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Chapter Four: The Villages of the Dam
[MUSIC] [NOISE] >> You can't take it, you can't take it, you can't take it. >> [LAUGH] [MUSIC] >> You got to check this out, backhand. >> Oh, that was nice, more, nice, more. Look, you got a little on me. >> You've got a little in my eye. [MUSIC] [CROSSTALK] >> Come on, get into it, just chop a few heads, chop a few heads. >> My horse, Jeremy Mitchell, the horse is covered in blood. >> I'm doing this right now. >> I can, I'm loving this. It's like a dream come true, just got a bunch of old zombies. >> Every summer, five of the night, I love it. >> This is like every video game where you have those levels, you know? Or it's like, all right, this is the column before the storm. >> Like carpentry? >> See, there's any supplies around? >> We find a bunch of ammo were screwed. >> Well, now we have time, let's go. >> Let's go, let's go. >> Here's another wave. By the way, how did Angel get a 9 millimeter pistol? >> I don't know, it's pretty hype though, she's got a better shot than I assume. That's really nice done. >> That's really good. >> I think she's got hollow points in those people are just exploded. >> Yes, it's f*cking ferocious. >> I don't, it's screaming way too easy. >> Like pumpkins. >> Turning them into watermelon. >> Oh my God, all these people coming through. >> I don't know, but I'm having no problem doing this, and then, that's, and then, that's. >> Wait, guys. This is really easy to do, isn't it? >> Yeah, it's the point. >> Wait, where's the person that was in help? I mean, we heard the shots earlier. Anybody? >> See, anything? Anyone in help? >> I don't see anyone. >> Well, nice. Nice to have to. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a bad one, that was a bad one. >> Who's messy? Was that too far? He's all about that. >> Well, that's what you assumed. >> All right, yeah. >> I mean, oh, you got, you got zombie elbow there? >> Yeah, I mean, you got zombie elbow there? >> We gotta find the guy with a girl or the person. >> Okay, so it's definitely a human, I guess. Only humans can shoot guns in your world. >> Yeah, wait a minute, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, that thing. >> What he said. >> Yeah. >> Well, it just seems like it would be a human being. >> Maybe, maybe she wants to. >> I'm from Florida. Everything has guns. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> I'm from Florida. Everything has guns. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> [INAUDIBLE] >> They're all around me. >> They're all around me. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> Really? >> [INAUDIBLE] >> We need to get off of the horses and we need to find this person. Let's get off the horses. Let's get off the horses. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> They're all around me. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> They're all around me. >> They're all around me. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> We need to get off of the horses and we need to find this person. Let's get off the horses. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> [INAUDIBLE] >> Can you keep the door open and I'm gonna do like a cool Indiana Jones slide? >> All right, but you have to leave your hat on the other side. And we need to grab your hat and be really cool. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> [INAUDIBLE] >> [INAUDIBLE] >> My God. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> [INAUDIBLE] >> [INAUDIBLE] >> That was great. >> Memories to have forever. >> You guys are f*cking dicks. You wanted me to die. >> What? >> [INAUDIBLE] >> Do you want me to do the super cool Indiana Jones slide? >> You had to be a trickster. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> All right. >> What is he, Loki? >> [LAUGH] >> All right. So I'm gonna push this thing in front of the door. Let's make sure nobody else goes through the door. >> Yeah. >> Let's just barricade this back. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> All right. >> You know when they do, they put like a chair against the door handle and move. Does that ever work? >> I don't know. >> All right. Everybody let's check to make sure there's no other exits, entrances. >> Good call. >> Let's be smart about that. >> Good call. Good call. >> Is there anything in the back? >> And that door is shut, right? >> Yeah. >> I'm not seeing any windows. I'm not seeing any extra doors. >> Interesting. >> What door is this? What is this? >> Looks like an old convenience store. Yeah, there's some ramen. No, that is not ramen. >> Is that tab? >> I can't pronounce this. Is this check? >> You just did. You just pronounce it. It's check. >> Might as a seat. >> Check Cola. >> Oh, gotcha. Yeah. >> It's pretty easy for them. >> Really moldy. >> She's staying correct. >> Everything looks way icky. >> All of these burritos are moldy. >> Oh, look at all these words in a moldy burrito. >> Guys, I found a, there's a back door, but there's all of these cases of Billy beer in front of it. >> Boom shakalaka. We ain't going anywhere. >> I feel like we shouldn't really leave right now. There's a lot of zombies out there. >> Thank you. >> They are dead. They're coming closer and closer to the building. Let's just duck down and maybe they'll go away on their own. I can't see that well. >> These are zombies. These are definitely zombies. The way their heads just pop right off like Lego characters. It was awesome. >> That was a little -- >> That was so easy, wasn't it? >> Yeah. >> A little too easy. You know what this is reminding me of you guys? >> What does it mean? >> You guys, I've heard of the kala papa settlement. >> I'm sorry. >> What? >> Or the Molokai leper colony. >> Which is it? >> Both. >> Jesus. >> Molokai cocktail? >> Exactly. >> Both. >> Have you guys ever heard of the U.S. state of Hawaii? >> Yeah. >> I think it's the 49th. No, 50. >> 50th. >> Did you know it's one of two U.S. states that were internationally recognized as sovereign nations before becoming U.S. states? >> No, yeah. >> Do you know what the other one is? >> Texas. >> Yeah. >> Well, that's funny. >> First of all, did you know that the oldest islands, that's part of the Hawaii islands of the archipelago of islands, there's about 132 islands. >> What? >> I don't know that. There are only like seven or eight main ones, right, though? >> There are, yeah, about like eight main islands, and they even consider like Midway part of that. >> Which is crazy. >> But yeah, about 132. >> There are some of them like the size of like one man, because it's not a word number >> Super tiny. >> Like the oldest one that's out by Midway, it's estimated to be about 28 million years old. >> Wow. >> And the youngest island, do you know which one that is? >> Well, you're at there's only 6,000 years old, so. >> But which particular island it is in Hawaii? >> Hawaii. >> Hawaii. >> Hawaii. >> It's actually Hawaii, like the big island. >> Big island is the youngest one? >> Yes, the youngest. So if you think about it, like it's a hot spot, and the crust moves over it, and as it like pops up, it creates all these little islands. So like the newest one is like the biggest one, all the other ones have been eroded from ocean. >> Like a big earth is it. >> It's more like an earth pizza, and the bubble on the crust is hot. >> It's a mountain crest, right, and like the islands are the tops. >> Correct, yeah. It's very fascinating. And you feel like you're to look at Hawaii from like East to Western, you know, if you're like Great Hebrew from right to left. It's the biggest ones are like Hawaii, and then it's Maui, and then it's Oahu, and then it's Kauai. Those are like kind of the bigger main islands. But in between Maui and Oahu is the fifth largest Hawaiian island, which is Molokai. So the kingdom of Hawaii was sovereign from 1810 until 1893. And that's when American and European capitalists and landholders overthrew the monarchy. Hawaii's fifth largest island, which is Molokai. It's only 38 miles long, and 10 miles across at its widest. >> Wow. >> And it's home to the highest sea cliffs in the world, 3,000 feet above sea level. >> Wow. >> And such a small little island. And so what they think actually happened geologists thought that the cliffs were carved by wind and water erosion. But then they think that it was formed after a third of the northern portion of the island collapsed into the sea. So it's just this like flat rock face. >> What the hell? >> That's a part that just broke off. >> It just broke off. >> Yeah. >> Cthulhu reclaimed his real estate. >> They're not making land like they used to. >> That's right. >> We need to make more land. >> Thank you. >> In Molokai, there's the Kalau-Papa Peninsula. It remains one of the most remote locations in Hawaii due to this unique volcanic and geologic activity. That's what they're talking about with the sea cliffs and everything. And plus, it's like shark infested waters right there as well. >> Not infested. That's their house. >> That's their home. That's true. >> That's true. >> It's their real estate. >> Yeah. >> Molokai also has a big, still big population of Native Hawaiian ancestry, and they continue to preserve their rural lifestyle, thanks to their love of the land. So the Kalau-Papa Peninsula on the northern coast of Molokai is the current site of Kalau-Wau County, which is actually the smallest county in the U.S. in terms of area size. >> No kidding. >> That's the border for the Kalau-Papa settlement. However, the origins of the settlement are sad and disturbing. >> There it is. I was wondering how it looks like. >> I was wondering. >> This just seems like a nice little history lesson. We normally get something creepy and scary, and there it is. >> The other sandal hystrography. Now we've got to get sad about it. >> Unfortunately, in the 1840s, so this is during the Kingdom of Hawaii, it's still sovereign, an untreatable disease arrived by merchant sailors. And that was leprosy. >> There it is. There it is. >> It became an epidemic, and it was so feared that they thought it would just take down the whole Kingdom of Hawaii. >> Wow. >> Everybody. Just so everyone knows leprosy, if you don't, it's also known as Hansen's disease. >> Really? >> It's a long-term infection by the bacteria, mycobacterium leperae, or mycobacterium leperumatosis. It can lead to the damage of nerves, respiratory tract, skin, and eyes. So the nerve damage can result in a lack of ability to feel pain, neuropathy. >> So you've just fallen off. >> Yeah, it can lead to loss of parts of a person's extremities, because you're getting injuries and, like, rashes and unnoticed wounds and everything, and, you know, just get these infections that your body can't fight off, and you just lose limbs and everything. >> So that's true. >> Like literally bits of your body fall off. >> Yes. >> I always thought dropsy referred to leprosy, but it's actually like, isn't it pleurosis? >> Yeah, it's like a fluid around the heart, but dropsy would be a pretty easy way of describing leprosy. >> Just drop to me. >> Just drop to me. >> That's right. Well, an infected person, they experience muscle weakness and poor eyesight, and the symptoms can begin within a year, but it can live in your system for, like, up to 20 years before you can even show. >> Son of a bitch. >> Any symptoms. >> Yeah. >> Right in the ground, really, really? >> Yeah. >> You don't even know. >> The interesting thing about this, though, it's spread between people, and it's very contagious, but 95% of people who contract it don't develop the disease, so most people are able to have their immune system fight it off. >> So there's carriers. >> It's like HIV positive, but not full-blown AIDS. >> So basically, 95% of people that get leprosy are vectors, and they just spread it around without experiencing the issues. >> It never goes full-blown disease. >> Trash. >> Trash pandas. >> Just hanging around, armadillos and everything, and yeah, picking them up. >> Making them out. >> Yeah. >> To bring them bellies. >> Yeah. >> They're so cute, though. They're adorable tanks. >> Spread is thought to occur through a cough or contact with fluid from the nose or person affected by leprosy, so it can just be as simple as a respiratory drug. Genetic factors, immune function, also play a role in how a person catches it. However, island nations, in isolation, you don't get the exposure, you don't have the immune systems built to fight off these foreign diseases and conditions, and therefore, there's no cures, medication, education, research, and so it just spreads. >> Yeah. In 1866, this is about 25 years since its record of the leprosy was brought to the islands during the reign of Kamehameha, the fifth. The Hawaii legislature passed a law that resulted in the designation of Molokai as the site for a leper colony. So anyone who was affected, seriously affected by it, could be quarantined and just to keep them away from everybody. >> And they've got this 3,000 foot cliffs. >> Yeah. And there was no understanding of what this disease was. They had nothing to combat it with. >> Think about the fear of something like that back in the day because now we have the ability to at least, you know, to identify different issues. >> I agree. >> Just all of a sudden. What happened? Paul's arm fell off. You know what I mean? >> And they're all just hanging out by themselves with the military. >> Hanging out, hanging off. >> Hanging off? Well, yeah. So they knew it was contagious. >> You can't even edit the Wikipedia page. >> They knew it was contagious, but they didn't know what to do about it. There was no antibiotics either. So the establishment of the isolation colony resulted in the displacement of Native Hawaiian communities that had already been living on that peninsula. So it already created all that kind of issue. And then the people who were suspected of having like a skin blemish were processed as like criminals. >> Oh my god. >> They were arrested. They were examined naked by like a group of people. >> Oh yeah. >> And then they were convicted, like actually convicted. And then they were taken to this kalapapa settlement on Malacca Island. And so they couldn't escape because of the 3,000 foot high cliffs. They couldn't swim because of all the sharks and every, it's just treacherous to go out there. And they were basically just left to live in this community, to live out there the rest of their lives. >> Imagine if you're just like a 14 year old, was it really bad acne outbreak? And now you have to like go to a leper colony and be some shut up. And they wouldn't know, they just like, well it looks like it's so good out of here. >> You wouldn't be able to see your family again. >> Yeah, that's the thing. It's like they, you weren't allowed to get any medical support. They had nothing to give them. And it was in this remote area. No one had any resources to bring there. You couldn't like have any further contact with your family. >> Is death like guaranteed with lepercy or is it? >> Pretty much. I mean, you're getting infections that your body can't fight. >> Oh yeah, it just goes septic and just that's it. There was an article they read on the National Institute of Health and they have a quote from a boy that was sent there. And he said, one of the worst things about this illness is what was done to me as a young boy. Now I'm not sure what year this was and when he was taken, but he said, first, I was sent away from my family. That was hard. I was so sad to go to Kalapapa. They told me right out that I would die here, that I would never see my family again. >> Jesus, terrible. >> I heard them say this phrase, something I will never forget. This is your last playlist. This is where you're going to stay and die. >> Metal lead singer vocalist here, like this is your last place. >> That's what they told me. I was a 13-year-old kid. Yeah. So they were remote, forgotten, no access to much fresh water. That was another part of that place. It was just a place just to die. >> And then they don't have any like requel. Can I appeal? No. >> Nothing. You have no law, like you're just thrown out there. You don't-- >> Because they probably had no pathological testing for it. >> They basically considered them legally dead. >> Oh, wow. >> The people with Hansen's disease, which they didn't know, that's what that was at the time, they were exiled to the peninsula and they experienced extreme hardships and isolation, but over time, they built a thriving, remarkable community. >> Yeah, that's great. >> So starting in 1873, so it was a couple years, almost 10 years, there were major improvements because there were the arrival of some missionaries, Father Damien, David Stairs, and his successor, King David Kalauqua. The residents had some relief as these missionaries offered care. So in 1889, they were moved from Kalauwau on the east side of the peninsula to Kalau papa on the western side for a better climate condition. So at least like someone was giving them some energy, let's give them a better like location than this remote rocky terrain with nothing with this beach, you know, part of your last days. >> You have leprosy and sunburn. >> And they at least started-- >> It peels right off, don't worry. >> And the U.S. at least started to look at some sort of research, some scientific attack on leprosy. >> The howlies. >> They couldn't, they couldn't have our island howlies. They couldn't really figure out like a good host to grow the bacteria, like outside of humans and then that's where they figured out the armadillos were the perfect hosts. But then everyone had to wait. This whole community of people had to wait until the 1940s when cell phone drugs were found. >> What? >> To be effective against the disease. But some patients remained confined in the settlement until 1969. >> After Hawaii's already become a state and everything like that, that's crazy. >> So the isolation order was lifted that year. >> That was when they realized antibiotics can cure Hansen's disease. So they were able to get them to these residents and they were cured of this illness. They were told that they would die from alone in this isolation. >> So we just let some bread out, got some mold on it, and now we're saving lives. >> So of course, once there's a cure, and now everyone's kind of like, "Oh, sorry." >> Oh, baby. >> So the government kind of hops in and there's a bunch of things kind of that happen here. >> So during this period, the state of Hawaii enacted laws to establish the peninsula as Kala-Wao County. So they're just kind of, you're it's own county now. >> I mean, it's been inhabited for so many years, right? >> And took steps to ensure that the people who are forcibly isolated would be provided for and allowed to live at Kala-Papa for the rest of their lives. >> Okay. Let's go. >> These reparations. >> At least they're cared for and given the resources and the medicine and everything if they wanted to. So some of it was, some people stayed there and some people kind of made this comment like, they're so deformed that even if they're cured, they don't, they don't get exactly so. >> It was the 60s, you know, free love and all that. >> So they, we're just kind of like, "We'll stay here. I'm glad that we're not going to die." And I'm glad that we're like considered like legal, alive people again. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So we're like, "Oh, we know now." >> Exactly. >> So many years of deliberation and civic input and about the future of Kala-Papa and the rest of the patients and residents, they established the Kala-Papa National Historical Park and the goal of preserving the history and the cultural natural resources of this place. So they turned it into this like, "Ah, we're keeping the environmental aspects of this. Plus, let's take care of these people." So it's like this National Park Colony. It's kind of this National Historical Park and- >> Fun for the kids. Come on. Vacation around the left. >> This is one county and yeah, so it requires an extensive and complex collaboration between multiple governmental agencies that play a role in the activities on the peninsula. >> I would 100% say, "Why are you going in here?" >> Yeah. >> Don't be a dick. >> Yeah, like what you going there for? >> Yeah. >> Just look around and go, "Oh, look at him. Look at her." >> The Department of Health is responsible for the care and treatment of the Hanson's Disease Registry patients. That's what they're called. This includes people forcibly quarantined at Kalau-Pau-Pau prior to the 1969 repeal of the isolation law. So overall, between 1866 when it started in 1969, more than 8,000 people were forcibly exiled to Kalau-Pau-Pau. >> That's crazy. >> That's crazy. >> People in a small area. >> The peak population at 1.8? >> The peak getting smaller, so it's okay. >> Oh boy. Yeah. >> That's good, Jim. >> That's true. >> That's the point for me and ready. One point was about 1,200 people there. As of May 2024, there are eight Kalau-Pau-Pau registry patients living there. >> Wow. >> They're still living there. And they can travel between O'ahu and locations, but for the most part, they stay there. They are taken care of by the Department of Health and they can live there for as long as they would like to, because they have a lot of making up to do for these people being-- >> Yeah. Do you know how old those residents are? >> They don't have the ages or the names of any of these people, but they have to be up there. >> Yeah. At least in their 80s, probably. >> Now that they're all cured. >> No. >> Just figured. >> It's a HRS 326, also designates the county of Kalau-Pau is under the jurisdiction and control of the Department of Health. >> Well, there you go. >> Crazy. >> Well, at least trying to take care of these people that were done so wrong, you know, and-- >> It's a good step, yeah. >> But at the same time, you have to understand when the people are going through that fear, like they're just trying to do anything they can. It's like what happened with COVID, where all of a sudden it's like, okay, we just got to try this. >> Yeah. >> But back then, it was, you know, a lot harsher. >> I'm just saying, we like kind of came in here kind of hot, you know, we didn't really assess the situation. >> Well, you're the fucking zombies. We got sports. >> Yes. >> Well, they were zombies. >> Well, look at them. They're old and going, "Ugh." >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Yeah, they're old. You said they're old. >> They're old and they're going, "Ugh." >> They're gonna pop right off. >> They're bubbling around. >> Yeah. >> That's why I thought maybe they might have lepersy, their heads came off. >> They're really easy. They just know it's modern. >> Get lepersy? That's a lot of lepers. >> Well, I mean, they've already got stuff falling off of you, you know. >> I'm not falling off anyway, is that right? >> Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's kind of their gig, you know. >> Let's take a break and ponder this. >> Okay. >> You are listening to Friends. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] Welcome back to Fort Fritz. I am Fritz. We've got Angela. >> Hello. >> Marie. >> Hello. >> Nick Spry. >> How's it going? >> Coho's bandaddy. >> Hi. >> Who came up with a beautiful idea now that we're stuck in this convenience store. >> It's not very convenient being stuck in a convenience store. >> No, it's an inconvenient store. >> It's an inconvenient store. >> Yeah. >> You should probably run out. >> Let's face it, we're stuck here. It seems like a little calmer outside. There's nothing to eat in here that's not from 1970 nothing. I mean, I've played a lot of video games, so I think it's body loot in time. >> Wait, wait, let's look at the little window. Guys, guys, the crowds, I don't see anybody else. >> See a lot of dead bodies. >> And daddy, did you pile them again? >> I do. I'm sorry. I just tried to knock them that way, you know, and so just tried to get a nice, nice, nice skull pile. >> Guys, a lot of these victims, they don't look like they have leprosy. I'll tell you that much. >> No. >> Because there's zombies. Zombies don't have leprosy. These are just decapitated dead people and they're all wearing... >> Do zombies bleed fresh blood like this? >> Man daddy, look at this. >> Man daddy, look at this head. >> That's a nice head. >> That's a nice head. >> Oh, does this look like a zombie? >> I mean, it's not talking to me. There you go. Slam it. There you go. >> Stop on it like a pumpkin. >> No, I'm not going to do that. I'm just saying you do not have leprosy. >> Guys, that's a nice thing. >> We never said they have leprosy. They're zombies. Zombies have leprosy. That's a totally different thing. >> Man daddy just said, look, a lot of these bodies are wearing hospital gowns. They are. >> Well because I mean, where are you going to put the zombies? But the zombies are hospital. >> So talking about a group of people who are acting crazy that are in hospital gowns. >> Yeah, we got their heads right off. >> Oh, but there's lots of pockets in these gowns. Look, let's see if we can find some stuff. >> Oh, this is a gold pocket watch. >> No. >> I guess you got to know what time it is when it is. >> Yes, you're broken. >> Oh, I got gum. I got some gum. >> Oh, don't chew it. Don't chew it. >> Oh, that's probably not gum. Is it fleshy? >> No. >> Yep. >> There he is. >> Put that out. >> Put that out. I'm getting a bad vibe. And have you all heard of the Tuskegee Experiment? >> Oh, tell me what part. >> The Tuskegee Experiment or the Tuskegee syphilis study. >> What? >> The Tuskegee Experiment began in 1932 at a time when syphilis had no known cure. The U.S. Public Health Service and the CDC choose the Tuskegee Institute in Macon, Alabama to host the study in order to track the full progression of the disease if left untreated. However, the participants who were comprised only of impoverished African-American men were not informed of this. >> Jesus. >> Why only men? >> We'll get to that. >> Okay. >> They have penises. That's true. By definition. >> Checks out. >> These men are lured by the promise of free medical care and free meals on examination days. >> Okay. >> In exchange for families signing mandatory autopsy agreements. >> Oh, they are given free funeral benefits. >> Okay. >> It should be a red flag. >> Yeah. It begins with 600 men, 399 who test positive for syphilis and another 201 who did not. >> It's a whole lot of ****. >> So wait, hold on. How many had it? >> 399. >> It's almost 400. >> Wow. >> Almost 400 out of 600. Informed consent is not collected. Participants are not told that they may have syphilis, but rather that they are being treated for bad blood. Now this is a term used to describe many ailments including actual syphilis, to anemia, to just plain old fatigue. It could be anything. >> I'm just tired. Get in the experiment. >> These men are told initially that the study is to last six months. It ends up turning into the longest non-therapeutic experiment on human beings in medical history. >> Wow. That's a euphemism. >> Non-therapeutic. >> Yeah. >> We're going to torture you. >> Wow. >> The longest single experiment. >> Yeah, longest single ongoing experiment. From the start, it sounds awful. >> Yeesh. >> It could be clear, though, these people had syphilis when they joined the program. >> Yes. >> They weren't the government. >> But they were not told. >> But they were not aware of it. They tested positive, but were not told that they were not. >> Were any given syphilis as part of the program? >> I did not find any information to that effect. Participants are subjected to regular physicals in blood tests. After the guise of special, free treatments using air quotes here, participants are coerced into undergoing extremely painful diagnostic spinal taps. >> Ooh. I've had seven of those. I've had seven spinal taps and they fucking suck. It messes with your fucking head. >> So the doctors were performing those tests for signs of neurosyphilis. Others at the time theorize that Caucasian individuals were more prone to neurosyphilis, which exhibits neurological effects, and that African Americans were more prone to cardiac issues. Instead of receiving medications to treat their illness as promised, the men are given specific mineral supplements, which would have no effect on anything, and placebo pills, as to not disrupt the results of the study. >> So both placebo's. >> Yes, all placebo's. >> This is good. They're good for you. >> Ooh. >> But told it's all medication. By 1943, just a little over 10 years into the study, mind you, was supposed to last six months. >> Oh, thank you. >> Oh, my gosh. It is found that penicillin successfully treats the disease and starts becoming widely available. >> Yeah. >> However, this information was purposefully kept from the participants. >> Oh, no. >> And they continued to suffer the full wrath of automated syphilis. >> Oh, my God. Why? But why? >> 'Cause we're humans and we're vulnerable. >> We got to see what happens. >> Yeah. >> Now let's talk a minute about what syphilis does to you and what these men went through. >> Whoa. >> It's a weird response. >> Most of the men who tested positive in the beginning of the study were already in stage three, which is known as latent syphilis. During this time, you appear to have no symptoms at all, and this can last for several years. If left without treatment, as these men unknowingly were, you have up to a 40% chance of developing tertiary syphilis. >> Okay. >> At this point, many different horrible ailments may appear. Some people develop large tumor-like balls that typically appear under the skin and on your bone or liver. >> Ooh. >> However, they can't pop up anywhere. Many early stories based on characters with a mutated appearance think "Cunchback of Notordong?" are thought to have been based on people who were suffering this kind of syphilis, because it did the same thing. You had these giant bumps under your skin, and it would actually make marks on your bone from the tumors on your bone. >> Quasimodo was a real poonhound. [laughter] >> That's Nick Spry at Footprints.com. [laughter] >> We were all thinking it. >> Nick Spry. >> Now, others will develop more towards cardiac symptoms. In addition to eventual heart failure, individuals can develop aortic aneurysms. In these aneurysms rupture, it can cause massive internal bleeding, which leads to shock and then death. Now, if you don't fall into one of those two categories, you fall into the category where you develop neurological symptoms, which is probably the most well-known. As a disease progresses in this manner, it can cause blindness, dementia, personality changes, delusions, seizures, psychosis, and then death. These individuals are the ones who are said to have gone insane before their end. >> Is this true that -- I was told this so I have no idea if this is true or not, but is it true that it actually erodes your brain? >> Yeah, it actually, like, liquefies your brain? >> Ugh! >> Like shrinks it. >> Ugh! >> During the course of this study, 128 men died, either directly or indirectly, from complications from syphilis. In addition, at least 40 spouses contracted the disease. >> Ugh! >> I do. >> Right. >> They were not told. They had this. >> Yeah. >> And of those, 19 of them passed it to their children during birth. >> Ugh! >> Congenital syphilis, right? >> In case you were wondering, when the disease is passed to a baby during birth, it often results in the developmental skeletal abnormalities. >> Ugh! Like eye issues, too. The physical deformity often very severe. It can lead to a slew of lifelong health issues, including enlarged organs, deafness, blindness, seizures, tremors, and paralysis. And this is assuming the baby even survives the birth. So 19 of those. >> Wow! >> In 1966, Peter Buxton, a public health service, a venereal disease investigator. >> There's, like, 30 years later, right? >> Very specific. >> Yeah, job. >> He's a private dick. >> Oh, my God. >> That's right. >> That's dry. Amazing. >> So he's from San Francisco, and he sends a letter to the national director of the division of venereal diseases, expressing his concerns with the questionable ethics and the morality of the extended study. His concerns go unanswered. And instead, the study gains more support from local divisions to continue until every last original subject had died and been autoped. >> Jesus. >> Every last subject. >> Every last subject. >> 600 people. >> Yes. >> All 600. >> All 600. >> Wow. >> Oh, my God. >> Wow. >> That is so terrible. >> It's hard to even, like, quip on this. >> I know, because, like, how many of them had spouses? So now we jump to 1972. This is 40 years after the start of the experiment. It is still going. >> Wow. >> Are the people running the experiment even alive? >> Yeah. >> Do they pass it along? Like, my son now takes on the scientific studies. >> It's like they pass on the syphilis. >> Talk about getting tenure. >> Yeah. >> They're reading the will. Son of a bitch. >> Syphilis. >> So at this point, the Assistant Secretary for Health and Scientific Affairs appoints an ad hoc advisory panel to review the Tuskegee experiment in full detail. And this is because Peter Buxton couldn't get anything done through the proper channel, so he leaks the story. >> Yeah, he's going to ad hoc too on that thing. >> That was nice. That was nice. I'm sorry. Very current. Very current. Well done. Well done. >> A month later, it was announced that the study was to be shut down, due to it being unethically unjustified. >> Well, after 40 years. >> After 40 years. >> After 40 years. >> That is a shame. >> It was found that the results were disproportionately meager compared to the known risks to the human subjects involved. >> Wow. >> And they discovered that penicillin treats it half after 10 years. >> After 10 years. >> It goes on for another 30 more years and a year. >> Because they wanted to know what happened if it went untreated. So they just let these people live in ignorance bliss and just live out their lives with it. >> Had nothing to do with the race. >> No, not at all. >> I think realize because of this, you can't treat it after a certain point. You can only treat syphilis early on before it reaches the tertiary stage. >> I think you're right. >> I think it gets into the secondary stage. I think if you get into tertiary, that's when there's a point of no wonder. >> What's the timing on that? Because I'm a little worried now. >> Well, three to five years. >> Years? Okay, I'm good. >> In March of 1972, the Tuskegee Health Benefit Program is established to fulfill the order that all surviving participants reside proper in beneficial medical care. And then in 1975, this program is expanded to include the wives, widows and children of any of the participants. Yeah, now later in 1973, a class action lawsuit was filed on behalf of the Tuskegee participants and their families. This resulted in an out-of-court settlement of $10 million. >> Yeah, because they don't want that to go to trial. >> Which, if you're to divide that among the survivors and the individual family members, that's not a lot of money for what how much was it? >> No, $10 million. >> For how many people? >> And it was, well, at least 600 plus other family partners. >> Plus family partners. >> Yeah. >> As only to the survivors, it didn't go to the family members of the deceased, all right? So you're already leaving those people out. >> No, America. >> Yeah. >> That's a no. >> Two stories on a row of people just retro act, like after the fact being like, what's we **** up? Sorry about that. >> So that effect, apparently this particular experiment was to African Americans only because apparently Switzerland had done one with white Caucasian males. >> Okay. >> So they were trying to see what the differences were between the races. >> Okay. >> How true that is. >> It could just be trying to backpedal after the effect. >> Yeah, and the Swiss don't have Nazi gold either, not at all. >> So in 1974, Congress passes the National Research Act to study and write regulations for human participant medical experiments, finally. Due to this, studies now require informed consent, communication of diagnosis, an accurate reporting of any and all test results. >> It only took all of human existence up until 50 years ago for them to make that law. >> Yeah. >> For them to do this. >> How? I like the accurate reporting. It's like, just now we decide that that's important. >> Yeah, that's it. >> What the hell? >> You should actually let people know what's going on. >> What's the point of all this? If you don't want to-- >> No, I do. I got a lot of this information from the CDC website. They do not try to hide that they did this. >> All right. >> Now, it's up to 1997. President Clinton issues a formal presidential apology stating that the experiment was clearly racist and that the United States government did something that was wrong, deeply profoundly and morally wrong. He says that the study used men who were poor and African American without resources and with few alternatives. They believed they had found hope when they were offered free medical care by the United States public health service. They were betrayed. The last participant of the study died in January of 2004. >> Ugh. >> Ugh. That's so sad. >> It's just there's always this response to we have a problem. Who are the most impoverished people that we can use to experiment on? It's always-- it's never like, okay, everybody just line up, we'll figure out, no, we're just-- we're going to find people that-- >> They take advantage of people who have no other options. >> Yeah. That's-- it's just-- >> And then are withheld all the appropriate information. >> Mm-hmm. >> You know, like the exact opposite of the Molokai leper colony Hawaiian Island is that they put everyone who had it on an island so that they were safe from giving this disease to other people. The Tuskegee experiment did the exact opposite. >> Just think about it. So-- >> In a major population. >> The irresponsibility of that is the same. >> Well, that's-- >> That's the exact opposite of the Molokai leper colony. >> They say that 40 spouses got it, but what about people who had extramarital affairs or were single and then got married after the fact? I mean, how far did this be married? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Some of us can have no symptoms, too. >> And that's-- and most of these people were all late in when they went in, so they had no symptoms. >> Oh, my God. Wow. >> Wow. >> And just the fact they're like, okay, these are people, we can do this, too. >> Yeah, what about that? >> That's the way the government looked at it. We can do this to you because what are you going to do? >> Yeah. No power. >> And what about these children that were born into it and not having any idea? >> Ah. >> And for the rest of their lives, they will suffer from this, but it's okay. Ten million dollars should cover it for the rest of their lives. >> Oh, yeah, that would be fine. >> Totally fine. >> That's not even an F1 person. >> And an apology. >> You know what? I'm not going to apologize for taking these shoes off this corpse. >> Those are not shoes. That's a corpse. They're not going to use shoes. >> No, no, no, no, no. What if he's got syphilis? >> Just put him on. >> I'm not going to get through-- you're not going to get syphilis. >> You're not going to get syphilis. >> I'm not going to get left with you. >> You're not going to get left with how that works. >> Watch out. >> All right. >> There's a bunch of dead bodies we got looting to do. We got to get stuff, we got to get some supplies. >> What? >> No, no, no. So distracted by the sadness that-- >> We killed them all. We killed them all. >> People lumbering in the distance. >> Well, they are lumbering. >> That is-- >> They are moaning. >> That's some lumbering right there. >> Come back. >> We're the horses, though. The horses are gone. >> They're gone. >> I think I have to get a dodge. >> Why do we not tie them up? >> Why do we not tie them up? Why not? >> Because-- >> You told us to get off the horses. >> I know it. >> I got knocked off. >> I'm saying-- >> All right, all right, everybody stop arguing. Let's play. What is our next course? >> I don't know. >> Grab your sword. >> You're getting closer. >> Yeah, grab your swords. If anyone has guns-- >> Got my pick up on wrapping. >> We got you ready. >> They're forming a wave. They're cresting. >> What? Zombie wave going on. I don't understand this. >> That's what it appears to me and it's getting closer. >> No, no, no, no. >> I got double swords. I'm drooling, maybe. >> That's enough time to take a break and figure this out. >> That's important to do. >> Okay. >> Take a break after our thoughts. >> Yeah. >> Come back. >> Come back. >> Come back. >> We are in front of a convenience so we got to figure out-- >> It's an inconvenience. >> Quickly, map where we think these streets are about to go. And then let's come back and then let's execute that plan. All right? >> Okay. >> You're listening. >> You're listening to Fort Fritz. >> Maps. [ Music ] >> Welcome back to Fort Fritz. We are certainly finding ourselves surrounded by zombies on Fritz, by the way. We've got co-host, Mandy. >> Hi. >> Marie. >> Hey. >> Angela. >> Yo. >> And Nick's Brad. >> Let's get out of here. >> Let's get out of here. >> Yeah, let's get out of here. >> Why are we wasting time? What's going on? >> Oh, my God. >> Take a break. I don't want my swords. Now I only have my bow stuff. >> I don't have my bow stuff. >> Let's figure lead if we just left. There's a lot more coming than we went through before. >> Yeah. >> Quickly, quick, quick. There's got to be hundreds and hundreds of these zombies. >> I see one, two, three, four. >> One, two, three, four, I see four rungs. >> My back to you guys. You guys run. I'm going to fend them off. >> All right. >> Why do you think you can do this? >> I have no idea, but it's hilarious. >> Too scary. I tried, though. We appreciate that. That was really heroic. That thought was nice. >> A dead end. A dead end. >> No, we do not need to be trapped by these zombies. >> No, no, no, hold on. There's got to be a way out of this. >> No, it's a brick wall. >> It's a brick wall. >> It's a brick wall. It's very hard. >> My upper body's right now. >> My upper body's right now. >> How do you scale? >> I don't know, man. There's boxes. There's cardboard boxes. >> Wait, hold on. Let's all try to get inside of them and make -- no. >> No, no. >> I think Nick peed in those. >> Guys, I think this is the end. >> No. >> The end. >> The end. >> There's hundreds of zombies headed right towards us. You know? I'm just going to enjoy one. >> One last cigarette here. >> That's not a joint? Why? Why don't you go with the joint? >> Wait, Daddy. Let me just enjoy this. >> Okay. >> I feel eerily calm, but inside I am freaking the fuck out. >> That's pretty much your character sketch. >> Nick, if this really is the end, can I get a drag of that cigarette? >> No. >> All right. >> Did you just have one? >> That's it. >> Wow. >> For the smell lucky. >> You kept it ready. >> Hey, guys. >> You guys are closing in. >> I'm heavily, heavily freaking out. This alleyway is very narrow. Do you guys know about the phenomenon of crowd crushes and humorist and peeds? >> What? >> Oh. Crowd surges, crowd crushes, collapses and human stampedes. All of these phenomena might sound the same, and they do happen quite frequently, simultaneously. But while similar, they have stark differences, equally scary and equally deadly. So let's start by clarifying between them, and then we'll go into specific documented examples. The commonality between these occurrences is in the density of any gathering of people and the increase of danger as one's personal space is exponentially diminished. >> Gotcha. >> Think about this. So an average human body occupies about an area of two square feet or one foot by two feet. Taking an objective look at the space of one square meter approximately three feet by three feet. Two people can move in this space freely without making physical contact. And as the number of individuals increase within the same square meter, the risk increases as well until about five persons occupying one square meter. >> That's too much. >> Things become dangerous, and the ability to move becomes restricted and at even higher densities, people's bodies press into one another, and the individual's ability to move is arrested. >> I would imagine also breathing, right? Like the space to exactly your diaphragm expand. >> Like being in an '80s concert in the pit. >> Warped? >> What up, son? >> Your feet get picked up and you don't have no idea where you're going. >> You're not standing anymore. You're riding the way the people. >> I mean, most of the widely reported instances of this actually happen at concerts and other events like that. At these numbers, the throng of bodies starts to take on the properties inherent in fluid dynamics. It becomes like water, like Bruce Lee. >> Oh, yeah. >> So with any force creating a ripple or a shockwave effect, as it passes kinetic energy from one body to another body, and even greater densities, individuals can die from sheer pressure on them or from asphyxiation. >> Oh, yeah. >> We're just meat sacks. >> Yeah. >> Meat sacks, milk, water. >> Very fallout for water snakes. >> Yeah. >> So a crowd collapse. This can only occur at these kinds of density numbers, but it's not dependent upon whether or not the mass of people is stationary or if they're moving in synchronous, you know, running, walking, all at the same pace. And since at this point, personal movement is impossible. There are stories of people literally being lifted up off their feet and subjected to the mercurial nature of a mob of bodies. >> Yeah. >> We've all been there. >> Yeah. >> We've definitely been there. >> If a single person were to lose footing in fall, the gap or void created by the absence of their body maintaining equally distributed pressure on all sides makes a hole that the surrounding bodies have to fill. >> Have to fill. >> They seek to fill. >> Yeah. >> And they cause the bodies to fall. So, coincentrically inward in circles. Liking it to something like a sinkhole sped away the fuck up. >> Away. >> Yeah. A domino effect of falling inward until the pressure is weakened as it travels further away from the point of origin. Bodies upon bodies falling inwards and on top of each other, mounting the weight over these people underneath, depleting their oxygen at the very bottom. >> Oh my god. What a treacherous weight to go, man. >> That is not how I want to go. >> So, not only can this massive bodies lead to suffocation from lack of oxygen, but it also, from the inability to move your lungs, to take in more air, you can asphyxiate. >> Yeah. >> Just a pressure. >> That's a crowd class. A crowd crush or a crowd surge, as it's often called, takes place when a crowd's density increases to something like 10 people per square meter. >> Wow. >> It becomes compressed to the point that the literal crushing of rib pages and bodies occur or the previously mentioned asphyxiation due to the complete immobilization. This happens while the crowd is still upright. >> Well, that's rock or roll. >> Yeah, I think that was a shell sewer scene, so instead of the crowd collapsing in upon itself, if the individuals fall underfoot, these people are often literally trampled to death by the moving force, the surge immediately flowing over the crowd and into the void created. And this is most deadly when a large body of people moving together quickly from a large space into a narrow or smaller space. Just like this alley. >> Well, you didn't have to make it cool, man. Come on. >> So, liking it to like, think about pouring a liquid very quickly into a funnel, so the funnel may not be able to expel the liquid fast enough and the cone fills up quickly until it overflows. And if that liquid is human beings in this analogy, and there's nowhere for the bodies to overflow, and there's some kind of barrier or doorway there, those bodies at the front, they're literally crushed by the oncoming force. Crowd fresher is measured in kilonewtons per meter, and it can be measured by implementing on purpose a linear barrier against the crowd. To give context, this answer was AI generated, so that's where the weird comparison comes in. >> I love it. >> And I don't know if that means kicked, or run into like a linebacker, being hit by a small horse measures an approximate pressure of 2.67 kilonewtons per meter. >> What? >> A small horse. >> A small horse. Like a, you know, like a shitland podium. Guys, I'm thinking. >> Get rid of it, boss. Pit! Come on, man. That's, that's chump numbers. Come on. >> Small horse is just not Clydesdale. >> I guess so. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> A little Sebastian. >> A little Sebastian. >> Another source says that a force of over 1,000 pounds at a time is released by crowd pressure. >> Wow. >> A recent famous example of this happened in Seoul, South Korean 2022. >> Oh, yeah. >> This occurred during a Halloween festival. Yes, points. >> Oh, yeah. >> Rough. >> I don't speak Korean. In the Itaewan neighborhood, part of the Yonasun district in Seoul, at 10.20 p.m. in the evening, the area is known for its knife life. It hosts a score of disco texts, restaurants, and bars. And the popularity of this Halloween celebration dates back to 2010, and it was gaining steam for the next dozen years until this tragic incident. There were concerns over public safety that had been mounting with behavioral experts even weighing in that a tragedy was inevitable to anyone willing to survey the area and observe the nature of the event. Authorities took no action in preparation for such an instant. >> I don't think they could have. Like, everything was built so close together. >> Yeah. In fact, the event was grossly understaffed, with only 137 police officers stationed on duty to deal with a crowd of over 100,000 people. >> Jesus. >> What? >> Yeah. >> Was Nancy Pelosi in control? >> Oh, my gosh. >> And this is despite the local police having had requested additional backup four days prior to the event. >> Oh, wow. >> This was also the first time since the COVID-19 outbreak that the Halloween celebration was held without any restrictions. No masks. No social distancing. >> So people just forgot how to beat people. >> Yeah. >> And a crowd of predominantly teenagers in 20-somethings poured into the site ready to party. The area in question was surrounded by narrow streets and alleys, with little or no means to escape a sudden surge of people. The exact street where the crush occurred is about 150 feet long and at its narrowest point, only 10 feet wide. >> Wow. >> Again, 100,000 people. >> That is a very old city road. So the street also has an upward slope which would cause the crowd to literally fall back upon itself in addition to a temporary wall that had been erected, which would actually impede emergency responders from reaching the victims. Again, 100,000 people, the exact time of the crush is debated with multiple reports listing different times. The cause is also well known, but there was an attendee that says that there was a group of young men pushing others until the falling began. One hundred and fifty-nine people were killed in the push. >> Wow. >> With another, one hundred and ninety-seven others injured. A witness, a lot of critical injuries. A witness recalls a pile of human bodies, 15 feet deep at its apex, they said. >> Wow. >> Yeah. >> And this is a quote. It was a long time for people stuck in there not to breathe. >> Yeah. >> The most messed up thing about all of this, too, is it was Halloween. >> Yeah. >> They were wearing costumes. >> Yeah. >> So if some costumes, like, you know, you can't walk very well, you're done. >> Like extra appendages sticking out. >> And with the breast, you can't breathe. >> Or take a little bit of something. >> Yeah. >> You're already wearing too much. You're wearing more clothes than you normally wear. >> Unless you dress like a, like, a slutty nurse or a slutty plumber. >> You saw me last year? >> Yeah. >> The fact that they're normally wearing more outfits or anything and they're having the inability to breathe. >> Yeah. >> That just, that adds so much horror to it. >> There is video footage. >> Oh. >> The crush. And it shows hundreds of people piled on top of one another, layer upon layer, trapping those beneath as much as five to six bodies on top of one. And of course, you know, after the accident happened, the Korean government passed the buck off. They held many of the officers there responsible, and they were dismissed. You know, it was just, it all comes down to planning and crowding. >> Yeah. Really quickly, you can't change a 10 degree slope in a road, and you can't change that it gets 10 feet wide. >> Right. >> Just have the festival in a field. >> And it was right next to a subway. >> Mm-hmm. >> It was right around the corner from a subway exit. >> Yes. >> Come on. >> So let's move on to human stampedes. Stampedes are defined as a sudden panicked rush of a number of horses, cattle, or other animals, or the cause to run away and headlong panic, or to cause a group to act on sudden or rash impulse. Usually, the word stampede is not associated with humans, and it has a deeply negative connotation, unless it's associated with Dolly Parton's Dixie Stampede. >> Oh, nice. >> Yeah. >> You lead Dolly out in this year's American treasure. >> We needed the levity. >> So basically, a large group of people are trying to get away from a threat or some kind of, or what is perceived as imminent danger. The biggest difference in a stampede and crowd collapse and crushes, even though, like I said, they occur together quite often, is the amount of individual space allows for room to move quickly and away from danger, perceived or not. It takes a second to stress how little is known about what actually happens during all of these occurrences, because it's tough to study a phenomena that is by definition both spontaneous and deadly. Again, trampling of our people is not typically the main cause of death in these stampedes, but the inevitable pile-up causing asphystiation remains the top killer. The deadliest human stampede in human history occurred in 2015 in Mina, Mecha, Saudi Arabia, with a death toll of 2,431 lives. The annual Muslim tradition of Hajj pilgrimage to the Holy City of Mecha is a once-in-a-lifetime duty for the Devout of Faith. In addition to traveling to the city, the journey involves multiple rituals to be strictly adhered to, and one of those, the "stoning of the devil" which is sort of a symbolic reenactment of the actions of Abraham, involves throwing stones at three pillars, these represent statin, and this happens at the Gemerat Bridge in Mina. The event is heavily attended and very, very strictly scheduled. Yeah, there's like agencies that will bring or bust pilgrims to the semester. That's so strange, the regulation of religion. Well, these agencies actually take the time to, okay, how many people? We're gonna have 600 meals, right? They actually feed them. So on that day, September 24, 2015, at 9 a.m. approximately Mecha time, and this is according to an official at a press conference held that day, a scheduling error occurred, and two opposite groups of pilgrims were allowed to converge on the small road that leads to the Gemerat Bridge at the same time, causing immediate, intense overcrowding. Oh my god, dear. And propelling the situation into the realm of danger as the area was pushed to overcapacity. Potentially one billion people could be going to this. It could be. Very religiously involved. Very religiously, I mean, this is not something like going to see a concert. This is something that is challenging inside. Yeah, there's a lot of meaning and intent. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is not the first disaster to haunt the practice of the Hajj. Over the past 35 years, at least nine instances with a death toll of almost 5,000 people with thunderous, more injured. Oh my god. At what point do you make some sort of regulation change? That's... How can you tell people to not practice their religion in a certain way? But you have to make a mecha saying that you're going to put regulations on your god. You can do that. That's... Well, it's Christianity, but I'll film. I don't know that Vatican has, like, lines outside. They figured it out. Yeah. I'm just like, you can still practice, but do it in a better, like, a more organized way. But it's their god. But I do think, like, people with all of that passion in a group that just becomes this, like... Further. Yeah, everyone just, yeah. It just becomes heated. It just, there's... You lose all of it, really. Inside of yourself. And when you find other people that are like, "Okay, I believe what you believe." And then the more and more it happens, regardless of how it affects other people, becomes an energy. Yeah. Especially if you know people going on a certain day, you're going to go with them. Yeah, yeah. So there's actually an article in Scientific American called, quote, "What to do if you're trapped in a surging crowd?" And, quote. Oh, boy. I don't know whether that's funny. Yeah, by Daniel Leonard. It was to me. So they're interviewing people who are experts in disaster and emergency management and health and safety of crowd management. But they basically say that if you're caught in this situation, go with the flow, but it's best to avoid the crowd in the first place. But if you are trapped in a stampede, don't try to fight against it. You should move with it. That's like your rip current. And off to the side. Yes, you want to move forward and lateral at the same time in order to escape it. And cut out of the path of a tornado. Yeah. And if that means trampling over bodies, you can trample over those bodies. Get out, man. Get out. But that's easy. You know? It happens so often that a lot of these incidents aren't widely covered. You don't see it a lot on the news, except for the really big ones. But that's why I think that we need to do something. And I don't-- I don't know what to do, guys. I think this is the end. Look at this. We're going to be fine. We got swords. We got a little people. We got-- we got decapitation going on. We're good. There's just our last stand. So sorry that I wanted to make money by owning this fort. Take it over this fort. I don't want to cut you guys. Don't blame yourself. Don't blame yourself. Don't blame yourself. No. No. No. Guys, I'm so sorry. It's okay. But now I think it's time. It's been 12. I am here with fate. Let's just give it up. I'm too old to die this young. Yeah, it's true. I think it's alright. There's more of me. Welcome, Marie. You get your crazy end. What happened? An angel is going to be in quite a thousand more. Yeah. All this, guys. What is-- oh my god. What is that? Do you get that? Does that sound good? That sounds like-- wait, the gun's coming? What? That's why we heard this. Guys! Your pocket is cloudy. Just gosh, yo. Who the hell is that? Stop that. Stop that. Hang on. I know who that is. You don't? I'm done. Alright, great. Hello. Is this Hans? Hello. Hans is the alpha wolf. Oh, hi, man. Jesus. Is this his eye? Is his eye Hans the alpha wolf? For listeners new to the fort, Hans the alpha wolf was a character that we had many years ago. You're a character. No, you're a character. Oh, no. What are you doing here? What are you doing here? My client is just my client. Well, we are stuck. We are going to be emaciated by zombies right now. Why? It's fighting. It's a horde of zombies. Yeah. Like we heard gunfire. We excited. We had horses. We had swords. We decided to kill a bunch of these zombies. And then we're stuck in this alley. Thank god. You showed up because now they kind of seem to be backing away from us now. Wait. Hold on. I had to burst your bottle. But those were not zombies. What? Uh oh. What? Their heads popped right off really cleanly and easily. Yeah. And all the zombies do. Take a bit of a look around at the neighborhood that you're in. Oh, god. See all the little multicolored wolfers. Yeah. All right. All right. I mean, all the zombies do. They have cool houses. The people's out courts off to your left. A lot of pickleball. A lot of pickleball. Geez. Geez. He's got a mean pickleball here. Oh my god. The 24-hour bar with lots of free condoms on the bar. That seems like Kingswood. That's where I want to live. Come on, check out the condom bar. Is that Andy Magic? Wait for it, Brits. It's your old pal, Andy Magic. Welcome to the village. Oh my god. What did you do? All right. Let me just break it through you. So this is actually a retirement commute. Oh my god. No. No. No, no, no. Wait. Hold on. They all seemed like they had zombieism though. Yeah. Yeah. They were like old and go, no, no. Yeah. Yeah. They were bubbling around and they were non-verb. I knew it. Oh, guys. They were weird about that. Well the guy I mean that they should go ughhh and have their heads pop off so you know. Frankly you guys committed a lot of what how you say how do you say the killing of innocence? Oh my god no that you've been in the translation for right now no no no you got this wrong. You make the murders? No the mother was not murders or zombies their heads popped right off this is not a murder thing this is just like you know doing what humans do. I need to get rid of this gun homicide. You got the way to do it. You got the way to do it. That's what homicide that's what homicide. Like the like the American 11th of Baltimore cops your homicide life on the street. Oh my god just so I get this right. You're telling me that? Oh he's gonna take it in front. Why are they walking away from us? Why are they not afraid of you? They are just dudes they're just friendly people. They only want to do is retire. Look how long is it since we've seen you? Oh it's been a while. I think a proper introduction is it? Okay so let me tell you a little story about cons. Oh this is Marie Marie Hans. Very charming. Just watch out. So it's been about five years. Five years in each other? Right? Yeah yeah yeah. Okay so that's like you know 35 years in the dog year. Oh my god. Oh my god. That's how you look at the time. So I decided to settle down. I found myself a nice she was bronchilda. Rooster. Rooster. Rooster. It's my beautiful wife. She's a really you know swill. She will find like too freak. Oh wow. And we had ourselves a litter of pops. Oh yeah. That's awesome. We decided to settle down and get a place of our own. And we didn't want to miss the boat. So if you're interested in getting your own home, why don't you go to that mortgage guide dump. You know if you have any questions about poor ownership buying or selling from everything from refinancing and hillock loads, look no further than that mortgage guide dump. 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Look, most of my background is in sweet techno music. So like these weren't zombies. And they were real people? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Zombies were real people at one point. I don't know how I feel about this. Hans, you gotta do us a solid man and you gotta cover this up for us. Well, how corrupt are you as a 35 year old Hans the Alpha Wolf? Well, you know, I am sort of like the unofficial mayor of this village. You have voted in? Congrats. Many, many hats, hats to the world. You know, like I am sort of the sheriff and the guns. It's also the only thing these people can hear, so I use them back them up. You have a lot of pull here then. I have lots of pull. I feed them too. I'm like the head chef. See these troughs here? You do give him troughs? You're a chef that gives troughs? You might not have though, or missing third petite was weapons. It was just, you know, sports. You know, cutlery. The sports can be deadly. Do not f*** with sports, man. Those things could take your eye out. I gotta be liable. I gotta be honest, I saw a lot of silverware in their hands and I thought they might be knives. They were just like really, you know, zombies that like eat continental style. See, they're butter knives. They were just hungry. If I remember correctly. Oh yeah, they love all the rolls with the butter, extra water. Yeah, who doesn't? Guys, we have trucks of conclusions here. We messed up. Guys, I told you. Let me say that. I have a question for you. Sure. Did you do a head count? I mean, of the heads I removed, 38. Jeez! We're just gonna forget that happened. No! Delete that for it. So, it might take a bit of vinegar. I'm gonna have to spin the s*** out of this to make us wing with it. Yeah, right, yeah. We gotta get you guys out of here on the cover, out of sight, at fast before the mood turns before they realize that they are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's do that, man. Can you do this? Yes, let me dump some troughs full of the food that means that might be the... You have a foodie given to these people. I mean, troughs. That was very steak. That was very steak. That was very steak. That was very sauce. That was very steak made out of steak. That's steak. It's kind of worth a pack to cover these sauce. Humbugger. Not gentlemen. Just say. I like it. What, guys, do I have a secret? Yeah, come on. Yeah, yeah. To get you out of here. All right, guys, so if you just follow me, we will go out of the alley. We're going to bang all right. And we're going to see... On to the whole thing. Yes. Let's just walk this way. So, we come behind this telephone booth. Oh. Man, daddy. No, I'm not going to hold you. So, this is the U6 panel, all right? U6? Okay, yeah. They should take you right to the basement of the chicken joint you love and love so much. All right, chicken joy be awesome right now. I'm so hungry. Seriously. Seriously. We're selling all those innocent people, man. All the villages... The villages don't like anything with bones on it, so... We're in the villages, oh my god. This makes so much more sh*t. Done f*cked up, man. Guys, I'm going to take this black loop. Let's see where the night takes. Oh, no. We open for black looping. Are we ever going to come back? Oh, they are finishing the sun's very sticky. Oh, my gosh, man. You must free. Flying my nigga. That's right. I'll stay the same. Bye, Hans. Oh, again. Oh, stand up, mayor. Yeah. These residents should be very, very happy they have. I know it's what he's doing. Yeah. All right. Well, we got to get into the sewer. Okay. Let me get it. How many sewers have you been in over the years? You are very strong. Can you just gank this off of us? All right. Let me grab it with the two hands, bend with lower back, and... Sh*t. Twisting. Well, look at the backing. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. That sounds great. Guys, guys, I got this. Hold on. You got this. Wait, wait. It just kind of... Give him some natties. It sounds amazing. All right. We're good. We've got it. Well, f*ck you. Marie made that look really easy-mandated, I don't know. Yeah, it really is. All right. Hey, all of you. Talk about the leverage. Give him some nattie. Oh, there you go. So we just go down this tunnel to the chicken joint, I guess? Yeah, I guess so. I mean, it only has a direction. It has a little different level. Well, you said it goes to the basement, so I guess we just go there? Yeah, must be kind of like a flood over flow. It's like a speakeasy for chicken. He's not going to steer us wrong, right? Guys. He did just cover up our horrendous crime. Guys, guys, look back at that crowd. That's not pretty. A lot of dead people, a lot of headless people. Raise your hand if you would kill them all over again. Oh, all day. All day. I did that instinctively. I didn't even mean to raise it. I've been trying to throw their heads back on so I can chop them off again. I mean, I just, you know, I have a hobby. That's no life. Well, that's no life. I'm hungry. All right. 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