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How Filthy Is He? (6/26/2000 Nitro)

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23 Sep 2024
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[MUSIC PLAYING] Welcome to the Butts in the Seats podcast, episode number 115. With a very special guest today. It's the same guest as always. But is he not special? He's just in your lap right now. Otto has decided that today, he is a lap dog, and we will see how long this lasts, because it's been a couple minutes now. We will update the audience when this changes. It will. But I'd make alongside Emily. Hello. Alongside Otto von Ruthless. Sure is. Emily, what is it we do here? Well, Nick, we take a week-by-week look at the slow, but inevitable downfall of WCW through the late '90s and early 2000s. And we've hit pause in the downfall for at least three weeks. We've plateaued. It's a plateau. It's coming back. We know it's coming back. Yeah, and the ratings have kind of plateaued, because it's still like a 2/8, as opposed to like a 2/7, and it's like, yeah, it's going to hold steady for the most part until it doesn't. Honestly, I am biding my time until we get to bash the beach. I want to play victory music when we start that episode. Even if it's bad, like, we know it's going to be bad. But when that episode finally starts, I want to play like-- [MUSIC PLAYING] Just to like, we're finally fucking here. What does PEGAL have to do with this? I beat the level. That's a niche reference. So today, we are talking about the June 26, 2000, W.W. Monday Nitro, live from Des Moines, Iowa. I know this date as the Stitch date. I don't know if that actually made its way to pop culture, because it's 6.26. But I also think it might be-- That's Stitch. Yeah, Leelow Stitch. I also think it might be the-- Wait, why is it 6.26? Experiment 6.26. Yeah, but what does that have to do with Iowa? The date. Oh, sorry. I'm like, pretty sure it takes place in Hawaii, babe. No. But I guess it's an important question nowadays. Nani, would you? I don't think that's a question. The answer was always yes. Even from me, who is woefully straight. Yeah, it's one of those-- oh, yeah, hear me out. Jessica Alba, you don't understand what that phrase means. No. It's been misused enough at this point that just-- it's over. But we have this Nitro in one more until "Bash of the Beach." And-- I vote we barrel throw. Barrel throws in. We're not even reviewing this one. Sorry, guys. Yeah, this one doesn't need to be reviewed, honestly. Right before we started recording, we kind of looked at each other and were like, do you remember this episode? We didn't watch it that long ago. Like two days? I do have some backstage notes from the world of wrestling and all that. OK. So Gorgeous George has broken up with Randy Savage and has now debuted in ECW. Wait, were they actually like shooting dating? Yeah. I don't think I realized that. Yeah, that's why she's on TV. That was literally the whole reason. Oh, OK. Well, good for her. The ECW arena has a Ferely sign out front. I think that did change ownership. I think the 2300 arena is not owned by different people. I mean, like today, 2024, it's owned by different people. Yeah. Yeah. Apparently, Vince Russo is waiting on WSW to come crawling back to him. And we're done. Otto has left my lap. He heard Vince Russo like, that's enough. I'm done. He's like, oh, man. That's enough. He has left the room. He wants nothing to do. Otto has left the building. He wants nothing to do with this conversation. And now he's next to me. He's just changed parent, you. But yeah, Vince Russo is waiting on WSW to come crawling back to him because the show has too much wrestling, bro. Yeah, that's a good thing. No, it's actually incredibly obvious that Vince Russo is not on this show because the wrestling is highlighted. And it's interesting wrestling. And it's wrestling that's actually allowed to breathe. It's nice. WSW Saturday night has moved to the mid-afternoon is now just a recap show. I don't know what the new name for this. I was going to ask. So it can't be Saturday night anymore. And then I have two pieces of Hulk Hogan news. Oh my god. Can you ever stop talking about this, man? They contradict each other. OK. Hulk Hogan, at this point, is expected to win the title at Dash the Beach. OK. Also, he is negotiating with Fox about a new wrestling show to the point where he was quoted like 150 million talent budget for everybody, not just for him. Oh, I thought it was like-- he just was quoted $150 million salary. Because he's going on Bubba the Last one is talking about this. And he's like, yeah, I might be leaving after the July pay-per-view. Oh, he's announcing his departure? But put a pin in this. Oh, look, that is the one thing I know about-- The fucking July pay-per-view. Call it. Know what you're wrestling at. You debuted at this show. But yeah, so put a pin in this because I honestly wasn't aware of this wrinkle to Dash the Beach. So we'll talk about a lot when we get there. By the time we get to Dash the Beach, are Bush Fish Off and Russo back, or is Russo back? Yes. He's booking Dash to the Beach. Yes. Gotcha. And Fish Off is still in that unclear area of-- no one's saying he's gone, but he's clearly not here. OK. So no one really knows what the fuck's going on with Eric Fish Off. That said, I think it's time for a weather report. Oh, no, there's thunder. [GUNSHOT] Oh, no, there's worldwide. Yeah, so it's fun to recap. Rick Steiner and Tank Abbot have officially broken up. Maybe we're still trying to get Dale Torborg to embrace the demon. That's just going to continue tonight as well. He knocks out Dale with a shovel into an open grave. There's a new hardcore match rule. Per the cat, all hardcore matches must start in the back and end in the ring. Oh, what? I missed that on the recap. I was saying this is for me actually going through. This is not from the-- Oh, I understand now. We got it, because the show does open with a thunder recap, but no, I went through to catch any of that kind of shit. Yeah, that's wild. We'll see how long that lasts. They'll forget that it was even a rule. David Flair gaslights Daphne about-- you didn't see me kissing Miss Hancock. That was Jeff Jarrett. That was the other blonde man who looks totally different. It was production weird shit. So then he attacks one of the guys in the production truck. I think, like, shaves his head. It's the guy Woody who we see later. Oh. Yeah, he's becoming a character for some reason. Canyon is hollowed out a book to hide a brick inside of it as a weapon. Good to remember. Tank Abbott is very into three count. Not-- not into. Yeah, he's a fanboy. Yes, which is strange. What a strange trajectory career-wise this man has taken. And the show ended with WWE champion Jeff Jarrett getting pin clean. Cool. Not the most relevant. I just feel the need to keep noting that it's like, do you care about this man at all? No. They don't. We'll get to that in a second, because Nitro opens with a limo arriving. It's the cat and smooth. Who is smooth? Limo driver. Yeah, just a random guy, just some dude. Yeah, they've written the show, and it's like, you're my good luck charm. Stick around. Yeah, smooth is like giving cats some ideas about what to go on in the show, and the cat's like, oh, that's good. You stick with me. I'll get you whatever. Basically promising him riches in the future, and the company yada yada. So the cat comes out, like, to the opening pyro, basically. Because he gets a lot, and it's clearly like, all right. Oh, yeah, it's not his. Yeah, it's a combination of-- it's done to his music, but it's clearly meant to be the opening pyro. Yeah. Cat says he's a great show for tonight, and hypes up Jeff Jarrett versus Hulk Hogan for the Bash, and Goldberg versus Kevin Nash. Despite saying that Jeff Jarrett versus Hogan's for the title, he then books a fatal four-way world title match. Yeah, why do we keep doing this? I don't know. Why do you keep having Jeff Jarrett, the heel champion, who's in with management, defended it when he doesn't want to? Yeah. I don't understand what they're doing with Jeff Jarrett. But it just seems like they're trying to convince him to quit. I just realized something funny about Jeff Jarrett. Do you remember what his last WWE F gimmick was prior to this? No. It's the women should be barefoot and pregnant. Oh, yes. Which I find ironic, because frankly, Jeff Jarrett in WWE should be seen, not heard. Oh, god. I want to see him wrestle. I don't want to see him talk about it. That's true. I couldn't remember if that was after, like, when he came back or not. No, no, baby. He doesn't come back until. He doesn't come back until WWE? Until either late 2010s or 2020s. I'll be damn. Yeah. They go. He goes to form TNA. That's the whole reason. Well, I know. But I thought that he came back and did one last little run in WWE before going to TNA. No, no, no. That's the reason TNA exists, because he can't do one last run. Oh, god. That's it for this nitro. For the four way, there will be qualifying matches. It'll be Kevin Nash versus Mike Awesome, who they seem destined to feud at one point, and then they kind of pull that off real quick. Yeah, this doesn't bring it back to heat. Yeah, because Mike Awesome debuted attacking Kevin Nash. Oh, yeah. And then they did nothing with that. Yeah. The cat, though, I'm sorry, you're not even going through the rest of the matches yet. The cat does not seem to think that Mike Awesome even has a chance, because while he's describing the potential outcomes of this match for the tournament, he's like, Kevin Nash versus Mike Awesome, and when Nash wins, he'll be in this corner. Essentially. That's what he's saying. Dude. I think he realizes what he did. Yeah. Oh, then, but it could be these guys because he does that with Goldberg, too. We'll get them a sec because the next match is Scott Steiner versus Shane Douglas. And then he's like, Goldberg gets a buy. Goldberg doesn't have to face anybody. Oh, right. Which prompts hacksaw Jim Duggan to come out. Hello. Yeah, this is weird. If it wasn't for the thumbnail, I would not have been ready for Jim Duggan. Oh, was he in the thumbnail? Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Immediately. Let's say man has one move with this was pretty quickly. Yes. So I was incorrect last week when I was like, maybe they'll just brush off Goldberg being a heel. They've instead decided to just aim directly for the iceberg. Iceberg. More like ghost break. And it's like, all right, what if we had Goldberg get heat by beating up a man who survived cancer? Oh, yeah. And they don't let you forget that either. They give him like the later the show, I think, but they give him a whole, like, remember you love this man sort of package, like, remember this man is the face and you will cheer for him regardless of who he goes against. Right. Yeah. The heel. Remember. In memoriam package for Jim Duggan in the middle of this show. Duggan's still alive, isn't he? Yeah. He's doing great. Was in North Carolina, I saw a flyer and he was like the headliner for this indie show. No, when he eventually does pass away, hopefully in a very long time, the in memoriam package we're going to have for this man is going to be one for the books. Well, I'm sure it'll be around our anniversary. Oh my God. We're so cursed. We didn't realize Bob Barker died on our wedding day. We were so focused. And Bob Barker was a former guest host of raw. We were so focused on Sid passing away on the day of our anniversary. They were like, oh, fuck Bob Barker too. Last year. Last year. Yeah. We missed it. Okay. Well, last year we were a little busy. Yeah. I was looking up. I'm like, Oh God, did anyone else like famously? I was like, wait, last year? Yeah. Last year was a bad year on our anniversary. That's an omen. But yeah, Jim Duggan's after the ring. He says he's been sitting around long enough and enough is enough. Duggan says he'll stand forward with Hogan, flair and sting on and ask for like, what have the heels done to Goldberg? I used to respect this man and he's half the man he used to be. So the cat then calls Doug in a redneck. What is Jim Duggan's response? You say he's got all he's got. He's doing the role in the dice too much. It's really hell he's got. If you get that reference props to you, the cat then books Goldberg versus Duggan and Doug is like, well, I health might be fucked, but a man's got to do what a man has got to do. And Duggan does mention Eric Bischoff and Russo where it's like, you'll have to explain when they come back. Why Doug such a Doug and suddenly the world champion and I'm like, yeah, be wild. Imagine imagine if he did win it spoilers and then Russo and Eric Bischoff are just like watching from home like, what the fuck? Duggan starts one last USA champ before he leaves. It's got one note and he's got to hit it. So we have four matches set up for tonight. Yeah, we've got actually a card. I'm amazed Jeff Jarrett's about to have to qualify for his own title defense. Oh my God. Let me get commentary checking in Tony Giovanni, Mark Madden and Scott Hudson all with shirts. Thank God. Sorry about that. Thank God. Commentary note that Jeff Jarrett's probably screwed and losing the title tonight. And Tony then, you know, does the finger to the ear? Oh, what's that? Oh, we have to go suddenly to backstage. Yeah. He kind of plays it off. Like, wait, we have who doing one backstage? It's just Vampiro in a dank room. Dank? It's just smoky. Dank. He wants Dale to bring out the demon. He's to embrace his inner demon. And Dale and Asia see this and Dale says he's going to end this tonight. This storyline came so quickly out of nowhere. Like, Dale Torborg is suddenly like a main character and we haven't seen him in like six months. Oh, apparently in those Hogan radio segments, he's just like fucking story sucks. Oh, really? That's just what he talked about. See, we talk about him on Bubba the Love Sponge and that literally is the only reason. Like his, his, his interviews outside of wrestling are a little legendary, honestly. Like, they are, they are mythical almost. That's why I want to listen to him on the impulsive podcast. I don't want to listen to Logan Paul's fucking podcast, but I want to hear what Hulk Hogan spews. We're recording this like a day or two after that episode came out and I have not sat down to watching it because I can't get my brain in the right space to listen to Hulk Hogan and Logan Paul talk for a few hours. Gotta get there though. We talked about Bubba the Love Sponge on our most recent TNA episode on the Patreon and we compared him to Mark Madden and I'm like, yeah, Mark Madden never had awesome Kong want to fight him. It's true. And I'm like, I want to see that match. I want to see awesome Kong in a handicap match against Mark Madden and Bubba the Love Sponge. And fuck it. Throw a man cow in there. Honestly, awesome Kong would ruin them. Yes. Yes. That is my hope. I want to be clear. Backstage Shane Douglas is told he's facing Scott's signer tonight in the tournament and isn't happy. Yeah, no kidding. Let me see Canyon and a book signing and no one's there. Oh, so sad. It's like, why would it gone? You want to go on? Yeah. Me Canyon. Signing a fake book? Yeah. It's the best kind. I have to pretend to read it. As you're sitting next to our book show full of books and none of you, none of them you've read. Come on. I totally have read. We have the whole Game of Thrones series. How many of those did you read? I watched them. I lived the Game of Thrones. We didn't go to a very strange already in the ring team. It is Mark Jindrak and Sean O'Hare. Your reaction was, look at these fucking jobbers. They look like jobbers. Honestly, it's the shorts. It's the shorts, Trunks. It's very John Cena ruthless. Yes. Aggression look. Yes. Because these men, it really does come down to the wardrobe for me. That's how I can tell what level they are in the company. If you're wearing the undies, you can be taken seriously. If you're wearing leggings, you can be taken seriously. The short Trunks? Who the fuck do you think you are? Now, the filthy animals come out. Can we take them seriously? It just gets worse every week. Rey hasn't even debuted his fucking devil horns yet. Oh, no. I don't know if that's a long thing or a short thing admittedly. Well, hey Nick, that's the way we like it. Well, honestly, I've accidentally started predicting things a week out. Oh, really? No, no. Like, a week or so ago, I was like, yeah, I know Tank Abba joins up with three count at some point. Fucking now. Oh, yeah. You're right. Also, spoilers. I did that with TNA. I'm the most recent episode of like three times. I'm like, what? Damn. You have a wild memory, man. I guess just storylines happen shorter than I think. But, yeah. It is Mark Jidrek and Sean O'Hare versus Hoventud Guerrero and Rey Mysterio, who I remind you is still not healthy. Mike Theory was, did they give Rey Mysterio an easier match against two green jobbers because he's still injured? But I don't think the way he wrestled, I don't think that's the case. Yeah, I'm kind of suddenly understanding why Rey Mysterio needs so many fucking knee surgeries in his life because he doesn't know how to stop. He's not a stop and heal. I feel the animals cut a nonsensical promo at the start of this, like they're all over the place. We do get a feel that that's enough, but like, it's so quick and fleeting. Like, he's not really leaning into the essence of that part of his promo. They're focusing more on whoop de whoop jigga what whoop de whoop jigga what? I hate it. At least I didn't say who do who this time. It just gets worse, man. Like, I don't understand what's happening with these. This was my favorite faction. I loved the filthy animals. What happened? Conan started talking, but we didn't hate it when he was talking originally like that was funny. The fucking strawberries. Like, that's funny. We liked that. That's the way we like it. The rookies throw the filthy animals around early. O'Hare catches Hoovy midair and press slam throws him. Hoovy slides under but eats an O'Hare clothes line, mark ginger I tags in and looks like a fucking giraffe walking for the first time. He sure does. His first punch. He throws. He throws it left-handed. I'm actually going to Google search right now. I don't know if you've been answered. Is Mark Jindrak lefty because it didn't look like it and that has me worried? Maybe he was trying to like make sure that he didn't hit the punch. Maybe he didn't trust his ability to pull back or not actually hit somebody. So he's like, oh, with my left hand, even if I do hit him, it won't be as strong. Like, maybe he's trying to like trick his brain. Oh, he is lefty. Oh, well, that's just bad. By the way, fun fact about Mark Jindrak. He was originally going to be the fourth member of Evolution. It was going to be him not Batista. Wow. They filmed the vignettes with him at Triple H. Like, he's not the guy. He doesn't fit. Like, ah, yeah. He fits pal. What are you talking about? How can you put Dave Batista next to Mark Jindrak and like say, oh, yeah, they can tell it's the same role. But yeah, Jindrak has fucking nothing here. Like, you know, O'Hare still knew, but O'Hare like has some presence. Yeah. He does. He kind of gets it. I do have a little bit of bias of like, I believe a bit in Sean O'Hare. I believe in Joe Hendry. But Jindrak managed to successfully miss a lion's salt without diving, but he takes his fucking time on it. Yes, he does. He like goes over to the ropes, like stops, grabs the top rope. All right, let's do this. Get balanced. But he doesn't neck himself, so. There's something to be said for that. Like, yeah, he's slow, but he's safe. Movey and Ray hit some double team action and who he hits a missile drop kick. The filthy animals then hit a was up type move, but Ray doesn't leg drop as opposed to a headbutt. I like that better. It is less face to the take action. Yeah. And I feel like a leg drop, you can get more power almost because you can kind of follow through with the leg. You can't really follow through with the head. The filthy animals just kind of work over Jindrak to like little ref issue. It's one of these things again, where both men are just in the ring. ref is like, hey, that's a shot on here. You kick him in though. Like, fuck you. They try for some sort of move, but Jindrak ducks and they end up scissoring mid air. Scissor me. Daddy, yes. Shadow hair hits a diving clothesline to both men and then the rookies hit stereo suplexes. Oh hair throws Ray out of the ring and Jindrak hits a tilt or a slam before a Chantan bomb for the win with the rookies. I was actually very surprised that the rookies won. Post match. The other filthy animals attack the rookies until Lance Storm comes in from the crowd again and takes out the filthy animals. There's going to be serious for a second regardless of whether you will allow him. Yeah, this was a decent match. Honestly, this was a little bit of fun. I like it was rough watching the new guys for a minute or two there and it did sort of fall apart with the filthy animals at one or two points. But this was just a bit of fun and it was nice to see some new faces that actually can hold their own. Yeah, I don't know how competent shadow hair actually is or is he just next to mark Jindrak. Right. Yeah, I mean, I constantly hear good things about shadow hair. You watch the invasions. I've probably seen a shadow hair match, but I don't remember any of this stuff. I think the main thing people know him for in the benefit of total hindsight in 2024 is he had a devil's advocate gimmick on SmackDown. Oh, this is ringing a big bell. He also got really paired with Roddy Piper in 2003, but he would just like come out like a white background and be like, come on, no one's going to know. Do it. Like shooting your wife gamble. It's fine. I haven't been in every wet anywhere though. That was the problem. It was just vignettes. And then he came out and like wrestled like shadow hair. Yeah. Huh. He does team with Chuck Palumbo during the invasion. Who are you Chuck Palumbo? I don't know if they team before that. I don't expect a lot of continuity of teams from Debbie seven or two with the invasion. Next week on nitro seat, Chuck Palumbo match up with shadow hair. Chris Jericho is going to suddenly come back. Oh my God. That was the ultimate warrior and everyone's going to pop in for two minutes. Yep. Just to fuck up Nick backstage, the filthy animals yell at the cat. So he recruits him to go get Lance Storm and they're like, we need to get paid more. No, go get him. No, in a locker room, Jim Duggan is getting ready and his wife begs him to not wrestle Goldberg. Again, this man is a face. Are you sure that you would ever boo him? No, right? Because he's a face. This man has survived cancer. His wife is crying for him to not do this, but his honor is making him have to fight that. Don't boo this man. Please. We love him. God. Ned Stark's totally going to make it out of season one. What are you talking about? You know, it's great. He's a man of honor. God. I love how it came with thrones all of a sudden this episode. Well, we're going to shift from Game of Thrones to the sopranos because big veto comes out to the ring with his stugats. Stugats. He has a mic and some sticks. They're like, oh, it's stick ball sticks, like sure. What the fuck is stick ball? It's somewhere between baseball and cricket because isn't baseball stick ball? Isn't a baseball bat just a stick? Yeah. I think it's literally just like you have a stick and that's the difference because kids couldn't afford bats back up that you're like, but what is a bat if not a stick persevering? No one remembers WandaVisionally. That wasn't in WandaVision. Was it not? That was in the movie. No, that was the, that was the, that was the preface for WandaVision. That was not in WandaVision. That was in, um, was it end game, but that was a hundred percent. No, it's WandaVision. It's not in WandaVision. It is. It is. It is. It's not letting him go. I thought that was like the last thing that vision said to Wanda in the movie, we quoted that too much for it to be from WandaVision. It's from 2021, babe. So that could be. That was only 21. It's from WandaVision. Fuck. I really don't know for the movie. Why did we quote that so much? Did we watch WandaVision? Yeah. According to stupid leave all that anyway, stick ball. Sorry. I'll go match. But wrestling. Vito says he's heard the people talking, they're saying he's the best hardcore champion to ever live and commentary is like, whoa, that's a bit extreme. Yeah, name every W70 hardcore champion. There's like five of them, at least the good ones. Oh, you're a fan of hardcore name every champion. It's not hard. There's not that many. Don't Daint keep fandoms. Okay. He's the 10th champion, but it's it's not that much. Oh my God. That's a Norman Smiley is better. Yes. Absolutely. He's a better champion. But Vito offers a challenge to anyone in the back, which this is not a match. Weirdly. However, because of thunder, all hardcore matches have to start in the back. Right. So I'm like, oh, fuck. Is that the explanation for this? I guess because that does help a lot of explanation because Emily, who answers the open challenge? Jamie Son and the young dragon. No, it's just Jamie. It's just Jamie. Is it just Jamie Son? I bet it won't. At first. Because they come out later. I'm like, what the fuck? Jamie Son, baby. He gets beat down almost immediately by Vito. So Yang comes out, but then he gets walloped. So Cassie actually comes out and hits a springboard drop kick and then a spin kick. The young dragons finally get some offense. I'll hit top rope dives to Vito and then I'll hit a triple dive from the same turnbuckle onto Vito. I'm like, Jesus. So I think that could have looked cooler. I don't think it had the same visual impact that I wanted it to have. Well, it's because they all go for leg drops and Yang gets the legs of the situation. How the fuck do you do that? Yeah. It counts a pin for one of them. And Tony Shivani who has seen some wrestling in his day is like, Oh my God, we have a new champion. It's like, it's not a match. It's not how any of this works. Tony. Tony, I know you're checked out, but come on, dude. We have done what, a hundred and nine to fifteen hundred fifteen episodes of this podcast. Yeah. He knows how the fuck this shit works. If we have done a hundred fifteen episodes, he has been on at least a hundred of those. I think he's maybe missed one WCW one, but like, that's it. Yeah. He knows what the fuck is going on. He knows the rules. The man is still in 2024 working in the wrestling industry. He knows how wrestling works. It doesn't work like that. Yeah. So they're not the champion. It's veto still is. Yeah, no kidding. We didn't see Terry Funk backstage teaching John to the bowl and then just blind sides and with a chair and it's like, you have to watch your back. I mean, it's good teaching. I guess. I guess it's not, but like solidifies that Funk and John the bowl are working together and Funk is like training general. The perfect event then come into the production truck and they're a little cringy and they're like, Oh, it's another perfect production. They harass Woody, the, the, the, the local tech and he leaves. So then we see Shane Douglas talking to smooth about trying to leave. He's like, I don't want to face Scott Steiner. If you don't do that, you're going to get fired and I did appreciate a little thing. Douglas did in this promo and I mean this genuinely because he potentially isn't shot at the world title tonight. So he should want to be in this match, but he's like, no, I'm the franchise. I'm going to end up getting tons of title matches. Like, he actually believes that. Oh, okay. So I'm like, I like that little note that it's like, it's not someone going, fuck I could win. He's like, this seems too hard. I'm going to get, I'm going to get plenty of title matches. It's fine. I'm not going to be a little bit of characterization. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's just world building a logic. I'm like, holy shit. Okay. That is the one plus of taking yourself too seriously is that you create reasons for things. That's true. Oh, God. I can't imagine a Bret Hart versus Shane Douglas feud and say that somebody loves Brett, but I feel like that would be just so much talking and not so much wrestling. They would each just be cutting individual promos at each other. Depending on the year, if you bring up Ric Flair, your story's out the window. They're just going to cut promos on Flair for three hours. Oh, God. They're bigger better now, but there was a little while where I was like, no, fuck this guy. Oh, really? How many hours there was that much heat between them? Everybody always has feet with flair at some point. Why does if I hate Ric Flair? Because he's Ric Flair, but smooth has an idea for Shane Douglas to get out of the match and we'll get more of this in a second because the filthy animals form up to look for land storm and they have a line of like, well, he's Canadian, so he's probably stupid. So this should be easy. And then we see Shane Douglas feigning an injury to the cat and the cat's like, well, you have to wrestle, but then they decide on, all right, what a buff bag. Well, it takes your place. I mean, this is such a simple solution, but I'm surprised it worked. Buff is now going to face Scott Steiner. So they're like, all right. So I don't know. Cool. Buff. That'll be great. However, you did just give buff a potential title shot. Yeah. Douglas slips smooth. Some cash. And it's like, all right. Cool. Great. Will we see smooth next week? You think? No, this is the one and done for smooth. Then in the back tank Abbott pulls up a chair to watch three counts performance and he dances along to three counts new song until, oh, no, there's production issues. What? How? It's the perfect event. You know, I guess managing to figure out kind of an audio board, because Woody then finds tank Abbott, like, oh, it's them fucking with him. I'll show you where they are. Tank then drags Polumbo out of the truck. Sean Stasiak just kind of follows. Yeah. I'm not totally sure why he just followed. I mean, he takes his belt, but like, that's it. Yeah. You should have gone the other way. Run away, but like, no, I can do this without him now. Now, despite the fact that they have been dragged out of the production truck, the intermittent production issues are still going. They just, they fucked up so bad that it was just like, they ruined all of it. Tank Abbott then throws the tag champs in the ring and he's like, all right. This is now a title match because I said so. And it is. Oh, what? What? Okay. Yeah, but declaring a tag title match that he's not involved in is fine. Vito making an open challenge for the hardcore title. No, ref. I mean, Tony Shabani did call this out of like, since when is tank Abbott booking matches. I was going to say, well, Tony Shabani did call that a match. So no, no, no, no, he, he called out this, um, hypocrisy of like, why the, why are we listening to tank Abbott when he's booking matches? But yeah, it's now a tag team title match. It is three count. The duo here is chain homes and Shannon Moore versus the perfect event. And I'll just talk about it a little bit now. This matches heel versus heel and that really hits the crowd. It does. I think this is a bad match for other reasons. This match goes for a little bit, but like three count of heat, the perfect event don't. And the crowd just kind of like, they have a little something on hate on three count and then they just lose it. Yeah. But three count and slip out of press slams and hit delayed dives to the floor because they're like standing on the top rope waiting to dive. And the perfect event are just like hugging and huddling. It's like, yeah, why are they hugging? Yeah. Like, dude, they are balancing. Get the fuck over there, please. That was the weirdest thing. Like they were on the apron or not the apron. They were ringside, eight and embrace, not like a huddle, like let's strategize. They were hugging. Yeah. And very straight. A little bit. Yeah. Cause they probably lost their balance a little. Stasiak suddenly has a muscle flexor as three count hit a double neck breaker in the ring. Stasiak hits a gut wrench, sit out power bomb after he tags in. Helms gets worked over, but counters a power bomb and turns it into a tornado DDT. And he makes the tag to Dillygaff who hits a hot tag sequence. Dillygaff. Chuck Palumbo catches more out of the air and hits a fallaway slam. The tag champs go for some double team action, but more counters and hits a springboard top rope Frankensteiner and then a diving splash from helms. Palumbo breaks up the pin with a muscle flexor shop behind the refs back. You don't need to distract them. It's fine. And then the tag champs hit their double flapjack on helms as Shannon Moore just kind of watches him get pinned from the apron. Kind of weird there. The tag champs win an immediately chronic like the bell doesn't even ring. It's just like no. Chronic is here now. Chronic beat down the perfect event to their song playing this whole time and they hit the high time on Palumbo and Stasiak and say, Oh, okay, sure, three count then get back in the ring and helms like, Oh, no, play our music because we want to dance. So chronic here this and then go back to the ring to attack three count tank out it suddenly reappears and knocks out both Brian Adams and Brian Clark and then leaves with three count. But before they leave off Mike, he says hit the music. The music hits. He grabs the mic, hit the music. Sorry playing dude. This was a fucking mess. This was a nightmare of a match. This was overall a mess of all this. However, three cow keep looking good. Oh, I love three count and I'm sad that three count is part of this match that I deemed pretty bad. Yeah, like I love them and I want to continue to see them thrive and I'm happy that we're even like seeing them at all. I mean, in a Vince Russo era, we would never see these guys ever again, but I think this match is bad. I agree, but I think it's bad for a different reason than you think it is. I mean, I think mine has a lot of has a lot to do with the general heat and structure, but what is your I think that mine will probably build on that. I think this match is bad because of the booking, like maybe the similar of what you're saying, but what I'm saying is this should have been a 30 seconds wash match. This should have solidified tank with three count. I think that's the storyline they're going to go with and that's what's next for tank. This should have been 30 seconds. Tank destroys perfect demand backstage, knocks him out, drags them to the ring, throws them in the ring, says three count pin them, and then they're the champs. That should have solidified that core together and just been done with it. I think there's two ways you can do that without making three out the champs because I don't. That's clearly not what they want to do. I know, but that's what this should have been. I think the two ways you can do that is one, just don't make it a title match or two. You can do something where tank habit means well, but he like over does it where they have a title match and he kills them and throws them in the ring and it's like, well, they can't compete because you killed them. Okay. Yeah. So like you can't win the titles right now, despite the fact that you probably could because they're not clear to compete. Okay. I would like that too. Yeah. I think that's two ways you could do it. This was just the worst of all the worlds. This did not really make clear that tank is with three count or it did, but it didn't. It makes it that tank is with three count, not that three count is with tank. Yes. It makes it that tank is a fan boy, not that they are an allyship. They're not a team. Three count is not. Doesn't have any reason to be with tank. Why would they? Yeah. Like they need someone to like come threaten them and then he makes the say of like kind of a chronic, but the problem is it's still three of them against two of chronic. It was like, all right, they should be fine because the funny thing is when tank knocks out, I think it's Brian Adams, he's going to go for a double choke slam. The third member of chronic is they are about to break it up because there's three of them. Right. I have no idea how long this lasts. All I know is tank habit apparently was offered a chance to get like dancing or singing lessons and he goes, I'm not going to get better. It'll be funnier if I suck. I do kind of love that. Yeah. I mean, I like that. He's just going to be the tank habit redemption arc. No, I don't think so. This is going down the path of our truth. And I know this is a hot take. I do not like our truth. I don't think he's funny. I don't think he's talented. I don't think he's an enjoyable watch on TV. That's just my, that's just my opinion. I recognize that a lot of people love him. I'm talented. Maybe in ring. Maybe he is a good wrestler. I don't know for sure. I don't watch him because I don't find him compelling. I don't like the idea of a wrestler just to be being played off as like ditzy or stupid or just like, you know, the moron, like I don't think that's a good character. And this is starting to border on that for me of like, he's kind of like playing like the blonde girl, you know, like, I just love in sinking Backstreet Boys. And that's it. I'm so sad. Pamela Paul shock is not up next because it's a perfect. Oh my God, you're right. But I don't like that trope and I feel like tank is starting to encroach on that trope. Yeah. Unfortunately, a lot of the he's with the judgment day stuff. I was kind of getting Eugene thinks he's an evolution vibes. Yeah. Like our truth mental incompetence has me have a hard time rooting for him because I don't think him getting the upper hand means anything to the character. No, it doesn't. You're right. Like a character like our truth will never have like a come up in, you know, a redemption art or something. Well, we saw them win the tag titles at WrestleMania. Yeah. And it meant nothing to him like it's not like rewarding for the character. No, like that kind of a character is just like, I just want to hang out with my friends. Yeah. Wrestling is secondary. I really have him come out in a Confederate Generals outfit. No. Yep. When was that? 2011, baby. Oh my God. That is the pay-per-view before the pipe bomb. Oh my God. Technically, the pipe bomb comes after the remnants of that pay-per-view match because they do John Cena versus our truth in a tables match the night after. And that's when the pipe bomb happens. Jesus. And everyone kind of forgot about all that. Maybe for the best. Anyway, we're talking about W. Anyway, yeah, sorry. Take Gavin. Well, no. We're moving on from that. Okay. Who of a two-garrera is backstage looking for Lance Storm and is hit with a pipe out of nowhere? Oh, no. How did this happen? Kenyon's book signing is suddenly going well, but he's been offering free beer. Oh, is that what it was? Yeah. It was drink vouchers. Anybody over 21. Gotcha. No. I was not following that bit. Notably, all of these say earlier today, we couldn't have just done this all at once. No. And then we get a video package. Rest in peace, Jim Duggan. We hardly knew you. This really is giving final retirement match vibes for Jim Duggan. This is the promo package before the Goldberg Duggan match. This is, if you, in case you missed it, don't boo this man. Additionally, there's the embodiment of one of Emily and I's favorite movie or TV tropes, where it's the, you know what's great? Be it alive. Let's make plans for when I get back. Oh, man. Let's talk about Christmas. Yeah. When I get back from, from Afghanistan, we're going to get married and have all these kids. Yeah. It's, it's going to be great when that happens. I don't know what you're like go to for this is, but mine is the movie Pearl Harbor. I don't know what mine is because the Pearl Harbor one is two of my favorite tropes together, where it's that combined with love triangle solved by somebody dying. So no one has to make a hard decision. Yes. God, that's true. I don't know what my go to is. Unfortunately, the first movie that popped into my head is remember me. Coming soon to patreon conspiracy theory is the Jesse Ventura. So it's time for a funeral. It's Jim Duggan versus Bill Goldberg. Yeah, but it's time for a funeral. Oh, God. If Jim Duggan dies before this episode comes out, we're going to have to read before this moment. Oh my God. So Jim Duggan comes out with the two by four, like he does the cat comes out is like, no, you can't use that. I'm banning it, you know, like most matches. What a heel. How dare you. It's like, Oh, also no outside interference. What a heel. Goldberg comes out. They actually managed to find some more anti Goldberg signs this week and he does simply get booed or they audio sweet and better. Yeah, it's hard to say. They did find more anti Goldberg signs. I'm wondering if people from last week took the hint of like, Hey, this guy with the anti Goldberg signs, when getting there, let's all do anti Goldberg or did the cameras just do a better job sweeping the audience and like find the, the science to come back to. They go nose to nose immediately and then trade bunches until like Duggan gets to the upper hand. It's a bunch. He does. Yeah. Goldberg clotheslines Duggan when the ref pulls him away and then they go to the outside. Goldberg pushes Duggan to the ring post and throws him back in. Goldberg then hits punches to Duggan's kidney, but Duggan powers out of a rest hold and Goldberg smashes him in the corner. Duggan slams Goldberg and signals for the three point stance, but Goldberg is immediately up and spears Duggan apparently right in the kidneys. So okay. Okay. Yes. You're go on. I go the floor. Did he lose a kidney or does he have bad kidneys? I think he lost one. So is Goldberg spearing where a kidney once was and therefore does it hurt? Well, I ghost break. What? Ghost kidney? I was just having a hard time wrapping my head around the back of like, is he spearing an empty space and that hurts or is he spearing like an inflamed kidney? Like which one's worse? I don't. Well, the inflamed kidney would be more painful. Well, we should know he just does a spear. It's the same move. It's just a spear, but also we don't know which side he lost the kidney on. So is he aiming for the one good kidney or is he hitting the empty kidney? I can't. I can't. Oh, this celery is just empty kidneys. You burn more kidneys than you do when you eat them. Goldberg gets a jackhammer to the kidneys. Kidney. Kidney. The commentary is disgusted because he's setting up for it and he's like, someone needs to stop this. This is going too far. I'm like, what? He does the move. He always does. But to a lack of a kidney neck. He pins Jim Duggan and then he hits more kidney punches to really, to really make sure you boo him. Oh, yeah. If you haven't caught on that, you should be booing Goldberg at this point. Where is your heart? Goldberg then taunts Nash to the camera and this is to distract the fact that the reference clearly giving Jim Duggan some sort of capsule put in his mouth because he's just spilling a bunch of sauce. Yeah. All of a sudden too much marinara. Tony marinara. Yes. Duggan's bleeding from the mouth and then his stretcher it out. And we were ready because the either real or fake EMTs put the stretcher the wrong way because there was an incline on the stretcher and the way they were rolling him out, I'm like, he's going to be like head to face down. Yes. They flipped it, so we were fine. We were ready. But yeah, his wife comes out to sell this. Destroyed. This poor woman. I was going to ask is she better or worse than Sam and his wife, but she didn't take a bump. Oh, yeah. No. Laura is my MVP. It's Laurie. Maybe it's Laurie. Laurie is my MVP. Laurie Sandman. I was getting structured out. Some jobbers in the locker room were like distraught about this. Okay. This was a combination of people because it was Lash the Roo, three guys we didn't recognize and was it Jindrach and O'Hare? No, I forget who it was, but yeah, it was a motley crew. It was an odd mishmash of people. We like paused and looked at these guys and were like, am I, am I just having like face blindness? Do I not remember who the fuck these guys are? But then you with Lizzer Brain had no idea where they were either. So I felt a little bit more justified. Yeah. I was like, is that Mike Sanders? Looked it up. That is not Mike Sanders. Half and commercial, he's being loaded into an ambulance and Kevin Nash is upset. He's gone too far. Okay. Which brings us to Kevin Nash versus Mike Awesome, but I guess first, but it's actually reflected in that match. I thought it's on that whole match and segment. That was fucking bonkers. Like, did it, was it effective? I mean, yes, it was effective. Yeah. That was like a last ditch effort of like, if this doesn't work or screwed. And I think Goldberg kind of got the memo of, please stop hyping up the crowd, like a face. I agree. So there's like, there is that. It worked. Yeah. That's about all I could say for it. Yeah. It wasn't a good match. It was fine. I think it's really good to use a Jim Duggan, honestly. Yes, I agree. Was he just like hanging out backstage all these weeks? Yeah. I hope he was home. Remember when he found the television title and the trash and then it got vacated and never got a champion again? Remember when his whole thing was just cleaning toilets? I thought his whole thing was USA. Yeah. He was screaming USA into the toilets. So our next match is Mike Awesome versus Kevin Nash. In the mind of commentary, Mike Awesome has absolutely zero chance of winning this match. And they don't hide it. Nash has an early back suplex and they go to the corner. I was ready for that. I have two bullet points in this and I already said one of them. Nash hits his framed up elbow and stops the German suplex, but eats a clothesline in the corner and then a diving clothesline from Awesome. He hits a frog splash and then signals for the awesome bomb, which commentary is like, what's he going to go for? He's finisher. Guys, have you never watched the show? Do you not know what you're doing? Nash then counters, clotheslines awesome to the floor. They brawl around ringside and Mike Awesome grabs the steel chair. Back in the ring, Nash big boots into Awesome's face and pins him. And that's it. Yeah. The fuck? Very quick match. Yeah. What the hell are you doing with Mike Awesome? What the hell are you doing with Kevin Nash? Not having him lose. The man is so boring to watch because you know he's not going to lose. If spoilers, he doesn't get pinned in the main event. Okay. Well, but yeah, constantly we got to make him look strong, brother. Like why? He's strong. We know he's strong. But yeah, what the hell are you doing with Mike Awesome? He came in and was like, could have been a big deal and then he had to be a heavy. And Emily, I'm going to say a phrase to you that I know kicks in in the next three weeks. So next week, potentially, I'm pretty sure he has it at bash the beach. Mike Awesome is going to get a gimmick that is the fat chick thriller. What? Yep. You have to look forward to backstage. Yeah, Ray Mysterio has been attacked. Yeah. Ray Mysterio is attacked. I did note here. I'm like, okay. No, they're treating this like a mystery. Yes, they are. Because in my brain, like, Oh, it's like a storm and it's like, Oh, no, like we're hiding who was attacking them. Yes. But Tigris comes to find Ray and like come to his aid after he gets hurt. And she calls him Poppy. There is a mommy joke in here somewhere. Angie. Well, no, Dom has his mommy and his Poppy. Oh, yeah. I guess true. Dom is married and had his mommy. I guess Angie's okay with this. I guess. Back for commercial. Conan is also hit from behind in catering. Yeah. So basically all of the filthy animals are done for besides disco. Does it matter? Is he a filthy animal? Well, he doesn't get taken out because he has a thing later, but is he a filthy animal? How filthy is he? He's as much of a filthy animal as hooven to it is really. And the fact that hooven to it got taken out is kind of shocking. Let's go to our next qualifying match for the made of head. It's buffed Bagwell versus Scott Steiner, a match we've, I think we've seen a good handful of times and I'm always, that's all right. Yeah. And spoilers on this match. Yeah, that's all right. Yeah, it was, it was fine. Like you kind of forget that these two were paired up and had all his history, not that long ago. Apparently they do not like each other. Shocking. That said, spot of the fucking year. Oh, yeah. But Bagwell does his buff taunt in response. Steiner doesn't give him the finger. Oh, yeah. So simple, the perfect, the comedic timing on it just does the taunts, a breath. Fuck you. Just get fucked. Just, just get fucked. Oh, so good. It was so perfect. And you know, I'm not the biggest Scott Steiner fan, but that was so. Yeah, Steiner beats down buff and hits his flexing elbow drop. Buff vaults over in the corner and hits a spinning neckbreaker. Then he hits a Vader bomb in the corner, but, but Scott runs buff back first in the corner and chokes him while he's upside down. Steiner hits a T-bone suplex and tries for a Steiner recliner, which notably is banned because commentary is even like, oh, he needs to watch out for that move. No, he doesn't. No. That should be good because you need to win by DQ and then you go to the finals. Right. I think we've all forgotten. I don't think anybody actually watches Thunder. They talked about it on Nitro last week in production, I mean. Buff slips out of the standard recliner attempt and hits a double-armed DDT and then a blockbuster only gets it to them. Steiner then suddenly hits his spinning belly to belly for the win. Like, oh, I guess you're using that now. Kind of weird. I know this match was so underwhelming, I didn't really pay any attention to the finishers that were utilized. It was just like, can we just be done? This match Steiner and Buff shake hands do a little hug, Shane Douglas slips into attack buff, but Steiner quickly chases him off after like a move or two. This kind of felt like an unintentionally or maybe intentionally buried buff. Yeah, you mentioned this like immediately after watching the match, say more about it. It just seemed like it was a message of, no, he's not on that level. What do you mean? That like, he is mid-card. He's not even on the upper echelon anymore. He's like, he hit his finisher, Steiner kicked out, and then hit like a C-tier Scott Steiner move and pinned him. Yeah. And then he gets attacked and the guy who beat him has to come save him. Yeah. And I don't know if it was intentional, but it just made him look a little bush league and not like, I think they were maybe trying to go like, oh, it's a competitive match-up, but it just made buff seem kind of shit. Yeah. Which he is, but. He is. I think this did buff absolutely no favors. Oh, no. It almost seemed like they were sabotaging him because additionally, they do their entrances and it's like, buff does his, eh, Scott Steiner comes out and it's a way bigger star. Yeah. It's way more of a reaction. Yeah. It's like, no, you need to do this with like buff facing a heel. Yeah. So like, build him up a little bit more, but this was like a last-minute match, whatever. Yeah. I haven't gotten the Goldberg heel shit, but like have him hold his own with Goldberg who's a killer right now. Like, that's how you kind of get him going, especially if you go, yeah, we're new Shane Douglas versus Goldberg. Douglas is like, I don't want to fucking do that. Yeah. It all still tracks if you do this with Goldberg instead. Yeah. However, how else are you going to kill Jim Duggan? Oh, we have to do that. We have to do the Jim Duggan thing, obviously, honestly, I think that the Jim Duggan Goldberg matches more effective than this match. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I got this one. That being said, though, can we acknowledge that you said the word killer and you did not make a relic joke? I'm very proud of you. He's talking to Simon. But you would have, you would have found a way. I'm proud of you. Let's go backstage. It's Pamela Paul shop. Hell yeah. Pamela Pumpkins. She's here with Jeff Jarrett. Oh my God. It's almost her time of year. Wow. Jeff Jarrett, you could not even be involved and lose the title. That's so wild. Let's hear you blonde slap nut. For some reason, the slap nut singular made it even funnier. It's not meant to be funny, but every time he says slap nut, it's funny. Jarrett says, "He'll walk out champion tonight," and then, "Yeah, I know you will," tells Hogan to get out of his walker and come to bash the beach. He'll be there, so will you, for the title match. Backstage, Daphne sees Miss Hancock leave David Flair's dressing room. Miss Hancock comes out to the ring. And says, "She's a bad girl trapped in a good girl's body." So can we think about the logistics of this real quick? Sure. So Stacey just left David's dressing room in a bit of a flushed hurry and just comes straight to the ring. So you can kind of theorize that Stacey and David were just boinkin' in the dressing room. She came out and did a victory speech, essentially. She did the female speech version of "I Just Had Sex," what a baller move. That is such a power move from her. I'm actually very impressed if that is what happened. That's pretty sick. Oh, so I said Space Mountain, but I actually have a different name for David Flair's sex penis, whatever. Does sex penis, as opposed to his wife, is recreational penis? No, I'm saying sex, calipereness, whatever. Sex, okay. Because it's never been clear on what Space Mountain actually is with Rick Flair. Good point. Good point. David's the barnstormer. Which one's the barnstormer? The really shitty children's ride that used to in town or knew its new fantasy land. The one that's not nearly as exciting and you're underwhelmed when you ride it. Nick's Disney adult is kind of peeking out. Yeah, in case you didn't know, Nick's a little bit of a Disney adult. I used to be friends with Goofy. And Chewbacca. I don't know that we said that on the podcast. No, you never have. You guys were besties. Yeah, it's great. For a hot minute. Anyway, so anyway, Stacey comes out to the ring and she just has a whole speech about, it's so hard to be a bad girl, like Stacey. This is, I'm going to get naked. Like, I just had sex and it's just so great being me, but it's so hard being in these clothes. Like, that was the vibe. Nobody better clip that purpose. At least to you. Call about. Call about. Daphne comes out in the two cat fight. They trade slabs, go back to cat fighting. Somehow Daphne spears Miss Hancock and this results in Miss Hancock getting up and like pulling out some of Daphne's hair. Do you think what? Yeah, just like grabs a round of hair and then I'm like, oh, that's it. Oh, wait in her mind. Daphne has a mic and she's just going to ruin Stacey's life and challenges Miss Hancock to a match at Bash at the beach and she's going to send Stacey back to the hooters they found her in. They didn't find her in a hooters, did they? Was she a hooters girl? I don't know. I thought she was a Raven's cheerleader. She was, but there used to be a hooters in the inner harbor. You know, that's a good point. Oh my God. Can you imagine if they just closed that hooters? What if Stacey Keeler worked at that hooters? It's not out of the realm of possibility. I mean, honestly, a lot of women in wrestling have worked in hooters at one point. Weird. I mean, I guess, you know, if you got to flaunt it. That's true. I never even thought about the fact that Stacey was a Raven's cheerleader and may have worked at that hooters. Yeah. And it just closed down. What do you want to do? You weren't going to go. And maybe. So we're going to answer to this in a little bit, but yeah, we've seen them have a match for Bash at the beach. We're doing good at building up that card backstage. The filthy animals are all beat up besides for disco and he's like, I'm fine. So I have a plan. Earlier today, Canyon's book signing is interrupted by Booker T, who attacks him, slams him through a table and hits him with the brick filled book. More like, brick or tea. Stop. So yeah, I'm guessing these two are going to face each other at Bash at the beach as well. If that's not already official. Yeah, because I mean, he's not going to, Canyon's not going to face DDP. So I mean, he's got to do something that said that probably may be a pretty good match. That will be. What's the reasoning though? Is it just like, okay, my, my question is, what is the reasoning behind Booker T attacking Canyon just now? It's just Booker came out last week and hit Canyon for his DDP bullshit because that's when he was suddenly no longer G.I. Bro. Oh, yeah. Wow. I forget. And then Canyon hit Booker with the brick book. The brick book. Okay. Whatever. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds like a match set up. It's yeah, that could be good. Oh, look. I'm going to fucking take it, man. Don't question shit. Pamela Paul shock with Miss Hancock, Pamela is going to talk shit of like, wow, you get your ass kicked out there. What is this gimmick on her? I don't know, but I don't like it. Yeah. It's like the Ditzy bitch. She also was reading a cue cards real hard. Like Pamela did not even attempt to memorize what she was trying to say, but it was, it was very bitchy. It had a very bitchy undertone. She does it later with Conan too. I'm like, well, yeah. Well, Miss Hancock agrees to the bash of the beach match, but only if it's an evening gown match. Not just an evening gown match. Oh, sorry. Yes. A wedding dress match. Yes. I think my brain just autocorrected. But Miss Hancock trashes Daphne's dress and says hers will be much more sexier. Yes. And those are the words sexier, much more sexier. Many, much sexy. Pamela. I can't wait. I can't tell if Pamela is trying to, like, be Stacy's friend or undercut her. We didn't get the disco inferno coming out to the ring with a mic and a referee. Disco calls out Lance Storm, and, uh, it's sort of like just hitting a super kick and it's top rope back elbow. Lance Storm counters a disco move, and then it's a drop kick and a suplex, but it gets crushed going up to the top rope. Disco hits a running neckbreaker and a Cobra clutch Russian leg sweep. They seem to fuck up a weird sequence, so immediately just like go back to it. I didn't even know what the sequence was because it wasn't that notable. I'm like, yeah. You went back for that. Okay. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. I was having a hard time following it as well. The storm dodges, disco's dancing elbow and hits a hurricane Rana storm and hits a cartwheel kind of backhand spring clothesline and then a Northern light suplex. Disco tries for the last dance, but storm counters and rolls through into a single leg Boston crab. I fucking love that move. Yeah. You got very excited for that move. Disco submits for the win. The storm is then almost immediately beat down by the filthy animals. So Billy Kidman then makes the save with the steel pipe. Implying he was the one who hit everybody tonight. He was the one behind the cart and he's back baby and better than ever. Yeah. I was doing the math at one point. I'm like, who can it be? Oh, Kidman. Yeah. What's he thought of? Oh, yeah. It's him. Yeah. He's wearing a new outfit though that I fucking hate. Oh, yeah. He did get a little bit of a haircut, which not great. So, you know, his standard outfit is the white tank top and the long shorts is actually essential. I think he's been skipping the tank top lately. He's just been doing like the black shorts, but now he came out and Jim shorts like white Jim shorts. Oh my God. White Jim shorts. It looked terrible. Oh my God. So baggy. So frumpy. Mm-hmm. Not my Billy. Yeah. I think my brain just didn't suspect Billy Kidman at first because I'm like, dude, let's storm bring someone over with him to be his partner and I'm like, oh no, it's just somebody else feuding with the filthy animals. No. That would have been a good guess though. Storm and Kidman shake hands confirming like, yes, we are both faces now. This is fine. What on the same page? Hello. Yes. I am face. That's it. I am very much fine with these two teaming up for a little bit. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. This is a weird debut for Lance Storm thus far though because they have this problem constantly with disco inferno where he's a capable hand. They have him wrestle longer matches, but they also portray him as a joke. Right. So if you can't beat disco in like two minutes, wow, you must suck. Yeah, exactly. And then he wins and is immediately beat down and his debut win is overshadowed by Billy Kidman kind of coming back after like a week off. Right. Again, weird debut for Lance Storm. I feel like the, I had this problem with Lance Storm in WWE as well. Like I didn't know what to make of him because they didn't really know how to book him. He was just kind of like standard good technical wrestler. He never really had a personality to me in WWE and that's like why I had a hard time connecting to him. I can acknowledge he was good. He's very much like Dean Milenko to me where he doesn't have much of a personality to like cling on to, but he's fucking good. I will say without any spoilers, Lance Storm is a talking head on the bash of the beach. Oh god. No, he's the voice of like the audience and reason of just like, what the fuck? Oh, okay. Oh my god. I was fucking excited to watch that episode, but I mean, he had a character. He was serious. That's not a character. Emily, we will not tolerate any off beach shenanigans on this podcast. Okay, see, but that's different though because that makes me think of ivory in, um, right to censor. Yeah. But take on any off beach shenanigans. That's, that's better. That's a better way to do a serious character. Lance and Dean are just. You were like quoting Lance Storm saying, I know you are, but Lance and Dean are still like the very like, no, but I'm comparing them because they're very similar style. No, but still bury my boy like, I'm not trying to bury if I'm burying. I'm very sorry. They're very known on sense. They're very just like, let me get in, do my job, do my job well and get out. Like, don't give me this fluff, faff, whatever. That's why I feel like that's why you like those wrestlers and I am not as taken by them. Because I like the fluff and faff. You like the good technical wrestling. Oh, you like faff? I do. Explaining this next segment. No. Go ahead. Do it. Make the, yeah, you like the faff, Emily, walk us through Dale Torbor heading to the base from the building. So Dale Torbor goes to meet meet up with Vampiro finally answering that call that Vampiro placed earlier. They go to the basement, which is really just an unused wing of backstage. Like, this is just like a part of backstage that they were using. It's just dark. Yeah. It's storage. Yeah. There's random trust somewhere. I don't know. Unfortunately, the only note I have for this is what the fuck is this? You're so helpful. Emily is really started, um, locking into I take detailed notes so she doesn't have to. Sorry. I know the bending. Vampiro jumps off a random landing down here and attacks Torbor. Vampiro tries to hang Torbor is they just generally both of the area. And this is right. He was probably wearing him earlier too, but Dale Torbor is wearing jeans with leather assless chaps over them. Yes. Not a great look. It, uh, assless chaps are hard to pull off, man. They brawl into some barrels and more nothing brawling as Vampiro ducks a shovel shot. Vampiro's spin kicks Torbor and throws him around. And then Vampiro kicks Dale into a coffin, which is randomly here. Why is there a coffin backstage? All of a sudden someone in a hood and a sting mask knocks out of Vampiro and then puts the sting mask on Vampiro's face. We do not pan up. So who are your theories? Do you know who it is? It's obviously Christopher Daniels. It's spooky mystery. I can't feel your answer for everything. It's a spooky mystery. It's obviously Christopher Daniels. Sorry. Maybe it's Jake the Snake. Maybe always fucking. He thinks it's crazy. Well, commentary is like, oh, I can't, no, it, it could, just say sting, just say it's going to be fucking sting. But we thought we never see him again. Like he's not dead. We would know he was dead, guys. Yeah. So commentary is convinced that it's sting even though this man is about a foot shorter than sting. Oh, I think it's going to be sting. I think this didn't bring sting in for this. Oh, really? I thought they were pulling like a, like a Russo sort of. Well, the funny thing is initially. Fake sting sort of thing. It's like, oh, it's probably Asia. And then commentary makes fun of Mark Madden for going, yeah, it's Asia. Yeah. So I guess not. Logically, you might as the sting mask portion, but like, kind of makes sense to me, Asia. But yeah, I feel like it's, it's just stings in the back. Yeah, you're probably right. I don't. I mean, the body devil is pretty bad if this is meant to be sting better or worse than the stunt man. Worse. Because the stunt man was at least convincing in body shape. I'm not trying to say the step man was at least on fire. No, no, I'm saying this fake sting is about a foot shorter and about 45 pounds heavier. Well, I think you're supposed to see him for all of four seconds. But you saw enough? You know, it's Ralph's. Oh my God. Spooky Ralph is. Oh my God. Emily, it's not spookier. I would die. That would be amazing. I've started, I've started to like dangle that in front of you. It's just not on the table. That would be so good. Spooky Ralph is. Oh, my God. Emily, it's not spookier. I would die. That would be amazing. I've started, I've started to like dangle that in front of you. You're so good. Spooky Ralph is. Stop. We then get Pamela Paul shock here with the filthy animals. Wow. You guys really fucking suck tonight. That's so embarrassing. Okay. Mrs. Murder. She wrote. I figured it out. I think Billy Kiddin was attacking you guys. Got it. Good job. Yeah. I'm so proud of the murder. She wrote it. It's like, yeah, no kidding. Thanks, Nancy Drew. Yeah. Conan calls her stupid and then challenges storming kid into a tag match on thunder. Maybe when I'm picking in, I'll call you in and be like, hey, come watch this. Yeah. We're pitching matches for thunder now. Apparently. We're booking thunder cards. All right. But that brings us to our main event. Whoa. Emily, I'll ask you, do you want to talk about this now or do you want to talk about this when we see him again that we discovered Michael buffer is in the movie Dumbo. Oh. Oh. Do you want to do it now or do you want to do it at bash the beach or we see him again. I think we need to do it now because it's so fresh. Okay. You have the floor. This was the most random text that Nick has ever sent me. So the live action quote unquote remake of Dumbo that came out a couple of years ago. We didn't see it. We didn't watch it. Who cares? No. No one should have seen that movie. Why do they, why do they make it randomly out of nowhere. Nick sends me a clip from this movie while I'm sitting at work and so I watch it. This Michael buffer in Dumbo doing a full ring introduction of the fucking elephant. Full ending with ladies and gentlemen, let's get ready for Dumbo. So fucking stupid. Oh my God. What was the budget for that movie? Clearly not that much because they couldn't say rumble. They had to change it. How did we not know that Michael buffer was in Dumbo? That's a credit to a pitch meeting because that's how I found it. Oh, there you go. They put in like the little bit of that and they went, what the fuck is this? I need to find this clip. Lord knows you weren't just looking up videos from Dumbo 2019. No, it's sort of a Beetlejuice and weird Tim Burton shit. Did Tim Burton do that Dumbo? Yeah. Oh God. Which somehow that makes that even weirder. It does. Tim Burton hired Michael buffer. That's a mad libs bullshit right there. It is. That is mad libs. Oh yeah. W.W. Nitro main event, it's Jeff Jarrett versus Goldberg versus Kevin Nash versus Scott Steiner for the W.S. W.T. Let's go. I'm sure this match will be very, very long and have a lot of in-ring intrigue. Yeah. Before Nash even comes out, we see that Goldberg is taken out. Kevin Nash. Cool. Kevin, I'm not working two matches. That's what do you fucking mark, dude? Two matches. He'll be in the ring for a total of five minutes. Jeff Jarrett attacks Steiner from behind and stomps him in the ring until we get a Steiner press slam. Steiner pulls Jeff Jarrett into a trio well and stomps him. And the Steiner hits a tilt-a-roll slam and Goldberg finally comes out to the ring and press power slam Steiner. I love that move. Yeah. That seems like a move that you would love. Goldberg signals for the spear, but Steiner dodges and hits a spinning belly to belly, but Jeff Jarrett breaks the pin up. Steiner hits a tiger bomb on Jared, but the numbers game gets to him shortly. Goldberg locks an R-bar on Steiner as Jeff Jarrett stomps Steiner, and I have to ask the question there. What if Scott Steiner tapped out? There's very clearly a plan of Jeff Jarrett's going to retain here, and you locked in a submission. You should not do that. No, that's true. That's also a spot I want to see in wrestling where someone like loses on purpose to fuck up a team's chemistry. The problem is that it doesn't apply someone's losing on purpose on top of losing on purpose. Yeah, that's true. Jeff Jarrett keeps posing for the crowd, and suddenly Mike Awesome comes out. He steals the U.S. title from Madeja as Steiner starts to come back and power bombs, Jeff Jarrett. Steiner hits a power slam on Jared, but Steiner is pulled out of the ring by Awesome and is hit with the U.S. title. Kevin Nash then runs out awkwardly past Mike Awesome here, and just starts beating down Jarrett. Like, nope, he's fine. Now she hits a choke slam and then power bombs awesome, and when Kevin Nash power bombs Mike Awesome. Scott Hudson said some shit, they made me want to fight Scott Hudson. Oh, no. This should be a disqualification. Oh, shouldn't. One, it's a fatal four way, so there's no DQ. Two, what happened to the fucking Lacks rules? W.S. W.S. Scott. Three, Mike Awesome is actually not hit Kevin Nash, so it wouldn't be a DQ. Oh, my God. Four, Kevin's doing fucking fine on top of all that, so even your little, oh, he needs help. No, he doesn't. You fucker. Five, fuck you. Six, learn how to do your fucking job. Seven, he just, Mike Awesome just hit Scott Siner with a fucking title belt, which is an outside weapon. That's the weapon shot. That's your DQ right there. But again, it's still a fatal four way, so it's no DQ. Correct. Because who wins the title then? That's why you can't do a DQ in a multi-man match. Kevin staffs a power bomb to Goldberg, so Nash tries to power bomb Jarrett. Goldberg hits a big sidekick and Jeff Jarrett pins Nash off that. Kind of weird. Goldberg celebrates as the pin happens, so yeah, he's fine not winning the title. Yeah. Weird that the sidekick got it. Like, hit him with a spear. Like, what are you doing? Yeah, I'm kind of confused why they didn't do the spear as the finisher. Spearman the kidneys. What are you doing, Goldberg? This man has two kidneys. Double E is effective. Double the target. Double the goals. Double the fun. Double the pleasure. Goldberg then has a bit of the Scott Hall contract, because he pulls out of his trunks and taunts Nash with it as we go off the air. What a fucking mess of an ending. It happened so fast, too. Yeah. Because Nash just jogs out to the ring, past the weird, awesome Steiner B down happening, and then just like, oh, you know, he's fine. He got taken out? No, he didn't. No, he didn't. You're crazy. Even if he did. Fuck you, who cares? No, that was Kevin Nash kissing Jeff Jarrett, that wasn't anything. You're crazy. Yeah, this is a pretty wild ending to a pretty forgettable show altogether. Yeah, it feels like they're stalling. It does. They probably are, because again, who's Jeff Jarrett facing the pay-per-view? Hogan. Yeah, who's not fucking here? Hogan. Yeah. He was not here next week? Yeah, Jeff Jarrett has nothing to do other than just sit in the back and be forgotten. Oh, don't worry. That was something next week. Oh, God. For the thumbnail for next week, I'm like, oh, why is Jeff Jarrett with three large Viking-looking opera singers? Oh, God. But that's next week. Emily, thoughts on this week? It was honestly, we had more fun talking about it than the show deserved. Yeah, I think that's fair. Yeah, this is, like, again, it's fine, I mean, like, I'll give a credit in that, like, it had set up and pay off in terms of this show, but almost because of that, it felt self-contained. It did. Like, it felt like this was like a house show. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. Like, you could have watched this episode with no context of what else is going on and be fine. In middle, very little actual story progression. Yeah. Weirdly, I think the most story progression probably comes from Ms. Hancock and Daphne. Yeah, and maybe Booker T and Canyon? Even then. It's minimal. I mean, yeah, we're slowly building matches that I'm like, okay, these have some potential. Oh, yeah. And we will probably have a full card before we even get too much of the beach, which is rare. Now I'd say with Goldberg and Nash on the pay-per-view, Aubrey, you see a stun gun. Please don't. I mean, it's for Scott Hall's contract, Emily. And there is a dark side of the ring about it, but I feel like you would have alluded to the fact that that's not the end of the stun gun. You would know, and you would say something. You're bad at keeping secrets too, okay? I continue to wonder how much Vince Russo's plans they're allowed to stray away from. Like, are they under the directive of like, okay, you can't go too far, or is it like, we don't know when he's coming back. So you have free rein, because if it's the biggest thing that's really happened that differs from the Russo time is he's back to being Booker T, like that's still the biggest thing. Yeah, I guess so. Because this would have been the week to pivot to like, I don't know, Goldberg's the face again, like, whatever, but I guess maybe we'll see what happens after the pay-per-view because that's kind of when resets and everything happens. Exactly. Yeah. We're in a holding pattern. So nothing's going to change for the next couple of weeks. We have two weeks? No. No more episode. Which is a great pitch for that episode. Nothing's going to happen. Well, I mean, we made something out of this. Come on. Well, I guess let's get something out of this with best bit, worst bit, and MVP. Emily, what is your best bit? We have to have the same one. I think it's too isolated. It's a bit, babe. But it's not like the bit worth watching the show for. Oh, no. And that's not always what the best bit is. Yeah. Yeah. What's your bit? It's, it's Steiner flipping off buff. Yeah. That is, there's a great bit. It popped. It gave me something to live for. It's not worth like watching the whole episode for, but it was something. I did love that, but I'm going to give my best bit to something that was actually effective. And I'm going to give it to Jim Duggan versus Goldberg. I thought that was, I don't agree with the direction you're taking, but if that's the direction you're taking, you did a good job on it. I think my best bit is more like, if you are trapped in a room forced to watch this show, you at least have this to look forward to. Emily, what is your worst bit? Tank Abbott. Just, you still. Still. Tank Abbott's new storyline and the direction that they're taking him. I don't like it. I don't like Tank Abbott period, but this is not how I want him to be utilized. I actually think I'm going to pass on a worst bit this one. Really? It really grabs me as like, terribly offensive. Closet Mini is the three count and perfect event match and the post of that, but the problem is, my MVP is three count. Oh, really? I thought they did great with what they had. And I'm like, so I can't give that worst bit because I think they were the best thing on the show. Okay. I do like tend to forget that worst bit is technically optional. Yeah. No, I gave my MVP for the same reason that you gave your best bit. I gave it to Jim Duggan. He succeeded in conveying the message that needed to be conveyed. Yeah. There's very few people you could put in there to get Goldberg booed and yeah, he was one of them. And he did it well. That's going to do it for a review of the June 26th, 2000 W70 Monday Nitro. Next up, we're in July, July 3rd, Nitro. 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Yeah. And I've been just kind of talking about TV shows that I'm watching over there too. Oh, but that's going to do it for this episode of the buzz disease podcast, Emily, any closing thoughts. After this, we enter our podcast anniversary month to three episodes back over. Yeah, this is going to be coming up on what year five of the podcast? Oh, the start of year five after this. The start of year five. Yeah. That's great. The four year anniversary. That's crazy. But Emily, we're so close to the bash of the beach and we got one more episode. But until that episode, I'm Nick and thanks for listening to the Buzz disease podcast. Bye. Bye. in the next one.