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Jeff Poor Show - Tuesday 10-01-24
[MUSIC PLAYING] From Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach, at all points in between, an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Porchow. I don't think I've done it this way. [MUSIC PLAYING] Good morning. Welcome to the Jeff Porchow to the talk on this 6'5". Thanks for being with us on this Tuesday morning, 251-34301-06 is the text line. You want to be in touch with the program? You text me, and we'll converse accordingly. Coming up on the program today in about a half hour. State Representative Phillip Insler, he is a Democrat from Montgomery. But more notably, I suppose, he is the force, if you will, behind the art of sponsor. That's probably a more appropriate way to put it. He's a sponsor of a Glock switch band, a bill. I got a lot of questions about this. I know what it is, and I know what a Glock switch is. But sort of-- like, well, we'll get into it in about 30 minutes. So you want to stay tuned for that. Andrew Sorrell, making his monthly appearance on the program, our state auditor, always getting to hear from him. And it is Tuesday, so we will hear from-- we will hear from John Wall, the Alabama Republican Party chairman. So make sure you stay tuned for that. Once again, text line, 2513430106. I guess we're kicking off here, vice presidential debate tonight, Democrats kind of-- maybe they do have humor in them. But they're trying to downplay expectations for Tim Walls, who's just, I think, an intellectual lightweight probably. He just had a brand, and I think Democrats-- Democrats needed this Midwestern dad brand to cloak their true colors. Well, it's even that. The true colors are this. And you think it's like promote a woke agenda? But it's not even that. It's just to be in power, to have power. And I think it changed some things and making more woke along the way, so be it. But more importantly, it's about having the stranglehold on power. So the base is like down with all of the left-wing ideology, socialized medicine, reparations, whatever. And-- but the face is all of these desperate parts, like Peter Buttigieg and AOC or whatever. So they said, well, let's get like the-- this guy looks like a TV dad from the 1980s. Let's put him on the ticket. It's like felt he was more of the left-wing version of a Mo Brooks. But I don't think about Mo was a little more competent. But anyway, we'll see that tonight. They're downplaying expectations here because he's nothing more than sort of the facade. He's not going to get-- and Vance will be prepared. I just want to clear McCaskill and MSNBC, like, well, you know, JD Vance is just going to-- he's ready to go. And Tim Walsh has never been in a situation like this. Well, we need to lower our expectations a little bit. And a bunch of other Democrats are doing the same, which is great because I'll say this. I think the media coverage of JD Vance has been completely, totally unfair. Just like everything from the couch stuff to making up things about-- he was all because he's Donald Trump's running mate. So that's tonight. Long sort of a strike. Yay. Well, this is what we wanted, right, guys? I'm more of a presence of the Port of Mobile. I don't get it. I understand the wages, but the opposition to automation is-- it hampers production just for the sake of hampering it. Organized labor, ladies and gentlemen. We'll see what happens. I don't get-- this is what-- and Democrats are probably going to try to-- this is themselves from this, with this union ball. So I was listed to him on Mobile Mornings. Mark Baxter, is that his name? Anyway, going to bring the country to its knees. I got a cripple. Anybody who says things like that is not a hero. Anybody who says-- it goes around and talks that way, I think they're overreaching here. Am I wrong? Yeah, you go out there and you start talking about hurting innocent bystanders in such an aggressive way. And that's not the way to go about it. Yeah, you can get up there and talk about, you know, hey, we were there during COVID. We didn't get a cost of living adjustment. These companies are making more money, but they're making-- fine, but don't go after the public. 2513430106 is the text line. We've never been fond of organized labor in Alabama. I don't think we're going to start now. But hey, you want to make the biggest part of the mobile economy, then so be it. That's just part of it, I suppose. And you don't hear a lot of-- you don't hear a lot of Democrat politicians here, right? But I think this opposition to automation is wrong-getted, too. And it wasn't supposed to get to this point. And here's the biggest question, guys. Forget everything I just said. Where is our Transportation Secretary, Mayor Pete? Isn't he the guy that was supposed to keep any of this from happening? Wasn't he going to save us? You know, a guy who-- everything that's been in the Biden administration, like, what's functioned properly? Oh, somebody just, like, all the time with Kamala Harris, OK, you have a very weak president. Why doesn't the vice president move in and fill that vacuum? Set herself up to be president. And she never did that. And, heck, she's the nominee now, and she's not really doing that. Well, same with Peter Buttigieg. He's not-- he's laid up in bed with his husband, nursing with a man-bra or whatever. Taking, like, six months off and paternity leave. And, like, that's supposed to be normal behavior. Baffling. But not really-- not really productive. What I think I want to get to here-- and if you remember when the Republicans took over the album legislature-- it's Sarah Elliott talking about this on Friday. But it's gotten a little traction here. Do y'all remember HB 56? We talked about it a lot when I was on this station in its infancy. It was-- it was a widely panned law, because-- and the theory was, well, the state government can't pass a law or function in something that's a constitutional duty of the federal government. I guess, unless it's a gox-witch ban. But that being said, aside from being a gox-witch ban, I mean, the philosophy here is, well, you know, Alabama can't threaten to jail people because of their legal status. Sarah Elliott has kind of beaten a drum on this suddenly, bringing back HB 56 from 2011. Now, it kind of collapsed under its own weight. Luther Strange kind of led it. He was not a very good attorney general. He was-- Luther Strange, when he was attorney general, was sitting himself up to run for US Senate that entire time. I'm convinced. But nonetheless, there wasn't really a good legal strategy in defending this law. But since then, now it's 2024, Elliott thinks, well, the federal courts have-- the federal courts have changed. Might it be worth taking another look at this law and using state resources to crack down the illegal immigration? And like, yeah, listen to people like-- if you do you guys, some of you guys in some of these places remember, I mean, it was a mass exodus from Alabama. And the farmers didn't like it. It was just like, it's a reality. We had to use illegal immigration in this state. But then the law goes away, and we're just, as citizens here, told to deal with illegal immigrants in your schools, in your businesses, you just learn Spanish and suck it up. We think of that law coming back. Do we want to fight that again? Is that something that we have the appetite for in the state? Especially if Donald Trump doesn't win, I think Alabama has to pursue this law again. Because there's going to be just no stopping what's going on now, and it's going to get twice as bad. That's-- but he's been-- he said it on Capitol Journal as well. I wonder how many people said, oh, are we going to give this a shot? So-- and one more thing, real quick, Israel invading Lebanon. So I think we're all to brink of seeing Israel strike Iran. And I think-- I think that's imminent. I think that's about to happen. It's going to happen before the November election. If Israel waits, the Harris administration, potentially in office, will not allow it. And they'll still be living under the threat of a nuclear attack from Iran. That-- look at Iran as a threat to Israel. But you got to look at it the other way around as Israel the threat to Iran. And that's why they saw Hezbollah and Hamas, to some extent, as important to their defense. Well, Hezbollah is gone now. All might we see Israel strike Iran and then what does that do? What does that look like? 2, 5, 1, 3, 4, 3, 0, 1, 0, 6, bumpy ride, hit into November. That's all I could say. This is the Jeff Moore Show it up and talk about 065. [MUSIC PLAYING] When you don't believe in what I've seen. Stayed up late again watching TV with my best friend, laughing at the late night show. I don't know what's wrong with me because I know I need my wrist. But if I don't stay about now, I'd sleep on day I ain't in my best. Hey, yes. Welcome back to the Jeff Moore Show it up and talk. 1, 065. Thank you for staying with us on this Tuesday morning. State Representative Philip Insler Montgomery, he sent me an old Charlotte Meadows seat. Were they redistrict? Did Montgomery, it was a very favorable map for a Democrat. Insler won that seat. But he's turned out to be kind of a nice guy. But he'll be on with us here in a moment. 2, 5, 1, 3, 4, 3, 0, 1, 0, 6. Leo writes this, the port should fire every single union member, shut the ports down for a week, then start rehiring out the street, as union members were already overpaid and underworked. How do you know that? I don't know that, Leo. I'm not doubting. But how do we know that? Well, that's also worth $17 an hour. What's like a going rate or wage there? Is that-- let's talk about that. I mean, I'm mixed on this because I think, generally speaking, unions have abused their role and have been overly political, especially for Democrats. But I will acknowledge this, and Alabama, we have a business community that gets its weight every turn. Like, all you've got to say is economic development and things sell through the Alabama legislature. And jobs, jobs, jobs, right? Jeff, please, that's just 25-- why the 25-year sit-its for possessing an utterance for machine guns is not good enough for the Glockswitches. It's a federal felony. Does the state also need a statute to give our police authority? Well, I would say this, though. You can have a Glockswitch and not necessarily have a gun, right? What I'm going to ask-- why are we trying to pinpoint the source of these-- or whoever, wherever these things are being manufactured? If it's in somebody's basement with a 3D printer, or what? Why hasn't that been the focus here? Why don't-- like, what is the penalty for manufacturing these? I don't think I remember a long time ago where the still industry in the United States had the union go against automation there, and that ran all the still production to the other countries. Well, the difference here is you can't run the-- I don't know how you could outsource this type of commerce. Matt, more to Jeff, you think automation of a complete peer is a good thing by replacing the human element in forcing thousands to the employment line? Well, mobility as an automated gate, some parts are seeing a whole peer set up with no workers at all. This causes it includes cranes, trucks, forkless, et cetera. Why? It's like, do you think the cotton gin was a progressive invention? At some point, we're going to have to acknowledge the reality here. And automation is going to play a big role in our lives. They would ease that transition. I'm not crazy about these businesses just-- but here's the deal. This is-- this is what's going to happen. Oh, you want to go on strike? Well, we got a robot for that. We don't really need you. That's what's going to happen. I don't know if it's a good thing. It's happening, Matt. It's just, unfortunately, that's the way it's going to be. Can you tell me how you can stop that? You got to outlaw automation? Well, then, these ports will just go all automation and have a very, very minimal-- even footprint. And the whole point of these workers will be moot. And you can just go into another field and start the Union there, I guess. Pat, if Israel tax I ran, I believe China will take Taiwan on. Not a good way for Trump to be in office or to start a World War III. I don't-- I'm hesitant to think that China will do this. Look, the Chinese economy is very fragile. And they need the US as much as we need them. Even though we're sort of a semi-adversarial state, attacking Taiwan will disrupt their economy and it'll collapse. Oh, that's a talk. What oh, six, five? (SINGING) (SINGING) (SINGING) (SINGING) [Music] Thanks for staying with us on this Tuesday morning. Text line, if you want to be in touch with the program, you know how to use it. 2513430106, that's how you do. So, still come on a program, our monthly visit with Andrew Sorrell, our state auditor, and then it is Tuesday. So, John Wald, your Alabama Republican Party Chairman, will be with us as well. But joining us now, he represents, I guess it's a portion of East Montgomery, other parts, but a state representative, Philip Insler, joins us on the line. Representative, good morning, aren't you? Good morning. I'm doing well and appreciate you having me on. Hey, thanks for coming on. That's a great opportunity for me to have a Democrat lawmaker on. And I ask the Republican lawmakers this all the time. That is a real kind of a rough session for a lot of them. And I know they got a lot of things passed that you probably disagree with. But what was it like from your perspective? Like, do you, like, was it a bumpy ride or is every session sort of a bumpy ride? Well, I guess we've been through too, but have they been a bumpy ride? Yeah, look, I expect session to be, you know, up and down time. You know, there's certainly bills that pass that I didn't agree with or that our caucus didn't agree with, but overall, you know, I think speaker led better. It's done a great job leading the house. I know I'm on our side. There was a lot of support on our side, meaning the outside. A lot of support for gaming and gambling. You know, there was disappointment overall that that didn't end up getting passed. But look, I think session is a, I expected it to be a turbulent time. So, you know, it's good to have a little break and good to hear up for next session. Oh, it's interesting to hear that. Well, obviously we're on to talking about Glocks, which is, and well, we'll start off here and kind of walk us through your bill generally. You know, the specifics, penalties and so on and so forth. Sure, and so I was, you know, for your listeners who don't know, got elected in 2022. So I've been in this for a few years, but during the campaign and since the time I've been on, I've heard from law enforcement in Montgomery, our sheriff, Montgomery Police, others throughout the state who have said that they're increasingly finding these Glocks, witches or trigger activators attached to pistols and that what's happening is they're turning them over to the US attorneys or turning them over to the federal government. But what they want is a state level of fence where they can have the cases prosecuted by district attorneys in Alabama because the case load was getting so large. They wanted to be able to essentially kind of share it between the federal government and the state government. So that's really where the idea originated. So I've introduced the bill for a few years now. And what it does is make it illegal to have a pistol that's converted into a machine gun. So again, using one of those box switches or conversion devices. There are kind of a few terms that are used on the penalty for it would be a class C felony. And that was, you know, what was recommended and what law enforcement and district attorneys were supportive of. And that's why we went with that. Well, let me ask you this as it pertains to that. So the thing that keeps coming up, there's already a federal law out there that handles this. Talk about how that works and what you want to do would work in concert with that or as a duplication. Exactly how would that work? Sure. So right now, if say the, you know, sheriff's in Mobile or the, you know, police officer up in Huntsville or, you know, anywhere in between, you know, if they find one of these devices. What the best they can do is turn it over to the federal government to then decide if it's prosecuted and for the US government to decide how they prosecute it. That indictment process, that prosecution process can take a long time. So what this will do is is a free up and empowered district attorneys in Alabama to press charges themselves and they can do that probably a little bit more quickly and say the federal government can. But it'll certainly then be up to the discretion of law enforcement. You know, do they turn it over to the feds or do they keep it on the state level? So all it is is another accountability piece. It's a way to say, look, we want to deter some of these killing machines, some of these devices. But we also don't want to hold people accountable or make sure that there's another mechanism to hold them accountable should law enforcement find it. You know, and let me say this, but it's, you know, big picture. This is just one small piece of a. To improve public safety, I think it starts with supporting our police departments and supports, you know, starts of making sure that we're supporting retention and recruitment efforts. So I'm not going to sit here and fix all of these issues, but at least. You know, I don't want to is that we do this all the time. There are plenty of things that are illegal or. In Alabama, we're elected to enact things on the state level. So we very much should act. How widespread do you think this is? And like, I'm very. That there are really open a lot of people's eyes to this, but how much of how many of these like devices or are how many of these are in years how widespread of a problem is it in Alabama. Yeah, so in essentially our larger cities, it certainly is more of a problem. The report I've gotten from law enforcement or that are probably at least a few hundred of these devices out there and therefore potential cases every year. I think there was a analysis done from the automobile a couple years ago that says it was like a three or 400% increase at least in the number of devices a law enforcement found. So really in the last two years, they proliferated and the reason for that is that they're really easy to make. They're really cheap. So a lot of people are getting their hands on them. And that's why law enforcement is just having an even tougher time, you know, trying to crack down on it. Well, what occurs to me and so. And maybe this is in your wallet. I'm just not aware of it. I haven't read it. Are you your bill? I should say. What about the people who manufacture these now is it will be it a somebody with a 3D printer and a basement somewhere. I don't know how these things are made or how you get one, but it would occur to me that like what would be the penalty for manufacturing these devices. Wouldn't that maybe serve as a deterrent as well. Yeah, great question. You know, the federal law covers that right now and you know, the idea is that the US attorneys, the federal government can go over the bigger kind of go after the bigger fish. So go after the manufacturers go after those who are dealing those, the state level offense would deal more on an individual level with those who are making the choice to them to desk those and the idea would be if the state if state district attorneys can handle more of the individual cases. The federal government it brings up some resources for them to go after those that are manufacturing these and really, you know, spreading these out into communities and into the state. I mean, do you think they're being made in Alabama or do you have any sense of where these things are coming from? You know, it's a great question. I mean, they could be made in Alabama, but also they could be coming from overseas. They could be coming from outside of the country. And that's why, you know, we have to take the all hands on that approach to make sure that we're dressing. You know, if they are coming from out of state or out of country, make sure that we're going after the source, but then to the extent that they are making their way in, you know, making sure that there is just one other way to deal with it in Alabama. This really important and I'm looking at what I've heard from law enforcement is that. And see first hand through demonstrations that once these are fired, you know, the bullet spray everywhere, they're really dangerous. So this isn't about self protection. You know, we certainly want people to be able to protect themselves to be able to, you know, have their second amendment right to have a firearm. But what we want to do is to say, you know, for law enforcement that are increasingly now at risk because they may encounter someone with these really, really dangerous devices that they don't know how to use that. That we want to make it a little bit safer, especially for law enforcement. And I've heard people talk about these representative and just how hard it is to control the actual firearm when one's attached to it. And then maybe that's it like maybe your colleagues don't realize this, but it's yeah, you get the whatever the performance objective is, but it's just like a wildly, you just swinging wildly away putting a lot of people in harm's way. Exactly. And the Montgomery Sheriff did a demonstration here a couple weeks ago where they had one of their, well, an ATF arms expert, you know, do a demonstration and you know, he filed a fire, a regular pistol, you know, hit the target spot on over and over again, then try firing one that had a switch on it. And the bullets just went in every which direction, they barely get the target. And that's why they are so dangerous because they can then get bystanders, you know, someone, especially who's not a trained expert aspiring one of these and they're in a car driving by or they're, you know, holding it with one hand. And they, it just puts people innocent people and bystanders that have even a greater risk. Well, joined by state representative Philip Inzler of Montgomery here on the program. I spend a lot of time talking about the problems of Montgomery Birmingham on a mobile show, probably did the chagrino, some of my listeners, but representative and since this is sort of your home base. I mean, Montgomery is certainly I'm under session up there once a week, probably during football season we stay in Montgomery before we get Auburn. I'm there enough and it doesn't feel as safe as it once had. What do you, I mean, just just from your ground level perspective there. What do you think is the problem there? What do you think needs to be done? And then look, public safety is the biggest issue that I hear about in my district and it doesn't matter if it's white residents, black residents, you know, upper middle class, working class. It's something that that all people want to have safe neighborhoods. I am really glad and give a lot of credit to the crime suppression unit and in the last few months, especially this summer has been a partnership among Montgomery police of the sheriff, the attorney general's office, Leah. That has has shown results and I think making sure that we continue to focus on Montgomery recruiting and retaining a strong police department. And also having those kind of partnerships, you know, between the city and the state, you know, has shown the results and we need to continue to do that. I will add in that when it comes to public safety and I hear this from residents, you know, no matter their playable background. A lot of them think that it does start at home. It starts with families raising their children to make good decisions. And that's something that, you know, no city or government or police department can control, but to the extent that government can take action. There are things also that that we can do more of. You know, I work a lot with young people to try to, you know, steer them in the right direction and as far as conflict resolution. You know, having that skill set, you know, that's kind of on the early end, but then making sure that right that we have a police force that supported and able to do their job well. And that's why, you know, I've introduced this bill over and over again, is because I've heard from law enforcement that it's just one tool in the toolbox and being able to crack down on crime. What do you think of the, I mean, the gang problem and I, there's a, it seems like there's a reluctance to even acknowledge it in some places. And maybe it's not quite a, more of a, more, it's more of a Birmingham phenomenon than a Montgomery phenomenon. But I mean, like we saw Dave Ville, I mean, I'm sure you're familiar with all these instances where it looks like it was gang related. I don't, I mean, this just seems like something that's happened here lately, representative of where it's sort of, sort of increased or whatever really showed up on our radar more. Sure. No, and I'm not, you know, privy to what, you know, the police department or law enforcement, you know, they identify as gangs or not, but I know that if there are gangs, or not if there are there are, you know, we should acknowledge that, you know, and should make sure that we go after that. You know, I've been interesting. Someone once said to me that when it comes to crime, you know, they always have to think about how it has impacted those that have been victimized, those that have been impacted, those that have lost someone. And I think the more we humanize it, the more that we talk about, well, if someone has lost the family member to a gang member, or they have lost the loved one to gun violence or to a crime, you know, making sure that we approach it. You know, with that heartfelt sense, you know, is really important. Lastly, and it sounds like Montgomery's training in a better direction than it was a six months ago when he had that innocent bystander out of line of highway and that incident. But I like immediately Sarah barfoot, your colleague read Ingram talking about like a takeover of police departments and I've, it seems like a lot of Republicans have kind of are kind of cool to that idea. They're not really big on that. What do you think at some level of the state's involvement there, especially in your hometown? Sure. Yeah, and I do not support that bill. And, you know, here's why I think that partnerships like the one we see now between the state and the city are effective that has increased morale. But we elect mayors and, and, you know, city councils to then make those local decisions about hiring a police chief and, you know, budgets. So I think keeping that, you know, within our cities, it's a very heavy handed, top down approach to have the state get involved in that sense. But I do think and I look forward to the state. I think there are other ways we can support, you know, whether it is through, you know, additional funding, whether it is through additional resources, you know, supporting local police departments that may be having a tough time. I think that kind of partnership effort is much better than kind of forcing or mandating something. Well, representative, you've been very generous through your time. And I, like I said, I appreciate you making time for us. And maybe we could talk again soon. Absolutely. No. And look, let me say that, you know, it is a healthy and good thing that there are different viewpoints at times and, you know, I think coming on your show and having the conversation is meaningful. So I appreciate you having me on. Anytime. Thanks for making time for us. State Representative Philip Inzler there. We got to get a break. This is the Jet Force show it. If I'm talking one, oh, six, five. Oh, I'm leaving off that midnight train tomorrow. And I know just where I'm going. Welcome back to the Jet Force show it. If I'm talking one, oh, six, five, two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six. Thank you for listening to the come on the program and you're thrilled about 45 minutes and John Wall and that 11 o'clock hour. We'll plow through some text here while we have the opportunity. Toothless Bamber ask is media asked Harris about port strikes. She silent. This strike should be an October surprise to the Harris campaign. Depends on how much pain there is. It depends on what what the what the impact is. I don't know. Now we're told a doom and gloom Walmart shelves are going to be empty. You better start stocking up of anything that's made in China. That is a household accessory, I guess, which I don't know. I haven't given that much thought. On a text or the cover wagon industry disappeared after the automobile was invented. Yeah, but the the cover the covered wagon drivers didn't go and strike today. There's a I hate to say it guys. There's a little bit of an entitlement here. When we look at the dock workers can go and strike it that they need to or do whatever. But it's kind of like it's kind of like what I do. I've watched the journalism industry evaporate. Most of that's its own doing. They want to say it's technology, but most of it is people are like the hell with you. But it's like radio people listening to podcast. We need to do radio hosting to go on strike over podcasters. Is that is is that appropriate? I mean, technology is going to do what technology is going to do. I'm on a textured genticle from AP on Iowa wages. Iowa wages make a base hour of $81,000 per year. Some can pull in over $200,000 annually with large amounts of overtime, which is not in the bottom. But I don't like this class warfare angle to it. That, hey, they're getting rich off of us. Why are those rich crybabies whining about? I mean, they should do what they got to do to think it's going to better for their position and organizing a strike. Fine. But I think they're harming themselves. Well, number one, I guess, I don't think the the ILA or whatever their their official position that they're going to bring this country to its knees. Makes that doesn't appreciate them to the public at all. It doesn't make me want to be sympathetic to their cause at all. Well, look, if they want to go on strike and they want to protest the way these businesses are. These these ports are handling themselves and so be it. But what's going to happen in the long run is they're going to regret it because more and more will be automated. We're back. This is FM talk. What? Oh, six, five. Your leather jacket means to you what this hat means to me. But I get it. From Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach at all points in between, an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Moore Show. I don't think Hank done it this way. Welcome back to the Jeff Moore Show. If I'm talking about oh, six, five. Text slide, two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six. That's how you communicate with the show host still to come on a program here at about 30 minutes. Andrew Sorrell, he is our state auditor. She will stay tuned for that. Also, the program today, John Wally, I'm a Republican party chairman. Please make sure you stay tuned for that as well. Always going to get updates, especially to hear this election season. I'm going to wrap up these texts that we get into some other narratives here. The real Sam writes this. They're also checking out Jeff. So maybe do that with longshoremen 40 to 50% of truckers came to speak English and got their CDL in other countries is killing the American trucker because they will work for nothing. When I would say this, this is important. If we're going to go into direction of automation and I, you know, it's regrettable and it really sucks for some people. But you damn sure better control the border in a forest deployment law. You're right about that. In the English is a second language and a lot of truck stops now. Well, I travel a decent bit around the state and I mean, it's always like a loves or, but you notice it. I mean, it's demographics changing. I don't think it's necessarily an illegal immigration problem. But if you're allowing more legal immigrants here to take these jobs that the idea was they were jobs that other Americans don't want, but what it's turned out to be as a way to undermine jobs that corporate America thinks are costing too much labor cost. Or importing labor at the cost at the, at the, what the potential impact on people's jobs here. Why would you do that? And we know why it's just import cheap labor, make it. Make it difficult to operate or not difficult operate but cheaper to operate improved shareholder value. I mean, look, everything is going on in the economy right now. I think inflation is the, you know, the underlying issue for a lot of Americans. And there's inflation here as well with the Dow Jones industrial average or anything other than any other metrics that we measure the health of Wall Street with. But they're doing okay. I mean, they're beating inflation. And sometimes we put too much of an emphasis on that. So if we're going to go in this direction and chase cheap labor. Well, it's a free country, free enterprise, capitalism. But the protectionist aspect has to be the way corporate America is importing cheap labor. They shouldn't abuse our laws and our processes. The better their shareholder price. And I think that's where this Trump populism begins. Well, I don't think these truck driver jobs of jobs that Americans won't do. I think there are a lot of Americans who will do them. It's just, there's a lot of people who don't want to pay what it takes. Mark, regarding the dock worker strike, buy needs to grow a set and do what Reagan did with the air traffic controllers. Jake, morning, Jeff, while I'm hearing you, I would take four minutes of the American trilogy. I end up singing it anyway. That's sort of the point. I think you get like just that right point of the bumper to draw you in and then you're in my audience. And then you probably turn it off and go turn on iTunes, right? Jerry writes this. So this little guy believes it's perfectly acceptable to infringe upon the rights of all citizens of the state, but he doesn't want the state to clean up this filthy city. Is it a infringement of your rights to ban a Glock switch? Make the case. I don't think that it is, but I can be convinced otherwise. Damn Yankee. I understand you don't want to be gloom and doom, but if this strike goes on any length of time, the supply chain disruption will make COVID look like spring break. Hey, I mean, like, do you think it gets that far? But I think happens if it does go that far, damn Yankee, then the strikers will take the hit. It's like when there's a government shutdown and people are doing without whatever the essential goodness of government is, and there's a villain and they villainize Republicans regardless if they're in power or not. But in this case, who's going to be the villain here? The port managers who are like, nameless, faceless entities are these strikers who are going to be portrayed as greedy. That's what's going to happen. They're going to be, you know, somebody's going to say point out that they're like average salaries, like 80 grand a year or whatever. And you're not able to get your hot wheels cars at Walmart because the union's been on strike. Square. Uh, where is Peter Buttigieg? Yeah, about another, yet another transportation problem. And then adds the narrative that Americans won't do these shops is completely false. I agree. I don't know about like, I guess maybe some of the agriculture work. I'd say okay. I think Americans will do any work if the price is right. I think Americans will do a lot of things if the price is right. And if that means the value of the product or good or service or whatever it is that has to go up. I mean, that's the value of it, the labor cost. That that's the way that this is supposed to work. And what we have, we're hamstrung with trying to lower the labor cost all the time, which is a rational action. But it only needs to be rational by the employer, not by the government helping the employer. The government needs to stay out of that business and shut down the border and take care of like, it's handle its domestic policy. But there's a weird ideological component to this that we're like global citizens or something. I think a guy like Alejandro Mayork is where he is at. Pat, there are definitely songs I have added to Apple music because of your show. We probably do a refresher on the bumper. We did it about two years ago. It's hard to believe I have been at this station since 2020. It doesn't seem that long. Scott, it's a Hot Wheels car. It's a search material. It's automobiles. It's food. We imported in America. I don't know how much food we import. I know we import some food, but I don't think we import that much food. We were able to self feed ourselves. I mean, that's self-sustained. You may see it on the margins. But the reason I said Hot Wheels cars is it's like when the government shuts down and they find a little Bobby and Susie crying in front of the gates at Yellowstone Park in Wyoming because they can't go see Old Faithful, Spring Breaker, Christmas Vacation. And it adds that human element. So if you have a little Bobby or Susie crying in the toy aisle of Walmart, it's much more of an impact for the public, Scott, and it would be standing out in front of a job site somewhere. But it's just where we are as a society, Scott. It's more about the aesthetics and that angle than it is the actual. That's what we do. We judge a book by its cover and then you put a face with something. And if Susie can't get the new mermaid Barbie because of the striking dock workers, well, well, that's going to be pretty sad, isn't it? Martin, maybe I missed it, but I didn't hear much about Kris Kristofferson's passing autobiography. It kind of happened to all few things. It happened over the weekend, but then what would it keep me? Mutumbo and Pete Rose dying? That I think I have overshadowed some of it, Martin. But no, you're right about Kris Kristofferson. It seems to have been overshadowed. I got this from Ben. I saw this driving today from Daffany. I was dropping my child off a daycare. Starbucks has come to Fair Hope. I think Starbucks is the most overrated commodity. It is crappy coffee with a bunch of, I shouldn't talk bad about any business on the air, but with lots of syrup or whatever. Anyway, overrated, but I'll still drink it. I guess it's provisioned. If y'all are familiar with provisions, coffee shop on Section Street, they also have a drive-through location on '98 in near Fair Hope, Montrose, I guess. Well, they are greeting our coffee overlords at Starbucks who have a Starbucks now on Greenville Road with an airplane and a banner. This is David Goliath. It would be interesting to see how Starbucks does in Fair Hope. This is a Daffany, isn't it? They love some Starbucks in Daffany, but in Fair Hope, the fruit nuts will protest, I guess, because that's what you're doing, Fair Hope. Shot, if this strike goes on until election time, the Biden administration will be stuck between a rock and a wall. A shortage is multiplied, pressure will be on the 4C union back to work, and Biden will have to betray his union roots. We'll see, Sean. I don't know. Jeff from Spanish Forest, when the government shuts down all of those employees that don't go to work still get paid for not going to Oregon, back pay, when the government starts up again. Fair enough, but I don't look at it from that side of it. Who is being impacted by a government shutdown, or Jeff from Spanish Port, like, it's the people who, they always try to find the victim to make it easier to villainize a Republican, because for all the reasons that is the media's objective here, to curry favor with left wingers and Democrats. I didn't text her. Oh, it's apparent that you have a clue about what goes on. It ports around the country, 45,000 jobs at the port, Leslie. I'll be 100,000 truck drivers out of work, and it's apparent you're not really interested. It's apparent that you're too reliant on speech. It's a big, big picture problem, especially in election year, and who's going to take the fall here. Mayorkas, where is Mayorkas? Did I miss him talking about anything in weeks? I've seen Mayorkas, but a couple of times are Capitol Hill. To the Spammer, Ducky Donuts is the most underrated. You understand they are the coffee shop in New England. And then I say the strike will be over this time tomorrow. This is already offered a 50% increase in their asking for 77. They're overreaching. I'm telling you guys, we're right back. This is FM Talk 106. [MUSIC PLAYING] There's someone for everyone. [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] When the Hollywood writers went on strike, they didn't want AI. They didn't want the implementation of artificial intelligence writing scripts and taking their job away, which is inevitable. They will have this antiquated means of production, and somebody will come along and do it cheaper. [MUSIC PLAYING] That's what's going to happen here. I guess called it a little early there, I suppose. But that's what's going to happen, and it's just the evolution of things. I mean, we had these impediments to this, but they will be overcome with the free market. Jerry, 15% a year over six years, is it really that outrageous? [MUSIC PLAYING] Not sure what the public opinion angle is going to be impact this ILA strike, but people are simply trying to get a 50% raise. How much has inflation increased in the last six years? I think they would have a lot more than that. We'll be right back. This is FM Talk with '065. [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] Welcome back to the Jet Force Show at FM Talk. [MUSIC PLAYING] Thanks for staying with us on this Tuesday morning, 2513430106. That's how you get in touch with the program. So the couple of programs, John Wall, our Tuesday regular guest with the Alabama Republican Party, joining us now on the line. However, he is our state auditor. We get to talk to him about once a month, always appreciative of his time, but Andrew Sorrell is on with us. Andrew, good morning. How are you? Good morning, Jeff. I'm doing well. Great to talk with you. You're coming on. Well, this will be probably our second to last time before people go to vote for president, but how you feel about November? I was in Alaska two weeks ago at a conference, the State Financial Officers Foundation. We held our conference in Anchorage. And one of our speakers was Scott Rasmussen, who you know is the guy who started ESPN. He also runs the Rasmussen Polling Company. And I talked to him. I was getting some tips on polling. You know, Jeff, I'm an amateur pollster. You know that. I talked about it before. And I said, who's going to win the presidential election? He said, let me tell you something. He said, if anybody out there, any pollster out there says they know he's going to win this election, they are lying to you. That this election is absolutely too close to call. There's no way anyone can know who would win at the race for today. And there's no way anyone can know who's going to win next month. So anyway, I thought that was very interesting. So my personal guess is that we're going to be okay. We're going to pull it out. I think if you look at a real clear politics average, Trump is ahead slightly. And the swing states that are important. And when I say slightly, I mean less than a half percentage point. So a lot of this has to do with turnout. Hopefully, we don't have the problems with all the mail-in balloting and everything that we have back in 2020. That remains to be seen. Hopefully, some of these states have cleaned up their election laws like we've been able to do here in Alabama to worry about that as much. But the truth is, nobody can actually predict it, but I feel pretty good. Well, I mean, looking at it, the candidate's a very top of the ticket. I don't think it's a very good candidate. I think she could be, is she so chose to be, but she does it. It's just kind of a strange phenomenon. But where I think Democrats are going to really make hay is they just have a better ground game. It's just they dare out registering voters or they're out registering dead voters even or whatever you want to say the Democrats do. They got to do the win. That's where their strength lies. It's really more of a grassroots thing. And it's why I thought Joe Biden wouldn't necessarily add of it when he dropped out. But that's my area of concern as far as the selection goes. Yeah, you know, Democrats wrote the election rules and Republicans are unwilling to play by. The Democrats came out with this idea of early voting. They came out ballot harvesting idea, which is still legal in many states. Thankfully, not in Alabama. Thanks to the efforts of our secretary of state and two good legislators that got that bill pushed through. But they wrote all these rules and then they know how to exploit the rules. They know how to harvest the ballots way better than Republicans. They know how to get the early vote. You know, they bank a million votes in swing states before election day ever occurs. And if there's a snowstorm on election day, they've already got their votes in the back. So Republicans have not been good at the ground game and it's frustrating. I think Democrats have beaten us at the digital game and the ground game for the last 20 years. And we are very fortunate to have pulled off some of the wins that we had. I think back to the 2000 election when we lost the popular vote and won the presidency. Everyone remembers the 2016 election where we lost the popular vote and won the presidency. So even when we are winning, we're winning by getting fewer votes than our opponents overall. And there's an element of luck there. We can thank the Electoral College for being set up that way. But yeah, it's concerning Jeff. I hope the Republicans have learned from our losses in the last three election cycles. And by that, I mean, 2018, 2020, and 2022, we've been losing ground. And 2022 is supposed to be the big ground for a year. It didn't really transpire. We limped back to control in the house. We've got to get better at actually running race. But sometimes it doesn't have anything to do with the issues. How much money you raise. Sometimes it has to do with your level of effort. And the Democrats out effort us in a lot of these swing states. And I think we could perform two to three points better if we put in the same level of effort. Yeah. And I guess what you look back at 16 and 20. And I think on election day, what called a lot of Democrats or a lot of, maybe not even Democrats, but media types off guard was the level of enthusiasm. And, you know, because Republicans show up to vote on election day. And I think they always underestimate that. They always look at like early voting or absentee balloting or any of that is like a, um, there's a bell weather for what turnout will be like on election day. But I don't think you could do that anymore. I just think there's a philosophical thing where Republicans, you know, maybe to their detriment, reject all of this election season stuff and they show up on election day. But I don't know that necessarily the, the pollsters or the powers that be that watch this stuff have caught up with that notion. So back in 2016, I was running a race for Lauderdale County commission chairman. I was, I was the consultant kind of mentioned that race. And I remember getting a phone call from the local party official. He said, Andrew, I just learned something. This was probably three weeks in advance of the general election. All right, we're very, very close. And Lauderdale at the time is truly a swing county. Nobody knew which way any of these rates were going to go. He said, Andrew, 6,000 people have registered to vote in Lauderdale County since the primary. And I almost dropped my phone. And I said, there's only 93,000 people in the county. You're telling me 6,000 of them went and registered to vote in the last six months. He said, yes. And I thought they're going to vote for Trump. That's the only reason. Nobody's going to register to vote for Hillary Clinton in Lauderdale County, Alabama. All right, they're going to vote for Trump. So we came up with a strategy, let's mail them and let's tie Donald Trump to the rest of the ticket and say, you support Trump, vote straight, take a Republican. So we did spend a lot of county party money doing that incredibly successful. We swept every race in 2016. There was very high enthusiasm and that enthusiasm was missed by the pollsters because pollsters a lot of times, I don't know if they poll the people who registered to vote two weeks ago. Those people may not show up on the poll. 2020, the level of enthusiasm was also very high. I remember Donald Trump got millions more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016. The problem was that the Democrat level of enthusiasm was also through the roof in 2020. So where's the momentum going to be? Who's going to have the enthusiasm? Does Kamala turn out as many people as Joe Biden in 2020? Look, who knows? I think Republicans are tired of losing, ready to win again, and I do think we have probably an enthusiasm edge to your point. Yeah, well, and I don't think that these pollsters, maybe they're finally starting to get it. But I thought for at least two cycles, they were anticipating like Barack Obama level turnout for their candidate, especially I thought with Hillary Clinton. They way over exaggerated what they thought would be the turnout, especially in African American community for Hillary. And then like, you know, these elections, and the polls would indicate, yeah, maybe they get them right, but the margins are so off that there's something wrong with their methodology. Well, let's look, let's resume out for a minute and talk about presidential rates since Ronald Reagan in 1984. So we're talking about the last 40 years. You know, there's not been a single presidential candidate who has received more than 53% of the vote. In other words, the polls are always within that 53 to 47 range. That's six points. Well, if you shrink that to 52, 48, that's your margin of error. That's four points. Most of the presidential races fall within a four point margin of error. Very few candidates have even achieved a 53%. So it's incredibly hard for the pollsters to predict who's going to win when every presidential race has been in the last 40 years has been so close, and most of them are within the margin of error. And then, you know, you drill that down to specific states and say, who's going to win a specific state? Okay, well, trumps up, let's say, point four in a swing state like Pennsylvania. Point four means, means nothing. That could literally go either way. It's a statistical impossibility to figure out who's going to win that state. But if you're, if you don't look at it, I, I, like I said, I think they under poll, they under poll Republicans always gives Republicans, even when they're down in the polls, like this sort of optimism or hope or whatever. But right now you look at it, Democrats would, when the Democrats not pulling real well versus the Republican, I think there ought to be some more concern there, but it's almost like it's just like nothing to see here, we're in good shape. And I think Democrats, maybe they are behind the scenes and talk radio, boy, isn't aware of it here, but I would be panicked if I were them a little bit about this election. It may be behind the scenes, but you know, back in 2016, Hillary Clinton's up eight to 10 and all the polls. And then we end up winning. And I think that, as you said, it always gives Republican hope that we still have, even if we're down to polls, still have a chance to win. Well, yeah, you do have a chance. If we were down to polls in 2020 and we didn't plan, I'm not saying there was an election fraud. I think there was a lot of the swing space, but we didn't end up, I mean, Joe Biden is the president today, right? So who knows, Jeff, it's really hard to figure out, I'll tell you my polling strategy on a statewide level. I download the high frequency and I'm going to use a primary, for example, I download the high frequency Republican primary voter list. I scramble the numbers and I upload them to my polling software so that they are randomized, because if you have a candidate in North Alabama versus South Alabama, you don't want to be over sampling one area, because, you know, I mean, you remember this from my auditor's race. One of my opponents is from Mobile. He did incredibly well in Mobile. I'm from North Alabama. I carried North Alabama by large markets. So you got to scramble the phone numbers and I ask people, are you planning to vote? I let them tell me if they're going to vote. I don't assume who's going to vote. I asked them to tell me. The problem is, and then I call through thousands of phone numbers. Yeah, I may call 100,000 phone numbers and get a thousand responses. I found it's a very accurate way. I'm usually within a couple points on predicting these statewide races. You can't do that on a nationwide level, because you can't call, you know, 80 million people and ask them if they're going to vote. It's just too expensive to do. Well, when you look at some of these polls, I mean, what I notice, the trend here for me, if it's a likely voter poll, it's more favorable for the Republican, but I've seen a lot of just adults surveyed or registered voters surveyed. And the methodology of trying to get to that likely voter sample doesn't, I mean, you really see a big difference. You know, can NBC News poll where they survey these registered voters like, well, Kamala Harris is up in whatever battleground state, but then you look at another poll where they like a Quinnipiac or whatever where they do try to go target likely voters, whatever their definition is. And it's a much, much closer race, at least more favorable for the Republican when they do that. Yeah. And who knows what their definition is? You got a question whether or not the polls are trying to give an actor a poll or whether they're trying to push a narrative and a lot of times this far out, the polls are trying to push a narrative that a certain candidate is winning. And then they tighten the polls up by election day. If they know their budget numbers two or three points, they want to take that back out by the week before the election. So then they can tell everybody how accurate the poll was when compared with election day. We have to rely on to us for the last six weeks and you're polling, you know, and we may never know that. But another important thing is to look at the trend, not just the raw number, but what is the trend? Because a lot of times what we see in polling carries through election day. So I remember my primary in 2018, we were polling. I was a 62. I was a 66. I was a 72. The night before the primary, I was a 72, but my trend was sharply, sharply up. Just in the last 10 days before the election, my trend was up 14 points. My trend carried through election day, I got 77%. Whereas if you see more static polling, if you see 53, 54, 52, then you can expect to race the land about there, but the trends oftentimes carry through. So who is trending right at the end? That's another good question is, is Donald Trump, does he move up one and a half points in the national polls in the last 10 days? I think that would speak well to his turnout on election day that he's actually going to win. The other thing I would say about this, and this is I think barring some sort of just seismic October surprise or some kind of event, I mean, natural disaster, terror attack or whatever, if things kind of stay where they are, the way it looks to me is like people are just going to vote. They're feeling on the ground, the conditions on the ground, and in this race, it seems like I think it's going to be less about the personalities. Now, whatever something does happen, you see the numbers shift, but what is sort of the gravity or whatever is bringing everything back down is people's perception of what's going on in their little corner of the world. And if that holds, that's going to favor Trump in these battleground states. Well, people vote their pocketbooks at the end of the day, and they're going to go in there and they're going to view Kamala as part of the Biden administration. She is a part of it. They're going to link those two together. I got to say them a better off than I was four years ago, and I think the answer for most people is going to be no. So, by the way, we're numbed October surprises. I mean, how many October surprises have we had just in this campaign? We had a debate, historically early debate, where Trump goes up against Joe Biden at the end of June, and Joe Biden forgets what he's talking about in the middle of it and declares that he's beat Medicaid. That was seismic. Then we have the Trump assassination attempt, then we have the Democrats swapping a nominee out, then we have another Trump assassination attempt. We are almost so numb to the big news stories. This election cycle has been so crazy. I don't know what could possibly happen. Maybe I'm going to jinx the saying this, but I don't know what could possibly happen this month that would drastically alter the presidential race because so many big things have already happened. Well, I'll say this. I think with Trump, I mean, he's a no commodity. And if you haven't played October surprise card against him at this point, what do they have left? But I think Harris is a relative unknown to a lot of Americans. And I do think that there's the possibility for something there that's meaningful and impactful. It's not like Biden and showing up on stage and just totally laying an egg. I mean, people didn't expect that to happen, but I think there's still a ceiling there for something to happen to her, at least. Yeah, good point. And I'm going to throw you a question. I run a version of old here. But if I got you think that the VP debate is going to have any effect on this race, normally I would say they don't. But I mean, what do you think about tonight? Not really. I don't think so. My opinion on that is really, I didn't think the presidential debates matter. I think we'll talk about them and, you know, maybe even for like a historic reference point or whatever, we'll remember them. But what I would say, I don't know that they make a meaningful, they shift the needle in a meaningful way or not. Now, obviously there's, well, what about the June debate with Biden? Obviously, that was one that mattered, but like that's the exception and not the rule. Yeah, I agree. And I think even more so with the VP debates, we all kind of watch them, we're entertained by them. I'm looking forward to the VP debate, actually, I thought that Kamala probably got the better or Donald Trump in the last debate, not on substance, but on style, I thought she, she outperformed me. No, she spent five days prepping for that debate in her basement. And I think it paid off for. And I'm looking forward to seeing what JD Vance can do. And there's so much good stuff there to expose about governor walls and the crazy radical left to stuff that he's done, you know, but, you know, whether or not this VP debate affects the race. And let's say it just affects the race point four and a couple swing states. That could be huge. There's no way to know it doesn't have to move the numbers much to matter. Andrew always appreciate your insights. We're out of time. But thanks for coming on again. Yeah, good talking with you. Feel there. Andrew Sorrell, our state auditor, they're talking a little polling and presidential politics. Let's get a break here. I'll be right back. This is a Jeff Moore show it. If I talk one oh six five, he said, this is where you get off, boy, cuz I'm going back to Alabama. As I stepped out of that Cadillac, I said, Mr. Many thanks. He said, you don't have to call me, Mr. Mr. The whole world call me. Look about to the Jeff Moore show it. If I'm talking one oh six five, do five one three four three zero one zero six. That's how you get in touch with the program community. That's one to be says the shareholders can sell it. They don't like it. Well, it's not about the shareholders. So it's the it's the corporate management and they don't maybe they just want to invest in Target community notes want to be and they don't want to invest in a socially progressive. I mean, they want to invest in a business, a stated objective of the businesses to maximize profits, not try to change the world. And I think this is in like your mission statement or whatever your paperwork. I mean is, but I'll say this, like I said, I think that maybe you have some language in there about doing good for society. But what's happened in a lot of these corporate boardrooms is they taken that and they made it like taking better society to mean promote left wing politics. And that's sort of where maybe something shareholders need to sell off. But the shareholders need to kind of ask their questions to their next shareholders meeting about that kind of stuff. And maybe it's entirely possible that that's not their wishes and the corporate governance is acting against the shareholders wishes. I'm sorry my phone didn't work quite, but you have no idea what goes on the ports around the country. You think you might, you don't, you need to stick to, I can talk about whatever I want. This is Jeff Portia, I'm telling you, I don't care about what goes on in the ports around the country. I mean, I do care, but it doesn't matter. It's not pertinent to this conversation. The conversation is about the public's perception of what goes on in the ports around the country. And the public's perception is going to guide this policy. Okay. It's a presidential election, it's a red hot political cycle. And you could, you could go and strike at the ports. You can protest the pay, you can protest the automation, you can protest the truck drivers being without anything to ship. But the problem is going to be this perception that you're, you got some strikers who are greedy and you're cutting off the supply chain till Susie, Bobby, mom and dad, et cetera. That's where this is going to hit. I am telling you that you can believe me, or you can reject it, or you can just turn off your radio. We'll be right back. This is the FM. This is Jeff Portia. What I'm talking about. O six, five. From Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach, at all points in between, an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Portia show, I don't think Hank done it this way. Go back to the Jeff Portia show that the talk about a six, five out number three begins right now. Coming up in about 30 minutes, John Wall, the, uh, Alabama Republican party chairman will join us. So please make sure that you stay tuned for that. Oh, let's see here, uh, two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six is the text line. A few things that just kind of reset here. We didn't do this in the last hour, uh, the, I guess US intelligence says that Israel's about to be hit by Iran. I think I ran, I mean, I think Israel's going to strike hard at, at Iran. And this will give them the license to do that. And as somebody is explaining to me, Hezbollah was a proxy for Iran, but they were also part of Iran's national defense to keep Israel in check. Well, in this, in this latest moment right now, Israel has really decimated Hezbollah. They've all but eliminated how Hamas and so these Iranian proxies aren't there. And like I said, they were part of the national defense for Iran. It wasn't just that Iran wanted to be a nuisance. I mean, they do, but the bigger picture was you let these two Palestinian, whatever groups run interference. So watching this right now, uh, Fox CNN and MSNBC are all breaking in and breaking away. Well, MSNBC and CNN are taking a break from Trump bashing to, uh, to take the song. So this is sort of breaking news here. Some other things, the, the, the, the doc strike, uh, get into that morning moment. I see a bunch of text on that. Um, let's see here, we're talking about HB 56, making a comeback. Watch that real close and see if that gets any traction, vice presidential debate tonight. And I think this, uh, North Carolina story and the way the Biden administration has handled this disaster relief, like there are some, there are some Democrat voices really objecting to this criticism and the criticisms from a lot of out there, I don't want to say out there, but a social media, uh, personalities or whatever they are, social media celebrities on the right that the federal government is not responding to Western North Carolina in the way that it should, because it is a Republican voting part of the country. I don't know how to buy that. Uh, I'd say this, I think North Carolina is still a swing state and this whole discussion about the gubernatorial campaign being a drag old Trump, what's going to be even bigger drag on Harris is Biden's response to Western North Carolina and these pictures, uh, these heartbreaking pictures and the cities that are essentially cut off from the outside world. But furthermore, I mean, the national media is not talking about it, but the national media isn't what matters right here. What matters is that local more Carolina media and the way they are handling it, which I think is not going to reflect really well on the Biden administration, because those are your voters. That's impacting their life directly. They're sitting in the dark while the federal government kind of fumbles its response. And that I think has an impact on the status quo, be it Republican or Democrat. And I said, well, as a swing state, that's why this matters. I mean, matters are much more important reasons, but that primarily, uh, Matt, Jeff, you need to go back and listen to your shows. You're all over the place today. One, Beth, you're advocating for unions to speak up for themselves in the next second breath. You're saying complete automation is edible. Man, that's one of the main reasons for the damn strike is to stop this crap. The country does no good putting 40, 50,000 folks on the unemployment line, but businesses don't exist to employ people. They exist to make money. What is hard about this? And I can talk about the both sides of my mouth because I try to like work through this and offer you the perspective of both sides, but we don't have an economy as a jobs program. It's great when they create jobs and they perform a function, but the point is not to create jobs. The point is to create profits in our economy and automation is a necessary evil or even if it's a good to some people, you're missing the point here, 40, 50,000 people are going to get laid off. It's not good in the immediate part of that, but it doesn't bring down the cost of goods and services, but you, you got it. You're wrong about this. You're wrong headed about this. I mean, you're not necessarily wrong about it. These businesses don't exist just to give people a job. I mean, like, that's not like, Oh, it'd be great. I'll start a business so I can employ people. No, you want to make some money at it. That that's the that is the objective here. It's not because it feels good to employ these 50,000 people. They gotta they gotta make a profit. You understand? This isn't like social work. This is a cagey and economics. This isn't the kind of system we have in America. You may not like it and we got to find something else for these people to do. If it comes to that, but, but you're, you're, you're missing the point here and, you know, this is inevitable. These guys are going to go on strike about automation and they're going to have their jobs replaced by automated robots or something. Okay. This is where this is headed. Uh, squirrel, bless my mind, there's any competition at all. Where are the young conservative votes voters? Uh, look around mobility and you'll see nothing but campaign signs for Harris, the Shamari figures and these people claim to be forced into being hidden and such underdog. I will give them credit. They are doing a lot more with the signs and getting out the vote. This is the grand game squirrel, the Harris wall signs in Alabama are, are a bit of a curiosity to me, but, uh, I guess you got to do what you got to do. It's got Jeff, perhaps the October surprise will be the lack of federal response to the folks in Washington, Carolina line men are reporting naked children looking for their parents in the stench of the dead bodies and the media, the national media are covering that the national media are, are doing their, I mean, they were all over New Orleans because there was an obvious political narrative there during Katrina. I'd say this. The other thing about New Orleans, I always saw, or Katrina in general, it was a way for the federal government to move a bunch of taxpayer money out the door. Like there were a lot of people who got rich off of Katrina, unfortunately, and I'm a little curious here, disaster relief, how much money will they try to earmark for that? And will they use, will they let a, not going to let this crisis go to waste, but the difference here is it's the red hot, well, a political election cycle, and maybe that's why they're a little apprehensive to do so, Scott Michael, according to the unions old material, the average stock worker makes $147,000 in annual salary, it puts $35,000 a year in an employee paid healthcare benefit, pensions pay $80,000 a year, salary is well beyond the average American salary of about $43,000 annually. Yeah, I mean, it's just, I'm telling you, it's not a good look. Now they can do what they want to do, they could go on strike and, and, and sometimes it's good to push back against big corporate interest who already have their way with a lot of state and lawmakers or federal officials, but it's hard to paint them in a sympathetic way. Morning, Jeff, do you think Ukraine, Egypt, Pakistan will lend or kill out of some of that cash back to rebuild? We could toll I-40 to the, to Albuquerque. That will help. I don't know about that. I thought you were looking for someone to talk about the strike intermodal, et cetera. And believe it or not, it's hard to find people who can talk about this objectively. They're experts who are pro-union and they're experts who are pro-port. Jerry, Jeff, do you not understand that the port in all roads leaving the port or state fund in the free market argument as well? Point. Well, let's take the free, ignore that I said free market, but it is that these, these things don't exist because they are purely jobs, opportunities. It's great that they do that. That's a, that's the benefit of bringing all these businesses to Alabama is that they will hire people, but the point of these businesses isn't to hire people, it's to produce whatever widgets or move whatever product to market. And it's, it's so wrong headed to think that it is the other way around that that's not why our economy exists to keep people employed. We want to incentivize employment, but to be like, like, look, you don't understand what's going on at the port and all the people that it employees, well, that that's not the problem here. I mean, that's a, it's a very small segment of the overall population. The overall population is going to react to this strike based on how it impacts their life. They're not going to shed tears for the dock worker or the longshoreman. They're, they're just not. They're going to look and say, Hey, that cheap widget that I was buying at Walmart's no longer on the shelves was gifts here. I don't know about food, how much food is imported. I, I think we, we do import food, but it's not like the grocery store shelves are going to go bare. We, we are very good at domestic food production. It was all about bringing that supply chain back to the United States. Now, I think technology is going to take a heavy, that new iPhone you got on back order might be delayed, but I am not saying automation. I, I, I, automation is going to happen. You could try to stand in the way of it. You can protest it in the end automation will prevail. Okay. It may take a little longer, but eventually automation will win the day. Do you think like when you go to Walmart or Publix or whatever and you see the self checkout, there was pushback against that from the, the, the United food, the commercial workers. I mean, because you're taking jobs away from potential members and cashiers or whatever, but now you go into Walmart and they're not unionized, but you go into Walmart and it's just, that's what you see, but that's, that is, that is just sort of the way it's always worked and you think you can organize against this technological development. You make it slow it down for the time mean, but you're not going to eradicate it. These people are always going to look for ways to cut corners. And sometimes that means importing cheap labor from Mexico. What I don't want is the federal government helping them do that. Let's get a break here. We'll be right back. 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