Grant and Danny

Austin Ekeler Joins G&D, Commanders Over/Under, Confidence Points Picks

9.27.24 Hour 4

1:00- Austin Ekeler joins G&D to discuss his concussion he sustained on MNF, and help us discuss the Cardinals-Commanders game.

23:50- We get to our Commanders over/under props for the week 4 matchup.

35:00- It's time for our confidence points picks, each of our top 5 spread bets for week 4.

Broadcast on:: 27 Sep 2024
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And one of the things you kind of have to kind of feel out how your coverage is going. Mine is still coming along, but hopefully be back in a few days or so. How much better do you feel now than the night of on Monday? Oh, wow. Monday definitely was disoriented. You know, had a ton of different symptoms going on. So I've made major progress since then. So that's good. I'm feeling more like myself. So yeah, definitely made a lot of progress since Monday night. Austin, to the extent that you're willing to kind of share because I think the word concussion for a lot of us who are putting fantasy lineups in and seeing that Q next to people's name, it's just a word. You know what I mean? It's an injury, but it's like hearing someone has a hamstring or whatever. There's so much that can go into it. And it is really scary. Like, I know everyone is different. And I don't know that you know how many you've had or what have you, but can you give us a little behind the scenes? I'm like, what that actually entails and means for you this week? Well, so anytime you have a concussion in the NFL, you go into a protocol, which is a very step-by-step built out process of you have to pass certain tests before you're able to move on to the next one. And you have to go through all these different tests until you're able to return to play. Then you do a few more tests. And then if you pass all those, then you're finally cleared to actually go back to contact. And so like we mentioned, all concussions are kind of different. Have kind of a life of their own. So that's what these steps are there for. You know, they start out very simple. You know, being able to just remember being able to have different symptoms, have seen some type of, you know, gradual, you know, pullback, the extension of those symptoms is what they want to see first. And then maybe start doing some slow activity, stuff like that. So it's just like gradual comeback to play process that everyone has to go through any time you have a concussion. Makes sense. Austin Echler won't play Sunday. In Arizona, he's back here in the DMV team is out in Phoenix. We'll dive into what they might be able to do to move on without him. He's been arguably their best offensive player this year. So it's a big loss in game. Do you know right away? Like it happened right after your long kick return on that three yard run off right tackle inside the 10 yard line. It seemed like maybe you were grabbing at your ear was like your ear ringing. And then you go into the blue tent. I saw the red hat walk to the sideline because we were in the stands in Cincinnati. Do you just tell you it's up to us now or like, what is the machinations in game? No, I mean, yeah, so I got hit and then not I didn't. I honestly didn't know what type was going on. And so I knew I knew I was done immediately once I got to the tent. I actually when I was in the tent, I didn't even remember how I even gotten the tent. Wow. Like, yeah, I kind of was they were asking me questions. But I'm like trying to think like, did I walk over here? And so that was what I was dealing with. So I mean, anytime you have that scenario, you know, you're not going back in the game. And then you kind of just, you know, go to the protocol, go in the tent, go in the back room. And then at that point, it's just kind of I get ready. And then so my ear, I pulled my ear, which I didn't even know until I really got to the locker room or actually in the tent. They were they were like putting the gauze on my ear because up then there was a giant laceration in my ear. And I'm like, how the heck did my ear get cut open? You know, that's weird. I don't know. It must have been, you know, and so I have like four stitches in my ear right now. So straight up ear hole, you know, that's the definition of an ear hole right there. No doubt. And then your wife, I know was there seeing her social and I don't know what other family. But I'm sure you got to fire off a text because they're worried. Like, what's that part of it like? Yeah. So this is one thing I really appreciate about Washington out here. Like, they do such a good job with just family and everything like that. So they were the ones contacting Dylan, our player director out here contacting my family, my mom, my wife, letting them know he's alert. Hey, this is what's going on. Just keeping them up to date. And so really, really just, you know, great, great family oriented organization over here. And so they, they definitely did their job there and keeping my family up to date. That's good to hear. Austin Eckler with this here on Grant and Danny. So the, the trivial part, obviously, we were first of almost concerned about you and your health, et cetera. But the trivial part, the football part, apart rather, not the fart, you were rolling in that game, dude. Like that was, that was the Austin Eckler show. Kick off return. The touchdown where everybody's flat footed and you're on your way to the house. Like that first drive was the Austin Eckler show. You were crushing in this game. You're going to finish with a whole mess of total yards and all the fantasy points you could muster. What, what were you feeling before all the badness? So, I mean, you know, it's funny because last year, the first game of the year, high ankle sprained, I come back ankle sprained on the other side too. And so I'm dealing with these flipping ankles the whole year. And everyone's like, oh, this kid's washed. Like Austin's done. He's done. And it's like, well, if I didn't have, you know, prohibited foot of feet that I'd be able to run. And so now I'm finally healthy, back on my feet and, you know, feeling like my old self again, you know, back when I was running for 1600 yards, 20 touchdowns. And so that's what you're getting when I'm healthy. This is what you're going to see on the field. Like that's kind of what I've been doing for a while now. And that's what you can expect to see as you've been able to, you know, for the first three weeks here. Five touches for 57 yards, basically in a half of football. The couple of catches and the three carries and then the monster kick return, which we'll get into. So you had the first run of the game on first down, set up a second in short, and then you catch the ball on second and down. So the single handedly moved the chains. I'm imagining that first play is on the first 10 or 15 script, right? Like when do you know that the first play is a handoff to you? Did you know that on Friday? I think it's a little, I think it's a little different here because I'm the returner as well. But I think they want to see, okay, you're going to be fresh. If he's not, you know, and so, oh, hey, it was a touch back. Austin, you're in the game. And so Brian and I were actually in the game at the same time right there. So I'd love to see that person. Now let's get both of us out there, you know, two playmakers on the field. So that one was one. Hey, touch back. I often you're in the play. Let's run it. And so, yeah, we knew. And then that first catch to move the chains. Are you the primary on that? Or was like, is that another one where you know it's coming? I don't think it's all that play, you know, but I was like hiding behind the left tackle. Yeah. I'm like really down low. I don't even think actually they saw me under there. So because they didn't react to me at all going out to the flat. Little side, I didn't get more out of that. But they, you know, the corner did a good job reacting. But yeah, definitely the primary were trying to hide me and get me to the flat. You know, pick up at least the first down. Yeah. I mean, guess the reason I asked you, you know, in that way is first two plays go to you. You had a screen shortly thereafter that was a big gainer across midfield. And it seemed like you were a huge part of the game plan to get everything going in the right direction. And I just wonder what that does for not only your confidence in this offense with Cliff, but maybe even to make you feel good about what you mean right now to this group. Yeah, absolutely. It's something that, you know, you have to build trust within your coordinator that, Hey, we want to get this guy the ball in different ways. And I think that's what you saw play out there. Like literally it was, you know, run off the edge with two running backs in. Then we stayed in and I, you know, I'm in this awkward position running a slide underneath. And then all of a sudden you're throwing a screen to me. You know, I'm running the ball up the middle as well. You know, my touchdown. So I'm being utilized in different ways, which is exactly what the conversation that I had with Cliff to be in this season was like, Hey, there's different ways I love to be utilized. You know, having me moved around is definitely going to be a benefit for us. I feel like I can execute in different parts of the field. You know, having that confidence with him, having it, me having it in myself and going out there and not letting them down. Probably going to see more of it. Yeah, for sure. Austin Echler with the serial GND and it's speaking of confidence. I mean, you guys, you know, to get to the level that you guys play at and go through what you guys go through, you've got to be supremely confident and it's deserved, right? You're the best athletes on the planet. We can week out even with that baseline level Austin. Here's my question. When do you know that you're going to have a performance? Not just you, but it bet as the team where you're like, do you have a feeling at some point, like on a walkthrough during the week where it's like, dude, we are about to woodshed this team, like we were about to put up all the points and all the yards and dress way, take a break. You're not punting. Like what at what point do you know? Is it even during the game where you're like, they cannot stop us? Like, when did you know that for this week? Okay. Yeah. So I mean, during the week, you know, you're really just focused on yourself. You know, sure, we have their looks and everything like that. We have our scout team that's running their looks, but it's coming down to us running our details, making sure we're in the right spot, right time, right rhythm, practice in different cadence, different scenarios. It's all commanders, right? Commanders, commanders, commanders. And so then we get to Sunday, and that's really where the new challenge starts. Now we're actually going against our opponent. And so we're obviously, you know, we're fresh. They're fresh. They think they're going to win. We think we're going to win. Like, there's no telling. Oh, yeah. Our game plans are going to direct these guys. Like, you really don't know. Every game has a life of its own. And, you know, good things happen, bad things happen, but it's not the end of the world. You continue to overcome. And so we get to the game and they, you know, score on the first drive. We come back. We score on the first drive. And that's like, okay, here we go. It seems like we're going to be some type of dog fight back and forth kind of game. And sure enough, it played out like that. It doesn't always sustain itself like that, but it just turned into one of those games. Sometimes you have the opposite. Sometimes you have a blowout. And so you kind of take it with what it is of, okay, what is our details? Where are we at the situation where we react from there and try to give it our best that we can. Our weekly segment with Austin Echler has a reminder every Monday, excuse me, Tuesday at five, Austin joins us here on Grant and Danny. But because of the injury on Monday night football, he was kind enough to make time for us today and fit one in this week here on Friday. But it's presented by IT cadre, trusted insight from trusted insiders presented by IT cadre where DC sports insiders share their exclusive perspective. Austin live on GND. Speaking of Tress Wade, any just mentioned him, he's the punter on the team, by the way. I don't know if you've ever met. I remember him. You may not have met him yet or known him. What do you have against him? Like, why don't you guys like Tress? He's just trying to punch that time card and work like everybody else. So Tress is one of the guys in the locker room that like everyone really respects. Like he's the guy that asking everyone, you know, how they're doing, you know, how's, you know, your wife, how's like, he's the guy that everyone's like, you know what? Like, everyone's got a genuine, genuine respect for Tress. So he's one of those guys, not in the locker room. So it's, he's definitely not going unnoticed, you know, he's, he's still out there holding it for the field goals. That's true. We actually, we've known Tress for so many years, like when I was on the beat for four years, he was on the team early on on his early days. And so we had him on the show on Tuesday after the big game, just to ask if he was still alive and just to tell him how impressed we were on the holds on those five extra points. You're such a good holder. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's been great. How he's been embraced. And look, eventually we're going to have to punt, you know, this run is great, but, you know, eventually, you know, football, football, you're probably going to have to punt one or two. So you've got to keep himself ready for sure. So you may not have been able to see it. I'm sure you'll be able to go back and watch it, but in your stead, Jeremy McNichols has a hidden play that now has kind of made its rounds on social media and the like on that incredible touchdown, the term of chlorine, he's picking up a blitz and he knocks some, you know, linebacker blitz and onto his tuckus. And it's like now everybody's like super excited about that sort of thing. You know, those kind of hidden plays, I think are just so cool for, for you guys and for fans and everybody to kind of revel in that when a performance is so cool or so great like it was on Monday night. Have you had a chance to talk to him about, you know, about that? And then maybe about his role here over these over the time where you're not going to be around. Yeah, it's funny to bring that out because I was laughing so hard when I saw him. He shot a cut the guy and the guy legs like got kind of caught up on his back and then he kind of like flipped him and I text him like a couple days after like, Hey man, that cut block on that throw was absolutely hilarious because it's not supposed to look like that, but it just kind of looks funny because of how it kind of played out. But shout out to Jeremy getting in there and getting it done and he's going to have to continue to do that, you know, coming forward here because I have to feel my spot there and you know, take a bigger role in the running back in the running back position. Austin, what did you make of Jaden Daniels performance to in completions his first two touchdowns and on top of all of that, we finally saw the ball go down the field. He dropped a couple of deep shots and buckets. Yeah. Yeah. I think this is, you know, him coming into his NFL self like he is still young. He's only played three games, you know, and so he's going to continue to learn to try some stuff. You know, we're going to have new schemes that are put in that maybe weren't in the week before that he likes a little bit, but so he is going to continue to evolve in this game and who he is today isn't going to be who he is, you know, even in the next game or the game after he's going to continue to get better. And that's what's great if you have a rookie that gets off to a great start is they have a jumpstart and they're learning and they're having success and so that's exactly what we have right now is that, hey, we have a young, a young guy in there at the helm at the quarterback position. He's having success. He's finding his rhythm, finding a groove for him that works with the team that we have around him as well. And you know, it's not necessarily luck, but it's just not common. I think to really see that type of success super early, for me, I've kind of seen it with Justin Herbert and now with with Jaden. So I've gotten lucky with the, with the rookie quarterbacks coming in, but I'm here to help support him and make him look as good as we possibly can. I know that that's my team, I thought to Austin, how would Austin Echler replace the absence of an Austin Echler type say in an offense that's been going pretty good over the last couple of weeks? What needs to happen? Yeah. You know, it's tough. It's like, that's one of the questions like, Hey, if you would like a, you know, someone on the team that has a key role, how do you, I don't think you necessarily replace them, but you say, okay, who else do we have that can step up? So how do I utilize them to their strengths? Because you can't say, okay, I'll go do all the things that Austin does, which would, but it's the same thing as say, Hey, me, go do all the things that, that Brian does or some other running bad. It's like, that's not fair to that person. You have to treat them at their, their own player, which is kind of great for us because our weeks are basically almost a new game plan in every single week. So all right, this is the players that we have this week. Here's the game plan based off of these players. So I don't think it's about replacing me. I think it's about getting other people activated in other ways that maybe doesn't evolve often now. Makes sense, I guess. I mean, it just seems like you've been so instrumental, both running the football more importantly, catching the football and B Rob can do that. We saw it last year, even from Sam Howl. It's a part of his game that's undervalued, but they don't really have another version of you. What's Mick Nichols? We haven't seen him a lot. I guess he more of an Echler style backer or a little bit more of like a Robinson Thumper. Well, I would say he's definitely more of an Echler style, just as far as body type anyway. But that's not fair to say because, you know, you might be a little faster than me, actually. Well, he definitely is a little faster than me. So that's going to be advantage for him over me anyway, but like, it's not like an apples to apples type things, but he's definitely, you probably five can, you know, you can see him on the depth chart, whatever he's left to that, like he's more my side. So you're going to get more pride, my type of runs, other than B Rob at like six to, you know, two 30 trying to run dudes over like that. I guess I'd be more like, you see a traditional like B Rob is a thumper you can throw the ball to and your guy get up, get him in the ball in space and you better bring help because no one's getting him on the ground because he's shifty. Like I didn't know what Mick Nichols like game is. Yeah, I would say more of the latter there for sure. So you've been on some good teams and some teams that, you know, came in second a decent amount Austin. And here's what I'm wondering that before you got here as a lifelong Washington and someone that loves the team and has seen all the ups and downs, something that's usually happened in the past is a big win will happen, whether the team's good, bad or different. You see like a big, huge victory that maybe people didn't necessarily expect or however it goes. And then there's always kind of the subsequent two steps back or kind of a rug pull a let down. How do you prevent that as a guy that's been around and I know you're not there in Arizona with the squad. But that sort of thing where there's another game coming and nobody cares about last week this week, right? Like I've seen teams sort of collapse afterwards. How do you prevent that? Yeah. I mean, I think it comes down to your leadership on your team and I mean, considering one of myself, one of the leaders on the team, it's coming back to keeping people focused on what matters, which is the details of this week. The details. Hey, what are the details of this week? And that's something I was preached every, literally every single day. I'm yelling out their details, details, hey, locking on the details, here are your offenses up. Guess what? Locking on the details. Because guess what's going to help you win games on Sundays, regardless if you just came off of a blowout that you won or lost or it was a close game, we have new details. We have a new game plan. We have to go out there and execute to the fullest of our ability. And how do you maintain that if you have something good? Well, that means you've done something hopefully good in the past. We've come down to your fundamentals and your preparation. So how do we replicate that? So let's keep preaching the same thing and it comes down to your culture, comes down to your leaders, comes down to how each individual person's attacking the week. It's not something that you necessarily turn on and off it. It's really a gradual build. That's why culture is such an important topic when we're talking about football teams because it comes down to how you prepare, how you play, how you hold yourself accountable, how you set a standard, all the things that come into helping you be consistent during the year. What do you think of the team staying out there and just going straight to Phoenix? I kind of like the possibility that you don't come home and all your buddies aren't telling you how good you are for a few days. They just got right back to work. Yeah, I mean, that's what we're out here for. Dan Quinn says, look, we're not out here to rebuild or do whatever some of these people say about us. We're out here to win football games. That's why we're hired. We didn't get hired to win next year. We get hired to win right now. And so if that's what he sees is the next step, hey, we got to go straight out there because it's short week. We don't have to waste time flying around all this. Let's go. We're here to win games. That's our job. So if that's what he wants, that's what we're going to do. Chance to get to three and one in Arizona will be a tall order without our guests, Austin Echler, but the guys are getting ready to tee it up on Sunday. How will you watch the game? This has to be so weird for you. Are you just going to be in your living room? I freaking hate it, man. I hate it so much. I remember, I believe it was 2020, hurt my hamstring pretty bad, had to watch seven games from home. And I remember just doing push-ups, like I just get mad, like I'm just like mad. It was angry push-ups. I'm not there, like I'm still in game mode, but not there, so I have no way to like kind of blow off steam or my energy is like, I'm just, I'll do some sit-ups, I'll do some core, like my fiance, she's like, why are you like so intense right now? I'm just like, well, just, you don't understand, you know? Will you watch by yourself or like, is it cool if people are in the room? Well, my wife, we're probably walking together, but she knows how I am on game day, so it's intense viewership. Yeah. By the way, that turnover phrase is perfect because that's how us crazy people do it. Intense viewership every week. That's what we do. Yeah. It's not like a casual, let's just have a nice combo. It's not time for conversation. It is a lot. Right. Right. This is my job. This is not, I'm not here as a, as a for fun viewer, like I'm supposed to be out there contributing to the team, so I can keep my livelihood in this league alive. What's cool when I'm watching it and not there, I'm like, I feel like I'm missing that, you know? Totally. But for a lot of us watching the game, we're just kind of seeing, oh, okay, what are they doing here? Like, you're the, you were in the, you're in the script. You're like an actor in the movie, watching the movie, so you're like, oh, this is that play. Oh, I see. Yep. Watch Luke. Luke's about to come in the backfield. Like, you got the whole thing ready to go. I guess they might, there might be one or two wrinkles this week. They install that you haven't seen, but it's not like it's, and it's not in the playbook. Right. Yeah. I keep up with everything. So I still watch, I still watch the practices out there. I'm still, I'm still a lurker, I'm a lurker from the sidelines. You know, I'm going to make sure everyone, I see something, I'm going to text somebody like, Hey, man, what the hell is this, you know, like, you got to make sure, make sure that everyone's being held accountable for the details, you know? So when I watch it, I know it's like I'm looking at, but yeah, it's the great to hear it, man. And thrilled, honestly, that you were on the mend and the air was trending up there. Obviously, first and foremost, concerned about about you and the fact that you're getting better is awesome. Can't wait to see you back on the field. But I appreciate the time as always. Likewise. Thanks for having me on board. Thanks, buddy. There's our guy Austin Echler. He will be out on Sunday, commanders go to Arizona to take on the Cardinals. I T cadre makes that segment possible every week. I T cadres trusted insight, helping leaders of the nation's most important organizations understand complexity, align efforts and make the best data driven decisions to achieve success. I T cadre, your vision, our purpose, Grant and Danny with you on the fan. Let's hit some props, some over under projections for some of the commanders starters without Echler this coming Sunday next on GND. This summer, get away in the Hyundai you've always wanted at the Hyundai Getaway Sales event. Get the hottest deals of the season on many of our award-winning Hyundai models, which all come with America's best warranty, but get going because these deals won't last. Get more joy to your journey at the Hyundai Getaway Sales event. Now for a limited time, get 1.99% APR for 60 months on the Hyundai Tucson or Elantra. Hurry in to the Hyundai Getaway Sales event, offers in September 3rd. Call 562-314-4603 for details. I got a feeling things could be looking up for a little over under props this week with the commander's offense breaking out. Last week, when I introduced the segment, I said Danny's going to take all unders pretty much happened. I'm going to take a couple of overs, but I didn't have a lot of faith in the receivers. I think we both might give some more overs out this week. So all my overs are typically I gave overs on Hertz catches and yards hit, overs on Austin Echler catches and yards hit and didn't because he got hurt. His yardage over dead catches total didn't and then every over for the opponents when it comes to passing the football. All the hits thing where I was wrong. Maclaurin. Anything where the commanders did well offensive, no other than just the receiver, Echler and Hertz. But regardless, we don't need to re-legislate last week. The point of the dude's story is it is time to do a little over under, find the props on Fandall. Fandall sports book. The app that we'll use will bring in our producer. Daris that had Dameron. Look at that. What do you got that never gets old. Let's start with. QB one for your Washington commanders. They have Jayden Daniels passing props set at two 15 and a half climbing two 15 and a half. I will say under, I think Washington has him run around a little more. I think this is like a 12 or 13 carry game. I could see him running for 70 to 80 yards, something like that, big Brian Robinson game. I think he's around 200, but I just don't see him going for, you know, last week it was two 50. I don't think he replicates that. I think they, they surprise the bangles a little bit with the vertical passing game. I think the Cardinals will be prepared. I'll say a slight under on two 15, again, those hidden yards with Austin Eckler that add up, right? Those little dump offs that go for 12 and seven and 14. They're not available to you. Don't have them this week. So I've got to just joined us. Seemed to think Mick Nichols could do some of that. He did. And I love Austin Eckler for it. But this is old rainy. Do you? Yeah. Not quite buying that. I got a slight under on this one. I think there's the rushing fader spoiler we turned up a little bit. How about the opposing quarterback, Kyler Murray, who's only faced a Washington commander's once in his career, over, sorry, you weren't so much over, over, over, two 30 and a half. Oh, sorry. You weren't done yet. That is deployment over. I thought you said four 30 over. Uh, no, two 30 and a half easiest over the lever over. Yeah. It's going over. That gets happening. All right. We'll move on to the rushing props. Brian Robinson, his rushing prop is set at 67 and a half. So I was, it's interesting because I was actually thinking that it should be higher than normal normally. He's in the mid fifties low sixties because it's, it's him. I mean, he's the whole kitten kaboodle this week. I will go over for Brian Robinson. I think it's like an 18 carry 72 yard game, something like that. Yeah. 18 for 80 is what he does in this game on the ground. He's going way over that total Jaden Daniels rushing prop is set at 47 and a half. That is a hammer over. I mean, at 47 and a half, I think there's a better chance he rushes for a hundred than goes under that. I will say Jaden Daniels is in the seventies in this game. Yeah. I think he goes over this total too. I'm scratching my head, not actually, but figuratively going, why is it, why is that one on the low side? What am I missing here about this? I know I think he went under that this total this past week, but I think one less receiving option, one more Jaden Daniels scramble here or there and you go over that total. I think that's a hammer over seems like it. I will say quarterback rushing totals are never that high. Like even if you look at Lamar peak of his powers, it's normally in the low fifties. The calamari who's got his average in 55 yards of games over under 33. That's what I'm saying. The rushing for quarterbacks is always lower than you think. I don't, I don't think I've ever seen a Lamar over maybe, you know, upper fifties might be the highest it gets for him even when he's running all over the place because the expectation is just that there aren't going to be enough opportunities as the game goes on. But 47 and a half seems easy for me. Danny just mentioned this one. People go to the opposing quarterback column, Murray's rushing props set at 33 and a half. So I've got a slight over on this one. I don't think it'll be as robust as it's been through three weeks because I don't think Washington pressures him a ton. So to me, his, his, you know, big plays in the running game are those scrambles, you know, those seven yarders, maybe the cutback here or there that go for 10 to 15. I think this is a slight over, but it's not like a huge banner rushing there for him. He ran for 57 against the bills. There wasn't a lot of second half urgency offensively until Buffalo came back. He ran for 59 against the Rams and then he ran last week for 45 against the lions. So he has cruise past this number three times. He'll be four for four. He will go over that total. The opposing starting running back is one James Conner, who's probably said it's 66 and a half. This one's close. They can stop the run better than people think. And I know everyone thinks that that's insane. And week number one, they shoved it on Rashad White, who couldn't run at all and Tampa Bay is not a great running team. Yeah. I don't know how great Arizona is it run on the football. Calamari's great at running the football. James Conner's not very dynamic. I think they do an okay job. I think this is a slight over, but this isn't like a layup to me. I think he ends up at right around 70 yards. James Conner went for a buck 20 in week two for what it's worth. He's been under this total in the sandwich games week one against the bills, 16 attempts for 50 yards, 3.1 per and then last week nine for 17 along of seven, 1.9 per, I'm going to say under, I don't think they need to run the ball all that much. Maybe he gets over to it at the end of the game if they have a lead, but I actually think Washington may well win this game. I think it's going to be back and forth. And I think that they're going to throw the ball predominantly and get what they want through the passing game. So I'll say under for him. All right. This is the receiving side, Terry McCorn broke out last week with a hundred yard game. They have this props set at 52 and a half under on this one. I would love to be wrong a second straight week, but I've got two weeks where there's not much production there. One week where there is, and if I'm Arizona, I'm going, that's the only thing I'm scared of right now with this offense. I can live with Zachar. It's underneath. I can live with Noah Brown or Luke McCaffrey underneath or Brian Robinson thumping. I can't live with over the top, which was the easy button twice for Washington. I'm going to do everything I can to take that away. So I think he's back to those more meager totals this week, he'll go over 52 and a half. It's not going to be a hundred like it was last week. The 55 yarder did the heavy lifting there, but he's going to get seven, eight, nine targets every single game. He's going to catch five, six, seven balls, most games. And if you put up, you know, 11, 12 yards per contest, you get him up over this number. I think while I haven't seen some of the 15 to 20 yard stuff that he's always majored in here, those square ins, those digs, the middle of the field just doesn't seem like a big part of their offense. One of those has to be coming at some point. We also saw a couple of plays where Daniels while leaving the pocket scrambling reset and through to McCorn tells me they're getting on the same page in that plaster where like you're on the move and he's trying to just find space. It takes one of those where he gets you in some real estate and you go run for 25 after that and you're on your way. So I'll say over, I think he goes for something like, you know, six catches for 70 yards, the security blanket, Zach Hertz, he's got his props at a 29 and a half. I'm always over on Zach Hertz right now. To me, this one's like, I'll be wrong betting on Zach Hertz because the offense goes through him largely. Look at targets. Look at catches, even when they had a half a football where they didn't do anything the tight ends really in Cincinnati, they came back to him. They targeted him five times and got him five catches in just one half against the bangles. He hit his over. He's gone for 38 62 28 in the three game so far. He has not even been targeted as much as I expect, but I think it's a bigger Zach Hertz game because I think the pass rush gets home. The Cardinals this year, one of the 10 best teams in the league rushing the quarterback. They're in the top eight and sacks per pass attempt. I think this is a game where the commanders could have a hard time keeping Daniels up right from time to time. That means back side of the backfield. No Echler and tight ends. That's Zach Hertz a safety valve. Yeah, the no Echler part. The targets go somewhere. I think they go to to her. It's now you may have him stand and chip or Max protect every now and again to help out with some of those blitzes and the like show TBD on that, but I do think he goes over that total and previous weeks it's been hard to find a wide receiver prop other than Terry McQuarran. We've got two this week. Noah Brown set a 29 and a half. Under 29 and a half. I think he has two or three catches, but mostly for him, it seems like in the 10 to 12 range. So I'll say like two for 28 or three for 27, something like that for Noah Brown. Yeah, under on Noah Brown, but not don't have a great feel for this one because you could go. He could be doing a nice job and not get targeted at all. There could be a Noah Brown game coming though where he's good enough. He could go like seven for 80 if they just don't involve. Yeah. Catch somebody. Yeah. Or you get, you got to look that you like, et cetera, a matchup that you like and maybe that's this week. If the Cardinals say Terry's not beating us, like we saw the film that we're not giving them that, let's send a safety over bracket him that way. It's like T Higgins on the backside when you feature Chase where he's got, you know, the ability to get inside these players and box them out. That's Noah Brown's game could be that. Yeah. That just could be the week, but I've got it under. All right. And the other one and the final one is Luke McCaffrey. They got him set at 19 and a half over. I think this is a big Luke McCaffrey opportunity. I think he's going to return kicks with Austin Echler out, at least partially, there's a chance. Alameda is the key is involved in that area as well. I also think he's going to get a carry might be in jet action, you know, in the slot, but I actually think he could line up in the backfield. I'm telling you, there's a wacky, you know, opportunity there for Christians, little brother, but obviously that wouldn't help him in receiving yards. I say all that to say, I think he's going to have to be involved. Echler said it's not about replacing me. It's about getting other guys more active. I think that could be McCaffrey. This was my Zeke's suspicion as well. I think he gets six touches in this game. I think he goes over because it's again, it might be out of the backfield. It might be gimmicky. It might be a little slot screen or something like that. You're going to see him a little bit more involved as the, as things progress commanders, Cardinals, four o'clock window on Sunday. You're listening to Grant and Danny next, our confidence points picks for week four, which games do we feel best about prognosticating? This is the fan. [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] GND on the fan, getting you ready for another weekend of football. Awesome slate in college games tomorrow. You got Alabama, Georgia tomorrow night to capital off at seven thirty course. The NFL on Sunday is going to be terrific, headline by a great one o'clock window. And then you get to enjoy all that because the commanders play at four against the Cardinals. Our football coverage on the fan today presented by T mobile head to T mobile.com and get a great deal on iPhone 16 pro that just dropped. It is time to make our confidence points picks for Sunday's games. I don't even know if winning is important. Nobody really cares. Nobody remembers who wins. You just can't finish last or you got to do an embarrassing photo shoot like our guy Darris is going to be doing in due time. That's the end of the bad news for Darris. The good news is he's on a bit of a heater. He went five for five last week in confidence points picks. I'm not clapping. What are the standings looking like, Darris? The standings have yours truly leading in first place with 26 points. Grant and Ryan are both tied with 25 points through three weeks and then someone else says a different point total. It's not important. Yeah, it's 19 points at all. You can cover that in four places, Danny, Ria. All right. So let's get after it. The way this works is we get to pick any five games from the upcoming NFL slate Sunday one o'clock through Monday night football, you assign each game points. We have five plays worth five, four, three, two and one points. Maximum of 15 can be earned in any weekend. We'll go in the order of the standings. Darris, you're up first. This is my first time picking first, I think my five point play. I got Cleveland covering minus one and a half. I know Cleveland stinks, but the Raiders are beat up. No Devontae Adams, no, no Max Crosby. I got Cleveland going out to Las Vegas and winning this one outright. Cleveland minus one and a half five point play for me. I have the Cincinnati Bengals who are 0 and three in the Andy Dalton fiasco coming up. The Dalton game. I got the Bengals laying four and a half. I think burrow just outdoors them. The Panthers read their press clippings this week. Think they're better than they are. Crash back down to earth on my five point play is also the Bengals minus four and a half. I'm not buying the red rifle revenge game. I think Joe burrow and the Bengals get back on track to me a nice day in Charlotte. So I think the Bengals offense will click and they will steamroll the Carolina Panthers. And the offense was humming against Washington and their seasons on the line. So why not the most important thing for me is to remember who stinks and the Jacksonville Jaguars stink used to coming off of disappointing performance. They're back at home. They cover the six and a half two point play. Oh, excuse me. That'll be my four point play Pittsburgh minus two and a half on the road at Indianapolis. And they are going to get after Anthony Richardson Pittsburgh wins up 22 and a half four point play there is get ready to strike up the band. The Washington commanders are catching three and a half in Arizona against the Cardinals. Even if they lose by a field goal, I'm still a winner. I think this is a close game comes down to the final minutes. And if you asked me right now to pick a winner outright, I think the commanders win the game on the Moneyline. So I'm definitely taking them catching three and a half feeling myself a little bit after seeing them light it up against Cincinnati. My four point play, I have the Vikings plus two and a half in Lambo. I'm not sure about Jordan Love just yet, but I really like this Viking seam. I think the Vikings offense could have put up maybe 25 30 points, something in that area. I don't think the Packers will have the juice for that. So I have them covering and winning this game recently. I've been picking a lot of favorites and I'm in last place. I'm going in the exact opposite direction. The Buffalo Bills, I think are the best team in the NFL right now this minute. They are two and a half point dogs against the Ravens. I don't feel great about it, but give me the bills to cover three point play. I have Tampa Bay covering that plus one and a half versus Philly Phillies, another team coming down to Tampa Bay that's beat up. They might not have two or two of their top receivers. It looks like Devante Smith is already considered out. I've got Tampa Bay beating that butt when it comes to the Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah. Box plus one and a half as well for me. We're in lockstep three point play here, Darris. Here's my reasoning why Tampa Bay is going to beat Philly. The bucks are at home for a second straight week. There's a really, really high percentage of wins for teams that don't travel for multiple weeks. Similarly, on the other side, when you travel two straight weeks, you lose at a really high clip second straight road game for the Eagles. So those two things coming together, I like the box catching a point and a half. I also had Tampa Bay plus one and a half. They dominated last year's postseason matchup, different teams, different iterations. But to me, this is about Philly being so totally banged up. Their best plan makers on offense, mind and shake on Berkeley will not play. Danny, you are last. You're actually supposed to go forth and that's, but you're right. You're fine. I'll let you know when my pick is. It's fine. It's fine. You're fine. Buffalo plus two and a half for me is my three point play. I think through the best team in the NFL. I think Josh Allen has a field day and I do believe the bills will win this outright two point play. I got Minnesota covering the two and a half. I think Brian, Brian floors his defense is going to have Jordan love a little shaky in his return. If he doesn't, he returns. It should audible to green Bay, just to zig when you guys are zagging because that line doesn't smell right and you're both fallen victim over here, but we don't do any trade backs. You can't change your picks after you send them in two point play Steelers minus one and a half Pittsburgh is the better football team. They will cover the number of one and a half because Anthony Richardson's awful. He is good athletic traits. He can throw the ball farther than everyone else. You guys are suckers. If you care about that, he throws terrible interceptions. He's completely like 48% of his passes. He's a tough watch. The Steelers defense is awesome. They will cover win by one and a half. I got two and a half. I also have two and a half. Okay. Two and a half. I'll take that move today. I, not this morning, but I will take that and run with it. I have the Seattle Seahawks. I think they going up against my Detroit lines plus three and a half against them. They usually play Dan Campbell pretty tight as well. I'm not fully bought in on the lines being that steam rolling machines. They were last year on offense. So I think the Seahawks are actually really good. I have them covering, but losing my three doesn't sound like a vote of confidence for Jared Goff. Oh, no. JG 16. Still my MVP. Okay. Red rifle revenge game buying Carolina plus four and a half. Oh, let's go. Are the bangles going to be out in four? No, they wouldn't buy a point. Okay. My one point play. It looks like all four of us have made a pick on this game. I also have the red rifle covering that plus four and a half Carolina over the bangles. One point play. Will Levis somehow some way figures it out plus one and a half to Tennessee Titans against the Miami dolphins. Miami is just gross without to the Denver Broncos plus seven and a half going up against the jets. I think bow nicks will have a nice little day against that jets defense. Give me the Minnesota organization plus two and a half. I think they covered that number even if the Packers win should have gone green Bay. Absolutely should have just audible small test broken our own rules. Grant and Danny on the fan next we'll give you the commander's Cardinals official game prediction plus the player to lock in on and we'll get you ready for Nat's baseball as they've got a 645 first pitch tonight. 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