Fox & Father
Fox & Father | Episode #26
he said to me, "If a country doesn't have an identity, which we don't, how can you ask people to integrate into it? Good question." He said, "What are you asking them to integrate into? You don't have a set of values. Your any values are hating white people," which is like, and then the other thing. But we do have a set of values. We do have an identity. Our identity is Christian nation or values are Christian values. They're just a mesh part of the liberal elite who wants to deny that. I mean, all that. But this is why people have an inspiration. Welcome to another episode of Fox and Father, where I'm the fox and he is the father. Yeah, he's left me as well. No, no. Don't start. Don't start. Where are you? I'm in Michigan and it's lovely. I'm in the land of the free and the home of the brave. It feels like it. I've noticed you've been using your free speech, recently, Calvin. I'm not racist. I just don't like. How are you, bro? I miss you. I'm good. I miss you, too. I saw you tweeted those glasses. I left a glass. You'll have to fly over and bring it with you. I will. How's it gone? How's the arrival process? How do you feel? What's going on? Good. Getting there so the rectory is under refurbishment. The bathroom, the kitchen are being redone and the building of bed as we speak. So it's all under works. I'm staying with a lovely professional at the moment. Up in the sticks, there's plenty of room to shoot around here. We'll go shooting on Friday. I've been using lots of American food, but I've been going to the gym, so it's right up straight to the gym. I'm going to explode otherwise out here. And it's just good. It just feels good. What's the biggest thing you've noticed? The biggest change? Less. Malay is. Less negativity. People just get on their lives without the government trying to impede on every single element of their lives. It's actually selling out here as well at the moment, which is nice. But just, yeah, it's just feel the vibe of the place is different. And do you feel personally that it's, does it already feel like a good decision or are you still in this wobbly place about all the stuff you had to do to actually leave a country? No, it feels great. It feels exactly right. It feels like I'm in the right place at the right time. This is where I'm supposed to be. As soon as I landed, it was like a weight was lifted off my shoulders. I love you there. They literally, like Britain's lost mate, we've got someone who will actually speak their mind and speak the truth. It's amazing. I'm really annoyed with you as you can tell, but that will pass in time as well. So you're doing well. You're in. How you went on, when did you go Sunday? So your day? Yeah, first of all day, I'm just getting over the jet lag, but it doesn't take long. But, yeah, I'm going out. Some nice places meeting good people. Lots of sound services there. Lots of Christians around here. It's just ordinary life how it used to be. Of course, a lot of it is going to be novelty. Of course, it will, but it's good to get out of London, get away from the tyranny of Starmer and its two-tiered system. Although I did say I was in the UK papers, was it today or yesterday? Yeah, when Fickin' Danroos. Yeah, we've got something in common here. I was in Wood Green police station today, pursuing near in the corps under section 128. No way. Yeah, so she called me a sex criminal. She did? She did. So I went in COVID statement today. Go to the police. And I've said that it was deeply, deeply harmful. For me, it affected my kids. My kids came home and said, "Are you like a rapist or something?" I'm like, "No." So, yeah, I'm going to go. I'm going to make sure that this defamation stuff is rubbish because it's all political. But of course, criminal crimes are crimes. And if she's busted 128, the Communications Act, then they've got to investigate it for it because that's what we pay them for. And I think what you did with Condé and Regis is exactly right. I think it's the right thing to do. I dare someone think that just because they're brown, they get to walk around being racist scumbags. I find it appalling. And I'm so pleased you did it because it's courageous to see it's what you're always looking for. You're going, "Let's do this. Let's actually fight back." And no one's got the balls to do it except you and me now because I'm going to, you know... Well, I'm factually doing it as well because the last time, you know, you called someone a pedophile, you had to pay them, what was it? £95,000? So hopefully, Narendra will have to do the same for you. I had to pay... I had to pay these little deviants. Well, I think they're awful. Well, now I can say someone's deviant. Let's not cry. You can be deviant of mind. You can be deviant of body. You can be deviant of anything. If someone called me a deviant, it's fine. That's free speech, right? It's not. I'm not accusing you of anything. They got paid the same amount of money as you would get if you were... if you lost a leg. It's ridiculous. In industrial accident. And I guarantee you won't get the same from Narendra. No way. I don't want anything from Narendra. I mean, this doesn't know what it's like to feel the touch of the law because... Sure, but it's... Walk around for engagement and clicks and trying to burn someone's life. There's no about what you want there. It's about the justice system. It's about quality under the law. It's about the fact that if it happens one way, it should happen the other way, exactly the same, but it won't, of course. There's... Does it have an equal justice system far as they're doing the parliament today? They do, they do. And this is what I'm doing the candidate thing. You know, I just found a clip of him in 2021 admitting to be racist on national television and just smirking at me. We let these people get away with it for so long that you tweeted about it. And he's the anti-racist, not just racist with anti-infront. Exactly that. And he's put out a statement to the independent, which, by the way, I refuse to comment on just a leftist rank looking to bait me. But he put out a statement saying, "How can I be racist on black?" You know, "How can the police come and question me? I'm a professor of black studies. They don't respect my fields like no, because it's not a real field. It's not a real job. And anyone can be racist." It's so true. It's like the minute you make it, you create some bullshit structure of going, "Only white people can be racist," then all of the brown racists are going to go, "Ah, it's a free pass. I can be a racist." You know, it's so silly. And also, people like Kinde Andrews, his ideas, him as a person should just be loved and nurtured and all that sort of stuff. But his idea should be stumped into oblivion. Like, into oblivion. He should be mocked. His ideas, not him. His ideas should be mocked, ridiculed, and taken down relentlessly day after day after day, until he's a laughingstock. Because that's what he is. He's a racist, laughingstock, in my opinion. That's what he is. So I'm really pleased that you went after him, and I've now gone after Nuremberg. And I'm going to go, "Okay, fine. You've been using ICIT at night, waiting for the police to come and knock on my door in the morning. You should." "I've never called you a sex criminal. I've never even attacked you. I rhetorically devised calling people a beatfire when they called me a racist and it cost an arm and a leg." And I'm like, "Okay, you insist this no-to-tier justice system, no-to-tier policing system in this country? Show me." Right. So we'll use their own weapons against them, use their own weapons against them, and then get them afraid of the system until they realize that it's corrupt and they have to change it. There's always the left that corrupt our systems in the first place. They do. So I want to talk to you about something. Okay. I met a guy called Sahil Ahmed today. Oh, yeah, yeah. I suggest everyone follows him. He's a former Mohammedan, right? He said, "Well, let me get into it a bit." Okay. So I sat down and I said, "Tell me your story." And he said, "I was raised on the 20th floor of a tableauk in late in stone, late in." And he said his moment I got married, everything was fine. Then they met another family in the tableauk who were hubby cellophists, and everything changed. So Mum started covering up to the point where she covered her entire face. Right. And they were taught in the local mosque. So this is in London. This is happening. They were taught in the local mosque about becoming martyrs, about dying for the cause, about the fact that all Christians wanted to murder them and all that sort of stuff. And he became an extremist. To the point where he was planning to do some pretty horrible things. Anyway, he decided against it because you could see the hypocrisy of the whole thing. And he decided against it. So he left Islam. And now, and this is what I want to get your take on because this is where I think you and I will disagree. Now he has said, "I've come back to Islam, but I've come back to Islam as a reformer, as someone who says the hadith, of which apparently, I mean, I don't, I know religious scholar, but he says you've got the kurran or kurran. I could say, you say it. But he was saying it a lot. He said you've got that. And then all the hadith, he said, could fill up an entire library. Yes. And it was a thousand years beyond Muhammad. So it's basically just like stories told to people in a part bench, hearsay, Chinese whispers. I think it was how he used it. And he said, that needs to be dispensed with. And you should be able to not the prophet Muhammad. You should, as probably a free speech exercise, you should be able to criticize religions. You should be able to do. And I was like, I'm turning on board. And I found this whole idea of his religion became a separate entity, because we were talking about values. And I said, you know, Christians are the same. We're trying to spread the word and all that sort of stuff. But he said some really interesting things. He said to me, if a country doesn't have an identity, which we don't, how can you ask people to integrate into it? Good question. He said, what are you asking them to integrate into? You don't have a set of values. You're any values are hating white people, which is like, and then the other thing. But we do have a set of values. We do have an identity. Our identity is Christian nation or values are Christian values. They're just a mesh part of the liberal elite who wanted to deny that. I think all that. But this is why people have an integrated. But what I really liked about him was he was courageous. He's really courageous. You know, steps away from the faith. He comes back to the faith, but he says, I have to come back to it. He used a great example, which was in either the Quran or the Edith. I can't remember now. It says, if you go to a host nation, you cannot wage war against them. You've got to obey their laws. And then some Salafah scholar turns around and goes, yeah, but that only applies to the first generation. So the second generation can kill the murder and mane in the name of Islam and jihad and all that stuff. And he was really interesting about a lot of the flags that are getting flown at these Islamic rallies. He said, those flags are active calls for violent jihad in this country. So, you know, I don't really know Arabic. I don't understand it. But what I thought was one of the things I want to do, because I've always said, shut the borders, stop talking about the simulation and integration, like the conversation is developed further to mass deportations, which I think is a really good conversation. And we should deport huge numbers of people who are burdened on our system. But I look at this guy as a really interesting example of, and he described himself, he said only about 0.5 centimeters, believe what I believe. And I said, but that's a great place to start off from. You've got 0.5% of the population on your side. And I was sort of pushing him and asking him about, you know, tolerance or homosexuality, because obviously you're sort of, you're probably aligned on that one. Not in the fact that you, but he was sort of saying stoning people to death. That's not a good thing. The age of sexual consent is a really bad thing. Blasphemy laws are a terrible thing. Intercouple marriage is a terrible thing. He was telling me that someone has done a huge amount of study into what the National Health Service spends on first cousin marriages from Pakistani family. And it's in all this. And then they bury it because they're worried about being called racist. So we may end up with a rather ungrooving gang type situation, but with, you know, intercouple marriage. And I just thought, you know, first cousin marriage, and I just thought, "Wow, what an interesting, fussy, 32-year-old guy, super brave. We don't share a faith, but he is British before he's a Muslim." You know, and that is, I found so inspiring, and I know that it upsets people, but I'm really up for opening the doors to talk to people like that. And I really want to support his work, because he says, if you can de-radicalize Islam, you can take out the extremists from Islam. You can also take out extremists from the white left. You can also take out extremists from the far right. And I was like, "Well, what's the far right?" And he said, "People, we got into this very interesting conversation where he said where we sort of agreed that the far right are very superficial. We're just like, "You're not the same color as me, you've got to go." And the far left are very much ideological. So they go, "If you don't agree with me, I want you out of here." So it was just really fascinating. It was a very brave, very gentle guy. I'm sure he's going to get a whole load of shit for spending time with me. And I just thought, "Amazing." And he was very scriptural. So I think you would have appreciated this. The way that he broke down passages in the Quran, which I was quoting to him, because I'm in my limited knowledge. And he said, "Yeah, but if you look at it like this, contextually, and I've heard Christians do this, and I like it. I didn't think it was universalism. I thought it was a mixture of literalism and interpretationalism." Do you know what I mean? I respect you. Yeah, I do. Of course, I just get to go. But that's the job that you and me to... Well, you said to me, was it on this podcast a couple weeks ago, when Majid Nawaz was going crazy, once an extremist or an extremist? I don't know if people are truly reformed in that way. Or rehabilitated. And I don't think you can de-radicalize Islam. Islam is radical. It is extreme. I don't think you can say, "Oh." He admitted that, though. Yeah, but can you say, "Oh, I believe in that much, but not that much. I take that part, but not that part. I have the Quran, but I don't look at the hadiths. I don't know if that's... I don't know if it's workable. I think that's just a bit of, "I want my cake and eat it." And maybe he... When he left, he's a lot of makeup. Maybe he got lost and wanted to cling on to something, but he had an identity. And then it wants the identity about the faith. I don't think you can follow a religion without believing in it fully. Yeah. I think that's an issue. I think that was an issue for the reformers in Christianity as well. You know, the Protestant reformers. Yeah, which is a mess. Look at it. Yeah, I got the whole things about it. And I get it. But what I was inspired by was the fact that he said I would die from my country. And I just thought that's us, England, Britain. You know, he said, "This is my country. I will live and die for it." He was very straightforward about this. So I'm always, you know what I'm like, Nazi fascists that I am. I'm always trying to find somebody who can click into what I really think is an important thing to happen, which is that whether we like it or not, he was very open. He said, "The minute you're at 10% or over with the most impoverished in the country, your country's finished." So he's very clear about that. He's like, "You need to get rid of a load of people like that." But he also made a really good point about going, "If you Westernize Muslims, they'll stop having so many children." So what does that mean to Westernize them? Well, to remind people that you're not just having a load of children so that you can spread the word of the prophet. But surely, that's the whole point. If they're not doing that, they're on faith. But is that not the duty of Christians too? Absolutely. And this is why we're failing because we're not doing that. Christians should be going for the multiply. Christians should be having families, large families, not saying, "I want two children, one boy, one girl." They should be saying, "I hope to be blessed by God with children." And however many children God blesses me with, that's how many children I will raise. And remembering that the children belong to God and that parents are responsible for the children, but not the sole barriers to the children. So yeah, all of that is Christian. Most Christians aren't doing it in the Western world. But I don't think the answer is making sure that the Mohammedans are doing it or aren't doing it in a certain manner. The Mohammedanism is incompatible with Christendom. Yeah. So, but maybe the guy is on a journey. And he hates the woke people as much as he hates far-right extremists. And I would call King Dander as a far-right extremist. That's, I would say, he's a far-right extremist. He may be brown, but he's an ethno-nationalist, isn't he? He's Steve Law's, but brown. So I would say that it's a useful tab, that kind of conversation with someone like Sarah. And he's copped a shit ton of flag online. I do like it. No, it's great that you have these conversations. This is what you started doing in the beginning when you first left acting. Like having an open conversation with people you disagree with or may not agree with entirely, but having conversations with them and finding out where they stand. But I think that's a good thing that you do. It's not something I'm bogged about. But I think it's great that you do it. Dan Wharton had an interview with, I've forgotten his name now, a nasty Mohammedan the other day. And they tag me saying, "Oh, I want to..." He said that Mohammedan said, "I want to speak to Cameron Robinson next." So I searched up on Twitter. I didn't think of it ever interacting with him, but there was a whole list of him trolling me for like the past three years. I'm like, "Actually, I don't want to sit down with you. I have no interest whatsoever in sitting down with a hostile, nasty Mohammedan. Like, get on with your own business, do it elsewhere." But I respect people that are all able to do that and put it all aside and have these conversations. Yeah. I think it's in good faith. I think that anything is possible. I share your skepticism that... And he did, too, that there is any way that Islam and the West can combine. Yeah. So we agreed. But then he's kind of... It's not really Mohammedan, is he? He kind of, I suppose, means to introduce him to Christ as what he needs. Yeah. I think that that is the position one gets to, which is that you do need to sort of say, "Well, your curiosity is such that you are genuinely inclusive, which is a price-driven word, because we are all included." Right? Regardless, we are all included. So I just found him very, very fascinating. What do you make of 9/11? What was it? What was it? Oh, what was it? Well, I see the collection. No, I see the collection now. That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. That's stupid, mate. No, I wasn't accusing you of being stupid. It just started running. Obviously, it's incredibly sad as we... As this goes out, 9/11 would have been yesterday and it's a great reminder of how quickly what we know and love can fall apart and how we have to hold it here. I don't know, personally, if it was down to the Mohammedans, or if it was down to Western governments, or it was a collusion of both of the two, or I don't really know the ins and outs of it. So I haven't dug down that rabbit hole. I haven't been getting pulled to this topic. Well, it goes to show how distrustful we are of the media that we're given, especially in terms of debate last night and all that sort of stuff. It was like checking Trump and it was lies. Yeah. And one wonders whether... I was watching the long-form conversation between Megan Kelly and Sean Ryan, I think his name is, his former Navy SEAL, and Megan Kelly is, except for the best part, three hours, and a feature-length conversation with a very, very smart human being. And I just go, "Wow." This is replaced the mainstream media. Oh, yeah. Long-form conversations between honest people. And... Megan Kelly was living about the debate by the way, doing this with you. Oh, yeah, I did. Good content. Well, I think that, but again, she invoked praise of council culture. She went, "I'm so pleased I was canceled." And I suppose there's an element of that for all of us. Like, you know, you're... I'm always hugely encouraged by the fact that you're just tough as a motherfucker, sorry, just where. But you are just so tough at dealing with this stuff and you get through it and you work through it. And I think in my own way, I do the same. And ultimately, you end up grateful for being canceled. Yeah. You know, so it's why we should always, like, sort of spend time bigging up the names of the people that we really like. And I really like that Dan Whitney is actually providing, he's sort of finding his way into this stuff, but he's providing a completely alternative voice to the main story. Yeah. And actually suffering is often sanctifying. And so in this industry in particular, we go through a journey of leaving what is a controlled narrative and getting free to talk about what's important. Yeah. What's important to you at the moment? Oh, gosh, I'm just getting... I don't like questions like this, do you? I don't know, it's fine. Obviously, I'm just going to be about to be installed as a priest of it in a new church. So just building community, getting to know everyone, getting to know who knows Christ, and being that bridge, hopefully. Are you being nurtured and looked after, and people... I am. Yeah. How's that beard coming out? It's trying. Maybe give it another week or so, but I'm just going to say... I'm a bit marmed in here, let me have a look. She had. Where's your... Perfectly. Yes, not that. Oh, a bit here. Where's that bit gone? It's still there. The camera that we're using right now, the best camera in the world. Oh, calm down. Someone's going to send us a camera and we'll have a better set up. I am going to send out... Actually, back when my blessings here and when we finished, I will ask him which one we can send out, because I'm sure there are three. There are all of these ones there. You've left me and... Come on over, tragic. I'm coming over. I'm speaking to Larry about when to come over, and he is like, "Come over now." And I'm like, "No, why don't I just come over for the election so we can do some election stuff?" That's going to be fun, and we can go and see stuff. And he's like, "Yeah, but we'll just end up tweeting about stuff all day and not talking." And so he does have a point about that. Yeah, that is fair. Yeah. I'm sure Larry will come by here on the way. Back. Still, I know that we only have a short period of time. We've got six minutes left. Right, Calvin. Tim. What is your plan for the coming week? So next week I get installed as the priest, and I'm also going to be hopping on stage to do some closing prayers at a good mutual of ours who I would have announced this week, and I announced it next week. So doing bits and bobs out here, meeting lots of people. I've met a few other clergymen out here already and try to get to know everyone in the congregation as well. But yeah, it's just being rooted in place. It's very important for me right here right now. Yeah. What are you doing? I am going to... So I've had a busy day today. I've got dinner with a friend who is a sort of advisor, mentor type friend. And then I'm going to go back to the countryside, and I'm going to get away from this horrible... You know this thing that City Khan goes on about, like London, there is dirt here. Yeah, it's not. London is not dirty. You know what's dirty about London? Money and noise. Oh, I thought you were going to say mountains. Well, yeah. I mean, no. You and I were driving in to London last week when you dropped north, and you could almost feel the cloud of gray coming over here. I should drive in. You kept pointing out, like, high-rise, high-rise, high-rise. They're just doing these rabbit-hatchers up, so people are crammed on top of each other. It really is kind of dystopian. And it's happened so quickly. Yeah, to convince someone to live in a battery-hand cage, I think for a load of money is one of the greatest tricks a devil could ever play. But we've got to talk about the 26th of October, so Tony is now committed to that. And that's going to be outside Downing Street. And now I think that we're going to progress this into a movement. So we're going to say, this is what we pledge to do. This is what we are doing. It's five simple pledges. I love the fact that the first one is to give hope, and the last one is to resist tyranny. I just think it's so good. And what I want to do is I want to give people a human emblem of what they can be, get behind, because it can't all be about Tommy bless him. Also, I had a very famous journalist turn around to me and say, why are you hanging around with that thrifter? And I'm like, hey, I don't hang around with Tommy. We'd talk and discuss things. And B, why are you? You're on hit. You would agree about 99% of things. I hate these accidents. Like literally... Anytime any of us have been around each other altogether, it's all about being productive. It's all about how do we help our country and our country, like it's very positive, active, proactive. I wish more people were doing that stuff that you, me and Tommy and other people are doing. We had that, so people sitting on the background saying, oh, don't associate with that person. I'll give you a bad image. And who cares about your image? Who cares about your reputation? Get on with fixing what's good and what's true and what's beautiful. Like care about your nation. Care about the world. Make it a better place for God to say. I'm sick of these people. No, I'm so with you. I'm so... I think your move is the best thing ever, because I think you literally are in the land of opportunity. Absolutely. So you're in a place where you're not going to be held back or discriminated against because of your beliefs. You're going to find there's going to be a cohort and a constituency of people that really care what you think. And I just think it's going to be so good for you, because I've watched you over the last few years since we've got to know each other and become friends. And I've just seen you isolated in this country. And I'm just like, it drives me insane. And I'm just like, why don't you just like make him... Like, why are all the organizations not coming in? So you've gone there, and I think you're going to... I think you're going to buy your fruits. You shall know them. I think you're going to do some amazing stuff. You know, I've been here, this is my third day, right? I'm not even halfway through the third day. And I've had so many pro-life organizations, Christian organizations, conservative organizations, get in touch, say, how can we make things happen? Let's do some work. Like, none of them are saying, "Oh, don't associate with that Lawrence Fox, or don't associate it with that Tommy Robinson, or what about your image, what about..." None of them are that superficial. They care about getting stuff done already. Like, three days. Imagine how much we can get done in three years. Yeah. Well, if anyone can do it, you can do it, my friend. But you don't know. I am still angry. And I'm going to shout at you every time we do a Fox and Father. But what's so good is that, I mean, it's sad that that chair's empty. But I'm smoking a cigar, which is good. So... When I get my registry sorted, I will smoke a pipe while we shout. We'll also... I like the thing you sent through to us about the... about those winged-back chairs. I think we should probably talk about gold. And here is gold. Now, as we come to the end of the show, I did promise you that we had a new sponsor. Yes. It's launching the Fox and Father's Show. Because apparently this company, Gold Bullion Partners, a few of our listeners, have decided that while being faced with the tyranny of potential digital IDs and CBDCs and where they can keep their money safely without it being removed from the government, they have come up with the idea of gold. Well, this is actually silver. Well, I've got some gold. I've got some gold too. But my gold's a little one. So the problem is your money isn't yours if it's in the bank and you can't rely on it. You can't trust the bank. So we've got to invest in assets. No capital gains tax. That's interesting. No capital gains tax. I've got a lot of friends who are buying gold and silver, actually. Yeah. Non-traceable. I'm buying silver because gold's a bit up there for me. I could probably get one of these. But this is legal tender. Is it? Yeah. Okay. I'm just saying. Well, a lot of places aren't accepting legal tender anymore. That's part of the problem. The more we go to a cashless society, the more the government can control everything that we do. They can see every penny we spend, they can control where we spend it. That's not a good thing. But gold and silver are holding their values beautifully in the world. Absolutely. And in times of trouble, people tend to lean and go towards gold and silver. So, you know, gold bullion partners, guys, their link will be in the show notes. And if you so feel that you want to absolutely do your own research, look into it. Yeah. And we will carry on buying it ourselves, won't we? Yeah, we will. Calvin, where's the hope? The hope is in each other. So, our commander is to love God and to love our neighbor as ourselves. And that means we, of course, our first focus is our worship and praise and thanksgiving of God. But after that, it's to love each other and to find Christ in each other and to find the hope in each other. And not looking inwards, looking outwards. And that's what love is. Love is a willing, the good of the other. It's sacrificial. It's how can I help that person be better rather than how can I use that person to help myself be better. That's where the hope is. Stop being insular is the message. So, I was very moved by, obviously, a lot of people were talking about 9/11. And, you know, you're listening to these stories, these amazing stories of great and indomitable courage. But I was really moved by Gina Carano's post, which hasn't had a lot of engagement with it. But when I remember 9/11, I think of this verse and the selfless acts of brave men and women running into a burning building to save others during all the fear and panic in such a devastating moment. And the verse is John 1513, "Greater love has no one, sorry, greater love has no one done this, than to lay down one's life for his friends." Yeah. And that's what God did for us. What's that, sorry? That's what God did for us. Yeah. And the door is open, isn't it? Well, listen, I know you've got to run. So, thank you for taking the time to talk to me for our brief first Transatlantic Fox and Father. We will compensate our viewers by doing a longer one next year. Yeah, I've got to go. And I miss you, and I'm glad I get to see your face, and I'm looking forward to seeing you. And I'm coming out to America. Me and Lizzie are going to come out, so we'll see you and come visit the church. No, but we should get Lizzie on the show as well. What, Lizzie? Yes. Like, no. Sorry. But even she says this, she's like, "You can't let me speak about it." Like, I didn't even send her there. Mel B. Afro should be a protected characteristic thing. Did you see that today? No, I didn't. Yeah, so Mel B is saying that Afro hair should be a protected characteristic in the Equality Act. If I sent that to Lizzie, she would just go off on a run about it. She, like, all amazing people who are not white and who have curly hair. It's just like, "What's my hair got to do with fucking in my hair?" "What's my hair got to do with anything?" It's like, because the next question is, "Oh, you stopped straightening your hair beyond, say?" That's what white people got straight hair. It's like, it's so divisive. Don't let's end up in the question, "Should I go to the Afro back when I get rid of the beard?" Wait, you're not getting rid of the beard? I am. I'm going to give you another week. It's giving you my nerves now. Hang on a minute. Hang on a minute. You started growing this beard in Greece. Yes. So, excuse me, you've got to give it some room. No, no, I mean this. I'll do what I can't say. I'm going to be angry. But the Afro has got to come back. I mean, it's like, this is what I say to Lizzie all the time when she does a sort of wavy thing with her hair. I'm like, "Why would you turn curly, wonderful, amazing hair into something like that?" It's like, I wish I had curly, amazing hair that grew out like this. Like, I wish for it, but I don't have, like, lank, posh boy, Anglo-Saxon hair. Hey, it's just how my hair happens through, but yeah, there's nothing wrong with your posh boy here. I've got to go, but good to see you, brother. I love you, man. You too. God bless. [MUSIC]