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So good on us for being truly, truly international. From the United States, Ashley, Ashley, how'd you like to match today? - I think it was a hard-fought victory and we're top of the league. So overall, I'm happy. - Yeah, that's right. And I mean, Ireland's own Kebo Sullivan, you can never complain about an away victory in the Premier League, can you? - No, I mean, look, it was hard, it was probably harder than it needed to be. Bare to mind where it's up there, bottom. But I don't think that'd be bottom by the end of the season, not by a long stretch. But yeah, look, it's three points. We're really on it, but when you're not on it and you're picking up three points, you take that. You take that all day long. - Yeah, and from the Holy Land deliver pool itself, Chris Brack, I mean... - I wish it was from Liverpool. - It's, when you play poorly and still come away with a victory, that's the main thing like Keb said, but that's exactly what today's performance was, wasn't it? - Typical wolves away, I think most of our games away at wolves are tight, not very eventful affairs. But I'll be honest, apart from the brain fart, I was quite relaxed because I think that was the only time balls really properly gave us a chance, gave us a chance other than that. I actually thought, as a unit, we kept them out quite well. We were just a bit sloppy on the ball and attack, but look, top of the league, six games in, I think Ashley Potsofer of Fours slots the first manager to win three away games in a row. I think in the Premier League, only Pep and the current Chelsea manager have also done that, so, you know, he's doing all right. Couldn't beat us in front of it. - Yeah, apparently I'm really dark, I don't know. It looks good on... - In general, all just in the back row. - Yeah, I guess, it's not entirely good. I will make no more policies for it too bad. You get what you get. Ashley, the lineups come out and it seems as if Arnislott has a preferred 11 because it's getting to be fairly predictable when given the opportunity for a big league game who he's gonna go with. - Yeah, he looks like he's got, you know, basically two teams that he's gonna be rotating for at least this next period of time. I'd expect to see the West Ham kind of team maybe start for the Volonia game. But yeah, I mean, they got some rest. I was expecting a little bit more from them. I was expecting a little bit more energy given that they had had that rest, but overall, I think that they're starting to gel, which is nice to see. I think that, you know, seeing that center-backed partnership really be nailed down between Kanate and Virgil, I think that's a good thing. I think that McAllister and Gravimberch especially are starting this really great dynamic relationship between each other and yeah, I think the front three were not quite as interchangeable as they were usually, but overall, I was okay with everyone that got picked today. Yeah, I mean, Kev Garmax says, Ali needs to grow that beard-back ASAP. It is lovely to see the big man back between the sticks, but it is a bit odd looking when he's clean-shaving in there. - Yeah, clean-shaving out, you see it now and again, hopefully give it another couple of weeks and he'll be back to his normal self. But yeah, clean-shaving Ali after an injury break. Mm, yeah, that is best look. Still a handsome devil though, let's be honest about that. - Yeah, for the team photo, I believe it was to go with the clean-shaved look, but let's just go ahead to you best. Oh, Goldy, you bastard, you bastard. Well, let's get into it. Greg, he's having a little bit of internet issues, so he'll pop back in whenever he gets the opportunity to, but we'll carry on without him. I mean, I'd have to say that the first half of the first half Ashley was very much wolves in the ascendancy and we looked a fair step off of the pace. - Yeah, I'm having a hard time figuring out if this is by design. I wasn't sure if this was the team kind of struggling to find rhythm after having the week off or if SWAT specifically is setting the team out to kind of just absorb pressure for a little bit, let the home team kind of come out, do their thing and then almost like burn themselves out a little bit because we have seen in a couple of games now that we clearly go up a gear in the second half. And I mean, it's just a hypothesis. I don't know what you guys think, but I do feel like it's like a learning curve for the guys on the team to figure out how to keep that control and keep that lower tempo 'cause I think we only had 38% possession for like the first 30 minutes or so, which is really low for us. But yeah, it's something that I'm gonna have to learn to get used to. It's very different from the clock. - Yeah, I mean, Kev, I don't know what your thoughts on whether it's by design or just, I don't know, like it's pretty much the exact opposite way of starting a match to how Brentford has decided to go this season where they're like, we're just gonna score within the first 40 seconds. But I mean, Kade Fagan says, the lack of fire is just odd because it needs to be a tactical thing then, doesn't it? I'm just kind of assessing out what the opposition's gonna do against this. - Wolves for all their possession had three attempts in the first half, two on target and none of them memorable. We're a lot more solid. We are, you know, you can count where you literally can count on one hand, it's the amount of goals we've conceded this season so far. It's almost, credit whereas due. Wolves are a better side than their league position said. I'll keep saying it. They kept the ball well. They moved it quickly. They were basically being kept at arms distance away from the final third. But they moved the ball around midfield a lot. All through the summer, people were in the chat, people who were on these podcasts when they were doing the transfer shows and awful lot of people wanted to go shopping in Wolverhampton for a very, very good reason. They got some very good first, you know? And the likes of Andre, eight Nuri, Joe Gomez, we've been linked with Mateus Kunia in the past. You've got a tomato cave from Barcelona. They've got decent players and they're well capable at the starter games in keeping the ball. They're at home. This is how Gary O'Neill has them drilled and this is how they normally play. They do this quite a bit. So sometimes you just got to soak it up and build yourself into the game. See out the first 10, 15 minutes and then build into the game. That 10, 15 minutes went on for 25 for another 10 today. As soon as it hits 25 minutes, we dominated the rest of the half and created the better chances. So at the end of the day, it's each game on its merits, but this is, we are at different sites. Slots, Liverpool and European clubs, Liverpool are polar opposites from what I can see in an awful lot of ways. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - One of the ways is controlling the ball and controlling what other two teams do with the ball. You know, we're quite happy. Slotsy is quite okay and content for sites to have the ball in the midfield as long as they're not hurting us 'cause we can break from them, you know, but that's the way it's just where I'm seeing it. It's just a different Liverpool. It's a different way of watching. - Yeah, and it's still early doors under the Arnus lot way of playing. So we're all still kind of climateizing ourselves to it. Our first slot quote, I'm gonna do it now because it's very pressing to what we're talking about. He says, "I don't think we started off well, "but you have to give credit to Wolves "for their game plan afterwards." I think we took control of the game. Brack, you're back with us now. We're just kind of talking through the first half of the first half and... - Oh, I'll come back in a bit then. (laughing) I mean, there's a couple of talking points. I mean, Trent getting the yellow card for kicking the ball away. I mean, it's just... - Brained it. - It's just a thing. - It's thick. It's just a thick thing to do 'cause it's the latest hot topic at the moment. There's always a thing issue over it. It's back, chat, whether it's the latest thing is that, and especially after what Arsenal have been done for twice now, they're gonna be on it. So, it was just a little bit naive to me. Trent has that every now and again in this game. We saw that with, was it Newcastle away? Similar time of the year, got blocked early for kicking the ball away, put himself into a lot of pressure. The only good thing was actually, I thought defensively he didn't really well today. You know, he kept that side fairly quiet, you know? And I think that's why they started switching over to the left, left. But yeah, no, apart from... Yeah, generally in the first 35 minutes, I think I messaged Kepp going, "This is boring, nothing's happened." It was literally like, apart from Trent's yellow, I'm going, "What's happened?" Nothing happened even so hard. You just watch it going, you know, it's a bit of a dire game, that's... You've done a lot of hopping puffs from them, which not all of them. Yeah, there's very few things of absolute note that I took down, Anthony Boylens. Oh, no, that's not the right one. Where are they ready to go? OK, our level was trying to really play up how well Wolves are doing first half. You thought Alison was like the busiest kill of goalkeeper in the world, the way he was going on. Yeah, Brian O'Halloran says, "We defend better as a team under slot. "Everyone busted got to get back." And that was one of the things that I noticed. We had a corner and it looked like they were going to have a chance to break away from it. And it was Mo Salah that was popping up, kind of mopping up as the left back, you know, in a spot where you'd normally not really see them in. Then I've got Alison, has a strong hand to a good cross from Wolves at about 20 minutes. Then Bandai Can Canate, putting good clearances in our box. Then Alison has a nice save. After, like you said, Chris, they started switching to coming down Robertson's side and they were getting a little bit more joy out of that. But yeah, it was around about the 25 minute mark that the game kind of spins and we really seemed to settle into it. Andre picks up a yellow card on McAllister. Everybody that listened to shows two summers ago knows that I was a big, big fan of Andre. It was good to see him playing in the Premier League. I thought he did all right, actually. - I'm not sure to be there very long. - No, no, it's, he probably won't end up at Liverpool, but it's Wolves is probably not where he's going to be settled in after that. I mean, Ashley, we get to the 39th minute and I don't know how Dominik's other side goes to score. - Anywhere else. And if it was just a little bit further away, I think the proximity to the goal, I think it was kind of saying that before we started, I think he's spot on. Like he just didn't have enough space to direct the ball. And it was a good save from Johnston. I think he made himself big, you know, and he was like a wall. So I thought he should have scored, but I think we have to give credit where credit is due, it was a good save. - Yeah, I mean, Kev, the ball from Andy Robertson is about as perfect as Ross. - You see, it was juicy, it was a beautiful cross. - It was a beautiful cross. Suppose like, we were talking with Gavin, I was talking with Gavin last night when we were doing the preview show. And I said like, suppose I need a goal. He can break the lines, he can make that run into the box. And there it was, he did it. He got such a sweet connection on the ball. When you see it back, he catches the ball perfectly and he spreads himself. He's about three yards out. He spreads himself, it hits his leg and goes out. If he shins it, it goes in. If he scruffs enough, he studs, it goes in. But he catches it so clean. - Or if you look clean. - He forgot a block on it. - If you look at it, it's like a silver. You know, there's also balance in it as you need a little look. - You do, but look, at the end of the day, everything about that move was brilliant, except for it didn't go in there. Everything else, Robertson overlapping on the outside, getting across into the box. Mayhem calls. I text Chris and I said, more of that, please. Get it wide, get it in the box. You're bigger than the, you're physically bigger than the, people ignore the fact that, I think there's, Liverpool are quite physically a big side. You know, and we don't do it enough. Get the ball out wide and put crosses in. If you don't get the header on it, you're outside and you're gonna win the ball on the edge of the box to have a puppet it. But, you know, I love the cross, I love the fact that Andy Robertson got only overlap, got a brilliant cross into the box. He timed his run perfectly, just didn't put it away. It happens and it'll happen plenty more times, but as long as he keeps making that run, I'm happy. - Yeah. - I mean, look, largely, thought he had a pouring off day, but that would have papered all over cracks on a performance for him to be honest. I don't think Subazla was quite on it, you know, but at the end of the day, he'll have worst games to score too. - Yeah, well, hopefully. I mean, we'll- - As long as he keeps making those hyper runs and supporting the strikers like that, we'll be playing. - Yeah. And Avo, Avo III here, says our corners were shite again. I don't know about it again. Today they were certainly bad. Matt Jappell said the short corners were garbage. We were hitting the first man constantly, but Chris, it's, it's after our sixth corner, which is not a good one. And the ball gets recycled out. And like Kev said, get it out wide and get the ball back into the box and- - It's a great cross by Jotta. - Yeah. And a perfect time to score, isn't it? - It is, but go back to the grab-and-bitch goal. Look at the Kannasty goal. It's right at the keeper, low. It gets a hand to it, it bounces in. That's where I'm talking about where the luck goes for you. When you look at it for you, the keeper probably saves that and tips it wide. So, but yeah, that was Avo's first Premier League goal for Liverpool. Feels like he scored more than that, buddy. They're all doing cup games. And I think Mike Reed put a tweet out saying, this is the second time Evo has scored or assisted in three consecutive games for Liverpool, and he's nearly prepared to ever do it. So he's had a bit of a role, really. So, you know, listen, yeah, we'll talk about his brain fart later, but I thought in general thought, Evo had a pretty decent game and I think he recovers from the brain fart. Well, which I think is a thing that probably in the last year or so, Liverpool haven't been very good at, which is recovering from self-inflicted setbacks. But yeah, it's a perfect time to score. I thought Liverpool deserved the lead because we haven't created a lot, but we created the two biggest chances of the game. And what's happened? And also, Gary Neville was really upset over it, which is always good. - You worry yourself too much with the opinions of Gary Neville. - I just like hearing them upset. It makes my day. - Yeah. - It's luckily for you. - It is better than the international feed, unfortunately. - Yeah, look, you guys have today. - Jim, I think it was Jim Biglin. And he spent the entire time just talking about how Salah was trying to buy cheap penalties. It was really annoying. - Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah. I had Townsend don as the color calms on mine and he was Townsend. Just, he is what he is. - For us, if Gary Neville's quiet in Liverpool, get you know, Liverpool are all right. And second half, he's quiet for long spells, and he's getting more annoyed with walls, which is actually quiet for me. So that's when you know Liverpool are doing all right. - That's too bad for Gary. Too bad for Gary. I mean, we get to halftime, and obviously this is the regular point where I remind everybody about our charity sponsors. So if you can please help us out in trying to make sure that we get our charities to their fundraising targets that we've set for them. It's fans supporting food banks and Liverpool, the Lighthouse Cafe in Dublin. Two organizations trying to make sure that people that need food are gonna be able to have a meal this evening. So obviously, organizations like this are needing, needing, needing donations all the time, and that's why we're here to help them out with it. So if you can, please donate. If you can't, please take the link to it, which you'll find in the show description or podcast description, and put it in your social medias to spread the news far and wide, 'cause we'll keep going on about it until we get to that fundraising target. Other than the goal, Ashley, we get to halftime. I would say that Mario Lamina is probably lucky to not be on a yellow card for some of his antics in the first half. And as Chris Golden pointed out that Lamina spelled backwards as animal, which is just a perfect Chris Golden comment, but that was a comfortable halftime, I felt at least. I'm not sure how you felt about it at the half. - Yeah, I mean, I think we felt like we gained a little bit more control, probably after about the 30, 35 minute mark. It felt like, I don't know if they were waning because of the illness that was in their squad, but it did feel like the energy had sort of gone out of them. And we felt like we were in the ascendancy. And I felt, I felt confident at the half. You know, I wasn't expecting the brain fart that was to come, but overall, I felt confident throughout the game. But yeah, at halftime, I thought everything looked pretty rosy. - Yeah, I mean, we're gonna talk about Ibu Kanate's brain fart cab, obviously, but there was a couple of them right at the start of the second half, one from the aforementioned Mario LaMina who passes the ball beautifully to MoSala, who then I don't know how he does the score. I mean, I know he does the score because I put him as my captain in my AFL this week, but come on, Mo. - When you need meal time inspiration, it's worth shopping Kroger for thousands of appetizing ingredients that inspire countless mouth-watering meals. 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I never felt that we were gonna get opened up by them. But when the brain fart came, it's poor communication, it's poor everything. Job number one, do your job, do the day work. If there's any shredded doubt, Rosette, get it out and make the decision and take the decision away from someone else. - You know, it should have been stopped, it also should have been stopped higher up in the attack. Subbers lied to me, watched his man run past him and stopped running and he got the full length of it. That's one of the ones we're going like, either track your runner or that's where you take the clever yellow, which to be fair, it's the way you had to tell who was playing. It's what Levena did all game and thinking of the yellow so he might have worked. But yeah, to me, that's all on Ibu, trying to be a bit too clever to think he could overpower someone. And you could see Allison saying to him, like, you know, I'm not there to get that and he isn't. You know, in that position, he should have just put it to Rosette and blessed me at about a 10 minute spell then I think that was in his head a little bit. - I was worried that he was gonna get happy, get hooked 'cause he looked like he had lost his head for sure. - Well, I mean, it was such a getting stuck between two decisions and then ended up doing neither for it because he's trying to let the ball run to Allison but then he also doesn't block Strand Larson's run off which you got to get credit where credit's due, Strand Larson doesn't let them all, he doesn't quit on it, he keeps the ball alive. And then it's just a bit of a panicky disaster in our penalty area and yeah, eight and every puts it in and it's all of a sudden it's one, one. The second goal, we've conceded in the Premier League and Ashley, it's becoming a bit of a theme but we're responding to going down. We didn't do it against Nottingham Forest, that game is such a epoxy mark on the entire season but within three minutes, we're back down the other end and we end up getting the penalty. - Yeah, I think they said it was 37 seconds from the kickoff. So there was a little bit of time to reset and it was a clear penalty. I don't think there's any argument. I mean, tomato was basically like crawling all over Jada's back and yeah, it was good to see that confirmed by VAR quickly. I feel like sometimes they do their best to try to rule those things out for God knows what reason. So that was confirmed and then Mosela does Mosela things and helps my FPL today, which is fantastic because nobody else really helped my FPL today. But yeah, to get the lead resumed after that, it was a great response and it was very echoes of West Ham where we shot ourselves in the fight and then we immediately rectified the situation and that shows a lot of character. I wish that we didn't need to shoot ourselves in the foot first to then show that character. And hopefully over time, we will eliminate those stupid little errors because, I mean, that was entirely of our own fault in making. But yeah, no, I'm glad that we got back on. - Do you think the manager also has learned a little bit from the forest game? As in, he didn't pan it, you know, when we've gone and wandered down over games, he hasn't started to like do proper radical wild things. Let's go through it the back. Let's do, you know, let's really push for it. It is going back to play the way we play and instilling that into us. I'm hoping that's kind of a sign to call, which is, if we could see there's a way we play, you know, there's a way of making it more urgent, but we don't have to go radical until it's like very last minute. So, they just got that in these games. We've all defended, but he is a bit of a, as Kev loves my phrase, spot the dope. And he does have that brain fart on it. And I think it's pressure. I do think it's pressure where they go. We've just got ahead. Oh, no, it's crosses going in. And they know it's jotter. And I think people, and that's, and they cause panic. Harlan does it. Harlan causes all sorts of particle people seeing near them in the box, which why they jumping it? You know, and that's what the best players do. And it was a nice pen by the month. Yeah, I mean, he steps up. He had scored four in his last five. I know a lot of people have that built in natural nervousness around a left footer, taking the penalties. But yeah, I didn't want to name names, Kev. I didn't want to name games. Or me and Keith are like founder members of the club. I think isn't jotter Salah now four for an all-time pen scored. He leveled a bit of 34 pence on a finger, Phil Neil, Mulby, and Gerard. I've got more pens. Yeah, they've had so much more in the Bay Area, wouldn't they? Oh, yeah, they weren't. Phil Neil, especially. Yeah, Phil Neil's got 38. Mulby's got 42. Gerard's got 47. And Salah is currently on 34. So it's not bad record. Well, I mean, it's not even the debate as a pen. It's no one's really questioning that it was that it wasn't a pen. I don't know, though. The Wall's fans probably are. Why? Oh, I don't know. Every decision was, or you could hear it. And Salah was, apparently, he's corrupt. It wasn't. Yeah, in fairness, when I saw one of, I'll be honest, jotter gave a nasty one down the back of it. But I think it was, was it Lemina's ankle? Yeah. He was late, he reached out for the board. That was, that was late. That was a booking. But there was another one, I think, was it jagomas on someone? Yeah. And it was excellent. It was a complete accident. It's football. It's one of those things. But it looked awful. You know, it looked at me. And there was another one, Andre tackled someone, and it just landed his foot, landed on the ball. And when it was-- It was very like Jones in that Tottenham game where the ball, like the foot rolled over the ball. 100% last season. 100% last season, that's a red card. I think so. Because they didn't necessarily fight with it. No, it's not purposeful. But based on the calls that we saw last year, I think that-- Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, and the thing is, I think it's a booking. I think if there was a case for a blue card or an orange card, you know-- Yeah, like a sitting. Yeah, then that was it. It was a borderline. You could have a conversation about it being a red card, but I don't think it's a red card. But yeah, the penalty was a Stonewall Pentheaves. And hanging out of his ass, for God's sake, was almost like giving him a piggyback if he wanted to take him into the dressing rooms. He was all over him. What was he supposed to do? It's conference, you plucks it, I reckon. Yeah, I mean, look, the opposition fans will pry foul on my heavier. But Andy Taylor was giving nothing to nobody today. He did play the solids real once? Any advantages? Both ways. Unconventy hate salad. Unconventy hate salad. Absolutely detest the man. The amount of times that any left back is hanging out of him. I mean, if you did that on a son-- if you did that outside in an nightclub and grapple someone like that, you're getting harassed out by bouncers. Not just one or two or three taking out the door. I think that's a directive across all of the refs, because the number of times you see Salah getting hauled to the ground with absolutely no consequence for the opposition team, I feel like they have decided to overlook that on purpose. It's assault. Even. It's bordering assault. I mean, he's getting thrown all over the place. The funniest thing was, some fellas try to do that to him. He turns him, so the fella falls over. He gets a free kick against him. I know. So how very dare you? I know. How dare you show your strength? Yeah. Yeah, it's Anthony Boylitz. The salad gets pulled and has the free kicks given against him, which is just-- it's absolutely brilliant. Immediately following us going back up to one, Ibu Kanate, like you guys were saying, still looks like he has a bit of the jitters, takes a yellow card, gives him a dangerous free kick. They switch strikers. Why he chan comes on for Strand Larson. I thought it was all right today. And then in the 71st minute, Ibu Kanate seems to have completely gotten over his little Rick and puts in an incredible challenge when Forbes, who came on for Belgard, did well to actually get inside Trent. It was one of the few times that Trent got beat by a player going up against him. But Ibu Kanate comes in and puts an absolutely lovely, lovely tackle in. And then we ring the changes, Chris, Gacko and Jones, come on for Diaz and Sabaslai. And neither of the two players going off can have any complaints coming. No, they were the right subs. Grapp was a lot of effort, a lot of hardware. It just didn't. It wasn't happening for him. And Diaz was just quiet. You barely heard his name mentioned. You know what? You have games like that. But we've got a guy informing Gackpo. And I was pleased with Joe's because I thought, Jones gave us that bit more energy. He was sensible with the ball. And he just did the things that we kind of wanted Sabaslai to do. So I just thought he did what we needed to do. So I thought both subs were correct. Macaleson wasn't great, but I think he was doing more than more domo was. So I didn't really have a problem, any of the subs. So I thought they all made perfect sense. If anything, I was surprised we didn't bring maybe four for a fifth player a little bit earlier. So often, I was happy with the subs. I thought the Jones was really good. Yeah. I just felt that Dominic Sabaslai had-- it seemed like that miss that he had or the save from his chance seems like kind of got into him, because he was a bit off of the pace for it. His 76-minute is the chance that Kev, you alluded to earlier, where Mo has the chance to put Jones in. I saw somebody saying that even if he had put the passing correctly that Jones was offside. Yeah, it would have been slightly off. Just on one camera angle that I was looking at, he looked slightly off. But that's fine for Jones to be where he was, because there's no way in hell you're expecting Mo to take that pass first time on his right foot. He shouldn't have been taking that. He should have been driving on to make the defender commit chop back laid across, and you can relax in at 3-1 for the last few minutes. It was an onion. It's something that I think we've got better at this season, the way we're a little bit better on the way we're playing with some of the counters that we're building. That one was a bad decision. It was a bad decision making from start to finish on it. But again, the work to get yourself in the position, to get the break, brilliant. Winning the ball back in a really good, dangerous area, you did everything right by the pass. It was just a poor decision, because I felt the third one, you could have opened the gates. And you could have gone and made those other changes. You could have maybe brought gears on for 10 minutes at the end. You could have made a few other changes that with one half and I on Bologna for next week, but at 2-1, I think the decisions, the substitutions that he made were the right ones for today. And it was just about three points. Forget about anything else. Yeah, because Gary O'Neill makes a very obvious change on 77, where he brings Tommy Doyle on for Santiago Bueno, clearly going to try to salvage at least the point from the game by taking a defender off or, I think, Doyle's an attacking midfield or something like that. We make a little swap with Gomez and Robertson and that, at that point, it's all about just kind of keeping what we have, Ashley, and my favorite thing from the final part of the game, the 91st minute, most out of putting a defensive header in at the back stick in our own box. And it's that buy-in from the whole team of defending as a team is an ethos sort of thing that you see a lot of other top attacking players that don't get back and put that defending work in to help out to try to keep the three points. And it was nerdy, but we got across the line. Yeah, I think that 10 minutes felt more nerdy than it needed to feel. And we were talking about this before we started the stream about how I think a lot of people have PTSD. And there was a time where we could hold on to a one goal lead and feel really good about it. And I don't think we've been that team for a few years. And hopefully we get back to being that team. But at the moment, it does feel like we still have a few rickets in us that can kind of give that lead away. So hopefully with time, we'll see that confidence grow. Yeah, and Bracki, anything else from you in terms of what stood out at the end of the game or just the jitters of hoping that we don't blow it? I think you had the slight worry of hope we don't blow it. But I've got to be honest, if you're a wolves fan, you'd be tearing your hair up because what did wolves do for the last 10, 15 minutes to push for the win? What did they do? They didn't get, they kept playing it round the back, which is fine because they were just sat into formation and watched them and said, go on then. And they haven't got the players to do that. Didn't really try and play for corners. You know, play for set pieces. You know, I'd been more worried if Dawson was still, if Dawson was fit to play because he's a nightmare from corners. But I was, yeah, they just weren't great, which is good for us. And it was good for us to take advantage of city dropping points, you know, Arsenal nearly dropping points, but at least making life difficult for themselves. So, you know, sort of what we didn't do after the wolves, after the forest game. So all in all, I would say after the opening, a few fiction we've had, I think we're about to point off where I thought we, where I hoped we would be, which is I thought we would have five wins in a draw. That's five wins at a loss. You know, I generally thought we'd have beaten fires and we've probably got to draw in one of these aways. So, I start to go. I don't think it has much more, really. - No, and I mean, it's a good points pace to be on. If you're picking up 15 points from every six games, you're putting up over 90 points in the season now. We've had a rather favorable bit of luck from the fixture computer. As opposed to like somebody said there about wolves. - Oh, it's horrible enough. - Yeah, like they've had a pretty terrible start. So I mean, they're sitting at the bottom of the table right now, but they probably had the most nightmarish of all starts in terms of their fixtures they could possibly get, but they're only going to be our businesses. You know, once maybe if we catch them in the cup, I don't even know if they're still in the cup, but it's wolves aren't really on this anymore. - They're out of the league cup. I think they're out of the league cup. But look, bit of perspective, Royce, for all of the nerves that people had in the last 10, 15 minutes. Nelson Samados shot in 76 minutes was their last effort. False stop in the half, you know, they had three shots in the second half. A four, sorry, the goal, which was our own making, they're one inside the box from Forbes. He looked rapid as you like, by the way. You know, that young kid, that young kid they got on law. The shot from Cunyada went wide and the last one was on 76 minutes. Nelson Samados from halfway inside, inside their half. You know, it was like a pot shot. That was it, they've done nothing else. It was literally, it was a side that you looked like, they were terrified of getting absolutely slaughtered. They were terrified of opening up. I mean, I get what Neville was talking about. Why are you giving it back to the keeper? Why are they paying, trying to play out through the thirds? Who are they launching at long to? - Yeah. - You know, it's one each end going to be able to come out in the air, no. You know, it's going to be Virgil, no. You know, it's like the one aerial threat that they had, they took off. - I think they made it. - They should have a pace a bit more than the wings though, because they let them all get set and I think that's where they would act. - Exactly, I mean, we were set in our back four, the two holding mids and we let the other front four go and try to press the ball and try to see if we can win it back. Curtis Jones was fresh on. He was the one that was leading the press and forcing them to either go back to the keeper to go along or to come out the other side and try and just eat time off the clock. That's all that does. You're set, we wanted them to go along 'cause all we were going to do is we were just going to get the ball back and we'll just recycle it around the back ourselves, come and get the ball off us, over commit and we'll knock it on the break and we'll probably score. - Thank you. - So I can understand but I can understand why it's frustrated the frustration but if you open up against good sides, you will get punished. - Yeah, here's wolves to start the season which be fair, it's brutal. Arsenal away and then they went to Chelsea at home then they had Forrest away, then they had Newcastle at home brighten away, villa away and then they've had us. To be fair it starts the season but that's pretty rough starts of the season. - Yeah, you just about couldn't pick a worst possible start. - Yeah. - I will say to lead this in to come around and ask everybody for their man of the match, I'm gonna go first just 'cause the tail ends nicely with the final bit of my notes. - This episode is brought to you by Microsoft Azure. Turn your ideas into reality with an Azure free account. Get everything you need to develop apps across cloud and hybrid environments, scale workloads, create cloud connected mobile experiences and so much more. Discover what you can create with popular services free for 12 months. Learn more at azure.com. That's A-Z-U-R-E.com and sign up for a free account to start building in the cloud today. - The only name that is across the final four things I have is Ibu Kanate. He's got a lovely pass to start us off on an attack where it goes to Trent and then Gackbo puts it across Trent's miles off side but it comes from Kanate playing a lovely long ball down the wing that Trent. Then Kanate comes over, covers great against Koonian to the box, Allison comes out and smothers it and then the final kick of the game, Kanate is extremely aggressive coming up to cut that ball out and the whistle blows and I think even with the absolute brain fart that he did that ended up with their goal, I would give man of the match to Ibu Kanate. Ashley, how about you? - I actually was struggling throughout the game 'cause I was thinking about the post-match. I was struggling to kind of pick out one. I mean, for me, I think it's the same guy that we've been mentioning several times. I think it's Gravenburch. I think Ibu is probably the next one on my list behind him but I think very quietly, Gravenburch is becoming one of the top sixes in this league at the moment and long may it continue. - Yeah, absolutely, bonkers LFC, agreeing with Gravenburch, Jack Napier, 666, saying, "I think Gravy Train has about six men of the match awards, including international games this season." He might just have six from Liverpool games. Chris, who did you like for man of the match? - I think it is Gravenburch. Probably the only one who deserves to shout out is Virgil. I thought it was just like standard Virgil, just let the back well, past it well, ding it, flustered but I think it is Gravenburch. I can't wait to go slot does when you have to rest Gravenburch properly in like one of these big games, which he's gonna have to do next international break because but he's becoming very, very pivotal, which is great for what you want. - Yeah, absolutely. - Of course, he's pivotal for Neverland as well. He's not gonna get arrested for Neverland's. He's gonna play every game. So yeah, it's a job to manage it. I would have given to Gravenburch as well. Just a bit of perspective on his performance just from the stat side of it, okay? Eight jewels won, ground jewels won seven out of seven. Aerial jewels won out of one, 100% on both. He was fouled four times, didn't commit a single foul. His passing was 92% accuracy. Got into their box with a lovely run and made four passes into their final third as well, all accurate. He slowly was surely becoming undroppable in this side, but he's gonna need to be managed. And we saw the start of that process in the League Cup where he wasn't involved in the match day squad at all. But yeah, look, the other one, you know, Gio Gajata was there to cause mayhem to win the penalty. Beautiful cross for Kanath. His goal worked his socks up in that number nine position for this side, which is unpopular and unfashionable, because you're generally not going to be involved in much of the build-up play. You're there really as a nine and this is kind of set up to finish the chances, to be the guy that you pass into for him to lay it up so he can spin off and try to get in behind. It's a horror, you'll see him in games and you'll be asking yourself, what did he really do? But the job that he's asked to do, he does it really well and he's a menace in the box and a panic that's set into the World's Offenders when he won the penalty is there forever to say. It's like, above all player, he's positioning, he's body positioning to put himself in that spot where the defender is either going to have to foul him or he's going to score, one or the other. You know, I'm glad it's at the old days where it would have been a penalty and a red card because he was last men, you know, that's a good thing. But yeah, Gio Gajata is a white menace. You know, it must be a nightmare for defenders. - Yeah, he can do the other thing. He can drift out under the wing and put a beautiful cross in. He can drop deep and be a link player if you need him to be. You know, he's a sole versatile, but this season, we're seeing a different side of his game where he is like the main man at the minute, and he is the main nine. And fingers crossed, touch wood. Another one that will need to be managed because of his injury record in recent years, but at the minute, he's done really, really well. - Yeah, it's a, it's his footballing brain, I think would be a good way of describing the way that Gio Gajata plays. It's like a very high football IQ. We'll get through some of the post-match quotes here. Very fitting. Arnis Lot talking about Ryan Gravenberg. He's so comfortable on the ball. He's doing really well off the ball as well to be completely honest. That surprised me a little too. That's a little, little bit harsh. Where is his other ones here on? More on Gravenberg's Lot says he's very comfortable on the ball with him and McAllister. That helps if you want to have the ball. Two of them can run as well. He's doing a good job without the ball. And that surprised me. I know him from the Dutch league, Jürgen did a really good job. And as somebody else pointed out in the chat earlier, what, 25 million? 30 million we paid for Ryan Gravenberg's? - He was 40 million euros. - 40 million, so 35 million pounds. It's looking more like a steal, more like a steal every day. Quotes from Kanate afterwards. Wolves were very good today. They started really well. And the first half was a little bit tough for us. After we scored, we then had a little bit more control to gain, then came back. And thankfully we got the second. Thankfully we got three points. Arnislott on Kanate on Kanate again. The match award maybe forgot we conceded a goal. So I guess that puts Lay's mind giving Kanate a man of the match to rest. Arnislott says pre-season help. The players started to believe we have a lot to prove when we come across the top size. It's good that we are where we are at the moment. I always try to be realistic. Jürgen's work has been fantastic. We have to prove we can do it in the Champions League. And the Premier League. He also goes on to say he doesn't expect Andy Robertson to have picked up an injury late in the match. I didn't even realize that there was injury concerning a drop. He had another one down the back of his Achilles. It was very similar to some of the other ones. It was right down the back of his arm. I think it was Forbes on Robbo at the very end of the match. Yeah, it was an accident. But it looked a sore one, you know? It was just one of them. Bastard Forbes, a slot on the goal we conceded. He says the goal we conceded was definitely avoidable and it was unnecessary. It came at a bad time because we had total control over the game. It's always nice to win, especially away. The first 15, 20 minutes weren't great. It was a real tough start for us. But eventually we took control of the game. So yeah, I think that's kind of roughly what we were all saying. You know, the first half of the first half, not so good. We settle into it and it's all dandy after that. But another thing that you put in here for us, Ashley, the Premier League clubs have agreed a plan to close the summer transfer window on August the 15th next year before the 25-26 season starts. And Saudi Arabia is not part of this agreement. Yeah, that just popped up. It came out on the time, right? What about the other leagues? They all got to do this, though. Let me see. Give me a second. We've done this. The Premier League have done this before. We do it for the season starts. Then all the other leagues go, well, we're not. And then you sat there and nacked them. So it's like you've got three weeks of plays you've got to try and get rid of sooner. Yeah, that's a strange one. I mean, Saudi Arabia was still open. I think even when we were closing our window, or slamming our window shut at the end of August, I think Saudi Arabia still had another two weeks or a month or something like that, where theirs was open. Yeah, look, in fairness, if you're a wild one club, it should make a blind bit of difference. Because all you literally do to tell-- you all tell every single player at the end of the season, who's staying, who's going. And by the way, if you're going, it's got to be done. By the time our window closes, give us enough time to get replacements, any offers for any player after that will be rejected, out of hand, irrespective. And most clubs will be-- in the Premier League, especially, you're able to afford to do that unless you get a ridiculous offer for a bang average bear. And that can happen. But when it comes to this summer and the next summer's transfer window, we've got other issues that need to be addressed well before the transfers. We've got three big contracts that need to be addressed. Otherwise, we're going to be very, very, very busy. A very busy club connects someone, for certain. So Ashley Spount, another quote says, "The executives of the European Club Association are in favor." So-- Yeah, they're saying-- Because they're all doing the same, they make sense. They're saying that Spain, Italy, Germany, and France will close early, too. It's just going to be Saudi Arabia that's going to be the outlier. It's the right thing to do in all fairness. When the season starts, what you have in your squad, that's it. When the season starts, the transfer window should be shut the day before. And most leagues now across Europe, especially with the advent of this new club world couple shit, will start in and around the same time. So there's no excuse not to have uniformity with this. I mean, the only reason the Premier League tends to start that bit early is because it's the only league that has two domestic cup competitions that have to squeeze in fixtures where Spain and Germany and Italy tend to start a week or two after us because they only got one. And in Germany's case, they've only got an 18-bundest league and not 20. So it's just not fair. Yeah, I mean, I think that's pretty much enough for us. I'm sure GAB is going to want to do some sort of a preview show before the big match against Foni Bologna on Wednesday. Bob Patek was saying, at least six changes for Bologna or else will suffer Saturday. The early kickoff at Crystal Palace. Palace, of course, losing to Everton today. So on sports. Just help it's a home game, though, as well, those helpers. Oh, against Bologna, yeah, not against Palace. Yeah, we travel to Palace, but we go on from there. Yeah, I just saved this one from Sid Finch from earlier in the show because I thought it was just an absolutely bang-on comment. He says, the team will grow for mistakes that don't cost them by the final whistle. And I really agree with that sentiment because, yeah, there were some mistakes in that game, but you come out with it was still getting all three at a point and a way trip to Wolverhampton, top of the table. And that's all we can ask for. So anything before we get out of here, Ashley? No, we keep marching on. More of the same, please. Yeah, what about you, Brackie? No, nothing from me. Yeah? Well, Bologna, you're playing Atalanta tonight at home. It's nil-nill at the minute, just coming up to halftime. Keep an eye on that result because we know from Placios, where is Atalanta or no joke. So-- and this will be the first time we'll have come up against Bologna. So we don't know that much about them. I'm just looking at their lineup. They've got a couple of-- they've got three players that stand out a mile from me that I know of. Orcelini is one very good froyler in the middle of the park. And Posh is playing it right back. He was the Austrian sent-in-back stroke fullback that had a really good euros. So they're not a bad side at all. And it looks pretty even based on the stats. Yeah. Yeah, same. The Austrian's pretty even shots for each. So so far, they look like they're well-balanced. Yeah, so they're not a bad side. I mean, at the minute in the table that 10th currently, one win, four draws, one loss, which says, yeah, they're conservative, hard to beat, but they ain't going to score many at yet. So it's just early in the season, home, you want to finish off this group of Champions League fixtures with six points ideally. Plus, we've got a fair few people going over there for this one, so I'd like to see you going over there for a win. We've got to figure out who the next zone is going to be, but hopefully not. Hopefully, we can continue on with the winning ways, because that is what we were here for. So I'm not sure whether it'll be 2, 3, 4, or none of us after the Bologna game, it won't be none of us. There'll be a post-match show then. You'll have your Sunday night show coming up tomorrow night with Gavin, whoever he can rustle up on a Sunday night to go through the bigger talking points of Liverpool and the weekend's action. But for those of us at the full-time show, thanks to my panels for joining me. Thank you for everybody in the chat for joining. Hit the like button on the way out. Share, subscribe, all that good stuff. Please help donate to our charities if you can, but, yeah, I tripped him all on you. Finishes, wolves one, Liverpool two, Liverpool Liverpool, top of the lead. This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. [CHEERING] [BLANK_AUDIO]
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