at the end. I think, like I said, they need to call the Panthers and go get pressure. But I think the Dolphins are going to take the hill on that first game and the second game I got Detroit. Bro, like a little bit of, Hey, the Detroit is going 13 and four, bro. Like, you know, great. You see the Tigers. Yeah, they probably play off. They can't just buy it yet. They push yesterday. Oh, my God. Yeah. Exactly. Yo, I have one thing before I've got to say about the Ravens game is going to be so fucked up, but I have to say. I really want to see Derek Henry against the more handling and that's. Yeah. I just got to see it there. Derek Henry, all black against the more handling. I got to see that. I'm so sorry. Like you're going to be on the sideline. Like a smokey. Shoot him. You came back to life for this. I want to see this. I got to see this. I'm sorry. I had to say that. I was holding that. I was holding that back so much. I had to let it out. I'm sorry. You said it before Dante was going to say it. You know, I let bro live. I let bro live. No point intended. I'm done with it. Oh, the God. God, let him see. Oh, man, that's all we got for week four, man. Tulsa, thank you for joining us as always. Bro course. You're going to be writing some you, you getting your pain game on, man. Tell the people what you got coming. So apparently they let niggas from Baltimore, right? It's not, it's not to hit. They're not our coats, you know, do they also let other Baltimore niggas, right? So I have a book coming out with a couple of other writers. It's called, Are we allowed to dream? Basically, we talked about soccer players and like black soccer players in a light that's not really shown about how they like sort of superhero. So that book's out available for pre-order. It's called, Are we allowed to dream? So very excited for everybody to read that. It's a project I've kept near and dear to my heart, like last year, but it's finally coming out. So very excited for everybody to see that. Definitely man, stay in tune with Tulsa man. If you're also a big soccer slash football fan following his show, The shirtless plantain show, I'll be making my Tottenham debut in two weeks. I'm looking forward to going there. It's going to be a fun time. I'm looking forward to being on the field too. I saw what the press boxes look like. They got us at the 50. I'm feeling enjoyed that win a loss. That's going to be a time. They have a brewery inside the stadium, so they don't want it to be it. So that was another reason I didn't remember where I was until after last year. Oh, we're going to be so up. I'm just going to be like the uncle who pull out the phone every two seconds, he walking. I'm going to be going to pitch a video, take a n***a into a week. Oh, they snap phones in London though, so be careful more n***a. You're going to enjoy it. That's one of the best stadiums, like apparently in the world. I still think Mercedes is the best stadium I've been to in my life. I love Mercedes. So far I've never won on my list. Have you been to Tottenham yet? No, I have not been to Tottenham. I would never go to Tottenham because I have deep beef with that team. It's an amazing stadium. It's fan friendly. The catwalks are spacious, drink stations literally fucking everywhere you turn. You can get a beer, you can get some food. It's hella exits in and out. For people who are not soccer fans, soccer teams are big on their history. They have the Tottenham Museum next door with all the trophies in it. Like that shit is like A1, and it's dope because it's sitting right in the neighborhood. And they got no trophies, so. Yeah, right, so I can only imagine what like Man United Man City or going over the Spain and seeing what they got over there. Like I'll say this more. Don't go to the main other stadium. I'll produce it if you just said I'm going to tell you, you can never catch me there. So yeah, y'all got soccer reasons. But a testament always get the highlights you broke, man. What will highlight you next time? All right, man. Y'all be easy. Take everybody. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. We're going to spend the next 15 minutes, last 15 minutes of the show. We're a little bit of a TV review, sports TV review. Nick, why don't you laugh? My Mr. Joke? No, because I'm trying to edit in my mind what I was going to say about this Aaron Hernandez shit. Oh. Well, that's just me right too. Before we get to Mr. McMahon, I was going to talk about my people to Aaron Hernandez show. So if you haven't checked out, there's a new show on Hulu FX, Disney Plus, and Hernandez. It's American sports story, which is this limited series based on Aaron Hernandez. Obviously, this is like a third. It was actually the fourth series, you know, series that FX is done on a big event. Like they did one on the OJ like eight years ago, which I thought was phenomenal. I thought it was phenomenal. Now a little casting was great, the Cuba good and did a great job. My man, Ross from Friends did a good job as Robert Kardashian. John Travolta was great. Everybody on that, my Theo, Theo. My man, Michael, Jamal, one was in a great cast. The one they did on Monica Whiskey. They had a Carmelo Soprano. She played a really good Hillary Clinton. That was great. Cook was terrible. We talked about Cook on this show, and the Aaron Hernandez show looks more cook than it does OJ. And this is my beat. Okay. And the four episodes that I've watched are three episodes or three episodes that's been out. If I was gay, I would have a problem with the way they portraying this because to me, it kind of looks like they're saying, Oh, and Hernandez like dicks that made him a serial killer. I think that's crazy. I think that they're trying to give him my outfit to show what made him that way. And I don't think the fact that it was because he was gay. I think he was a sicker. That's why he was a serial killer and killed multiple people. First, I thought that was just a two episode type thing. And the third episode, that was just the whole thing was about, you know, it was called Prady Gay Away. That was the name of the episode. He went to church for Tebow. You know, he's having this. And I feel like they're spending way too much time on that and they're trying to make it sympathetic to the fact that, Oh, well, you know, he was abused. He was gay. Of course, he's going to go out and kill people. I think that just wildly irresponsible. I think that the casting is terrible. They just grabbed whatever white nigga on the corner to play Urban Meyer. I don't know who they took. Who's the skinny dude playing Cam Newton? Like that's hilarious. You were craft services. Come play Cam Newton. Like they took the dude who does the lights on the Fox lot and like you're going to play Tim Tebow. It's terrible. They got like I think like four or five episodes left. I'm going to continue to watch the whole thing. Maybe it gets better. But I just don't like what I've seen so far. Don't tell me what you think about what you say so far from this show. Yeah. I agree with everything you said. And really like you said back to the whole him being gay thing. One thing I don't like is when we comment on people's private lives after they did. It's the same thing people did with me Houston. They do it with Luther Vandross. It's like if they're not here to speak on that subject, I don't think it's really fair to even bring it up true or false. But this is like you said, the show has just been outrageous like from the jump. And it's like don't frame all of the nuts. He did around the fact that he had to suppress who he was for the sake of this Montrose sport. He was playing. So like the way it's been set up and people who've watched cinema with the guys. We did a full season of euphoria. So you know, it's not no home of public shit. We saying like we're just based off what we've seen. It's like knob or you could have kept this. So for them to go from OJ to the Monica Lewinsky to clip to this, it's definitely going down here. Definitely. You got me. I agree with everything that y'all said, man. It just feels like they are. It feels like they're trying to humanize him. But disrespect his potential sexuality and others as well. But it just seems nasty and not very well done. So no, this was us. All right. Final topic. Then we're going to get up out here for the weekend, man. Mr. McMahon, Mr. Kennedy. The Netflix documentary called Mr. McMahon just dropped six part docu series. If you haven't checked it out, check it out. I was a major, major WWF and I'm going to say WWF. WWF fan growing up. By the way, I love how on the subtitles, it would say WWE when somebody was saying WWF. But I was a massive fan from like 97 to about 2004. 2004 came and you know, I succumb to the, oh, nigger, you lame. You watch a wrestling thing. And also because Stone Cold and Rock left. So that was also a reason I left. But I thought the documentary was amazing. And when it originally got announced with the trailer, I didn't know if it would be not telling the truth because Vince was on it. But then when I saw that Vince was trying to get it, not the air. I was like, oh, yeah, we get some good stuff coming. And what I love about it, it was a great balance because I feel sometimes when it comes to people who got in trouble with the law because of dastardly things they've done. I feel like sometimes we ignore the things they did in their field. And I kind of feel like that's unfair. I think you can have a conversation saying, oh, did he's a sicko and then he should be under the jail without not without giving him respect for his contributions to just the hip-hop genre. I think that's unfair. I think they did a good job of giving Vince his love of what he did to make wrestling what it is today. But I also feel like, let you know, don't get it messed up. He's a sicko and he used to be in jail. And I love how they put, oh, this was, this is film before this time. This film, this film, that everybody on there. And I think that there wasn't a lot of stories that I didn't know about because being such a wrestling head, I knew about a lot of the in the ring stuff. I knew about the, the, the steroids scandal. I knew about, you know, Hulk Hogan looking at him and I and testifying, but not telling the fans what they wanted. I knew about all that. But, you know, the sexual assault and things like that, the ring boys, I didn't know that. But I felt like it was a really healthy balance. And it also kind of showed that Miss McMahon, Miss McMahon in his head thinks he's not this guy that he really is. The two things that stood out to me was, well, it's a couple things that stood out to me. One, when he, when they asked everybody what his legacy would be and nobody really had their own chances, own children. I thought it was funny when Undertaker was like, yo, I'll take a bullet for that man. And then two minutes later, what's his legacy going to be? I don't know, dog. Like, that was real telling to me his own children. And that was the real telling to me, not having a legacy. And I had a couple problems with the rock. The rock, my favorite wrestler ever, but the rock. When he went up there and said, you know, oh, Mr. Nick, this is not a, he doesn't see color. Like when you're mixed, obviously you got to show love to both sides. But I feel like he showed way more love to Simone side than he does with Black side. And that kind of annoys me. And they're not even saying Black champion kind of know me a little bit, but that, but that was something. And also when they asked everybody what's the difference between Mr. Man and Miss McMahon, Vince is like, oh, there's no comparison. They was like, oh, it's kind of that nigga. That was the stuff that stood out to me. But I enjoyed it. I think anybody, even if you're not a wrestling fan or having a history watch or wrestling, you should check it out. I thought that Netflix hasn't been doing too, too good. They doc slightly, but this one blew it at the park. Bang. I'm really interested in your opinion on this. Obviously you're a big wrestling fan than both of us. You had the first Black chant. What did you think from seeing this documentary? So we're definitely going to dive into this a bit more on this Sunday. So check it out here. But Vince McMahon is a complicated person and a complicated character. A complicated personality, right? Vince McMahon is probably the greatest promoter in the history of the world. Like he's passed any boxing promoter. He's passed Don King and all those folks. But he's also passed PT Barnum. Vince McMahon took a platform like Wrestling, which is just Carney, and made it into a billion dollar industry. Every person that's in wrestling right now, oh, Vince McMahon, thank you. The problem with that is, is that unless you're Jesus Christ, when everybody owes you a thank you, probably go corrupt a nigga. And I think that's what really happened. Like, I don't believe there's a billionaire in the world that's clean. I just don't. You have money and you have access. And because of that money and access, something ain't gonna go right. So when I looked at this documentary, it was a lot of stuff that I knew. I did not know about the rain boy scandal. Shouts out to Jonathan Hood for putting me on gay with that. But Vince McMahon, the rapper did what was best for business instead of what was best for his family in a lot of cases. The relationship with him in Shane, I thought was interesting because it was similar to the relationship with him and his father. Issues with Vince McMahon and his mom was wild. And some of the crazy things between Vince and his daughter. But everybody else just talked about how as far as like Vince outside of the building was a great guy. So it's very complicated. But when you start to learn about some of the things that Vince McMahon was accused of by the young lady Janelle Greg, you can't look past it. You can't look past it at all. And when you start to put two or two together with some of the things that happened in the eighties, lady that sued him for rape, something like that. And you find out that he gave for a multi-million dollar settlement. The whole thing about Jimmy Superfly Snooker and stuff, you can watch the dark side of the rig for that benefit for more information. And it's just very complicated. I'm very thankful to watch what I've grown to love. I grew up as more of an NWA/WCW fan. But I'm not gonna act like Montreal Man wasn't a member of the WWE fan. Montreal Man is my favorite wrestler. And I'm not gonna act like I wasn't up early to make sure that I watch Superstars on Fox at 11. But it's just nasty. It's just real complicated. And when you look at a lot of the CEOs and the billionaires that's been getting in trouble, they've all given us enjoyment pause. Like Diddy has given us so much music from the 90s on and look what's going on with him. And this a man, same thing. Just wrestling is a love of mine. And it just shows you how even nasty the wrestling business was at a point in time. So it's wild, but a great document. So definitely getting to it on first by chance. They'll do a more in-depth review on that. Before we go to downtown, it was funny. Unless you've been to Hollywood Boulevard, you don't notice. Vince McMahon and Diddy stars are right next to each other. Get the fuck out of here. A lot of people don't know that. Vince McMahon's star is right next to Diddy star. And I know that because my first trip to LA, why even moved there? I was always Diddy star, and Vince is right next to him. Right in front of the Chinese still, I think it is. That's a funny part. Yeah. All right. Bring us on with this with downtown. And I was a great documentary, and I think kind of the bangs pointed out, you know, a clean billionaire. I think with Vince McMahon, you know, his fatal flaw was outside of being a rapist was the fact that he put business above all. Like, it didn't matter how uncomfortable. Once he realized, especially getting into the terminology of wrestling, the knowing what a healer is, knowing what a baby face is, knowing, you know, how heat is not necessarily a bad thing. Vince was able to lean into that and always move the needle. He's always been someone who can just provoke responses from people. And that's something that he was great at. And he, as he gained one more power, he abused that power. And I think a lot of it was really telling the kind of creepy how he would say shit throughout where it's like, sometimes you got to cheat to win, but you just got to win. Like, I went to it. I don't care. Like he was just so nonchalant with the fact that yes, I abused my power. Yes, I do all of these things. And I don't care how you feel about it because it's gotten me this great success. And you have a lot of older white men in America who feel that way. And so, you know, seeing that on display throughout the documentary was crazy. I'm like, I'm more, I'm more like Scott than J.R. in the sense that I was a big wrestling fan as a shorty. And then recently, because my homies still watch it, you know, I picked it back up a little bit, but I've been really more so watching the documentaries and the dark side of the rings. And when you compile all that information and realize how much bullshit has gone on under Vince McMahon's watch, but he's let it slide for the name of business and nothing kind of like how we say with the NFL, nothing's bigger than the shield. Vince McMahon has never been anything bigger than the business of wrestling. Like that is his life. That is his everything to the point where the storylines were insane with his family. Like Orlando, you mentioned, they didn't mention macho, man. I really think that gave me even more belief to the rumors about the Stephanie Big Man shit. And that's why they didn't mention it. They didn't mention macho man at all. So, like you said, to mention Chris Benoit, but you couldn't mention macho man to show on my heart's blood still in the ring while you made them keep wrestling after he fell out of the raptors. Like Vince was, and even his explanation of that was so fucking cold, but he was like, he said, well, the lights were off. They didn't really see it. It's like, what? Like the man's blood is in the ring. His friends like walking into the ring, like shocked watching this. And you like, no, I brought the show got to go on. Like rolling past the rest. I was like, go, keep going. Let's rock. Let's rock. So, I mean, he was a cutthroat businessman. And, you know, unfortunately, that's something that's been praised in the capitalist society. He's always been seen as, you know, the alpha man, even though he was sitting there loading himself up with steroids and all type of other shit. So, I mean, his legacy, like you said, he falls into that same category of all the disgraced superstars we've seen from our past. You know, the Cosby's the, what's the other white buddy who in jail? Weinstein. Weinstein. You know, all of these people were also Simmons. All these people, like he falls into that category. You know, like not to be corny, but like Uncle Ben said, with great power comes great responsibility. And most of these dudes have abused that power. They haven't done the right thing. So it's fucked up, but, you know, that is who he is. I'll say from a succession comparison, one thing I'll keep talking to me. Shane, man, is definitely killing Roy. And Shiv is. Yes. Stephanie and Thomas. Oh, 100%. 100%. 100%. 100%. You could hear the pain in his voice that he did not get the W and I feel bad for Shane. Yeah. Yeah. Because I fuck with Shane, man. Yeah. He's like saying nice. You can't run a company when you nice. Yep. Yep. And they was like, Shane, nice. Stephanie is not nice. Like you could keep that with Stephanie the way she talks and when she's doing interviews and how she'll, she'll flip that switch real quick. Like I'm talking about the business side. Just like her daddy. She's like, no, no, no. There's nothing bigger than the business. Yeah. When they asked her about those storylines involved in her, she said, I know, but I'm not going to tell you. Triple like I said, that look like Nick and y'all have no idea what family I'm here like. Yeah. Triple like, I don't know what y'all can say. He married it to the mob, bro. Triple A's know what everybody's at. He's not going to say shit. Him, Shawn Michaels. That's why all the news is like, I take a bullet for him. Like I love him. John Cena. All them niggas, bro. Damn your sick. Quick talk about the episode of girls. I have to say this. I am glad that's going off TV next week. Oh my God. How about you? Hey, and it's the great opportunity to play no more drama at the end of that. Hey. Hey. And that was like, how about drama when Monetty is lit up out of it on the floor? Bro. I was like, what? What's recent? I'm the Reak St. Patrick. I killed my daddy. All right. That's too bad. That was one of the worst monologues I heard in my damn life. I said, you niggas didn't even write a script. They just said, H.E. Rick, just the scene. And we go. Act out. Go. You know what I said when I saw that scene right there? I said, damn, it's over for his career fair. He's done. He's done. He's done. He make beats too. Yeah. He make beats too. Yeah. Yeah. He's going to happen to you. He's making beats and he's doing hallmarked movies with Chloe Bailey. Yeah. That's a rap. That's a rap. That's a rap. We can't even find the job right here. One of the last things you know, Marty Hart would go to TV. That her Fast Netflix movie was just a little bit. I'm not exactly. My point exactly. That's all we got for you all today. I'm not going to hold you, shout out to some of the journalists. Anybody for watching, a lot of people on the chat, a lot of people watch on Instagram. We got our first super chat today, shot to Kobe. We'll be back on Monday, big show on Monday. Hopefully, we're talking about a bear's win. I don't want to be yelling for the top of my lungs for an hour and a half in a local hour. So hopefully we'll be talking about a bear's win. We're going to be having baseball talk. This is where Dante, Courtney and Mikey really shine. We're going to preview. That record about the break, man, this is at the top of the eighth. Yeah. The better on TV now. These stocks about to make history is the worst team in major league baseball history. They're about to lose Detroit Tigers. So we're talking about that. We're talking about the customers, the playoffs, and we're going to preview the wild call around the playoffs. We're getting on Tuesday, man. So y'all know to follow me. 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