In this heartfelt episode, we talk with Jennifer McCutcheon, a spiritual recovery and trauma healing coach, founder of Enable No More, and co-creator of the Finding Balance documentary. Jennifer’s mission is to empower mothers of addicted children to break free from destructive cycles and heal themselves and their families. Drawing from her own lived experience as a mother and wife impacted by addiction, Jennifer offers invaluable insights and tools for trauma recovery, emotional regulation, and addiction healing. Through her Radiant Recovery Programs, she helps families break the cycles of enabling and codependency, and reclaim their power from addiction.
Key Topics:
- Addiction recovery and trauma healing for families
- Breaking the cycles of enabling and codependency
- Emotional regulation and somatic healing
- Spiritual psychology and the science of the mind in recovery
- Tools and strategies to empower families toward healing and recovery
Guest Bio:
Jennifer McCutcheon is a spiritual recovery and trauma healing coach, bestselling co-author of A Bigger Mission, and founder of Enable No More. She is dedicated to helping mothers of addicted children break free from destructive cycles and reclaim their power. Having experienced the devastation of addiction within her own family, Jennifer understands the pain, fear, and helplessness that families endure. Her personal journey of healing led her to create the Radiant Recovery Programs, a blend of lived experience, trauma knowledge, and healing modalities that help families heal and rise together.
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Episode Highlights:
- Introduction to Jennifer McCutcheon and her journey
- The impact of addiction on families and how to break the cycles of enabling and codependency
- Emotional regulation and somatic healing in the recovery process
- Spiritual psychology and the science of the mind in trauma healing
- Jennifer’s Radiant Recovery Programs and the Freedom Group Coaching Program
- Final thoughts and where to find Jennifer online
Join us for an empowering conversation with Jennifer McCutcheon as she shares her insights on trauma recovery, breaking the cycles of addiction, and empowering families to heal together.
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- On this episode of "Tell us a story." And it is very isolationist. We are very much alone in this and I am on a mission to change that. And living my purpose, my pain, birth my purpose. The way that I support mothers is to help them heal themselves. I mean, one in five people are impacted by mental health and addiction. That's 48 million in the United States impacted. So what keeps us trapped is our own limiting beliefs, our own inner wounds that are being triggered. If you're not gonna use drugs in my house and you're not gonna have paraphernalia in my house. - Welcome to "Tell us a story." The podcast by Belmont City Press. Where entrepreneurs and sales professionals share their journeys, insights and strategies for success. In each episode, our guests reveal how they've overcome challenges, establish their brands and leverage their stories to promote their businesses so you can too. I'm Red Hilton, your host for this episode. Today I'm joined by Jennifer McCutchen, who is the founder of Enable No More. So, Jennifer, "Tell us a story." - Well, thank you so much for having me. Super excited to connect with you and your listeners. Yes, my name is Jen McCutchen. I am the founder of Enable No More, Radiant Recovery Programs. We hope moms of addicted children reclaim their peace and their power with really the specific purpose of breaking the destructive cycles of addiction. So, our ideal clients are mothers who are ready to change what isn't working. They're looking to restore peace. They're looking to set boundaries. And they're really looking to implement solutions that have real impact to ultimately gain control of their lives again and help their loved ones, help their children do the same. So, we want to help them to rediscover their power and in doing so, they're able to show their children and a way to recovery. So, yeah, if you're interested in, you can discover more about us and all of our offerings at our website at enablenomore.ca. We can easily be reached through our contact page on our website or Instagram at EnableNoMore. And yeah, I'd love to connect with you and help you to learn a new way to love, think, and live that actually has impact on not only your life, breaking free from the destructive cycles of addiction, but also helping your children do the same. - Hmm, Jennifer, that does sound like extremely important work and it's sort of one of those things that, I'm glad you're here and you're providing that service, but I'm also, I'm sorry that you're here and providing that service, you know, it's a double-edged sword. So, talk to us about your story and how EnableNoMore came to be. - Yeah, so, you know, my story is for over 20 years, I was impacted by my loved one's addiction. My first and second husband's husband both struggled with substance abuse and mental health issues, but it was really my son's battle with mental health and addiction that really brought me to my knees. It cracked me open. There was a difference between my experience as hard as it was with my spouses and my child, when your child is literally knocking on death's door, it is a completely different experience or it was for me. And it really was the fight. It was me trying to save. I became addicted to my child and trying to save him that I became very unwell and it was through that process of really having to understand that I did not have power over my son or his addiction, that really the only thing that I could finally understand that I had control over was myself. So it was in the cracking open, the breaking point for me that I started my own healing and recovery journey, recognizing that I could not change that aspect of my child's life. And it was on my healing journey that I started to really awaken to the truth of who I am, the power that I held within and the solutions actually that I had within to change what wasn't working in my life. And in doing so, in doing my own healing and doing my own healing and recovery, I became influential in leading by example, by becoming an example of love and recovery and boundaries for my child and it had impact on him. So when I, you know, Willy started to gather so much tools and training and certifications through my own journey, I realized I had something really special here to offer other family members and mothers that are going through this because there isn't a lot of information. There is not a lot of resources for families and it is very isolationist. We are very much alone in this and I am on a mission to change that. It is a movement to help families enable no more but come back into the power that they have to actually have influence and help their children because we have a lot of power, we have a lot of influence. And yeah, it's, I love this. I am living my purpose. My pain, birth my purpose. I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. I know who I am more than I've ever known myself to be. And yeah, this is what I live for to help others. - It seems as though a lot of the information out there is geared towards those in the throes of addiction and like you said, not the people surrounding them who are sort of just unsure of what to do to help their loved one. - So a hundred percent, yeah. - So what is a misconception that you often find yourself educating people about? What are people sort of a misconception about what it is that you do or they should be doing in this situation? - I think the biggest misconception about what I do because I believe what I'm doing is very unique from a lot of the resources that I have seen out there, a lot of resources are geared towards helping parents navigate their children's addiction. The way that I support mothers is to help them heal themselves. Because like you said, most resources are geared towards the person struggling in addiction. And the family members are not supported in this. I mean, one in five people are impacted by mental health and addiction. That's 48 million in the United States impacted. 60 million family members are impacted by addiction. So we need to support the family members. And to do that, we have to help them heal and recover, do their own inner work so that they can actually show up from a place of love and compassion and understanding because addiction is not just substance, addiction, the core of addiction is unhealed trauma. And as family members, our loved ones' addictions are actually triggering our own unhealed trauma. So the misconception is that the addict, person struggling with substance abuse, is the person that needs recovery. The misconception and the truth is the entire family needs recovery. The entire family needs support. And it's less about learning how to navigate and maneuver your loved one or your child in addiction. It's about, let me heal myself. Let me navigate my own unhealed pain and trauma and things that I do to avoid dealing with my own stuff because then I'm not gonna be triggered by my loved one. I'm actually gonna be able to hold space and support them, loving them and accepting them exactly where they are without trying to change them. That's the difference between what I do. The misconception is it's not just our addict that needs recovery, we all need recovery. - And you and I have spoken before about this and we sort of agreed, I guess, that it's that you can't pour from an empty cup mentality? - Correct. - Yes, yes. And there's something I call the mama bear syndrome because mothers, we are innately programmed to nurture, to love, to protect our children. And when your child is in the grips of addiction and they're literally fighting for their life, there is little, there's little at times that you can do. And our innate ability is just to fight to get in the way of it. And that's exactly what ends up happening. We drain ourselves emotionally, physically, mentally, spiritually, where there is nothing left. And that's where our health deteriorates to a dangerous point. And we are caught. And then we are in the traps of addiction with our loved ones. And it's not a good place to be. And that's why it's so important to come back to recognizing that we are part of the cycles of addiction. We are contributing, not by choice, but we're almost, addiction is very sneaky and it just pulls people into its traps. So when we can really come back to prioritizing ourselves, healing our own inner wounds and learning the truth of who we are, that we are not our pain, we are not our past, we are not our traumas, we are actually beautiful divine spiritual beings and we have the power to shift and change at any moment in our lives. And that's the hope that gets reignited through our recovery journey. You said the cycle. What is it that keeps families stuck in that cycle of suffering? - Well, the biggest thing is, the thing that really keeps us trapped is the triggering of our own traumas, our own inner pain or our own limiting beliefs. So beliefs that, again, when I can't help my loved one in overcome their addiction or stop using or find, make that choice to change what they're doing, we personalize it, where it's like, there's something wrong with me. I can't, as a mother, I was like, I am a horrible mother, I am not a good mother, I am not good enough. My core wounds were, I'm not good enough, then I'm not a good enough mother because I can't help my child break free from the traps of addiction. So what keeps us trapped is our own limiting beliefs, our own inner wounds that are being triggered, it's like ripping off the band-aid, as every time it starts to wound, every time my child goes deeper into addiction or has a crisis and I can't help, I get pulled into my own inner wounds, my own inner limiting beliefs that make me want to prove myself wrong, that I am good enough, that I can fix this. And that's a very destructive cycle that keeps so many families trapped. And it's normally, and just like our loved ones, it's often, we have to suffer long enough that we choose to change, we choose to do something different or we recognize this is not what I want and that we decide we want more and we decide to do more, which then puts you back into the driver's seat of your life. How do I want to show up for myself? - So you talked about underlying wounds, educate us in your experience about the thought process sometimes of parents that if their kids would just stop using, everything would be okay. And maybe what happens when they find out that that may not be true and why it's not true. - And this is yes, I would love to educate because this is something that I work specifically with all of my clients is the, when we aren't able to help our children, the thought process is again, we personalize it that it is our fault. I have never met a parent that doesn't have a belief that it is their fault. And hi, my name's Jen, I'm my first client. And even when I said, I know it's not my fault, deep down, I really believed it was somehow my fault. And we have to come to a place of recognizing that we haven't maybe done everything right, there's been areas where I didn't show up the way maybe my child needed me to show up, understanding that trauma isn't just what happens to you, it's also what doesn't happen to you. So there's so much at play. Trauma is the meaning that somebody places on a circumstance or an event that they have experienced. The meaning changes the way that they see themselves, others in the world around us. So we can't be responsible for our children's addiction or anybody's addiction. We can, however, recognize through compassion, and this is being able to really become present, become present and conscious as a parent of what are the thoughts that I'm thinking, what are the, and they're limiting thoughts that keep me trapped in the cycles with my child. So being able to really spot where you're being controlled or limited through your unhealed trauma or programming and conditioning. So stigma plays a role with the traps, societal pressures play a role in the traps. Like, you know, there's so much to unpack when it comes to the thought process because there's so much programming that most of us aren't aware of because we are unconscious or we are disconnected from the ability to really be present because it's too overwhelming. - You spoke about societal pressures. Can you talk about what some of the societal pressures are? 'Cause I feel a lot of parents see that as a challenge for their children and feeding into some, you know, negative behavior or things that they don't wanna see their kids getting into. - I think societal pressure is, you know, anybody who's struggling with addiction is, you know, you hear at these terms that are used for people that are struggling with addiction and it's heartbreaking as a parent because all I see is my child. I don't see, like even though there's this addiction monster, there is your child and then there is addiction and they are actually very different. They are not the same. You know, this idea that you are your addiction, you are not your addiction. It's like somebody with cancer. You don't say, I'm cancer, I'm not addiction. Addiction is an experience. So the stigma is still this shame around addiction, the shame around mental health and the core of mental health and addiction again is trauma, is a deep rooted pain and addiction does not discriminate. And unfortunately, until you experience having a loved one in addiction or you experience addiction yourself, it's very difficult to understand. So the biggest piece is compassion. We need to be more compassionate. We need to break the stigma and isolating people that are struggling with addiction and we need to come at it from a place of compassion. Compassion for a person who is in extreme amount of pain and that substance is what is their solution right now. It is their survival to try to relieve that deep rooted pain. And if we can look at people in addiction struggling with that type of compassion and see what is really underneath it, to remember that they are human beings, that they are souls having this human experience of deep rooted pain, we give them space to be able to feel that pain, to be accepted and safe to feel that pain, which then allows them to finally find that healing, to move forward into recovery. If we can find compassion, we can change and we can end the crisis of addiction. - I just had a thought, actually, when you talked about trauma usually being the underlying reason or what's fueling the addiction. In your experience, and I may be completely off base here, but I know that some people have fallen into addiction and there wasn't trauma. So I guess what I'm asking is parents of kids who, maybe we're put on a medication and they became addicted to or a loved one or a husband. Do you see the clients in your group and going through a different type of experience? We associate a lot of that guilt because our child has trauma and then we reflect on ourselves and what we did or didn't do. Is that level still there for parents of children who maybe didn't have a trauma, but ended up addicted through medical or prescriptions or something like that? - So that's a really interesting question because trauma is, again, a very misunderstood experience. And yes, there are different types of addiction and some people are, they have surgery and they're placed on medication and they become addicted to their medication. But if you take it further and this is where we're kind of going deeper here is all ailments, disease or disease, stem from trauma, unhealed trauma. And trauma still is at the core when as far as my theory or my belief system around this. When we are experiencing a physical symptom, it is often stemming from energy trapped in the body that semantically is blocking energy and is creating that disease. Now trauma isn't always from this lifetime. We also have ancestral trauma. So even though you may not experience, and this is true for many people, they're not experiencing an actual trauma in this lifetime, but they're experiencing trauma through generations of trauma. So often we think like this something's wrong with me and it's actually genetically passed through DNA epigenetically. So epigenetics is like a tag on your DNA stemming from lineages of trauma. So addiction, most often if you look back in the family lineage, there is mental health and addictions. So to me, there is still some unhealed trauma that is energetically in the body, even if you didn't experience that trauma. - So theoretically, some people are predisposed to being addicted. You can put a child A and child B on painkillers and one may be predisposed to becoming addicted where child B successfully goes through their treatment and they'll become addicted, is that? - Yes, yeah, yes. And also there's a bigger piece too is this subconscious. The subconscious is also connected genetically and through our DNA. So the subconscious mind is what actually happens with addiction is there's a disconnection. So this is another piece of it where we have, even somebody who maybe has had surgery and is addicted to medications and they want to stop. There's a subconscious belief system there as well that is embedding them into the cycles of addiction. So subconscious thought is where we become disconnected from the truth of who we are. So part of the addictive process is there's a gap between who we think we are and who we truly are. So this goes into, again, limiting beliefs but even deeper into false identities. So who am I? So even like an Indra, I don't know, I'm trying to think like a football player, Indra's his knee on playing football. He's based on Medicaid. - Yeah, car accident, you know, horse car accident, whatever. I mean, it's so easy to do that. - Exactly. - And then exactly based on some painkillers. - That's right. And in that moment, again, trauma is so, trauma is like, it's a misunderstood word and it's an overused word. But there, something happens in a situation like that where we become disconnected from who we are. The identity in that football player is, he's a football player, that is his identity. Now all of a sudden he can't play football. And there's this panic of who am I? If I can't play football, now he's got a knee injury, now he's placed on medications and the medications become an issue because there's also things going on under the surface and subconsciously in the mind that have created another false identity. And there's pain, physical pain and emotional pain. We're still trying to find relief from pain. Addiction is not the substance. It is finding relief, temporary relief from a pain. So physical pain or emotional pain. Where we become dependent on that thing, that substance or that thing, whether it's gaming or pornography or work, it's a attempt to find relief from that pain. But then it ends up having negative consequences which we can't give up on. We're unable to give up that substance. - I think that has always been a question people have had. How do some people end up and addict and some people don't when they have similar experiences? And I think that sort of clarifies it. Talk to us about, you know, you talked about earlier about misconceptions and you touched on boundaries. Can you clearly define what boundaries are and who they're for? So maybe people can better understand, you know, how they serve them. - Mm-hmm. I like to say that boundaries are your ability to protect your own self-worth. Boundaries are very misunderstood. Most people believe that boundaries are to be enforced upon somebody else. It is there there to change somebody else, to make sure that that person isn't gonna do A, B, or C. And this is where we get caught this boundaries, you know, intermesh with enabling and codependency. Because most people that are struggling with family members in addiction or anywhere in our lives, if we can't set a boundary, there is a disconnection of our self-worth where we don't feel worthy to set or draw a line in the sand of what we will or will not tolerate. So I used to try to enforce boundaries and it was all about, you know, an example of, you know, you're not gonna use drugs in my house and you're not gonna have paraphernalia in my house. And if you do, you're out of here, right? So what's the intention behind the boundary? The boundary is I don't want my child to use or I don't want that person to be using. So I'm gonna tell them they can't use in my house. Well, they're gonna use when they're gonna use, what the boundary is to protect my own worth, to protect myself, to protect my energy, to protect my health. So the boundary is about me, not them. - How would you deliver that boundary then? In that example that you used, how would you deliver a boundary? - Well, I would deliver a boundary saying same thing. So I will not tolerate drugs, paraphernalia, or use in my house of any way. And if you continue or you choose to do so, you will be choosing to live elsewhere. And again, we don't have to get into all the reasoning. The other thing is we have to negotiate and explain and validate why we have the boundary. No, the boundary is this is the boundary. And it's for me because if you decide to use, that's your choice, it's your life, it's your journey. I don't want to be around you under the influence. I don't want to be living with paraphernalia in my home. It makes me uncomfortable. I don't feel safe in that environment and this is my home. And this is, so it's about me. It's not about changing them. It's about how do I wanna live? How do I wanna show up? How do I protect my worth, my health, my happiness? - And I think that-- - And then there's a choice because I only have control over me. Boundaries are about me. I can't control them. But if they choose to do that, they're welcome to do that. I'm gonna love you. I'm gonna love you unconditionally. I'm gonna accept where you are that you're not ready to give up your substance at this time. But it won't be in my home. - And I think that's a very difficult thing, especially as you were saying, as a mom, to say I'm not going to tolerate something and then wanna also protect your child at the same time. - And that's a big struggle because there's this, again, a belief system that has been programmed into us that it is selfish to prioritize self. And to me, prioritizing self is the most purest way of self-love. And self-love and boundaries are a way for you to be of influence, to show your child what self-love looks like. What boundary setting looks like, yes. So you become a living example. You're a mere reflection for them to show them what they need to do for themselves. You can't make them do it. But this is where it comes back to as your own recovery, working your own healing, you become a woman of influence. You become a beacon of light. You become a mere reflection of what recovery and self-love and self-healing looks like. - You can't be a model of behavior. You want your child to replicate if you are knee deep in the toxicity and the addiction yourself. - And you can't even be using, but in the throes of it as well. You must become addicted to the protecting your child as opposed to modeling and giving them a place to go or worse. - That's right. And that's really the truth. Is codependency is one of the seven traps that I've identified of addiction. And codependency really is emotional addiction. It's relationship addiction. So just like I said, when I started, I became addicted to my addicted. I became addicted to trying to save them. It's the same thing and enabling is trying to find relief. I'm gonna give him money because I just need to feel okay knowing that he has food. Even if I think maybe he's using it for substance. Like, you know, and we do this because it's our way of finding temporary relief, which is the same as somebody using substance. - Talk to us, you had said your seven traps. Talk to us about what people would find at your website because you have a free master class. Talk to us about what that is and maybe kind of walk us through some of the information someone would get in that class, master class. - Yeah, so please, you know, go check out EnableNoMore.ca. I've got a bunch of free resources and some paid resources available for you. But I have a free master class, which is breaking the cycles, breaking free from the seven traps of addiction. So I have identified seven traps that are keeping you and your loved ones trapped in the cycles of suffering and destruction. And when we're able to identify, so we talked about boundaries, boundaries is one of those seven traps. Trauma is another trap of addiction. And most families don't understand the cycles that are actually going on. All they know is they're living in chaos and crisis and they are emotionally and physically depleted, but they don't know what to do. They don't know how to change. They've tried everything and nothing seems to be working. So they end up feeling helpless and powerless, which is very disempowering and a dangerous place to be because we all bend when we don't have hope and we are desperate, you know, we can feel very, again, very isolated and alone and continue being trapped in these cycles and become very, very sick. So, you know, the traps of addiction are there to really shine light on what is truly going on with your child and with yourself because you're both experiencing the same traps in different ways. And when we understand each other, when you understand what you're going through and what your child's going through, we can come from a place of compassion and love reconnecting with our power and our power is purpose. Our power is knowing, what am I here for and what is it that I can do? You know, a lot of things, you know, other programs, alanon, naranon, you know, they have this, the three Cs, I can't control it, I can't, didn't cause it and I can't cure it, which while those may be true, to me, they're very disempowering. I have three Cs which are self-care, self-compassion and that you are the creator of your own life. So when we can use empowering ways and powering tools and powering resources and that's what the seven traps of addiction will help you to show up in your life through the lens of self-care, self-love, self-compassion to create a new path forward with a brighter future. - Mm-hmm, tell us about your book. Tell us the title, where people find it, who the audience is, what they learn by reading it. - Yes, so a bigger mission is a co-authored book. There are 12 of us authors that came together to write this book and it really is for anybody, anybody who is struggling in any way in their life but have experienced some hardships as well and are feeling like that, why? Why is this happening to me? With each of the authors, we've all experienced really tragic or traumatic events in our lives that really had us start questioning why. And the truth is, we are all here for a bigger mission and the challenges that we face, even the most traumatic ones are there as a lesson, as a tool to help us awaken to our soul's purpose and calling, a bigger mission, that it wasn't for nothing what you went through. There is a meaning, there is a reason and it is asking you to step up and into the purpose, your bigger mission. So you can find it on Amazon, it is a beautiful read, very inspirational, motivational and it actually has real resources and tools within it that you can implement today to start changing your life and stepping into your bigger mission. - I do love a good anthology. So we will put a link to the book in the show notes. But Jennifer, what is your Monty? So as you know, Monty is our mascot here at Ba Mon City Press and he's sort of a beacon of all things inspirational, maybe a little lesson learned, like, what is your Monty? What is something somebody can learn from you right now today? - Yeah, one of my Monty's is when we heal ourselves, we heal others and that is truly what I believe that I am here to do is and we are all here to do is to do our own healing and recovery because when we are healing and recovering, when we are really stepping back into the truth of who we are, healing our pain, reconnecting with who we are, we illuminate a light out into this world and that light has a ripple effect. It allows other people to see our changes, to see that glow, to see that light and want to find that within themselves. And it is literally when I heal myself, I am healing other people because of the energetics, the energetics, everything is energy. So when I heal, I'm literally healing you. I'm healing my past lineage. I'm healing the lineages that will come after me. It is a collective healing. It's a ripple effect. It's like dropping a pebble in a little pond and you see the ripples go out. It's the exact same concept and it's energetics. So fabulous. All right, so let's do this. Let's sort of get to know the Jennifer behind the Jennifer. We're gonna do our sort of rapid fire where I give you a couple of choices and then you tell me which one speaks to you the most. Are you ready? All right, let's do it. All right, laptop or tablet? Laptop. Okay, all right. Hot coffee or iced coffee? Hot coffee. All year round? Yep. Okay. I do indulge in the ice caps here and there but I do love my morning coffee. Okay, all right. Ballet or opera? I think opera. Okay, all right. Tattoos or piercings? Tattoos. Okay, all right. Do you like Instagram or TikTok? If I have to pick one, I guess Instagram. Instagram, it's connected to Facebook so I think it's easier to get to sometimes. Do you like a barbecue or a picnic? I like a barbecue. Okay, all right. Good old barbecue. What about puzzles or crosswords? Would you rather sit down and do a puzzle or is it rather sit down and do a crossword? I probably, I'm not a big fan of either but I guess a puzzle, a puzzle. Okay, all right, that's good. And then forest or desert? Forest. Forest. Green. Love forest. I love forests, yeah, fabulous. All right, as you know, we have a guest to guest question. So the guest on the show previous to you left behind a question for you to answer during our show here today. So are you ready? I'm ready. All right. If you could completely let go of shame and love yourself, what would change for you? Mm, wow, what would change for me? I mean, I would be showing up for myself unapologetically exactly who I am with no filters, with no, you know, no worrying if I'm saying something right or showing up in a way that might not be desired. It would just be, it would give me complete freedom to be exactly who I am. Sure, I think it would give us all freedom. Yeah. So you, one more time with the website and you are a .ca, which means you are in Canada. Do you work with moms, people, adults in the US and Canada? Yes, yes, I have clients in the UK, in the US, in Australia. So I'm virtual, so I can work with you wherever you are. So it's enablenomore.ca. Yes. And that's where they can get a connection, they can connect to your book, they can get, take the free masterclass, everything that they might wanna need or need to sort of research whether or not making a connection with you is what they need. Yes, yeah, you can reach me at the website, enablenomore.ca, or you can also find me at Instagram, enablenomore as well. And yeah, that also will give you a link right to the website as well, if it's through Instagram. Fabulous. If you had 60 seconds to tell the world a story, what would they learn from you? That no matter where you are, what you've been through, how big of a mountain you think it is to climb, you have the power to change the trajectory of your life right now. No matter where you are, you have the power to change it. It all starts with you. Jennifer, I appreciate your time. It's extremely valuable and I hope I honored that here today. Thank you so much, it was beautiful, such an honor to be here with you as well. Thank you. To our listeners, if you have a story to share, visit TellUsAStorypodcast.com. If you're an aspiring author, a seasoned business owner or looking to elevate your personal brand, visit bellmonts@apress.com for expert advice on writing your own success story. Trust the next chapter because you are the author. Now, tell us a story. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (gentle music)
