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I'm Not Gon Hold You #INGHY 9.30.24 | Week 4 Recap + Caleb's Progress + MLB Wild Card Preview
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Yeah, I mean it's solid, man, you know, our boys continuing to improve despite the whole mind being trash, you know, still some stuff I didn't like, but we got the dub, so, you know, my 12th win prediction is still on track, you know, like picking up a little bit, but I got a very stretch of very winnable games, so I'm feeling good right now. Same bro, Victory Mondays, if they feel much better after W than they do an L, you can turn on Chicago sports radio, you can go on a box a day, you don't have to see no slander for, you know, six more days, so I'm cool, man, let's get it, yeah, you see me, you see me getting more vibes, I'm surprised you don't have the Puerto Rican flag in the background. No, no, no, I got the hat, you know what, I was going to bring it out, maybe I'll do it for the, you know, for the record, I don't want me to get into our baseball talk. I think it's somewhere, it's somewhere might be in the stores, my Puerto Rican ass girlfriend had it on the balcony, and she had it on the balcony for the whole summer, so I'm like, oh, you know, they're going to brick our crib, they don't want us to be here. Oh, yeah, I know when you stay here, they don't. Exactly, exactly. You know what I'm saying, I'm like, I'm doing that. Yeah, exactly, he said, wearing it like a cape, yeah, man, as you see, product placement, get you one of these bubbles, Jen, that work mode, by the way, do you see the shop.com, get you one of them? Said, been wondering how I was feeling about the socks, you ain't got to wear how I feel about it. I left them niggas 13 months ago, ask these two niggas, I didn't feel about the socks. We'll get into that later on, as I try to be not reminded by Jay rhymes off, then I forgot to say with me, the day of the other Jay rhymes off thing, I have not let go of, but I will be boycotting, I have boycott it. But anyway, we're getting to that. We've got a guest, we're going to bring out just a minute, but I think we'll be remiss if we didn't start the show with the terrible news that came in this morning, the Ken Bay Mutombo NBA legend, basketball legend, passed away to the age 58 from brain cancer. I didn't even know he had that. For me, man, he is one of the guys that won the first couple NBA players, I remember watching growing up, you know, being a big fan of 90s hoops and growing up in that era. My first ever memory of the Ken Bay Mutombo was actually kind of funny because they were playing the Bulls in the 1997 playoffs. Now, I remember he was talking about, you know, he never dunked on him, that Mike never dunked on him. And I remember that was a whole little back and forth thing, they had all season, even had does a funny clip that happened at the All-Star game that he saw, I never dunked on you. Now, Mike said some Mike things in there, that is hilarious. Said, we'll take away your green car, but that's just typical of Michael Jordan. But, you know, they got him in the playoffs, dunked on him and hit him with the finger. All I can hear is Johnny Red Kerr in my head, Michael Shanks the finger, but you always knew just how creative a defensive player that he was, of course, that historic upset that he had when he was with the Nuggets and they defeated the Seattle Supersonics. When he was holding the basketball up in the air, we also remember him being with the NBA 76ers and being that last piece to help get the Sixers to the finals in 2001 and we can't forget about all of the things he's done outside of basketball. He was the NBA's first ever global ambassador and it's just, it's just real sad to see him go this early. It was something that kind of came out of nowhere. I didn't know he was dealing with that, but much, much of love and respect to all his family members and all his friends and entire NBA community, man, Mountain with Simba, were all you remember. You guys got him a tumble, but I'm going to go to bang, you know, bang is, is, is, uh, 90 days, man. What's some of your, my tumble memories? Man, my first, my tumble memory or the, in the biggest, um, is what happened in Seattle for those who know me, they know that I was a huge Seattle Supersonics fan. I am a Gary Payton stand. I am a Sean Kip stand and when they had the number one seed in 1993, 1994, you cannot tell me that this was the team of the nineties and they were going to win the title that year and they were up to old on the Denver Nuggets. And when they got the game five, I remember watching the game, um, on NBC and after the game was over, you had the kid made my tumble holding the ball up and everything and they maybe officially became the first team to defeat a, um, first AC to defeat a number one seed. Um, so yeah, that was the moment that put the Denver Nuggets back on the mat, uh, because they was one of, they were one of those teams in the eighties where they never got over the hump, but with Kiki van de Way, Adrian, Dantley and others, they always was around. I mean, I think they even made it to a Western Conference Finals against the Lakers one year. But the kid made my tumble, um, even though I remember seeing him at Georgetown, um, really when you look at him and Alonzo morning, they were the last of, or the, I won't say the last because Roy Hibbert, but one of the last, or two of the last big men that came out of Georgetown, right? Um, but then you also got to think about the impact that he had, um, on the court, think it's four defensive player of the years. Um, and then there's a global webmaster that Africa and that they have NBA Africa out there. Um, so, I mean, the only thing that I else, the only thing else that I could say is since we're renaming trophies out the people that came back, yeah, yeah, that, that should, that should have been the case already. Um, but now that we, we're at, we're at, that needs to be the most humble award. I definitely agree that one of my favorite NBA, you know, you know, uh, I don't say NBA films, because it's not NBA films, but they backstage that they ain't got no name for it. Uh, I remember they did a special on the two thousand one sixes and I'm going, he got to Philadelphia. And I think they were getting ready for games seven against the Raptors, which finally a game still piss me off, whatever. Anyway, I was a, I was a massive, I'm still massive Miss Carter, man. So I still see a shot in missing that three in the corner in my head. But, um, he was like, the answers in the building. Hey, I was like, the answer, who the hell is the answer? That, that, that part was always hilarious to me, man. But, um, uh, Dr, any thought, no, y'all didn't Atlanta any, any thoughts quickly. And then we're going to introduce our guests. Uh, yeah, man. Um, outside of basketball, Jacobi and Missimba was a truly a great man. You know, he was an ambassador, like, not only a global ambassador, but he did a lot of things here in Atlanta for the community. And so he was somebody that was really respected around the city. You'll actually see him all the time because he traveled so much, uh, and Harshfield Jackson ducking through the, uh, through the door because he was so damn big, but, uh, he was always a cool dude. Um, and you know, it's unfortunate, you know, for him to lose his life at 58, you know, passing on passing away at 58. You know, we've seen a lot of people, uh, this year, and we've just seen them more and more passing away, um, at very young ages. So it's unfortunate, you know, everybody, you know, like we say all the time, you know, go to the doctor, get checked out, make sure everything's good with you. Um, and this is a great loss for the basketball community. So, and I went bang, I think you definitely got a, uh, renamed the Defense to play a year award to that they came back, made some more award. And, um, I think the memory for me is always going to be him on the floor with the basketball after they VC out of, right. That's one of those iconic basketball moments. And I think that it is, it'll continue to be that even as we add more moments. So man, hard P2, uh, truly great person. All right. Peter, can't be my time, bro, man. Um, we're going to move on to our next topic, man. It is time for the local hour. It is the local hour, the victory Monday local hour edition here on I'm not going to hold you. We've got a special guest. We've got somebody who I would like to call this guy, a good friend of mine. I'll call this guy. One of the best follows and bears Twitter. He's also the peacemaker in bears Twitter. The one, the only great, Greg show you. Greg, how you feeling my boy? Well, sometimes I'm the peacemaker. Yeah. Sometimes we were all guilty of getting in the mud every once in a while, but I'm doing good. Appreciate you guys having me on. Definitely man. If you're not in tune, y'all need to follow this guy right here, man. And his Twitter page, that is G brands, Jr. 23 on Twitter, man. And of course, he is part of the great CHGO content. They've got over there, all the bear stuff shot everybody over there as CHGO, man. So let's just get right into it. Bears had a big dub last night, 24 to 18. I was in the building and the crazy thing about this, I was sitting there next to my brother for usual. It's me, my brother, and the homie, her power and Nicholas Marianas right next to her. But we were all the beginning of the game. I was going through it. I was like, how much longer I have to deal with this? I was like, I already gave up my baseball team 13 months. I boy caught in the Bulls. I didn't watch the Bulls game. I don't know how long I watched the Bulls game. And I haven't been to a sauce game in two years. I ain't been to a Bulls game. I refuse to get Jared rhymes off any one of my heart on dollars. I was like, am I going to have to, not, I'm never, I'm never going to give up. This should be 100% real about that. They could go on on 17 for the rest of my life. I will still watch them. But I was like, am I going to stop caring about it to that level? And then I felt like things started to wake up a little bit in the crowd. Early on, what was was was not with it. It was Boo Birds and like the first all second drive and the seat and put pick it up. It feels really, really good coming out of that with the dub. Braggs, I'm going to go to you first, man. We took about this last week in Bears Twitter with, you know, how last week's game ended against Indianapolis and, you know, turnovers to Caleb had at the end, Justin having a strong start to the season, Jade and Daniels having that great Monday night football performance and just everything that Bears Twitter was going through this past seven days to get to where they are now. Well, yeah, I saw your tweet halfway through the first half where you're like, I'm not done with this. I was like, Patrick, you and I'm like, oh, no, the fuck you don't. You're not leaving me with these nut jobs. And so, yeah, I mean, I get it though. I understand every Bears wave of emotion and frustration. I mean, some of the conversation, comparing and contrasting. I mean, those things, it's not like that's any different from any other fan base or any other circumstance. We did this with Mitchell Trubisky and to Sean Watson and Patrick Mahomes will continue to do this compare and contrast game. It's not just like the remnants of the Justin Fields arguments from last offseason. You're always going to compare the last quarterback to the next. And, you know, Caleb's got a lot of pressure under man. He's got to go up against Justin and Jade Daniels and CJ Stroud. What he did in his rookie year, he got compared to guys like Trevor Lawrence and Andrew Luck coming out of the draft. You know, he's also got the curse of the quarterback curse. He's got to go up against here in Chicago, which is one of the biggest mountains to climb. And so, there's just a lot of things that he has to face. And I think week to week, you've seen the progression. But overall, when you talk about, you know, the temperature of Bears fans, I think we're an extremely bipolar fan base. We don't know what we want. And we're sitting here. I'm everybody's telling me in the offseason, all that matters is Caleb's development. Quit talking about winning. Next year is going to be the year you win. Then they lose a couple of games. And everybody's like, fire everyone, you know, and even Adam Hogue, you know, who's one of the more level-headed, you know, beat guys, you'll find, you know, on the beat report. But he's sitting there, you know, questioning the online question and Waldron talking about all this stuff. And I go, well, hoe, would you say Caleb Williams is developing well? And he said, yeah, I go, well, who gets credit for that? Does Shane Waldron get any credit for that? This was before the win here on Sunday. And he was like, well, yeah, you know, so the overall, nothing's been perfect so far. But if we could just understand a little bit of patience and you saw what happened here on Sunday, I understand it's a Rams team that's not very good at this time and they're injured as well. But overall, I think we just have to give this an opportunity to come together. Quarter to quarter, game to game, week to week, it's not the popular answer, but it certainly is to me a reality. Yeah, I had a very tough week on bear, so I hadn't looked in the mirror and tell myself that, you know what, you can't be responding to everybody last week. I was, I almost challenged my folks to fight last week. But, and I had Mikey and Bang was like, Mikey, Mikey, tell me the other day people just don't like Caleb, man. Mikey, what did you think about these past seven days in bear sweater and kind of how it kind of feels like we're on a, I don't say much better space because it's bear sweater and things to change my Wednesday. But I feel like from where everything we've had these last week to get to would have went and everything going on right now. Well, it's very simple, winning gears up. You know, going into the matchup with the panthers, two and two makes everybody relax just a little bit more, you know, compared to being one and three. Yesterday, I know before the game, they went ahead and they rattled off the stat that no team that has started off one and three has made the playoffs since the NFL has gone to this format with the new expanded wildcards. So it was a lot of pressure there. You know, like Brad said, this wasn't the the Rams that were used to, you know, missing Cooper Cup, missing Pooka Nakua, but you take wins how you can get them. You still have to line up on Sundays. It's just, you know, it's just a microcosm of kind of the sports media landscape and how it's covered, how it's digested, how it's talked about daily, you know, that we see on Twitter. We have so many different people with various opinions, you know, bang always tells you, bro, like stop arguing with people that have less than, you know, with 300 followers. And it's tough because a lot of the times you're arguing with a fucking bot or a 16 year old or 15 year old, you know, like behind an abbey that's not them, that it's a it's a Justin Fields stand account. And the kid's 15 years old and his mom's, you know, using the public library internet, like, you know, it's just kind of how it is. I don't think we, as people, we're supposed to have this much access, just boards, or to, you know, so a lot of stuff, you know, in reality, which is just constantly being feeding, being feeding, being feeding this. And, you know, like, I got my people in New York that don't really have a leisure system, any fan base like hands and germs, germs is a white man. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, fucking germs, anti anti anti in New York sports, man. Right, in hands too, anti anti New York sports fans, but they'll just say, Hey, I heard Caleb's ass. And it's like, you're not watching the game. You're just watching red zone every, you know, every Sunday. You're not really sitting here as invested as VR. So, um, it gets ugly, you know, because like Brad said, you know, okay, little has to go up against a lot. He has to go up against the Justin field stuff. He has to go up against the overall fact that the Bears have never had a quarterback. He's got to go up against the generational, you know, title that was put on him. He's got it now go up against Jayden Daniels, who's playing his ass off. He's got to go up against the people that are don't like his personality. He's got to go up against the fingernails, the pink phone, all of this bullshit. He has to go through. And it's just like, you know, this is, this is what it is right now. But you can tell that they obviously locked in throughout the weekend, you know, we're going to get into more of the game recap, but Bears fans, you know, take the, uh, the Aaron Rodgers approach and just RE LA X because this is a long season. If you pay the attention to our show, we've stressed patients as far as dealing with a rookie quarterback. It's not going to be instant. You know, the commanders are seeing instant success now, but there's going to be a stretch where it's going to look like shit for them coming down the future because that's just how this sport is. It's a week to week league. So patients, you have to take the wide lens approach and just enjoy, you know, enjoy a game by game. Well, at the end of the day, Scott, it's just a, all these jokers on Twitter, it's bad faith arguments. We get, we get sucked into it all the time because they, they throw the bait and we get fired up and we're like, all right, no, fuck you. You know, I'm, I'm going to come right back at you. But at the end of the day, they're just trying to twist you into a pretzel and to get into a bad, bad faith argument. Last week, you go, Hey man, look at all this, uh, you know, progress from week two to week three through 363 yards, a little confident, like, it doesn't matter unless he wins. So then this week comes around and they're like, Hey, Joseph feels one and that's all that matters. So then this week he wins. Justin feels, listen, they're like, well, he didn't look only 157 yards. They're just arguing to argue and try to twist everybody up into a pretzel. Last week, I was joking with my wife. Last week, Javante is trying to talk shit to me, calls my wife ugly over the bears losing and Caleb not looking good. I go, I told my mom, I go, you better watch out this week. If the bears lose somebody's been coming for you. No, nobody's safe on these bears Twitter streets. We have fun with it at the end of the day. I don't care. You can say the craziest shit to me in the world and you're gonna be hard pressed to see me get, uh, phased by it. Come onto a jobsite with me and listen to what the guys on a construction jobsite will say to you, they'll say whatever they want. So, you know, Javante is making jokes and me and my wife are laughing all week about it. We were making jokes back and forth about it. At the end of the day, that's what bears Twitter is. It's a cesspool and everybody's just trying to argue it. Argue to argue chase cloud. A lot of phones that are on that app. That's all it is. A hundred percent. And then just, there's just one play that encapsulates all of that. You have the Caleb Williams, DJ Moore, mix up on the, on the end zone pass. And right away, right away, you type in Caleb Williams or you see on your feet, there's a million Caleb Williams's ass. DJ Moore hates him. Caleb Williams's ass. He can't complete a pass. Let it die down. See what actually happened on the film. See what DJ Moore has to say. It was a clear mix up. He ran the wrong route. He didn't go a hundred percent. Like everything doesn't need an answer. The definitive title put on it right there in the moment. Yeah, I agree with that, man. Let's, let's get into the actual game. All last night, bears 124 to 18. Nice. A better showing for the offense. Like I said, Caleb wasn't a lot of yards, but I feel like it was real fishing game. I think it was his best, you know, probably his most mature game, I'll probably say, in the way he played where, you know, he made the smart decisions. You know, he was able, he's been getting the ball out quick period this entire time, but it really felt like this one he had like a better feel of the offense, I guess, like he stayed in the pocket when he had to that touchdown pass, DJ Moore was chef's kiss. Like the way he stood there, despite all the pressure coming, he's going through all his reads and still getting off an accurate ball. You 17 for 23, 157 yards passing, one touchdown. And you know, yes, act three times, but I just really think that's what it's going to be like this offensive line. The rushing all the other team that 28 carries 131 yards rushing and two touchdowns. One for DeAndre Swift, one for Roshawn Johnson, DeAndre Swift also led the receivers, said reception 72 yards. And it was pretty, pretty, you know, spread out, you know, Pokemon got three catches, DJ Moore got three kid in L and three Romo only have one, but a pretty balanced attack. I feel like to me, I said on the show on Friday, I said on 79th and Hollis last Wednesday, that all player meetings, player coach meetings usually end in one or two ways. Either they really go great, or this takes the season to hell. And I think that for what we saw at the beginning, it looked like it was going bad. I was like, what did they talk about that meeting? You know, it looked like they learned anything, like while they're still calling screens with with with Cole commit on third down, but then they started getting to their rhythm. And one thing I have to get Rosha credit for, it's the second, second half in a row where he's called a better game. And so I that I got to get props for, Saul, DeAndre Swift, Claire Herbert was not out there at all, which I personally have a problem for because I said this is the off season. My high take, well, I thought he was actually going to get traded because I didn't think there'll be no useful with DeAndre with Rosha. And you really just saw like the balance and the dedication to the run. I think there's maybe only one or two shotgun runs. I feel like they learn from that. I think as we go on through the season, I want to see more targets for your other weapons, you know, saying I think that I come with Caleb earning and Waldron learned the same time. But overall, I really don't have any complaints for how the offense look. Now, of course, they got to do this again, you know, I think like my like Mercedes Lewis said, in his in his post game, anybody can do it one time. Consistency is what you're going to see from here on now, man. Uh, babe, what did you see from the offense just today? And what do you like the progress for Waldron? What will the Waldron grade? Look, I like the fact that we ran the ball and we stay consistent and running the ball. Um, it wasn't about having to see a specific running back. It was just about using that damn running back. Um, and they made it a case to get Roshawn and swift into it. And this was the swift game. This was the game that we was expecting him to have a couple of games ago. This is the game where when you look at his contract, this is what we paid you to do. Um, not just to be a change of pace, but to change the game. And that's what he did with a lot of his touches and Roshawn, Roshawn was the bully out there. Um, and that's what we needed. Now with Khalil Herbert, it makes me wonder what is the future for him. Um, do you, do you look at him as one of those trade pieces to get an extra pick for next year's draft or whatever? Um, could you see a three, a three man weave in the backfield? I don't know what all of the weapons that you have, um, um, on the other skill positions with that being said, though, I did like what I see from the soft from the offense overall. Yeah. I was also one of those people that was like, Oh, here we go with this shit. This is how we're going to start off. Um, but not only did I like that they kept with that game plan, which smoothed me out a little bit. Um, the second half adjustments, like what I'm noticing with this bear's team that I don't think a lot of people I'm talking about is that the second half turns out to be a little bit of a different game, especially on the defensive side of the ball. That this team have, this is the best second half adjustments team that I've seen in quite some time. We used to bitch more than complain about how no matter what happened when Matt Nagy and them get into the, uh, get into the locker room and shit gon' change. We gon' get our ass whoop. And we was worried about that a little bit last year as well, but this team second half makes me more comfortable to know that we're not going to be out of any game. If they keep acting the way that they acting and doing what they're doing to the point where I still say this. I'm consistent with this. The offense is going to take time to wait at the seasons. We talked about this in the chat. The way that the seasons are break down, we just had our preseason. If the offense could get into shape in this next quarter of the season, and if the bands continue to do what they doing when it comes to second half adjustments, we're not going to be out of any game this season. I think the defense alone, like you just said, it's going to keep us or keep them. I'm making my media, media chops on, keep them in the game going forward. Now, I'll tell you, what you like that you saw from saying, Roger, what grade would you give them for yesterday's performance? I would give him a beat. I think what I like more than anything is he put his players in a position to succeed. The play that's the most to me is a simple play, but the touchdown run from Roshan Johnson, when he put the backup center in that fullback, and they just ran old school downhill and got the touchdown. It was no more running lateral. No more trying to do fancy trick plays in the red zone. It was more so trying to put the ball in the end zone, even the misses from Caleb. You saw them consistently trying to move the ball down the field, trying to get the ball in the end zone. I think those of us like myself who hyped it, I made the joke about it because there was 40. I'll get the USC tattoo, but we're coming to reality that he's learning. It's still a process. This offense is still growing. We still have a first year in the system. Like I said, Scott, they sold us a dream the way they hyped it at the beginning. We've been putting in place since March. Even without that talk, you still have to get out there on the field and actually do it. I like that. Like I said, I feel like at the end of the day, he put his best players in a position to succeed. That's something we've got to see going forward. Also, a lot of the rotation, you saw the best players out there. It was no more just randomly. No D'Andre Carter. I'm going to choose Scott. I think Vailus has probably played his last snap with the Bears. A lot of inactive from him. But I like that. I want to see the best players. Keenan was back and let's continue to do that and build from that. So, Braggs, I know when we were at campus here, I think one thing we saw from Caleb, I know even from being there doing the OCA's and stuff, it's like sometimes it started off slow. But once he starts to get it, it really heats up. You saw that at the beginning of the camp. Sometimes he wasn't getting a little bit, then it got better and better. We're seeing the same thing here. What did you see from Caleb and how Walter kind of used Caleb and what did you like overall for what you saw from Walter yesterday? Yeah, I mean, to me, you're right. The camp kind of has become a microcosm of what we've seen it in the regular season so far. Struggling early and getting better and better as it goes along. And by the end of camp, they were playing very well. And you were like, that's what fooled a lot of us. Even the people that were trying to stay guarded and like, I'm not going to get over hyped. And then by the end of camp, you're like, all right, I'm hyped. And hard knocks, I think, had a little bit to do with that too. Showing them beating the breaks off Cincinnati in the rain and the joint practice. And all of a sudden, it's like, well, Cincinnati's a good team. And that means the Bears should be good. Well, we were so worried about how many reps Caleb was getting in those preseason games. We forgot to ask how many reps DeAndre swept in the run game we're getting in those games. And they didn't give him any. And it showed here, he had as many yards here in week four as he had all of weeks one through three. And so when you talk about Waldron, you know, having to adjust and acclimate to his personnel, I mean, week one, he had Gerald Everett has more snaps than Colcomett. That's completely reversed. Gerald Everett's barely getting on the field now. To your guys's point, you don't see DeAndre Carter out there on Sunday or yesterday. And so it's just little by little trying to figure out who you want. Last week, go line four runs. You don't have Roshawn Johnson with the ball. This week, you get on the go line. The very first place, jumbo package with Doug Kramer as your full back. And then they did that play again in the third in the fourth quarter on a big third and one where they needed it. And those are attitude run calls. Those are, this is what we are showing you what we're running, try and stop us. And I was surprised the Bears got both of those so convincingly like for them to have not really shown that. And then I just think they had said enough said enough. And Waldron said enough's enough. The offensive line said enough's enough. DeAndre swift and Roshawn Johnson said enough's enough. So good on them, you know, and that's where it requires us to have some patience for these guys to figure it out. Because everybody's like, well, what the heck? How come you didn't have this time, week one? Yeah, that's, that's the goal. But at the end of the day, as long as they do figure it out, I'll be happy with that and find a way to win a football game as you get there. So Shane Waldron, you talk about adjustments or you talk about, yeah, this, this team having great second half adjustments, I completely agree with you. But even in this game, zero points in the fourth quarter or in the first quarter, they've had three points overall in all four first quarters of the season. The defense too, if you look like we, we, this was the first game the Bears actually played with a lead. And I get a lot of that has to do with the offense. But if the defense wants to hold themselves to a higher standard like Jalen Johnson's trying to preach, then you want to be elite level defense, you got to hold it down. You got to do everything you can to turn the football over like you did Montes sweat and put Caleb Williams in a position to make a play and get a touchdown, you know, on a short field. Those are the things that we're used to seeing in the lovey Smith era. And that's what this defense ultimately is going to have to do. And you've got winnable games coming up against the Panthers, Jaguars, then after the buy, you got some games, you know, where with the commanders, Cardinals and Patriots, you know, I'm not saying they can lose any of these games, but they can certainly win these games as well. And it's going to require, you know, obviously to continue these second half adjustments, but let's try to get off to a faster start here. The first half in the first quarter. So we're not, you know, all stressing out and putting stress on the team as you can't, you can't lean on this and expect everything to come into place, you know, in a three nothing game in the second half. But overall, you got to love what you saw from Shane Waldron in this game. And you got to love the attitude adjustment by the entire team in general. And to kind of piggyback off with what you were saying about, you know, how there's still stuff to work on in a winnable schedule. That's why I said that yesterday was such an important game. As I said on Friday, like I was like, I don't want to put must win over the season, but it's a very distinct difference between two and two and one and three. And DJ Moore said that on Mully and Hall, there's one in life. You start going to lose the street. You just dig yourself a bigger and bigger hole, bigger hole, then it's kind of hard to get out of. Now you feel much better about the season. One thing let me speak, you always say quarters. Now, no, we have an odd number of games now, not 16 anymore, but still technically the first quarter season. You come out as two or two, especially as slow as your office is looking. I'll take that. Mikey, I'm gonna kind of change the question a little bit for you. Tell me number one, what you thought about what Waldron did great last night, what you think he can do better up. And just what you think about Caleb's progress each week. Well, for me, one thing that I have been preaching is I wanted to see more intermediate routes. I felt like obviously we've seen that Caleb had been taking the beating in the pocket, getting sacked six, seven times in consecutive weeks. And I felt like all of the routes were long developing. Yesterday, we saw kind of a more short game plan. A lot of quick outs, a lot of stuff to the running back. You know, DeAndre Swift had seven receptions. They were utilizing him in different ways. Co-commit, being able to be that security blanket for Caleb Williams, Keenan Allen, I believe one of the first third down completions was a tight throw to Keenan Allen on the right hash. I think there was two DBs draped over. I mean, he was able to get that. So I really liked that. And then there was a balance. 23 pass attempts for Caleb Williams, 17 of 23 for 157. I liked that. They were able to have that balance of the run game and the pass game. I think what really worked is that they were able to kind of start chipping away at the run game. I didn't believe DeAndre Swift had about almost six yards of quick carry, obviously. It's a little bit exaggerated because of the one big long run. And then, you know, Grosham was averaging, I think, like close to like 3.5 per carry. And you got to look at it for that. You know, they were using him a more short goal, you know, short distances. But it worked. My thing is, this is, we're witnessing like the anti-Matnagi. You know, you guys remember Matnagi, like the first 15 scripted plays? It looked amazing. The first 15 plays for Shane Wajan, I don't know what the fuck we're doing. Like, I'm literally, I was one of the people that tweeted right away, like, I don't know why I subject myself to this. I'm 35 years old. I don't know why I keep doing this to myself. And then, you know, the defense will reel me back in. So I just want to see us for once, go ahead and get out to a quick start. You know, put up seven right away or, you know, at least get some positive momentum. Get a couple first downs, you know, within that first possession. Because one thing I'm noticing is, you know, too, a lot of teams are just deferring. Like, yeah, we're going to defer with the rookie quarterback out there. Let's see what they could do right away. You know, so the Bears are obviously going to have to adjust to that and get off to, you know, a hot start. But what I really did like was just the intermediate routes. I do believe that the deep balls will come to, you know, the wide receivers deep down the field. Eventually, it's going to take time. But you know, I was really, I was really glad in how Caleb Williams was able to spread the ball around and kind of in that short to intermediate range, you know, like he was, he was automatic. Yeah, I think one thing too, when we talk about Caleb's progress, I like to see how like he's getting better and things, you know, the first two weeks, he was not really good against the blitz. Got much better last week against Indianapolis in this week, when he's facing the blitz, you know, he was eight or nine for 75 yards on the touchdown. And I think that's something that's been really, really great. His QB rating, pass rating is getting higher, higher, no matter how, you know, depending on how much you value that standing more, it's getting higher, higher each week. And I think that, yeah, we'd have loved for him to come out guns ablaze and kind of had to start the CJ Strowhead last year and stop the Jayden Daniels is having right now. But I also think that kind of goes back to coaching. I think that everybody on this show would have all been fine with Cliff King's very being offensive party. And I don't think we have one person on the show who's attractive to that. And we see just how different scheming is and what is it now. But for the first time in my life, that I can't remember ever, you know, even when I look at offensive problems, the quarterback's not one of them, you know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like you're just seeing stuff. The talent is always great. And then things that he messes up, he quickly changes, you know, the leadership value. Everybody's talking about DJ Moore sitting on the side of himself. A lot of people don't understand. It's like when I forgot who reported it, somebody said that Caleb has that arm band thing. Like, even wearing that since week one, like that ain't, they something new. Like DJ likes sitting on a bench myself. That's just what he does. And if there's anything I've learned about DJ Moore being around him, he's a happy, I want to say he's a happy girl, lucky guy. He's always in a good mood. And then DJ just being his own word. I don't know if he spoke. But if you see him high when you'd be around, you'd be chill all the time. So I didn't think it was a problem, especially seeing the conversation that he had with Caleb and trying to see what happened on that Miss Touchdown. Then it go out there and throw one. I think that just shows just how much Caleb is progressing. Brax, I'm going to go back to you. What, what, what did you like the most you're seeing from Caleb's progression each and every week? Well, I think the thing you've seen overall for straight weeks is his poise in the pocket. Even if the pocket is collapsing, he doesn't get rattled. You know, he takes some sacks. He'll miss a read. He'll miss a throw. But you see a guy that is comfortable than we're used to seeing most quarterbacks in the pocket. And there's times even where like, man, get out of the pocket. But no, he wants to stay in it. And there were times in the first half, like maybe he could have spun out like he does and do some crazy jumpman throw. But then if he does that on the Touchdown pass to DJ Moore, that Touchdown pass never happens. He stays in the pocket. Brax and Jones is about to give up another sack. I mean, Jared verse was giving him the business yesterday, but that didn't deter Caleb Williams from standing strong in that pocket. Looks left, sees DJ Moore right on a linebacker and puts a dime on him in a tight pocket, tight pocket throw. So to me, overall, his pocket presence has been great. Now, when you talk about who's to blame for the offensive struggle so far, Caleb certainly has a hand in that only because he's a young quarterback, learning the calls at the line of scrimmage. He talked about a couple weeks ago or last week communication with the center. Then this week was talking about communication with his offensive coordinator. Those things take time communication, chemistry, especially when you have injuries to your offensive line, injury with Keenan Allen really injuries all three your wide receivers early on at certain points. So to me, him trying to identify not just protections for past plays, but lining up the protections on run plays. And they're putting a lot of responsibility on his plate. So what's been great is watching his progressional development in that area. But the thing that's been consistent for four weeks is his poise in the pocket. And again, you, you guys brought up the adjustments and getting better as the game goes along. We have a quarterback that doesn't melt down as the game goes along. That's something we aren't typically used to. As things get worse, the quarterback gets worse normally for us. But this guy seems to continue to show poise and try to fight through it. You even saw that in week one as pitiful as they look, they still found a way to scratch some points off the board to help that comeback against the titans in a miracle win. So overall, there's nothing to not like about what Caleb Williams is doing. Could it have been better? Sure. Who gives a shit? What matters is the end game? The million dollar question is, is he the guy? That's all that matters. And unless you think that he's going to get shell shocked by the hits he's taking, because he's certainly taking a lot, or he's never going to be able to pick up reading defenses. If those things you think are going to happen, then he's not the guy. Other than that, all the talent he has, there's, there's no questioning his talent. It's just about processing what he's seeing in front of him and continuing to develop as the leader behind the line of scrimmage. Once he gets that stuff down, once the offensive line starts creating pockets for him, he's going to be a great quarterback for the Bears. And every fan should be excited for that. And there should be no reason to be throwing strays and, and, and bullshit about quarterbacks that don't play for the Bears. The guy we've got is a good quarterback. And that should be enough for Bears fans. But you know what, though? We live in a world where we are professional overreactors, right? Whether it is, he threw for 363 yards. And it was, why are we out of ore? Man, he stripped sack. This looks like Justin, or then you see Justin have the game that he has. He's like, oh, even though they lost. I will too echo Bragg's statement and even go further. Appreciate this now. Appreciate what you see for Caleb right now. Because when it does, when it does turn over, your guys are going to forget about all of that. And we're going to have 10 to 15 years with an excellent quarterback. But appreciate these times that we're getting right now. Because these are, in my opinion, these are the last times we're going to see this. Like, if I knew we had the right quarterback during the Houston game, I knew we had the right quick question for you. It's like, I don't have kids. So you know, it's like, when you watch your kids walk, like, take advantage of them being toddlers. Take advantage of them being toddlers, fam. Like, when I look at my kids now, especially the two younger ones, I'm like, yo, when y'all grew up, y'all gonna be, y'all gonna be something, y'all gonna do something. You gonna have all the girls, or you know, place, like, appreciate this now. Because I thought after that Houston game, where we that could have been a collapsed game. And then what happened that weekend in general, with Jalen Daniels having the game that he had, we could have been in Def Con 5 right now. But not only we not, we have some winnable games coming up. So appreciate these times right now. Because we're really seeing the true essence of developing a quarterback. And quite honestly, I can't think of a time where I've been a Bears fan, and we truly saw the development of a QB, seeing it in real time. And that's why I think some people are still on the fence about some things. Because they used to see in the development of a situation, either. We got Jay color off of a trade. We didn't really have to develop him. So yeah, just appreciate these times, uh, everybody everybody's making adjustments. I mean, Simone Biles was even on the sidelines wearing Bears gear and I'm glad you got all right. Shout out to me, got all right. It takes it takes time. And I think too, there's something I've noticed from just like being in the building and being around is Caleb is still kept his enthusiasm, I guess. Like, you know, when he will be in the summer, I'd be like, you know, I want to how long he gonna keep with that. Hey, everybody in the club, it was he keep doing this. You know, that that's why I like to see he's still he's very are confident. I don't think that I think y'all look cockiness in them too, which is what you want to have from your quarterback. And I think that's something that like you said, bang, he could have crumbled at that Houston thing. He got pummeled, bro. Like, and it was it was allowed up in Houston. crowds was going wild and that could have brought him back down. But I also think too, that last year USC kind of prepared him for this a little bit. I've always said this, USC is LA's pro football team. It's not the Rams, and it's definitely not the charges. It's USC. They come off that year and he had a terrible offensive line. It didn't have a good record. And to deal with that kind of scrutiny, obviously, it's not the same as Chicago. Chicago media, Chicago fan base are a completely different world than anything out there in Los Angeles. But I kind of think that propped him a little bit. Don't tell you, you, you, you, you said you were expected a lot from him as well this season like we all were. But what do you, what do you take from his performance and what do you like, what do you like that you've seen with the week? I like the fact that his confidence doesn't look shaken. I know we talk about, you know, not one quarterback to get snakebitten or develop bad habits. We see how quickly things turned for Bryce Young, and that was something that we know with his talent. That's something we didn't want to see. So I think, you know, despite the offensive line issues and the shuffling of the deck, I mean, he's continued to show you why the people are so high. Like Brack said, he's been committed to standing in a pocket and working in the pocket. I still want him to retire that spin move, but, you know, it, it works for him. And yesterday we saw, you know, him, again, you know, the time is going to come with the deep balls in the balls downfield. But he was actually working the ball, he was making, taking the layups, making those throws. He made some really, really good throws. Like putting them in some tight windows, the balls that I think that, you know, a lot of other quarterbacks, had they thrown them, would have been intercepted, you know. So I'm loving the way he did. I was exactly like, he's processing everything. Well, really going through his progression, something that we've always seen quarterback struggle with. Most of our quarterbacks have been a one read and run kind of guy, but to see him sit there and go through, you know, all of his progressions and sometimes come back to the first progression or whatever. That's been something that's a sight to see from a rookie. Also, you know, the fact that they've given him full control of the protections and, you know, he comes up, he makes adjustments, he really shows that he has, you know, a full grasp of the offense, you know, already. And it's just about getting that consistency and putting it out there on the field. So I think for me, again, a lot of my issues, I'm not with Caleb. It's the offensive line, which is something we all talked about going cheap on the O line. And now we're seeing the, you know, the results of that. So for me, I think I've really enjoyed the fact that he hasn't looked at shaking. He hasn't looked at shaking. I'm glad you said that he came, he comes into the building with that same enthusiasm. I think that's important and that's showing, you know, more and more that he really is like, he's a quarterback. We're like, he's really, you know, built for this. And yesterday it was dope to see him because we talk, we see him talk about Matt Stafford a lot. Some of the throws that he was making, like both of them made yesterday were really impressive. So that was dope. So I mean, I'm, I'm beyond excited for what we have and, you know, at the quarterback position. And one thing I'll say about Stanford when we move on to the next topic, I said in the press box, I told anybody who said next week, he's gonna throw us one. There's one thing I know, stat papper is still stat papper. I don't care what he did over there in LA won the championship. Great. I think he's a much better credit quarterback than people give him credit for. But when he plays in the North, he gonna throw a pick and he should have had two of jacorn ain't run out of bounds. But I saw it coming and Jaquan brisket, this side number him. That's game. I've seen him say, I'll play as a pro. I know he had a game last year. He had 17 tackles. That was this was yes. Yeah, he was all over the field, man. The sack that came out of nowhere. He had, he had Stafford like you, the came out the corner. It was just a great overall game for him. Now, Greg, you were talking about the schedule. And that's something I want to talk about now here. The next five games before we enter the complet of hell. Now, you don't know the complet of hell is that's when they play all of their division rivals. And then they also got a little bit of Seahawks and Niners sprinkled in there, literally their final one, two, three, four, like nine games or gets their four opponent three, I mean, eight games, three opponents, and they got the North and they got the Niners in the end, you got the Seahawks before they get to them. You've got the Panthers at the crib this week. That's gonna be a game with an Andy Dalton revenge game. Hopefully not even when they lost, they've been playing better. They played better against that terrible bit. That bagel's defense is probably worse than not. Like I knew to some was all when the Bears, both the first and the second teams would kill them and camp. I was like, yeah, this might be a tough defense, but you play the Panthers at the crib on Sunday. After that, go to London. I'll be there. Bragg's be there. Don said be there. They'll be playing the Jaguars in trick off trail of looking looking. I don't even know if Doug Peters need going to make the flight to get to London. That's how bad they look right now. Then you get a Bobby. You come up. Now, this is the game that everybody's going to be looking at the game at that. They're basic and drive Bears fans off a cliff. That is October 27 in D.C. Washington Command is versus the Chicago Bears. That's the game. And then you got the Cardinals. The Cardinals, they looking kind of men too, but you know the mid mid afternoon West Coast games being a little shaky. And then you come home against the New England Patriots before the other gauntlet starts. I think that there is a world where they could go for one. Am I saying they going for one? No, I've got to see more consistency from this offense before I go there. But this five game stretch to me is a season because I believe they can't go any worse than three and two if they want to shot in the second half of the season. Brax, what do you think about this schedule? And you know, what's your competence level for these next five games? Well, yeah, I mean, you're right. I mean, the goal should be to try to go four and one here because then that sets you up at six and three with what, you know, and then you and then you have eight games to go and you can go four and four in those games. Split split the the hell gauntlet. What'd you call it, Scott? I got the gauntlet from hell. The gauntlet from hell. So if you if you're six and three, you can go four and four the rest of the way in the gauntlet from hell. So that that's why when you said, well, these games aren't, you know, the Rams game, I didn't want to call it a must win. I was. I call that a must win. The Colts game was a must win. Week one was a must win because it's a numbers game at this point. If they've beaten the Colts, then they'd only have to go three into the next five games, which certainly seems a lot more reasonable. Four and one's like, dang, you know, I don't know if we really have any evidence that they can do that. I didn't really have any evidence that they could beat the Rams, but I picked them to beat the Rams and somehow they did. So if they keep getting gradually better on offense, the way they have, I think it's a reasonable expectation that they can go four and one. Certainly it's not a certainty by any means, but it all starts here. These first two games where you're playing a team in the Panthers that are one and three and the Jaguars that are 0 and 4 right now, you know, and Anthony Richardson might not play against the Jags here coming up this Sunday. So maybe the Jags can get their first win before they play the Bears. And it's 100% and if not, maybe Doug Peterson doesn't make the trip to London. That's certainly going to be interesting, too, because the Jags play back-to-back weeks in London. And I like the fact that and I like the fact that we got them on the first week and not the second week where they've been there for a little bit. Everybody calls it home field advantage for the Jags because they go out there all the time. But, you know, I was at the Bears game in 2019 and I'm here to tell you it was all Bears fans at that stadium. So I don't know how much has changed here in the last three, four or five years since I've been there. But all I know is, you know, I know Bears fans will be well represented in that game. So get these two wins and get to the bye week. Now you have, you know, a nice handful of games to look at the film, look at your adjustments that you need to make. And now you enter those three games, which is a nice kind of warm-up before the gauntlet from hell. Maybe they flex that Washington game, the commander's game versus the Bears, into a Sunday night football affair. I wouldn't surprise me at all. Have Jay Daniels and Caleb Williams face off. I'm not sure what the Sunday night slate for that game for that week is. I thought about that earlier too. I looked at it. It's Dallas and San Francisco. So I don't think... They're not as Jerry's world. Yeah. No, Jerry, Jerry got the dibs on that. So that's fine. You know, maybe it gets flexed into the three o'clock spot though. You never know. So, you know, overall, yes, four and one should be the goal. But certainly winnable games here to go on a run. And if the Bears keep now, it's like every week they check a box, right? You know, every week they feel, all right, don't get Caleb killed. Check. You know, you know, next week, start throwing the ball vertically. Check next week. All right. Now we're running the ball. Check. Now put it all together. You know, and they don't have to be great to win games. You know, their defense and their special teams are picking them up. So they just have to get marginally better. And then the hope is by the time you play Green Bay, you've reached a point where you can start playing competitive football against real deal teams. Yeah. Mike, what's your feel heading into these next five winnable games? Well, I had always said, you know, what we see in the first week of September, I hope it's not, you know, the Bears team that we see in November, just kind of like to echo Greg sentiment to see these are the games where we can go ahead and start to develop good develop good habits, prop up the offense. You know, we just go go to Sunday. We're going to be going up against the Carolina Panthers who primarily ranked 28th in the league in a point of opponent yards per game at 358. They give up 32 points a game on defense so that you're looking at the worst team in the NFL as far as that. You're playing another home game two and oh at home. I think in order for you to find a path to the playoffs, you have to win your home games. If you win your home games, split, you know, split or go 500 on the road, that's like 11 wins, 12 wins. It's very simple. So I think that we're getting there. Take care of business against the Panthers. Now you go to London. For me, that Jaguars game is tricky because they do have, they do have some weapons. They're not putting it all together. But again, defensively, I believe they're 30th in points given up per game. And I want to say they're last in the league in yards, opponent yards per game given up. So these are two games. We're really three games coming off with the Rams. The Rams game was as far as their defense and what they give up. But three games with the offense and Shane Waldron and the running game and the passing game where everything can start to build up, you know, as we get into that matchup that we see, you know, that weekend of your birthday sky with Jayden Daniels. Right now I have the, I have the Bears beating the Panthers into jags. That commander's game is really going to be a toss up. I really want to see how the commanders look against a really good defense. We'll be able to see that during the bi-week as they play on the road against Lamar and those boys in Baltimore. But I think the Bears can go ahead and be six and three going into, you know, that, you know, that pivotal stretch in November. I will be at that game the week before Thanksgiving, that division game with the Vikings, I will be there. So it's, you have to, you have to take the layups. You have to beat these teams and it's kind of like how we said the other day. The Colts game was a game that was winnable and the Bears should have won it and they lost it. They're going to find a way to fuck around and win a game that they have no business winning, you know, later on in the season. Ben, you said on the, I'm not going to hold you bare especially that this is the part of the schedule where they were going to go on and run. Do you still feel that way? Oh, you damn right. I'm still delusional. It's not going to change. This, this has to be it. This is the, the pre-season is now over. And now since the pre-season is over, you're going against teams that struggle. Like I said during the pre-season special, they're going up against teams that ain't really improved. Yeah. Like when you look at, when you look at the schedule where people be procrasticating and making their predictions about the Bears, I don't really think people be really looking at the schedule because when you look at this part of the schedule, this is the part of the schedule. What the huffness is that, right? I wish they would have won that coach game. I had that as a victory, but now since that is done and over with, I did have the Rams as a win. So now if you can roll off of these and gain confidence, that to me helps you out when you get to the gauntlet of hell. Because if I'm a more confident team going up against the division, especially, I don't care if they came back or not, especially the way that you saw Green Bay play, especially if you're still not that confident in Sam Darnell. And then we'll see what happens with Detroit tonight, but you beat them last year once, it should have beat them twice. So if I'm the Bears, if I could roll off three to four straight, when we get into the division time, I'm confident as hell because now my quarterback is better than he was when you first saw him. And the defense is better than what you saw last year because now we're even a more confident team. I expect to see more from Gervan Dexter Senior. I definitely believe that these next four games should be the games that he dominated because all of those teams for the exception of the commanders has some offensive line issues too. So I see a very opportunity for a very confident Bears team to be entering the division round of this season because this is an opportunity for them to win at least three straight and four of the four of the five games that's coming up. Dante, what's your feeling on these next round? I don't want to be the god of state. I don't want to be the god to be ridiculous, but I do think the coast game is a game that I feel like we should have won that we've lost. So to compensate, I think there's a game on the schedule that we're going to win that people think we're going to lose. And I think it's going to be that commander game. I do think that they can they're going to go on a sustained run and they will be the commander's game is the third game out of the five. Yeah, yeah. The third one out of five is right out of the body. Okay, yeah, there'll be two, you know, going into that game. And the funny thing is we'll all be drunk again, but that's going to be a great day. It'll be a great day. But no, I really, I believe four and one is attainable as is for, I don't know, but like you said, Braggs, they haven't shown us enough for me to put my full faith in that, like until you show me that you can sit, like go out here and beat the team just supposed to be, which we just saw them not do. It's tough to do it. So, but I think four and one is, is, is reasonable. And I think, my faith in that is really high. I'm going to go, I'm 70 30 on that. I'm going to go four and one in this five game stretch. Because I think the defense is that good. I want you downtown. I'm 70 32. I think I'm taking a more of a one game but a time approach for my mental sanity. But I think they've got the reason I'm so confident, even though I'm just defense, bro. It's better than I thought it was going to be. And the hip jailer Johnson got there. They said, man, we, I don't like how we planned. That's what I want to get. Keep getting better. Keep finding ways to dominate. If you look at the quarterbacks that go on up against Andy Dolly, not falling for it, trick off Trev as I, as, as I call them, Duvall Daniel Jones. And if you take away the fact that he was this football Jesus in Georgia when he was, when he was a, when he was a teenager in, in Clemson, he's exactly what Daniel Jones is. And so I'm, you got that comeback. Jayden's been great. But what, what did a man say? Yeah, I'm a little word, but you know, I packed that thing too. I think this defense got some for Jay then, you know what I'm saying? I don't know what Caleb was going to do, but I, I feel pretty good about what that defense can do to kind of mix things up for that rookie. Then after that, you got a, you got a man, man, you got Colin Murray. I've never been that big McCollum Murray fan. I feel like that's taken care of. I don't care who's out there. Drake May, Jacob Percet, Drew Bledso, you can beat the Patriots. That's why I'm so confident because of the defense and it's going to give the offense ample opportunities to get it done. So I feel like the Bears in just taking one game of time this week, worried about Carolina, not got Carolina. Okay. We, we, we, we in, we in London now. Let's, let's not have the same London game we have five years ago. Let's take a little bit of different pros to this. Take that out. And then I think Caleb himself is going to have that commander's game circle. He's going back home. You know what I'm saying? He got everybody over there, uh, Ruben Fachete Daniels. Let's see. He's going like, yo, don't forget about your boy. So I definitely think there's a, I feel good about it. I'm not going to put a prediction out there, but I, that's a great chance for them to go for one in this, in this band, man. Um, last batch time before we wrap this how up with some small baseball Chicago Bears talk. So my, my favorite, if y'all know me, y'all know my favorite, uh, football player of all time. This is Tom Brady. Um, the first ever, um, Subaru party I had. I was a seventh grade. It was the Bears and the, and I bet it was the Patriots and the Rams. First, I was a Subaru party. And that was Tom Brady's first championship. And to see his whole career, we all know the free agency he had five years ago, um, where he decided to go to Tampa Bay. He went up there yesterday, up there in his third and his fourth game now, uh, in Tampa. They played against Eagles. And I got a little bit for Jalen Hurts in a second now. I ain't forgot about you either, but, um, he went up there, said he almost wants it. That's the problem I have with that statement. This is like, when you get a new relationship and some girl, you really want hits. Like, you know, I was going to let you hit that. That's, I don't want to hit it. Leave it alone. It's kind of like when Duane way he gets in front of the camera, every chance he hit or me and Brahms coming, if that's trade that sent Lou Audane to my, to, uh, the couples would have went down. We was coming. I don't want to know, like leave it alone for my sanity. I didn't need to know that she was even considering the Bears. Now, knowing how the Bears are, he probably wouldn't have went out there looking like Vinnie test the birdie, but that's neither here nor there. The fact that that was a chance. I, you, you could have left that alone. Like, what, what, what did Cardi B say? What was the reason? What was the reason for telling me that he just could have let that go. Brakes, you take anything from what Brady said. You think there's something you're saying off, you know, to kind of get his commentary chops going. I'm not stupid. I don't believe him. He was never coming to Chicago. Are you kidding me? Go down to Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay where it's nice. There's no, uh, state taxes or you can go to Chicago where they mess everything up and you'd have to literally put this entire team and organization on your back and deal with all the crap that you got to deal with here in Chicago. He wouldn't come in here. Come on now. He's just playing games. He's telling stories. I'm sure the Bears did call and he was like, yeah, thanks for calling. I'll talk to you later. Hey, you know how I knew he wasn't coming. Look at the cards. Said bears 10 million. Tampa Bay, 20, 20 something. It was like $27 million. They're right. It's not a conversation. I know more people from Chicago and Tampa right now. And they're leaving us. So you mean to tell me you go take our little little minor 10 million? Well, you know, McCasky's offering 15 bucks an hour to former players of the Bears. So yeah, come be a ball boy. Yeah, we know you play it. Come be a ball boy. And then it's also, I didn't believe I didn't kind of call cap a little bit. Does that one live in the Chicago? But I know they were divorced. They were divorced. They were like, they were already, they were already kind of like split because he had said he was like, I would have to be closer to his first son and stuff like they were already kind of going through that thing. But she was kicking. He was not. She was teaching already. Exactly. She was a you want to school Bob? You want to school Bob? But you know, and like, let's be real. Like, Tom Brady was going to come. And you know what it would look like? It would look like right now. It was no, it would have been looking like what it's looking like in New York right now with Aaron Rogers and Robert Sola. Tom Brady was not taking orders from Matt Nagy and Bill Lazer as his offensive coordinator. He was going to come in and tell them this is how we're going to do everything. That shit wasn't going to slide. Yeah. Yeah. That was not going to be funny to watch him take calls from Bill Lazer six times we were champion. Let me tell you how to run offense. Yeah. Yeah, that way will happen. I'm sick of talking about Tom Brady and I like Tom Brady. He's my goal. You know, I think he's doing much better in the booth. Yeah. Yeah. He's getting, he's getting getting comfortable up there. But in terms of anything Chicago being related, you'll say he would have broke all the various records all week seven. Probably. Probably. But not even flash cards at the crib. As soon as I saw 10 million, I was like, oh, ain't no way ahead. You was good to you. We're going to wrap these last 10 minutes up here with Bragg's here on the local world, man. We got to unfortunately talk about the state of Chicago baseball. As he said, y'all can have it. You want to take a little 10 minute break. It's on you. Even though we're not really going to be talking X's and O's. But the thing here is with the White Sox, I sat on this show 13 months ago that I was giving them up. And I did. I'm talking to the T. I'm following all I fall as on Instagram. So I don't have any emotional attachment to what has happened these last whatever the months. But the White Sox finished 41 and 121. Yes, that is the worst record in the history, the long history of major league baseball. Before we get to the Cubs, I want to actually get a photo Bragg's this one, because honestly, a Cubs fans honestly deserve two troll Sox fans for the amount of shit. We and I say weeks, I was part of it that we talked after, you know, when the reveal was coming for the reveal to fail and for it to get just as bad as this, Bragg's I'm here to flow. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely probably the newest low in Chicago sports history, right? And it's so bad that like you said, most Sox fans don't even really give a shit. They like, they're so beaten. I can't even troll them because they don't care. They're just laying there dead on the road. And so I get it. But at the same time, I mean, for them to have the most losses in baseball history and in that last week of home games, where all of a sudden, Sox fans started coming back to the stadium to try to see if the team was going to break the record. They wanted to be there for history. And they're rooting for it to be a scarlet letter on on Jerry Reinsdorf, you know, they're not rooting for their team that they love to have this record. They want Jerry to hold this record because of the disdain they have for him. So I totally get the the mindset there. But at the same time, it's like this surreal thing where Sox fans are booing the team, then White Sox on the field for winning games. And then the team is winning in spite of the fed to spite the fans for coming out to watch them lose. That was the most white Sox shit ever. And I personally think I I've been I've been accused of talking down to some white Sox. I thought that's pathetic. I'm sorry. Like, I don't don't pull because they want like, oh, I want to be a part of the worst team ever like, what was part of it? But what anyone say? That ain't how the game was played. You can't do that. I didn't I didn't understand it. And Jerry Reinsdorf going to keep, you know, cash and checks. He had to keep counting his money. And the other thing too, is you're like, I want Jerry Reinsdorf to have this on his resume. Okay, he'll he'll take that to his deathbed, I guess. But his deathbed ain't that far away. Like you're going to be a fan the rest of your life. So you're going to have to wear this a lot longer with jokesters like me continuing to remind you of this. Reinsdorf will be dead and gone. And I've always said this, like owners, players come and go coaches come and go even owners come and go fans are forever. So you're asking for something you're you're you're like sideways rooting for something that now you're going to have to wear as a fan the rest of your life. And you might try to be apple plexic about it right now and ignore it. But there'll come days where you get continually reminded of it, like lions fans on their own 16 season like you're always going to wear that. And so, you know, worst team in baseball history, certainly then the newest low in the history of Chicago sports. Now, Mikey, Dante, y'all never got off the boat. Y'all stayed there like strong soldiers. Mikey, I'm going to give you the floor. How do you feel right now? Hold on. I did get off the boat. I made a lot of money fading down and taking anytime Chris flexion is pitching to key to silence pitching. I made a lot of money. Okay, we're good. But you know, for me, like I said, I just I love baseball, whether it's good baseball, bad baseball, I love baseball. That's my number one sport. So I would tune in from time to time. Like I think the only positive that came out of this year for the White Sox was obviously the emergence of Garrett Crochet as a starter. You're talking about somebody that we all question when the press release came out like two days before opening day that Garrett Crochet would be the opening day starter. But then for him to end up, you know, doing what he did coming off a Tommy John representing, you know, the AL and the White Sox, you know, as an all star, you know, that wasn't a sympathy. Everybody gets in like, no, like there was legitimate discussion about him starting that game, you know, going into the whole start game. It's not a fucking start crazy down my block. But yeah, you know, I was living on South Beach for too long. I forgot what it was like. But you know, it's it's just a ship product. Obviously, you know, I agree with both of you. They just really wanted Jerry to wear this more than the team. But I won't even speak on this year. I just look at the outlook. This team is not winning 75 games, 80 games for at least five years. The cupboard is bare. They really have zero position players of note to look forward to. Luis Robert more than likely will be traded. Garrett Crochet will be traded. Coast of Montgomery. Well, forging ahead together drives Colorado's pioneering spirit. At Chevron, we employ our neighbors to deliver the energy needed as the state's largest oil and natural gas producer. That's energy and progress. Visit Colorado dot chevron.com. Welcome to the ghost bunny podcast. I'm your host, Bridget Marcourt. Throughout my life, I have made it my goal to explore haunted locations in an attempt to justify to myself the existence of ghosts. I want to use this podcast as an opportunity to chat with people about their paranormal experiences, explore haunted locations that I've always dreamed of going to and revisiting legendary locations with a new perspective, all while infusing these explorations with expert commentary and insight from industry professionals. And don't forget to subscribe to those bunny podcasts. Eventually come up, but he doesn't, you know, he didn't really take off as we all thought, you know, he didn't even garner, you know, a September call up this year. So I really don't see anything to be positive within the next five years with this White Sox. Obviously, then the pitching that they do have. But, you know, it was total bullshit. You know, my mom's been a season ticket holder for a while. I told her last year, like, dead that shit, save money, use it to take trips. I have no intention of going to a gang. And this year, you know, I actually didn't go to any White Sox games, but I will switch over to the Cubs side because somebody here said, if council was our manager in 2023, I don't know, I say 10 or 12 more wins. That is a mister. Hey, Alex, we see you. Alex, you know, you know, with the 2023 Chicago Cubs roster, do you know what the Chicago 2023 Cubs record was? They were 73 and 70. Do you know what the 2024 Chicago Cubs record was? 83 and 70. It's not over there. Yes, you have beautiful amenities outside the ballpark. And the milk walking around the stadium is fucking exquisite. But that is it. Dan's been sponsored. A fucking bum, you know, like, it's not that much rider over there. The Milwaukee Brewers are doing everything better than you and spending half of the money. That's got us up. We White Sox, we already know Jerry's not going to pay money. Rice Harper was on hands and knees begging to come to Chicago, whether it was the Cubs or the White Sox. No, Kyle Swarber. No, Manny Machado. Nope. They went inside three of his cousins, never the actual player. We have actual, like, realistic view points to our organization because we see him do it with both the Bulls and the White Sox. Cubs fans, absolutely unrealistic. This is the same, the same group of people that sit in the stands and fucking go crazy when the ball's hitting the air. And it's a pop up to the fucking second baseman. Not everything's a home run. So just for me, welcome to hell with us. It's not the Brewers have their leverage. The Brewers have Willie Adonis. He's having a magnificent year. He'll probably be top six and NL MVP voting. He's getting paid 10 million dollars this year. And you know what's going to happen? The Brewers are going to let him walk and they'll find another shortstop to replace him. And they will get that production out of their guys. The more than likely win the NL central next year when they get Brandon Woodruff back. And the Cubs will still be stuck with days we swan some hundred seventy five million dollars and without a closer. So enjoy Craig Council. That's all I got to say. I got scared when he was reading that tweet. I was like, oh, yeah, I didn't. Alex Totally. I would have never overhyped my team because I never do that in the season. Never. I've never been known to do that. So whatever. Yes, I honestly, the Cubs for a certain point were just as frustrating as the White Sox were, even though the White Sox were the worst team. But the Cubs were much more frustrating for a much different reason. It was like Groundhog Day. Every day they were losing the exact same way and they were just completely pitiful. So I last year I certainly had delusions that they could sign big ticket people like Shohei Otani. That was completely moronic for me to even entertain in my stupid, hopeless brain of mine. This year, I will not be doing the same for the dreams of Juan Soto. So I will sit this off season out and hope for the best. So I hope you're happy we're just as beaten down on the North side right now as you guys are. But it's a different kind of struggle on the North side for sure. This is why we go. This is why we go bat shaped crazy from September, January with the bears. Save us. Save us. We need unity. But they don't. But they don't. We started attacking other. We started tagging each other even when they start winning. I don't know. Me and Scott almost got into yesterday. Talk about just the field. I'm like, yo, Scott has PTSD. All we are doing is sharing the stats of the day. Mike is an asshole. You've been up for a minute. Funny. Caleb, we was literally right in front of me and I'm like, man, what are you talking about? The last time Chicago got along was clubbed up. That season brought everybody together because that was a vibe. That was the most contagious vibe we've had in a while at the city. So we're not quite there yet with the bears. But maybe once they start really hitting their stride, we'll start finding those vibes again. And just when you think you got in the state, then you come lines up ball steps up. We know I think I can play open at night. Like it never ends in 11. But Dante called us out. Then we're gonna we're gonna wrap this up. Oh, yeah. I just want to say if you're a white Sox fan to prepare to run this back next year, there's gonna be another 100 lost season. The team is, but it is. Like you said, if it weren't a large market like Chicago, I think we will be looking at a John Fisher situation. I think the league won't let him leave Chicago. So we're just literally just stuck in this rut and you have to pray that they draft somebody that's good. But even with that, we know how their talent development has been. So I mean, there's no reason to have hope as much as we've tried to be optimistic. You think about that, the core of the last rebuild, half of them aren't on the MLB roster anymore. So it's literally half of them. Like they aren't on a roster anymore. So it's fucking insane. So, I mean, when you talk about the white Sox, it's just, you know, all the guys, you don't childhood memories of Frank Thomas and Ray Durham and Albert Bell are the boys. But other than that, bro, you just hold on to old five. But that's all I've got. If you the Cubs, if I was a Cubs fan, I would be pissed off because the Cubs have everything you need to be a large market successful ball club. And they teased you with that first run and to get, you know, finally get over this home, you rebuild Wrigleyville, which is already, you know, and I'm a Sox fan. I tell people all the time, you want to go have a really good time, go to Wrigleyville. Like, it's great. It's a beautiful, beautiful place to watch a baseball game. Having that, you have free agents who want to come play here. And you're like, no, we're going to just try to go with these prospects. Like it just, it's just, it's extremely frustrating. Then you pay that type of money for Craig Council, of manager. No, bro, no, bro. I told you all when he first, when he first did that, that was some bullshit. So they could sit here and say what we try, you know, we got a manager to get the most out of our young talent. Like, no, bro, spend the money. It's okay. You have the money. Matt Chapman just had a four-war season and you could have slit him to third base. You know, it was an affordable contract. There was plenty of moves they could have made outside of the big moves. So, you know, this, I'll say this is going to be interesting. You got Peter Lonzo coming up. You got guys out there, you know, outside of the sodos that are going to get money and are, you know, should be on the club's list. But I highly doubt it. So we don't see it. You know what, you know what, when you got, if you get to the 50 win threshold, then you can start worrying about anybody else in the major league case. All right, I've had enough. I've had enough. I tried to play nice enough. Win 50 games, then you're allowed to talk about other teams again. You're lucky. You even got the 40. Very, very, very good. Yeah. Bragg, this is always great to help out with you, my bro. Let them know what they can get in tune with you. And everything y'all got going on, CSGO. And of course, you're over it. Yeah. You want to see excessive Taco Bell tweets, follow me on Twitter at G Bragg's Jr. 23 as I eat through my stress of my sports teams that I room for. Other than that, yeah, we're on CHGO sports, CHGO Bears every single day, pregame and post game, doing some shows with Lance Briggs and Alex Brown. Now they just joined our team as well. That's certainly an honor. You know, I know for all of us, that's those are the core guys that we grew up watching. And now they're hanging out next to us as co-workers in Lance Briggs drives me insane every single week, trying to get him ready to do a goddamn show. So it's great. No, I love those guys and they're hilarious and high energy. So, yeah, make sure you're checking us out on CHGO Bears and CHGO sports. And, you know, it'll be a fun ride. We're going to be in London. So I make sure you guys make sure we link up when you guys are in London too. We'll have to find wherever you guys are. You guys come by our scene. You know, you're always welcome. You get my full support for everything you guys are doing over here. Appreciate you guys having me on and keep up the grind. Hopefully we get a fun season where they're in playoff contention in November and December and let Caleb Williams play in some truly meaningful games. I will definitely be around in London. If it is not a Bears practice that I got to do, I will be enjoying myself. So I am thoroughly looking forward to that, man. Bragg's definitely good to holla at you. When we come back, we'll take a quick one minute break. We'll be back for hour two. We all start with overreaction Monday as we get into everything having a week four in the NFL. And then we've actually got baseball talk. Mikey Donte, Courtney, going to leave the charge on our MLB wild car preview. We'll be right back. [Music] [Music] [Music] Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. Hour two here on I'm not going to hold you once again. Shout out to our guy, Greg Bragg's joining for joining us, getting all the local talk out the way. But now we're here to talk about teams that are not the Chicago Bears, man. It is week four recap. This is week two of our new segment overreaction Monday. Mikey weren't here last week when we did this. It got rave reviews. It was quite hilarious. One of the funniest moments of the show happened during this segment last week. So we are here for overreaction Monday. Basically, we just say anything that you want to overreact about for this week in or just the season in general for what you've based off what you've seen this week. Mikey, you want to go? Should I go first? Who wants to go first? Don't let me know. Okay, I got a couple overreactions here. Number one, I think as we said on this show last Friday when we did our week four picks was the Browns better not lose to the Las Vegas Raiders. Yeah, you did. They did lose to Gardner Menchoo and the Las Vegas Raiders. The Las Vegas Raiders team without Max Crosby, without to find the Addams and they lost. My old reaction is, and it might not be overreaction at this point. My old reaction is the Shawn Watson ain't going to make it to the rest of the season. I think they're going to find and out in that contract and get rid of that nigga this season. They all released the tapes, released the tapes. They're going to find a way to get out of that contract and it's going to be full on Jamo Jamison Winston for the rest of it. Because you look at it, it's not even just the Shawn Watson being a huff type thing. This is the team that's supposed to go to the playoffs, supposed to make a run. This is a team last year that made it to the playoffs and made it because Joe Flacco, but they've got to figure out a way to get this solved. And this quarterback keeps playing this bad and you're losing very vulnerable games. They've already been talks them find a way to get out of it. They're going to really find a way to get out of it as well. My other overreaction and it kind of goes to Orlando said that Jets think I definitely think that Aaron Rodgers and the Jets are not only going to miss the playoffs. I don't think they're going to win double-digit games. Like this offense looks terrible. Like it only looks somewhat okay against the Patriots. And you go out there and look what happened yesterday. I don't even think both nicks threw for a hundred yards and they still lost that game at home. It's not like this Broncos defense, 2015 Broncos defense. Bob Miller coming out coming out there under that door. You know, the Danny Trevathan, you know, is it coming out that door? Like it's looking like it's a regular team. And Robles a lot is 100% about to be fired. And my final reaction, I hate to say this, it pains me so much to say this. But Dante was right and I'm going to take it even further. I think the Minnesota Vikings have a great chance to win the NFC. I really, really think they do the way they're playing. They completely sluddered out the Packers last night. I don't care what the final score said. When you up that many points stuff happens, we just get your leg off the hand off the steering wheel. They look great. Kevin O'Connell, I was, you know, preaching a good word of him this offseason, one of the best coaches in the sport. He said something himself last week that was so spot on. Organizations failed young quarterbacks, more than young quarterbacks for organizations. We forget that Sam Donald was younger than Joe Burrow. Like he's not somebody who's just visually better than he's been a lead 10 years. No, he's still young and he's playing so well. The schemes and the defense at that, I mean, schemes in the end, the way that defense is playing, Brian Flores is going over the door. Yeah, Jordan Addison, Aaron Jones looking good. And of course, maybe the best receiver in football jets, Justin Jefferson. This looks like a team. I believe has a good chance to win the NFC, man. Who wants to go next? I'm going next because mine is real quick because it is based off what you just said. This is one of those future bets. We're going to come back to this in a while, but the 49ers are going to regret not keeping Sam Donald. I said that when he got his opportunity out there, talent wise, we already know he's better than Brock Purdy. And this is not me trying to shit on Brock Purdy. But I think when, as you see him getting coached up, which he was doing with Cal Shanahan, I think this is a quarterback. Like we said, bro, he has all the talent in the world. He can make any throw. And some of the throws he was making yesterday. That's when I that was going to be my original hot take is like, overreaction, like, no, they're going to win a division, right? I don't see a team in our division beating Minnesota right now the way that they plan. Obviously this early, but not the way Sam Donald's throwing a ball the way they can move the ball the way like you said, Justin Jefferson is the best receiver in football. That defense has been able to do some pretty amazing things. Kind of it's funny watching the scheme and watching Brian Flores and the way he does things because like it'll look like he's blitzing everybody and they drop back in the cover too. You see, uh, they were games where I think he blitzes. He does have the highest percentage in the league. I forgot what the percentage is, but it's up there. And so seeing everything they do with that scheme, uh, that's tough to score on, it's going to be a very, very difficult time anytime you have to go into that building. And, um, and they, and we know they can play anywhere. So I, I'm with you, bro. I think when we come back to this, Sam Don is going to be one of those guys where he has a career revival and they're like, damn, we probably should have kept bro. Bang, hit us with your overreaction. The Minnesota Vikings are going to win the NFC North. That is, that is my overreaction right there. I think that based off of what I saw, um, for the majority of that game that I was watching on Red Zone, they have the defense and they have the right things going on in the offense that lets me know that they're going to win that division. They're going to beat Detroit when they play them. They might beat Green Bay one more time since they got to play them at home, but the Minnesota Vikings, the team that we thought was going to finish last is going to finish first. Mike, you the floor is yours. So my biggest overreaction, the Baltimore Ravens will finish the number one seed in the AFC and they will have home field throughout. Um, I know that's, that's a lot of coffee with the Chiefs being four and all right now on the Ravens being two and two. But I think the version that we saw of the Baltimore Ravens last night leaning on the run game, utilizing both facts. I know that Thunder and lightning, Derek Henry, uh, Justice Hill out of the backfield, you know, being able to receive. And then Lamar, you know, Lamar was accurate yesterday. His offensive line gave him time and he was able to make throws down field. I think that they go on a nice run here. They got Cincinnati coming up. I haven't been beating the Bengals. They got the commanders. They're going to bring the commanders back down. Tampa Bay will be tough because you know how I am about teams traveling down to Florida. Um, you know, in the fall time and still extremely humid out there. But I think that they are going to go on a run because after that, they got the Browns, Broncos, Bengals again, Steelers, Chargers. I just think that by this point, they're going to go ahead and over, uh, overtake the Chiefs. I think that we're going to be looking at a team that come November. They're looking at eight and two, like those two losses in the first week one and week two are the only blemishes that they have going deep on, uh, into into the winter time. So I have the Baltimore Ravens being the number one seed in the AFC. Yeah, I felt, I mean, I had this later on, on the running, but I guess it's just perfect to talk about this now since you kind of gave me the love for, uh, for the Baltimore game. We talk about that. Uh, the Baltimore Ravens, uh, last night, uh, were able to get a nice blow. I was just like blow off victory. I guess you would call it, uh, thirty five to ten thirty five times. Yeah, it's your biscuit time with eight minutes. Oh, sure, sure. Biscuit did come. I did tweet that. I said, uh, it's time to get ready for Monday, ladies and gentlemen, if Mitchell, David, your business coming out. Thirty five to ten last night. Well, no one thing that kind of stood out to me was just how fast that, uh, Derrick Henry still is like, I, what it, what it toasted sale Friday, he was on the east. I wanted to see what's gonna happen when, uh, Derrick Henry run up when, when, when, when Mar Hamlin tries to run up on Derrick Henry, well, Nick, we saw it. Business decisions were made. Business decisions were made last night in this victory. Uh, like I said, Lamar Jackson was efficient. Thirteen of 18, 156 yards passing two touchdowns. Derrick Henry almost had 200 yards on the crown of 24. That's old school football right there. Old school football, 24 carries, uh, one touchdown. I, I think the thing that took, I took from this more than the actual, uh, you know, uh, score was, yeah, the bills might be knocked down a little bit back to reality. You know, they had those nice three wins, but they were able to, you know, when you come to, when you go up a class, you all get to heavyweight. Days are a little different. I want to, I'm going to go back to the end of the second, according to, as joined this year, I wanted, according to, uh, overreaction Monday, our first ball, you're not in tune, follow, according 1-100, probably, but according how you feel? Uh, it's still hard to tell in Texas. It is not full. It's not full, but I'm doing okay. Happy to be here, guys. Good to see you all. Good to see you. It's always hot in Texas. When I was there two coupleies ago, it was blazing and the humidity was ridiculous. But, um, we gave our overreaction from this past Monday. I didn't want you to not have yours. Was you, what's your overreaction that you have from these week four games? Uh, yeah, the Saints are fucking cooked. It was a good run. It was a good two week run. That was, those were special times, but they are so fucking cooked. Just give me, give me Spencer Radler right now. Cause I'm ready for it. Let's just call it. Before we get into it, let's just call it. Yeah, you're ready for the Spencer Radler era. Being ready, clear, but Derek Carr, happy fool. He had me fooled for two weeks. Now, is it Derek Carr or is it, is it has the play calling ownership? I really haven't had a chance to actually sit down and watch the Saints. I'm, I'm putting it on Derek Carr. I'm sorry. Okay. Hey, somebody's got to fall in the sword and it is him. No touch on this and it's that like nasty. That's, that's just nasty work. This is nasty work. And I know a doctor, we have the game yesterday. Yeah, I was. I was the vibes. You see, it was, it was actually a great game. I did not see a fight. Uh, live and up close. There were a couple fights though that did happen. Uh, but like you, as usual, which is weird, it be five good fans fighting each other. And you know, and they want yesterday. So that was kind of great. But it was a great game. That the Saints are done. Like Ava Camara, I know it's, uh, you know, you love the rivalry, but playing with broke ribs. It's a long season, brother. You should have, you know, probably set this right now. Yeah. So we're going to see how that affects him in the long run, but I mean, I agree with Courtney, the Saints are, the Saints are out of it. This is going to be a two team race in the division. Cause I think the games with the families have lost it. If Kirk Cuckens can actually move, like once he's gets, like gets comfortable, cause like a lot of the plays, it's either sitting duck, like he can't bootleg, he can't roll out. He can't that limits the office. So if Kurt, you know, gets comfortable back there and get a little more mobile starts to finally, you know, feel more comfortable. Uh, I think the problems can still be a dangerous team. Like cowpits is fucking horrible, but yeah, I was about to say it might be kind of town and put the cowpits thing a bit, but Mooney's nice though. Mooney was a nice addition for him and Drake Monday and they've really been doing anything. So it's going to be a two team race. It's going to be a good, uh, NFC South would be good, but the Saints won't be involved in that. And those two teams actually play, I'm thinking about this week. There's not football Falcons in Buccaneers, but back to Ravens bills. I think what I was saying about the, about the bills was, you know, when they playing a different weight class, I think the thing that stood out to me was anything wasn't Josh Allen's play by Josh Allen wasn't bad. We wasn't good in 16 to 29, you know, 180 yards past and no touchdown, no fix. Um, but it was the defense for the Ravens. Like we always talk about, you know, there's not a lot of no name receivers on the bills. You know, they got that rookie key on Coleman, even though he had a touchdown, uh, this non-touchdown, uh, had a good game. Uh, Key on Coleman, um, had a nice 51, the 51 yard. It was like a deep, a deep ball. He called us really good catch, but he also dropped one too. But you know, that's rookie stuff, but it was just a defense of the Ravens that kind of stood out to me because they were locking those wide receivers up. It's not like, you know, Josh Allen didn't have time throw yet. Time throwers. This was nobody open. So I'm not going to fully get off the bills bandwagon, but the Ravens are in a different class. And we set up here two weeks ago, we did all who should be more, be more worried thing about the Ravens of the bill or the Bengals. It's obvious that the Ravens are getting it together. They're already there two or two, um, right now. And it feels like they're actually kind of established and a little bit more of their identity and realizing that, yo, you've got Derek Henry use him. I can't wait for next week's game. That's going to be a big game in Baltimore against Jayden Daniels and the commanders. That's going to be good. But I really feel like the Ravens kind of got in the form and kind of started playing out the team that we expect them to play. They're going to take that loss of the Chiefs and they're going to take that terrible loss of the Raiders, put it behind them and kind of go on. They got to tell schedule. It's not, you know, next two games are real tough, but I feel like they're going to do the right, right direction. According, what did you see from the Ravens last night? And, you know, I think you said that they were going to be fine. What did you like to juice off on last night in that game? Honestly, again, my biggest takeaway was mostly about a Derek Henry and just watching how, how well he's fit into that offense from Baltimore. And like I said it before, I know Jerry Jones has to be just fucking kicking himself, watching that man go off for them right now. It's got to be. Go to Mike. Well, Mike, you already talked about that. Mike, you already talked about the Ravens, but bang, go ahead. Man, boy, when you look at the team that the Ravens have, I'm not there like Mike years. I'm not there yet. But man, if they put it together in the play, in the playoffs, that might be a team that can knock off Kansas City or anybody else. If, if and when they get the front game on a full till, because even though Gary went off through yesterday, there was a struggle for these first couple of weeks on how they was using him. And then you get to the Dallas game, you get this one. So if they could get this on full till, that office on full till, because it's still a little, if you're around Mark Andrews, he dropped a ball yesterday. Still, when it comes to Scott in his black quarterback's thing. Okay, I know. I know this is coming. If Lamar Jackson can, can erase a lot of those issues that he has in the, in the postseason, this is a team that really, truly can win the Super Bowl. So, uh, Dante, go ahead. Yeah, man. I mean, the Ravens have been one of the most consistent franchises, you know, of our adult lives, you know, they have very well put together team. And I agree, you know, it's just, we know what Lamar is going to do. We know what that defense is going to do. It's just a matter of the matchups when it comes to playoff time. I think just as a team, it's always going to be in contention. So, um, as they just, like I said, I wasn't really concerned with them out the gate. I know everybody picked them. I picked the, the Bengals, but I think with long as you got Lamar Jackson keeping him healthy, you know, that was a one issue that they had last season. And I think even, you know, some of that had to do with the whole contract and everything. So that's why, but keeping them healthy, keeping them upright, making sure everything's solid on their offensive line. Uh, I think they can go a long way. And now this is a team that, you know, will contend for the Super Bowl. Uh, next topic, man, I just, this might actually kind of go a little bit over the overreaction Monday and a little bit. The Kansas City Chiefs. Kansas City Chiefs, uh, they did win last night. Got a nice whirlwind, uh, against the, uh, the Chargers, even though they lost, I've been actually kind of impressed with the way that Harbaugh's coached them up. I think they've been, they were pretty competitive. Chiefs only won 17 to 10, but you got Rashid, uh, Rashid Rice. It looked like he's going to have a 20, you know, hasn't got a hundred percent confirmed, but you're dealing with that. You already have the injuries to a Hollywood Brown. You already got the injuries. Isaiah Pacheco. My take is this. I, I'm a little concerned about the Chiefs despite the fact that they are for an order that a defendant champions, you know, all they want to do is get to the playoffs and they'll give themselves a fighting chance, but you're seeing it to me that weapons go down. You know, and it's the point where Pat ain't been looking like Pat and I'm not going to do the Twitter thing and say, oh, he's feeling give him the same. Should you give Jayla Hurts? No, no, no, no, you're not. He's Patrick Hall. If anybody deserves a pass, it's Patrick Hall. He ain't been playing like Pat. He do a couple VLTs out there. Even though a couple VLTs in general, this season, and I feel like long term, I think the season will be fine. There wasn't a division with no problem, but the injuries kind of concern me when it comes to the playoffs, because they don't know that this is a torn ACL rice is out for the year. Now, you got two of your main offensive weapons out for the random year, and then I said, for Checo, he might be out for the rest of the year. They don't know 100% how long he's going to be out. That's a problem, especially you got Travis Kelsey, who's doing more, he's doing peacock movies and instead of actually dominating the field, I think he's watched. That's a problem that I see going on in my own reaction is that they might be looking at a wild car to exit. If they can't find a way to get this together on the side note, if you are watching baseball, we're going to talk about baseball in just a minute. The Braves just put two more runs up there, three of them on the Mets in the top of the seventh inning. We'll be talking about baseball in just a minute. Mikey, what do you think about the Chiefs? Am I writing my concerns or do you think they're going to be out? No, I think you're writing your concerns. I think there's only so long that no matter who the quarterback is, that a team could continue to take these type of hits on one side of the ball. I know Andy Reed is probably one of the greatest offensive minds that this league has seen and Patrick is on a trajectory to be probably the greatest quarterback ever. But when you lose Hollywood Brown, he never really got him in the first place, but you lose him and you lose Rashi Rides, who was making, he was making strides of proving that he is that wide receiver that they took at the end of the first round and being that number one wide receiver for them, we lose Pacheco. They're going to have to make a trade out there. They're going to have to do something. They're going to have to get creative because it does seem a little bit, it seems like it's an uphill battle for them to kind of score points lately. My thing is when it comes down to it, when it comes down to a play needing to be made, they always find a way. And that's just championship habits. That's having the right guys on the team, having game records on both sides in my homes and Chris Jones. But offensively, the outlook for this team is looking bleak because I won't say Travis Kelsey is washed because I still think that he can be something in the passing game. I just think this is what happens when tight ends get old. It's not a position where he's like he's a wide receiver and he's 195 pounds and he can still go out there and run routes. He's a bigger guy that's taking the beat. They've obviously played deep into the season, the last however many seasons since Pache's been there four years, five years. So I just think we're kind of seeing just kind of like that war of attrition on their bodies. I mean, if you look across to the NFC, you're kind of seeing the same thing with the San Francisco 49ers. Both teams obviously are battling severe injuries to keep guys and it's just so much wear and take them away. I mean, honestly, I just think that they're going to have to make a move because it is going to be a little bit of trouble for them to get creative to score points. Big shout out everybody watching us on my Instagram live right now. Shout out to the Instagram live watches. Ben, you said that you were taking the field this year. I'm pretty sure that you're more confident in your field prediction right now. No, I'm not. Okay. The only reason why I'm not is because of last year we saw this team in a similar situation, except they were dropping balls. Now bodies are dropping, right? But they always seem to get it right. I'm still picking the field, of course, but it's not making me feel better about taking the field. Nah, because it's still Patrick Mahomes just over there. They're full and old. They're undefeated right now. And they've been huffed. Imagine when they get it together. Now, can they get it together? It remains to be seen. I err on the side. Yes, they can. Because look what they have done. But yeah, no, it doesn't make me more comfortable in that now because at the end of the day, it's still a cheese, baby. Yeah, I think if there's anything that I'm not switching up on my, you know, I'm still going to roll with Pat. I'm getting Pat to break the trigger to actually see that nigga move. I'm going to keep picking him. But I said at the end of the beginning of the season that, you know, I wanted some trauma for them. And first, I said, they need to look like a scandal, like, you know, Travis Kelsey, cheats on Taylor Swift, for like a chief cheerleader, some shit like that. But this is doing this. This is this is good drama field information here for them to maybe get over that. I think when we have Patrick Mahomes, I think if you have Andy Reed, you have a team that's been there multiple times over these last five years, they know what it takes to get it done. So I'm not, I wouldn't say that I'm completely awful, but it wouldn't shock me. But because this is a reason, and this has never been done in the industry before, it's hard. It's extremely hard. And teams just usually don't get it done. So I think that this is anytime, last year they just weren't playing well, they didn't have the personnel. This year, they've got the personnel, they just hurt. So I think that's the biggest question for me when it comes to them, man. Let's go on to our next topic, the Washington Commanders. They are playing some great football right now. They're three and one. This had a big blowout dub over Calamari, Marvis Harrison, Jr. and the Arizona Cardinals last night, 42 to 14. That game was not close whatsoever. James Daniels had another amazing game, 26 for 30, 233 yards pass and one touchdown, one pick, the touchdown he did throw was a dart. And then a two point conversion afterwards was after the dart, the running game has really been going well. Cliff Kingsbury is really playing, really calling a good game. You got, they ran for 216 yards on the ground yesterday, and that result was the four touchdowns. And you can see the confidence rolling in Jayden games. You can see the team really rallying around. I love these post game videos when they give out the game ball. And then point gave the game ball to Cliff Kingsbury. Cliff Kingsbury winning in a place for a team that he was the head coach. A team that a lot of people to this day still blame him for that team not hitting anywhere. And to go out there and get that win was a big dove. I also love to see Doug Williams embracing Jayden Daniels. That's just contrary, I probably believe my I hate black quarterbacks bullshit. That was great to see them being embraced. And I'm a fan of what I've seen with Jayden Daniels. I think they had a clear cut favorite for the NFC East. The Cowboys stick, the Eagles stick, and the Giants are generationally bad. They can really make some more noise, not just in the NFC East, but in the NFC, Courtney, you were, you said that the in the preseason at the commanders were going to be an annoying team. Are they still an annoying team? Well, they more a good team to you now. Oh, no, I've I've seen it in Cliff Kingsbury. I apologize. I wasn't familiar with your game. It maybe you weren't the problem, but I'm just saying maybe you weren't the problem. Maybe it was that other maybe it was that quarterback in Arizona and we can get into that later. But yeah, I mean, the commanders are looking are looking for real. I'm curious. I think my week isn't until like week 14. Look at it right now. Yeah, they don't have a five week. That's what kind of worries me is that's a lot of games for a rookie quarterback. But I mean, hey, child, my fire. I'm excited. I'm all in on Jade games. So. Mikey, you said last night, you said, I don't care about the, you know, what you want to take away from Jaden and, you know, the, I guess the critiquing of them that he's been great and his team looks really, really good. Tell me what you're saying from the team in general, but most simply Jaden and what she liked that you said. Yeah, what I, what I said, basically, was just I'm not going to, you know, obviously I'm a various plan and I walk here look to be the best quarterback in this draft, but I'm not going to shit on what is being, you know, what is taking place. I went DC with, with Jayden Daniels. He looks extremely poised. That's the number one thing I'll say is he just looks poised in the pocket. He looks comfortable out there and his offensive coordinator is putting him in advantageous positions to utilize his skill sets. The design runs work. The quick, short passing game works. And you see that he really does kind of have just, it's, it's, he's got something special about him. I, you know, and there's, there's nothing, there's nothing I could do to take away from him. Dan Quinn, obviously, is a hell of a coach. That is a guy that's been so super cool. That's been into a guy that's man, some special players while he was with, you know, the Seattle Seahawks. Cliff Kingsbury now, I don't know Courtney if we can go all the way in saying it wasn't his father, Arizona. I just think some guys are better off in their natural position as being, you know, a great caller. I mean, being the GM of 53 men and having to do everything else that comes with being a head coach. But, you know, they don't have nearly the weapons that some other teams have. Terry MacLaurin is obviously very underrated. Brian Robinson, Jr. was great coming out of college. He had to set back, I, he had to set back with, you know, being shot, but obviously he's healthy now. But they just look good, you know, but I do want to see what this looks like against the better defensive units and what it looks like against teams that can really kind of go blow for them. I mean, we saw the Bengals go blow for blow for them. If it wasn't for them settling for a field goal instead of a touchdown, one drive in the Bengals, probably win that game. So I want to see what it looks like in a couple of weeks when they head over to Baltimore and they play the Ravens. I want to see what it looks like when they go up against Chicago Bears defense. And I want to see what it looks like when teams start to adjust with the fact that if you look at Jayden Daniel's success in the pocket and a lot of the things they're doing in the passing game, it's very mitch shabisky as of all on the right side of the field. So I want to see what it looks like when teams kind of take that away and kind of force him to throw to that left side of the hash and, you know, really force him to, you know, to play the quarterback position in ways that obviously the four previous teams have it. You know, I want to see what it looks like when it gets uncomfortable for them. Obviously, they've scored on, they had a ridiculous streak of like 16 straight possessions where they scored whether that being a field goal or a touch now. So I want to see what it looks like when they, you know, go through some adversity, but they are a good team. I won't say that they are the favorites to win the NFC ECI. I still think some of the veteran-laden teams and the Eagles and the Cowboys will find a way there, but they definitely add my attention. Don Taylor, you ready to give Dan point of love? That's a fine. No. I was trying not to cuss, bro, but no. One thing I will say though, Dan Quinn picks great coordinators. Dan Quinn is very good at picking coordinators and empowering him to do their jobs and do them well. That's why he has success in Atlanta for the time that he did have success. So I like what they're doing out there in DC. And I think a few people have said, I think banks had it as well. I think this is a team that you know, maybe they're just not as bad as we thought they were on paper, you know, coming into the season. We all expected them to really struggle and that hasn't been the case. I love what I've seen from Jake Daniels. I'm just him always looking comfortable, always looking in control of the moment that he never looks over when. So it's going to be interesting to see how they continue to develop this thing going on, going forward. I do think they need another receiver. You know, him and Gary Terry are starting to show some good chemistry, but you can always build on that and add more weapons. But no, I think the commanders are a very solid team. And you do have to tip your captain Dan Quinn, whether I wanted him to be the Bears coach or not. Bang, you used to live in the DC area. Have you heard from your friends out there in DC? Are they happy in my phone? I've never seen shots out to all of the homies from the DMV, especially my homie, Rick cheer, shouting you out specifically, because you had a bad week, because you lost to me at the John Fantasy football joint. We lost. And I was upset because any time he loses to me, he puts it in the chat to explain why he's pissed by losing to me. And I said, you should be focusing on Jay Dang. And as soon as I put that, the mood change, everybody was like, yeah, you're right. They are happy. They have not seen, they have not been this hopeful in the quarterback position since RG three. And for what they tell me, they will still look iffy about that. So you could go back years, fam. It has been years since they felt like they have their guy. And they're excited. You thought we was excited during the draft? No, they are they are ecstatic. There's a number of ways that I could spend this that might be derogatory. So I'll just say that they're static. But I also picked the Washington commanders to be my surprise team in the NFC this year. So I'm not really surprised at what's going on as a team and as a record. I am shocked to surprise at how efficient Jay Jalen Daniels has been. He's been efficient as shit. And the fact that they've barely punted this year, dress way. So for y'all to understand, dress way has probably been the best player on the commanders for a number of years now. That's the pun of y'all. He ain't planned. He's he's chilling. Got a nice little contract and he's sitting on the sidelines because the office is out there killing it. So not surprised at the record. I am surprised to how efficient the quarterback is. But hey, the DMV is happy right now. I can't blame him. Shout out to the DMV. I really enjoyed that time I was in DC. I had a really good time out there, man. But bang, you can take your little 30 minute break because we're gonna talk to baseball. All right, man. I'll tell y'all that. He will be back when we wrap up the show to talk to college football. And then I'm gonna give him our take on a car of the town straight. But this is the time of year with my three co-hosts here. They really shine. They they have amazing baseball mine. I think I know enough. These three make me know sound like I don't know 10 long time about anything baseball and I've watched baseball for a long time. That's how through these how great these three are. So as we're getting ready to watch this, the wild car round begins tomorrow afternoon. I think it's 232 Eastern time for the first playoff game. We're going to go through the four playoff series and looks like Atlanta is three outs away from clinching their playoff spot. Who would they be facing if they would happen right now though? I said so. I said when we saw for the first game, yeah, not happen. But let's it. Okay, here's the question. If the Mets somehow come back and win, who do the DBACs play or else the Braves hold it down? Who do they play? So if the score. But yeah, yeah. So if the score holds right now, then the Braves will be going to San Diego and the Mets will be going to Milwaukee. If the Mets were to win, then it's, you know, reverse Mets going to San Diego, DBACs going to Milwaukee. You know, if we'll just go with it, that this score holds at three, nothing. It looked like the Mets just want to get out of their healthy, you know, not, you know, Joey Lucas, he gave them six great innings, you know, only really gave up one run. Frank Holmes came in, you know, against the B squad lineup, but seven K's, one hit, six innings for the Braves. So what we would be looking at right now is the Mets playing tomorrow Milwaukee, mind you, they did just finish a three game series with them this weekend Friday, Saturday and Sunday, in which the Brewers took two of three from then on the season. The Brewers are five and one against the Mets this year. And then the Padres are four and three against the Braves. So both teams who have had, you know, the rest since Sunday evening do have the upper hand, they will be playing on one day of rest. They get to sleep on their beds and, you know, the Braves and the Mets are both coming off and playing the double headed today. You know, one in which, you know, Edwin Diaz went, he pitched yesterday and kind of what was not a meaningless game because you needed that win, but he pitched in a 5-0 and a 5-0 Mets win. Then he win and pitched the eighth and the ninth today. Pretty much got to say he's down for tomorrow. You know, so it's going to be interesting. And the Padres right now have actually released their wild card rotation. So they will be going with Michael King to start game one, Joe Musgrave for game two and Dylan Sees if necessary for game three. And this first round is best out of three, right? Best out of three. You want to say major breaking news. Baseball led to Pete Rose just died. Pete Rose is just. Oh, shit. The 80 years old TMZ just tweeted it out. And the Diamondbacks are out. And the Diamondbacks are out. The Braves just won. And that's a deep drive by Castellanos. The left field. That was a deep drive by Castellanos. Oh, man. First of all, R.I.P. Pete Rose, say what you want to say about the gambling that do was a legend, one of the greatest baseball players to ever play. Also, definitely much love and respect out to his family. I know that's kind of put a bottle in any Pete Rose. So I don't want to just move on. Well, look at that. We're going to baseball with any Pete Rose thoughts. I met Pete Rose in Vegas at an autograph signing. He was, I think, maybe a little sauce. I don't know if man was sober. I don't know if that was a thing or not, but I think he was a little, little, a character. He was a character. Not speaking negatively. The man was an absolute character. And we had a funny little exchange while he signed a picture. And it's up there somewhere. But R.I.P. seemed like a nice guy. Just, just, you know, I guess when you live that long and you see and done so much, I know people say that older people don't give a fuck, but he kind of epitomized for me as far as former players that I've met in my life as somebody who just truly didn't give a fuck. You got to respect that. Yeah. He reminded me of that old guard, the old guard of baseball, where you envision players smoking a heater and the dugout, drinking beers in between games, you know, kind of being up all night. Obviously, we know about the gambling. But, you know, we'll just keep it just the outfield. You know, he was a machine. He was a hell of a baseball player, a hell of a hitter. You know, I personally felt they should have been like him into the Hall of Fame. And I always hate when players pass before kind of getting that honor. I know that baseball is the one sport where, you know, the commissioners kind of uphold what previous commissioners before them put into legislation. And they're very old guard. But yeah, you know, rest in peace to him, you know, he lived a hell of a life, you know, and if anybody hasn't seen it, check out the documentary on HBO. He is one, he was, you know, one delusional motherfucker. He was crazy. He was, you know, he was straight up like he was a crazy motherfucker. So rest in peace to him. You know, Yeah, no, he said pathological, a lot of things. But I mean, in terms of playing baseball, he was amazing. I thought it was hilarious in that documentary. How much Johnny Bench really does not like that, man. Oh, like he does not like that, man. But a loss for the baseball community, I agree. It sucks that he didn't get reinstated to be, you know, eligible for the Hall of Fame. But at the same time, the Reds have honored him, the Phillies have honored him. I think he's in both teams, Hall of Fame and Ring of Honor, whatever they have. But at the end of the day, you know, you can't talk about the Cincinnati Reds and I think of P bros. That's just when you are that good at what you do, your legacy is cemented with the people. So, you know, like I said, complicated figure at the end of the day, but at the same time, one of the greatest have to do it. And so he'll definitely be a Mr. Neverguard. I think very well said by user. Very, very, very well said. I'm saying RPP rooms. That's really all I got. As I'm watching the field right now, I didn't want to say nothing. I didn't want to be insensitive. You know, this thing, but it's just why are these boys about to party? No, no, no. Hold on. Major League baseball mandated that no team, regardless who won game one or who won game two, the winner of that game, they were not allowed to celebrate. So in between that game, they weren't allowed to kind of go through whatever. And I think each scene, you play a hundred and sixty two of these things. It literally came down to game one sixty two. They deserve the right to party, but they better. The Braves got to be in Cindy. Yeah, I'm ready to play tomorrow. You do that. I'm going to trust me. That plane is going to be a good pick. That plane is already, that plane already gassed up, stopped and ready to go. I think they're going to do more just throwing a couple of beers around. They're not going to sit there and get slapped because they do got a game. They got to get to their right. I throw a couple beers and roll one up right quick. And you know, and both teams got ahead, you know, the Mets could have left this shit in the hotel in Milwaukee that they just left last night. Well, the Mets got the paper out. They got the playoffs. So they ain't finna get down. They got the plastic out. There's a couple things that, first of all, one, according to me, this thing about people that we got a lot as a person that that's why I'm glad Y'all can't achieve like this. Just to be clear, I googled it because I want us to get sued. Pete Rose was not sober. So yeah, he was definitely shocked when I met that man. He's lost. Okay. I mean, yeah, like, if people die, we still keep it a bane. Like, you know, like, they do only one shit. But anyway, but that was funny to me that I've never seen two parties going at one time after a game. Like, Oh, yeah, we've never seen that before. We're going this lock room. You're going here. So all four series is set. The Orioles will be hosting the Kent City Royals, the Astros will be hosting the Cardiac Detroit Tigers. Very happy, very, very happy to Jason Benetti. The Brewers will be hosting the New York Mets and the Padres will be hosting the Atlanta Braves. Let's start with the first series. We've got the Orioles and the Royals. The Royals had a really, really good season. They were leading that whole wildcard chase really for almost the entire season being the second team, you know, in, you know, their division really going well. They went 86 and 76 to win. The Orioles came in second in the AL East. They went 91 and 71. So they'll be hosting this series. Courtney, I'm gonna go to you first. Who do you got in this series and why? I mean, this is still one of those series that I feel like I change my answer every time I go back and look at it. I want to say it's the Orioles haven't been particularly hot as of late. And y'all know I have been saying from the beginning of the season that the Royals were my sleeper team and that if they got the opportunity to get in this position, that's a scary team to see in a three in a possible best of three series or not a best of three, excuse me, best of five, but you know, winner take three. That's a scary, scary rotation to see. Man, give me the Royals. Give me the Royals. I'm, give me the Royals this year. It's 2015, baby. Ah, Courtney, Courtney. I'm sorry. Let me break something down to you. When you have teams from the AO Central, you know, we have this benefit of called beating up on shitty teams. And the Kansas City Royals were 12 and one against the White Sox this year. And that pretty much bolstered their record. Like, I don't want to take anything away from them because they are a very good young team. I think it's one of those situations where it's a young team that's just not ready to take that next step yet. And they're coming up against a team in Baltimore that is ready to take that step. We got breaking news considering that we talking about baseball. According to TMC, N. L. B. Legend. Thank you. Oh my fucking god. You just did what you're doing in the group chat. I just came with the Facebook link in real time. I just felt kind of jealous because I was listening to y'all. I just wasn't listening too well because we had a whole 10 minute call. I was listening. I was listening. But I just wanted to jump in a bit and do what I normally do because I'm feeling jealous about how y'all talking about baseball and not a part of this conversation. That's the only time I could ever be a part of this shit. So I just want to do this shit to make everybody laugh but say my condolences to Pete Rose because I'm not going to be able to do it on this episode. So back to y'all. Thanks. Go ahead. No, I just think right now that Baltimore team is still very young. But I think they're ready to make that next step. I think this is the state where this is a way to make that statement, you know, stomp on another young team like, hey, you know, we see y'all doing what we did. But right now we're going to show you that it is really our time to take that next step. Who pitches game two for them? Who is it? I just bought them one. They haven't released it yet. It's going to be Corbin Burns. I think they were trying to get one right against school. Right, right, right. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, school boys with the Astros. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. It's going to be it's going to be co-ragons versus it's going to be co-ragons versus Corbin Burns in game one, game two. The growers will be throwing out Seth Lugo. The Orioles haven't announced who they're going to throw out yet. I think they would really like to win game two without having to throw Zach Efland. Because if they do that, then you set up your lineup where game one of the next round will be Efland, game one, and you go right back to Burns, game two. I don't want to, I know you've been busy at work for me. I don't want to bring you down a little bit, but the Orioles were seven and three their last 10, and they finished the last week, five and one, taking two from the Yankees beating up on the twins. The bats were hot. They were putting up about eight runs a game. How sad they're looking? I have no idea. All I know is Ryan Ohherd has been popping up on my phone every other day, hitting two on home runs, and Anthony, and Anthony Santander is a beast, but I'm going to ride with the Orioles on this one. I think the Royals, great season Bobby Wajunya has carried them, Salbi Perez, we've seen what they've been able to do offensively. But I just think that their pitching doesn't line up in a short series, first, this hop of a Baltimore Orioles team right now. I think Baltimore is exactly where they wanted to be after last year. If we're being frank, the Baltimore Orioles pissed down their leg last year against the Rangers. They had opportunities to win that series, and they did not. And that was their inexperience. That was their youth. There were some costly mistakes, Gunnar Henderson running, trying to steal second base when they didn't need him to steal second base, and being that out against the Rangers there. I think this year, they're exactly where they want to be. I think they will go ahead and take on this young Royals team. I don't think it'll necessarily be easy, but I do think that they end up beating the Royals. And then we'll see what they're made of going further. I don't like them advancing past this first round, because they just do not have the pitching. Obviously, Grace and Rodriguez with the lat injury being out dampers that rotation. They traded Kyle Stowers and Connor Norby for Trevor Rodgers. And Rodgers was immediately sent down after three starts because it just wasn't working. They don't have a back end closer. The DFA Craig Kimball last week before the end of the season after another blown slave, said, "I just don't like how their pitching lines up in what would be, you know, seven-game series, but I will take the Orioles in this first round." Shout out. We have a thousand people in the chat right now. Shout out to everybody watching for the baseball preview. Obviously, Mr. Joke, according to the chat. Yeah, Ben came in here on some, Ben came from the top row. I was jealous of them talking their baseball, and I wasn't going to be able to be involved, and how y'all had the Pete Rose conversation without me. At least I could talk about Pete Rose, like God damn. He thought he was breaking news. No, I knew I wasn't breaking news, though. I knew I wasn't breaking news. I'm like, damn, y'all could somebody could have texted me. He was like, though, you know, come join the Pete Rose conversation. You at least know him. Yeah, that's my bad. I didn't look down at the screen. I thought you wasn't even like this. Man, who can at least, you can at least join that one. You just watched the documentary, didn't you? Oh man, let's go to the second series, second AL series going on in a wildcard. That is the Houston Astros. These niggas have done it again. They have won the wildcard, appearance. Once again, they are, you know, going to be taking on the Detroit Tigers, who just a month ago didn't look like they were going to make the playoffs. They went on an incredible run. Three scuba, one of the pitching triple crown. He's been dominant. A-biting the choice, having a good time. Our guy, friend of the program, Chuck Ingle said on the show that he felt that the Tigers were going to make the playoffs, and it ended up making the playoffs. Yeah, Mike, I'm going to go to you first. What do you think about this, too? Do you think that the veteran experience of the Astros is going to be enough to win this series? Or do you like the Detroit? Honestly, I do like the Tigers just because of the advantage of throwing through on school game one. There's just something about the way AJ H manages a team, particularly this young team that doesn't have overwhelming star power. You know, this isn't the AJ H run team with our two-way bright men, you know, those guys back in the day. This is, you know, with what was my man's name, Michael Brantley. This is a team being led by Riley Greene, Matt Veerling, Spencer Torkelson, who they sent down to the minors, ASU, the number-former number-one overall pick, who they sent out to the minors for legitimately three-quarters of the season and called him back up. We don't have Harvey Baez manning shortstop right now, you know. Parker Meadows has come up and played great. Abaniaz is hitting. They're just finding a way, you know. They have since August 1st, the best overall team pitching ERA, 2.81 ERA to lead the minors, or to lead the majors. And I just think it's a massive advantage when you can throw somebody like to reach school game one against Fran Brevaldes because the pressure will then be on the Astros if they can go ahead and win with their eggs. AJ Hintz did come out and say today that it's to reach school pitch and tomorrow and pitching chaos the rest of the way. I think they might go with Reese Olsen game two and then possibly a bullpen game and game three, but that can get extremely tricky for the Astros because they just called up Tyler Horton, who was the number-one pitching prospect a couple weeks ago, lefty, throws gas. If you go ahead and use him in an opener to go and sit down, Kyle Tuckett, Jordan Alvarez, two times through the lineup, that can win you a game right there. So I'm going to stick with my pick. I had the Astros not making the playoffs this year. Obviously the Mariners shit down their legs. And that's on me, but I'm going to still going with the same energy. I don't think that this Astros team will find a way to just beat Destiny. You know, Gordon Alvarez is hurt right now. And today's the first day that he's actually going to try to get some swings in and kind of run on the field. So they hope to have him, you know, playing, but who knows there? So the pitching lines up pretty well for the Astros because you're looking at Frambour Valdez game one and you're looking at a combination of Hunter Brown and Kakuchi, who's been lights out for them since they traded for him from the Blue Jays. But I just think that this Tiger's team is going to find a way to stay in games and to just come through late. Uh, yeah, actually I made them a state too, about where the Astros won the division. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. They won their division and and they won the Seattle. Yeah. And they were four and two this year against the Tigers. But obviously that is before, you know, that's what it went around. Yeah. Mikey, I want to I want because I'm I'm with you because I think about what the Tigers have managed to piece together and make the postseason and AJ Hinch is a is a wizard and that bullpen is it's all of a bunch of guys that nobody really knows. But then you all like don't they kids are my eighties in that bullpen and he has he's got experience and I just man, the Astros are just fucking inevitable and like they've been to what seven straight LLCs are talking inevitable and similar to the Chiefs. Similar to the Chiefs, how we were talking about. This is not a year that they're overall like the best where, you know, where you can't think of the yips at certain points throughout the season too. I listen, I again, I'm trying to talk myself into the Tigers because obviously I've been high on school ball season, but man, the Astros are inevitable. The Astros. You know, maybe I'm just a hater, but I'm picking the Astros and this is why because I think the Astros are going to win game one. His last 16 starts from about there is just 10 and two with a two one, two one long DRA. I think I understand school ball has been lights out. He's been amazing triple crown. I talked about Michael, you mentioned that, you know, he's the first in a verlander in 2011. In 2011, Justin Verlander was like, it was fun watching him pitch and screw was been the same way all season. But I think again, like you said, that old veteran team, bro, they gonna come and remind you that, you know, this is where it gets a little tighter. The situations are a little different. We know Detroit is going to be excited. They happy to get in and they are, I bet they're seven and three and they last 10. But no, I'm gonna go with the team with the experience. I'm gonna go with the Astros. For what it's worth, though, I would like to see the tires in the dream world. But no, to Mikey's point, not even on, I don't want to sound like too much of a hated to Mikey's point. He's an amazing job managing that club, especially with that bullpen. Like you said, there's a bunch of no name guys and most people don't haven't heard of, but they really come in and shut shit down. And the way he uses them has been amazing. So to hear him, then they're like the fucking Joker say, well, it's just gonna be my ace and then pitching chaos. That's the guy I can trust him when he says that because I know he knows how to pull those strings. It makes the right moves. So it's gonna be, I think it'll be a good three game. I don't go to four, three games, but I think the Astros are gonna take game one and that'll propel them to win in the series. I think, I think both favorites here probably will win this series, the Orioles and the Astros, even though I have no AL central hate against these teams at the current moment. Bob Doo love watching Bobby Whit play baseball. I think he's a great young player. I think he's what he's done this year has been pretty impressive. I'm kind of with what Mikey said. I think the Orioles learned from their playoffs last year, learned the mistakes of being in the playoffs for the first time of years. And I think they're gonna take advantage of that. It's gonna be a rocket's crowd out there in Baltimore. I think they're ready. I think their rotation is ready. And I don't think the Royals are there yet. I think that they will be soon, but I think that the Orioles gonna be able to win this one as far as Astros and the Tigers, like you said, Courtney, like Orlando's in the chat, the Astros are inevitable. Well, every night in the bully, y'all getting knocked out. And I just, I believe one thing about baseball, baseball is kind of like hockey a little bit, kind of like NFL a little bit where is the hot team. You kind of got the autumn stats out the window, man. And I really like, I think they're a well coached team, well managed team. You got edge and edge going back to Houston. I think that's a good storyline. I like the road of the Tigers on and I'm going to take the Tigers in the upset. And I think I think they're winning. Scott, to your point, what you said, there's always just like that one kind of random hot team. There's always that one random hot pitcher, right? Like a couple of years ago, it was like Ryan Presley for the Astros. And I can't say random because obviously the guy has been, you know, in a position to win with the Astros for a while. Last year it was Josh Bors. Like, where the hell did that come from? I'm just curious to see who that guy is going to be this year and what team he's going to be on. I fear, I fear in my heart. I'd be screwing. No, if that he's on the Padres. Oh, I'm physically nauseous, because they got some dogs in that bullpen. And I'm afraid of the Padres of the Padres this postseason. Perfect. With the NL match up, so let's just go with the Padres. The Padres had a really good season. The Padres race for the second in the NL West, but they took the Dodgers up to that final, that final series, man. They finished 93 and 69. They will be playing the team that we just got done watching. That is the Atlanta Braves. Enough like the Atlanta Braves on their last leg here. I'm going to go to you, Courtney, because you said you were worried about, you know, who's a hot pitcher? Absolutely. Who should pick and what you think about this? Sadly, I do fear that the Padres are going to win this thing pretty handedly, actually. I don't think it's going to be, I don't think it's going to take more than three games. But no, the Padres scare me. I think that they could win the World Series, actually, and I need to admit that. That would be an amazing party over there in gas lamp. Oh my God. That is one of the most drunkest places I've ever been in my life when I want to say San Diego. I think it was three years ago. It was kind of like when I started letting people back in the games after the pandemic. And they've got, I don't know, I don't know if you say that. That's some great bars over there. There's this one right outside the ballpark. First time I in my life, you ever had a Miller High Life pony bottle, you know, the little baby bottles in Miller High Life? Yeah, the one outside the one outside the ballpark. That's the one they've finished. They'll take a little bit of the beer out. You put some apparatus in it, they flip it, and it's a Dr. Pepper shot. You took the whole thing. Don't ask me how many I had. Yeah, I have finished me and I found myself playing drunk. What's that shit, God? Don't mind, let's get not. I put the fucking pool. I was drunk playing pool and another establishment that night. That's how crazy it was. But Mikey, what you think about this series? I think the Padres are going to go ahead and handle business. I can see him here right now. I'm about to throw. You see, you gotta see that. I'm about to take them to win the World Series at plus 1200. I think they're built the right way. I think that they have started pitching. They have a bullpen with some flamethrowers. I think the lineup is well balanced. You got from Andos, Hattie's back. You got Mandy Machado. You got Jackson Merrill, who should be the N.L. Rookie of the Year. I know we love Paul's game, but it should be the everyday player. Boy, I just think that, he said I ain't going, but I do. You got to play everywhere. Oh my God, Mikey, where's this glove? You got to have a glove? What is it? Just for me, as we look at the two teams I played today, the Mets and the Braves, the Mets were able to escape out of this two day double header with only exhausting one arm and Taylor McGill. Didn't really fatigue much of their starters after the first game because they let people rest. They can go ahead and set up their lineup, their rotation the right way, whether you want to go Sabarino or Manaya, game one against the Brewers, and then maybe come back with Quintana for a game three if necessary, whereas the Braves are completely fucked. Like Dante said earlier, he kind of had a feeling something was wrong with Chris Sarah because he has a pitch in September 19th. He's missed his last three starts. It wasn't something about just trying to have him ready for today. They scratched him today. They said he had back fasted yesterday. Listen, somebody who's 35, Chris Sarah's older than me, when your back is fucked up, your back is fucked up. Now they want to throw him on a plane. Now you're going to throw him on a plane flying from Atlanta to the West Coast to then try to get him to not be able to piss him off, probably. Who knows. And now you're looking at Hughes. I can't say his last name, but they use the one, the other Spencer today. And they have you. What's his name? Shrelen Becker, Rohan Gardner. Shrelen Becker. Yeah, it's not like a nice German IPA. Get you a polish and a swelling becker. You're trying to bring Ian Anderson back out of the woodworks? Yeah, I see that. I mean, well, they're probably going to have to now because if Chris can't go, then there's no need to have him on the roster for this round. And you're going to need as many arms as you can, especially coming off of a double header. So I do like the Padres in this one. I like how they're lining up their rotation as well with Michael King going game one. And they're kind of keeping their ace in the hole delicacies, available for a game three. If not, he'll be ready to go game one. Don't forget, they also, if they do have to go three and they win, then they'll be starting game one against the Dodgers with you Daughers. So they have plenty of aces in the hole. Offensively, I think they'll have no problem. I've been saying it all year. This Braves team offensively is not the brave team of the last few years. So yeah, I'm going to ride with the Padres and I won. Chavez Ravine, Doc Rivers is insane. I mean, it's very crazy. That's a great angle. I told you I told them earlier when the season started, I said, I think Dave Roberts has one more year. Yeah, he gets one more. I think it's because Otani didn't pitch. There's a lot of pitching injury from that team. There's a lot. There's, there's gonna win the World Series. It's not. There's too many pitching injuries for this team to, for it to all fall on Dave Roberts. I could see if he made some issues, but like, let's go for 80% of their starting rotation is that right now is going to have a dude named Landon Knack and buddy beat his girl. So, you know, the one pitcher he did have fucked it up. We're getting to our favorites breakdown. We do the DSS. Don take what you what you got in this podcast, man. I hate the fact that Chris Sal is having back issues because he had an amazing season. Like he's probably going to end outside, you know, he was spectacular and really held this team together after you lose Spencer, after you lose a corner, you know, Austin Riley's been handed out of the lineup. So, it sucks, but they are running into the wrong team at the wrong time because I'm recording. I think the Padres are one of those teams that are really built to really go on the run. Like, you know, you could easily look up and see them in the NLCS and I wouldn't be shocked if they went to the World Series. So, I think this Padres team is really good. And of course, because God likes to punish me, I think I'm going to see Dylan Cease pitching in the World Series this year. Well, it wasn't match up that they go play the Dodgers, Dylan Cease starts and Michael Copac pitches a couple shutdown innings. We're going to be right away and full. We do this every playoff stuff. Like we win the list out every year, bro. And some breaking news right now, nobody died. But I thought we was going through today. It did come out. Snickers just said, Priscale is not expected to be available in the wild hearts. That's things. But but give me a game three, Ronaldo Lopez, Dylan Cease matchup. I hear that the White Sox lost set the record for the most losses. Give me that. I am going to go with one of my favorite players in baseball, Manuel Arturo Machado and the San Diego Padres. I think that crowd out there in San Diego is funny. That's probably that's the most fun ballpark I've ever been to. It's it. It is cracking up in there. That is an amazing baseball crowd. That's going to be lit. It's not going through games. They're going to clean, sweep these dudes. I like them. And I like, I think they got a chance to win it all just like Gordon said. Final series. And then we'll be, we're going to wrap this up. The Brewers who, despite the fact that they lost their highly prized manager, they came in and they just, they won their division. Anyway, one to N.L. Central 93 and 69. They will be hosting the hot New York Mets. We just saw one today. Big, big second half of the season for them. Puerto Rican legend, Francisco Lindor has been killing at a great home run today. I'm going to go for my yard. I see the hat. Are you rolling? Are you rolling with the with the Metro Palatins in the series? Do you think the Brewers going? Oh, man, I would love to go with the Mets. I said earlier in the season, kind of like around like late July, August, I said the Mets will be this year's Diamondbacks team of last year. But man, it's just something about, you know, it's something about the Brewers having the Mets number this year. Like I said, they went five and one against them. They don't have to travel. They didn't have to play a double-headed today. I mean, you get Devin Williams back and, you know, that Airbender in the back of the bullpen, they got Joel Payam's, you know, Jackson Churio. This was the year of Jackson. What's up with all the, what's up with all these guys? What's up with all these girls and their kids? Jackson. Is he Jackson Holiday, Jackson Merrill, Jackson Churio. But man, like, I really do want to go with the Mets. And I'll just, I will take them for the sake of, you know, Francisco Lindor outside of Otani is my favorite player in the game right now. He literally put the team always broken back today in that ninth inning. That was one of the best games that I've seen, not only this year, but in a very long time. And this is why you love baseball. This is why I always go back to baseball Scott. Even if the White Sox are bad, whatever, I will always love this sport because you play 162 games of, you know, throughout the year in game 161 and game 162 matter. So I'm going to ride with the Mets. I think they find a way. I like what I've seen out of Luis Severino of this year. I think he had a really good bounce back year. And let's just hope that they can take the momentum, you know, into Milwaukee up there. You know, I don't want nobody from Milwaukee winning shit. I hated when the Bucks, you know, won the championship. I don't want anybody from that state to do anything. Oh, yeah. I like your Milwaukee as young as. And then, yeah. Oh, you're not going to have to stop it. I'm a. That's it. No, no, no, I'll be honest. The other one, I know he's, you know, I'm not really, I'm not really a dang time fan, but I'm going to ride with the Mets. And, you know, it's going to be a really good series. I think that one is probably guaranteed to go probably free. Dante, what you got in this room? Oh, man, I'm going to go with the Brewers. I think I'm on the Brewers. It'll be too much for the Mets. The Mets have been on a great run. You know, it's a great story, especially after the season, because, you know, pretty much everybody pointed on the Mets this year. We all said, you know, you know, it's salary dumps, Cohen's trying to, you know, see what he has with his young guys. And then next year, they're going to spend some money trying to go get wine soda. Now you're in the situation where you can make yourself in a much more appealing destination for wine soda, if you can put together a playoff run. But, you know, I do think the Brewers are going to get it done. And I'm like, yeah, I don't like anything in Milwaukee related to state of Wisconsin. I do not like to step foot in it if I don't have to. But I think the shit that Wisconsin has is like, you know, thank you for blessing us with Covers. But that's it. Oh, that's from Wisconsin? Yeah, well, man. Okay, now that makes sense. That makes sense. But no, no, it is going to be funny though, to see them win this series without Craig Council, because, you know, everybody tried to give him so much. They tried to give him so much of the credit. And Pat Murphy did a hell of a job. And, like I said, they just found a way, you know, William Thomas will definitely be. And, you know, we'll see his name on a couple months when they go ahead and they, you know, when they give Otani that MVP award, we'll see that William Thomas' name will be pretty high up there. He had a hell of a year. But they just found a way they play baseball the right way. They have some speed. I know Sam Fridlick got hurt going into right field on a catch over the weekend, which was kind of, I know, I know I seen kind of like on Brewers Twitter and reading through some publications. A lot of people were upset that he was even out there because of the fact that they had, you know, wrapped up, you know, the NL Central and they were already, you know, going to be in the playoffs. But he says he's ready. Now we'll see if he actually is on the roster, but he's a speed guy. So he's really well in the outfield for them. And, you know, he could be at the table center. Courtney, take us home on the baseball. Yeah, I went to last time that the Brewers won a playoff series, like 2018, I want to say. I mean, if I'm wrong. Anyway, I do, I do got to ride with the Brewers. I don't want to, but I got to ride with the Brewers simply because the Mets are, I don't know, I told y'all that was a sneaky team preseason. I said, you know what, the Mets are sneaky, but I feel like the Bucks got to stop somewhere. And I think it's now. So I'm going to take the Brewers in the series. And that concludes our baseball coverage. Mike, even though you got to get up out of here, we're going to take a very quick last break. Then we're going to spend the last 20 minutes. Talk about a couple of big topics from this weekend at college football, and I'm going to give you all my take on coffee towns going to the New York Knicks, man, bang and be joining us right back. So of course, you follow Mikey at junior underscore. So leto, he'll be back on Friday. Mikey's weekend best ticket break last week, but he will be back for you guys. I'm pretty sure he's going to have some baseball best for y'all as well this weekend. Mikey, anything you want to say if we get you about here? Now, that's it going to get ready to watch some terrible football in this first game with the Titans and dolphins. And then, you know, we get a nice little, they got for two games this week, we get, you know, Gino, I really like this is snoop, hotly disrespect, and I won't tolerate it. Yes, we saw. I really like that ticket on my scholarship. I really like to see he said, I can get a scholarship. All right, Mikey, we're going to take a quick one minute break. And then we'll be right back. We're going to close this up a little bit of college football and we'll see you in the next one. Bye. So cool, so cool. [Music] And we are back. Bang is back. We're going to take these last 20 minutes. Going to take you right up to the actual Monday night football game that you niggas want to watch, not we'll let this versus whoever the backup quarterback is in Miami right now. I don't know if a skyla Thompson or a third runner or a third quarterback. All knows you are Miami sports fan, you better be happy that the U is back because these niggas stink. But let's just get into college football, you know, a crazy college football weekend. One of the best college football games I ever saw happen out there in Tuscalo. So you had the Alabama Crimson side going up against the Georgia Bulldogs who have been dominating these last couple years, one a couple championships. It was big game atmosphere college game. They was there. This was the first in this rivalry for their new head coach out there, Alabama, even though Nick Saban looked like he was up there in his head pointing out 28 problems that he saw even though they were up by multiple touchdowns. They brought Juski, Juski was out there with, you know, with everything. It was a big atmosphere. This game was crazy. The, you know, Alabama was blowing them out the water. They came. I mean, they came in Georgia came back, even took the lead, man. And, you know, just just in an amazing catch there at the end, that was an incredible game. According to, we know you're an Alabama fan, just take us through your emotions. Because in the group chat, you're confident that you start to lose. He's like, let's just listen, listen. That game had me absolutely stressed all by side. What an incredible game like for the sport. Like, if you want someone to get into college football, that's a game to show. Because, I mean, it's just was two incredibly talented teams where Georgia should could have given up very easily. But they did not. I will say Alabama's play calling got significantly more conservative. You know, after, I want to say, honestly, after the first quarter. So that was a little disappointing to see, just because I come from the Nick Saban School of Thought. Fuck that. Make their ass quick. Run it the fuck up. And especially against, you know, we saw Ole Miss go down that day. So you need some SEC teams to start taking bad losses. You know, as far as one lost teams that are going to get into the playoff, I highly doubt that Georgia has any concern now with it being expanded field of 12 teams. But man, that game had me absolutely stressed. I'm not going lie. I was a little lost. And by a little, I mean, I was very soft. So by by time the third quarter happened, I was in bed and ready to go to sleep. But I couldn't. The anxiety was was palpable. Hell of a game. Hell of a game. Even shout out to Carson Beck for getting at the fuck together in the second half. Because that that's shit out of parts. So he is not going for it. That man was seeing ghosts out there for the first quarter. Because never listen, I didn't, you want, you could say that you think that the game is going to go with surf. Oh, Alabama's going to beat the hell out. Never in my life did I predict that. Nobody did. Everybody thought it was going to be such a close game. So to go up there was a 30 to zero in the first quarter was just insane. It insane game. Definitely man. And Ryan Williams had one years old bro. I was doing a 17. I wasn't doing that. 17 years old. I was being an idiot. I saw a tweet. Somebody said Ryan Williams was doing this at 17. You know, I was doing a 17 being a bitch. That that was one of the funniest. Yeah, I was running out of that. He called the ball that spit he did should be illegal. Like it was. It's crazy. Yeah, I had a boat catches from that one bobble where you thought, oh, I'm like, oh, well, just I hope that doesn't end up being a pig. And then when he turned around and when they caught it, it just you can just see how much fun he's having out there, which is, it shows so in his age, he's 17 and having fun on the best part, the best part of all of this is after this amazing game, the nigga change is having to make big hole in the pit. Yeah, that's my, that's my kind of guy right there. That's my kind of player right there. I just whooped your ass and we're going to talk crazy after the game. So 17 years old, and we know, you know, quietly, we talk about other universities. It's a lot of wild receivers coming out of Bama. Like saying we can go back to Julio. Like it's a lot of wild receivers coming out of Bama. And I think this kid is in line to be one of their next ones. Bang, what'd you see on Saturday that stood out to you from this game? I, when I saw that stood out, was drugs. I thought this game was over. Hey, once halftime hit, I was like, ain't no way in hell. Georgia coming back from this. So I took me two gummies and next thing, you know, it's like 11 o'clock, I woke up and I was like, yeah, I thought I was tweaking. I thought some somebody was, was tweaking, somebody was lying, all of a sudden, I started seeing highlights from, um, from ESPN. I said, man, I think I just missed the greatest college football game of all time. You really did. That was a, that was like, I've seen, you know, I've watched a lot of Alabama games in my life. That's going in the memory as like, that's top two top three. Cause, cause here's the other reason, here's the other reason why I'll just like, this game is over. The other reason why this guy thought this game was over, cause it's the playoff. Like, okay, I could get this back. I just got my ass worked by Alabama, but we could get this back and we could be up in the playoff. So the fact that Georgia didn't give up Georgia, you know, Kirby Smart rallied the troops. And honestly, they should have won this game. Cause when you look at that play that the kid did, oh, that was, that was God. That was, that was all God right there. So the, in reality, they should have came back and they won this game and won this game, but they didn't. Oh, and, and yeah, that's, that's what I got out of it. - Dennis, Dennis. - Quite possibly the greatest secondary was low key suspect. He's low key suspect. It's, it's a little scary. So that last second interception also, Zavian Brown, shout out to you. - The two things that I took from that game, even though he did play much better than came back, Carson Beck lost about 30 million dollars on the way he played. And number two, I think Jalen Mirro is comfortably in this Heisman conversation. Those are two things I took from that. And it's actually perfect segue into our next college topic. - I'm going to say something earlier. - Yeah. I just want to, I just want to make sure it's not recently biased because I mean, I, I live here. So I, obviously I know you according to the game specifically. - Okay. Okay. Okay. - Yeah. - Cause I'm not just saying specifically. - Wait, who? - Talk about what was that 2008, that blackout game when we marched our asses into Athens and hung 30 of y'all in the first quarter. - Now my man, I see I put the y'all credit. I was going to say the best one is easily when Tua hit them boys up to win that game, that, that's number one, like hands down. Like, when I tell you people, they work on suicide watch. - You see what the last you're talking about? - Week, yes. - Yeah. - For like a week, these folks did not want to talk. - What did they, what did they throw that to Jalen Wattle to in the game? - Yes. In the bands, in the bands G, the boys was six. So no, it was a great game. - I just, I really liked, especially from this game, just real quick, before we move on. I like the fact that this game didn't, yeah, obviously the stakes were high, you want to win and now Bama's number one in, in Jump Texas. But like, there was no, this is it, you know, every Alabama Georgia matchup has always had some kind of really incredibly high stakes behind it. This is just a regular old SEC Saturday, baby. That's what I'm talking about. That's good football. - Very good football. I definitely enjoyed it. Um, last month, Jan LaMiro, a Heisman, the highest in conversations, heating up. My boy, Cam Ward, great game on Friday. Uh, that should never, by the way, should have never been called attention down to begin with, let's be very clear. - Big game might be a bit of a strike. - It was a, it was a, I mean, compared to other games, not, it was a good game. It was a solid game that held out. - That held out. - It should have never been called for attention down to begin with the nigga. - He was playing crazy. He was playing crazy. - The nigga was out of bounds. Great call, but those referees over there, Har Rock Stadium, should have didn't want to see some gunplay looking niggas meet them outside of that stadium. But Travis Hunter is the best player, pound for pound, in college football right now. He is a Chico, by the way. I know everybody on here said that the Colorado Buffalo, how would y'all say, five, six wins? We two away now. We two away, bro. - All right. Yeah. - Yeah, four, four, four, one right now. The low-out victory of UCF 48 to 21. She's your standards, 20, 36, 20, 90 yards, three touchdowns, one pick. Uh, they actually started to run the football, which is big. It showed the, uh, balance that they needed. They had 128 yards on the ground, two touchdowns. Um, defense has been pretty good. The defense was terrible last year. They've been pretty solid. This year, especially in the second half. But Travis Hunter is a story, man. Now in receptions, 88, 89 yards, one touchdown. And he also put in a couple tackles and had a credible interception, where he hit the Heisman polls in the end zone. With everything going well, you know, you got Jalen Murrow, he's at a bigger team. You got Cam Moore, what he's doing. Uh, and I'm pretty sure there'll be, you know, some other candidates going on here. But what chances, what legitimate shot here? What Travis Hunter to win a, a, a Heisman? - For me, I just worry about his fact that he's not, he's not going to be on a, in my opinion. I don't think Colorado's going to win more than two more, two more games. I'm looking at their schedule right now. I think they may be, I think yeah, I think Kansas States and L, I think Arizona is an L Cincinnati fringe W, Texas tech. I'm not sure Utah L, Kansas, who knows who Kansas is going to be by November and Oklahoma State L. I don't, again, I think that's the only thing for me, because if I'm going to apply the same argument about, um, within L rookie of the year, with, you know, a guy needing to be, I mean, that's, that's pretty spectacular that this guy can play on both sides of the ball and not just do it, but do it incredibly well. I think there's something to be said that, said to that. And that, that you, you're not going to get that. We're not getting this again. So I think if we're going to give it to a guy who's able to do that, we got to do it now. And we can't wait until someone like him comes along again, you know, in a couple of more generations. I think this is a one, I kind of like, which I think this is a unique situation where, you know, I, I do think that Colorado probably can do too much. But I don't know, I don't, I don't, I mean, you're going to say, I think they can play. He got seven. I think they can get three more. But regardless of the record, I think that's what he's doing. It's so crazy. Like when people bring up other dual threat quarterback, I mean, dual threat, uh, where receivers, none of them was great and why receivers he is. So that to me is why it's the, the outlier. And I feel that the voters or whoever decides this shouldn't look at that and give him the award. I mean, we're jailing my role bonus. We can't borders doing this great. But what this dude is doing is just asking that it don't make no sense. Like to the point where whoever traps him is really, you don't have to play whatever your need is. You know what I'm saying? Uh, whoever that is, that's fine. Uh, whatever you need, I don't tell him back to back weeks. I tried to play that shit off. But I think this is a unique situation to where they should give it to the kid because what he's been doing is just been crazy. And like you said, quote, I don't think we're going to see something like this for a long time where he, he's legitimately great at both positions. And that's why I think that it should go to him. Um, bang, I'm going to go to you. What's your, what's your, what's your take on his Heisman candidacy? Man, he got to win. They got to win now. Like it carries me out. Yeah, they got to, he can't, he can be the most electric football player on the football field, but the Heisman go to quarterbacks. And unless you are that damn better, he's going to always go to a quarterback now. So he has to be, it's, I hate to use, I hate to use in this way, but how black people got to be double everybody else in order to get what they need to get. You bring up a good point, bang, because that's another thing that worries me is, and I hate to say it because I love and I respect Dion Sanders. I worry if possible voters, yeah, for Dion might hinder Travis Hunter's chances. Yeah. And even acknowledge that as a possibility, because that's not the onus for that. That's not him. And that's why I was going, that was, that was going to be part two of this. You have part one of this is, is that he's a what he's doing is unprecedented, but he's still not a quarterback. So he has to be, hell, he has to be that damn better than the guy who's throwing him the ball. You got time, McShade is coming out here and saying, I watched every play that he did during that game against Baylor and the man was fantastic. He was amazing. He has to be that much better than the guy that's throwing him the ball. Luckily, people like Carson, like Carson Beck had that game that he had the weekend and yours is not playing right now. So you got arch is coming out there, but he has to do that for the rest of the season. And Colorado has to be not only a, a, a, a bolting, but they got to win like eight nine games before he even gets like really true. Do you think you're both in New York? Yeah, he's going to New York. Okay. Time out. Time out. I mean, obviously, I love Travis Bert. Doesn't need to run Williams is Serena Williams cousin. And she tweeted it yesterday. No, I'm sorry. She just tweeted it 26 minutes ago. She said what? She said, honestly, this is a pretty impressive from my 17 year old cousin. Go cuz. What the hell? That's random. We actually know or like that black cousin, like, like a patch of my home's called Dylan Riola, his cousin. I know his last name. Because there's a lot of black Williams up there. Yeah, we can get into the, I mean, we didn't know. Yeah, but no, my thing. They must be distant cousins. Hey, we got niggas be everywhere. My thing with Travis is the fact that you have had so many, you know, well respected names in college football come out and say what he's doing is different. Like that's why I think the win, the win launch record may not be held against him that much. Cuz when you have Charles Wilson come out and say, no bro, he's doing this at an elite level, a level that I wasn't doing that when you have Urban Myers say that, you know, we've seen a lot of great college football players, but we haven't seen somebody do it on both sides of the ball the way he does consistently. So I think he just needs more games like last week, but he has these marquee moments like, you know, the last two weeks, like he had the fumble, the fumble that he forced at the goal line. Then he has to dive in an inception. He still he almost has 10 receptions. He has a touchdown. He has to keep giving you spectacular plays on both sides. And I think if he does that, not only is he going to the ceremony, he could he could fuck around and pull it out and get a win. Don't say I would, I agree with you, and I would even jump on your side if it was just the players for me. Because I think if you look that, if you were to pull just Heisman Trophy winners, people who got that trophy, I don't think it's close. Travis Hunter, Travis Hunter had that trophy and this goddamn, his goddamn locker today. You wouldn't even have to go the rest of the season. If it was up to just the winners, you got damn right. But it ain't. And that's what I worry about. I worry about the Heisman shouldn't even be a trophy that just that we just automatically look at the damn quarterback in the first place. I feel that way by NFL MVP too. Yeah, last time someone on defense won won the Heisman. Charles, listen, when was that? You know, 1980, I mean, 1998. Yeah. And the fact that it takes this long to even consider it is. Yeah, it's a quarterback. It's a quarterback thing, you know, much love respect the trap. I will be rooting for you. Final five minutes. I'm just going to talk about the big trait happening over the weekend. Massive straight acts accordingly sent to the chat first for everybody. I got to give him for NBA news, NBA court. By the way, Mason Rudolph time in Miami right now. I don't know if anybody paid attention. Mason Rudolph is the starting quarterback intended for Tennessee right now. What is that? What is on the bench, ladies? What is that? What I say? What I say, lads, you call it, you call it is out there. But car happy towns got traded out of out of the blue to the New York Knicks for Julius Randu and Dante D'Vincenzo in a future first round pick. I have a lot of Knicks fans homies, a lot of them with the straw because they love Julius Randu. Look at me when I say this, the niggas stinks. Okay, Julius Randu is ass. Okay, we have seen it for years and years and years. New York fans of the same dish, Chicago sports fans do fall over the hard hat lunch pale type players. It's catsoft, 100%. But when it comes to the game of basketball, in the words of, what's my man, Markiplier, player to player, no comparison. Currently, it's a way better player than Julius Randu. I love this trade for the New York Knicks and I hate the Knicks. So if I say I love it, that means, oh, somebody said, we'll got hurt, but he's on the bench. Okay, either way, it makes him rude all time. But for me, I love this trade because that's exactly what the Knicks need. They need another score, another offensive guy, a big who can put up points in the paint. So by now, is he gonna be posted from the corner like Tim Legu a lot of times? Yeah, but that's just how today's NBA is. You're gonna have to live with that. It's better than Julius going full bozo mode and running to the paint like he's March on Lynch. I love this trade 100% from the Minnesota perspective on a basketball side is ugly, but we knew that this is gonna happen. They had this slash payroll because it's probably changing management change ownership with a rock and Mark Lury taking over 100%, they weren't gonna keep playing cap $220 when they got a paint athlete, Edwards, they're already paying room to go there. That was just part of it. But for the Knicks, Knicks fan, I'm telling you, there's gonna be some nice when he gonna be soft and you'll be calling him out his name. But I love this trade for them. And I really think they got a legitimate shot to make the NBA finals. And I never thought I was gonna say that. Yeah, this is great. This was a great trade. I think from a human side, it's probably unfortunate for cat because, you know, he spent all his time in Minnesota. He's going through a lot, you know, personally and professionally in Minnesota. And now that they finally established a culture, you get traded. So, you know, that sucks. But going to New York, a team that is, you know, expected to contend to win the East and go to the finals. I think that's dope. And also, you got Mr. Robinson at the play defense. So, I know he's still recovering from an injury that he got. Joel Embi did that whole shit and grabbed his leg. But I think that's something that can take some of that pressure defensively off of him. And Tim's is great as he met it up in teams as history with cats. So, you know, they've worked together before. So, I think this is a really, really good trade from New York, if usually it's Randall. Damn dog like this. You go from New York City to Minnesota. You're going from Manhattan to more than Minneapolis. I was told that there were hoes in Minneapolis. No, no, Minneapolis is a good city, but it ain't fucking New York. Yeah, according to, I said Ohio. I just say Minneapolis. Okay, I was in Minnesota. I was in Minnesota. I was told the hoes were in New York. I said Ohio. Yeah, she did that real judgey point. No, she tried to slide that in there. Yeah, you know, I said Ohio. We don't take too much Mid-West Landon. I'll come on. I will leave what I want to say about Minnesota alone. They said that Joe be a white woman in Minnesota at the least. I'm going to leave it alone because it would be disrespectful. And I don't want to get called out on the show. But a specific type of woman, the woman in Minnesota. Yeah, same for the judge. Waiting for Julia's random. Julia's random is going to have a slate of women that he cannot avoid. It's very married, isn't he, with children? Like I said, he's going to be a slate of women, a type of woman that he's not going to be able to avoid when he gets there. They're going to be all over. Look, it's a terrible trade for Minnesota. This, this, we know what this is. This is a, this is money. This is, this is a salary dump in the worst possible way. This is what a lot of people was afraid of when the ownership thing started to take place. In fact, a lot of people who had said they want to blow up the team completely after this season. If a ride, a company were to get a hold of the team because of the capital that they had in the first place. So I wasn't surprised that this trade happened. I was surprised that it happened so late. This, this, this happened with media days. Media days today, yeah. Yeah, it was supposed to happen like this late. So that, that's what I'm more surprised of that how late that this trade happened in the first place. With that being said, if I'm cat, amen, that's cool and all. But I know that my girl would rather be in New York than she would rather be in Minneapolis, St. Paul. So Jordan Woods and her mama. Hey, this is a trade for them. All right? They got to get a Madison Avenue here. We come in car dashes. We cool, we back cool with the car dashes in them too. Oh, let's ride. I won't be surprised if they get married after this shit. I bet we moved on up. But if I'm the next, the time, the time is now to win. There's no bones about it. You are now a top 14 in the, in the East. In the league. Yeah, it's a big top 14 lead. I'm not going to put them on the league yet. Nice. Give me this shit. I know, but I'm not going to put them there yet. I don't put them there yet because the team got a jail. You know, the other niggas from Villanova that didn't get traded. They got to, they got to get back to knowing each other. They cat cat cat is a different cat is a little bit different than Julia's Randall. Julia's Randall will pop outside, but he can still move around in the post. But he, he issued that thing too. Well, Kat think he's the greatest big man shooter of all time. Like he, he, he's going to stay out there. So what's going to happen when he stays out there? You just, you just trust the Mitchell Robison all bounce out coming off injury. You got tibs just over there. Yeah, he know what he got in cat and cat know what he got in tibs. But it's going, it's, it's, they got to fall into place. But I think it will, I will say this. I think it will. And, and I will throw out a prediction right now that I expect next to be in the Eastern Conference Finals. I do too. And they, and they play the Boston Celtics open the night. Rain night before the NBA tries to bludgeon us to death with Brown and Brownie content in their second game. But I'll talk about that on Friday. That is all we've got for y'all today. Very good episode man. Shout out to Greg Rags, Julia for joining us in hour one. Shout out to everybody watching. We had 11, 11, 100 people on the chat today. So shout out to all of y'all. We back on Friday. We going to have our guy granted the program. Co-host of the Captain Jay Hill Morning Show. Jay Hill will be joining us. And real quick, real quick, because I didn't get a chance to do it on the show. Because everybody was talking some good baseball and everything. But rest of the piece to Pete Rose. Look man, it's a, it's a damn shame that he's now probably going to get into the Hall of Fame, now that he's passed. But one of the things that I learned about Pete Rose even before the documentary is how he supported his teammates. Especially the players of color as well. So don't know necessarily about anything outside of his personal life, outside of him being the original fan duel and stuff. But if there was ever a player that you looked at and you said that this is how the game supposed to be played, that's Pete Rose. The all time his leader should not, not be in the Hall of Fame. And he should have had that opportunity to do it alive. But I think Greenie said it best how this ain't really the time to talk about the complicated legacy. We've heard about the complicated legacy anytime you hear Pete Rose's name. I just hope for the next couple of days, everybody who celebrates baseball just shows how this man played the game. Yeah, and I know it's not going to happen after that. Actually, I think it's a great time to discuss complicated legacies. Let's give it a day or two because we hear all the time about the betting more that we hear the baseball. Well, you see what the thing said? It said that Pete Rose hit King Ben from the game. I'm like, damn, like damn, like that's what I'm saying. But then I also, I just like a little answer. Obviously, I didn't play in the league and nothing like that. Was somebody who played in college and playing in different stadiums. People don't understand, I understand gambling is legal now. But like that rule is like the cardinal sin in baseball. When you're walking in the club houses, no, it's literally. You know how when you was in school and your teacher would put all the signs up and shit around the class, when you walk in, it's big ass one. Big ass there. You're not betting on baseball. So like for him to do that and then betting on his team. And also what really fucked Pete up, he kept lying. Like he's showing the documentary. He wanted to die with the line. He did that with the line, but eventually. It's like damn, I want to actually hear about baseball for a day. Yeah, I don't think it ever happened. And it never happened. But it's like, it's like there's plenty of wild card series. I'm about to, you're going to hit some baseball. It's going to be about some hell. For give me one damn, some, some, some, some ill ass Pete Rose. I like that. Give him buddy. Yeah, yeah. It's just like disgrace, cyclists, Lance Armstrong. Like you have to stay, disgrace, cyclists. You have to fight it. You have to fight it. That's terrible. And just so you all know, I felt the same way about, the same way about OJ Simpson. Like damn, I get it. But damn, we've been hearing about this shit. We've been hearing about this shit. And so OJ Simpson, not guilty in a court of law. It's like, damn it. Hopefully, before we end this episode, I want to put it on the record that the Titans kept the wrong court. Oh, for sure. Will you say what? The Titans kept the wrong quarterback. Yeah. So we 11s is what? I know he got hurt. I know he got hurt. Yes, he's telling him. He's telling him to Anthony Richardson. But he's telling him to Anthony Richardson, who's probably wrong. I don't think so. That nigga's trash. But we'll be back on Friday. Look while Jonathan Hood from the Captain Jay Hood morning show. We join us and look while we get you ready for best Panthers. Kai Ross Adams couldn't join us that last minute, but he'll be joining us on Friday to preview. Week 6 in the council ball world, man. So y'all can follow Courtney at 1-800-Colabro. You can follow Dante at October Zontay on Twitter. You can follow Jerbang at Jerbang. All social media platforms. You can follow me @Barchett Scott on all social media platforms. Man, subscribe to Patreon. Patreon.com/Barchett Network. 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