[ Music ] Moving to oneness. [ Music ] Nourishing curiosity. [ Music ] Embracing differences. [ Music ] Becoming one. [ Music ] Trees around the world board so much wisdom have experienced so much. And they're eager to share it with you, with us, and especially they share a lot of wisdom with my guest today. So stay tuned to the Moving to Oneness podcast. Hello, everyone. I'm Aileen Elke. And from Ireland, I have a wonderful woman with me that really loves to touch nature, to heal people, and just oozes into the landscape. [ Laughs ] But you see it, everyone, already, if you're listening on the podcast, do head over to the video. Because she just is one with the landscape. So everyone, please welcome with me Julia Duff from Ireland. [ Laughs ] Hello, Julia. How are you? I'm so happy you hear, and it's such a pleasure to have someone who also is so strongly connected to trees. And when I say connected to these, not just feel them, but loves them, emerges into them, or lets them be part of your body. [ Laughs ] So thank you for being my guest today and sharing your wisdom and your experiences with the listeners. Hello. Lovely to be here. Thank you so much, Michael, for inviting me. Yeah, you have so much life experiences. Doesn't matter if you were a nurse, right, and helping humanity, and you were a health educator, or you're healing the landscape, and you're so curious about nature. So what brought you, or what drove you, or what caused you to be, in a way so strongly determined to support humanity and nature? Mm. I think I've always felt very much at one with it, and when I've seen things that are not going well, this eased or suffering, I suppose, I've always felt that if I have anything, and I'd like to develop more and more tools to be able to respond, I felt that it -- I always felt, I think, that it was kind of what one did when one was on Earth. We do that for one another. We look out for one another, and just like your children, or whether they be plants or animals or whatever, that you're responsible for trying to keep healthy and well around you, planet. So you were at this way already as a young child, so you went out and played in the woods, or did it come as teenager? When did you really notice you cannot live without it? Well, it's funny. My parents' first house, we lived in until I was about just over three, and I remember it was in a city, and we had a little cedar hedge around the garden, and I remember I would always -- even when I was crawling, I would crawl in there and just sit. I just needed to sit in the cedar hedge that was my home, just communing and being happy and et cetera, and interestingly enough, right now, where I go daily for my commune, is under a cedar tree, and I only really realized that she probably gave the cedar hedge, or it's that continuation. Just the other day, because I have two main trees. This one I called Grandmother Beef. She's in my Nature Council. This one behind me, and that's over a river which I pass to go to her, to Mamazara, which is the one who gives me council, and she's a big, big, very old cedar tree. So that was from a young age, and then when we moved, actually, we were surrounded by bushes, because all of it had been undeveloped land, so I used to spend all day in the bushes with friends or alone, whatever, and in those days, nobody worried. You know, if you were a five-year-old little girl by yourself, it was fine, did you just be lost in the bushes? You could be called for lunch, and then back in it called for supper. And fortunately, it was a time of freedom. Yeah, you know, I live here in the countryside in Germany, and children do roam around. But not as much as I can remember when we were little also. I had a forest very close, and we would spend, I don't know, half of a day in there building things, lugging things into the woods, out to the woods, also from small age, and always living on the street. And then even though I ended up in large metropolitan cities like New York, I ended up again in the somewhere in nature, in the Alps, right, in Switzerland. But even there, then I was always drawn into the woods, going off the pathways and just finding it. I never thought about it, oh, I'm really connected to the trees at the time, or in nature, but I couldn't live without it. I think they called me also Robin Hood at that time. It's like a nickname, the only nickname I ever had. But just to feel it. Oh, if I think about it, also when I was tiny, I always ran off the path into the site because I love, I don't know, the adventure of going over things, and under, and around, where if you walk on a path, it's so straight and it's too bad. Sometimes I will see too many parents. If they do go with their children into the woods, the children can't wander off and just roam as the parents, you know, go along. Yeah, and that love for a wildness. You repeat it throughout your life. You're really curious how many, you went to many countries, right? I do know about Africa to get to know landscapes even more. Different micro-climates? Yeah, I decided actually when I was about 19, that I just needed to be raw with life. I didn't want any buffers. I didn't want any protectors. I didn't want any defenses. I just wanted to throw myself in life. And if it was not a safe and beautiful and loving place, I didn't want to be on the planet either. So anyway, so if I didn't survive, that was okay. But I needed to go. So at the age of 19, poor parents, I set off one morning. I told them that I suddenly had this idea. I had to go hopping freight trains around Canada. I wanted to see Canada, the bush, the wilderness, where no roads are, which is the trains go through. And I'd ride the boxcars. And they were, what? And when you go in, who you going with? I said, I'm not going with anybody. I don't know when I'm going. But I will receive the message and then I'll just go. So I need to tell you now because it could happen any day. And about a week later, I was in a party with friends. And I suddenly felt I need to leave first and tomorrow morning. And I looked at buses to just get me out of the city. And there was one at about eight in the morning. So I just called home and said, well, I'm going to come home soon. But I'll be gone by about seven in the morning because I'm going to, I'm going to off on this adventure. I don't know how long I'll be, but I, you know, et cetera. So, so actually my mother was very sweet. So I'll drive you to the bus station, dear, which she did. And so that was the beginning of a fantastic adventure of just being with nature, with everything, with, with very little, like, they said, well, you don't have any money. I said, no, I'm going to go earn money. I decided I'd pick some cherries and then I was going to the Okanagan. I'd pick fruit. And then somehow I would learn how to hop freight trains. I didn't know how. So that really brought me to many wild places. And soon after that, I took an outward bound course. I don't know if you're familiar with it in, in, in Germany so much, there were German outward bound courses, actually, but it was, it was a school that it's around the world. And it was very much about people throwing themselves just or putting themselves right into nature and deep nature and confronting your weaknesses. So it involved, always involved rock climbing because, you know, some people are scared of heights, but also when you get up, you know, it's a lot of trust. You have to trust that the rope will hold you and, and repelling down. And, and then with whitewater kayaking. And that was always part of the courses. And then the, I worked in the wilderness school in Northern Ontario. So we would go off into the wilderness for often we, they were uncharted areas because this was, this really was a wilderness. Nobody'd been in it for, nobody'd been exploring in it for a long time. Probably, in fact, I did, we did a group of women. We were wild river women, five, six of us. Paddled from Lake Superior into, into the bottom of the Hudson Bay, James Bay. Going along an old whitewater trade for a trading river that they'd done long ago. But, and, and on my 21st birthday, I spent on a three day fast in the wilderness and the mountains by myself with just a piece of plastic to make it some kind of shelter. No food. I was fasting a cup for water and, and, and I would write on birch bark. I had pencil and I would just, and I had a journal. I had, I did have a journal that time as well. So it was just three days of being able to be completely, completely immersed in wild nature, which was just amazing. And then after that, I used to do a lot of solos in between courses. I'd have to go off by myself for three days and fast, just be in the wilderness. No, I'm curious. It's like a vision quest. Yeah, I can feel the deep connection. So share what were the visions, like when you go in fast and you're really able to dissolve, right? You're, you're really part of everything around you. Share that a little bit so people can understand what was going on within you and what they can expect if they become curious to try it for themselves. Because you're so wise in my eyes. You're so brilliant of brightness and knowledge. So yeah, I would love that you share it with the world. You know, it's probably going to happen the way you construct it in your subconscious or, you know, according to what's in your consciousness. For me, I was in love with nature and I knew it was going to be beautiful and sometimes I'd hear wild animals. We were in bear country and, but I wasn't, I had fear was nowhere, nowhere and nowhere. I had no time for fear because I just wanted to experience and explore and experiment and, and meet all my brothers and sisters and engage in life with them. So it was, it was really beautiful. I do remember on one of my solos on the first day and often because it was often in the summertime and if it was hot then I wouldn't wear clothes. So I would just roam and, and because it, when you're like that and especially if it's, you know, in the summer, I would just find that I would start to nap and wake up and nap and wake up. Sometimes I'd walk around in the middle of the night and then I come back and sleep for a little bit. I'd make a little shelter that I'd maybe get up and I wasn't tired. So I'd walk around again to all the rhythms of society and because you're not eating, it's not ruled by three meals, any meals a day or by your hunger. So, so it was really exciting to be free of, of any of those limitations that you have that, you know, oh, I can't do this because, you know, it's got to sleep through the night or you got to, you know, it's going to be meal time or whatever. It was, you could just engage, and on the first one, I was going to say I was sitting for a while on a log. I was just naked looking out at, at the lake and this hummingbird came and just, just, you know, flattered its wings but stayed what seemed like minutes just in front of me and we just looked eye to eye and it was the most wonderful experience. It was just like this very deep commune. And I'd been lucky to be able to do that with a few other animals like in, in Africa with a leopard and a lion but just just, this time when you can just have that quiet moment and you're not, you're not a personality, you're just a naked being in the bush, at least with, with, I wasn't naked in Africa, you can't do that, but with, with, with, I felt that with, with the, with the, with the hummingbird and with all the other animals that were in Northern, in Northern Ontario that I came across, you just felt like you were just one of them, you were at home and it was, yeah, they were always very beautiful. I never really did something like this. I did spend a lot of time in nature and I supported my people, my son to be in a, in a white kindergarten, which we call the forest kindergarten, where they're in the woods, I don't know, from the morning till early afternoon and he even stayed there. I don't, he was always outdoors. They become so strong and I, I sense that and I wish that for many people it enriches, first of all, our sensitivity, our feeling provides strengths. We can become more creative, right? When we are part of everything, because it's like a chorus, I think nature is like a chorus and there, if you start still or, what is the word? You immerse, the word immerse always comes because I think in that moment, our whole body expands, right? Even when you were sitting there when that hummingbird was coming, we're so expanded, our particles are so white because they go in, in communication with the surrounding or with the hummingbird and that's why in shamanic terms, we would call you become invisible, right? Because we're so expanded, no one would see you if that's not, not interest because the particles are just flying and humming and taking in and nourishing themselves. So if you're out there and really find fascinating what Juliet is talking about, do try it and you don't have to go out at the beginning right away into the, in the bush or in the jungle or in the woods, do it in the garden. If you only have a park because you live in the city, sit there and sit there maybe a little longer, you know, and see what the difference is between sitting there five minutes or half an hour or an hour or two hours or five hours and experience and maybe sit on something where you can even like unblank it, maybe that's not holy Esther. So you can sense what is below you, right? And I always invite people to sense what is far below you, right? The animals that live in the ground or the worms or even we can go all the way down to the fire of the magna. You think about it or the root? I mean, there's so much. So go try it out and feel what is above and what's behind you and what is on your side and you will be able to experience similar things as Juliet and as you said so Juliet so beautiful. Everyone has a little different interests, different questions is in a little different time, a lifespan, right? Where different things are important but it will give you so much, so many answers. Would that be a good idea for people to learn, to immerse themselves again in nature, to feel one with the surrounding? Yeah, I think that's beautiful. I think what's really important is to release any obstacles of limitations or I won't feel this or I can't feel this or this is silly or somebody's going to look at me and think I'm a nut or whatever but follow your heart that if you feel like hugging a tree or caressing it or just sitting behind it or on it on its roots or at its feet and then try and turn off the analytical mind that stops us from being a child and being able to be open to asking the tree, may I sit here? You know, I would really like to commune with you. Would you be open to that? Would you? May I please? And always with respect and I think one of the big things I learned when I first started studying plant spirit medicine was it's so important that you introduce yourself before you come to a plant or a tree, you introduce yourself and you ask for their permission and sometimes you might get a feeling of this isn't convenient. It's not a good time or whatever. It doesn't seem to, it doesn't seem welcoming and that's okay. Just like if somebody wants to drop by and you're about to leave the house and you say, I'm terribly sorry but I've got to go right now. So you just, you thank them and you go to maybe another one until and when you come to a place where you feel that it's a good match that they would like, you know, that there's an engagement there. Then just to ask the questions or just to ask whatever you want to do at the time, maybe you want to just feel what they're feeling or what they've seen if they're a very, very old tree or whatever or just may I just sit here and just, you know, can we exchange love? Can we just exchange some compassion with one another? I really appreciate that you're here and all the life that you bring and protect and shelter and may I sit at your roots and and be under that umbrella of love or whatever is sincere that comes up for you because everybody's very different but not to suppress the childlike wonder and awe that you can feel when you don't need to be an adult that other people are going to be, when you don't judge, when you're not judging your behavior or your thoughts as being inappropriate or silly or just take off those filters and adults allow yourself to just be like a child and really just experience these beings as if they were alive. Pretend if you don't believe that, you know, if you think, no, they're just dead, they've got no intelligence, they've got no whatever. Just say, but if they did and I sat here, what would I want to share with them or play a make-believe game if you like at the beginning, if you really feel that you want to but you just don't believe that it's possible, then just say, well, what if, what if it was and then play a game like that and then allow yourself, the biggest thing is to allow yourself to be free enough and open enough to receive and not be trying to control, you know, that I'm the only one who gives here, you know, and I'm the one who controls the game, but just forget all that. Just be there with them. Yeah, I just can sense them. The what if, I really love that. The what if to be creative, to become creative with questions, all right, so we can be surprised and then to listen, because the word wander in English is so, so beautiful. You can wander around, right? But you can also wander and see what else is there, what we have not thought about or learned or experienced yet. It's it's unending. There's so many plants, species. You know, I remember as a landscape market, they said, oh, thousands a day are dying. I said, oh my God, when I was a student, it's about 30 years ago, then that means so many species. I never even saw or touched. And that's an other invitation to everyone. Take your hands and touch and feel the different temperatures, the different humidity, the roughness of the bark. When you take your shoes off, I love to walk backwards. Since I'm a little girl, shoes are really not. I do wear them outside when I go drive. But we can soak in also when we walk bare for the magnetic field. And many of us nowadays don't even feel that magnetics anymore. The younger generation, they wear tennis shoes. It got plastic shoes in, right? I both have experienced maybe still leather soles, barely shoes, have leather soles. Well, there was still the magnetic field or the magnetism of the earth was able to get into our body and nourish ourselves and exchange. So I do invite you to, in a way, harden your feet or let your soles to become a curious what's underneath the softness, the roughness, the wetness, the sliminess. I don't know, whatever, the muddy stuff. You were a barefoot doctor. Share a little bit about that. Give people a little bit of an inspiration or some tips. And where were you a barefoot doctor? Well, I was, I was invited. I was asked if I would go and run a clinic for this. Well, an area where it was the Samburuk tribe lift up in the Northern Frontier District of Kenya. So, yeah, it was absolutely fantastic. So the first thing I did, actually, it took a while for me to get my papers, even though I just went to work as a volunteer without pay, in a place that no other African medic or nurse would go to because it was very remote. There was no rainwater or no electricity. There was a road, but I always had to walk in, which was about a five-hour walk because I didn't have a vehicle. And then I do walk in clinics, usually on the weekend. And it was just fantastic. And so, the first little bit, I went to live with a family. I lived in their -- to learn the language because I felt I couldn't be of service to them. I would choose all the wrong priorities coming from a North American or a Western judgment of what are priorities. So I went to live with them to find out what they felt were their priorities in life. And one thing that really surprised me, for example, was my priority coming from the West -- I'm a registered nurse. I'm not a doctor coming from the West -- is that we were brought up to think that our children and the people are the priority when it comes to health and if something needs to die or if there's not enough food for everything. But I quickly learned that in their society, it was the first thing that we had to do, because if some children died, there was a continuity of the tribe. If they lost their herds, everybody would die because there would be no food. So they had to make sure that the -- these ones -- they was mainly goat sheep and cows. The camels were a little bit further to the North. Some of them had -- it was mainly goat sheep and cows. But with us, the young goats and sheep lived in there, too. And there was a central fire. It was a mug-dung hut. So it was only -- I think maybe in the very center I could stand up, but otherwise, you know, you had to bend right down to get into it and then around a corner. And then there were just skins laid on wooden branches, but they hadn't been tanned at all. So you could almost crack them. It was very hard, brittle, the skins. But then, you know, warriors would come in and out. And I slept very kindly and incredibly gracious. Mother of the house, "Yeah, you all had given me her bed," which was kind of sectioned off. So I had kind of more privacy. The rest, it was just on two big platforms. Just a bunch of skins. And whoever was traveling through or needed to sleep would just, you know, would just -- could lie down there. And then the central fire was kept going a lot of the day. And a lot of the day and night. So it was pretty smoky in there. There was no windows, but if they wanted to see something, they would just punch a hole into the wall so that they could -- to bring in some light and then -- and then they could just patch it up with some more dung and mud. That only really happened in ceremonies and things when they had to have some light. But so I had to -- so I wanted to learn the language because I didn't -- where I lived. It was the only language for the people. So I -- I needed to understand what their priorities were and speak their language to be able to serve them well. So that was -- it was such a privilege and honor. They were the most wonderful, gracious, generous, and beautiful people. And -- and being passionate about it was a privilege to be able to serve them well. And so that was -- it was such a privilege and honor. They were the most wonderful, gracious, generous, and beautiful people. And being pastoralists, they lived on milk, meat and blood. And I was a -- I'd been a vegetarian for about 15 years. But I learned -- I -- I knew -- I knew I would have to eat meat. But fortunately, they didn't slaughter until about after four weeks of living on only milk. And by that time, I was so desperate to choose something that -- that it wasn't a problem to eat meat except the first piece of meat that he gave me when they slaughtered. I couldn't see it because I was at the back of the hut and it was all dark. And it was all smoky and there were lots of people. And they passed me this -- this thing that felt like a piece of leather, a shoe leather. And I -- you know, I said, "What's this?" And they said, "No, it's meat. It's meat." So I tried four or five times. I -- I couldn't -- it was just like eating a piece of a shoe. And so I heard -- yeah, you always say to them, "Oh, you better take it back at that." I guess he doesn't like the lips. But -- but yeah, no, it was -- it was fantastic. It was really -- really steep learning curve. I learned so much for them, from them. Ooh, that's fantastic. That is a rare to experience that. So how long did it take you to learn the language to -- to commune when you immersed yourself? Well, I had done it a few other times before in other languages. So what were the first time? But the -- the most complicated thing for me with this one was that with all my other languages, I would make a vocabulary book and I would put down the English name. And then I would ask them -- I would learn the word for "how do you say?" And I would point to things. And I'd make my vocabulary. But -- but with the Samburu, they'd tell me a word. And I'd memorize it. And then I would use it in a different instance. And people would say, "We don't know what you're talking about." And so I then I learned that there's very specific -- so they don't have generic terms like we do in the West, like a chair, or table, or whatever, a school, or one school. They probably would, because that's in the Western word, but in your cup. They would refer to -- because these were -- they'd have allureka. Allureka was -- was the only chair that they had, but they would use it. The warriors would carry it. Because they'd have these long masses of awkward hair. They would keep -- they would put it under their necks to sleep. And they would sit on it. And during the day, it was just a piece of woodcarve. But the other words would be specific to, you know, grandmother's cup, or, you know, go-goes from the Syracuse Cup. So when I went to another place that I would ask for, and go-go from the Syracuse Cup, they'd say, "No, what's that?" They don't have a generic name for many things, for many, many things. So that was a very new -- a very new thing for me. But I was just -- because I was used to it, and I was used to -- I'd been a few times in cultures where I didn't speak the language. So I'd learned how to communicate non-verbally as well. And then I'd learned to pick it up. And -- and -- and -- and -- is not a -- is not a complicated language. But the problem for me was they would have one word that would express many, many things. So, for example, "sopat" -- "sopat" means good. So if you wanted to say -- so I'd say, "Well, how do you say beautiful sopat?" Okay. So how do you say sterile? You've got to keep this wound really, really clean. Like, it's can't happen. It flies and stuff. They say, "Oh, that's sopat" -- "p" -- "p" just means "very." And if you want -- the more you want it clean, you say, "P-P-P-P," you know, "sopat" -- "P-P-P-P-P." And -- and so it was hard to -- so you -- like with many languages, you learn to think in that language rather than trying to translate all the time. And many of the concepts that I was trying to bring being in the health and particularly preventative, like -- it was interesting, for example, with flies. The biggest problem I saw was that they let flies walk on the children's eyes. They do on the lips. They'd be in the milk. They'd be -- and they'd have terrible infections, and the children would have bad diarrheal infections. And, you know, the -- the -- the flies were straight from the fresh dung. And so I was -- it took me a long -- I was trying to -- you know, I'd point to flies all the time, and people didn't know what I was talking about. And eventually, one person came who had some English, and I said, "What is the word for fly?" And he laughed, and he said, "Oh, Sambura would never see flies separate from air." So if you point to things, it's like you're pointing to air, and you want the word for air, because they -- they would tell you the object behind it, because fly to them is completely the same as air. They don't see them. They don't feel them. They're so much a part of their lives that they don't see them as a separate object. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so -- so that took a while to try and get across, and, of course, they didn't leave it at all, that these things could be bringing them pathogens that were causing all their eye illness, and, you know, the problems with the digestive tracts and stuff, their illnesses at Tamitra. So -- but generally, I -- I was -- you see, at first, I was told I was going to be working with a Sambura nurse, so I was very happy. But after about the second or third day working with him, he suddenly said, "Right, well, I'm off to look after my cows. You seem like you can take care of this, and I'll see you in a few weeks if I -- you know, or whenever I'm back." So that was kind of a shock. But -- but it -- no, it was fine, because people were very receptive, and they were so happy and appreciative that I didn't feel I had -- I had any problem. And I was -- I was really honored, because there are four distinct categories in Sambura that nobody crosses those borders. There's the uncircumcised girls. Then there's the Baratut, the -- the -- the -- the -- the -- then Doye. Then there's a Baratut, who are married, circumcised, and they're having children. And then you have the warriors, and then you have the elders. And they're very distinct groups. But they invited me into each group as an equal, so it was absolutely fascinating when I'd walk with the warriors and hearing how they talk about the -- you know, the girls, and -- and then being with the girls, watching goats and stuff, and hearing how they talk about -- and it's -- you know, because it's a very hierarchical society. But anyway, yeah, so I -- I -- I started work. Yeah, I suppose I was in the hut for maybe a month or two, and I -- yeah. Then I was just working and learning as I worked. So it's -- it's -- it's fascinating to listen to you, and -- and when you said you got introduced and accepted to different generations, in a way, also the social -- social characters, categories, it's very logic for me because I see you again naked in nature where you're being accepted because of who you are. And again, there you're accepted as you are, and they all can see parts of themselves in you because you're so open. So there's something about you, even in being naked all outside. Many healers long, long, long ago, right? There was exposing yourself being totally all naked means you have nothing to hide, and I wish -- okay, that the German comes through the f-ka-ka, right? The blue riders. But that if -- when we can walk this earth without clothing, most fears are gone. I mean, what do we have to fear about? And I wish we could go back and -- now, yeah, that's a whole other topic. The younger generation even German, it's not open anymore. I grew up in the '80s. I mean, we're driving a topless in cars, carpeioles. I can't remember a ride and being in the beaches. And I wish we could show our bodies in the West again because we can be seen. And we don't hide what was within us. Even to ourselves, which comes now, right? If we -- what fascinates me about you or the way around you, what if you -- is the expansion. So I always sense your expansion. That's why so much light comes through you. That's why the animals are comfortable with you. People are comfortable with you. So if we are the opposite and we crunch together, we are very dense and we pull all our particles into a tight knot, we can't really move, we can't be happy, we can't be free. And this freedom of movability, then we're stagnant and that hurts. And then we lose energy, power, hope, right? And you have exactly what I wish for so many on this planet to be able to expand and to show yourself to everyone or every being that exists on this planet. It's magical. Thank you, Juliet, that you're doing this or that you have been doing this because that radiates out into the world. Did you see now all these generations change? I do know you inspire because later I want to come to that point you were fighting for healing and humans and nature at the UN. You were just a couple of people and then it changed into many hundreds. But how did you see a change or do you see also where we're going? Are we going this way where we can be more open again and be free and naked and be understood? What do you sense? Well, I think it's very, very important where one is at when you're naked. And for me, I love being naked but in a totally non-sexual way. If there's any sexuality involved, then it can invite a sexuality frequency. And if you don't want that, then it's important to only see the divine in others and whether it be the nature or whether it be other people. But you're speaking beyond the body so your bodies can be clothed or not clothed. It won't inhibit your relationship with somebody. And I learned very early because I spent a lot of time traveling by myself and I was usually either hopping freight trains or hitchhiking alone through many different countries. And I found out very early that you have to be always very present and very much aware of the frequency that's especially with hitchhiking. Because inevitably it was usually men who would single men or maybe a couple men who would pick you up to really be aware of and keep the energy at a high level. So you're speaking to their higher selves. So it doesn't come down to you being three bodies in a car, one female and two males. It's more that you're speaking on a level where you see them or who and what they are beyond their bodies. And, you know, because, you know, once or twice I'd have to kind of jump out of a car because suddenly it would turn, you know, there'd be something that would happen often on the radio or some whatever. And then you could feel suddenly. So it was like being in the jungle in that I was thinking the other day, you know, the thing about being alone and walking in the rainforest or the jungle is that you can't be complacent enough to turn off. And that's what we often want to do, be able to be all spaced out and just walking and enjoy. Because there might be a snake there, there might be, I mean, I ran into a leopard which totally freaked me out because I was kind of spaced out. I didn't know that there were any around there. And she broke it, you know, she broke a branch just in front of being. It was like, we had this time for just eye time together and it was whoa. And so when you're in those spaces, when you're in wild nature, you have the opportunity to constantly be aware in present. You can't afford to just space out. So with nudity or with any of those things, the freedom, I think, comes from being aware of your consciousness, where you're at and what you want to be creating around you. Very, very good point. So it is really seeing the beauty of oneself, seeing the beauty of the world and being peaceful within and really wishing for peacefulness and calmness. And around the world, for everyone, everything existing, right, that it can be in its most precious form. Yeah, and to see that. But you also then also, because you have this understanding what is needed, you also went out and then educated other people or even fought a little bit or fought so that nature and the way of native tribes of certain areas can live in their landscapes. And that we treat our landscape, our food, our plants, our humans with no poisons, right, that we don't that we don't spray and that the plants that do feed us do nourish us. Yeah, and actually going back to the Samburu, when you always feel like such a fool, when you enter in by yourself into a situation where everybody speaks a language you don't have a clue about, because you're a buffoon, you have to be like a clown and then even the two year olds are explaining to you, you know, some words repeating them. And there was this one little three year old who was just adorable. It was the most beautiful little child and he, all the young people would say to me, but because many of them had never seen a white person close up before. So, of course, when you go to any of these tribes and they haven't seen, of course, there's a touching the hair and the skin and you know that. So you kind of feel like an object, but at the same time, when you realize that it's just loving curiosity that, you know, it can help bind you as opposed to separate. And the one thing that they kept saying was, as young people, they never, because they were, you know, they were told to teach me the language. They never, the only thing that they're supposed to teach the younger ones is about the plants and the medicine. So they would keep, they would keep trying to tell me plant names and medicine. But I was just trying to learn how to, I needed to learn how to say, you know, hello, how are you? Does this hurt? You know, are you thirsty? Are you hungry? Are you these type of things? So, but it was interesting that for them and with the children, the first thing they would always do when we were out together, they would point at the plant and say, this is good for, you know, such and such an organ, or this is good for such and such a ritual. But that was, that was really what they, they couldn't, they hadn't before thought about learning the language for just these other types of things rather than learning the plants and the area, the nature around them, how to fit in. And they probably knew you also, right? They knew, they sensed you, they're so in tune with, I don't know, we can call it spirit, your energy field, your beingness, your purpose here, right? The purpose of your being is very plant or, right, being there for the plants and helping others see it, communicate it, learn from it, and treat it well, or better, even. And they noticed that, they saw that and no wonder they gave you all this information, but that is really, because we are really part of nature, it's also very logic that you, there is so much of plant, a wisdom that you have. But that was also the knowledge that they prioritized for survival in their area, you know, as a young child, you need to grow up learning what are friendly plants, what are good ones for brushing your teeth, what are ones you must ever put near your mouth, or you'll get sick, what are, you know, all these different things. So, in Europe, you know, all our wise women, or so many died or were lost their lives, rather than hands. And we slowly have to refine as a find it again, and more and more young people are really starting now to look for it, looking at old scriptures or texts and learning about our ecosystem, our micro ecosystem, and what plants nourish us, heal us, and whatever, right, because now that all of us learns anything about plants and they are less and less plants in grocery stores that we eat, I think, maybe a few more imports, but that's it, we know not much about surrounding anymore. You know, most of the things are treated as weeds, a nuisance, and not as a healing plant. That is really interesting, and it's coming like this, but if you're out there, get a book and teach your children what they can maybe eat and what they can use to heal themselves, or even make it, you know, start simple with what teas you can find, or a plant for teas you can find outdoors in nature, in your area, wherever you live, it doesn't matter if you're really in the north, so in the south, close to the water, even where it's very stony and desert-y. There are plants that do support you, right, that we can start and teach our children a little bit and educate ourselves. I think that is would be a wonderful input. I think one of the most important things is one's attitude also before one even thinks of picking plants is to realize these are living beings that you need to respect and honor, and just as you wouldn't go to the market, and if somebody was selling apples, just say, "I'm taking" and fill up your bag and grab them from her, you know you would talk to her, you would ask, you would pay her for them, whatever. And nature is giving it to us for free, but it doesn't mean that she can be abused, so if you, you know, like even, you know, I shouldn't say even, but dandelions, for example, the most important thing is no sprays of being on them, and they're not by a roadside because then they can be quite polluted with things that could other things that aren't good for you, but if you're in a wild field, dandelion leaves are a great way to start, they are diuretic, which means they make you pee so you don't want to take them before bed. But they're a beautiful plant, but if you go to the plant first, or if you're picking fruit, whatever, but just acknowledge and respect and ask the plant and ask them if they would release their beautiful properties for you when you pick them and thank them at the end of it. And you don't even need to give them anything other than your blessings and your good wishes and your thanks, but I think this is really important. If whenever our interaction and our relationship with nature needs to change, and I think we're coming to a point two where we're going to start to. It seems like it's starting to open up that we can start to commit more with the actual plants to ask them what their properties are and what we could use them for. And if it's good or not, but that's a whole different thing and children, if you don't know about them because there are poisonous things out there. It's, you know, stick to the books, dandelion leaves will not hurt you, for sure, and nettles, you know, but you have to learn how to pick the nettle so you don't get sun. But again, as long as there's no weed killer, no kind of pesticide on them, or biocide on them, and that they're not by the roadside where they've had gasoline or diesel or whatever fumes on them. So start to acknowledge the flowers in your garden, go and talk to them, just go and say how beautiful you are. And, you know, I just, I just want to say you're absolutely gorgeous. I really appreciate you. And you smell wonderful light. Thank you for your fragrance. And thank them. And then you start to change. When you start to open up and realize that these are sentient, these are beings that have a consciousness and an intelligence that we don't understand at all. Therefore, we've been saying that they're not there, but still talk to them with respect and start relationships like that. And you'll find your whole perception starts to expand a little bit. Yeah, this is for me, since I'm a little girl, I always felt really drawn and always saw the beauty. But that's how I relate. I see a beauty of a plant or when I touch it, there's a love always for me for a plant. And, and there is how we relate to it. I'm also always this beautiful curiosity. And then I'm, there's automatically a sense happiness for me. And that's an exchange. And there goes as a thankfulness is in it. If I think there's a strong love, there's a strong thankfulness in anything anyway. Right. So, yeah, it is, they have so much to offer. And sometimes we just need one thing. I learned once an interesting there is Anastasia book subreddit. You know, they take animals out. There was a woman who would take an animal out and the animal would pick the herbs or things to get healthy, healthy again. Yeah. Oh, wealthy and health. And, and then I thought, Oh my God, we only need like one raspberry here, maybe a blackberry I find in the woods there. Right. It's not also the many things. I need just one flower to be happy or put it on my cheek or feel feel the petals. Not a whole big book. Okay, always. Right. So, and which one attracts you so to really become comfortable in following your own intuition or where your body moves you so our body also gets moved to places in nature that do you well, where you can get maybe information or your system gets fed with energy, where you can just let go become one with everything. Yeah, that is, that is important. And you mentioned a council that you go out into this beautiful place you have behind you. Are you allowed to share something they provide to you or to the world or this planet for us because you do converse also not just for yourself you converse often for the welfare of our beautiful globe. Yeah, very much so. I used to mainly talk to up until I guess a couple of years ago, I was mainly the trees and flowers. And when I was actually we were in Greece and we were some ancient ruins, and I was dancing with wild flowers and just telling them how beautiful they were and how much I was enjoying this. And they said, well, would you be willing to, to have a message to talk to the stone elders. And I said, stone elders, I didn't know that stone elders. And I said, sure, absolutely. I said, well, they have a message if you'll, if you'll have them. So I said, sure. And then they started teaching me and giving me a lesson in wherever we went in Greece about how there's all this very heavy kind of karmic energy embedded in the stones and especially in ancient Greek Greece because of all the atrocities, all the human suffering and violence. And as well as the beauty and the art and etc. But a lot of this was still stuck in the stones. So they were giving me a process through which to, to free it, love it free. So that, because they said, now is the time the time has come that the earth can start to love free all of this sludge of eons or millennia of human mis creations that have brought so much heaviness. And it's also imprinted in people's minds and hearts and in almost the DNA, but it's actually in the landscape as well, and in these stones. So they gave me a process so I did that when we were there and then a while later we were in the capadocia in, well, actually we would, well, I won't go into all of it because it's very convoluted, but ended up being in in capadocia in Turkey. And the rock elders introduced themselves to me as quite distinct from the stone elders. And they asked me if if I would do healing with them as well, because again, you know, they were in the crossroads they had the crusades and the invasions back and forth of so many different peoples. And so again, I did it there and then when I came back here, it was interesting because at when then I was at the bottom of the tree and then the rock old and we have a lot of stone ruins here. And they both laughed and they said we had to take you, you had to go all the way over there to realize that we're here you wouldn't listen to us when you were here, but there's so much embedded here in Ireland too with a incredibly heavy history. That has happened on this island. And so started doing that with them as well. And, and, and I've always kind of been with the elements water has always been, I've always communed with it. So it's opened up a lot so my nature council now consists of grandmother beach and mama zara at the roots. She's right about the river. And then there's rock elders in the stone elders, and then there's the five, the five elements. Oh, the river, the past, and then there's a over lighting Dave of the and freak on this is it's called the and freck on is where we live which in English means the Glen of the rooks or the crows ravens, because they all, they all come and live, they come in in the evenings and they go out in the mornings. Huge swathes of them in all the big old trees here. And so, over lighting Dave of the end of the con crow is one of the plan, who I ran into, who I really introduced themselves for himself first of all when I was doing a course in Damanhor in Italy. And then gave me a really interesting, very dramatic test in Crete with a goat. That was a, it's actually on my website I wrote up the story because it was, it was kind of so extraordinary so pan is there. And the river that runs through because I'm just above a river, and then the five elements in the four directions, and then we, we're in a kind of a council around and mother earth is in the middle of us. And then divine mother overseas so kind of guides, guides us as well so, yeah, sometimes they have direct messages sometimes I go just to listen, sometimes they tell me at the time sometimes it comes to me that later times because we're kind of always in communication And then for example, a couple years ago, and Maria asked if I would do, if there was a holy place in Ireland to go on the winter solstice, and so I asked the stone elders here and he said yes he would, you know, they're all connected around the earth so And New Grange is prehistoric monument there, and many people go there for the solstice because the winter solstice you know the sun comes in a certain shaft right at the dawn of the solstice in December. So I went and I just asked, you know, the stone stone elders here to organize with them and so they gave me a message when I went there and have my hands on them and they. So then it put me in contact with them just like they had in Greece and in Turkey so it's a worldwide web of course. But it has expanded beyond the trees and flowers and plants. Ooh, then I really want to thank you for all the work, the time, the energy, the love, the compassion you're putting into the world for all of us. That's what I sense and feel. You really are one with everything. And you combine, combine, connect, re-relate or re-introduce, that's the word I was looking for. Each other and you also bring things that have been forgotten that have been hidden to the presence or even I've since you provided for the future that it can be read by many others or heard or sensed. And bowing would be a ball to you for that humbleness. Again, I don't even humbled. I don't have the word for it. It's so vast. I'm so thankful that you are this woman I've always been since this girl of the being on this planet for living your purpose of being this communicator and healer at the same time, right? Because the communication heals and this exchange heals. So your light, your love, your green. I love the deal. So many greens are always around very time. I see you. And everyone there is interesting. Some cultures, they have many, many, many words and I know there's one Indian tribe that has even 300 words just for different green shades. And Juliet, you fit right in there. I don't know how many words you have for green in Irish. Yeah, and probably also so many because there's so many shades of green on that island. So I want to thank you. But before I want to let everyone know Juliet mentioned of her website that on her website, there's the blog and you should read the stories about Greece and etc. Her website is called jurninghome.com, right? If I'm correct with this, so plunge into it and nourish yourself. And Juliet, if I think just about your website, each word, each letter is infused with that love that you have for any place on this planet. And you're so open and following the call to communicate with all different beings on different places around the world. And I still see you to go there and do that for many, many, many more years. And one more thing, keep on thanking you, but that you took the time today to on a very short notice, everyone, she was right there. She felt also, I think, that urge that is a love, light, greenness to go out to you so you can replenish, nourish yourself, educate yourself, educate the ones you love. Your community and spend much, much, much more time in nature. And then it would be a good question, Juliet, for you. What would be so the final or the ultimate? I'm not going to, the ultimate thing a person could do that comes right now, if you think about it, or the council is maybe telling you right now. I think it's just as your web, as your podcast says, it's, it's feeling into the oneness that we are all. So there's nothing to fear and there's no other out there. There's only to nourish and support and to love and to, to understand. And certainly right now on the planet, there is so much need for compassion and understanding. And, yeah, lots of opportunity and I think relationships that are being very aware of, are we judging? Are we othering anybody, whether we see them on the news or whether they, they insult us or say something that we don't agree with or whatever. To realize that we're all beautiful, different diversity, a beautiful diversity of aspects of the one. And so our, our possibility is to learn how to harmonize all these, all these, all this diversity as best we can to make harmonious and beautiful world, because the world out there is very much a reflection of our internal world. Beautiful input words, a flow of sound, I think it went into everyone's, yeah, and body and they could sense your words on the deepest level within and will now from now on not be fearful of not being one. And do know that they're one with everything and that they become more courageous to explore. Like you, you've been so courageous to explore the world and other humans and other plans around the world. Thank you very much. Again, thanks for sharing your wisdom. Everyone do reach out to Juliet. She had so much to share and more and she's a fighter in my eyes for a better time. I say something to that, because I got a very strong message about a year ago, saying the time for fighting any concept of fighting is coming over. And I was given this image of something called paxier, it's the time of paxier and paxier is an archetype that embraces and brings together and focuses on the divine of each, so that it, it harmonizes, and no longer pushing out rejecting fighting or any because fighting is based on the concept of another of separation consciousness, and where we've now left that time. We now need to embody the oneness, which we all are which, which is a paxier energy rather than a fighter energy in the warrior, you know that, because I was looking at rainbow warrior and I was saying, that was for that time. Now it's paxier, pax meaning peace in Latin, and in a lot of the Latin languages is there's a form of it, P-A-A-I-X or, you know, but so that is, yeah, so I don't stand for warrior or fighting anymore, it is absolutely embracing as paxier. So the beauty, the peacefulness within creates the peace outside and the other way around, so everyone feel your harmony and balance and bring that into yourself and share that with the world. So everyone, have a wonderful, wonderful time, take in the energy of Juliet and enjoy the rest of your day or evening. I'm Eileen, you're host and again, Juliet. Thank you very much and the best to everyone, a peaceful time of oneness. Bye-bye everyone. Bye-bye, thank you so much, my Lord. Thank you. [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING]
