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If you're listening on a podcast right now and you hear David Attenborough's voice narrating Blue Planet or if you're watching on YouTube and you see my almost two-year-old son sitting in my lap, that is because I'm on solo dad duty today. Happy to do it. Mom was at work. So we're making it. We're doing our best here. Got the little guy in his little FedEx St. Jude championship t-shirt. So we're like, we're golf themed here. But Smiley, this is, I'm so pumped for this episode because we have two very different guests, but two extremely entertaining guests having listened to both these interviews now. We have on Pat Gazire, your most recent winner on tour. Just won the pro-core championship. And a good buddy of yours, growing up through the years, we had a great picture on last week's episode of the height disparity when you two were both playing junior golf. That was a cool one. And then Golden State, we promised this one on the pod. We'd seized it a little bit. You all played pickleball down in Nashville at Troubadour. The two of you, Scotty, Scheffler, and Sam Burns. He's got a ton of great stories there. He's got a ton of great NFL and college football stories. They're incredible. So Smiley, I just wanted to hear what are some of the highlights you wanted to use from both Patton and Golden coming up here? Yeah, definitely. And first off, we'll walk her more importantly, saying hello to my boy first. And then hello, Charlie. Yes, great, great episode here for you guys today. Patton is obviously a friend of mine. If you listen to our episode on Monday, you'll know that I cheer for him. He's a guy that I love to compete against. I hated losing to him probably more than anybody, but he made me better. And I think it comes out in this interview just how his competitive spirit is and how he's able to get it done. Because it's not easy once you hear about some of the situations that he's been and doing Monday qualifiers, Q school, in a long history, really, of taking a while to get to the PJ tour. So a lot of patience it took for Patton, because I already get to the tour and definitely took a lot of patience this past year playing in that category. And he definitely showed a lot of patience on Sunday to get the win. So that was a really fun conversation, some really great stories that came out as well with Q school as well as some mini tour stories. So you're going to love that with Patton and then Golden Tate, right? He's him and I, I think it's pretty obvious once you listen to the interview with Golden that him and I get along very well. He's a guy that if I had a first pick of any draft, Golden Tate is going to be my first pick no matter what we're doing, whether it's golf, whether it's beer pong, whether it's pickle ball, does not matter, give me Golden Tate on my team. He's also, I mean, this might as well just be the competitive spirit pod today, because these two, if you would have put Patton and Golden in a ring and just let these two guys go at it, I'm, I'm telling you, they, they love to compete. And I think you'll see that in this episode. Just like Walker does as you hear a lion roar, that's my boy. So if you're driving down the interstate right now, you're driving down the interstate right now and you're wondering if there was a line or a monkey in the back of your car. It's not, that was, that was my boy Walker to see what we watching right now. What is this? We're watching Blue Planet, you know, this is, this is, we can, we can take a second here before we set up these interviews to just talk about screen time for kids, right? I mean, it's, it's a never-ending sort of, you know, debate in our house. It's definitely debate in our house. It definitely helps. You can't, you can't, you can't, anyone who says like you go without screen time, like congrats to you. You have, yeah, I know that we're, it's an advertisement right now. And then we can see the sharks, the sharks will come back in a second. So the, yeah, the screen time thing is, you know, we've done some Disney movies and that helps, you know, from time to time. But this is really, I feel a lot better about putting on Blue Planet is his new jam. He's, I know sharks, he loves the sharks. We love all the underwater creatures. We're big Albee fans in our house, unfortunately, that's so we just, we won't have to watch Albee all day. So the Albee, I mean, I'd recommend trying out Planet Earth. You know, you get some of the land creatures as well there. But it's, it's, it's, it feels like it's educational. We sit down, we have conversations about what we're watching. We talk about sharks. So that's, that's what we're watching right now. Little Blue Planet too, which is, you know, if you're, if you're a parent out there, you're feeling a little guilty on the Disney movies, give it a shot. Try that Planet Earth. You never know how to engage your child. Mayor may not get so. I can't wait to have like a screen time expert on our pod. And we ask him about the benefits and, and maybe some of the things aren't great for kids on that and be like, okay, cool buddy. See you. Good talking to you. And that was, and that was talking to the screen time expert. And now we're going to have on a working couple that, that, you know, it doesn't have as much childcare as they like to. And they got three kids running around at home. They're going to tell us how every once in a while, you got to give your kid an iPad. That's great. That's great. Well, hey, here we go. We covered all little, little dad pod action, little football action, little golf action. I love the comparison you drew there between patent and golden, because it really is like patents like the sea island money game guy and golden's like the psycho competitor. And you're going to hear more about another psycho competitor here, Scotty Scheffler, the pickleball stories that were phenomenal. So we're not going to delay you anymore. We appreciate you, you know, being patient with, with us and, and my son here as we get this thing teed up, but right now we're going to get to your most recent winner on the PGA tour, patent desire, and then stay tuned after that quick little break. We'll get to golden Tate on a number of things, including Scotty Scheffler on the pickleball courts. Let's get right to it. All right, guys. Welcome back to another episode of the smiley show. We got a champion amongst us here today. We got patent desire joining us just one out and nap at the pro court championship. Patton, man, give me what the last 48 hours has been. Like I'm sure you're just in on cloud nine right now. Yeah, cloud nine is right. It's been a whirlwind. It was a quick turnaround with, you know, finished the tournament. Did a bunch of ceremony stuff, shook some hands and kissed some babies. And all of a sudden I got to go to sleep because I got to wake up at four a.m. to catch a flight. And, you know, we land at the airport back in Jacksonville. My truck won't start. Yeah, I've oversleeved this morning. I got to get my kid to school. You have my kids to school and it's a, you know, back to reality. Well, thank you. It's been awesome. Man, I appreciate you taking the time, man. I know how busy guys are after they win golf tournaments. And we're, I'm just couldn't be more excited and happy for you. We talked about this on our Monday episode, how, you know, how resilient you are as a golfer, how hard you work at it. And there was a couple of memories of mine that have come up. First off, like, how about that wild year when we were in Napa, when we had this wildfires? Do you remember, because you guys were in, in the house. So like you've, you've obviously had two different experiences in Napa. And by the way, is there a better place to win in on the PGA tour than Napa, right? Get to sit on some good wine. You're guaranteed to receive a nice bottle of wine. Alpha and mega. I mean, they were quick to hand me a magnum, you know, right? That's good. But yeah, I've got a lot of memories in Napa. 2017 was something I had to really, well, I never felt that before where I really feared for my life, you know, the, the wildfire was coming and we had to get out of there. So that, that was something that I've never experienced and really ever think about wildfires. We're, you know, we live in Alabama. It's all the time. It's humid. We got tornadoes. We got to worry about tornadoes and hurricanes and maybe, maybe some golf ball size hail. We ain't worried about wildfires. No, no, not at all. Control burns up with that too. Yes, they do. Yeah, that, that was an interesting experience. I missed that tournament my first year as a pro because Carrie and I were getting married. We, we based our wedding on the previous year's schedule and that was a week off. Uh, so then you and I, the next week are battled in Vegas. So you, yes, Amelia, I know why. And then you and I, next week, yeah, my first tournament, uh, go to Vegas and sure enough, you just blitzed it on Sunday and, and, uh, we both did. You played good too. You shot like 63 on Sunday. I did. I did. Did you have 61? Yeah, 61 humble brag. Yeah. You can do it, man. Man, man. Well, you know, when, when you went on the PGA tour, I'm always interested to talk to guys right after they win because I want to know like heading into the week where the vibes there, you know, like on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, did you hit shots in the practice round where your, where your, uh, where your sessions and on the golf course coming into the week? Did you feel really confident heading into the golf tournament? I did feel confident. Yeah. My physical game was decent. Uh, it's been decent for a long time. Uh, I felt like I was more disciplined and my routines were better. Mentally, I, I felt good. I, I've been, I've picked up some really good habits and I, I've been working with a mindset coach and I've been really consistent in my preparation. And I was like, you know what? Let's just do it for the week and see what happens. And, uh, I followed her lead and, and, uh, you know, it takes a lot of, a lot of discipline inside, inside your dome to keep it, keep yourself straight. And, uh, I did it and it was very rewarding. You know exactly how it is when you're a PGA tour pro and you have a big lead heading to Sunday. How difficult was it for you, you know, once you signed your scorecard on Saturday, till when you teed it up on Sunday, how were you able to manage those emotions? Because I know it, it couldn't have been easy. No, it wasn't, it wasn't easy. I was laying in bed, just trying not to think about the master's exemption and the two-year tour exemption and all the different things that come with it. But I just kept going back to a little quote, uh, I'm here. I'm now just trying to be present, um, letting those thoughts just run, run right by, um, and, and gather myself. But, you know, I knew once I got out there that, uh, all those thoughts would kind of take care of themselves. Uh, I knew that throughout the tournament, you know, it's going to be hard not to, not to think about, you know, how many of my head, um, but I was reminded that the tournament record was 21 under and that was kind of a mark that thought would be, uh, unbeatable considering the conditions were going to be harder on Sunday. Um, and they, it was windy and the greens were firm. Uh, I figured it was going to be really hard for somebody to get really low. And, um, it was, it was a great Sunday. I had, I had a bunch of fun, uh, battling out there and I was glad to come out on top. You almost almost want, when you have a big lead, you want the conditions to be tougher because it takes your mind off of, of trying to make birdies and, and watching the leaderboards and it just makes you focus on the shot in front of you. Yeah, I've been preparing back home in, uh, St. Simon's Sea Island area playing these golf courses, uh, you know, Sea Island and Ocean Forest in 25 30 mile an hour wind with, uh, my buddies that I prepare with all the time. And I wanted that wind to come up because I knew it was going to be harder to go low. If I stayed disciplined, you know, I could just hit the middle of the green, make some pars, pick off some birdies here and there and it will be hard for somebody to catch me. Um, but man, preparing here in, in, in Sea Island was, uh, certainly beneficial. Absolutely. And, and I know you don't ever like to lose any action on the golf course, especially to your Sea Island buddies. I've been a part of those games and, uh, I've definitely, uh, handed over a couple of Bilsey before, after those rounds as well. You seem to be the guy that's the collector and not the guy that pays out, especially, especially for any new guys that are coming to Sea Island, it's like a ride of passage. Like, come on, Pat fans, like, come on, get your, get your in this group. Make sure you get a caution a little bit. It's a good caution a little bit. That's right. Uh, I could think of a couple of guys that have taken their licks out there in the, in this game. I figured out pretty early on in life. It's a lot more fun when you win. So, uh, I try to do that as much as I can. Yeah. The guys, we've got such a great group of guys I like to get after it. We like to, like to gamble and, uh, compete. And that, that's what makes you better is competing. And that's something that I did a lot of heading into the week. I had, what, three or four weeks off because I missed the playoffs. And I was encouraged by my team to go play, go compete, get out there, just get back, get back after it. Um, you know, me standing on the range, making golf swings, I figured out a long time ago that that doesn't help. Um, as much as I've tried to make that my game, that that's not me. I like to get out there and compete. And, uh, you know, I want somebody, somebody pissed off. I mean, hopefully not me, but that's fine. Sometimes I get, I get beat, but, you know, I want some emotion and some competition out there. And, uh, I'm lucky to have that, uh, with me, you know, with all my friends. And you kind of just, uh, set it there. You know, you, you didn't make the playoffs this year, didn't make it last year. You're playing that 126 to 150 category, which for anybody that's been on tour, you know, that comes with a lot of doubt, right? Like you just don't know what events you're going to get into, especially with how much this, uh, the eligibility has changed for who's getting into events. Uh, you know, in some years that 126 to 150 category can play a whole lot of times this year. If there's a trickle down effect, it seems like more guys are playing in the open events. So it leaves you with, with more doubt on what you're playing schedule would be. How difficult was that this year? Yeah, that that's been tough. I picked a really bad time to, uh, slip out of the top 125. I've been very fortunate to receive a couple of sponsors invites. I did a bunch of Monday qualifiers. Um, I think I only successful one time. I was really fortunate to get a special invite into the Sony and because I've won there, I won there in 2018, uh, that was, that was huge to get a, get a sponsors invite there and then had a good week finished 13th and, and moved up in my category. So that helped, but yeah, the next, the next, the next six weeks, so bad and you, you missed six cuts. And so I got, I mean, I just, I just can't imagine how difficult this year really was. Yeah. Yeah. It's been, it's been really tough. Uh, there's, there's been a lot of downs, uh, a few ups. I seem to have played well in some opposite field events, which are great. I love some of those opposite field events. Those are some of my favorite tournaments, but you don't get near as many points. Um, yeah. This has been a tough year. There's not quite as many opportunities for those conditional guys. And I'm glad to be out of that category now. All right. Let's, we got to get it this conversation into, into Q school, like patent. If anybody that is no jia that knows yours, your story, it took you a long time to use the tour. It took you, uh, seven years of playing mini tour golf. It took you about eight Q school tries. And maybe I was the lucky charm, because you and I play together that final round of Q school, where you got through, we both were rookies at the same time on the court, very tour. But this year, right? So you go back, you're in that one 26, one 50 category. Now the PGA tours offering spots via Q school. So you tried your hand at it again. I mean, just put into perspective for people, what Q school is like, what the feelings are like. Obviously you have status now when you went to Q school. But for the years that you didn't have status and you're playing for a job, how hard was it? Is it was yesterday on, excuse me, I should say, Sunday at the pro court championship? Was that easier than any of the Q schools attempts that you've had over the years? You know, it really, it really was. I mean, um, you know, when you're winning a golf tournament or in contention, you know, you're doing well. And you know, you, you seem to know that the outcome will be, it'll be fine. But Q school is a different animal. I mean, you're playing for your job. And it's one series, small series of events, and you literally have to play well for the entire series. Back when we did it, we didn't really have the PGA tour, Canada, Latin America, America's or PGA tour, you or we didn't have any of that. So we can, we played many tours all year. And then, and when we say many tours, smiling, I played some many tours that may or may not pay out. Yeah, we need, we need to get into that real quick. So you and I played on the Hopkins tour. This was right before maybe I think we actually had just gone to Q school. I think we, it was around that time. All you need to know is that you and I were on this great battle with the Hopkins tour. But the week prior to that, right, Patton? Like we started like wondering like, are we going to get paid? And then we go play this event, right? Yeah, I mean, we're thing, things seem too good to be true. And when they're too good to be true, sometimes when you're talking about many tours, you're probably right. Yeah, it was great. I, I raked it in for a while. I might have broken them. But yeah, you won a tournament kind of late in that season, leading into Q school. That's right. I think you won like 16 grand in one event, which for that, I don't know how they're offering 16 grand. That was a big one, man. Yeah, you won the, you won the like a Hopkins tour major. It was like 16. Is that what it was? It was amazing. I guess we'll call it a Hopkins tour major. Yeah, you won 16 grand, which was a lot of cash for us those days. And that was seemed to get to be true. And I was, I played well, I might have finished top three years, two seconds or whatever. And ends up, yeah, they, they, they decided to, they were not able to pay out. And that was unfortunate for us. I'm ever getting that letter. And then in the email saying that, hey, we're not paying this thing out. And cause you, Pat had won a bunch of money there. I don't know how much they paid you to that point, but they were supposed to give you your Q school entry, as well as, you know, paying you out probably another probably close 15 grand from some other events. Yeah, I was probably, I earned a BMW exemption, like Q school paid for their, it accumulated up to somewhere around like 15, 20,000, as what it was basically worth. And yeah, we got a letter that said that that wasn't coming. It didn't surprise me. It pissed me off, but it didn't really surprise me. I had no clue. It was my first year as many tours. I'm like, what do you mean you're not paying? I'm 1,500 in the hole this week, just being here. The feels illegal. Yeah, it was a bit illegal. So at Hopkins tour, you, you can, you can go suck it. I remember the first time I saw VJ on tour, he's wearing this Hopkins Hopkins hat. I was like, Hey, VJ, like, I hate you, man. Like you don't know why, but like you're taking, you took patent and I his money. Yeah, you feel like he owed you the money. Yeah, give me some money. Well, you didn't pay either. You probably wouldn't get paid either. That's a good point. Oh, you don't see many Hopkins hats out there anymore. No, you definitely do not. But, man, I just real one, one last question on Q school. Do you have any, any horror stories or any stories that come to mind that just is like a classic Q school story where it just kind of encompasses exactly what Q school is and how difficult it can be? Well, yeah. I mean, the, the year that we played together that I got through, I remember my friend Joe Edder who caddied for me for a long time. Caddies for Davis Thompson. A great guy lives in St. Simes. But anyway, he's caddying for me for the first time ever in the final stage of Q school. And I'm on the other course like the PGA national, not the tournament. Final stage, final stage, okay, final stage. And I mean, I'm standing over this first tee shot. And I mean, my club and my hands are just visibly just doing this number. And I hit this like low snap hook into the water. And I looked at Justin. Well, that wasn't ideal. And he just started laughing. And he said, I knew when you said, well, that wasn't ideal that we're gonna be fine. But man, I got over that second shot. And my, I mean, for the first two or three holes, I mean, it looked like I was having a breakdown. I was jiggling all over the place. And it brings out a lot of emotions in you. And I was, I was battling hard. Yeah, it's, I mean, I've watched some train wrecks. I actually remember at Q school, the second stage, which getting through second stage is more important than making it through final. Because when you get to final, you get conditional status. But second stage, if you don't leave that place, you got nothing. And so I was watching you and you're playing chili chunks right at the 11th green. And I'm thinking myself, shoot, man, this is my first key school, like I'm cruising. And like, you're cruising. And then all of a sudden you weren't cruising. And I was like, Oh my God, are we about to, we're about to blow up here? Because all I had heard over the years is that Patton's got a temper. And I was like, is this temper about to make him lose making it to final stage? And then he just took one of those big old deep breaths. And then he chipped it up there, like to four feet, I think he walked away with a five or six. And I was like, Okay, he's fine. He's fine. Was this, was this a Southern Hills? Yeah, Southern Hills, right? I did. I did the, I did the Valspar qualifier this year there. And I did remember that whole day, I was a little distracted. There's a turkey on that whole big, long beard. And I'm glad that my mind didn't go back to those, those memories. But once you say that, I do remember having a little trouble. Pretty grainy down there in Florida. Yeah, definitely. So well, Patton, what is, what does the rest of the fall look like to you now? I mean, you've now, you got new goals, right? So you've made it to 70th in the FedEx cup. So you're trying to imagine chase down that 51 to 60 category to get yourself in that next 10. So we know we'll see at the century. But we hope that I imagine they will see you at Pebble Beach as well, right? Yeah, I don't know how all that works. I had to figure it out. I'm a TV guy. Do you want me explain it to you? Well, yeah, I will correct you. I don't I don't have new goals. My goal is to finish 51st on the, you know, year end list. So this was just a big step towards that goal. But I do not know what I'm, you know, I've been so focused on just doing me that I don't even know what this, you know, what all this does. Taking money from his friends, watching, I'm watching Hank Brown throw touchdowns, making sure, making sure he hits on Falcons money line last night. You dialed in. That would have been nice. That would have been nice. I played the under last night, which is good. I had to play. I had to play some stops. We got it. You got any plays for us on the way out here? Do you have anything for this week that's catching your eye? So my caddy is Dean. He runs the dynamite show on Instagram and he picked me to pick the five games, first week of college football. And I went, goose said, over five. That doesn't sound like that. Well, this, this sounds like me. I bet the opposite on four of them. So I ended up winning. Oh, okay. I feel like Florida state has new money out of the Hopkins tour. I think Florida state as well. That's a good point. That's well said. They've been getting me. That's well said. Well, I'll be, I'll be checking the board. I hadn't had time. Well, if you get a, if you get a hot play, man, send us your picks. I know what we'd love to showcase him on the show is somebody that I know is keeping up with that. Some statistics here and there when it comes to football games and what we're watching on the television. So, Beth, this has been great. Francie and I are so excited for you, Carrie and yourself and your family man. I know how hard you work at it. I know how hard this game can be the ups and downs and to see you, you know, try them through it all, man. It's just so cool to see. Well, I appreciate it. Y'all been great friends for a long time and I'm excited for your success too. You've been doing great. You've had switch gears and just take off running and it's really cool to see. Thank you, PK. Well, next time we'll play, I'll take my shot on the front nine. I'll take my half shot on nine and then we'll just on the back. That's all right. All right, PK. Thanks, buddy. Thanks for having me. Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Smiley Show. Got a sweet guest today here at Golden Tate joining us either from his house or footlocker. Not really sure. We got like all the shoes behind him. I mean, where are we at right now, GT? You know, we're in my shoe closet right now that my wife was, she kicked me out of her closet or our closet and, you know, built me a shoe closet upstairs and pretty much adding. And so that's why I'm hanging out where it's quiet. Good man. Good man. Well, we just had a great time in Nashville this past weekend for the Justin Thomas Foundation. We'll get into maybe some of the stories that we experienced over the fun couple of days that we did have. And you all guys know that Golden Tate's a legend played football at Notre Dame, won a Super Bowl at the Seattle Seahawks, went to Detroit, absolutely crushed it there in a couple other years in the league as well. And I'm sitting here before this interview, Golden. And I was sitting here looking at, you know, these are the best places to draft these guys in fantasy football. And I started thinking to myself, well, and like, now that you're out of the league and like a normal guy, like just like me, are you a fantasy guy or no? You know, I was actually more of a fantasy guy when I played. I remember when one year I was on, I think, four or five different fantasy league teams in one separate year. And it was not a benefit to have. I wasn't able like, you know, one o'clock games, I'm getting ready to play. And I guess people are announcing right before the game that some guys are not playing. So I would find out like after the game or halftime that I had someone on the plane, I was actually not even dressing. So I kind of got screwed a few times. But I end up winning a few, a few leagues because of, you know, just my expertise, if you will, or they don't care if you do fantasy football as a player. I know it's probably it's not a big deal. I guess they don't find out. Yeah, it doesn't matter if you play it, but there was like a threshold of like how much it could be worth before it became like illegal or you were getting trouble. But, you know, as long as you weren't like stupid about it, you were pretty much good. Like, I always played within the parameters for the most part. So I never had to worry about anything, but it was more fun and bragging right type of thing than anything. I guess I never had thought about players actually playing fantasy. Because, you know, when I would finish rounds up golden, on tour so often where there was the daily draft Kings fantasy lineup thing. And I'd shoot a 74 and I get these tweets. Like, dude, you suck. You should quit the game. I'm sure you get that got that all the time in fantasy. So I imagine as a player that it was a love hate relationship with with the fantasy stuff. Yeah, you're absolutely right. And I love fantasy football because it's teaching people the game to some extent, like some people who don't care about football, but they're forced to learn it and players because of, you know, fantasy football. But at the same time, like you said, man, when I'd have a big game, I get so much love on like, hey, you will help me win my fantasy league championship or the game this week. But when you would not have statistically a good game, there was times where I had, you know, three catches for 35 yards. Now, in real life, those were three first down catches in the fourth quarter to help us win the game. But in fantasy, it was dogwater. And so people would get on my timeline. I mean, the fact that people were so angry that they would find me on social, they wouldn't call me, find me on social media, have time to think about what they're going to say and send like a very nasty threat to me. And then hit send. I was like, wow, like you care too much. That's the red football for a reason. And like, but I would also probably get a game ball of that game because I had some key catches to help win. So I was like, man, you know, screw you guys. So whenever I have statistically a good game, I'd be all over checking Twitter and receiving the love. And then when I didn't have a statistically good game for fantasy, I probably stay off of it. No, that's that's definitely the right move for sure. Because it's it's a very toxic place when you start to look at your your Twitter after a fantasy football game. Imagine as a player, but going I was going back and just kind of looking at old highlights of yours. And and the the epic one that we have got to talk about is when you're playing for Notre Dame, the when you're when you catch that ball in the end zone, it's Michigan State and jump full freestyle starfish into the band. I mean, what's going through your brain? Like, because you didn't have a chance to slow down. And I imagine that was the issue. But you're like, you know what, might as well just swan dive here into the band. I mean, what are your memories for that moment? Yeah, I just remember it was a pretty tight game. And Jimmy Clarkson throws me a beautiful like moonshot go ball. And my body clock is, you know, going off like, man, I got to be pretty close to the end line of the end zone. But in college, you only need one foot down. So I catch the ball, get one foot down. And I have about probably three yards, three or four yards before, like, you got the entire Michigan State band sitting right there. And I remember seeing like, I don't know what, what I don't remember what instrument she played. It might have been like a clarinet or two buzz or whatever. But I remember seeing this little girl just like frightened, like she was like, Oh, crap. And I got, you know, fast thinking me, I just like, okay, well, I guess it makes sense to land on top of many people versus running this little girl over. Well, I have these pads on. So I swan I jump up in the air. I'm looking down. And next thing, you know, the Michigan State band go like out of the way and I land on nothing but plastic chairs. That's what we didn't see. That's what I didn't see. Yeah, I land on plastic chairs, but adrenaline's got me I just scored a touchdown. I'm definitely hurting. But I played it off and I crawl up out of there like, yeah, nothing's wrong here. We just scored a touchdown. And it became a legendary moment, I guess, for the rest of Notre Dame, Michigan State history rivalry. And it'll be shown for forever. And I love that people still ask me about it. And it's, you know, it's an amazing part to be a part of, you know, it's amazing to be a part of an historical school and having a historical moment, too. Yeah, that's awesome. I mean, it's one of the coolest highlights that you could ever watch. And for a guy that played in Notre Dame, Golden, you know, you know, I've played some golf together. I know how competitive you are. And I'm going to get to something with that competitive edge that you do have. But one quick golf question, when it comes to Notre Dame, I've always seen on the field, and I've always heard that golden, or that Notre Dame's field has a very long grass. And I always assumed it was for the game to be slower. But now maybe you can answer that question. But also if you threw a golf ball down in this primary rough, and you're hitting a 100 yard shot, are you catching a flyer? Is it coming out slow? Give me just your golf knowledge of what Notre Dame's field is like. Okay. So, okay, that's a great question. I never had someone ask me that. But if I had to describe, but I remember Notre Dame, we're grass guys, we're grass guys. Exactly. I would describe it as being at Torrey Pines in that rough for the farmers. Wow. Okay. We'll kill you grass. Well, maybe different type of grass, but like the field of like dropped the ball, the ball's disappearing. Like it's it's going to be gnarly to get out of. Like in Notre Dame, really, I felt like they grew it longer when we the faster the team, the longer the grass is going to be. So we played SC at home at grass, probably a little bit, you know, a quarter to a half inch longer, which makes a difference on, you know, running if you're a fourth, two, four, three type of guy. So yeah, it was it was pretty gnarly since then they've became a lot cooler and moved over to turf and have night games and a jumbo tron. Oh, it's turf now. Yeah. Oh, I didn't even know that. Man, that's that's on me for not being up to date on my Notre Dame turf field conditions. Yeah. You know, part of me is like, man, good thing they went over to turf, but we know turf is just not good for knees at all. Yeah, no. Yeah. Well, I'm so I'm guessing then, and if you had a hundred yard shot, the ball would, it would go on 80 yards. You're not getting to jump out of that stuff. So, okay. All right. So we're up to date on our turf conditions at Notre Dame. And I did mention the competitive edge side of you because I've seen this on the golf course. You and I like put us as partners. We're both work. We work really well together. We haven't egg really nicely. But the other part of your celebrations that we've got to get into is just when you when you had a touchdown and you know, you got one, like how you entered the end zone every time, whether it was a flip, whether it was waiting on the dude, I just like now that I know you, I just know that's that's who golden Tate is. He's like, man, like you want to you want to beat me? You want to say something? It's like, you got to get to do a little better next time. And that's kind of how you are on the golf course as well. I love to see it. Yeah. Yeah. So playing football wasn't much of a guy who was going to do a lot of shit talking. Like I wasn't going to just go out there and talk crap to people. That's just not my style. People a lot of times, we try to talk crap to me, but they learn the hard way that when you start talking crap to me, like, I'm not going to say much, but that's going like, I'm just going to play a little bit more, or I'm going to do a little bit more. And it's not even that I do it on purpose. It's just like, I hear what you're saying and like, okay, I got something for you. And eventually you get exposed. And as far as my celebrations, my celebrations, like jumping in the flip or flipping an end zone, going in backwards, they were never really planned. It's just it felt like it was appropriate for that catch right then and there. And like, the more difficult the touchdown and the catch, the better the celebration was going to be, typically. And, you know, some touchdowns are just like super easy. Like, I would make one guy miss and kind of walk in. And, you know, I would have something ready for like a nice little ball spin. Let's go. Nothing too, too. And, you know, nothing incredible as far as like the, you know, the celebration. So next time we play golf together, Golden, on a second shot into a par five, like, I need like, you hit the green, I need you on top of the cart flipping off, you hold a bunker shot, get to the front face of that bunker, do a little backflip into the bunk. Like, I need to see a little bit of this action out on the golf course. I think you've been kind of holding back a little bit. Fair enough. Fair enough. I'll start, I'll start, I'll get my pen and paper out. I'll start taking notes on different situations. Because I'll have to plan for, you know, the golf celebration. That's a little different. Yes. And then I'll have some ready. I'll have some, maybe we'll have like a nice little, you know, if we're on the same team, we'll have a nice little handshake that's like, boom, boom, boom, some, something crazy that people are like, dang, okay, y'all did that. Yep. That'll be us. And we will be on the same team. Cause I'm, I think we've just won too much now to where we, you can't separate these two, us two guys. We just, we just know how to win. All right. So you win a Super Bowl at Seattle, Golden, and you go to the Lions. And that's where really, I feel like your best statistics were, we're in Detroit. And this was something I've always seen on the internet. And I just want you to kind of put this into perspective is that Matthew Safford is maybe one of the most underrated quarterbacks of all time for what he is able to bring to that position. Can you just talk to that being a wide receiver and a guy that, that caught balls for Matthew Safford? Yeah. Without Matthew Stafford, I'm not sure I would have been known as the acting. I mean, he was phenomenal. And, you know, the good thing about being down a lot is that you knew you had to throw the ball a lot. Now, obviously, the bad thing you didn't win as much as we wanted to. But I knew that I was going to be fed and Matthew Stafford's arm is just, and it's so strong. Like, he makes hard throws look easy. His arm strength is so strong that it doesn't look like he's trying to throw it hard. It's just kind of like, but then it's like, it's right there on you. And anytime I came out of my break, the ball was there. And so for a receiver, it's so important for me to get the ball as soon as I'm coming out of my break, because that's less time for the DB to be crashing down on me. And like, what made me so good is that when I come out of my break, my brain would take a picture of like where the defense was or where I thought the defense defense was going to be once I caught it. And based off what their technique and stuff, so I'd get the ball early and I'd have a time to get the ball, make a quick move, and then get up field and they'd only gained maybe a yard on me. And so that was so important for creating angles at the wide receiver position and getting yards after catch and yards after first touch that man, Stafford made me the at keen because he was so strong, so smart. His where he placed the ball was incredible. There was times where I felt like I was completely covered. I'm like, my mom, dad, I'm covered. And he would throw the ball like right here where the demons couldn't get over the top and I would just fingertip catch it. DB slides off and I run for 30 yards, I was like, man, that's what made him next level. What were some of the attributes you picked up from Calvin Johnson in your time with in Detroit? You talk about someone who's special and makes the game look so incredibly easy. Calvin Johnson and I'm not one to ever, you know, when I played, I never thought there was anyone better than me and anything. I just felt like I could do everything. If I had the same passes, the same opportunity, I could be just as just as successful as Antonio Brown during his heyday instillers. Now I went to I went to Detroit and we heard about Calvin Megatron. I'm like, all right, I'm fighting for the number one position. And then I quickly found out like that dude is just different. I mean, to be that to be that lanky and also be that fast, but also be able to jump out out of Ford field and also have those long arms. He just had everything and it came. It really clicked on me during camp. We're after hard after hard day camp, we got there and Calvin was like, Hey, hey, do you want some gas? There's a gas or a sideline to sideline back to sidelines, a half gas or what we call it. And yeah, sure, why not? And, you know, he says, ready, go. And he starts going and he just looks like he's just that that I like, you know, like the slow motion Baywatch, like, yeah, yeah, like, and then me on the other hand, like you're fast forward and members like trying to keep up with them. And he's like, trying to have conversations like yo, Jesus, what are you thinking? Prex day, anything that you saw from him like, bro, I'm trying to keep up with you. Like, after practice, or after we get there running and like, that's where I'm really okay. He's just got a gift that I just don't have. And then my other, the other time that I realized Calvin was just different, it was like, we're running routes on the air before we get into the real deal of practice, quarterback, we all run the same route. And we run a sever or we're on a go route, which is the last one is run down the field, especially Ken. And staff are chucks at 30, 40, 50 yards down the field. And Calvin just kind of like lights and his long arms. So I'm like, all right, cool. I go right, I go next, same exact ball, same quarterback, except for I'm like running my tail off. And when I get to the route to the ball, I have to like, stop and like full on like stretch out to catch it. And I said, okay, that's what makes him him. He just does things that people just physically cannot do because he's so gifted. And that's what I realized. Okay, Megatron's a beast. Yeah, it's, it's kind of like playing a Scotty chef, we're in pickleball. You know, it just, it just feels like he's too gifted. You can't be this good at golf and be this good at another sport. And that's where I feel like we got to take this conversation golden, right? You and I, we played on the golf course, but, you know, we had a great night in Nashville and, and golden, I think like you kind of planted this seed in this is in that you're a big pickleball guy, you got your own paddle coming out soon. I know you love the sport. It's something that you play all the time. And you kind of like, hey, well, you know, let's play some pickleball. And then finally, like you got four of us to go out there and play. It's me, you, Sam Burns, it's got a chef or did you have any expectations of how good Scotty was going to be a pickleball? You know, I, I didn't, I'd seen him play in like celebs. And I thought he had some game, but I didn't realize how good he was. And especially how good he was under the conditions that we were playing under. It was a, it was a 30 mile an hour win. Like it's been a long day. You know, we were out on the golf course out watching the air church and, and Cole's window playing music. So we were in a position, right? Like we're not, we're not fully there, but it was, you know, I felt bad, right? Because like, Sam and I were, y'all just kept hitting it at us and rightfully so. Like once y'all realize, like, or once you realize that how good Scotty was, you're like, all right, we just can't give away points. Like ask it, just get it over. So I'll just get it over. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we played pickleball with golf cart lights. Okay. And pretty late and thankful that no one got hurt. But like, his, his reaction time and his footwork was good. And he had, as we would expect, he had really good hands and soft hands and, but he was able to place the ball. And so it was really fun to play with him. And, and all of you guys, and just kind of the camaraderie we built. And I mean, we, we, we created a memory that night that we sure did. We'll tell a lot of people and it'd be fun to tell too. So, you know, that was one of those things where I was excited for it to happen. And when it ended, I was like, bummer, because this was really cool. It was a lot of fun, right? And after Sam and I finally bowed out, like, I was like, you guys, you all want to play a one-on-one, like YouTube play, Sam and I've had enough. Do you care to go through how difficult the one-on-one match was with Scottie? And do you remember what the, I think it was a two games. I don't remember what the scores were. But I do remember Scottie being victorious, which shocked me. Yeah. Yeah. He, he has a really good understanding for the game of pickleball. And it's, it's kind of wild. Like he was putting me in situations where I just couldn't create an edge. Like, athletically, I feel like going into the match, I was more athletic than him. But after he whooped up on me twice, I was like, okay, wow, this guy can play. You know, I, I'd love to play him when we both are fresh and you get to every ball. I mean, you're still getting every ball, but still, I mean, he, the positions that he was putting you in, he had you running around, man. He had me out there just running sprints all over the court. And he just sit at the middle of court, just like angles, angles. And I would get one or two of them. But then the third one, he would just like close it out because I was burnt out and tired. But would love to like get another game and figure out a way to get some. Yeah. Yes. And Sam and I will watch, you know, I think that'll be much better because Sam, Sam and I, we were, if handicap wise, we realized quickly that we were maybe like a five to eight handicap, maybe not quite as good as we thought we were after playing with you too. And it was, it was a lot of fun GT. And the last question on the way out is about baseball. You know, this is something that you were drafted out of high school. And I wanted to ask you about this because I can't imagine how difficult it was. You know, you got drafted in '07 and you decided to go play college football. And then you have such a long career in the NFL through 2021. And then you said, you know what, I'm going to go try baseball again. What was that experience like, how difficult was it? And are you happy that you went and did it? Well, I'll answer the last question first. Yes, I am very happy that I went and did it because I thought I was going to be playing baseball for the rest of my life. Like I got drafted out of high school. Then I got drafted after my rookie season in Seattle. And I suddenly, I just decided to go play football. I just felt like, oh, football's more of my personality, more of my style. I could have a greater effect on a football field in the baseball diamond. So suddenly I was like, okay, I'm playing football. And so the fact that I was, you know, pretty much down football and my wife was willing enough to like, let me go give it a shot, not that she really wanted me to go do that. But I was thankful. I trained my tail off for a few months with Matt Noakes, who played catcher, who's a Lisa's uncle, my wife's uncle, and grinded it out. And I do and did think there was something there. It's just, you know, where I was in my life, like, did I really want to go pursue another professional sport while having three young babies after I'd had a spectacular career in one sport, you know, one of the greatest sports in the world and made as fortunate enough to make a bunch of money to support my family for the rest of our lives. It was like, you know, what's more important at this point to be a dad or be on the road for, you know, months at a time and double layer AAA grinding your grinding up, trying to get to the MLB at the age, I guess I'm 36 now the age of 33, like your window is very small. So it was fun and cool. That's right. And I definitely felt like I could do it. But just maybe my next life. Yeah, no, I feel that it's almost like back to the mini tours. So once you have that lifestyle that you've had being in the NFL and getting back on the buses and how difficult that can be, that is when you realize it's like, you know what, you know, I had an angry career just like you said in the baseball, you know, in another life, right? And I actually would have loved to see what your baseball career would have been like for how fast you are, how good, like, where do you think you would have finished up in MLB if that's the right you will. You know, I think I could have maybe found a way with like the proper coaching and grinding for like it, it take a while because guys, you know, it'd been years since I've had a baseball, but like the strength, the fast twitch, the arm strength, like I was all there at a hand-eye coordination to track balls. That was easy to easy for me to do. But hitting is what separates guys. You know, I was, you know, in my mind, I thought I was going to be the next mookey bets. Yeah, realistically, probably not. You know, self self belief is something I've never struggled with. Yeah. Like I feel like I can do a lot of things and some of it's just like, dude, you just don't have a clue. And so it, you know, I like to think I could have done it, but realistically, probably not. Well, I've seen you be able to accomplish so many things, whether it be football or on the pickleball court. And by the way, when and where is this pickleball paddle coming out and how can we find this? Yeah, if you just go on a paddle tech website, you can find mine and I can also share link with you to add to this. But yeah, I partnered with paddle tech, which is the best brand pickleball paddles out there, in my opinion, simply because the number one player in the world, Anna Lee Waters plays and plays with it. And she's won a bunch of tournaments and hands down them when playing the world. And so I went to partner with someone who was reputable, I had good stuff. And so I partnered with paddle tech and they allowed me to create my own paddle that we spent a lot of time on, which, you know, I'm kind of like the first non pickleball player to do something like this. And so I want to create something that was clean, crisp, something that people who are new to the game could play with, but also that the pros would be like, okay, the play, it plays well, it looks clean, not goofy. And so I feel like I captured a whole lot in the design. And I'm super proud of it. And if you're looking to get in the pickleball, I'd love it if you guys tried it out, gave it a shot, there's going to, you know, two different paddles you can choose from. So yeah, all right, there you have it for those that are looking for a new pickleball paddle or just trying to pick up the game and when it gets started, check that out. We'll definitely be able to provide that for you with the link in golden. You're gonna have to send me some shoes, bro, because like now I've been staring at these shoes all day. Like I'm dying to get some of these, these nights you got behind you. I appreciate your time, G. This has been a lot of fun. Absolutely. I look forward to seeing you soon on the course or on TV. I guess I'll be seeing you though. Yes, sir. Go and tell everybody. Thanks, man. Well, there you have it. Patton Kazayar, Golden Tate, hope you enjoyed both those conversations for very different reasons, but just highly entertaining across the board. I mean, I think we talk a lot about the superstars and the sport of golf, but it's really cool to see a guy who, as we covered on our first show of the week on Monday, just listening to him into 2023 in a really emotional place. And then he just keeps grinding, gets a win, and has, you know, he's in a much better place for a status going into 2025. So huge props to Patton and then Golden Tate, man. I mean, I was sitting there. We were joking about this after the interview. I was sitting there and texting Jackson about all the clips we want to do. That's a clip. That's a clip. That's a clip. Every one of those stories is just phenomenal. It sure was. And the one thing that I forgot to ask Patton about, and he mentioned it in the interview, was qualifying for the Masters. I didn't know what the FedEx Cup fall events qualified you for the Masters. And that might be a debate we have later is that is that should it? I'm not sick. I love it. Absolutely. But it's funny. I was picking a hat this morning, trying to figure out what I wanted to wear for the interview, because it's the morning didn't didn't quite get the shower going to get the hair right. So threw a hat on. And there was a Masters hat that I was thinking about wearing. I was like, I don't think he got into the Masters, so I'm not going to wear the hat. But if I knew he did, then I would have worn the hat just being like, hey, you're going here. You're going it's that was an interesting one to me that, yes, we'll discuss on another pod. But I think, listen, it's that has got to be a because the field in these fall events, obviously, not as strong as like a regular tour event. So it's there's so much on the line for these guys. Of course, you're playing for that next and status. Of course, you're playing to get into the century. But I mean, the Masters, I got to assume for every guy in the field, that's the most important prize of all. That is 1000%. And yeah, just it's just another big event to give yourself an opportunity to make some big time dollars. But also, you know, there's it is considered a it's not a signature event, right? But it's got all the points for it. So it's just another week where you can go out and earn some points. But yeah, you said you you said it all great. I mean, it was such a great interview. Golden was his stories were fantastic as well as Patton. So I think a lot of people are going to really enjoy this episode. I think so too. Hope you did. And we've got some fun stuff coming up. So next week, of course, we're flipping over to President's Cup Week and we have a ton of content for you that week, a couple of different preview episodes. And then as we do for all major events, you'll get journal entries every single night recapping the day of play. Smiley will be there in Montreal, you know, covering it for NBC and golf channel. So looking forward to that. Tomorrow, we're headed to Tobacco Road in Sanford, North Carolina to get back on the course and shoot some long course content. Well, a place that I love, you know, it's near and dear to my heart. That place is super cool. Look, Walker's fired up about it right now. He's he's wanting me to go away from the microphone. But what do we how we feel and smiley? I know a state of your game is coming off the program at Troubadour. You're feeling pretty good. I've been hitting it pretty good. Head into this member guest. So we might post a little number tomorrow. Yeah, you know what? I feel really confident about my good ones being really good. And that to me always gives me just, I think yesterday I played and I was able to make corrections on the golf course. And I like typically when I start hitting the heel, I haven't been able to make corrections. So like to go to start the round hitting it really well, go through the middle of the round where you're you're just hitting the heel. And then I was able to figure it out. And I haven't been able to make that adjustment. So that to me was a step in the right direction. So I feel confident about that. I do feel really confident that I'm a school one across the green pitching. I don't know what's going on right now, but I just kind of have a case of the yayas. So it's either it's funny. It's either really, really good my pitching or like all of a sudden, I'm just like, Oh my, which has happened. So there's there's a bit of like, I don't know if it's ball position or setup. I'm going to need to have to send a video to my short game coach, James Seekman to seek to see where I'm at going into the week. Getting right. Also, not sure what the turf conditions are going to be. Got a lot of rain the past 24 to 48 here in North Carolina. So I'm hoping it dries out. That's fine. Honestly, we'll play with Queenie Place even better. That's right. That just and I'm thinking we've been workshopping this, but I'm thinking format is just like we played a spy, true, a little pro am action where it's I get some shots you you're playing straight up and we're just going to see what net best ball score we can shoot. Yeah, either that or an individual match, where I just give you strokes and we play a match against each other. One of the two. Well, I think you're cutting me eight. We're playing a match. So we're playing a rippertease rated 72.5. This place is, I, I'm most excited just to see you reacting to this place. I can't wait. I can't wait. It's wild. It's like playing golf on Mars. So I think it's going to be super cool on YouTube. That, of course, we're going to have some back and edit time as we did at Spyglass Hill. So stay patient with us there, but just make sure you subscribe to the YouTube because that's going to be, that's going to be dropping in October. And we're thrilled about that. So picking up Jack's at the airport at 420 today, maybe go to Apex and hit the Culver's. That's all we got, man. I'll see you in Sanford, brother. Yeah, I'll see you see tomorrow, man. Excited to place them golf, check out to back our road and here before we know it, President's Cup Week is going to be here. And I tell you what, when, I think when a lot of people turn the TV on for that, they're going to be really excited for match, play golf. And I think when I get up to Montreal, I'm going to feel the same way. I can't wait. We're excited for that. Walker is, he's so excited. He's really anxious. He's trying to rip the cord out of my mic. So I think that means this episode's over. Thank you so much for watching and listening. And we'll talk to you right back here again very soon. You know, I listened to this talk. Yeah, he's really cool. And all of our fans and subscribers, but make sure you like it. Subscribe. It's cool. See what you guys are doing. I know golf fans appreciate it, but we do too. So please keep it up. For all the good people of YouTube, like and subscribe. You guys have some good takes. So I'm happy to come on and and shoot.
A packed edition of The Smylie Show begins with Patton Kizzire joining to discuss the journey to his third PGA TOUR victory, and swapping mini tour and Q school stories with Smylie Kaufman. Former Notre Dame and NFL star Golden Tate then joins the show to tell some incredible stories ranging from what it was like to play with Calvin Johnson & Matthew Stafford, to Scottie Scheffler’s incredible skill on the pickleball court.
