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Nine Justices v. Baby Jesus.

Send us a textWhen Christmas decorations go too far, what’s a city to do? In 1984, a nativity scene in Pawtucket, Rhode Island, set the stage for an all-out courtroom drama. Enter Lynch v. Donnelly, where one man’s fight to remove baby Jesus from government property snowballed into a Supreme Court showdown. Was it the war on Christmas or just the constitution doing its job? Tune in as we unpack the legal back-and-forth with a little holiday cheer - and a whole lot of gavel-smashin...

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When Christmas decorations go too far, what’s a city to do? In 1984, a nativity scene in Pawtucket, Rhode Island, set the stage for an all-out courtroom drama. Enter Lynch v. Donnelly, where one man’s fight to remove baby Jesus from government property snowballed into a Supreme Court showdown.  Was it the war on Christmas or just the constitution doing its job?  Tune in as we unpack the legal back-and-forth with a little holiday cheer - and a whole lot of gavel-smashing. Spoiler alert: even the wise men couldn’t save this one.

Interested in reading  Lynch v. Donnelly: use this link
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/465/668/

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it's everywhere. The courthouse, the airport, the school. At first it's subtle, a nativity scene on the courthouse lawn, a Christmas banner hanging in the airport terminal, but over time it starts to feel like something more, like a virus quietly spreading through every corner of public life. For you, it's not just about decorations, it's about what they represent. A government stepping into places it doesn't belong, slowly but surely. Most people walk past the scenes without a second thought. You start to question yourself. I'll be in a Grinch, a bitter old man, I must be. Nobody else seems to care, but the more you see it, the more it festers. You try to look the other way but everywhere you turn, it's there and there and there. Then one day as you pull up to the courthouse, you see it. A manger across and a baby Jesus. You've seen it dozens of times before, but this time it's different. This is the final straw. You know you have to do something, but what? [Music] It started quietly, almost with a whisper, one man against an activity scene. John Doe filed his lawsuit, claimed the display of violated separation of church and state, but once the news broke, it was anything but quiet. In a matter of days, headlines screamed across the nation. Man sues to stop Christmas. Local Grinch takes on baby Jesus. The reactions were swift. Church leaders condemned the lawsuit, calling it an attack on religious freedom. Sermons were dedicated to defending the Nativity and congregations rallied around the idea of keeping Christ in Christmas. One pastor went as far as to declare, "For the love of God please!" Local newspapers followed suit. Letters to editors poured in. Yes, it seems at first they took away our prayers in school. Now they're coming for our Christmas decorations. What's next? Bending Christmas all together. The story spread quickly. National media picked up on the tail, and before he knew it, John Doe became a household name, the man who had declared war on a baby in the manger, but there were also those who supported Doe's case. Civil rights groups, constitutional scholars, and other religious minorities jumped into the fray. They argued that it was about keeping the government neutral on matters of faith. No one's banning Christmas. We're just asking the government not to endorse one particular religion. [Music] In the courtroom, the debate over the Nativity scene took on a life of its own. On one side, the town argued that Christmas was a national holiday, and the Nativity scene was simply part of the tradition. Your Honor, Christmas is as American as apple pie and fireworks on the 4th of July. A Nativity scene on public property, it's just a decoration. Part of the season's spirit are we really going to take offense at three wise men. But Doe's attorney had a different view. It's not about the three wise men, he argued. It's about what they represent. When the government allows religious displays, it's endorsing one religion over another. That's not just a slippery slope. It's a constitutional violation. The local judge wasn't too concerned. He dismissed the case with a wave of his hand saying, "It's just a Nativity scene. Christmas is a part of our culture." What's next? Banning Christmas carols? One point. One point. Baby Jesus. Baby Jesus. But John Doe wasn't done. He appealed and the case moved to a higher court. This time, the judge ruled in Doe's favor, citing the establishment clause. The government cannot endorse religion. Even during Christmas, one point for John Doe. And so the score was tied. One win for baby Jesus. One for John Doe. But the Nativity scene wasn't out of the picture just yet. This was only the beginning. [Music] The case finally made its way to the highest court in the land, the Supreme Court. Nine justices, robes flowing, ready to weigh in on the fate of Christmas. It's not every day that the nation's top legal minds get to decide whether or not three wise men can stay on a courthouse lawn. But that's exactly what was happening. Counselor, are you asking the court to ban all holiday decorations? What's next? The Christmas tree in the White House? Your Honor, we're not here to ban Christmas. We're here to defend the separation of church and state. It was a classic clash of holiday cheer and constitutional law. And John Doe was at the center of it all. Meanwhile, the nation was watching. Some people joke that if John Doe won, we'd be celebrating holiday season instead of Christmas next year. Christmas parties across the nation buzzes with debates about separation of church and state. After much debate, and most likely a few holiday cookies behind the scenes, the justices ruled in John Doe's favor. The Nativity scene had to go. It might have just been three wise men and a baby, but to the court, it represented something much bigger, a breach of the wall between church and state. But the real fireworks came in the opinions, both from the majority and the dissent. Just like the lawyers had their back and forth, the justices weren't shy about sparring over the issue. The majority opened strong. When the government allows religious symbols on public land, it sends a clear message. This religion is favored. That's not neutrality. That's endorsement. The dissent wasn't having it. Endorsement, they fired back. This is a Nativity scene, not a sermon. People have the good sense to know the difference between a religious display and government control. What's next? Are we going to ban Christmas lights because they symbolize hope? The majority didn't flinch. Symbols matter, they responded. In Nativity scene is more than just decoration. It's a representation of one specific religion, and when the government endorses one, it marginalizes others. That's the very danger the Constitution was designed to prevent. The dissent fired back. Marginalization, come on. The only thing marginalized here is tradition. Christmas is a national holiday. If we follow this logic, soon we won't be able to celebrate any holiday on public property. No more menoras, no more quonsa displays, nothing. But the majority was ready for that one. This isn't about banning celebrations, they wrote, probably with a smirk. This is about where those celebrations happen. You can put up your Nativity scene on your lawn at your church in the town square, but not on government property. It's about location, not limitation. And then one of the more sarcastic quips from the dissent. Sure. And while we're at it, let's just ban Santa and his reindeer too. Clearly, they are an unconstitutional endorsement of magical thinking. The majority, not missing a beat, responded. We aren't banning Santa. Last time we checked, he doesn't appear in the Bible. And so the battle raged on between the justices, but in the end, the majority had the final word. The Constitution requires neutrality in matters of religion. Public property is not a venue for endorsing any faith. The Nativity scene must go. John Doe won. Christmas wasn't canceled, but the Nativity scene was. And as for those three wise men, well, they found a new home right next to a giant inflatable Santa just across the street. And so the Nativity scene was taken down. The courthouse lawn once adorned with baby Jesus and his entourage was now bare. But for John Doe, it wasn't about ruining Christmas. It was about standing up for the Constitution. Sure, he'd earned the nickname Grinch, but to some, he was a hero. And what happened to John Doe after all of this? Well, something unexpected. As the holiday season rolled around the following year, John Doe filed himself feeling a little festive. Maybe it was the victory, or maybe it was the fact that he no longer had to stare at that Nativity scene every day. Either way, John Doe finally enjoyed Christmas. One evening, as he walked through his neighborhood, he spotted a giant inflatable Santa on a neighbor's lawn. This time, instead of annoyance, he smiled. Maybe Christmas isn't so bad after all, he thought. And for the first time in years, John Doe felt a sense of peace. The Grinch was gone, and all that was left was a man who stood up for what he believed in, and learned to enjoy the holidays in the process. In the end, John Doe's case wasn't about a Nativity scene. It was about the delicate balance between tradition and the Constitution. Nine justices ruled, and three wise men had to move. But as long as the question of church and state remains, that balance will always be tested, especially around the holidays, because in America, it's never about three wise men. Sometimes, it takes nine justices to figure it all out. On our next episode, meet Timothy, a would-be outlaw who thought he had found his calling in a string of successful armed robberies. But Timothy's biggest mistake wasn't his crew or his getaway plan. No, it was something much closer, his phone. What happens when the thing you rely on the most becomes the ultimate snitch? Find out how a trail of digital breadcrumbs led to a groundbreaking Supreme Court case that changed the way law enforcement tracks you. Carpenter v. United States, next time on Hidden Vertics. This has been Hidden Vertics, where even the smallest cases have a big impact. If you enjoyed this episode where nine justices took on baby Jesus, make sure to subscribe, share, and leave us a review. Stay tuned for our next episode as we dive into another Hidden Courtroom drama, because here at Hidden Vertics, there's always more to the story. I'm Jeff. See you next time. [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music]