(bell dinging) - Call it. - Call it, yes. - For all I'd just call it. - No problem, too. (upbeat music) ♪ Two men on a mission ♪ ♪ To watch every movie ♪ ♪ Committed to the task like Kevin ♪ ♪ They can work and they do it ♪ ♪ They see you people ♪ ♪ And you want a man ♪ ♪ A letter box of names are M-E-C-I-F-I ♪ ♪ Fact it's Nickman ♪ ♪ So you know where to go ♪ ♪ If you're a nanomie ♪ ♪ Or a friend of the show ♪ ♪ Call it, friend of the show ♪ ♪ Call it, call it, friend of the show ♪ ♪ Call it, call it, friend of the show ♪ - They are divorced, but we're fucking alive. - Yeah, we're still going. - Yeah, we're stronger than that. - Yeah, yeah. - We got a relationship stronger than Oak. Been along hiatus. I've gotten some messages from some people saying, "Hey, is the podcast still on?" Well, guess what, fuckers, it is. - Hey, I heard we got a nice shout out. You know where I heard about it? From you about 10 minutes ago. - Oh, that's right, yeah. On R-T-E dot I-E. - R-T-E, that's O-R-T-E. - There's no need to do a funny accent. - Sorry. - But yeah, from enemy, sworn enemy of the show, John Spillan, gave us a shout out. Said it's his favorite podcast. It was a very nice film. Said that we watch obscure films. Obscure films, he says. What can obscure films? John Spillan, I would ask you, what's so fucking obscure about the 1982 PAM door winner? It's not obscure. - What's that? That's Fiskaraldov, jeez, Sandy, we watched them both this week. - Did we watch them both this week? Did we now? How many weeks has it been since the last episode? - Well, I mean, I watched the films both this week. - You watched eight hours of films this week. - Yeah, well, I'm gonna reply to you. I did not watch both of these films in the last week. It's been a while. - Really? It's been a while. - Wow. - Yeah. I mean, we'll do a little bit of what we've been watching, but I just want to-- - You just want a lot of what we'd be watching. - Did you watch, how many sessions did you watch until the end of the week? - Obviously, obviously not in one sitting. You didn't sit for five hours in one spot. - No, no, I didn't, but I did two. I did two sessions. - Fucking hell, even that. I mean, I think I did like an hour and a half, an hour, another hour, maybe half an hour. The last hour and a half, well, again, we'll get to that, but the last hour and a half of that film was killing me. - Hmm, and Fitzgeraldo? - Yeah, one saying, but after five hours, a two and a half hour film, you're like, come on now. We're never playing. This isn't even real if you're only gonna do two and a half hours for a film. - Until the end of the world is a wild of those. So what the fuck have you been watching besides eight hours of new German magnum opuses? - Holy hell. Well, listen, I'm just gonna list some of these off. You can find them on my letter box to hand DCIF pod from off of the theme chain there, but. - Yeah, you list a few and I'll poke at them if I want to. - Right, okay, first of all, I rewatched pray. - Nice. - All I do, each night is pray. - I've only watched the first 20 minutes of that and I fell asleep. Not the film's fault, it's just me being tired. But yeah, it did seem relatively enticing. Even though I will say the American accents were annoying me. The American accents from the American people. - Yes, that was annoying. It's just annoying that they exist. Native Americans, that's actually the real American accent. Hate to break it to you. - The American accent, while they're speaking English, I suppose is what I'm getting at. - Well, I mean, I think they sort of, I don't know if it's how rude it is, but they were going to do it in the native language first. And there is a dub of that, whichever native language it is, yeah. - No, but it's a dub. - I know, I know, and that's the problem, is like if they just shot it, could they not have done taking two takes? Can we not afford two takes? - I'm trying to convince a guy to record a series of sketches I've written right now in English and Catalan and just get actors. And he's just like, nah, that would take forever, so. - Anyway, pray is a solid seven out of 10 for me. It's still the second best pray to her film. - Good, go. - Trap, I went to the cinema to see him show. - Oh, I was in Milan's trap. - Is it crap? - Yeah, so I ended up, I was probably a bit harsh on it 'cause I've given it two and a half stars on LaraBoxed. And now I'm thinking like, is that too little? It's a solid premise, which I'm sure you know the premise from having, you must have seen the trailer, which is what Josh Harnay is a big bad murderer guy. - I'm loving the renaissance of his career. I think he's been reading this film. - Yeah, he's doing very well for himself. - And the film is solid for the first hour order. So when they're inside the concert, but basically, they leave the concert and as far as I'm concerned, it just all kind of goes to shit. It falls apart, you know, when you go to the, you know, they leave like the main place where they've set everything up. - Yeah. - And it just goes off the rails. - Like when it's just Nick Cage and Gary Sinise on the boardwalk and snake eyes. - Exactly, and snake eyes. - Exactly like that, stay in the casino. - Indeed. All right, give me two more. I'll give you four more. - Two more. Okay, I'll let's do that. Next, I watched something that you have seen before and I know you're a fan of the impossible. - Oh yeah, I actually rewatched it last year. So rather a bit flesh in my mind. How did you get along with it? - I don't know why I did this off for so long. I think it was because like, I mean, I can-- - I remember the reasons of filming them to quote them down, what were they? - You're like, you remember the news story and you were just like, these are Spanish people. Why is these guys playing them? - Yeah, actually, I think that might be why I wrote in my watch reviews, well, those are the exact reasons. But watching, I was like, wow, this is incredibly well made. - He's such a great writer, isn't he? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Very, very solid. - The scene when Tom Holland finds his mum. Were you weeping? - I don't know if I was weeping, but I was 100%. Like, it's one of those films where they give you that real, that moment where-- - Yeah, that is the moment-- - He's running what you want. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, it gives you exactly what you want and as a viewer, it's just beautiful stuff. - And you know where that was shot at that hospital? - Thailand. - Tarasa. - Oh, okay. - Just inside the hospital. - Indeed, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good-- - Very similar places. - Give us one more. Well, that's where Bion is from. - Yeah, fair play. And we saw him, what was the film where we-- - Introducing a monster call. - A monster calls, and we hit with his little Q and A. - A nice shot. - The whole cinema weeping. - Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah. That was good too. Well, okay, last of these four, I saw Life, not the Eddie Murphy. - I was just gonna say-- - Not the Martin Lawrence Eddie Murphy joint. - Has that been watched since 1996 by anyone? - It's crazy. - I watched Life, the sci-fi film-- - Oh, Jake Gyllenhaal. - Jake Gyllenhaal and Ryan Reynolds, et cetera. - Is it good? - It is the, I think it might, on Letterbox I said, this is the most three-star film ever made. It is just absolutely standard. - This is our place for that, I suppose. - There is, but you watch it and you're kind of going like, this could have been so good. And as it is, it's just rudimentary taking off things on a list and going like, yeah, that was a thriller. That was a sci-fi thriller, folks. No interest, 'cause the thing is-- - You can't write. - The actual premise is an interesting idea. - Yeah, so I mean, the little, so they find Life out in space and then they do a bunch of tests on spoilers for Life. They find this alien out in space. They do some tests on it, it breaks out and it fucks everything up. Super, super spoilers for Life ending spoilers here, 'cause I don't, this is a three-star film. The, they do a little switcheroo at the end and the alien ends up making it back to Earth. So it's like a whole sort of like-- - Oh, we're like getting into the thing, but not-- - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, that, but then showing is like definitely the world is fucked. That's the only sort of strong part of it beyond that. Such a, just the most average film possible. - I think everyone's got a bit of Ryan Reynolds fatigue right now that might've been weighing on you too. Is he doing his shtick? Does he do shtick in space? - He does. - He do space stick. - He does, he's space Ryan Reynolds, but then he does get really serious at one point, not long before he dies. - Fair, I like that. - I like that. - I'll throw a few at you. - Go. - So I re-watched flight film I've seen loads of times. - I haven't seen flight and I like the idea of flying a plane upside down and doing coke with John Goodman and stuff. - You never seen it? - I haven't, I know those, those plot beats, never seen it. - There's a big weak part of it, which is the soundtrack often matches what's on screen, which is kind of jarring. Like someone overdoses on heroin and under the bridge by the Red Hot Chili Peppers is on. Like it's-- - That's like what's it called, the film we watched with the terrible music choices. De Andrew, Dominic one, I can't think. - Oh yeah, killing them softly. - Yeah, killing them softly. It was the terrible, terrible music choices there. So on the nose. - Yeah, the exact same thing. The exact same thing. - But then, I don't know, just reflecting back on my own relationship with booze and shit like that. I actually think it kind of captures the, I think it's a very good movie about recovery. I always thought there's a Kelly Riley plot, it's a plot in it that I always thought was superfluous. But then you realize that the whole film has to be about this guy eventually crashing to his bottom. So like the, like Robert's Emicus is great to take the movie on because I don't think anybody else could, like the crash sequence, the crashing sequences may be the best bit of plain trouble in movie history. Really, it's something else. It's so, I've seen this film like three or four times and most of the time I'm just watching it for that. But it really dug its teeth into me this time and got me quite emotional in the end. I watched the black phone. Have you seen the black phone? - No, again, I want to see that. But I got the sense that it was going to be a bit crap. - I thought it was brilliant. It reminded me of the best kind of Stephen King novel, which is that he just thinks of a concept and whatever will explain it if we need to, but even better if we don't, so long as the concept is solid. And the concept is there's a child kidnapper around a town, kid gets put in the basement and there's this phone in the basement that calls. - He's the phone black. - It is a black phone that calls and it's the kidnappers, former victims trying to help him get out, right? - But are they dead? Wait, there's that spoiler. - They're dead. - Yeah, they're dead. And we know that they're dead. - Yeah, we know it makes sense if they escape and they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, like, and it just, I mean, it's the sort of thing I can imagine people niggling at, but yeah, for me, it really, really worked. I really liked it. And I had read some actually cagey reviews about it, so I was also a little bit prepared not to like it. I thought it was absolutely great. - Okay. - Some really tense moments in it. Yeah, I watched a few good horrors over the break. I watched Meet Me in the Bathroom. You watched that also. Made me wanna read the book of it that is based on a little bit. But yeah, still interesting. - It's fun, it's fun stuff. - Yeah. And I watched, let's see, I'll just pop two of you and wanna watch stage coach that John Ford movie, which is the character parts are interesting, but the fucking backdrop projection action scenes just don't really work for me anymore. Anybody who pretends they do is lying. - Is that like 1939 or something? - It is, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And then myself and Belen re-watched The Exorcist, which I mean, what more can you say? It's just incredible. - You go. - I watched Monsters. - Nice. - First time, quite liked it. Thought it was decent. Maybe the best Gareth Edwards film, apart from Rogue One, although he had that taken away from him. So yeah, I liked it. I thought the ending was solid. I didn't even really catch what happened in the ending until I ran. - And then they get dragged away from one another, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, yeah, without going into spoilers, I didn't catch exactly what happened and then looked up and was like, all right, okay, that's actually really good. I liked it. I watched I.C.U. from 2019. - I don't know what that is. - I know. I'm not surprised. It's got Helen Hunt, everyone's favorite. Owen Teague from all of stuff. It's about like this, it's kind of a strange little film. I gave it three stars. It's got some really interesting, like the first half of it is really supernatural and this is spoilery. This is a bit spoilery, but the first half is really supernatural and then the second half is definitely not supernatural. So it's sent up like an interesting thing. There's a whole serial killer thing going on. It's got some interesting parts and some interesting things going on, but ultimately like the serial killer plot, there's not enough to it and it kind of falls apart. But yeah, I would say it's solid. It's solid enough, solid enough little horror film. I also watched a film from 2014 called The Treatment. I guarantee you do not know what this is. - No, I don't. - Yeah, so it's a 2014 film from Belgium. It's an adaptation of a novel by Mo Hader. It's about this police inspector, his younger brother went missing years ago and he's been tormented by this like local pedo who he thinks took his brother when he was a kid. And now in the present day, a kid goes missing and he has to try and solve the case. And then obviously the two things end up being interlinked, the past and the present. It's really, really fucked up. It's really hard going. Anyway, yeah, so you know like you, there's a lot of European films on the topic of like child kidnapping and pedos and stuff like that. - Sure. - They tend to be extremely dark. They go, I think they go into a level of depth that a lot of Hollywood things wouldn't. Anyway, this film is very much of that ilk. It's a ruffled, it's a ruffled go. It's called The Treatment from 2014. - And you can't recommend it. - I gave it three and a half stars. It's one of those films that is like, you're only gonna watch it once, let's say. It's a ruffled go. Just like I refuse to watch Snowtown a second time, I guess. - Very much, yeah, very much in that way of thinking. I'll give you one more. I re-watched the Kid Detective. - Ah, it's still on my fucking list. Is it still great? - Yeah, I again, like near the start, I was like, I don't know, I was like, why did I like this so strongly? I don't know why I really, really enjoyed it the first time around, but then when it starts to pick up speed and by the time I got to the end, I was like, yeah, no, I remember why I really like this film, or stocks and a little love heart. - That used to be me whenever I would recommend Observe and Report to people. And sometimes I would watch it with them. And like, do you know what would always happen? It'd be 50/50. Sometimes people would go, that was a big bunch of shit. And I'd be there going, I don't care, I still love it. But then some other people would go, that's amazing. I love it, I do, I love Observe and Report very much my cup of tea, right? - I'm gonna power through stuff, except for if stuff that was like a first time watch. Watch the American Psycho, absolutely hilarious. We're better than I remembered actually, Citizen Kane. It's obviously really good, it is really good. Piranha is the best, most fun Jaws rip off, you'll ever see. - That's the most recent 1970s one. - Yeah, what's his name? - Roger Kohns. - Oh no, Joe Dante. - Joe Dante, yeah. It is a Roger Kohns movie though. Watch the David Gordon-Green Halloween for the second time. I just don't like that movie. - Why are you doing that to yourself? - It was on TV. - Perhaps it. - You couldn't move your legs at that point. - Eh, that's true actually, this is why, by the way, I've watched an insane out of stuff. 'Cause I was just sitting on my ass. - Yeah, this is, you injured yourself, just for the benefit of the list. - Yeah, yeah, that's true, that I injured myself. - You injured yourself. A fatal attraction, first time I ever saw that. Have you ever seen fatal attraction? - I have, not for a lot. It was one of those things I probably watched when I was about nine years old or something. - Andy, it's so fucking good. I couldn't believe how much I enjoyed this film. - I've got like, I've got images of the, you know, killing the bunny, rabbit, yeah, yeah, boy in the bunny. I've got images of that, seared in my brain again from when I was quite a young kid. - So people who don't know, classic of the '80s, Michael Douglas. Michael Douglas's penis gets his whole family into trouble. - And that's it, that's the part. - That is the, like the plot of the movie. It's amazing. - It's a lady, Glenn Close. - Glenn Close, and she is fantastic. She's so scary in this. There's a couple of real fist pumps or the moments, but there's also just the fact that, like, there's no point in the movie that you are rooting for Michael Douglas. You're rooting for his wife and his kid, and if they forgive him, fair enough, but you're just there going, you stupid dickhead. She's not even that hot. What the hell is wrong with you, Michael Douglas? But no, no, she was crazy. - That's crazy. - That comment aside. - That's hot. - Like, yeah, he just goes and has this affair, and he clearly loves his wife, so it is just his penis wanting to feel good for a few seconds. Nobody famous Glenn Close. - She's not Glenn Close. - No, she is not Glenn Close. She didn't stare in a full season of the shield, and Archer is, it was Forest Whitaker. - It was Forest Whitaker, yes. - It's a lot of interest. - No, and Archer. - Oh yeah, I remember her. - Yeah, but that is great, and you throw me a few there. - I watch "See How They Run." - Yeah, so it's about like a staging of "The Mouse Trap," and then it's like a sort of comedy, who-don-it-type thing. It's got Sam Rockwell and Saoirse Ronan in it. - Oh, this came out a couple of years ago. - Yeah, yeah, it's from two years ago. - Kind of twee and-- - I was not, I was not a fan. - It is twee. It's like Lil Rem was Anderson in my book. Didn't like it. It wasn't enough to, they cast, they cast old Sammy Rocks as like, just the most dire-boring character. You get such a great character actor, and they just made, you know, he had such a shit role. So overall, I gave it, I gave it two and a half, and not a fan, can't recommend it. But on the other end of the scale, I watched 2007's The Man From Earth. - Oh, I've seen that. - Yeah, how do you feel about The Man From Earth? - So hold on, let me, just to be clear, this is the guy who's both Buddha and Jesus and everything, and he's lived forever. - Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, exactly, it's a guy who's been alive for thousands of years. He quits his job as a uni lecturer guy, and then now he tells all of his colleagues, "Wait a minute, I've actually been alive for thousands of years." - I've probably seen this like two or three times. - Yeah, like the plot is so fantastic, that you forgive everything. - Yeah, it looks like '90s TV. It's so poorly shot, and the score is horrendous. - But it's so engaging, isn't it? - It's great, it's just people sing around talking about ideas. - Well, it's a mental exercise, basically. That's what the film is, it's, I loved it. - I loved it, I thought it was great. - I thought it was a really, really good big fan, and again, it looks like absolute dog shit. - And it didn't even realize. - The first time you said. - Yeah, yeah, and it did make me realize, like, so many of my favorite films are just people sing around talking. - If you can make people in a room talking work, like, you know what's the film I love? You know, they had the Roman Polanski movie, A Carnage. - Oh yeah, I remember that one with Christoph Waltz and stuff. - Yeah, and Jody Foster, like John C. Riley, that's a Kate Winslet, what a cast, Jesus. But that's one, I think I've seen that three or four times, 'cause it's such easy watching and so engaging, but the man from Earth is a different ball game, because as it's, you're just going, because of the era that that hitched to his studio, that's why the production value is like that. If they had been 10 years later, they would have got a budget. They would have said, why is it all in this room? Show us this fucking guy's life. What, it wouldn't have been as good, because that would have just been- - That would have just happened, I think, yeah. - Cheesy and Google, anything, it has to just be people talking. - Ah, so love that movie, glad you brought it up. - God, I'm going to re-watch it sometime soon, yeah. 'Cause I think I saw it on Amazon, that's why, it seemed to pop up my thing, they must put it on recently. Go on, give us one more and I'll- - Well, I'm into my final three. I don't know if you want me to fire my final three, they're all first-time watches, or should I just do one? - No, in that case, I'll take you through my first-time watches as we go, okay, so re-watched first time in years, assassination in Jesse James, by the Carol Robert Ford. It actually is a, it is as slow, if not slower, than people say, but I don't know why. - It's like three hours. - It's three hours, hardly anything happens, it's great. - Oh, I love it though, great music. - Amazing music, it's got to be the best performance of Brad Pitt's career, I would say. He is really scary in that, and also Casey Affleck is on top form also. Ah, just magnificent, what a, like, you know the scene where the train comes around the corner and the darkness, the one they're going to rob? Like, it's just incredibly sharp. - I need to watch again, the only scene I can really remember is Casey Affleck on stage, and some guy, and he's like, "Ooh, that'll rock well." - Oh yeah, yeah, in my mind, he's like, "Who are you, who the fuck are you?" But he doesn't say that, 'cause of that Stevie from East Band and Don. - We got a re-watched the killer, 'cause it's like, I was doing a lot of sitting down, and that's quite- - Which one? There's so many things called the killer. Are we talking about the Fincher one? - The Fincher one, yeah, the Fincher one. - The Fincher one, I re-watched that. - Yeah, I said it when we reviewed it. I was like, "I'm gonna watch this many times," 'cause it's just, it's so easy, so fun. That first part where he's just listening to the Smiths talking to himself, yeah, yeah. So good, such good fun. I think Fastbender is just a magnificent actor. Mean Girls, don't watch it again, and I love it, hey. So here's the first watch, and it's one that you watched last year. I watched May, December. - Oh yeah. - Now, I thought this was a kind of a fascinating movie. It really, really drew me in, and I think the performances in it are really next level. That's what really brings this. I'm gonna have to give the film a Google 'cause I'm sorry, the guy who plays the husband is not famous, but he is the highlight of the film. - I don't care, I remember his name, he's very good. - Charles Melton. - Charles Melton is, so we talked about it back there with Aquinas Tothain's director. It's a true story. Lady had sex with a 12-year-old basically, got sent to prison, got let out, had sex with him again, got pregnant by him sort of twice, and eventually got married. And then years later, they got divorced, and she died and stuff. And it's just a very thin fictional veil to examine that story. And I mean, because it's that thin veil, and we've spoken about this with the likes of Nittrim, some people get bugged about this kind of thing 'cause there's real people involved. I don't personally, I think take the license if you want. Don't hurt people or whatever, but clearly this woman was a bit of a monster, and Tothain's is take on this. And Tothain's is a director, by the way, who's gone on record as having, he's a gay dude, and he like reckons he got taken advantage of as a gay teenager himself by older men. He's like said things like that in interviews and then not in connection with this film. So I imagine he did feel a bit of a connection with the material in some way. And the performance that this lad, Melton gives. I've never seen him in anything before, but it's really just, I mean, it's the mark of a great, 'cause Julianne Moore, she's worked with Hayden's a bunch before, obviously Natalie Portman is great as well, but his, your heart is just bleeding for this poor fellow. - Yeah, it's very sad. - And I thought this was, 'cause I was just looking through, myself and Ben are gonna watch something. I said, yeah, Andy said this is good. It seems like my Bjork up at T. But we were both really sort of floored by it. Sort of film that makes you wanna have a conversation about the film. - What's the age gap between you and your lady? How much older is she than you? - Three. - Yeah, three years. - Three years. - Should we have a conversation? - Yeah, go on. - Just throw some of me. - Oh, okay. - I'm tied to my final three, so. - Yeah, give me a new one. A million years ago at this point, I went to the cinema to see Alien Romulus, the new Fettie Alvarez film. - Ah, yes. - Some people hated it. - Some people hated it. - And you still haven't seen it. You just, you were not interested. You missed out, you didn't get the chance. - No, I was injured and in the countryside in Galicia. I would have gone to the cinema to see it. - It's heavily influenced by Alien Isolation, the game that came out, however many years ago. - Which is sorry for-- - But you were a fan of. - Yeah, yeah, it's like a follow up to the first Alien film. And this is a sequel to Alien Romulus here. It's got a lot of great ideas. There's certain scenes which are unlike anything else you've seen throughout the Alien series. So it's got a lot going for it. It's got a young cast that are good. Some of them are really British in a way. When you see in the trailer, one of them is going like, "There's something in the water." Something in the water where you're like, "I don't know if I can take like a space cock knee to that level." But yeah, no, no, it's a good film, but there's at least three moments in the film where I was like, "Ah, it's kind of annoying. I wish they hadn't done that." There's one really, really, really, really bad one, which I'll give you this spoiler 'cause it doesn't do anything for the plot. But one of the characters says to one of the aliens, "Get away from her, you bitch." There's no reason whatsoever, and it-- No, we know the reason. We know the reason. It's painful. It's painful to watch. And you're like, "You just even just cut off the last couple of words would have been fine, but it just made zero sense for the character to say it." So that's the biggest strike against it. So if you could edit that out, a couple of other things like that, just really small things that you're kind of like, "Ah, that's a bit silly." But beyond that, it's a solid film. Well worth watching. I saw an IMAX, looked great. That was a nice atmospheric film. I've got two more first watches, and they're both things that I really, really enjoyed. Well, in that case, let me, I'll just kind of fucking listen to things. - Yeah, you've got-- - I'll leave out things I want to talk about. So I watched Ronan still great, even though they take great further-- - That's great. - Ronan and Keating documentary. They're Ronan Keating documentary. They take credit for the Northern Ireland peace process in a radio audio over at the end of the movie. I had never noticed that before. It's very funny. It's very funny. - That's how that happened. - Yeah, exactly. - It was why-- - Got it. - What color is the-- - What color is-- - No, no, no. What color is the boat house at Hereford? That's the one thing about that film that I don't like is he doesn't know how to say "I referred." He works for the CIA. Come on. - I really enjoyed it. - I thought it was great. Also, it was still in the era where it was okay for a super old guy like Robert De Niro to be the love interest for Natasha McElion, who was-- - That's fine. - In that year, one of the most beautiful people on the planet. Okay, we watched Munich, so fear, you know, that Merrick Walberg reached with his buddy. - Yeah, where he hits his chest, standing outside the house. - So fun. So fun. I had so-- - Did he go on like a rollercoaster? - We really enjoyed it. - Finger hurt. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Classic. - It's great fun that movie. I thought I really enjoyed it. Spielberg, the Spielberg documentary, that was fun. Fistful of dollars, sky walkers, a love story. Terrible, hated that for a few dollars more. Red, the high country, happy death day, ET. Okay, now I'll pick something that I actually wanna talk about. Talk to me. Have you seen this? - No, and then I went through and like read the plot synopsis and I was like, why did I do that? I should have just watched it. I will eventually watch it by which-- - Boy, I read it from myself. Okay, good. - It's quite experiential. I bet you wouldn't remember the plot. - I know it's gonna be very scary when I get the headphones on and everything. - It's very scary. That's what I was gonna say. It's really like, I had to go downstairs in the middle of the night to take a peek. - You shot it. - That kind of scary, like, it was, yeah, yeah, that's a very, very scary film. I would, and I would recommend people not do what Andy did. Just don't look it up. Just check it out. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't read any plot synopsis. This is just me being stupid. - And I'll give one more before I hand you back the mic, sir. I watched "How to Have Sex." Turns out I've been doing it wrong. It's supposed to be guys in my bum. - I see. - No, it makes sense. - No, no, no, it was this British film about like these girls that go on a holiday to Reese. I started out, started out it was kind of like, ah, God, everybody's so fucking young and so it was kind of bugging me just by causing who they were. But the central performance in it is so good and I think it actually has some real interesting things to say about the way I think culture has generally forced people to approach sexuality on other people's terms instead of their own. By the end of it, I was really moved and like this sort of theme is something I've been thinking about for years. I think it has actually really damaged society and I think in a really subtle way, this film makes a really strong point. So I thought that was great. - You go on, what is it set? - No, it's a nice, no, I feel like it should be mid 90s. - It may be, but then everyone's got camera phones and shit like that as well, you know? - That makes it so complex. (laughing) Yeah, yeah, there we go. - So I watched two films that I really, really enjoyed. I saved the best for last, at least in my, well, okay, maybe not exactly. You know, they're both things that I rated four stars each and gave little love hearts on Letterbox. So you know, it's a real deal. The first one is Vengeance. - Oh yeah, you texted me about that. - Yeah, 'cause I really, really, really enjoyed it. It's a 2022 film from Ryan from The Office. - Sweet. - B.J. Novak's. And he's like this podcaster who gets a call from the brother of some girl that he was hooking up with and she's just been murdered down in Texas. And so he goes and tries to make this sort of true crime series, this like true crime thing and solve her murder. But it's really, I find it's darkly funny. I find it really, really funny. But also moving in places. I was surprised how much it moved me. Really liked the soundtrack as well. So I would heartily recommend it. I think it's a kind of thing that I just started watching it and I was immediately like totally gripped. It was a lot easier than watching five hours of people planning or in the world. - Well, can we get, just tell us what you really think. Fucking, yeah, I secured that on DVD for myself. The second you told me about it. Hold on, because like, just basically you and I out. I watched Adam Sandler's latest special, Love You. It's his same old goofy stuff from his last special. If you're into Sandler, you'll love it. If not, you won't. It's directed by Josh Safdie. It's got maybe the best, you know, like a dramatic intro to a stand-up special? Not maybe the best, easily the best, one of those that's ever been shot. So it's Sandman making his way into the comedy club and people bothering him for all their graphs and things like that. And it's so well done. It's worth the price of mission alone. But then, of course, as with the last special, he ends on an emotional song and gives a shout out to Norm McDonald's. So I was all like, (laughs) that quite got me in the fields. Then on another Adam Sandler kick, I watched his animated movie, The Happy Medicines last year, Leo. Have you seen this? - Yeah, I've never heard of it. - Watched it with Aaron, so good. So it's about a classroom pet who's like a lizard and he's in a tank with a tortoise who's voiced by Bill Burr, who's excellent in it. And basically, he learns that he might be reaching the end of his natural lifespan. So he starts panicking, trying to escape and gets enthusiastic to get brought home by kids. Then he gradually, in his tricks to try and escape, he reveals to the kids that he's able to talk and gives them all advice about their lives and how to sort themselves out. It's a wonderful fellow. I can't, like one of those kids movies that you're like you've fucking nailed it. And there's heaps of jokes that obviously only adults would get, but also my daughter was just cackling. That's one thing now that I have to say, like I really love it when a movie makes my daughter laugh. I really, really like that. - She'd have her watch Vengeance. She might like it. - Might never watch Vengeance. Doctors in plain sight is shite. Exorcist 2 is shite in an interesting way. Anybody, have you ever seen that? - Which Exorcist 2, no, no. - It's mental. I mean, you can see that the part of John Borman's mind that this came out of his- - Oh, it was John Borman, oh god. - It's the exact same place that Zardos came out of. - Nice. - Cody would have chanced pants. - Cody would have chanced meatballs. It's actually a bit shit. - That's a shame. I enjoyed that. - Not a fan. - I could imagine his age burly though. - Just too many jokes. And there's actually a good story in the middle of this. - These are serious meatballs should be serious. But no, they keep the jokes, but just like- - Relent a little bit when we're trying to do the father-son relationship. Nearly there, something about Mary rewatched, obviously five stairs after sun, obviously five stairs still devastating. Out of sight, amazing. Look, I finally get why people say that was shite. That's fucking shite. - Never shite. - It's really bad. - I will never watch it unless first. - Spider-Man 2 is maybe the best superhero movie. - Well, no, I probably still prefer Superman 2, but my God, it's good. Titanic, amazing, the Goonies shite. And we'll write up to, but the Goonies is kind of shite. - I watched it maybe last, or not last Christmas, the Christmas before I rewatched the Goonies. - And how'd you find it? - Not as bad as I feared it was gonna be. I was expecting worse. So I thought it was slightly better than shite. - 'Cause the thing is, it's like it's one of those movies that I had watched a bunch when I was a kid and then when it started getting this iconic status, as a film fan I was going, it's not that good, guys. - No, of course. - It's not E.T, it's not Indiana Jones. There's a million other movies you should be iconic about, not the fucking Goonies. And then leading into one of this week's movies, I rewatched My Best Fiend, which is a great movie. - Oh, yeah. - What was your last one? - Yeah, my last one, it's a very, this is recent. This is recent. Netflix film Jeremy Sonier, apparently it's pronounced. I still have not filmed. - Oh, yeah. - I still wanna go and start it for Jeremy Sonier. But yeah, his new film, Rebel Ridge, starring Aaron Pierre as Black Reacher. - No, how many of his films have you seen before? One of them we watched together, I think. - Only, well, okay, I don't count Murder Party. Does he count Murder Party? 'Cause I haven't seen that. - He does and doesn't. - Yeah, and I haven't seen Hold the Dark, which I would like to-- - I don't like. - Yeah, and that's why I haven't watched it 'cause most people have said they didn't like it, but I'm a huge fan of Blue Room and Green Room, which we do. - Me too. - Green Room and the cinema, I remember many years ago. - Yeah. - And yeah. - Big fan of both those. - So this is, I would say, this is definitely more in line with those two. But basically, I think when you see the name Rebel Ridge, it kind of suggests a film that this is not. So Aaron Pierre is this character. He is like a former military guy. He's trying to get his cousin out of jail. He ends up in this sort of backwater, southern town, and they run him off the road and take his bail money, and then he has to get it back and solve the whole situation. And he uses non-lethal or like less, they call it less lethal means. - That's one. - It is, it's a great film. It's well worth watching. Maybe he loses it, right? - It loses some, it loses a bit of steam towards the end. Yeah, it's got old Don Johnson playing the evil boss guy, which we've seen in a few things like the Watchman TV show. - Yeah. - So yeah. - I really recommend it. I would definitely recommend Rebel Ridge. - For me, at the moment, I think his best film is Green Room. Would you say it's better than Green Room? - It's different. I think a lot more went into Rebel Ridge than into Green Room. Like Rebel Ridge is a much more complex shoot. But I've heard the action sequence are really interestingly done. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, I really liked Green Room and I'd like to rewatch that 'cause I haven't seen it for a while. - I've seen that. I was obsessed with Blue Room the year it came out. - Yeah, I remember. - I was like, I was writing reviews from magazines at the time and they sent me a copy of that online to watch in my apartment. And the end, you remember in the end what he's hiding out in the house, yeah? I was so fucking tense with it. I started just trying to find a plot synopsis on the internet just to get, I couldn't find one. I had to live through it. But I thought that was incredible. So the first time I saw Green Room, I was like, oh, he's doing his kind of stick again, but I still sort of preferred Blue Room in my mind. But then just like, I think I watched them both in close proximity and let me tell you just like Green Room as a setup and how well it's executed. - I mean, it's amazing that film. The way Green Room opens on an open road and then gradually just confines them to this room which you don't see outside of for about 40 minutes of the film. There's just hands reaching in and shit, it's crazy. - I need to see it again. - Now, I think I should give my opinion on until the end of the world first 'cause you've kind of given yours already. - Mm-hmm, see. - So until the end of the world, this globe-trotting supposed to be the ultimate road movie. Normally when a film is four hours, 47 minutes long, you'd expect it to be unbelievably pretentious in every sense. I don't think this is actually. What is unusual about this is that there's this highly commercial idea for a movie dressed up in this, in one sense, unnecessarily expansive, but then when I hear that there was a sub three-hour cut of this movie, it's shot in such a way. It's so languid that you're like, yeah, I bet the three-hour cut is kind of a bit crap and truncated actually. Now, the thing is, but that's, I'm not saying that you could not make that, you could make a two-hour movie with this story, I would say. Really, but the way he shoots it, he shoots it in his kind of Paris, Texas mode, with all these sort of long globe-trotting shots and stuff. The thing is, because I was putting this off for ages and I knew it was a four-hour, 47 movie, I never kind of got properly into the mode of, this is too fucking long, because I knew it was too fucking long before I went in. So I sort of just sat into it and in the end, I think it explores quite interesting ideas way ahead of its time. Oh, definitely, yeah. Incredibly so, it was made in fucking 1991, there's a very good soundtrack. It is impossible to, what a mini-series this might have made is would be my main comment. Like, you're making faces, the people on the-- Yeah, I'm making faces. 'Cause I'm not jumping in. I'm not jumping in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, which, good for you, fair play. Thanks. But I, let me put it like this. I heard him in an interview saying this is his magnum opus and he's his masterpiece, so he doesn't feel any great, like, now he's just playing around when he makes movies, 'cause he thinks he's said his definitive statement. That might be true, but I've seen at least three Wim Wenders films that I prefer to this, but I just think it's so strange because there's such ideas here, but it is ripe for a remake, even. But then how could you do that? It's, I don't know, it's just, it's an interesting thing that I'll never watch again. There you go, what are you thinking? I mean, okay, Paris, Texas is two and a half hours long. Yes, and it seems long when you're watching it. Yeah, and until the end of the world is almost double. Yeah. It's five hours. I mean, it is, there's a lot of interesting ideas, like he said, and that carries a lot of the film, and there was times where I was dipping out of it, and then something interesting happened, and I was, you know, that kind of brought me back on board, but it does have the feel of a massive vanity project. It's got the feel of like an early '90s music video, and, you know, supposedly that's part of the reason of why it's so long was 'cause he wanted to include all the songs from the bands that he'd reached out to and asked, hey, could you write a song for my film? And so, you know, that doesn't, that does not a good film make. It's, as it does, there's a lot of interesting imagery. It's beautiful, it looks great. You know, the first hour of the film feels like the first half of a movie. That's how you know that, like, because it's like I said, I just never, I saw the running time. Of course, this is too long. This is way too long. So I never was thinking this is too long when I'm watching it, because I'm watching something that's too long. Do you know what I mean? That's what I'm sitting down to. - I remember being three hours into this and going, how the fuck are there two more hours to go? - Yeah, dude, dude, is that impossible? - I was doing that a half an hour from the end. I was like, what are we doing for the next half an hour? - What's there still to do? - Yeah, I don't think it's, okay. So, I mean, I don't think it helps the main actress and co-writer Sol Vig, Dolmartan, she's not, she wasn't exactly the greatest actress in the world. Listen, I mean-- - No, there's something strange going on there because she doesn't give a good performance, right? I don't think she's a good actor. But at the same time, she seems like she really cares about everything that's going on. - Yeah, because she's a co-wrote the film. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she looks like a normal person also, which helps the film. - Yeah, she certainly looks like she's from that world, like she looks like she should be in that film. But she's also like, at the time she was around 30, she looks way older to me. - Yeah. - She also didn't really go on to do anything else and then died quite young. She died in the 40s. - She died in 40s. - Yeah, like, I mean, and there's also, I can't find anything about her death or her life after this. She just disappeared. - I've got, like, who was she, really? She was in a couple of things in there. - And then there's this girlfriend. - Yeah, I guess. And then, so that feels like one of those things where he's like, listen, you want to write a film with me and you could be in it. Why not? We'll just do that. - That's it, right Neil. We'll get Billy Hurt. We'll get Maxow on SeaDive. - So much plot to go on here. We can just discuss things. - Oh, there they go. Come on, come on now. - How much plot is there? There's not that much plot. - No, well, that's in five hours of time. - That's true. - Is there five hours of plot? - I don't know. - No, no, there is not. So Claire wakes up in what seems to be Berlin and her boyfriend, Sam Neil's gene, who's a bit of an Albert Brooks, an intellectual Albert Brooks, a supercock. - But is he cheated on her, is that the thing? - Yeah, with the Makigo. - Okay. - Right, so he's cheated on her and she's a bit bummed out by that. So she's just floating around between parties. She's your manic, pixie dream girl, let's say. Then she's driving through the French country, so this guy throws a bottle of beer at the window. That's pretty funny. And they're gonna give her a lift to the next place. And she discovers that they've just robbed a bank, so she's got all this money. That could have probably been caught, except he keeps appearing. - But it's like, yeah, I mean, they could have cut the older guy, but then the younger drummer guy, Chico, he's in it till the end. - But this is the fun world. - This is the funny thing is that whenever you look, this way I was thinking a three hour cut is unthinkable, 'cause whenever you try and think of something they could cut out, no, because it's all linked the whole way through. Everything fucking comes back and all of this shit. Makiko, they could have probably caught Makiko now, to be fair. - I don't think it's cutting. I think it's just cutting scenes where people are looking out of a window. I mean, it is nice. You get, like, again, and we've this, we're back to the old classics of things we've said a million times, seeing a time and a place on film. - Yeah, yeah, great fun. - You're getting a sense. This is like a five hour YouTube video of, it's like a five hour YouTube music video from 1991. - What was your favorite place that they visited to see? - Well, there was, I mean, I find myself watching this going like, okay, yeah, so like the streets of Lisbon, I was looking like they were just up, they walked up the street from like where I used to live. I lived there for like a year. So there was a few things like that where I was like, okay, I've been there, I've recognized this place. I used to live there and stuff like that, which again, obviously if I'd seen this when it came out, that wouldn't have been the case. So for me, it was like when we watched "To the Wonder," there was elements of that for me where I could, while all this imagery was happening and there's not a lot of plot, I could think about my own life and sort of superimpose myself onto the characters a little. I was a naked French lady. Who's also crazy and cheating on you with skinny Pete. - I said French lady. Go ahead. - Oh, yeah, that's right. - So then fucking, yeah, she's got this money. Then there's this guy next to her at a payphone, but the payphones are like video phones and stuff like that. - The payphones are exactly what people thought the future was getting like in their early nights. - Yeah, they got, I mean, that's some of the best stuff, I think, is like some of the tech, which now looks really old school, but has similar functions to what-- - Conceptually what we use now. - They're dead on, yeah, yeah, absolutely. - Yeah, yeah, they nailed a lot of things. - And like poetically at the end, the effect that this kind of thing has on stuff is stuff that people are talking about now. - Yeah, I mean, when we get towards the end of the film, but all this, when the final 30 minutes of where they're watching the dreams, and then just they're kind of can't live in the world 'cause they're so focused on watching their own dreams, I mean, you do see a bit of that where you're like, that's like most people with a phone nowadays, yeah. - Yeah, absolutely, Lord knows how they're like, I mean, it's crazy, to be fair now, in the Deacon's interview I heard with him, he was pretty chuffed at having predicted a lot of that stuff. - Fair play. - But anyway, yeah, so William Hart is next to her. God damn, you just, when you see William Hart, particularly back then, you're just like, ah, this is why he was just shagging all around him all the time, like he's a very good-looking man, William Hart. - It's crazy how many of these people are dead. - Yeah, yeah, do you know what I was watching it? And he pops up and then I remember the last scene in broadcast news, you know, when not the last last scene, his last scene with Holly Hunter, where she, they split up at the airport. Like I was just looking at William Hart and this, and he's so good looking. I was thinking, Holly Hunter probably got onto the plane and cried all the way to Maui, and William Hart probably walked out the front of the airport, dumped the flowers and said, "Where's the next lady?" I'm gonna run her life very quick. Anyway, fucking Claire falls for this guy immediately. She's like, "I'm tracking this fucker down for some reason." And there's another, there's an aboriginally detective following him also. So she ends up giving him a lift and he steals some money from her. So she's like, "I'm gonna get my money back." All the while, she's still in touch with intellectual Albert Brooks back in Berlin. There's Jean, but Sam Neil's character. She hired as a private detective, they go to China. He's losing his memory. Eventually they hook up. No, no, well, first of all, they go to Los Angeles, don't they? - Man, the fuck else, what's the way? They go to Moscow. - There's been. - They go to Tokyo. - Oh, they go to Moscow, that's right. - They go to a few places. - They go to San Francisco. - San Francisco. And then they go to Australia. - San Francisco, to Australia. And all the while, Sam Neil has teamed up with this private detective who's in all the "Vinwenders" movies that land. - Ridicar Volgar, yeah. - And then eventually they get down to Australia. There's a bit of a chase across Australia. And eventually they all end up at this place where Sam's family is, and him and Claire are all about him. - The whole point, the whole end of the world thing is that there's a satellite up in space. - Ah, yes, some veterans. - Chinese are an Indian satellite. - Indian satellite, Indian satellite. - The USA blew it up. And so that happens about three hours into the five-hour cut. - Yeah, so everybody, because they're in the desert, they don't know what the situation is, and if the radiation is polluted, the atmosphere. - Yeah, just all their tech, a big like EMP pulse wave thing, knocks at all the tech, so they, you know. - And then Sam Neil loses his novel, so he's started again on typewriter, which is very thematically tied in. - So anyway, they're stuck in this place out in the middle of nowhere, and you discover that these weird videos that Sam was trying to make is, his father has invented this thing whereby you can make blind people see through their brainwaves. So they record the brainwaves you had when you saw an image and record the video at the same time, and you try and tie it all up. Sam can't do it, Claire can. The mother sees a little bit, it's okay, but it's a copy of a copy of a copy, and eventually she just finds it a little bit depressing. - And she dies despondent. - dies. - But then the actual potential use of the technology reveals itself, and it's to see people's dreams and thoughts. - See your own dreams. - So Max von Sidhu, who Sam's father gets addicted to his own dreams as does Claire as does Sam. Meanwhile, Sam Neil is there writing his novel on a typewriter, laying music. You gotta admit, even that late in the movie, those music sequences are great. I think those really just. - Yeah, I mean, as you said, it's a great soundtrack of the era, like basically vendors got all of his favorite artists. - But like, I did quite, like there's that one sequence where Sam Neil goes, and then I realized the point of all of the journey we went on is just to play this music right now. And I was like, that's actually, that's quite a nice idea based on how they're all getting stuck up all their own arses in screens and recording their dreams and things like that. And it's like you've just been writing books like a normal person. - Just in the moment a little bit. And like that, like, I don't know music, like because the cool thing about the music sequences near the end, okay, so you basically, this guy starts trying to show another guy how to play a didgeridoo. And before they know what the didgeridoo is playing along with the piano. And then as it goes on, it's a full band sort of a thing. Anyway, they all get addicted to stuff. - Sam eventually gets off. How does William Hart get off of his dream addiction? - Don't remember how the addiction ends at all. So I mean, wait, well, so his dad, max one CDow gets taken away by the CIA. And Sam Neil takes Claire, takes the lady away. And basically-- - Locks her up. - I don't remember what happens with... We don't see, wait, I thought she doesn't see William Hart again, I thought. - No, she doesn't. - 'Cause he just writes a scene in his novel, Sam Neil writes a scene in his novel going like, yeah, and then they say goodbye in the San Francisco bar, but it's not what really happened. So, you know, fuck him, it's William Hart. - Yeah, indeed. And then what he gives Claire his book to read and she rediscovers herself. And then she goes up to work on a satellite and they all call her the same happy birthday. And that's the end. - And I don't think I hated it nearly as much as you. - I don't think I, I mean, I like to, but I mean, talk about overstaying your welcome. Here's, oh, this was the thing that where I was making a face earlier is when you were talking about being, it could be split into like a mini series. I couldn't find break points that would make like an interesting enough, this could be an episode, there was nothing episodic. - No, no, I don't think you could, don't get me wrong, I don't think you could split the cut as it is into a mini series. I think the idea, and if you wanna do the global trapping thing, you'd need different scripts, basically. - 'Cause I feel like the serious part of the idea is never really explored. It does because it's so sort of like magical realism in places, I don't think it cares about blowing up a satellite EMP or things like that. Like the world doesn't feel real enough. Or maybe it's just 'cause it was 1991, how you know, set in 1999, like the future of the past. It doesn't feel real enough to really dive into a lot of that stuff. - One thing that kind of struck me hearing about us was it's one of those occasions where, hearing about the production side of it, it's one of those occasions where you really, I sympathize with the backers on this movie because he got, okay, so he got three million off the Australian government and then 20 million off three or four other financiers, yeah? He was coming off low budget films that basically made double what they cost total, Harris, Texas and Wings of Desire. They were like little indie darlings, yeah? And he had this script that he'd been prepping since the '70s and he was able to drumming up his money and then he presented them with something. - No, there's rumors that are clearly bullshit that he presented a 20-hour cut, there's just no way that's true. I would imagine, no, there's-- - But he wouldn't have taken that to them, but he might have had a 20-hour cut. - Can you imagine being like financial backers being faced with a-- - And going, I'm gonna put my lady in it and it's five hours long. - Five-hour cut and then they truncated it down to three hours and the thing is, is like this film is shot in such a way that it's gonna be five hours. - I don't know, I would be interested, I'm never gonna watch the three-hour cut, I'm sorry. There's no way I'm ever gonna watch the three-hour cut. Vendors calls it the Reader's Digest version, but I don't know, I guess in most places, it's kind of rated by like, I think it's 6.9 on IMDB, but I don't know, I think there's something to be said for the three-hour version that I haven't seen. - I ain't got much on cast. As you said, there's not much to discover about this lady. - It's not to be William R. We talked about William R. He's a bad man. - No one knows, she died. Eddie Mitchell was a musician most of his life, pretty decent one actually. And he went, he, when he tried to make it in Britain, he got loads of support from the likes of Jimmy Page and some other people, but it never quite took off unless the guy played Raymond the old guy. - Adele Loz is the lady who played Makiko and she also designed David Burns as a get-up for stop-making sense. - Yeah, she was married to David Byrne, right? - Yeah, yeah, that's right. - And she was in a film that's relevant to the moment, Beetlejuice, she was in the first Beetlejuice playing. - That's right, she wasn't the first Beetlejuice. - She was, yeah, yeah. Have you seen that? I'm not sure you would've brought it up. - I've seen the first one, I haven't seen Beetlejuice. - But apparently it's decent. - Yeah. - I've heard it died, not. - I don't care enough to go to the cinema to watch it. - One of the Australian leads is called Ernie Dingo and-- - Spat. - Yeah, yeah, that's all I got on him. It's pretty cool. - That's good, that's enough. - That's enough. - Sam Neil has cancer and remission and I reckon he's gonna be on chemo once a month for the rest of his life. Did you know that? - That's not great, I did know that. - He's also born in Ireland. - That's right. - Yeah, there you go. - Wasn't he from Northern Ireland or isn't he from Northern Ireland? - Yeah, he is, he's from Olma. - Yeah, I just called Ireland. - That's not still Ireland, okay, just checking. I thought it's United Kingdom, but go ahead. - The guy from Tokyo stories in this fair playroom. - Oh yeah, that's right, Chishu Ryu. - Yeah, indeed. The guy who plays the car salesman who robs them studied acting with Quentin Tarantino, they're called Alan Garfield. - Alan Garfield, yeah. - Yeah, indeed. - We've got David Goldpilil, who is in Waterloo. - In every Australian film ever. They're like, we need an Aborigini guy. Let's get the one guy. - He's in your favorite film, Australia. - Yeah, that's correct, yeah. Which I got hold of the series of that far away downs. I haven't watched it. - You're not gonna watch that, no way. - I may well watch the reimagining of Australia. - And Jean Morro. - We talked about her not that long ago, I remember. - Oh, we did, actually, yeah, yeah, yeah. - No, no, I was thinking of Jean Seaburg, actually. Never mind. - Yeah, hold on. I had some long Jean Morro. - Was that evidence? - She was married to a little Friedkin, which, fair play, talented man. - For two whole years. - Indeed, yeah. Orson Welles said she was the greatest actress in the world, but she also signed a petition for Ron Polanski, but sure, who didn't? Everybody signed those petitions, you know. - Like, pro him or against him? - But then this, pro him, of course. Everyone's pro him, but then there's this thing. It's, it might just be a writing mistake in her Wikipedia, but her body was discovered by her cleaning maids shortly before her death. - She said she felt abandoned because she could not act. Okay, all right. - All right, I think we should be reading more into that maid. I think she could be involved in this. - Indeed, yeah. And Max Von Sidhu then. - He was only like about 60 or something when this came out. He was just an old man, or old forever. - They confused everybody by making them all old for the exorcist. - Wow. - That's what it was. - It's been old forever. - Well, anyway, that poor fella. So he was doing an interview and they were like, "Do you believe in God?" And he says, "Well, Ingman Bergman did." And I says, "Well, sure, once you get in contact with me "and so then I'll know if it's real." And the guy's like, "And did he?" And he goes, "Yeah, but I'm not gonna talk anymore about that." That's funny because Max Von Sidhu came to me recently. - In a dream? - In a dream. - What do you say? - I don't know. I don't speak Swedish or whatever. - So what'd you give this one? Three out of five? - Yeah, which is, I mean, I give it three out of five hours. - That was as long as I paid attention for it. The final two hours is a bit sort of hazy for me there. All the, because I sometimes do this. I flick through a film just before I watch it, just to get a sense of some of the images. - Not too far away. - Not too far away or anything like that. So I was flicking through this film in about halfway through. I was like, all right, they're in Australia. I flick through a bit more and I'm like, they're in Australia, they're in Australia. I didn't realize like half the film there, you know, is in one place. - That's why they give them all that money. - Yeah, go to Australia. Speak to David Goldfield. - So yeah, I guess I like overall, I think I'd probably end up giving it three stars. - Barry Moff. - What about you? - I probably were on the same, yeah, but at the same time. - It's hard, it's hard going. - Yeah, it is hard going, but it's kind of like, I don't know, I've seen things that I consider bizarrely long and pretentious and shit. And I don't quite think this is it. I think there's kind of, I feel on what, I'll tell you what, I've seen wings of desire. I think that's a bit pretentious. - Okay. - But I feel like this, I don't know. I think he got into this for the right reasons, that if that makes any sense. I wanted to listen to some songs from Bono. - Wait, I'm not a U2 fan, but I like that song in the end. - Bono, you're a rubbish. - Very good, is that Italian or something? - No, he is not a Bono, he is rubbish. - What's that? - Al Parget. - I can't remember it. Anyway. - How's the edge, the edge is fine. - These are the guys from RTE, is it? - Yeah. - So surely, you've got a better opinion of Werner Herzog's film, Fitzcarraldo. - Yes. Well, I mean, it's half, it's half the film, but way more of a film, of a functioning film. I mean, there are some similarities here. I could see why these could get thrown in together, apart from, you know, like German new wave guys. But it's similar, like, it's a mad old film, this one also, but for-- - With totally different reasons. - With mad old ideas, did you seen it before? - No, no, so all I knew was that someone was transporting a boat over the top of a hill. Andy, all due respect, what more do you need to know? - That's the film, that's literally the film. There's nothing, and they did it. And they literally took a boat from one little river across to the other river over a reasonably high piece of land. I mean, they did it for real. And that's kind of all there is to say about that. - I saw this years ago, and I think I saw it 'cause it was, you know, important. And I remember the different sequences of it. And I think this is the first, so this may be the second time I've ever seen it. And so I just kind of just sat down, sank into watch it. And it could be an age thing, or a maturity thing, or something like that. But I think it's kind of more than that. I think this is a genuinely brilliant. I also thought it's really fun. It moves along at a nice clip. Even though the action is kind of really slow, the action is actually happening. So there's a real tension to it when they're doing the boat stuff. - Yeah, there is something happening, yeah. - I was expecting this to be a bit of a slog, probably from when I watched it when I was younger, but I thought it was absolutely brilliant. I really, really loved it now. I had so much fun watching this. - Yeah, I mean, now you're making me think of things like sorcerer for that. Like it's like a huge physical undertaking. I mean, this also feels like Wrath of God part two, a little bit. - But it's much more fun than that. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's much more focused than that in spite of being two and a half hours long. But it does feel like it's actually telling like a relevant story with like real characters. I mean, it's based on a real guy, apart from anything, but like, you know, it feels like they've really captured the place and time of that early 20th century. - But also, it's just really something of, by the way, it turns out 1980 Peru can easily pass for 1900 Peru. But no, it's just the fact that like when the idea really crystallizes for you, what the point of the whole film is. And the point of the whole film is this exact same as the point of Fitzcarraldo doing that at all. He, why does he want to bring opera because opera is excess and beautiful and crazy. And it's the most-- - The mental. - It's the most intense stuff we can feel. And the only way he can think to do that is this mental idea. And in the end, the only, in the end, even though his plot doesn't work, the fact that he got the boat over the mountain is it. That's the whole point anyway. You got the boat over the mountain. There's some bullshit in there about rubber trees and shit like that. But really, it was about getting the boat over the mountain. And he gets the opera to the town in the end anyway, but oh God, I thought this was great fun now, to be honest. Really had a laugh with it. - Yeah, it's just so funny though, that like the originally, you know, Herzog originally cast Jason Robards. - Yes, and there was a pair for him. - And he got sick, yeah, Jagger was at it as well. I mean like-- - Have you seen that footage? - I saw that I watched a bit of that dock, the 1980s. - Bird and dream. - Yeah, bird and a dream. So I watched a bit of it, mainly because I just wanted to see the footage of those two together. And yeah, that looks like a completely different film. Like the idea that you can just sub in Klaus Kinsky. Like only Herzog could do that. Just sub in a German guy to play a character that was very clearly not German. - But isn't Kinsky really good in this? - He is, but he's being himself because he's the same character and almost everything I've ever seen him in. He's playing. - Well, he's a bit angrier in a guru. - Mad guy with crazy hair. - He's a bit-- - Yeah, that's true. He does seem, he's a bit nicer in this one. - Like he's got a bit of tenderness with Claudia Cardinelli and-- - Some of the stories of him offset like the leader of the local tribe wanted to kill him. - Yes, Herzog, if they should kill Klaus Kinsky. And Herzog was like, "No." - But then you watch. So, and I would really recommend you do this. I think you'd find it interesting and my best fiend. And Kinsky was quite physically brave during the shoot. Like anytime when they were shooting anything on rapids, even if he wasn't in the scene, he'd be like, "I'm going on the boat." 'Cause it like, and there was a certain like tenderness to him when people got injured on set and he would like wanna look out for them. But then like the thing is he was, there was something wrong with Klaus Kinsky. He was a bit mental. He was a crazy person. - Yeah, we talked about it before if it's the book and his daughters and all of that stuff. - All the other unsavory stuff he got up to. - Like he was not a well man. But then if you look at the only other actor that Herzog took under his wing as a kind of a muse, it was this weird street performer called Bruno S. I recommend looking up Bruno S's face right now actually. - How do you spell the surname? - If you'd just put Bruno S and then-- - Hearts off. - Full stop. - Or a Hearts off. - Or a Hearts off. Oh yeah, Bruno S, I'd say. Bruno Schlinestein. - Now look at the picture of this guy. - Oh yeah, okay. Like he's just got something-- (laughing) - He's got like, he's got excellent eyebrow work. He's good at raising eyebrows. - I bet we're looking at the exact same pictures right now. - Yeah, but he was the Kinsky before Kinsky. Like just, that was the sort of character that Herzog was attracted to, you know? In terms of actors, he liked weirdos and it kind of worked for him in this. But yeah, anyway. - Schlinestein was mentioned in Eliot Smith's album Figure 8. - That's right, Smith. - Eliot Smith was a big fan of Bruno S, legend. Okay, fair play. - Nice, I respect by God, do I respect it? - Yeah, I mean, this is, you know, all of the final hour. It takes about 90 minutes to get to the boat, so I get to the boat going over the hill stuff. But it seems to me from the little that I've watched of the making of "Dark", it seems to me that like the story of the film and the making of the film are not that different in terms of-- - No, yeah, yeah. - Like getting the local tribe to basically move a boat from one over a hill is essentially what they did. They just hired the local tribe to actually do that. And you see in those scenes where they're like blowing up parts of the hill, like it just genuinely feels like they're scaring the shit out of the locals. - Oh, that one scene, that's an incredible shot, isn't it? - Yeah. - Because they're like, stand back and just-- - It's one of the few shots where in the film where you can't see a skyline, so it has something sort of nearly artificial about it. And then the explosions happen and you're like, whoa, nothing artificial about that at all. Those are some real-life explosions. - That seems like they were probably taking a couple of risks back in those days. But also this came out in 1982. Think about all the stuff that was coming out at the same time as they were doing this. It was like E-T. - Ah, yeah. - I mean, it's just mild to think of like what, you know, like the type of Hollywood thing that was coming out at the same time as Herzog was doing this. - Well, you got a lot of Herzog for stuff like this. I mean, it's kind of like did, hey, you know that like in the first episode of, have you ever seen Louis C.K.'s show, Louis? - Yeah. - In the first episode, there's this sequence where he-- - He gets in the helicopter at the end. - Yes, you know, his date runs away from him, gets into a helicopter and goes away. - Oh yeah, it's what's her name. Chelsea. - Manning. - The chops, yeah, exactly. That's the one. - And like he asked about that. He was like, yeah, it was incredibly expensive, but that was what was in the old head, so I had to do it. And I've read Herzog's book about the making of this. And I like, I just, like, I've always just been attracted to that aspect of his character. Like he just was thinking about a boat going over a mountain. He's like, oh, how do I do that? And that's, this is what you get in the end. - I feel like that helicopter shot from Louis was not the most expensive thing he's had in his head in terms of expense for his career. - Oh, oh no, come on. - Oh, come on, wanking. - Yeah, you're talking about wanking. At talented comedians who couldn't really rock the comedy world, had they not been wanked up. - You're so sarcastic, why does that sound-- - No, you're making me sound like I'm being mean, I'm not being mean. - Okay. - Not being mean. Did you think Claudia Cardinelli was attractive in this? - Yes, I thought you seemed like a very nice lady. I was not familiar with her particularly. And she was in Rocco and his brothers. I don't remember her in that. I didn't watch the original Rocco and his brothers. The one I saw had Rocco Sefredi in it. - She's in him, she's in one's upon a time in the west. She's the incredible hot piece to us. - Is that the only place for her? She was also in 18, she was in eight and a half. - I watched seven. - Pretty good, I only saw mine. - Keeps making that stupid joke every time. I'm gonna go into a bit of the plot then, if it's crap. - I do, so there's a guy. His name is Fitzcarraldo. - Yes, Brian Sweet comes Gerald's, they can't even say his name right, probably because of his German. - And they're like, why are you basically Irish? Why does your name sound so Irish if you're a German man with crazy hair? He's a big fan of opera, he loves the opera. - He loves Caruso, yeah. - Caruso, Enrico Caruso, his favorite Italian tenor. Who's your favorite Italian tenor? - I would go with Luciano Pavarotti. - Yeah, that's the only one, that's the correct answer. That's the one there is. So this guy, Fitzcarral, Fitzcarraldo, he's a rubber baron. He wants to get all that sweets. - He's made of what? - To rubber, he's a rubber baron. He wants to get all that sweet, sweet rubber out of trees. - Sweet, yeah. - And he's running up against a bunch of other rubber barons and they own all this land inside the America in Peru and in the Amazon basin. - Like my great, great uncle or something, a guy called Taylor Ternan. He went off to the Amazon and made a bunch of money in Peru. - That can't be real. - That's true, yeah, Taylor Ternan. - All right, well, my granddad, Adolf Ritchie, anyway. So he, Fitzcarraldo has a plan and his plan is to take a boat up a river and then get a bunch of people to carry it over the other side of a bit of land to stick it in another river, basically so that he can get rubber from rubber trees and he's gonna bypass a bunch of these other guys plots of land. He's trying not to like, that's a thing, right? There's this bit of unclaimed land and he's gonna go and get the rubber from it. And he's gonna set up like his own, it's own little town somewhere and then he's gonna be able to bring the rubber back and make a ton of cash. - And build an opera house. - And build an opera house 'cause it's all about bringing opera to the jungle, bringing opera to the people. 'Cause it's opera. - Exactly what the jungle needs. - The matter, yeah. Welcome to the jungle. So he buys this steam ship. It's, he christens it the SS, Molly Eider. And his big rival sends a guy alongside to go with the boat, which I look quite like that he straight up just says to him like, yeah, you have to take this guy with the boat because obviously like, I need someone to spy on you. Like directly says, I need a guy to like spy on you and make sure that, you know, you're not up to no goods. - Shenanigans. - Yeah, so then they take the boat upstream. They come across a local tribe who-- - Yeah, most of the crew abandon them. - Yeah, a bunch of people shout it. They come up against this local tribe who are kind of playing music and stuff like that or making noise, playing their music. - So then Klaus, old Klaus Kinsky gets his opera. He busts out his opera to soothe the savage. What do they call them? - Oh, the bear asses. - Bear bear asses. Those pesky bear asses are soothed by their favorite opera in Rico Caruso, their favorite Italian tenor. And so after going up the river and meeting the local tribe, they managed to convince a bunch of the local Indians to help them take this 300 ton steamship up one side of the hill and down the other one. And it's a huge thing. They have to chop down all the trees. They have to whack the boat on the trees. They have to do a whole police system. They have to blow parts of the hill to pieces and shit like that. - Got to kill two guys? - Yeah, they have to crush a couple of guys under the boat because you have to kill a guy. You have to kill at least some local workers. Otherwise, the thing that you've done doesn't... If no one died, what's the point? - Where's the ethos? - Like building stadiums in the Middle East. You need some people to die. So they successfully do that. They manage to get the boat down to the other side. It's fun times. It's big. Everything is all good. - They all get wankered on fermented stuff. - As they should. And then Fitzgerald takes the boat back down river and they end up drifting into the rapids, which they'd been trying to avoid previously. They go into the rapids and... - The sequence, that. - Yeah, yeah, which apparently was done with miniatures. - There's one part that's done with the miniature. If you know beforehand, you can easily spot it. - I just assumed the whole thing was done with miniatures. I was like, you can't be put in the boat in the rapids. - Ah, no, no, no. They did some real dangerous shooting in this. - Okay, fair play. I read that's when some people got injured if it was in the rapids part. It would be bad if they got injured. If it was miniatures, that wouldn't make a lot of sense. - Yeah, it's just gonna go out. - Yeah, they got splinters real bad. - Yeah, so they get caught up in the rapids. The ship does not sustain any major damage, but Fitska Aldo is forced to abandon his quest. He ends up going, he goes back to the town where he started out from. He's not having a good time. He's not too happy. But eventually he gets his case kind of happy ending. His whole business idea is not gonna work. But what he's going to happen is he brings opera to the people. - And they love it. - He brings a nice, they set up an opera on the deck of the ship. And he sails down the river and makes all the people listen to opera. They love it, they do, yeah. 'Cause there's a scene early on with a bunch of kids and a pig around his bed. - Yeah, that's right, yeah. - I love that sequence where he rose across the water and goes into his weird little house. - Yeah, and he says to the pig, what does he say to the pig? He says something like, "I'm gonna make you a star." - I'm gonna give you a red velvet chair and the best balcony. - I'm gonna make you, you're gonna be the best pig in all of Peru. - It does feel crazy to me that you could just, like even in 1982, you could go and get like some local tribe to help you take a boat over a hill. Like you just had the money, like you could, he probably could have crushed people to death under the boat and it would have been like, "Wow, you know, I mean, it's okay." - I mean, Werner Herzog is, not everyone is Werner Herzog, you know? - Fair. - He's a mad man. - And also the true story, it was like the guy, the rubber baron who moved the boat, he broke it down into pieces and it only weighed, and it only weighed 30 tons. Whereas the boat that they transported was in one piece and weighed 300 tons, anyway. - Go harder, go home, you know? - That's what I say. I don't have a lot to give you on the old cast on this one. Kinsky, we've talked about a million times. Claudia Cardinale, as you said, she was in a bunch of stuff. She was a good looking lady. - Beautiful lady. - She was still alive. She was born in Tunisia for her play, good to her. - That's about it, 'cause there's a bunch of, there's a few local Brazilian guys who were in it who had horribly hard lives. - Oh, no. - And by in general, you know. - Did you recommend this film to people? - Yeah, I mean, so yeah, we said we were gonna do that. It's been such a long time since we've done an episode. I said it's a star event. - We'll do it at the start of the future. - Yeah, I was gonna say whether to watch the films or not. If you're this far through, watch Fitzgeraldo, I cannot recommend until the end of the world. I can't recommend anyone sit for five hours and watch that. - Yeah. - But two and a half hours of Fitzgeraldo, perfectly doable. - If you're anything like me, part of your ears might break up when you hear about until the end of the world and go, "Oh, maybe I should watch that now, just don't worry." Don't worry about it. This is one of those ones that we watch, so you don't have to. - What would you, what's what are we on for stars for this one? What'd you give Fitzgeraldo? - For Fitzgeraldo? I would probably give it a four, almost a four and a half, but I'll stick with a four. - See, I'm closer to somewhere 3.5 to four. I'm a little bit not as hot on it as you are. I think this is definitely in your wheelhouse of what you like more than what I like. I think you like to see the world at this time. You've mentioned before, like when the world was still big and you could go and really go on a big adventure. - Yeah, I love it when anything like that is really effectively portrayed. Like I picture this and there's probably people on the other side of the world going, whatever happened to your nephew and people are going, "I don't fucking know, I have no idea where he is." - I don't know what he's up to. - Yeah, indeed. I would recommend this one to people too, though I quite like it. - These two films are both so visual. It's one of these things where you can listen to us talk. It really does, you can't spoil Fitzgeraldo because I already knew the entire plot. Guy takes Bo over Hill. I already, you know, there's nothing, it's so visual, there's nothing to spoil there. - It is shot, so I think they're both shot really well now to be there. - Yeah. - To be like these boys born all the way around. - Yeah, I mean, until the end of the world is what's his name, Robbie Mueller, isn't it? I mean. - Yeah, he did show you did everything with vendors, I think. - So that's it, that's it. But I just think-- - I did for this week. - I'm hoping this is my one hope because I, listen, I enjoyed that. It did, it took me a little while to watch both of those things. I'm hoping that maybe we're gonna move towards something a bit more conventional, maybe, standard. - Well, you won't like what I have for some past weeks. - I know, I certainly want it. And this maybe mine is the same, who knows? - Well, I mean, we'll go full command or rewatch after this week, maybe, but my one for the task pick is the 1997 film, The Eel, the Japanese film. It's actually supposed to be pretty funny. It probably isn't, though. - It won the Palm d'Or, right? - It co-winded. - That's right, it did, yeah. - Well-- - 1997. - My film is-- - My film is-- - Sure, hey, I'm Amura. - I'm Amura-san. - I'm Amura-san. - No, my film is a bit more in line with Fitzcarraldo, I think. I didn't pay much attention to that at the time. Mine is, we watched a previous film from this guy, Chirogera. - Yeah, yeah. - We watched Embrace of the Serpent, which again, very similar to Fitzcarraldo. I've probably borrowed a little bit from that. And that's his follow-up to Embrace of the Serpent, Birds of Passage, which I believe you've already seen. - I have seen, yes, Bob. We're very happy to watch it again. - Also, I think he's semi-me too canceled. I don't know if he's-- - Oh, really? - Yeah, he's had a few things fall apart, but he also had a lot of allegations against him. I didn't realize until I looked at it. I looked him up just earlier today, and I was like, "Oh, okay." So I don't know if he, 'cause he hasn't made anything since 2019, waiting for the barbarians, so I don't know. - Okay, so we have, well, I mean, I've seen Birds of Passage. I never noticed anything shady going on in that film. - You have to look at the back of the frame. - All right, well, it's all good fun. Meanwhile, the eel, I remember I saw like the first 10 minutes of it when I was a kid, and I had to turn it off 'cause it upset me so much. - Oh, that sounds interesting. And now I'm on board if it's scared young Donica. - There we go, all right. So I believe it's your turn to toss, sir. - Well, let me get a coin. I was re-listening to, I think it was the previous episodes. I don't know, I think it was the previous episodes. I got so carried away, I think I got the toss wrong, and we chose my thing, and the toss wasn't correct. The result wasn't right. So I'm gonna pay more attention this time, right? - Oh, really? - I think so, I think we were just very tired, and we didn't want to watch the other thing anyway. - Yeah. - It's a little bit behind the current. Sometimes we get so carried away that we fuck up the toss. It's hard tossing a coin. - It is, yeah. - Well, it's head to tails for real this time. - Heads. - All right, let's try it. (laughs) - It is hard. - It's heads, that means you win, which means we're watching your film, just to clarify. - We're watching the eel, okay. - Eel. - Do you want to hear what you would have won? - Yeah, well, it goes with the bird of passage. - I would have gone for another film about like crime erupting a locality. I feel like, again, I've seen before, but not in years, and I found quite disturbing when I was younger, but I feel I might be ready for it. I've read the book. I was gonna suggest Gomorrah. - Hmm, interesting. - Gomorrah, I'm more of a sodden man myself. - What are we watching with the eel? - Well, I went for another Shouhei Yamamura film, and that's the one about Hiroshima from 1989 is called Black Rain. - Oh, wow, we're really in for a fun time. (laughs) - Hey, it's not five hours long. That is a win in my book. - That's true. - I'm as limited. These are both like a couple of hours long. - Yes, indeed, but-- - You could watch both of these films much faster. Both faster, like together, you could watch them both and have time left over to do something else in the same time that it takes to watch the vendor's final cut of until the end of the world. - Do you know what? I'm like, it's, yeah, it's like, looking at these now, it looks like the typical thing where I will put it off till Tuesday or Wednesday, but I will not do this. I will watch it because the eel is supposed to be very, very good. And yeah, Black Rain's about Hiroshima. What's not to like? - Yeah, and I think it's supposed to be good. They say it's good. - Do you see Jim Cameron's next movie is about Hiroshima? - No. - Yeah, he's making a movie about Hiroshima after-- - It's about Avatar, the Avatar, the Avatar, the-- - Avatar, the-- - Avatar Nagasaki, yeah, exactly. Yeah, no, it's where the avatars go back in time to-- (laughs) - Stop the terrible-- - Just steal the-- - The tragedy of some axis powers losing the war. - I think it's called Last Train from Hiroshima or something. And it's about this guy, and it's a true story, but this guy who got the last train out of Hiroshima, only to arrive in Nagasaki and get bombed there. - I just remembered there's two films from 1989 called Black Rain, so just to make sure it's not the Ridley Scott one of Michael Douglas. - Damn it. - It is the show in the mirror one, but feel free to watch the other Black Rain as well, if it's got Michael Douglas looking cool on a motorbike. - Just to be clear, it's the Wikipedia page where they're amongst the article, there are blue links to words such as fallout, radiation sickness. - Yes, all of that lovely-- - Skin peeling off. - Hibakusha. Hibakusha, those are the people who survived the nuclear bombs. They were called Hibakusha-- - They can't, they give them it. - I mean nickname? - They got me, I mean nickname. - Yeah, that happens quite a lot over there. If there's people there like, you got-- - Different. - Yeah, if there's something that you don't like about them, they become like a big group, and they're just grouped in as like, yeah, those guys over there. - We don't get any credit for trying to phase that out of our lexicon, do we? - Yeah. (laughing) - Like, I feel like we're the only section of the world that's feeling guilty about this sort of stuff. - What was that? I remember when I worked with these two Chinese ladies in a cinema one time, and two Japanese ladies came in, and they said they were from Japan, and then they were walking away, and one of the Chinese girls come up to me, and she's like, hey, where are you talking to them? I was like, oh, 'cause they're, I don't know, 'cause they were asking me some questions, and they go, look at how they walk. They walk like cowboys, and I was like, what the hell are you talking about? And then the other Chinese lady was laughing. And apparently one thing that Chinese ladies say about like Japanese ladies, is they walk like cowboys 'cause they get fucked so much 'cause they're such slags. - A classic bit. - They're a classic banter, yeah, you know what I mean? - These tall bands. - Do Scottish ladies say that about anyone? - Yes, North Koreans. (laughing) - Yeah, they have a pop of the North Koreans. - Absolutely. - They have fired in. - A bunch of slags. - Yeah, like God. Do you know that lady who became a famous podcast guest a few years ago who was a Korean detector? - I know exactly, you're talking about yeah. - And exactly, you're talking about it. - Pretty lady, but everyone says she's a big fat liar. - That's all I hear. - Which is very funny. - That's right, but she's gonna be on next week. She's on the podcast. - She is on next week. - So we can also talk about Black Rain to talk about the eel because she's a snag. And no, that's not fair. That's not fair. - That's not fair. - That's not fair. - I apologize, I apologize. - Thank you. - Thank you. - Thank you. Now you'll have to make do with a goodbye. Goodbye, Andy. I love you. - Goodbye, lots of love. I love you too. Bye. - Bye. (upbeat music) ♪ To watch everyone move in ♪ ♪ Commit it to the task like heaven ♪ ♪ They can work and do it ♪ ♪ They've seen these people ♪ ♪ And you want a man ♪ ♪ I'll let about the names of Randy C.I.F. ♪ But if that is Nickman, you know where to go. If you're an enemy, or a friend of the show, call a friend of... Call a friend, call a friend, call a friend of... (gentle music)
