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Does The VP Debate Matter and do you trust CBS hosting tonight's debate?
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I'm Sally Helm with the podcast History This Week. In each episode, we serve as your eyes and ears into history's biggest events, and the lesser told stories. Ones you might not even know happened. Find History This Week on the Free Odyssey app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Kaelin Company, weekday morning, 6 till 10. 6am news. We are sponsored by Garden State Earthworks this morning in Philadelphia. A lot of Philadelphia news man is in critical condition shot in the East Mount Erie section of Philadelphia, and it happened right around dinner time. Yesterday, 1500 block of East Johnson Street that were police were called with multiple 911 calls as shots were fired in a driveway. That according to Philadelphia police, officers arriving to find a 29-year-old man laying face down, suffering from gunshot wounds to his back. He was rushed to the hospital, and he's in critical condition this morning. So, all we know at this point, the victim found in the driveway there, and five spent shell casings around the corner half a block away, and another actually was also found. So, why a half a block away, a six-spend shell casing is found. We just don't have all the answers. Was this a situation where was this somebody pulling out of their garage, pulling into their driveway, and then they were being attacked, attempted carjacking? We don't know. So, police still asking questions as far as what happened here. Yeah. Speaking of, you know, carjacking and trying to get in and out of driveways and garages, you notice our garage doors closed again in the morning when we come in. Yeah, it was open for like a year straight. Now, all of a sudden, we got to park our car, get it out, swipe it with our badge, get back in, then I got to put my seatbelt back on because the damn thing beeps every two seconds. Hey, can a morning show get like some accommodations, or maybe we should just crawl on our face. Nicholas, crawl on your face. I just asking. If you recall, somebody had a man who had like a seizure, and she was leaving the parking garage last year. Was it a seizure, really? Yes. Okay. That's what I heard. Oh, yeah. I, you know, I have sources. That's what I heard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have like a seizure. That's garage sources, too. And he ran into the side of the former garage door and toppling it, fire department. That's when I learned because I was like trying to get out that day. Yeah. And they said, um, yeah, you can. I was like, I could just move it. And this firefighter goes, ah, it's like a thousand pounds. Yeah. And I was like, Oh, I'm going to just pick this thing up real quick. Yeah, it's like gone. You can't move that. Let me throw this in the back of my minivan in the third. I can use those as something else. I can repurpose that thing. So it took all this time to get the new door. All right. That's what happened. Okay. And the man was okay. He ended up in the hospital. That's all that matters. So there's that. First world problems. First world. I know, right? The garage door. What did you say on your face? Oh my goodness. All right. So we have a lot going on. Obviously this morning, the big story here for us that's making national news as well. Doc workers across the country and here in Philadelphia, the Port of Philadelphia. In fact, our, our on strike and they're out on the picket lines after the international longshoreman's association known as the ILA announced that yes, as, as we knew, this was impending, they stopped negotiating last June, but they went on strike 1201 AM this morning, impacting all major ports up along the East Coast and the golf course. We're talking about 45,000 workers from Texas all the way up to Maine. And they say they want better pay. They want job security. They are against automate automation and AI. That's those are just some of their concern. And they want an 80% raise. Apparently they were offered more than a 50 50 50% raise already. And they turn it down, turn it down. And then they were negotiating for a 70%. And then it went up to 77%. So, wow, can we all get an 80% raise? I'd take 50 right now if Greg came with me. 37, 36 major U.S. ports. Wow. They say it could cost the, the economy $5 billion a day. A day. I was just going to say, but when does it impact us dollar wise or availability wise? Like how quickly will we like, like, like. Not immediately, but soon. All right. Yeah. Buying, you're going to start buying things in bulk real quick. The stock up. Yes. Yeah. Stock up. Maybe buy some. Well, this is the problem. Maybe buy some Amazon stock. See, everybody's going to stock up. Yeah. And then we cause the shortages. It's true. Didn't we live this before? We did. Right. And then Joe Toto's, how supply chain works. And we figured it out. By the way, Amazon's $168 is a share right now. Mm hmm. Yeah. By the way. And by the way, just locally ports in. Obviously, I said Philadelphia archives and gals on strike here in the picket lines. In New York, New Jersey, Wilmington, Delaware, also obviously closed due to the strike. They say they're prepared for a long strike, if necessary. Oh boy. And they deserve this. And to Greg's point, well, first of all, they're really talking of that automation part. But to Greg's point, they basically have the country by the Quijones. Mm hmm. Yeah. And also a factor. And we were just talking about unions in the last couple of weeks with Teamsters and how, you know, 59% of the workers in the union are backing Trump, yet the bosses are backing Harris. Very interesting dynamic here as we approach five weeks. Do they get paid when they're on strike? No, right. No, but they'll get back pay. Okay. But, but I mean, I'm guessing a lot of these guys aren't millionaires, right? No, that's true. So how long can they afford to be out on strike? That's true. And the president does have the power to intervene. But the last time somebody did it was it was after 11 days. It was I was looking it up last night. I think it was George W. Bush back in the day. So it's usually presidents hope that they can resolve things. And I think in the past, they don't want to get involved. I think the last the last time we talked about a strike was the writers. Correct for the like the late night shows and whatever else we were talking about about a year, year and a half ago. Were we talking about that? Yes, that's true. Yeah. Not much of an impact. No, of course not. This is 45,000 workers. And obviously, you know, the last time the port workers on the east coast, on the Gulf East and Gulf Coast went on strike was 1977. We're talking 50 years ago. They were showing all the cities on the map from, you know, like you said, from Maine to Texas. You know, you had Philly and Baltimore and Roanoke. And I mean, it's literally the entire side of the run-in of the east coast is all orange lit up with the port cities. If you're Kamala Harris, what side do you, because there's already a pull out the shifts that most union workers hate her anyway. So do you stand with the union workers? Do you do you try and get them back to work? Like Reagan did with the. They're traffic controllers. Yeah, with the air traffic controllers. Where do what do you do? What side do you come down on this? It's kind of hard after the bosses come down and support Kamala, right? I mean, wouldn't she be stabbing them in the back after they just endorsed Harris? Yeah. Yeah, she should probably stay out of this. Much like the Middle East and everything else. She's damned if she doesn't, damned if she doesn't. And I'm not trying to defend her, but like at this point, you know, like, what is she going to say? What is she going to do? The battle lines have already been drawn. So if you're, if you're CBS news, because they're hosting the debate tonight, the VP debate vice president, don't really have too much control over this. But do you ask about this? Sure. I think these are heartbeat away from whoever wins. You're heartbeat away from being the president. Yeah, it's got to be like a like a secondary question underneath the economy, right? You know, you start on what's your general vision to deal with inflation, and then you hit up with a follow up and you throw that in there to wrap it up before you move on to abortion or immigration or whatever else they're going to kick around tonight. By the way, just a quick update for you locally police, Philadelphia police say they have located the vehicle, the suspected vehicle, in that fatal hit and run. Remember, we told you we talked about the 14 year old girl, West Philadelphia. Dawn Watson is her name. She was crossing the street with her mom and she was struck and killed on the 6500 block of Haverford Avenue. So they don't have the person, the driver. I don't have word if the vehicle, you know, is it a stolen vehicle? I wonder. One will wonder, but it's the Mercedes. So they've got the vehicle there one step closer to an arrest in this tragic case. Remember, her body was thrown thrown so far by this fast go this speeding vehicle that initially mom as a pedestrian the cross work was frantic. Looking around the her daughter's body was flung. Yeah, she couldn't find her, right? She couldn't find her. Yeah, it's amazing. It's just so sad. I'll take you to two big stories. Obviously in the world of sports, Pete Rose, all time hits leader banned from baseball for betting on the sport has died at the age of 83. We've lost so many people on the last day. We lost the Kembe Matumbo earlier in the day. Yep, it's unbelievable. And we, uh, who was the country guy yesterday? We talked about 88 years old. Chris Christoff. Yeah, I swear these things always happen in threes, don't they? John Ashton, the actor. He was a Beverly Hills cop. Yep, 76 clue for 920 today. Yeah, Pete Rose, man. That was my dad's all time favorite. He talked, you want to talk about the polar opposite of a guy like comparing somebody to Darius sleigh? Pete Rose, right? There's your guy. You think Pete Rose would have a bad day and then get on social media and say, well, if you look at my career and totality, I was pretty good now. And you reference your dad. I mean, Rose made four all-star appearances and help the fills obviously to one of, one of their two world championships during his five seasons here in Philadelphia. 1979 to 83 fillies releasing a statement at how sad they are to learn of Rose's passing, saying he'll always be remembered for his grit and hustle. Yeah, and for betting on baseball as a player, which led to his ban, which by the way, so it's so absurd that we live in a world now. We're major league baseball every single commercial. There's a gambling ad with draft Kings and fan duel and bet MGM. Yeah, you couldn't let the guy in the hall of fame really don't gamble on baseball, but we'll take the sports books money, okay. And we'll update you, of course, on the tragedy that's happening down south with Hurricane and then Tropical Storm Helene that struck Florida. Remember, it'll be a week ago tomorrow or into Thursday. I guess it was Thursday evening that it went, that it struck Florida, technically made landfall near Perry, Florida as a category four. So the death toll rises 132 people. That's the latest striking six states, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, Trump, obviously in Georgia yesterday. President Joe Biden has said now he will go to the worst parts of North Carolina, Western parts tomorrow. Yeah, pretty amazing that Trump, who's basically a civilian, a citizen at this point, private citizen, he's able to beat Joe and Kamala to these ravaged areas like Georgia and Tennessee and wherever else he plans on going. Kamala sitting there, by the way, indoors at FEMA headquarters in Washington. And did you see the post where her social media, like again, she's got the earbuds in, not connected to the phone? And she's sitting in front of a blank piece of paper pretending to write. And there's nothing on the sheet of paper. Everything is staged about that woman. Plug it in. It's a bit nothing but a 24/7 photo op with this lady. So a lot swirling around and I know that the Trump campaign started to go fund me page. He was there with Franklin Graham yesterday, so praying with people and surveying the damage. And by the way, don't forget Don Trump was able to get to East Palestine, Ohio after the trained around that with the water issue before Joe and Kamala. And finally, I will just say happy birthday for President Jimmy Carter. Today is his 100th birthday. October 1st, he was born in 1924. First first president to hit 100. Yeah, what do they call that octogenarian? Is that what it's called? Or am I getting that wrong? Yeah, octogenarian. He's got me beat by 40 years. He saw four or four decades that I'm ever going to see. Believable. He was 39th president, the United States of America, and probably best remembered for his post presidency. Because of course, tough economy with Carter. So he was not necessarily honored as a great president but post president for all of his peace initiatives and great life. So happy birthday, Mr. President 100. I guess that they said for his museum, for this presidential museum, they'll charge 100 pennies under, you know, one dollar. So it's kind of a kind of a cute story though. All right. Think about what he's lived through since the 20s. We are sponsored this morning by Garden State Earthworks. Do you have water on your property giving you a headache, soggy yards, damp patio or pool area, getting all swampy? Visit GardenStateEarthworks.com. You've drained solution that that's GardenState's Earthworks.com. GardenStateEarthworks.com. You can always call 856-848-4444. Today, there unfortunately, I have to say this, there is another chance for a little bit of drizzle today and tomorrow, but not washouts by any measure, just enough to be annoying. The sun still comes out. So we're still in that range of low 70s until Thursday when we pop up to sunny skies and 77 degrees. So we'll hit a much warmer tone this first week of April. But today and tomorrow, we still have to deal with all the spattering of the rain. And for our Philadelphia Phillies, well, at least we know we're down to two with who we're going to face this Saturday. That game yesterday with the first of the double headers, with Brains The Mets, was a fabulous game. I know. It was a great game. I'm just sitting back, stress-free, watching these two beat each other's brains in. Like, all right, whoever a good win, that's fine. The Phillies are resting up, seeing it get six days off. So the Mets take on the Brewers, starting today at 5.30. And the winner of that phase is the Phillies. That was correct. And the Diamondbacks are out of it because they both, they split the double header. Yes. That's embraced, split the double header. According to ESPN's analytics, the Phillies have a 59% chance to make the NLCS, a 32% chance to make the World Series and an 18% chance to win it all. By the way, you're being called, it's not an octogen area. That's 80. That's, I knew that didn't sound right. Yeah, you're right. You know, I was questioning that the moment it popped up into my, it's a centennial, centennial president. Yeah, I should have fact checked myself before I opened my mouth. I'll see if Margaret Brennan can help me out tonight. Road Warrior says, "Give Nick a break. He'll be good or someday." I'll be better. Yeah, I should never have even opened up my mouth. Why would you even cover that? That's a great point, guys. Could have just laid low and let go and get to the reach. I was trying to be nice. It's six o'clock in the morning. No, you're good. You're good. Cale and Company News Live. All right, Don, thank you very much. 6.20 on this Tuesday morning. Let's get to another big take on Cale and Company. And it is brought to you by Wawa BP debate. Exactly five weeks until the 2024 election. And on October 1st, we get what looks to be the final debate of this election cycle. Vice President Hopefuls, J.D. Vance and Tim Walls, square off at nine o'clock tonight. You can hear the debate. Simon Cast on Talk Radio 1210WPHT. You can watch it on CBS. Will the debate matter? Well, some say potentially, most say probably not. But with 34 days to go, it's hard to imagine anything changing anyone's minds, except for that small sliver, as we like to say, of undecided voters that still remain persuadable. And when we look back at not only 2024, but also 2023, we have seen countless seismic political events with marginal impact on the polls from Donald Trump's four indictments, a little bit of a boost, to attempting to remove Trump from state ballots to multiple assassination attempts. Trump remains in that 46 to 49 percent range. With Kamala Harris, she went from an approval rating lower than Joe Biden's while serving as his VP to riding the wave of being installed as Biden's replacement through the DNC, through the first and only debate with Donald Trump, but has since plateaued. The Harris honeymoon has been over for weeks and it lasted all of about five or six weeks. But debates have had some impact and we can't ignore it. Just look to this year. Joe Biden was so awful on June 27th in Atlanta that the Democrat power brokers subverted democracy, put him out to political pasture and installed his VP in a last ditch effort to save and keep power. So what can Vance and walls do tonight? Well, let's not forget the one thing they most notably share in common. That is their military backgrounds. If I'm Vance, I make sure I hammer home stolen valor. Vance should be keenly aware that Pennsylvania is home to over 750,000 veterans. You were brought on board to Trump's ticket to help secure the Rust Belt. It's time for Mr. Ohio to deliver. After that, I think it comes down to who is less weird. That was the political buzzword of the summer. Weird. Vance needs to continue being the most visible and vocal man of the four names on the two political tickets. As of two weeks ago, Vance had done 59 interviews followed by Trump's 14, Walls is four and Harris is three and JD Vance, he's a cool customer, smooth speaker, Ivy League attorney, but he still projects the everyday man. He needs to out every day the Democrats every day, man. That being Tim Walls and do it being less weird. But the time for weirdness is over. It's time for another W word and that word is winning. JD Vance should be able to win on the issues, the policies and America's top concerns. After all, Trump advance have made their plans crystal clear on the economy, the border, wars, crime, energy, you name it. And how can Tim Walls match Vance on policy when we still don't know much of anything about Kamala Harris's policies? What are we going to get a wall's word salad? Is he going to flail his arms around like a stretch Armstrong on the Ellen DeGeneres show with the occasional foot kick? Have you noticed that little leg kick he likes to do? He's like Chris Farley on that SNL talk show a bit. Is he going to hit us with superlatives and tell us about joy and hope and change and turning the page? But the truth is this, this election is likely about men against women. It's not about policy, it's not about issues. It's about feelings, it's about men and women. And Kamala has women in her corner, but the GOP has men in their corner. And the biggest weakness between the two tickets is men Tim Walls and Doug Amhoff. They can continue this charade of redefining masculinity, but nobody buys it. Not even MSNBC. Here is the Dems TV propaganda machine the morning Joe show breaking down the Kamala vulnerability. Listen and watch this. Older white men, just like people thought after Biden left the race, more of a challenge, pulling them to vote against Trump again. Yeah, I mean older white men and actually to younger white men to also a bit of a challenge. I mean, that number they'll like a lot up past five in Pennsylvania because you're right. It's the new Ohio, it's the new Florida, it's the state where they see they have the most problems. And of course then the either the concern or the upside depending on how you look at this from the Harris campaign's point of view is that Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin people think will break the same way. That's what they've done traditionally ever since 1980. I think there's one exception. And so if they lose Pennsylvania, what would that then mean for Wisconsin and Michigan? If they win Wisconsin and Michigan, does that mean they're going to win Pennsylvania? But that's why they're putting so much resources into that. But it's men. I mean, I think the real struggle for the Harris campaign is young men, older men, men of color, white men. And they are doing all they can. You can see, I think we'll, the debate next week will be really interesting to see how Tim Walts reaches out to that group. Doug Emhoff, who I interviewed yesterday, I think we've got to come for that. We can have later on the program. He is making a concerted effort in his own way to reach out to that group. They know that that's where they know that's where they have a weakness. Three takeaways from that clip. Number one, did you hear her say that Pennsylvania is the new Ohio and Florida for Democrats as in a struggle? Is Kamala doing far worse than we actually realize here in the state that likely could determine the entire election? Secondly, how one state goes, the other two go. When we talk about Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, they've all followed each other every time except for one since 1980. More on Kamala's Pennsylvania problem as well as the Michigan mistake coming up this hour. And then number three, they are struggling with all men, young, old, white, black, Hispanic, doesn't matter. Men are in Trump's corner. To be honest, I don't know a single man. God's honest truth. I don't know a single man who says they are voting for Kamala Harris. And I have male friends that are Democrats. They have not told me they are voting for Kamala Harris. Doesn't mean they're voting for Trump, but they have not said they are voting for Kamala Harris. But the debate could be decided on three key approaches in my opinion. It's balancing your agenda versus your attack lines tonight. If we are to take CVS at face value, that they will not fact check and intervene. And it's up to the two debaters to fact check each other. How do you balance your vision for America versus calling out the other guy? That's key point number one for me. Secondly, whose resume and upbringing will connect with voter bases in middle America more? Does it even matter? And finally, can either more low key guy compared to the top of the ticket, say something that clicks with voters that maybe hasn't been relayed well enough from either Trump or Harris at the top of the ticket, both of whom are frequently criticized. And then there's the nerves. There's the anxiety. We know Trump's a natural. Vance is a natural, but this is his first shining moment. He's never had a stage bigger than this. We know Kamala's heart in the first 10 minutes of that debate on September 10 was beating a mile per minute. We could hear her struggling to speak because she wasn't breathing as she spoke. And according to a CNN report, Tim Walz is nervous. And in prep, he's had mayor Pete as his mock opponent in prep for the debate. They've had reportedly quote long sessions that have gone into the night, according to CNN, who also reports that Walz is worried, quote, that he will let Harris down. If Walz can let Harris down after she has let America down for almost four years, what does that say about the ineptitude and the confidence or lack thereof of this ticket? How can any American be confident in either one of them? And every time Tim Walz has told America who he is, it's proven to be a lie, an exaggeration, or his excuse as well. I'm not great with the English language and my wife has to correct me. Scott Jennings of CNN pulling no punches. Listen and watch the consequential second of all, Walz is a buffoon. I'm sorry. This guy. He's the only school teacher in America who brags it. None of his students can get into an Ivy League school. He said one consequential press interaction with our Danna Bash who asked him about the fabrications in his own resume. And his answer was essentially, you know, me no understand words good. I mean, he's a buffoon. He's he's on a he's on a free ride for running under Harris. He gets. Here's the 411 for tonight's proceedings. The debate will be 90 minutes. No studio audience. The microphones will not be muted. Let me repeat that. The mics will be hot the entire time. Completely different scenario from the last two debates with Trump Biden and Trump Harris. The debate will be moderated by CBS evening news news host Nora O'Donnell and CBS face the nation host Margaret Brennan, but will CBS press Tim Walz if he pulls a Kamala and doesn't answer the questions? Well, CNN has the answer and apparently it's a no. Listen and watch this final clip. Even last week, I was in New York at a fundraiser that Tim Walz was doing at an apartment there. And he said after I left the room, I heard he said to someone who asked how's debate prep going? He said, look, you know, I was trained as a teacher. As a teacher, we're trained to answer the questions. We tell our students to answer the questions. That's not what this is. So, Walz really trying to fit himself into this somewhat awkward always thing of a nationally televised debate. I think tonight, if you don't watch the debate and I hand you the transcript of the debate and you took the time to read it, you will see that J.D. Vance wins this debate. But Tim Walz and the mainstream media, they could prop him up and say he wins the debate if he does a bunch of theatrics and throws a sideshow because so far, that's all Tim Walz is. He's Kamala Harris's emotional support animal. I think J.D. Vance wins this debate and wins it easily tonight. That said, not sure that it matters. And that's the big take. The big take on killing company brought to you by Wawa, where they have classic hoagies. Have you heard? It's just $6, whether it's the cheese steak, meatball or Italian, you can get any classic hoagie for just six bucks. Gotta have a Wawa 855, 839, 1210. We'll give you some other details on the debate tonight, including how CBS will go about their fact checking the history of CBS and their moderators being super, super anti Trump and Tim Walz five biggest lies. How much of that will J.D. Vance expose? We'll get to that as we continue this morning. It's Kaitlyn company and we're back after this. I'm Sally Helm with the podcast history this week. In each episode, we serve as your eyes and ears into history's biggest events and the lesser told stories. Ones you might not even know happened. Find history this week on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts. It's Kaitlyn company on demand from talk radio 1210 W.P.H.T. and the free Odyssey app. Arnan Michigan is the Fox News decision desk editor. And he says that in the six elections this century, according to him, the VP debate has mattered in half of them in three of those six. And he mentioned most notably Sarah Palin from years ago, 15, 16 years ago. So the question is, does tonight actually matter? Throw up a poll question on Twitter. I don't know if you want to throw one up in the YouTube chat. Will this debate have any impact on the election between Trump and Kamala? Maybe we could check out the results later in the show. Don Stenzo and you've been doing this for a long time. You've seen VP debates that have mattered and some that have not. I'm of the belief that this could very well matter tonight, even if it's just slightly, because I do think this is going to be a super razor thin election. I do think this is an election that we might go days, if not weeks, without knowing who the winner is. I don't think it'll be 36 days like it was 24 years ago. But I could see us getting to Friday after the election November 8 or whatever that date is, not knowing the winner. So do you think tonight matters for anybody in America? I think it sure, it all matters. Mostly it's who says something outlandish, something stupid, that sort of thing. But you mentioned the Sarah Palin, you know, the Sarah Palin debate. And I'll take you back then, because that was pre-Trump. That was before we knew terms such as fake news. And so think about the media now looking back. Think about the media treatment of John McCain and Sarah Palin. And the media was critical in that election. Then you think of when John McCain, who was a war hero, who was a prisoner of war and longtime senator obviously, but he was when he passed away, he was treated like a saint by the media. And I remember many people looking at that and saying, wow, why didn't you say anything nice about the guy? You ripped into him. Complete 180, right? And yes. And so I know that as people get older, maybe when they pass away, you don't want to rip on them. But the point is they were brutal and unfair to John McCain and Sarah Palin. And then of course, you have the former idiots who ran that campaign and they're now at MSNBC, which tells you everything you need to know. They were losers and they knew that they would never have another job running a campaign. Think about McCain running against Obama and being fair and even saying to the woman at the rally so famously when she said something, I guess it was a birther thing or she was questioning him as evil or what have you. And McCain took the microphone away from her and said, no, he's he's a good man. Well, you make a really great point because in the Trump era of politics, especially Republican politics, now all of a sudden, the mainstream media, they look at the bushes, they look at the McCain's, the Cheney's, the Romney's, they look at them almost like they're Democrats and they're darling little angels all because they have vilified Trump so much. It's almost like the mainstream media and the propaganda machines like MSNBC are saying, hey, Republicans, you need to smarten up and go back to your old ways. And it's like, obviously there's this, this, you know, impasse here where we're like, no, we're never going back to the way it used to be with the party. That's why I think Americans largely short of, you know, whatever that number really was with Nikki Haley, 20%, 22%. How many of that was Republicans? How many of those were independents and Democrats? That's why America rejected Nikki Haley. I mean, in part because you love Trump so much. But the other part is, and I like, this is just my view, and these are my words. I've said Nikki Haley is just a rebranded, repackaged, refurbished Bush Republican. And I just don't think most Americans want that. That doesn't, the, and I think that's why Trump's doing so well with the younger generation, 18 to 24, black, Hispanic on down the list. Those numbers didn't exist with Bush Republican type policies. Yeah, I'll just remind you of when you mentioned Sarah Palin, think about that famous, I think I used this in the journalism class one time, but that famous Katie Kirk interview with her as Katie Kirk was interviewing Katie was probably was she had CBS news at that point or NBC, I forget. And Katie Kirk says, what are you, what are you reading? What do you read on a daily basis? She was so condescending. And that was the media. And so now in the Trump era, and this is what I always say, Trump was born of this. When you start looking back at election coverage and the way that Republicans and conservatives were treated back then, you realize that Trump was born of this, that a lot of people, well, I don't know, on my mom in 2015, just saying, you know what, poor Jeb Bush, they'll just eat him alive. They'll, you know, he's such a gentleman. He's such a nice Christian man. Like she loved him. She loved the Bush family. But she said, it's Trump from day one from the escalator. It's Trump. It's got to be him because he's going to call them out. And my mom was God bless her in heaven. She was right. Yep. And so that's why with JD Vance, what do you see with him everywhere? Now we talked yesterday about some missteps that I think his campaign has made. But clearly he should win this. I agree. And as far as CBS, they will be front and center tonight. Two things. How will they approach fact checking? And then also their history of being anti Trump, media.com with a good breakdown as they say the following CBS news has opted for a quote unique approach that blends fact checking with a more hands off managing of the candidates. CBS moderators will leave it to Democrat Tim walls and Republican JD Vance to take the lead in fact checking one another. Throughout the 90 minute debate at CBS news studios in New York moderators, however, may step into offer clarifications. If facts go unchecked, which is something we should all have our little tally board out for tonight, because as we know, ABC news fact check Trump five times, Kamala Harris, zero times, or they say if something quote egregious is said, the source noted quote, the goal of a debate is for the candidates to debate and to hold one another accountable. And CBS news is going to provide opportunities for that. The source said a debate is not an interview and the format is different elsewhere. CBS will now this is going to be interesting. I'm going to actually have to check this during a break or check it when I get home tonight before I sit down to watch the debate. CBS will provide real time fact checking of the proceedings. The CBS news confirmed unit consisting of get this forensic journalists and data experts will be verifying claims and addressing misinformation on a live blog on social media and in post debate coverage of the network. So there's got to be some website and you probably can find it if you search for it, or maybe it'll be on one of their their official Twitter or X feeds. But they're basically going to have this CBS news confirmed unit. They're calling it the CNNU where they will be doing all this in real time. So, you know, maybe you've got your TV set up and you have your laptop next to you got to be typing notes for the big take. You can pull up this fact checking thing regardless of whether the two moderators fact check or the two combatants fact check each other. I'm if I'm if I'm, you know, comprehending this correctly, it seems almost like a live running ticker of who's saying things that are not accurate. And this obviously comes after what happened with ABC, where this source told media in regards to CBS's debate tonight. Quote ABC news went too far. They became the story. And that's the thing. When you're the moderators, you're the referee, you're the umpire, you don't want to be the story. It's about the players. It's about the teams. It's about the coaches. It's about the candidates. It's about those in the debate. So with that being said, we've seen two debates. We've seen CNN to their credit. We were I think very fair. I think we all agreed that Jake Tapper and Dana Bash were as close down the middle as you can be for CNN. And then we saw the egregious acts of David Ware and Lindsey Davis on ABC news. What do we expect tonight from CBS? I can't imagine that those suits at that network, even with their anti Trump history, which we will give you the receipts in a moment, they cannot afford to have the same reaction on Tuesday or Wednesday, October 2nd that America had after what ABC had. Do you trust CBS to get it right as far as down the middle? First of all, as far as CBS, they're doing something. They're trying something new with innovation. So there's going to be a scannable code on screen that will direct you to an online fact checking page. Oh, so that's how you get it. Okay. So they'll have it up on the screen. And this has never been done before. Yeah. But to your point about, you know, I think that they've they are reacting to ABC, they're already number three in the ratings. So they don't want to go any lower. They're losing, you know, they're they're basically demoting Nora. She's losing her job as of, I think, January or contracts up. And then she'll go to an undisclosed or unknown post. And basically, that means living out or contract. So they've got they have major ratings troubles. They don't want to have the criticism nor can they afford it that ABC had. So they learned from that. And this will be interesting. So what does that mean? If you scan the code on screen, who is fact checking behind the scenes? Who's fact checking the fact check? I always ask that question. And I don't have that answer. So you scan with a QR code on your phone, on your TV. Yes. And then you can get that updated information on your phone while you're watching the television. Yes. While you're simulcasting and listening to us on the talk radio 12 tech. And so if I'm, you know, if I'm with either campaign, then I'll have a counter. I want to have a counter code and fact check the fact checkers. Yep. This debate is not even going to be close in my opinion. I think JD Vance is very good at this. I think he's he's very smart and without fact checking to kind of get in the way of him, you know, rolling. I can see him steamrolling Tim walls and Tim walls is already kind of downplaying it and saying, well, I'm kind of bad at debates and I'm nervous. You know what I mean? Which, which could also be a little rope dope could. But I think Tim, Tim walls is more of a dope than the rope. So I, I really see, I really see JD Vance doing numbers on Tim walls tonight. That being said, that being said, I don't know how much of it matters at this point. Why not? I think Don's right. Every little bit helps. It can change the momentum. It can change the, it can change the media narrative, what everybody is talking about the next day or for the next couple of days. So in that sense, I guess it could work. But this is going to be people will watch this and nobody's ever made up their mind because of a vice president to mate. You know, I mean, 90% of people couldn't name the vice presidents that are running with the candidates. So yeah, they don't, most people don't live it and breathe it every day. Like we do, but this is the time of the year where people are backing in and checked in, right? We said this all summer, eventually people will get back to their routine and they'll be checking in to get caught up. Well, it's catch up time, right? It's October 1st. So catch up. No mustard, please. That's right. Mustard from the Kansas double order. I think you're right, though. People are hungry for information. And if you look at the ratings from the last and only debate, I guess you could say with this current, well, there, there will be another debate at the end of this month with with with faux Trump and Focamala. So just remember that. So I mean, I think I saw a poll over the weekend that 64% of Americans wanted another debate between Trump and Harris. We're obviously not going to get that. At least it doesn't appear to be the case, but you are getting their number twos tonight, which is interesting. But again, because you look at the dynamic, you have two middle class guys, although quick or two that were, you know, raised poor, whatever you want to call it. Kamala tries to say I was raised a middle class child. People are sick of hearing that. Nobody believes that anyway, but JD Vance is a guy who ended up becoming an Ivy League educated Yale attorney. And then you have his counterpart, Tim Walls, which I if CNN is accurate in one of those clips that I played, Tim Walls has bragged as a teacher that his children have never been accepted to an Ivy League institution, which I would think if you're an educator and a teacher, you would probably want your kids to end up at Harvard or, you know, that would be very rewarding for you. You feel like, you know what, you let them down that path. Now truth be told, I actually, you know what, I kind of agree with Tim Walls on this, because after what we've seen with the anti semitism and the restrictions on free speech in the Ivy League, I don't want anybody going to the Ivy League. I can't stand those institutions anymore. So I think that's interesting. Plus the stolen valor stuff. You have to, and I don't want to make age, age a factor, but you have to put in, you have to take into consideration that JD Vance is is really, really good at media. He's really good. I've said that for months now, like he does these interviews. He's right there. He's, he's firing. He's, he's concise. He's just, he's, he's, he looks at you. He answers all the questions. He like, he's very good at that. But he doesn't get emotional. And, and, and his, his, his age will be a factor for me. He's a 39 or 40. He's like, you know, he's, he's right there in the prime and he's just, he's not going to let anything. I don't think he's nervous about this. I don't think he's scared about this. I heard, uh, what's his name? Amherst is playing, uh, was playing, uh, walls for debate prep. Um, I, I think he's going to be ready. And I think, I think that Tim walls will try and, you know, be the nice guy. And, and I think he's going to get steamrolled. If he immediately comes out with joy, hope and change and turn the, if he comes out rehearsed and scripted and memorized with Kamala's words, it's over. It's going to take all of two minutes for anybody that's been paying attention that have heard the same tired rhetoric of Kamala. Legitimately, the same speech, the same script everywhere she goes. If Vance just regurgitates that. Yep. Just check your social media feed at 903. You'll already know what people believe as far as who won the debate. Uh, let me grab Jeremy to wrap up the hour. He's in media. He's got some fog over the debate. Jeremy, you go right ahead. Hi. Well, the show. Good morning. Good morning. So I think that this VDP debate is extremely important. And here's why. There is an extreme vulnerability with both of these candidates, Donald Trump is 78 years old and he is, is, is safety, unfortunately. Um, Harris is, is, has a lot of inadequacy. So the question is, you know, when you look at somebody like the VPs, is JD Vance a person that can run the country? Is JD Vance a person that we would want to run the country? I mean, I think so. But, and then you look at walls and you say, well, he has more political experience than any of them, but look at his look at the policies that he's done and look what he's done in Minnesota. I don't, I'm not really impressed. So I just feel, I just feel that people should really look at these VPs as being people that, you know, are at some point going to have to be instrumental in the campaign. Yep. And, um, in the administration. And I think it's very important. Yeah. No, it's actually a really good point, Jeremy, because if, if JD walls has a unbelievably good night tonight where events are JD Vance, JD walls, Tim Vance against JD walls, who wins tonight? If JD Vance has a great night, I can guarantee you there are going to be some Trump supporters that are saying right there, that man, he's the heir apparent. JD Vance is a combat war veteran who signed up and fought in the Iraq war. And I think that that's something that I hope they ask about military experience because walls obviously lied about his that's stolen valor. And I hope that they bring that up more than they keep bringing up with CNN keeps bringing up is the issue of the Haitian migrants, although they will bring that issue up. Oh, they will. But I think for JD Vance, if you look at him and really, yes, he is not an experienced politician. He's a junior senator from Ohio. So if you look at what are the qualifications for a commander and chief, his is that he is a combat war veteran. And yes, he went to Ohio State. Yes, he graduated Yale Law School. Yes, he's very bright. But by all accounts, Greg, you brought up age. You never would have brought up age. If you talked about, let's say Donald J. Trump, when he was 60 years old, so it always depends on the person to your point. Tim walls is 60 and he looks older than Biden. Yeah, I mean, it's unbelievable. And by the way, too, as far as the Haitian situation, if I'm JD Vance, I am very, very careful with how I answer that question because if it becomes about cats and dogs, I'm telling you what the media is going to do. He's not going to make it about cats and dogs. Okay, better. He won't. He'll he'll reference what he said on the Senate floor when he showed statistics about the humanitarian crisis. And he did do that and that went viral. Yeah, they should have stuck with that one. Yep. And the whole, you know, dog and cat thing just went crazy, you know, went viral. But the truth is JD Vance on the Senate floor and you can, anybody can look it up. He went through a whole thing where he talked about the fact that they just don't have the resources for individuals. Yes, many of them are there legally invited because they're they're fleeing a gang ridden violent place in Haiti. But the problem is too many folks came during this current administration and and flooded it. 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