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All she had to do was pick what she wanted. She talked to a design consultant for free and scheduled a professional measure in install. Look at you, Hall of Fame Sun. Oh, I just picked the winning team. They're the number one online retailer of custom window coverings in the world. Oh, Blinds.com is the goat. The goat. Go to Blinds.com for up to 50% off-site-wide, and a 100% satisfaction guarantee. Go right now for up to 50% off-site-wide at Blinds.com. Blinds.com. rules on restrictions may apply. What's up, San Diego? Welcome in to Gwen and Chris. Mine is Chris. I believe for one more day. Yeah? It'll be back tomorrow. No. He'll be back Wednesday. Wednesday. Yes. How are you doing this game? You're telling me, Tony, I've got a little bit of an update for everyone on what's happening tomorrow with the show. But go ahead for us. Okay. Well, welcome in. It should be a fun, short show. Man, this camera is quite tight on my face, man. I'm not a fan. Welcome. I'm not a fan of this two camera view, but there's only two of us. So I guess it has to be this way. Do you like the bunting? That's what it's called. See on the camera? If you're watching on YouTube, just search 97% off vibes, right? Yes. They're the bunting. Yes. I've got a bunch of messages on Friday. What do we call it? Banners. What do we call it? Banners. The bunting makes me think of playoffs. I tell you what, game 161 and this Mets brave double header made me feel like we're in playoff baseball. What? A finish. We'll get to that in a second because obviously it has a big factor in what the Padres will see and do come tomorrow. But how where should we start? Let's start with the weekend. The Padres were able to clinch on Friday, which we weren't able to talk about because the next day was Saturday. Correct. When I say clinch, I mean, clinch the top spot. They got a, what was it, a Braves, what was the, the guy, one of the two. It was a bunch of scenarios on how it had to happen, but the Braves got, or Padres got a win, which was one of the things. Yes. And I think the Mets had to lose and they did to the Brewers. Yeah. They both got that done that happened Friday night, Saturday night was Saturday and Sunday from a broadcast standpoint was very much like a spring training vibes for, for, you know what I felt. I felt that for Jesse and I, right? Like it was the first time that him and I have ever done a game where the, the, the fate was sealed in a good way for the Padres. And you know, there was, you know, we were there, you know, half of the starters were out of the lineup. So, you know, it was kind of a fun laid back to broadcast. And I don't know if we'll ever get that ever again, right? We got the last two games to kind of do that, even though the, the third game, we were kind of a little more locked and a rise was chasing a batting title. There were eight different scenarios in which the Padres could figure out who they were playing, two of which were pretty clean. Didn't happen. Yeah. Didn't happen. The next one, which is probably the Padres favor happened, which was, well, not the next one. I think this one was actually scenario five, according to Jeff Passen, which was a Mets win, a Braves loss and a Diamondback win. That brings us to where we are today. Those pesky Diamondbacks. The Diamondbacks are literally at Chase Field right now, bags packed. Yeah. They're hoping that the Mets can win another one because if the Mets win another one, Diamond If the Braves win game two on a spoiler alert, obviously, because I'm talking about game two, the Braves would be in, they'd come to San Diego, New York will go to Milwaukee. Now, I said before the show, I don't want the Mets coming here because the Mets are like the other team with this magical run in them. And it was proven today when Francisco Lindor had a two run home run in the top of the ninth inning to bait to win it for the Mets. Before we go down the Mets, but first we got to give some props to the Padres side of things. We should. Louisa rise three time back to back to back batting champ, three different teams. First time ever, you know, first time ever's are always pretty cool, but this one comes with a caveat. There was a time where no one would consider trading a batting champ true. So there's reason why it's the, you might, might one team might trade him, but in back to back seasons, it's probably never been done. I'm surprised he's been. I'm not, I guess I'm not surprised he's been traded so many times, but he, he fits the Padres perfectly. He is a Padre. And this year, this is pretty impressive to me just because of how bad his thumb seems like it hurts him because he even talks about it. He still, he still does this after I get the inside picture. Yeah. I mean, like, I don't even know how he's still doing what he's doing with his thumb the way it is, but credit to him. Tough guy right there. Tough guy. Um, according to, to my shield, doesn't have to like go to him to say, Hey, we're going to put you here. I'm giving you a day or I'm going to give you, he's willing to do whatever it is. So he's one of those guys that he doesn't have to check in. I mean, I'm sure he does cause this might shield, but he doesn't have to. Um, so shout out to, uh, shout out to, to Louisa rise third title. Not only did he get his third batting title, 200 hits again for him. That is a huge marker and he did it in best fashion. His last, that bat of that game, cause he would come out after doubling was hit number 200. It's just, it's a big number. And it doesn't seem like it happens very often. And I'll tell you what, this would be my last, this would not be my last thing, but last thing for now. Oh, last thing. Okay. We can go home. No, no, we can't go home. Um, last thing on the, what, Louisa for now, um, he's on a path where it really won't be recognized, what he's doing, unless he's able to do it for a sustained amount of time. You know, as good as, as much as we remember my father and as high regard, we keep them in. There was a point in his career where this wasn't, you know, him hitting 300 wasn't, you know, it wasn't looked at the way it's looked at now. It took him getting into like year seven, eight, nine of, of doing it before the recognition started to come. Remember my dad started in 83, uh, recognition didn't start coming his way, like for real for real until he got into the nineties in terms of the type of, it doesn't mean there wasn't articles written just like they were written about Louise, but in terms of his stature in the game as, as a whole, as a, in a long term, really didn't start coming until year seven, eight of doing it. And so I just pointing that out because this is Louisa's third year doing it, um, you know, he puts another three years, like, I think we'll be talking about, we won't be having the conversation of his value, this and that and the other, it'll be, man, this guy skill level is on a different level, but of course he's got to do that for a sustained amount of time. We'll only, uh, we'll only time will tell if that there's only one player in baseball this year that had more than 200 hits along with Luis rest. Do you know who it is? Uh, my, the young kid, Bobby Whit. That's correct. Yeah. 211 hits for Bobby, when he hit two, three, three 30, I mean, you, you probably doing some damage. They, they ain't walking you too much. Yeah. So shout out, but that just proves to you, sorry, that just proves to me at least how hard it is to, to collect 200 hits in a season. If only two guys did it and none of the guys in the games playing right now are going to get close to that. Yeah. Padres finish, uh, what? 93? Yes. 93 wins. 93 wins. I remember before the year I said, I said mid 90s, you guys, at least Chris told me I was crazy for saying it was, and it was, and you said, mid 90s, I definitely said that you're crazy. I, I, all weekend, I went through old, old tape trying to figure it out and I could not find it. If you said that, I, I definitely would go in to find it. I definitely will jump on the side and said, yeah, you're probably crazy. Well, I can't remember the exact number, but they cut a hundred mil. They cut it. We'll say 90s cut 90 mil. They traded one of their best players. They lost another one, lost three starters in, um, free agency and they had a 93 wins season. Perhaps one of the toughest divisions in, in baseball, at least the top half them in the A.L. East. They're no less than A.L. East. It's, uh, it's, it's quite a remarkable thing. We go back to the beginning of the season and where the Padres were and how we were talking about, I think Jesse brought this up on air yesterday. We definitely him and I were bullish that the Padres would be better than they were last year. And we thought that would lead to the playoffs. We both be lying. If you asked us now, if we said, oh, you guys thought they'd get the 93 wins? You're like, Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. We didn't. We didn't. But we thought they'd be a playoff team. We didn't think the National League West would be that good. No, the Giants were right there for a while. They fell off. They're all year. There was a time in, in, I would say, June-ish that you thought 89 wins would get you 88 wins. We'd get you into postseason play. That was pre all-star break. We all start wondering if this team was going to get to 85 wins. Didn't happen. It turns out what is, what's, what's the records we got here in this Mets. Oh, the records for the table of a C. I, it is, well, the Mets 89 Braves, 88 wins. So it's going to take you at least 89 wins to get in. Man, you guys are kind of spot on them. I'm kind of close. We're kind of close. Is that usually? I mean, 89 wins seems like a pretty round number. It took less than that last year, right? The Padres missed by two games, I believe. Yeah, they did. So 84 wins is what it took last year and it, you know, it just, it goes to show you that every year is in a bubble of itself. No 100 win teams this year for the first time in a long time, yet it seemed like it was more competitive. It was. To start to finish than it has been in quite some time. So I also feel like this rookie class has, uh, Joy look K-Z off the wall. And we're still watching the second game between the mess of players. So Larry in a second, the double, but I feel like the rookie class this year all the way across the board was pretty good. And so that makes competition a lot better. It was expected that the rookie class, I mean, Jackson Cheerio was, was, I think, the favorite for Boston holiday. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Those were the two names we kept hearing at the beginning. It wasn't even the three Jackson's. It was the two Jackson's. Right. Now Jackson Merrill, which we show here in San Diego, we definitely knew what he was capable of. But I don't think we knew he was capable of. Yeah. And not everything that he did. That'd be another cap. If somebody was, oh, yeah, I knew Jackson was going to hit 290 and have 24 bombs and 85 RBIs or 84, whatever it was. Don't even get me started a cap cap. Don't even get me started about this rookie of the year that's going to go to Paul schemes because he threw two innings against the Yankees on Saturday. He grabbed your mind around that. Oh, I've accepted it. It's going to happen. Oh, schemes is going to win. I don't know if it's going to happen. I, I, I, ooh, it went off the top, top, top of it. I don't know how it's going to end, but I definitely I'm partial to Jackson. I'm partial to everyday players that lace it up every day and they don't have to wait every 150 something games for him this year. He's playing a position he'd never played before. To me, it's a no brainer. Here's Jackson Merrill hit 292 for the season. That's tied for top 12 with Stephen Quand and Catale Marte. I mean, he is in the top 20. That's not rookie. No, that's a cross base cross baseball. Now listen, what Paul schemes did was was amazing. He just didn't do it as long. And that's my only beef with it. It was that, you know, Jackson was here from the time his team flew to Korea and was inserted in the lineup all but 12 games. I'm guessing it was 150 something. I just think that, that, that means something and he's able to do the hardest thing in the sport. He appeared in 156 when he appeared here. So even the days he didn't start, he got, he was in the game helping at some point and that's with him missing like one or two games because of that knee thing that he had late in the year, like really late in the year and he's fine now. What was it? How did he hurt his knee? I don't remember him hurting his knee. He did. It was, it was at home. Oh, it fouled the ball. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Does this not feel good? I'm sure. It does. It does. But a really great season now. All that being said, hate to tell you this, none of it matters anymore. And I, and I say that because, you know, Padres in 22 really backed into the postseason. They didn't go out and get on this amazing hot streak at the end. They pretty, pretty, pretty much like they had been all the second half. But soon as that season ended and everybody went to zero, it was a different team from the Mets series all the way through the Dodgers series. They battled like heck against the only other team that got hotter than them in the Phillies that year. It was a remarkable run that, and I bring that up to say that team didn't look anything like this team has throughout the course of the regular season. Absolutely. This team, this team is, is, I'll say it a more fun team than that team was. I mean, there's so many, there's so many things about this team that I love and it's, it's the camaraderie, it's the getting the, getting the job done when they needed to. It's just everything that they've done this year. What were they, the first team ever to do a triple play, a no hitter, come back from eight runs down and then there was one more thing and they're the first team in the history of the sport. Oh, two sets of back to back to back home runs, only team ever to do that. Yeah. No doubt, Padres have had a wonderful season and I think there's more to come. All right. I'm getting the break sign. So let's get to break. We'll be able to kind of break down some of what's going on in this Mets Atlanta game as the Braves just taking one nothing lead on a blue single by Ursula. And so, you know, I think as we saw in the last game, this probably won't end one nothing, especially with the pitchers that are both thrown for both side and either of them have their best guy in, Chris cell was scratched before right before this start with back spasms. He hadn't made his last two starts prior to this. My guess is it has something to do with those back spasms again. Mets won the first game. If they win the second game by them, I mean the Mets Diamondbacks are in they'll go Diamond So come here. If the Braves win game two, they lost game one. If they win game two, Mets go to Milwaukee Braves come here either way, someone's going to have to fly cross country tonight and play tomorrow. What app? What app? That's fine with me. Not our problem. Not our problem. We already got in. We took our we took care of business. All right. Let's let's jump away. Let's get to break. We'll be able to talk a little bit more about what happened in game one lot of fun baseball stuff that happen in game one will talk about it on the other side more Gwen and Chris. Oh, it's such a clutch off season pickup, Dave. I know, right? I was worried we'd be bringing back the same team. Oh, no, I meant those blackout motorized shades MVP of the room and a minimal salary cap hit. Lines.com made it crazy affordable to replace our old blinds hard to install. No, it was easy. Even you could do it. Nice. I installed these and then got some for my mom too, but you fly across the country to do the install. Oh, blinds.com can do it all. All she had to do is pick what she wanted. She talked to a design consultant for free and scheduled a professional measure and install. Look at you, Hall of Fame son. Oh, I just picked the winning team. They're the number one online retailer of custom window coverings in the world. 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I mean, because I was dealing. No, just. You were an athlete. No disrespect. No, no, I had nothing to do with that. I still drank alcohol, but it just went beer. Has nothing to do with that. Just the other stuff, the early beers didn't, my course late, Bud Light, my dad stuff, but my dad drank course, it was like, yeah, oh, did he drink the banquet? Coors? Silver Bullet. Silver Bullet. Okay. The likes. Yes. He'd have won every like five months. Right? I don't understand that, but sure. So, you know, that was like my first taste. And then I got to college and my roommates were drinking red ribbon and like, patch and like, oh, red stripes. Yeah. I would know, you're like, you know, stuff is that the taste, I was a big new castle guy. I was like 21. That was the other cheap beer. Natty ice. They used to have lights. Good. To Keystone when I was in Colorado. Keystone. Yeah. So that was the foundation I was working from. I didn't. I didn't enjoy them. Okay. I understand it. Now that you're coming along, it was like, yo, this tastes like tastes good. No one has to have people on the channel are saying, sorry, it's great. No one has to apologize. Everybody is allowed to enjoy their alcohol beverages. I just don't allow myself to enjoy it. It's okay. It's okay. I'm sure that the evil side of all of us, there's a piece of us with that would love to see you have a drink. Oh, our guy will. He tells me all the time, he tells me all the time, if I could just have one night with you, I'm not screaming. Oh, one night, I'm like, I don't think you want it. I think there are a lot of us that would enjoy the old Matt one time. I don't think you guys want. I don't think you guys want that. I'll take your word for it. We don't want it. Let's talk about game one of this series. By the way, my Aztecs took a tough one this weekend, man. The Chippewa's got them. Not good. Not good at all. That one hurt. And please stop calling for Sean Lewis's job. Yeah. Come on. We got relaxed on this. By the way, it's not like people are lining up to take the job right now. So let's, let's chill on like firing our, our head coach has been three games with three games for four games, maybe five. Is it five already? I think it's four. Four. Yeah. I think they're one and three. It's, it's bad that I don't know that means that they're not playing. No, it's not. I mean, it's not like there's not a baseball, exciting baseball season that's happening right now. If they were for it. Oh, I would know that they're for it. No. Touche. I can't argue. Remember when Chris said they need to come out, they need to throw a bunch of touchdowns in the first game and they need to score 70. It's, it's been, you know, I think it's important. We got a freshman quarterback, a new head coach and at times it's looked like, I think we imagined it. Look at 20 before I even turned the game on, they had 21 points. So I'm like, Oh, okay, we, this is the first half. Yeah. So I'm thinking, Oh, okay, this is, this is, we're back to good, good, good, good, we have to a good start. Yes. And then it stayed at 21 for a long time. It did. And then the chip was one, the chip was, how are you letting chip was beat the chips? Yeah. Come on. All right. Let's talk a little bit about this game one. Because there were so many things between the Mets and Braves that it was like a, it was like a, it was like a pamphlet of today's baseball, right? You had a starter and for the Braves. Who was it? Schwellenbach. Schwellenbach. Dealing. Yes. It really hadn't been touched. He gave up a couple hits, I believe it was the sixth or seventh, he got to the seventh, think he had a walk or gave up a hit, they go getting mind you, the Mets hadn't scored any runs to this point. They go getting, they bring in him and as he proceeds to give up the ghost, right? So they tie the game, eventually some big bomb, puts them up three, I believe. Right? Yes. Put them up three, six, three, Schwellenbach went seven. He went seven, so when the eighth that happened, yeah, so they stuck with him pretty long. So that one, that's not necessarily by the book. They go get him after the walk to give the bullpen, gives it up Mets. They go with new school baseball, they bring their closer in right now. Yeah. He proceeds to give it up. Yeah. All of it. Yeah. And so yeah. Braves have a lead going into the ninth. Yeah. Now, mind you, the Braves had to go to Iglesias to finish the eighth. Yeah. He comes back out for the ninth. He gives it up Francisco Lindor who had a big hit earlier in the game to get him to within one ice cold is the exact way to describe that to run shot. They go on to when Diaz, by the way, came out again and finished the ninth little bit of not, not too much, too much excitement there in that ninth. So they're in, but it was earlier in that game in the beginning for the Mets, they had a chance to get the runner over. They didn't. Iglesias gets a knock. So they were so, I say that to all of them say that none of it is bullet proof, right? The analytics aren't bullet proof coaching with your eyes or heart or whatever you want to say isn't bullet proof. You have to manage. You have to make decisions. This goes for managers and players in the moment. And that's why sometimes, you know, the analytic stuff isn't going to, going to go your way because you got to kind of be looking at what's happening plus what you get on the paper. It's got to be a boat and then you got to actually make the decision for yourself. I just thought that was interesting, the way his 94 pitches when he was taken out. So yeah, look at the paper. The paper's probably screaming at you to get out of the game in terms of, in terms of swelling, Bach, yeah, swelling, Bach, swelling, Bach, I like saying that. I think that was the right move. You go get a 94 pitches, he's got you to, through seven, he's, you're into the eighth, right? So, yeah, I think yes, I think that's the way you end up going in that situation. I was just watching like just, it also, I mean, in the playoffs, that's exactly how it's going to be managed on the Mets side, right? They went and got there. That's how we see it. You go get your closer for the biggest part of the game. And it almost backfired. I mean, thankfully, Iceman himself, Francis Cole and Dore came through. But otherwise, it would have been a disastrous move and to do it on the road to by the way, he had just thrown 26 pitches the day before because he hadn't pitched in forever. Yeah. So, they got him some work, 26 pitches. I bet you've not exactly what they were hoping for when they've got him in there, get some work, probably a little more, but he was still ready to go the next day. He's not been very, we're still talking, he has, yeah, he's been inconsistent. Yeah, he has been very inconsistent for how much money he's being paid. And you always got to throw that part in there, huh? Well, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I mean, that that's what we measure people by. That's what we measure people by these days. But lastly, a little bit of I told you so, Farhan's I-80 is no longer president of baseball operations. Yeah. Remember that story we went over maybe a couple of weeks ago, right after Chapman signed the big deal. It was right after Matt Chapman did that. We talked about it and I said, this isn't, this isn't a good thing for Farhan. Because you mean when someone else is negotiating good contracts for your own team? Yeah. That's, that's, that is never a good thing. Isn't that your job? But one thing that you're supposed to do, yeah, the big thing, like you got to, if you're going to free agency comes, you sign guys, you bring, keep, keep guys, instead, bus proposal out of left field comes in and gets this done. Didn't even know bus proposal was involved like that. I didn't either. And guess what? Now he has Farhan's job, which honestly talk about ice cold. That is ice cold. That is. Farhan, Farhan had his time. He definitely had more than enough time to turn that around. I am by no means saying the Giants weren't in their right mind by making this move. We, we've gone over at least three off seasons that didn't go their way since he's been there. The first one I think we were willing to give a pass on, but you struck out on my man for the twins. Correa. Mm hmm. Yes. You swung and missed it. And Judge or Aaron didn't get there. John Haman said, "Arson Judge is a giant." You really lucked in the Chapman and Snell because they ended up not getting the deals that they were supposed to. So it fit, you know, those deals to me that they sign are, I think, a microcosm of what Farhan's problem was. It just seemed like he was too reluctant to take any risk at all. He only wanted to do the things that he was felt the value was perfectly matched up. Yeah, he was protecting his job instead of building it down. Which is why they had run it the way they had for so long, right? Yeah. Which, like the ultimate platoon team and, like, that was theirs, that was the value baseball right there. It didn't work out. Cost him his job. So, Buster Posey is now on the clock. I'm very interested to see how he does. I feel like he's going to be good at it because he's good at everything he does in the baseball world. But he's extremely smart. He knows baseball. He clearly understands players because he got Chapman to sign that extension. I think he's going to do a great job. And, you know, this is a move, kind of an old move, right? A former player being just something we used to see in, like, the '90s and early 2000s. You kind of moved away from that and maybe, I don't know, this is a... Maybe they saw the Rangers last year with Chris Young being the GM baseball operations guy. Not saying that all baseball players would get it right. God knows that a lot of us wouldn't do that job well. But these two certainly are off Chris one of the World Series last year. Buster Posey getting an opportunity now. Maybe we're starting to see things kind of changing. All right. Break away. One of my favorite people of all time will be joining us next. We'll highlight this postseason. His team, his former team, already has a buy. Well, Jimmy Rollins will talk to us a little bit. You're going to see plenty of him on TBS coming up here as a playoff start. He'll join us next on Gwen and Chris. 240 on the clock, Tony Gwen Jr., Matt Scrabie, Gwen and Chris. Jimmy Rollins joins us here shortly. I see... I see the chat. I see you guys making a point that it was two outs when they brought in D.S. There's two on one out. Two on one out. Don't make a difference with me. Five outs after 26 pitches the night before. It's a gamble. It's a huge gamble. Nonetheless, point taken. Joining us here on Gwen and Chris, one of my favorite individuals ever, Jimmy Rollins. Former shortstop of the Phillies joins us. He'll see a lot of him coming up here on TBS as the playoffs. Well, Jimmy, J-roll, how are you, Mother Anne? I am. I am well. I'm excited about what's happening in baseball. Game one was probably the best game of the year with everything on the line, seeing my guy land door. Once again, prove why he should probably be the NL MVP. I know everybody's up on show hate. But, man, you come up with value, but I'm also excited for this AO matchup which we'll be covering on TBS. There's a lot going on. Honestly, I'll just throw this out there because I sent it to our group chat. I think the wild court series should be played the way this series is right here. Should be a double header on the first day, if there's a sweep, the team earns their day off. If not, then you get that next day and that way the strategy and how do you manage games because now that the NL is no longer with the DH, I mean, with the, I mean, now that the game is no longer with the pitcher hitting this all DH, I think that asked some strategy to come up one exciting day potentially of baseball around the league. You, you, you. And with that said, hello, my friend. You won ultimate chaos. Well, I got, I got, I got, I got to ask you a little bit, you threw it out there. Educate us on, on the Lindor, Otani MVP conversation because this seems like a foregone conclusion that everybody is saying Otani, Otani, Otani, but they're, they're, they're, you're making a case for Lindor. So, Otani, what he did 50, 50, 50, you know, 50 on runs, 50 stolen bases, he only affects one side of the baseball and I'm, and you could call it bias the same way I don't feel a pitcher should win MVP. I don't care what they do, they should be so young that your MVP for that, a position player affects the ball every day on both sides of the ball and Otani, he's only affecting on the offensive side and, you know, Canada DH win MVP, there's arguments because I don't think it's happened and we've had some great DHS and Otani seems to be an exception. You know, they've already made a rule change form that we can pitch and hit everything else you can. So I get it and I get the hype run show and I love show, hey, I was there, I got his rookie card, I know that thing is up in value so I appreciate you, show, hey, but was, as we come up value to a team, the Mets are not there in this position today and didn't clench today without Lindor and he proved it in my opinion with that big two run homerun and the, and the top of the knife without that, they're not there, they're playing for their lives right now in game two, but instead they're on. Now he's been through injuries and right now he's battling through injuries and we're talking about value, we're an outstanding player, show, hey, Otani is the most outstanding player in the game this year. What he's done is outstanding, but value to, to, to the success of your team, there's no way the Mets are there without Lindor and that's why it's got the most valuable player and that's where I give him the value award. Consider everyone listening, educate it. Let's talk a little bit about this double header. There's a lot of conversations about it being fair, unfair, I know I come from the standpoint of, you know, you take care of business, you're not in this situation now, weather is what caused this game to be pushed to this point. Do you see some, do you see some unfairness involved in this, this double header here today? No, not at all, not at all, I personally, I love it just for the excitement. It's going back to when we had the one game playing and baseball was a buzz. You had one day of just chaos, that was like our Super Bowl. You sat there and somebody was going home and somebody was going on and today you kind of get that feel again and we can't control the weather. They've looked at the schedule and you've met through, you've got the schedule and you look at common days off and you try to figure it out, figure it out, but it just so happened to be this is a very unusual situation and for the game itself, I love it. I mean, the excitement of today and it isn't about fair, unfair and I'm with you, if you handle your business over 162, you avoid being in the situation, but if you are in the situation, you ask those guys on the field, say I don't care, it's what do we need to do to get in and that's all you care about. Talking to Jimmy Rollins here, he is an analyst for TBS, heading into the playoffs and you just talked about how you don't think a pitcher can win an MVP, so I'm going to go towards rookie of the year because I personally think that Paul Skeeds is going to win just because of how things have been going as of late with the media coverage, but who do you think should win nationally rookie of the year, Jackson Merrill or Paul Skeeds? I think Jackson should win. I understand that Paul Skeeds, and this is separate from a value to a team because what Paul Skeeds did was absolutely outstanding, I think he had a sub-two-year array, 11-six record or something like that and that's outstanding and that should be separate from the team, 100 percent, but it's hard in this situation to take a team that is as bad as the pirates and a team that has been as successful as the Padres and the role that Jackson has been in that team, big hits with two outs, big rounds, lands, plays a good defense and is a key component to their success and like both of them, one was in college last year and he's in a big league, the other was in a ball and he finds himself in a playoffs, so it's tough and I do agree with the hype around Paul Skeeds starting the all-star game. All the success that he had is hard to not say he isn't the rookie of the year, but by that same token, I think it's the same with Jackson Merrill and maybe it's a co-worker of the year situation, I don't think that any of them deserve to lose it and they both deserve to win it and I'll tell you one thing, I'm glad I don't have a vote. No doubt, Jimmy Rollins joins his TBS analyst, one of the best I've ever had to privilege of playing against and playing with, Jimmy, you had a lot of playoff, ABs experience. Just take us through the difference, I know in my three at bats of experience on the playoff stage, the one thing that stood out to me was the heightened focus all the way around. Talk about, you know, what it's like stepping in the box in the playoffs versus during a regular season. There is a different focus, I mean, even from the umpires, and I'll start from the back of it, the umpires actually call a true strike zone, they start carrying less about a quest tech and it's like, this is a strike, this is a ball and it becomes more definitive because you're not trying to get through 162, if it's a four hour game, then so be it and I think the umpires appreciate that. Each bat means more, each bat means more, this bat can win the game and it's the same during the season, albeit, but winning the game in a playoff means you're one game closer to the next level, one game closer to raising that trophy and have a parade down your perspective of Broad Street and that's where the heightened focus comes in, what needs to get done, you know, what pitches can I do damage with, you start paying more attention to that, what other pitchers tendencies, you start paying more attention to that, runs in scoring position, this is what this guy likes to do, runs in scoring position, this is what I typically do, do why change that because there are no secrets, I can't surprise him unless I do something different, but as a hitter you have to remember the pitchers done all of a sudden invent pitches, all of a sudden throw harder, everything remains the same, just more emphasis on the result of the bat and that's where I think, you know, you can see people float under pressure or step up and meet the challenge. Talking to Jimmy Rollins here and yes, Tony was right, he does have a lot of postseason experience, he's played in 50 postseason games, so that's a lot and I'm just wondering what your thoughts are on the Padres heading into the playoffs as they stand right now, they have been incredible since the all-star break, they're continuing to win, what do you think their chances are here in the playoffs? The Padres are a scary team, I think everybody in the NFL has to have their eyes on the Padres just because the way they've played with their revamped bullpen, what Luis Arias is able to do at the top of that lineup, they're no longer a one trick pony, just licking in the drive the ball out the yard, they have an all-around game, so I really, really, really like the Padres as a team to get to the NLCS, they've proven that they can play with the Dodgers, they've done it before they've knocked him out and if I'm anybody in the NFL, I'm telling myself we have to have a lead before the sixth inning, because it goes back to what Cleveland did way back in 2016, they were short game up, they have that type of bullpen. Jimmy, I noticed you said the NLCS and on the other side of the bracket is some alum for you in the Philadelphia Phillies, they've played a pretty good baseball for most of the year, they've kind of slowed down here on the back half, now that could be because they had such a comfortable lead, they certainly have had their nicks and bruises, is there any concern about your flying fields? As of September, no, August, I was definitely scared, it's like what's going on guys and a lot of it does come from when you have a nice comfortable lead, you're looking ahead, you can't help but look at it because you know what's out there, they've been to the World Series and loss, they've been to the NLCS and loss and you kind of jumping out the bit, just wanting the season to be over, so we can go ahead and get to the playoffs and give ourselves a chance to win the World Series again, but you know, they had some wake-up calls, they had some injuries, guys had some great first half and kind of came back to Earth I guess the second half, Alvarado I think has a four year array which isn't typical for him, Bryce battling through things, but Castellanos completely turned it around his first half the second half, Schwabers, Ben Schwabers all year long, so they have all the pieces, Nola, he's a big game pitcher, Wheeler, he's up there for Cy Young, Ranger that got him back, so if he's healthy and pitches healthy like mentally and physically, he'll be great, but he's also a big game pitcher and he doesn't you know, shy up in the moment, it's almost like he goes the opposite way, so they have their pieces, they have the experience, it's about everything coming together at the right time because we know that the best team doesn't always win, a good team will win and a team that's hot will be anybody in the world. I'm talking to Jimmy Rollins here on 97 through the fan and MLB network put out a list of the top five people that have the most pressure heading into the playoffs and Bryce Harper was on that list and so I thought it was kind of strange that he would be on that list, but what do you think it would mean for Bryce Harper to go out and win a world series, do you think it would alleviate pressure or what are your thoughts on him? Well, I mean there's pressure to winning period, let's just start there and it doesn't matter what uniform, which name is on the back or the front, there's pressure to win it, that's what we played a game for, it's a game that we grew up in, we put that pressure on ourselves since the time we were four or five years old, send a three-two count and you're trying to throw a strike or you're trying to get that hit, that pressure's been there, so that's something that we live with, but outside of that, pressure is what you make it, somebody has to win, somebody has to lose and you're always saying I'm the one that's going to win and if you say you're going to win, you don't feel the pressure because you'll do whatever it takes to win and also baseball is not a individual game, Bryce can't hit every time, he can't pitch every time, he can't be there to make every single play, he has this moment and as long as he's doing his job and inspiring his teammates to be better, there's nothing more that he can do, the results you live with, obviously he wants to win, he wants a championship, big money and a big market and he came there to win a championship, I'm sure he's feeling, you know, a way about the Nationals winning, when he left, but with all that being said, if Bryce shows up and everybody does their part because the big guys, you know, they're going to have their moments, it's going to be, I hate to say the role players, there's no such thing, it's going to be the non-superstars that are going to be the ones that contribute the most because if you, they're doing their job, they're going to have to see the big guys in line up, they're going to have to see Schwabber, Turner and Bryce, but if the quote unquote role players aren't, then we can work around the big guys. Yeah, that's when it gets thick, when the guys who, the non-stars are doing their job, that's when these teams are at their best, Jimmy, as always, man, appreciate you coming on, we look forward to listening to and laughing because you guys got a good group on TBS. We're looking forward to it all, man, thanks for your time. Well, thanks for having me, guys. Jimmy Rollins there, MLB analyst, former Phil, possible Hall of Famer, I mean, that's how good Jimmy, Jimmy Rollins was. Appreciate his time. Get a hot team to come in. He did, didn't he? To a double-header player. Look at this D.H. about a here. What? We want everyday guys. I ain't mad at that at all. All right, let's get to break three o'clock hour on the other side, we're going to daily gambit. I don't want to touch on that, but I want to talk about the rotation, too. Get your thoughts on how you think it's going to be in a pocket. Scrave once to talk rotation, so we're talking rotation. That's right. That's what it is. 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