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Bava Batra daf 97

Bava Batra daf 97 by Rabbi Joey Soffer
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walk your toe today is September 30th what's your name? I am Victor I am Victor I am Victor Victor, how are you? Victor, how are you? I can't see you I can't see me I see you I don't see you either but my camera is on It's you You don't have the camera on My camera is on I can't see you Why can't I? Now I shut it off Now I turned it on I see my camera You don't have the camera on My camera is on I can't even see it Something on your side, Victor I almost thought again You're on mute, Victor I was thought again You're on mute, okay, you're left All right, let's go Max is connecting, here he is Hey Max Max, can you see me? Go ahead Yes, see you You see me, okay, fine, so let's go Because Victor was here before he said he couldn't see me I don't know I hear he's coming back He's at the end, he's here Yeah, okay, fine Yeah, Victor Yeah, Victor, you're back? How are you feeling, you're home? We need one part of that I think it's good Yeah Victor, thank you, thank you Victor, come home I have one more thing to do I'll be back to make this go Bye, let's go I'll shut it off, okay, let's go Today's Dafs-Sadi-Dalete, September 30 One Dafs-Sadi-Dalete We stopped, I think at the bottom Oh no, sorry, today's sad, that's sad yesterday was Saudi Vav. So today is Saudi Zion. We stopped the bottom line of Saudi Zion. Yeah, last line. So we had this conversation yesterday about it, but I was still trying to figure out the binakhaa, right? For the binakhaa, gefen versus shakal, when I added the water to my, to my dregs, for my wine, and we had a conversation and said, oh, if I put some and I got back more, or I got the same amount, that's what we were. Right, so much like this, time out. It was the way you set up the mahogre yesterday was, I put in three and I got back three and a half. That was the mahogre. 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Maybe it's the one that's bubbling, the one that's in the store. Yeah, it's like almost like champagne. Le Maute corsese says that that is pluper de viohanan, vire bio shore ben levi. Look at that, it's bamboo, he says, where that honker is. Le Maute maite, it's like 12 lines before the wide lines. Mein hain, Le Maute maite main hain, mein hain epistle, which one did you try to exclude? But it must be something in this list that I have doesn't like. Ile melamote yai encosces ata, to tell me about this one, it's in the store. When you are in Omeir, I love kiddushayom, hab ore pree agefen mivarechine, v'amai. Meaning what is he saying? Don't make kiddush. Now, the hab amina is, it must be that it's bure pree agefen. You tell me not to make kiddushayom, it's still bure agefen. Well, that is not necessarily true. Hab ore pree agefen mivarechine, habai, hab plutat, it'll be a shoben livi, it'll be an anavir, it'll be a shoben livi. We learned that yesterday, it's a mahloket. If you say shakol, all you say, it's also a rafkiznaf, I remember, right? And it'll be a hanan, it'll be a shoben livi, yes. We brought their explanation from rafkiznaf, it's a rafkiznaf, that was the one that says, that it's nothing, right? But it wasn't they. Yes, it'll be a hanan, hab rahu, but I feel the naan kiddushayapir, dami. The hab amina, de la gebir, te luma haa, shiv la yai, nua deen, gabir kiddush. The loshna kiddushayom, bure agefen, according to the bure agefen. E la lignan mihus, kadam lela kaman, mishum jikri vu, hakri vu, nah lef, lif, lif, ha tik haa. We're going to get there now, that's the passeut they use, that, that one, bure aseil, and so if I think it's yimiyyah, we should, yeah, one of the niviyim, we're giving rebuk to amisayil, that is mahloket, that they were giving, they were bringing mah kodbanot, from animals that had blemishes and big things, they were giving like second quality, right? You say, shim wants this from you, right? You bring something that's valid, something that's beautiful. - Anyway, so-- - IR, IR, IR, IR, IR, IR is exactly. - All right, so he says, (speaking in foreign language) we saw the (speaking in foreign language) or wine, and it's (speaking in foreign language) and therefore you can make (speaking in foreign language) and the (speaking in foreign language) says it's vinegar, 'cause he follows the smell. And therefore, right, (speaking in foreign language) it's not (speaking in foreign language) of course I can't make (speaking in foreign language) so (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) if he's trying to be (speaking in foreign language) likely to be (speaking in foreign language) should have been a little bit clearer. Now tell me, don't make (speaking in foreign language) or something that doesn't go on to his behalf. If he also can be (speaking in foreign language) say this wine, the (speaking in foreign language) is (speaking in foreign language) and I'll know, I can make (speaking in foreign language) or say it's (speaking in foreign language) and I know, I can't use the (speaking in foreign language) right? So, okay, so that's not what he was trying to knock out with his statement. Fine. (speaking in foreign language) Maybe he wants to exclude water down wine, right? So, that says that (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) It can't be that (speaking in foreign language) to tell you not to use wine, (speaking in foreign language) right? For (speaking in foreign language) because you're supposed to put water into the (speaking in foreign language) So, that's part of that's upgrading the water, the wine. Yeah, Aliyah, you raised it up, you made it even better. - Can't drink it. - So, (speaking in foreign language) Exactly, it's too strong, you can't drink it, exactly. So, that can't be what he's saying not to use the (speaking in foreign language) Okay? I understand that you can't put it on the (speaking in foreign language) It means back, it's undiluted wine, you know, right? But you for drinking better, so for sure, the (speaking in foreign language) undiluted wine, it goes in his back, yeah. Undiluted, it goes in his back, so if you don't, if you water down the wine, it's possible for the miss back, you can't do that, when miss back, it's pure wine. - So, we cannot drink that, the wine that goes in. - No, no, okay, okay. (speaking in foreign language) Maybe you'll tell me the reason, I'll tell you what he's talking about in the (speaking in foreign language) is don't make you douche on wine that was left uncovered, right? That was one of the ones in the list. That's (speaking in foreign language) that's for the snakes, right, there's a danger. I don't have to tell you that, (speaking in foreign language) Of course, you're not gonna drink it, right? Okay, (speaking in foreign language) No, rather you tell me what, maybe it's to exclude the wine that was made for the drugs. When I said, okay, (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) If I put three parts water, and now I have four parts left, so that's regular wine, that can't be what he's talking about. (speaking in foreign language) If it's three, I put, and I got three and a half, (speaking in foreign language) And again, he shouldn't even (speaking in foreign language) Don't give me this convoluted statement to figure out what you're talking about. (speaking in foreign language) No, answer, (speaking in foreign language) Don't make wine on something that smells bad. Don't make kiddush, don't make kiddush on wine that smells bad. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) It's (speaking in foreign language) And it's (speaking in foreign language) But if it smells bad, don't use the kiddush. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) That's the one that we talked about yesterday, that's the one that we talked about. (speaking in foreign language) It smells like vinegar, it tastes like wine, okay? The (speaking in foreign language) Or another possible answer. He says (speaking in foreign language) Go back, no, no, he's also talking about the uncovered wine. Now what, to tell you, (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) The Marah says in (speaking in foreign language) I know, but what is it? (speaking in foreign language) Where is it? I think it's both, that you can actually remove it, and also have it as enough for sure. You can remove the poison, the edus from the wine, by running it through a sifter, the venom of the snake congeals. Yeah, it's a sukkah, also. (speaking in foreign language) And you, if you pass it through, (speaking in foreign language) You can get it out. So you say, no, I would have, but maybe they wouldn't go date, maybe they wouldn't. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) Okay, so. (speaking in foreign language) Okay, no. The question is, if you sifted it, would you give it to a family man? No, but remember that, you're assuming it. I'll throw it out. You're assuming that there's definitely poison in there. I just left it uncovered. We said that. No, I left it uncovered. I don't know if it's there or not. And then I ran it through the sifter. Okay. Right? Yeah, if I saw it, maybe a little bit crazy, but I didn't see anything. I don't know. It's like when the city tells you to boil your water before you drink it. Right. And you're not gonna drink it? Right, right. It says, (speaking in foreign language) I'm not gonna drink it. (laughing) Rob is saying, listen, even if you sifted it afterwards, you strained it, actually, better word. You strained it, right? So still don't use after kiddush. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) Right? That's the pasuk, that way's the front, was from Malafisa. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) You're bringing me a blind animal. And Rob, you think that's not bad? (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) Go offer that in your own house. Would you eat that animal? Will you eat that thing? Sick. There you go. There you go. That's what he's saying. You wanna bring it to me? Are you gonna eat on your backyard? Right, right. Okay. (speaking in foreign language) Exactly, that's the point. They're giving them rebuke, right? (speaking in foreign language) Right, okay. So that's the idea. And Rob is saying it's kiddush. Be respectful for the kiddush. Don't bring me this wine. It's a-- (speaking in foreign language) That's right, same thing. Same thing. Same thing. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) White wine. Can I use white wine for kiddush? That's the question over here. (speaking in foreign language) Okay, Pasook. Pasook says, don't see wine. Don't look at wine. That's red. (speaking in foreign language) Yeah. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) You want it to be red. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) It's still acceptable. So we know that that's what he said. So look at the rasabam on the bottom. He says, (speaking in foreign language) to drink it. It's like four lines of the white lines. (speaking in foreign language) It makes you, the right makes you too drunk. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) Right? You should use red wine. He says, (speaking in foreign language) Doesn't mean it's Pasook, right? 'Cause we saw before, right? Well, actually Boric, we said was, was in a list of things not to use, right? (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) Right. White wine, it says, we said was Pasook. We said the Boric, which she says, (speaking in foreign language) Okay, four. Uh-huh. (speaking in foreign language) We gotta see what that's talking about over there. (speaking in foreign language) Okay, so he says, (speaking in foreign language) So maybe the white one that's not ras is okay. 'Cause over here, right? Look at the rasabam on the second white line. (speaking in foreign language) He says, (speaking in foreign language) The question is not about kiddush. The question is about pouring on his bed. (speaking in foreign language) Someone is saying, (speaking in foreign language) Oh, definitely not. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) This is white. (speaking in foreign language) Yeah, the white one. You have to say that this person, this who is in (speaking in foreign language) that is (speaking in foreign language) Right? Then he didn't hear the Borica. Fine. 'Cause the Borica before said the Borica is Pasook. Right? So, but he's saying, yes, yes, yes it was. Yes it was. (speaking in foreign language) No, no, it was in the good one. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) You're right. You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. You're right. It's cashier. You're right. Even white one is cashier for the Miss Beeth. Fine. And therefore, so the question over here was, meaning (speaking in foreign language) That's what he's saying. Yeah. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) The question is, can you bring on Miss Beeth? At least so before, (speaking in foreign language) No, but (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) Right, red makes more alcohol content than white. (speaking in foreign language) Right, right, right, yes, right. (speaking in foreign language) And therefore, you want the one that can cause more to make you more drunk, has more alcohol content. And therefore, it's more time, right. You can use the red, use, right, red goes first. Red goes first. But that's all from the Sahim, for white. (speaking in foreign language) That's what he's saying. That's why it's better for the Miss Beeth. The Miss Beeth supposed to have more alcohol content. Right. Right, right, right, right, good. Okay, and therefore, the bottom line, (speaking in foreign language) Red is preferable, if you have white white. All the weddings, we use white wine cause we don't want to spill it on the girl's dress, yeah. It's wearing a white dress. All the weddings is white wine, usually. We say (speaking in foreign language) Okay, (speaking in foreign language) Okay, so, if you remember the end of the Mishnah said, and they're talking about that you have to take, you know, lost factors and things like that and purchases about the grapes and how much, how much what? Yeah, so it said at the end of the Mishnah, (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) You got, we said, now she said over here, (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) Which is what we're up to right now. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) What does (speaking in foreign language) mean that I have to accept? Doesn't mean broken jugs, it means (speaking in foreign language) They're nice, they're good, (speaking in foreign language) They've been sealed, they had a crack, but they were sealed. So I don't have to take ones that are leaking, but I have to take. (speaking in foreign language) Yeah, right, you sealed the jug, you sealed the jug, it holds the liquid, you have to take 10 of those per hundred, that's what he's saying. Okay, (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language)
Bava Batra daf 97 by Rabbi Joey Soffer