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MAFS UK 2024 E1-4
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- 22 Sep 2024
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I'm Hugh. I'm Linda. Together, we're Hindat. And this is Hindacask. I think it's fair to say MAFS UK 2024 has started with a bang. It certainly has, and I think it's fair to say that I can't believe that this is only our second series of MAFS UK to cover. It seems like we've been doing it for years. It does, isn't it? Yeah. Okay, so will we hit the ground running then? Let's talk about the couples. Well, it all started with the Hindan stag parity, but there's not enough lot to say about that. A brief little introduction. I think I was kind of skipped over this here. Wasn't it the Hindan stag? There wasn't really much going on. I think the only thing really noteworthy was, was it Alex, one of the grooms? I don't know whether it was Alex or not. And he was kind of already telling the others that he might, you know, try and steal a bride if he wasn't happy with his match. It felt a little bit forced. It felt a little bit over-edited. A lot of reactions, a lot of facial stuff and all of that. I don't believe much about that. We'll see what happens though. The notable thing I would have said that we got out of that was Christina's laugh. She seemed to be the great big pain in the arse of the whole group. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Every time somebody came in. She was OTT, wasn't she? Yeah, she was screaming all over this. I'd say she's an absolute live wire. Mmm. Some crack though. Indeed, they became the force couple that we saw. Yes, Christina and Kieran. A good match. Oh, well, certainly yeah, under face of it. They both seemed to have the same energy, wild, mad, excitable, spontaneous energy. For a dress sense. I know, yeah, kind of, yeah, wouldn't be my dress sense in fairness. I don't think his dress sense would be yours either. No. But look, they worked together and yes, under face of it, they seemed like an incredible match. Yeah. I don't think I'd be very happy with that gag he pulled at the altar of the time with teeth. No. And that was, they, they've shown that on Instagram and various different things has been the big, you know, seller of the series. And I remember looking at a thinking, oh my god. This fella is a total pain in the ass at the teeth. Wow. They did look horrible on her. Oh, they look dreadful, didn't they? She got the joke. All the things that most of us would think, oh, this is going to turn her right off, including the static caravan, by the way, and we were all waiting like with baited breath for the reaction. Yeah, when she put her head in her hands, I didn't know whether she was going to laugh or cry. They really didn't. But it worked out well and she was delighted that he was living in the woods in the static caravan. His vows were a bit like, well, not as vows, his speech at the wedding was a bit OTT, wasn't it? You know, something like, take a shit on my chest or something. Oh, yeah. And what in the name of God? Well, that was his song. You had a song. I don't know. That was weird. Sorry. That was just weird. Yeah. Again, though, she thinks it's hilarious. Yeah. I think in our new relationship, though, in any couple, there needs to be kind of one, at least one sensible person that would ground the couple. They just seem like they're just going to edit each other on to do more and more weird stuff. I don't, I don't even know where this is going to go. For people like us and most viewers who do watch the show and watch it over seasons, we've always kind of had this idea that if you get people who are big extroverts and you get two of them together, the problem is that there's no regulator. There's no break of the system to hold them back and they just almost try to outdo each other. And in so doing, it gets difficult. It gets too competitive. I don't know whether it's competitive or whether they'll just literally wear each other out. But look at the very, very high energy levels with those two. Yeah. Don't know how it's going to go down with the rest of the group when they all come together. Yeah. And don't know whether anybody will get them and they definitely seem to get each other. So let's see how it goes. The honeymoon and everything else there were so good. They were so good. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. They're very, very united. It's definitely seemed to be on the same page. I suppose, I know we're not doing scores at this point in time, but at this point it's looking like 10 and 10, definitely going to stay together. Well, what we're going to do, obviously enough is the new system is walk out from week to week, whether they will each get to the end of the week and that'll be the system that we use. And as usual, I'm still not going to have a clue at the end of the series. You know, how to gain points and how to lose points. I'm just going to give my opinion and I'm going to leave all of that maths too cute. Hello, hello. You'll always win. I know. I'll win the grand list. Yeah. Yeah. You're given. You're given. A couple of who on paper and in the intro seemed to match perfectly where Emma and Casper, that didn't really happen in reality, did it? They did seem very promising and they seemed to kind of have the same things in common and had a very similar accent and a very similar kind of outlook on life. They both appeared to want to settle down, but Casper has problems. And the problem in so am I, is their similarity? They are of a similar I, similar class, okay, but also there is something a bit strange and that Emma bears a striking resemblance to Casper's sister, whose name goes out of my head. It's kind of immaterial because there's no doubt about it. There is a striking resemblance between them all, between them all, by the way. In personality, in the laugh, in the jokes, in their humor, in everything. So yeah, it was a bit disconcerting, but I think it was more disconcerting. And you know, most people would be happy that their potential partner fit in well with their family and kind of was from the get-go seemed like, you know, one of the family. They're in lies the rope. Casper has a big problem with his sister. He has a huge problem and his sister in fairness seems to be oblivious as to what that problem is or that there is a problem at all. She just seems to rub him up the wrong way. It's like, if he can't, he can't bear her laugh, he can't bear her humor, he can't bear her luck. I don't know whether it's jealousy because she has the house and the family and the husband and all of that kind of stuff, or I actually don't know what it is. I think it's, she has a strength of character and a strength of personality and he finds that difficult for a female. Maybe so. Maybe so. But he was brought up by females. He was brought up by his mother and his sister. So you think he'd be more comfortable. And he certainly seems to be very comfortable in the company with his mom and seems to have a close relationship with his mom. There's something going on there, just something going on with our Casper. Yeah. And on the other hand, I think she's delightful. I think she's lovely. I think she's, you know, she's loud, she's courageous, she's, it appears to be ambitious. She's independent. She knows herself. Yeah. And she's, she, I don't, she doesn't come across as one bit needy. Yeah. But, you know, she did, she did kind of. She's had big problems in the dating pool. She has. But look, I think that's probably because she just wasn't in a position where she was even really bothered to find somebody. I don't think we're being told the full story. We're going to find out more. Oh, we are. Look, that's always the case. Day wasn't quite safe. Yeah. This is just literally the initial observations. We'll be eating these words now by week through your forehead. So interesting when you listen back to what, you know, you see on the show as it goes on. Lacey and Nathan, Lacey has more unusual backgrounds, a mixed heritage as a wear Irish Jamaican. Well, that's hardly unusual. But yeah. Yes. She does have, it appears that her dad's Irish and her mum has a Jamaican descent somewhere. Yeah. But she's a twin. Yes. And that's really where this whole, it makes it much more pronounced. This problem as a wear in that her twin is very different looking tour and is a different style as a wear to her. Yeah. So all of Lacey's life, she's been compared to her twin sister and her twin sister, like it looks like she's pretty or she's big brown eyes, softer features, you know, she's kind of petite. Yeah. And she's been compared and she's been compared unfavorably with her sister. So I suppose the big thing that stood out for me was this was, they've been talking, talking and talking about this, the fact that, you know, the twin sister is better looking than Lacey. Lacey knows the groom going to react and then the groom thinks that the sister is the bride when she walks up the aisle and he turns around and goes, well, that has happened though, loads of times on the show. I know. But the amount of people who actually rubbed Lacey's nose and it was actually, that was horrible. You know, her friends rubbed her nose and her own mother came up and rubbed her nose in it as if to say, ah, do you know what I mean? No, it's like, I knew he'd fancy your sister. Like, why would he fancy you? Like, that was obvious. We all knew that was going to happen. It's one thing we all do and everybody does it with twins is the first thing, if you hear those twins, are those twins common to your place of work or whatever it is? The first thing you do is you compare the two of them and see how alike they are. That must be tiring for twins. Oh, look at that. I come from a family where I have twin brothers and twin sisters and both sets of twins are utterly different in every way. That's right. Yeah, it's utterly different in every way. So, you know, I don't really get that comparison thing. You wouldn't even think that my brothers and sisters were related. I know. But the fact that they are so different is probably the thing that they're seeking hearing. Maybe so. Maybe so. Yeah. But, you know, I think the other, the fact that the twin sister has ADHD, she was diagnosed with ADHD. Right. So, that kind of brings us into Nathan, yeah, into Nathan. When you see Nathan, ladies, I'm sure, swoon. He's a good looking lad. He's a very good looking lad, but he's a buddy to die for. He has a tat, he has a tan, he has a lovely eyes, his teeth, and a cheeky, chappy kind of grin. Yeah. And then he opens his mouth and it doesn't really match what you're looking at. No. And you see, that's the thing. I mean, I'd be kind of thinking, okay, he's not the sharpest knife in the vlog. No. Really and truly. And save your files like us. Pick up at these things. Yeah. Very much so. But at the same time, he seems to have a very successful career. Is he some sort of an engineer or something like that? Yeah. He's obviously super intelligent, but he doesn't appear to have too many street smarts. He's kind of socially awkward, I would say. Yeah. You know, he is a little bit awkward. I know he loves the gym. He loves his parents. And but he's just a little, he's just, he doesn't read the room or something. Yeah. And we see that again, again, again, again, at the wedding, at the honeymoon, it's just made so much more difficult by his reaction, especially to Lacey's story about the driving and the fact that, you know, she doesn't drive because she was a two friend source. Two friends of ours. Yeah. And she was a character. And as well. Yeah. Absolutely. I was very sad. Yeah. But he completely appeared to lack empathy every time she told that story and, you know, I don't know. It gets that ADHD. That kind of lack of empathy is that ADHD when you just appear, like not to be able to read the room and I don't know, even in this, even in the speech, he was going to make in bags that we're just clangers. Yeah. Absolute clangers. It's like me thinking that's not what I understood ADHD to be, but look. We're not doctors. We're not doctors. Let us be honest about this. Yeah. That's what the show is telling us. So we'll just take whatever the show is telling us. Yeah. He does this. Let's just leave it at that. When the diagnosis of somebody else's business, he does this and this is a problem. It would be a problem for me if I was telling them what she was telling him and get the reaction she's getting. Look, towards the end, we did kind of see glimmers of hope, you know, that he did seem to be more forthcoming with compliments, et cetera. I think Lacey is needy in that she needs to be complimented. She maybe kind of felt all of her life that she played second fiddle to her sister. So she needs somebody who is all about her, who compliments her, who makes her feel safe and secure. Nice. Won't cut it. And nice won't cut it. And why should it in fairness? So it'd be interesting to see the dynamics between these two. I think they could be like a success or an absolute failure, you know, an absolute failure because I think Lacey might be more of a safety file, you know, then, well, she definitely is more of a safety file than Nathan, whereas I think Nathan just really trades on looks and superficial. I thought the watches and the clothes and all that he spends, stupid money. He seems very immature in that way. He seems very immature and kind of superficial. And Lacey kind of just seems to have more of a grip on reality. I'm going to, I'm not going to agree with you that it'll be one way or the other. I think it's going to run right down the middle. It's going to be one of those things where she does go out of her way to try and appease them and to try and help them like she has with her sister. And I think they'll all try and keep them in because I think they'll give good value of those pair. I can see us marching it between cracks in our fingers for weeks and weeks and weeks. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. We wanted those to be another one of those stories where Lacey I think will absolutely try to kind of help and support Nathan, knowing she'll do whatever she can to move the relationship on. I think Nathan will be oblivious to it most of the time. And then it will be one of those situations where Lacey will one day turn around and say, you know what, no, sorry, not worth it. This is not for me. I need to just bury this and move on, you know, every cat or every pot has a lid and he's not the lid for my pot, basically. And then all of a sudden, Nathan will realize that he actually is in love with Lacey, but it'll be too late. Because let's face it, Nathan is certainly in love with Nate right now, actually in love. Yeah. So that's my prediction. But we'll see how it goes. Who are the next couple? Eve and Charlie. Um, Eve loves Eve as well. Yeah. She's rather fond of herself. Yeah. This is another one. And again, you know, up until the honeymoon, I was thinking wedding is great, the attraction, yeah, they both got what they ordered. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's built very much as that. Very much so. Because they're equally each other is looking for no doubt about it. They're very different. But that's what they want. Even with, you know, living in different countries, um, obviously Eve is from Northern Ireland. Charlie's from the UK. Charlie was kind of going, "Yep. That's fine. Don't mind the travel. Don't be fore. No issues with it." Um, and she seems to be embracing the whole thing and thinks there's no one like Charlie. Yeah. No, sorry. Charlie thinks there's no one like Eve. Yeah. I'm not sure if Eve would go jump in that quickly. And Charlie loves the Irish accent as well, so she may listen to the podcast over time. And if she's listening to the podcast, say hello. In the cast, reality, the GMM.com. We get a little taste of what's the calm and what's to be the big issue it seems with them to. When Eve mentions, was it that little huddle up bit that they do? And after the wedding, after the reception kind of thing? Oh, when they sit outside. Yeah. In the freezing cold. Yeah. Absolutely. And she says, I may go off on one and I may be very annoyed with you. Just give me five minutes. Give me five minutes on my own and it'll all be right as rain and everything will be fine. And Charlie naturally says, yeah, no problem at all. Well, that's understatement of the year. This girl needs minimum 24 hours to cool down. Oh, you know, I think Eve has a problem really, um, taking other people's feelings into consideration. Now, I get everything she said because, you know, certainly that we process, um, you know, disagreements and things separately. Um, you're always kind of saying to me, how could you just fall asleep? How could you fall asleep? I'm kind of up worried about it all night, can't get it, can't get it, you know, can't get a wink of sleep and you're literally snoring your brains out, you know, but, and I would come to you maybe a couple days later and say to you, I have an issue with what you said. Do you remember when you said this? And you're surprised saying, why didn't you say to me at the time? Like, my God. Yeah. Yeah. I need to get things started out very quickly. You really need immediate gratification, whereas I kind of, I need to take time with them. No, I do. I need to process things. I need to kind of understand, you know, what's happening here, what, what exactly is happening? And I need to kind of understand my reaction to it as well, you know, am I reading too much into this? Am I reacting badly? You know, I do. I need to mull over things for a while. And then if I can't move on for then, then I bring it up, you know, and usually it's just miscommunication, certainly with us. And I think that might be the case. I'm wondering if they're actually listening to each other. Are they listening to hear? Yeah. So I think the, the experts will have their, their work cut out with this couple. Well, they'll have to work cut out in that Charlie is very, very needy and will, and said after the get go here, can't sit back at all from the situation and just let it, you know, let it sit. And I, I have to say though, I do think she was trying, she was trying, she, she knows her issues and she was trying to address them. Eve wasn't trying one little bit at all. No, I don't think, no, I really don't think that Eve was trying to address them. So I think potentially, you know, I think Eve has an ick already. I think, I think she has an ick and I don't know whether she's going to get over that. When she doesn't like the needy, it's just happened, is that the problem? Is that the problem? The need is the ick, is it? Yeah. I think that is the ick. Yeah. I think, yeah. Charlie's already said that she's in love, you know. Yeah. Eve can't be doing with that at all. That sort of thing is just going to push Eve right back. Yeah. I don't even know whether. Like they spent three nights out of their honeymoon apart because it already too late for these two. It's only way back. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I said it to you at the time. I think that those two are dead in the water already. I don't have to zoom any point in them checking in. Yeah. Eve is coming across as cold and Charlie's coming across as needy. I kind of worry about Charlie, you know, in the whole process, if it continues, will it damage her psychologically? Mm-hmm. Will it emotionally? No. Will it actually damage her? Will she be worse off on these? Yeah. And that's one of those things. There's one person in every series I think that you kind of go, this person shouldn't be let on the show. There's a few people. There's one person that stands out as being, they shouldn't have been let on the show. And I don't know whether it's Eve or Charlie, really, I don't know whether Charlie's way too vulnerable are Eve is far too destructive in a relationship and it'll be very hard and horror as well too, I'm not trying to say it all one way or not, you're a, you know, like yes or a gay couple, but I think Eve absolutely has that kind of masculine energy, almost kind of misogyny, I don't, absolutely, she's almost trying so hard to take on male characteristics that it's just everything a man shouldn't be. Yeah. Kind of. Look, it's, well, let's get rid of the benefit of the day for God's sake. Oh. And obviously, yeah. It is. And the, the experts will have their, their workout, but if they can manage to work their way through this and communicate properly, I think they have a lot of potential, a lot of potential. Yes, I do. No, seriously. I could actually see them going the whole way. I don't know. It's not good. Probably an Adam and looking good either. Oh, no. If anybody's in love with himself, it's Adam, like, give me a break. I mean, seriously, his bear chugly deed himself, he's an okay looking lad, but he's all rice, you know, like, in fairness, like he has a very inflated opinion of himself in an absolutely way. No, but he thinks he's God's gift, like, is absolutely gorgeous. Yeah. And his demands are high. He wants, you know, one hell of a particular kind of woman, she, she's got to be quite corry. She's got to be dark features, busty, bum, all that kind of things. That's what he wants. Yeah. Well, I kind of was, I kind of glossed over that bit because like, you know, you're turned out. It was just turned off. He just didn't like him as a person. No. He actually booked me. He really did book me. And he gets Polly, who is quite genuine down to earth, bubbly, but she is not that sort of fear of a woman and type of a woman that he's looking for at all. Yeah. So, I mean, Adam is in fairness, basing everything solely on looks at this point. It's like as if he's not even getting to, he's not bothering to get to know her. If there isn't that instant physical attraction, he's already checked out. I thought he was quite rude to her at the altar and didn't make any compliments looking like that. No, he may know. He just, he just, you could see the look of this appointment on his face when she walked up the aisle. That was so destroyed. Well, she has a male best friend and he cops her all. He's there. He's the voice of reason. Alfie. Yeah. Alfie. Alfie. Alfie, our hero. I think he's really trying to kind of save her by giving her all of these home through. Yeah. But it's actually, it is her. I know. It was terrible to watch it though, wasn't it? It was painful to remember. Yeah. She was wounded by what he was telling her that, you know, what he was reporting back for. She wanted to hear it and he gave it. And he gave it. Yeah. Again, I can't look. I don't know. I don't know. Like, will Adam ever love anybody else? Well, their honeymoon footage is going to be interesting. The honeymoon is really where it's at, isn't it? The honeymoon is when you start to get a fair authentication of how it's going to go. It just as well as that. It kind of just seems like another curvy girl, two curvy girls on the series and both of them seem to be getting a higher time from their grooms. Like, their grooms seem to expect something else or thought that they deserved something else or something better in their eyes. You know, I don't know. It's a bit unfair and it's a bit unrealistic, isn't it? You know, it's stereotypical. Yes. I mean, and even going back to Emma and Casper and, you know, Emma kind of saying, "I'm size 14. I'm not a monster." I have to say, well, okay, well, as soon as you brought it up, I taught and certainly online I see comments and people say, "There's no way I deserve to go to size 14." Ah, so what? Now, hang on with you. Let's just say that the camera adds 10 pounds anyway, right? Okay. But it's regardless. She's not a monster. And Casper did say, "She's a lovely looking girl. She's a lovely person. She is a pretty girl. Yes. She is. Yeah. And Casper said he struggled with his ways. He said he struggled with his ways throughout his teenage years. Yeah, he's not a teenager. And he's not a teenager. No, he's not. He's not. He's very proud to put on weights. Okay. Both loads of small girls want tall fellas. And? But they still want tall fellas. Tall girls want tall fellas. And there's some justification in that. But loads of small girls want tall fellas. Right. Okay. But it's what you're attracted to. Absolutely, yeah. And most people are kind of, you know, emotionally intelligent enough to look behind that and realize that really how tall a man or a woman is isn't really going to affect quality of a relationship. Okay. Most people are. Most people are. Most people are. Yes. I do think so. Yeah. Maybe some people that, oh, that's, he's not tall enough. He's not what I ordered. And all of this. And in theory, they would like a taller person. I think a lot of that kind of, I'm going to put on my psychology hashtag. I think a lot of that stems from the fact that women want to feel protected. Okay. They want somebody bigger. They want somebody stronger. Yeah. And they want to feel protected. But I suppose, you know, that's, that's a need that they have in themselves. You know, obviously you can feel completely protected by somebody of, you know, lesser height, smaller stature, whatever the case may be. And I feel protected if somebody has a stronger personality, you know, somebody who's got my back. And that's in a personality type. That's how they treat me and how they interact with me and the people around me. And more so than, you know, their, how they look or whether or not they go to the gym. Right. Look, I never want to be in a situation where that's important anywhere where I need somebody big and strong and buff and, you know, I don't know, black belt crash is something to look right to me. Right. Well, here's the thing. What, what just I ain't fair enough is that the two larger girls shall we say on the show. Right. And in both cases, they're getting a hard time. Okay. Would it have been better though, to put them with people who had said right from the get go, I have no problem with a larger lady. I think possibly they're trying to teach the guys a lesson in that you're too superficial. You need to what you thought was your type in the past obviously hasn't worked out for you. Right. You know, size isn't a be all and end all. And you need to get to know this person as a person and look at the qualities, look at everything they bring to the table. Yeah. You know, apart from how those initial looks anyway, like if you're going to based on looks, I would have run a mile and I saw it, I mean, she wouldn't be my tea at all. So, you know, like, look, look, look, look, Christine and, and Kieran and I went on and gone backwards here. Yeah. That's a huge problem when I hit a massive problem. He was going on and on and on and on about his own. We didn't mention that. Yeah. He was actually making himself smaller. Yeah. He was like a larger lady or a larger fella constantly going on about the waiter all the time. It's like, for God's sake, you going on about your weight has a much greater effect on how people react to you than your, their weight itself. Yeah, absolutely. Like, you know, come on, Kieran, like there's nothing you can do about your height. No. And again, if you find the right person, it doesn't matter whether you're a five foot nothing or six foot 10, like, you know, they're going to love you for, for what you bring to the table. You know, not just how you look. But there you go. In fairness, he didn't get a woman who had a problem with his height in, in Kristina. And Kristina said all the right things about it. She said, you know, something, you know, you just, you made yourself six foot. That's exactly. And she did her with all her, you know, all of her silliness and, you know, all of her humor and her fabulously optimistic outlook on life and, you know, ridiculously optimistic. So far. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She did kind of display that emotional intelligence, you know, that he was able to say the writing and make them feel great. But again, look at quite more. Yeah. It's almost at the top couple, but you know something, that type of personality, it could just, that could just fizzle it. Exactly. It could be a big, you know, blast and everything is perfect and then gone. It's gone. And it could be like Jesse and Claire, you know, the start of so well. And then they go for a drink and it all kicks off. Yeah, absolutely. That's Australia. Yeah. And that was, you know, competition as well between the two of them and that was so bad actually. Yeah, it was. So the last couple then that we need to talk about are Sasha and Ross, another kind of a weird on the face, but I was looking at, I was looking at the end and I said, you shouldn't say weird. No, and I was saying weird couple in that. Why were they matched? I couldn't understand why they were matched, the logic behind it. So Sasha is an only child. So her, both her parents are bodybuilders. Yeah. And they trade them, saying she's very close, she's a real daddy's girl. She's a real kind of a Barbie girl, by her own admission, girly girl. She has a particular type and her type would be, you know, tall, strong, both well-built, all of those kind of things. Tats, along comes Ross, and there is Ross, tall, tall, tight, well-built. Well, he's both now. He originally was a footballer and stuff quite a decent footballer, profoundly deaf, profoundly deaf. Right from birth. His parents, it's not a genetic thing when that his parents aren't deaf and nobody else in this immediate family at the moment have hearing difficulties. He does, but he speaks quite well for somebody who would profound hearing loss. And he is a daughter. He's a big softie side to him as well. He does, yeah, very much so, yeah. I think, you know, he talks, he talks a different game and he talks as if, oh, yeah, I can't wait for the wedding. I can't wait for the shag and, you know, all of these raisin red flags because Sasha is celibate. Yeah, I know. And we haven't really had this one before, so much on the shows. She was in a relationship and her, and that relationship ended after a number of years. And she has just decided I'm not going to have sex with anybody until I know it's a commissioned relationship, they're in it for the long haul, and then things will get going at the bedroom. Yeah. So we were all kind of wondering how Ross was going to react to this considering he was really looking forward to the wedding night and the shag, he was going to guess potentially at the end of the wedding. He called it jail. Okay. Yeah, but in fairness to him when his, his buddy, he didn't even know what celibate was. No, that was funny. He's so far from his, he literally didn't know what it was. That was funny. What did the guy tinker? Yeah, he really had to spell it out. He did. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. He's not the brightest tool like that. No, he's not. No. And both like, then you see that touching moment again when he's sitting inside again in the freezing cold. Of course. With the fire. Yeah. Of course. And, and he was absolutely fine. He offered to, to sleep on the sofa and give her as much time as she needs and all that kind of stuff. You know, again, different to what we were led to believe prove with the pudding and all of that. Well, half a story again. We haven't seen Donnie Moons for Sasha and Ross. So they're really half a story at this point. It's looking okay between them, isn't it? I think it has potential. Yeah. And I mean, there's the body building thing between them anyway in that she has with the with her background and all of that, although she got into the pageantry. She did give it to pageantry. And you know, I just, I can't go to kill if we're going back now. No. I'm just thinking about our mom. Sasha's mom. She's just like, I don't know. I don't know. She's, she's, she's not what you expect. Do you not expect? No. As far as my address, my address is a dad and, but there you have a very, very long-term relationship. Yeah. Think about mom's den, you know, and, you know, what is it a bride and others as a groom, et cetera. And the mother of the bride that really stood out was Lacey's mother. Oh, God. And the way she was coming on to Nathan, and oh, it was mortifying, it was so embarrassing. It was, it was a Tori's mom who was going on about Jack in maps Australia as well. Yes. So there's parallels there. No, this, I mean, this was even worse than when it was cringy, absolutely cringy, you know, which was so outspoken about it. Yeah. It was, it was, it was horrible. One last thought on Sasha and Ross, one thing about Sasha's celibacy, could it be because she herself was conceived so quickly by the mom and dad, they said that they were a month together when they found out she was a baby on the way. Well, we can't understand why that didn't make a difference because they certainly, her parents are still together 30 years later. Hang on. Well, is she? Are they 30 years together? Right. Yeah. Is she dirty? No, she couldn't be 30. I think she might be. Yeah. Well, let's check that one out. But anyway, look at their still together. They seem to be very, very happy in the relationship and to treat them, get on very, very well. So now I don't think that would employ that to his mistake and that they, they would have, you know, planned it otherwise. Okay. Force week. How do we rate the force week? Has potential. Yeah. Has potential. Classic math force week, really. Yeah. I'm not looking at it going. Oh my God, this is going to be explosive. It's going to be amazing. Can't wait for this. You know, I'm more looking at it kind of thinking, oh, this is interesting. And a lot of that as listeners will no doubt know who listened to us on the maths UK series for. No, it's based on the fact that we're not so keen on the experts on this show, particularly our friend Paul. Paul really rubs you up, doesn't he? Absolutely. I would not be too keen on Charlene because I don't actually believe that Charlene adds anything, you know, and whether it's that she's not allowed to talk. I don't exactly know what her role is. She's no Alessandra. Oh, she's not going to sound, you know, and it's like as if, you know, when she does say things that she's reading off a script, this is what you have to say. So look, I'd like to see more input from the expert. Probably there was a lot of input on the experts on the maths Australia. Otherwise, and you noticed actually Alessandra got a much greater role on maths Australia. The last season, you could really feel that she really was brought in almost as an equal to Melissa. So, and that's just a little add on. I mean, the sexologist, when they introduced them has kind of just been an add on where, I don't know, anyway, look, have a good series, guys, let's stick with it. It's doing all the classic things that maps UK does so far. We've had, you know, the breadth you could see. We've had the wedding dresses being trailed across horrible muddy grass. Why did they look like they do that? Why did they always film it in the winter? I can't get my head around that. I'm not so sure. I think if they filmed it in the winter, the problem would be that again, they'd run it through. It would be the wrong time of the year. They want it as a court and razor to maths Australia, and they can't have it coming on the same time as maths Australia. They really should film it in the British summertime, British, like, early spring, well spring into summer, but they can't really do that. Okay, well, look, if they're going to film it in the middle of winter, death to winter, it's really freezing cold. They should at least acknowledge that, that it's cold, you know, I'm kind of... I have winter weddings. Well, yeah, like, proper weddings. Yeah, and they wanted to look like this, like, the Australian one traditionally has shots of these brides walking through a field up a hill and all this kind of thing, you know? Yeah, with the different climates. So they just need to... I don't know. Need to embrace that. Yeah, that's good. Get over it. But look, we delighted to be back. Yeah. And we're looking forward to some more interaction this year with you guys. Totally. HindercastReality@gmail.com. Send us an email, tell us what you think. Tell us what you think of the podcast. Tell us your predictions. Oh, yes, because every week, pretty much from now, going forward, the next show, we'll be going through the couples and deciding their chances of making it through the week. And we'd love to hear if you agree with us. So then, keep watching Maths UK. Later, guys. Bye for now. 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