[Music] Welcome to Drinking Bros. Presented by GhostBed.com [Music] Sit back, relax, and grab a fucking drink. [Music] Yeah, welcome to Drinking Bros. Kids, late night edition over here at the old Tetherball Academy Media Studios. Got a vice presidential debate tonight. Anthony on the heels of potentially World War III. How's that Randu on over there? Like good or no? They seem angry today. Yeah, they had to do something, isn't it weird? So think about this for a moment. Nasrallah gets killed and they launch 200 rockets into Tel Aviv. And the only person that died from any of that was one poor Jordanian guy who got hit by an empty shell after he got shot down by the Iron Dome. Is that what it was? Yeah. 'Cause as I was watching it today, Twitter will give you different stories. So it was trending throughout most of the day that the Iron Dome was down and it wasn't working. Is that not true? It didn't catch everything that came through. I don't know, there was, who knows what went on there. But it's odd that they fired that many, oh boy, that's gone, the Braves are gonna lose. So it's odd that they fired that many and nobody, how is that pot, Tel Aviv is a fucking city. It's huge. You know what I mean? Yeah. And nobody died from any of those strikes. Now they said they were targeting air bases of Israel believe. It kind of reminds you when Soleimani died. Yeah. And then they fired a bunch of shit at US bases but didn't actually hurt anybody. But here's the thing, with Israel, they fight back. Did they not strike Iran here? I think Iran did the same thing they did in 2021. Okay. Call Israel, just like they called President Trump in 2021. I talked to a guy this weekend, it was in the room and that call happened. And they told him straight up, hey, we're gonna fucking, we gotta retaliate. So here's where we're gonna fire him. Don't have to make sure nobody's there. That's what it seems like to me. There's no way you can fire 20 goddamn ballistic missiles at a city and not kill anybody. Yeah, look, in my opinion, if they didn't make that call, I think Israel now has open season to go after. I ran the way they really want to. Right now they've been strategic about it. They picked off leaders within their country and then Lebanon and everywhere else. Now you can go bombs away and say, fuck you. I don't give a shit. So if that call did not happen, I think Iran can do whatever they want. Now the scary part for me is, I don't want to see either of these motherfuckers in the White House coming up, if we do end up going to war with Israel. If this happens. Because Kamala and fucking Walls, which we'll see tonight, aren't the ones that I want in there if a fucking war breaks out right now? No, I mean, look, there's, so, this will be, the debate will be very interesting because Walls is a fucking retard. I don't even think about him that much. But Vance has got to kind of walk a tightrope here because AIPAC is going to want him to say one thing. And they are, that entire organization should be dissolved, first of all, and everybody involved in it should be arrested for foreign influence, for not registering as a foreign agent, right? Because that's what they are. Israel's not America, right? So are you saying Vance has to support Israel tonight? And the other side of it is the anti-war, right? All of the libertarian people that are voting for Trump Vance, or at least saying they're going to, don't want to be involved in any of this bullshit, right? So he can't just be like, he can't do what most of Republicans are doing right now, pray for Israel, support Israel, blah, blah, blah, right? It's got to be a nuanced response to that situation. And one would imagine it will come up tonight, right? It's unavoidable. Yeah, yeah, I mean, here's the issue. The APAC people are what they are, and he's, I don't know if he's going to buck them or not, frankly, I don't know what he's going to say about that, about Israel. I mean, the smart thing would be like, hey, we shouldn't be spending any money. Now, the US shot down seven rockets, or missiles rather, they came out of Iran, that cost US taxpayers about $100 million today. Oh, great, great. We also have the DRF-1, Division Ready Force-1 and the 82nd Airborne is on standby orders right now to go to the Middle East. That's also not great. Now, the other side is the anti-war right, who, if you go on Twitter today, you'll see post after post, Iran is not our enemy. Iran is not a threat to the United States. Iran is not our enemy, blah, blah, blah. That's fucking stupid. The people saying that are not smart people. I agree. Well, they're smart people. I'll take that back. Smart people are saying dumb shit right now. Iran is our enemy. Iran's 100% our enemy, yes. And they're not just our enemy, it's their America's enemy. They are all of Europe's enemy as well. Forget about Israel. I don't give up. This has nothing to do with Israel, as a matter of fact. It has to do with China, India, Europe, and the United States because Iran is using Chinese funding to pay Houthi rebels to attack US shipping vessels. And there is a measurable effect from this. This is affecting our economy right now. And one of the most tenuous economies we've ever had in the history of this country. In 2019, insurance companies like Lloyd's of London were ensuring $150 million worth of cargo on the Suez Canal every single day. As of this month, they're ensuring about $50 million a day. They've effectively this little shit hole Iran that's completely a non-player on the international stage in most ways now, or they were during the Trump administration have cut global trade of goods by two-thirds in their region. That cannot be tolerated. I'm anti-war more than any of the people talking and running their fucking mouths on Twitter because none of them have ever been to war before and I have. It's my friends that died over there, not yours. I don't want to hear your fucking bullshit about how fucking morally anti-war you are, you little bitch. This cannot be tolerated. Todd Jefferson was upset, rightly so, that pirates were attacking US shipping vessels, so we created the United States Navy. It is the only branch of the military even authorized by the Constitution, and it is authorized to do exactly this to combat fucking, or to protect rather, our shipping and transportation lands globally. That's the purpose of US Navy, and it has been the primary resource to do that since 1947, for the entire world. - I was gonna bring up Jefferson, specifically, libertarian hero Jefferson was like, we gotta go. - He's the one that did this. It is like literally, I don't think we should have a standing army. I think we should have a Navy and a Marine Corps that has all of our special operators in the Marine Corps. That's what I think. I don't think we should have an army or an Air Force, right? I think the Navy should be the only thing, and the Navy we can be the Air Force as well. Like the largest Air Force in the world is the Air Force. Second largest Air Force is the Navy. - Yeah, and so for a lot of the Twitter warriors out here, I'm gonna ask you, 'cause you were actually in the military, you know this. There's been a lot of suggestions throughout the day that Israel in response should bomb all their oil refineries and possibly their nuclear power plants and get rid of their capabilities to have nuclear weapons potentially in the future. - Absolutely not. - Okay. - Absolutely not. Because all you do is create a RAC 2.0 when you do that. You destabilize a country that has a lot of fucking crazy, rich people in it. Fuck that. That's dumb. It doesn't make any fucking sense to do that. It's the same thing we did in Afghanistan, by the way. Now they're crazy poor people, but they're still crazy. That's not how you handle this. Trump did a very good job at this. He did a very good job at mitigating Iran and their influence just by not giving them billions of dollars. Like Obama did and like fucking Harrison and Biden have done, which is, that should be the easiest part is to not do that. They were, I believe Trump likes to say, Trump's. - Trump's man. - Trump's. I think Trump likes to say they were poor and weak when he was in office and that's absolutely what we need to do. I'm not saying that we need to go to war with Iran. I don't think we do at all. I don't think it's even, not forget about whether it's moral or just or not. It's not even necessary. Trump has already done this just a couple of years ago after Obama fucked it up just like Biden, Harrison fucked it up, right? And he came in and did the right thing a few times and completely mitigated their influence in the region. We can do that again. You just got a fucking elected and that's it. But to be clear, this idea that Iran is not our enemy, enemy is demonstrably untrue. It's a very silly and dangerous thing to believe. Now, here's what I can't understand because when Kamala Harris was asked about this, if Iran was to do something in retaliation here, she gave a one-word response and she said, "Don't." Yeah. Now, it didn't appear to work today. - Quit it. - And I'm shocked by that. She said, "Don't." - Do you remember Michael, whatever his name is, from MattTV, the Stewart character? - Mm-hmm. - Stop. - Stop. - Stop. - Stop. - Stop. - Yeah, that's not good foreign policy, bud. - No, it's not at all. And again, we're gonna go picture-in-picture tonight with you guys throughout the entirety of this with polite commentary. Kidding. - No. - Oh, we won't be, but... - This is, by the way, before we get into the actual debate, this is part of what's going on right now. The other part is that these long-shoremen people have gone on strike. - Mm-hmm. - And we should absolutely crush this union. Unions are poisoned in the first place, but this one in particular, we have to crush this guy. This guy was on trial a couple of years ago for racketeering because he's hooked up with the Genovese mob, the Genovese family, in New York. And the case eventually got thrown out because they found the key witness in a fucking trunk decomposing, right? - That's gonna happen. - He made $900,000 last year as the fucking head of a union, $900,000 he made. The average port worker in America makes $147,000 a year and $35,000 in annual medical benefits. They are asking for no automation, no automation, and a 70% raise, fuck you. Fire all of these people, replace them with robots right now, fuck you. Like, and some people have come at me today about like, oh, but my union does this or my union does that. It's like, okay, cool, you're sacrificing the security and economy of this country for your own personal gain then. Congratulations, you're an asshole. Like, sorry, I'm good that it's working out for you, but it's fucking the country up. Fuck this guy, bust this union, kill them, not kill them, but like kill this union entirely. - Yeah, I mean, look, we saw this in Hollywood with a very similar thing with AI instead of automation in this case, and it didn't work out greats at the end of it, even though you kind of got what you want. It dragged on forever, lost billions and billions of dollars. A lot of people lost their jobs and livelihoods. This one is a whole different ball game because shit, everything we buy gets shipped in from somewhere and you're gonna need these ports and longshoremen all the way up and down the coast or God knows how long the wait time is gonna be for Christmas things. - Well, this, I mean, everything. - Bob has looked into this already. It looks like most of the big, I guess, most of the big companies have already ordered a lot for this season, so it doesn't look like the holiday season will be a fuck. - In anticipation of the strikes. - Yes, and also they were saying, just from the Wall Street Journal shit that I read, they kind of alert a lot of lessons from COVID and probably that weird Suez Canal traffic jam as well. - Yeah. - So they are, then knowing this was on the horizon too, they're stock up for the holiday season. It would really start hitting in the new year. - Okay, and then are we ready to rock there? How close are they? For the debates. - Looks like the little clock they have is gone, so maybe. - Yeah, they're coming on now. Here we go, kids, walls versus vans. Let's go picture in picture and turn this up. - Pogue V-Pogue. - CBS is the one that's hosting this tonight's Norah O'Donnell. - And Margaret Brennan. - And in order to have a thoughtful and civil debate, these are the rules that both companies have agreed to. Questions will be directed at one candidate who will have two minutes to respond. The other candidate will be allowed two minutes for rebuttal. - And then at the end, they don't fucking make a little baby. - But he thinks the top of the bottle. Because Tim Walsh is obviously a gay lord, but Vance wears mascara, so who's gay? - We don't know, he could have the David Carr disease, where it just looks like he's got mascara on. - Backcheck claims, we can try and check. - And I don't want to rule that out. - CBS has said they're not gonna fact check any, but they said they put out a statement and said it's the candy shop, the fact check each other. - Oh, great. - Which is, it should be, it's said. Governor, Senator, thank you for joining us. - Here we go. - Let's get started. Tonight our country is facing several unfolding crises. The Middle East is on the brink of war. Americans are suffering from the catastrophic impact of Hurricane Helene, and now a labor strike as 25,000 dock workers from Maine to Texas are picketing. We're gonna begin tonight with the Middle East, Margaret. - Thank you, Nora. Earlier today, Iran launched its largest attack yet on Israel, but that attack failed, thanks to joint US and Israeli defensive action. President Biden has deployed more than 40,000 US military personnel and assets to that region over the past year to try to prevent a regional war. Iran is weakened, but the US still considers it the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world, and it has drastically reduced the time it would take to develop a nuclear weapon. It is down now to one or two weeks time. - Go on, get the fuck outta here, why? - If you were the final voice in this situation, by the way, they said three weeks, like six months ago. - A pre-emptive strike by Israel on Iran. You have two minutes. - Well, thank you, and thank you for those joining home tonight. Let's keep in mind where this started. October 7th, Hamas terrorists massacred over 1,400 Israelis who took prisoners. - Oh! - Iran, I-- - It's all the muscles. - Why does he look like the defendant so he's absolutely fundamental? - Getting its hostages back, fundamentals. And ending the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. But the expansion of Israel and its proxies is an absolute fundamental necessity for the United States to have the steady leadership there. You saw it, experienced today, where along with our Israeli partners and our coalition, able to stop the incoming attack. But what's fundamental here is that steady leadership is gonna matter. It's clear, and the world saw it on that debate stage a few weeks ago, a nearly 80-year-old Donald Trump talking about crowd sizes is not what we need in this moment. But it's not just that. It's those that were closest to Donald Trump that understand how dangerous he is when the world is this dangerous. His chief of staff, John Kelly, said that he was the most flawed human being he'd ever met. And both of his secretaries of defense and his national security advisors said he should be nowhere near the White House. Now, the person closest to that. - A 53 former intelligence. - The two officials said that. - Donald Trump, by laptop, is rushing this information. - Highest office. That was Senator Vance. What we've seen of Vice President Harris is we've seen steady leadership. We've seen a calmness that is able to be able to draw on the coalitions to bring them together. Understanding that our allies matter. When our allies see Donald Trump turn towards Vladimir Putin, turn towards North Korea. When we start to see that type of fickleness around holding the coalitions together, we will stay committed. And as the Vice President said today is, we will protect our forces and our allied forces and there will be consequences. - Governor, your time is up. Senator Vance, the same question. Would you support or oppose a preemptive strike by Israel on Iran? You have to admit it. - I didn't answer the question, I guess. - So we're gonna answer the question. First of all, thanks Governor. Thanks to CBS for hosting the debate and thanks most importantly to the American people who are watching this evening and caring enough about this country to pay attention to this Vice President's debate. I wanna answer the question, but I wanna actually give an introduction to myself a little bit 'cause I recognize a lot of Americans don't know who either one of us are. - So those eyes are doing all the work. - I was raised in a woman class family. My mother required food assistance. - I think he was. - I think he was of her life. - I think he's more of the material. So she's security help to raise me and she raised me in part because my own mother struggled with addiction for a big chunk of my early life. I went to college on the GI Bill after I enlisted in the Marine Corps and served in Iraq. And so I stand here asking to be your Vice President with extraordinary gratitude for this country, for the American dream that made it possible for me to live my dreams. And most importantly, I know that a lot of you are worried about the chaos in the world and the feeling that the American dream is unattainable. I wanna try to convince you tonight over the next 90 minutes that if we get better leadership in the White House, if we get Donald Trump back in the White House, the American dream is gonna be attainable once again. Now to answer this particular question, we have to remember that as much as Governor Waltz just accused Donald Trump for being an agent of drugs, Donald Trump actually delivered stability in the world and he did it by establishing effective deterrence. People were afraid of stepping out of line. Iran, which launched this attack, has received over $100 billion in unfrozen assets thanks to the Kamala Harris administration. What do they use that money for? They use it to buy weapons that they're now launching against our allies and God forbid, potentially launching against the United States as well. Donald Trump recognized that for people to fear the United States, you needed peace through strength. They needed to recognize that if they got out of line, the United States global leadership would put stability and peace back in the world. Now you asked about a preemptive strike, Margaret, and I wanna answer the question, look, it is up to Israel, but they think they need to do to keep their country safe and we should support our allies wherever they are when they're fighting the bad guys. I think that's the right approach to take with the Israel question. - Thank you, Senator. Governor Walls, do you care to respond to any of the allegations? - Well, look, Donald Trump was in office. We'll sometimes hear a revisionist history, but when Donald Trump was in office, it was Donald Trump who we had a coalition of nations that had boxed Iran's nuclear program in, the inability to advance it. Donald Trump pulled that program and put nothing else in its place. So Iran is closer to a nuclear weapon than they were before because of Donald Trump's fickle leadership. And when Iran shot down an American aircraft in international airspace, Donald Trump tweeted. - No. - Because that's the standard problem. - I mean, yes, it did. The abdominal trauma. - And when Iranian missiles did fall near U.S. troops and they received traumatic brain injuries, Donald Trump wrote it off as headaches. Look, our allies- - Here's what happened there. I said it before on the show that those of you who are listening for the first time. - He will go to- - Iran courts, Trump had said they were firing his weapons, gave him grid coordinates with their gonna land. And that's why I'm not one day soldier with April. Both Iranian attacks were repelled. Our coalition is strong. And we need the steady leadership that Kamala Harris is providing. - Senator Vance, the U.S. did have a diplomatic deal with Iran to temporarily pause parts of its nuclear program. And President Trump did exit that deal. He recently said, just five days ago, the U.S. must now make a diplomatic deal with Iran because the consequences are impossible. Did he make a mistake? You have one minute. - Well, first of all, Margaret, diplomacy is not a dirty word, but I think that's something that Governor Waltz just said is quite extraordinary. You yourself just said Iran is as close to a nuclear weapon today as they have ever been. And Governor Waltz, you blame Donald Trump. Who has been the vice president for the last three and a half years? And the answer is you're running mate, not mine. - Donald Trump consistently made the world more secure. Now, we talk about the sequence of events that led us to where we are right now. And you can't ignore October the 7th, which I appreciate Governor Waltz bringing up. But when did Iran and Hamas and their proxies attack Israel? It was during the administration of Kamala Harris. So Governor Waltz can criticize Donald Trump's tweets, but effective smart diplomacy and peace through strength. - It's how he brings stability back to the world. - He's quite a bit better at this. - Donald Trump has already done it once before. Ask yourself at home, when was the last time? - While years old was the last time. - He just found out that an American president didn't have a major cause for a breakout. The only answer is during the four years that Donald Trump was president. - Gentlemen, we have a lot to get to. - There's gonna be so many names. - Margaret, thank you. - Let's turn out, Eric and Colleen. The storm could become one of the deadliest on record. More than 160 people are dead and hundreds more are missing. Scientists say climate change makes these hurricanes-- - Oh, God damn it, dude. - Stronger and more deadly because of the historic rainfall. - McLaughlin. - Senator Vance, according to CBS news polling, seven in 10 Americans and more than 60% of Republicans under the age of 45 favor the US taking steps to try and reduce climate change. - Senator, what responsibility would the Trump administration have to try and reduce the impact of climate change? I'll give you two minutes. - Sure, so first of all, let's start with the hurricane because it's an unbelievable, unspeakable human tragedy. I just saw today actually a photograph of two grandparents on a roof with a six year old child and it was the last photograph ever taken to them because the roof collapsed and those innocent people lost their lives. And I'm sure Governor Walsh joins me and saying our hearts go out to those innocent people, our prayers go out to them, and we want as robust and aggressive as a federal response as we can get to save as many lives as possible. And then of course afterwards, to help the people in those communities rebuild. I mean, these are communities that I love. Some of them I know very personally in Appalachia all across the Southeast, they need their government to do their job. And I commit that when Donald Trump is president again, the government will put the citizens of this country first when they suffer from a disaster. And or you asked about climate change. I think this is a very important issue. Look, a lot of people are justifiably worried about all these crazy weather patterns. I think it's important for us first of all to say, Donald Trump and I support clean air, clean water. We want the environment to be cleaner and safer. But one of the things that I've noticed some of our democratic friends talking a lot about is a concern about carbon emissions. This idea that carbon emissions drives all the climate change. Well, let's just say that's true, just for the sake of argument. So we're not arguing about weird science. Let's just say that's true. Well, if you believe that, what would you want to do? The answer is that you'd want to re-shore as much American manufacturing as possible and you'd want to produce as much energy as possible in the United States of America because we're the cleanest economy in the entire world. What have Kamala Harris' policies actually led to? More energy production in China, more manufacturing overseas, more doing business in some of the dirtiest parts of the entire world. And when I say that, I mean the amount of carbon emissions they're doing per unit of economic output. So if we actually care about getting cleaner air and cleaner water, the best thing to do is to double down and invest in American workers and the American people. And unfortunately, Kamala Harris has done exactly the opposite. So he's done so many interviews with Margaret. He's used to, I'm telling you I've watched him every weekend. Every weekend he's on a show. First of all, it is a horrific tragedy with this hurricane. And my heart goes like the police down there. I'm in contact with the governor right now. So rapey ones. Well, that's the share of the council of governors. If we don't want to get it on top of me. I understand. He's got a slick and shit they work together to. So that's something a lot of the emergency responders are on the ground. Those happen on the front end of the federal government. The federal government comes in and makes sure they're there to that we recover. But we're still in that phase where we need to make sure that they're staying there, staying focused, and now we're coming back to the climate change issue. There's no doubt this thing bored onto the scene faster and stronger than anything we've seen. Senator Vance has said that there's a climate problem in the past. Donald Trump called it a hoax and then joked that these things would make more beachfront property to be able to invest in. What we've seen out of the Harris administration now, the Biden-Harris administration, is we've seen this investment. We've seen massive investments, the biggest in global history that we've seen in the Inflation Reduction Act, has created jobs all across the country. 2,000 in Jeffersonville, Ohio, taking the EV technology that we invented and making it here. 200,000 jobs across the country. The largest solar manufacturing plant in North America sets in Minnesota. But my farmers know climate change is real. They've seen 500-year droughts, 500-year floods back to back. But what they're doing is adapting, and this has allowed them to tell me, look, I harvest corn, I harvest soybean, and I harvest wind. We are producing more natural gas and more oil at any time than we ever have. We're also producing more clean energy. So the solution for us is to get more coal now that climate change is real. Reducing our impact is absolutely critical, but this is not a false choice. You can do that at the same time you're creating the jobs that we're seeing all across the country. That's exactly what this administration has done. We are seeing us becoming an energy superpower for the future, not just the current, and that's what absolutely makes sense. And then we start thinking about how do we mitigate these disasters? - Thank you. Senator, I wanna give you an opportunity to respond there. The governor mentioned that President Trump has called climate change a hoax. Do you agree? - Well, look, what the president has said is that if the Democrats, in particular Kamala Harris and her leadership, if they really believe that climate change is serious, what they would be doing is more manufacturing and more energy production in the United States of America, and that's not what they're doing. So clearly Kamala Harris herself doesn't believe her own rhetoric on this. If she did, she would actually agree with Donald Trump's energy policies. Now, something Governor Walts said, I think it's important to touch upon, because when we talk about clean energy, I think that's a slogan that often the Democrats will use here, and I'm talking, of course, about the Democratic leadership, and the real issue is that if you're spending hundreds of millions, or even billions of dollars of American taxpayer money on solar panels that are made in China, number one, you're gonna make the economy dirtier. We should be making more of those solar panels here in the United States of America. Some of them are, Tim, but a lot of them are being made overseas in China, especially the components that go into those solar panels. So if you really want to make the environment cleaner, you've got to invest in more energy production. We haven't built a nuclear facility, I think one in the past 40 years. - Senator. - Natural gas. We gotta invest more in it. Kamala Harris has done the opposite. That's raised energy prices, and also meant that we're doing this by the climate. - Senator, your time is up. Governor, would you like to respond? - Well, look, we're producing more natural gas than we ever have. There's no moratorium on that. We're producing more oil, but the folks know. - Oh, my. - I can say it again. - Definitely not enough oil. - No, it is. We are currently, like when the administration started, no, but it is currently at peak levels. - Massive flooding of the next one. - Now, yeah. - They understand that in the last year and a half, two years, I think. - Number one, export cannot be topsoil from erosion from these massive storms. We saw it in Minnesota this summer. And thinking about how do we respond to that, we're thinking ahead on this. And what Kamala Harris has been able to do in Minnesota, we're starting to weatherproof some of these things. The infrastructure law that was passed allows us to think about mitigation in the future. How do we make sure that we're protecting by burying our power lines? How do we make sure that we're protecting lake fronts and things that we're seeing more and more of? But to call it a hoax and to take the oil company executives tomorrow, Lago, say, give me money for my campaign and I'll let you do whatever you want. We can be smarter about that. And in all above energy policies, exactly what she's doing, creating those jobs right here. - Governor, your time is up. The overwhelming consensus among scientists in this climate is warming at an unprecedented rate. - Production of natural gas under Trump went up 24 and a half a cents during his four years and during this administration has gone up 12 and a half. - It consistently ranks as one is not true about half. - Well, no, I mean, it's true that the total amount is good, but it's higher, but it's not. - Your campaign is pledging to carry out the largest mass peace notation plan in American history and to use the U.S. military to do so. Could you be more specific about exactly how this will work? For example, would you deport parents who have entered the U.S. illegally and separate them from any of their children who were born on U.S. soil? You have two minutes. - So first of all, Margaret, before we talk about deportations, we have to stop the bleeding. We have a historic immigration crisis because Kamala Harris started and said that she wanted to undo all of Donald Trump's border policies. 94 executive orders suspending deportations, decriminalizing illegal aliens, massively increasing the asylum fraud that exists in our system. That has opened the floodgates. And what it's meant is that a lot of fentanyl is coming into our country. I had a mother who struggled with opioid addiction and has gotten clean. I don't want people who are struggling with addiction to be deprived of their second chance because Kamala Harris led in fentanyl into our communities at record levels. So you've got to stop the bleeding. You've got to re-implement Donald Trump's border policies, build the wall, re-implement deportations, and that gets me to your point, Margaret, about what do we actually do? So we've got 20, 25 million illegal aliens who are here in the country. What do we do with them? I think the first thing that we do is we start with the criminal migrants. About a million of those people have committed some form of crime in addition to crossing the border illegally. I think you start with deportations on those folks. - That's a hard point. - And then I think you make it harder for illegal aliens to undercut the wages of American workers. A lot of people go home if they can't work for less than a whole wage in our own country. And by the way, that'll be really good for our workers who just want to earn a fair wage for doing a good day's work. - And the final point, Margaret, you're asking me. - So you think we should leave 19 million illegal aliens in the country? - Well, what all happened is, the same thing that happened in 2017 in children. - That the Department of Homeland Security has effectively lost. - Some of them have been sex-traffed. - Because if you get caught and deported once, you get a five year ban on re-entry. - You get caught a second time with a permanent ban. - The real family separation policy in this country is unfortunately common. - And it was very effective. - So here, this is why it opens one million in the worst. - And I'd ask my fellow Americans to probably go and make the rest of what a lot of power was going to do. - Like those are the people that are saying the worst jobs. We're going to go back to the whole press. - The shitty ones you want out of it. - And to be frank, the white for all of us. - Dummies and the Pacific Northwest aren't going to work. - So let's let them die in the specific allegations and whatever they're going to do. And we'll have fucking Mexicans. - Letting in sentil. - To us citizens, they'll be Italian and Irish. - And everybody else have over the years. They're things. - Yeah, well, the drug meal is not true. But I will say about this, about the fentanyl. 'Cause this is a crisis of this, the opioid crisis. And the good news on this is, is the last 12 months saw the largest decrease in opioid deaths in our nation's history. - Yeah, that's because it peaked at 120,000 people. - But let's go back to this one. - You fucking cunt. - Connel Harris was the Attorney General of the largest state in a border state in California. She's the only person in this race who prosecuted transnational gangs for human trafficking and drug interventions. - That's a good talking point, 10. - But look, 2017, 310,000 border crossing attempts. - And that is the United States Congress. - 2018, 404, 2019 was high, 860, 2020, - That's the most American out here. - 405, 2021, 1.6 million, 2022, 2.2 million, 2023, 2.1 million. - That this nation's seen. - It was fucking you. - A conservative Senator from Oklahoma, James Langford. I know him, he's super conservative, but he's a man of principle once you get it done. Democrats and Republicans worked on this piece of legislation. The Border Patrol said, "This is what we need in here. "These are the experts." And the Chamber of Commerce in the Wall Street Journal said, "Pass this thing." 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But here we are again, nine years after he came down at escalator dehumanizing people and telling them what he was going to do. As far as the deportation plan at one point, Senator Vance said it was so unworkable to be laughable. So that's where we're at. Pass the bill, she'll sign it. - Governor, your time is up. Senator, the question was, will you separate parents from their children, even if their kids are US citizens? You have one minute. - Margaret, my point is that we already have massive child separations thanks to Kamala Harris's open border and I didn't accuse Kamala Harris of inviting drug mules. I said that she enabled the Mexican drug cartels to operate freely in this country and we know that they use children as drug mules and it is a disgrace and it has to stop. But I think what Tim said just doesn't pass the smell test. For three years, Kamala Harris went out bragging that she was gonna undo Donald Trump's border policy. She did exactly that. We had a record number of illegal crossings. We had a record number of fentanyl coming into our country and now that she's running for president or a few months before, she says that somehow she got religion and cared a lot about a piece of legislation. The only thing that she did when she became the vice president, when she became the appointed borders are, was to undo 94 Donald Trump executive actions that opened the border. This problem is leading to massive problems in the United States of America. Parents who can't afford healthcare, schools that are overwhelmed, it's got to stop and it will when Donald Trump is president again. Senator, your time is up, Governor. What about our CBS news polling, which does show that a majority of Americans, more than 50% support mass deportations? Look, we fix this issue with a bill that is necessary, but the issue on this is this is what happens when you don't want to solve it, you demonize it. And we saw this and Senator Vance, it's fine. Oh, and you don't want to solve the problem by codifying into our 3.5 million illegals coming into the country every year, which by the way, would be the most of any year in the history of this country that wasn't a Biden-Harris year. The other thing in that bill, get some of your brain and funding Israel, I don't want that either. We could come together, Senator Langford did it. We could come together and solve this if we didn't let Donald Trump continue to make it an issue. And the consequences- Donald Trump wasn't an office. The last four years. There's nothing to do with this. State law enforcement to escort kindergartners to school. I believe Senator Vance wants to solve this, but by standing with Donald Trump and not working together to find a solution, it becomes a talking point. And when it becomes a talking point like this, we dehumanize and villainize other human beings. There's also 322,000 new children. Governor, your time is up, Senator. I'll give you one minute, but let me just- Unaccountative war, 320,000 legal immigrant children that have come across the border in the last three and a half years. And I think- I'm sitting lawmaker. You know that Congress controls the purse strings and any funding. So you have said repeatedly that Donald Trump would, through executive action, solve this. Do you disagree that Congress controls the purse strings and would need to support many of the changes that you would actually want to implement? You have one minute. - Look, Margaret, first of all, the gross majority of what we need to do with the Southern border is just empowering law enforcement to do their job. I've been to the Southern border more than our borders are. Kamala Harris has been. And it's actually heartbreaking because the border patrol agents, they just want to be empowered to do their job. Of course, additional resources would help. But most of this is about the president and the vice president empowering our law enforcement to say, if you try to come across the border illegally, you've got to stay in Mexico, you've got to go back through proper channels. Now, Governor Walts brought up the community of Springfield, and he's very worried about the things that I've said in Springfield. Look, in Springfield, Ohio, and in communities all across this country, you've got schools that are overwhelmed, you've got hospitals that are overwhelmed, you've got housing that is totally unaffordable because we brought in millions of illegal immigrants to compete with Americans for scarce homes. The people that I'm most worried about in Springfield, Ohio are the American citizens who have had their lives destroyed by Kamala Harris' open border. It is a disgrace to him. And I actually think, I agree with you. I think you want to solve this problem, but I don't think that Kamala Harris does. - Senator, your time is up. Governor, you have one minute to respond. - That's definitely interesting. - It is law enforcement that asked for the bill. They helped craft it. They're the ones that supported it. - Nobody wanted that bill. - No, we need to. - It includes funding for Ukraine. - It's continuing to bring us up. - This is nothing to do with it. - Ablaming migrants for everything. On housing, we could talk a little bit about Wall Street speculators buying up housing and making them blouse before. - Or we could talk about Barney Frank, who created the 2007-2008 housing crisis. - This gives the money necessary to adjudicate. - I agree, it should not take seven years for an asylum claim to be done. This bill gets it done in 90 days. Then you start to make a difference in this. - This bill fast-tracks the citizens, that was the good principles. - For people who, we don't know who they are. - 1.5 million. - Matthew 2540 talks about what you imported it. - To the least amongst us, you do unto me. I think that's true. - Bob actually had a good idea earlier. We need more coal right now because of - This bill does it, it's funded. - It's funded by the people who do it. - You're an illegal immigrant. You comment, you work the coal mines. - About how we treat other people. - Yeah. - You're a citizen. - Thank you. - I said that long, short too. - Long short too, yeah. - Long short too, yeah. - A lot of other ships. - Oh, hi. - If our guys are going to fucking do it. - Kill that union, put them there too. Five years of service. - Have legal status. - You're good. - Temporary protected status. - Well, Mark, Mark, thank you Senator. We have so much to get to. - No, no, you don't. - We're going to turn out of the economy. Thank you. - The rules were there. - The economy. - You got to work. - We're going to fact check. And since you're fact checking me, it's important to say what's actually going on. So there's an application called the CBP1 app. Or you can go on as an illegal migrant, apply for asylum or apply for parole, and be granted legal status at the wave of a Kamala Harris open border wand. That is not a person coming in, applying for a green card and waiting for 10 years. - Thank you Senator. - That is the sanitation of a legal immigration Margaret. - Thank you Senator. - Those laws have been on the book since 1990. - Thank you gentlemen. - They haven't been on phone apps since 1990, they're Tim. - No, Timmy. - We didn't have a cell phone until the 2000s. - Gentlemen, the audience can't hear you because your mics are cut. We have so much we want to get to. - We just said you weren't going to fact check everybody and you fucking did. - Thank you Margaret. The economy is a top concern for voters. Each of your campaigns has released an economic plan. So let's talk about the specifics. Governor Walls, Vice President Harris unveiled a plan that includes billions in tax credits for manufacturing, housing and a renewed child tax credit. The Wharton school says your proposals will increase the nation's status. - Why don't you bring up the Wharton schools if that's a fucking N-O-V-L here? - I have no idea. - How would you pay for that without ballooning the deficit? Governor, I'll give you two minutes. - Yeah, thank you. And Kamala Harris and I do believe in the middle class because that's where we come from. We both grew up in that, we understand. - Her mom and dad were fucking professing a lot of stuff back in my mind. - It's good, it's healthy. That's what this is supposed to happen. You should be listening, how's this gonna impact me? The bold forward plan that Kamala Harris put out there is one is talking about this housing issue. But one thing is, there's 3 million new houses proposed under this plan with down payment assistance on the front end to get you in a house. A house is much more than just an asset to be traded somewhere. It's foundational to where you're at. And then making sure that the things you buy every day, whether they be prescription drugs or other things, that there's fairness in that. Look, the $35 insulin is a good thing, but it costs $5 to make insulin. They were charging $800 before this law went into effect. As far as the housing goes, I've seen it in Minnesota. 12% more houses in Minneapolis, prices went down on rent 4%. It's working. And then making sure tax cuts go to the middle class. $6,000 tiled tax credit, we have one in Minnesota, reduces childhood poverty by a third. We save money in the long run and we do the right things. And then it dances, dances answer is it's Android. Spend less money, how are we going to afford not taxing 50,000? No, this is a philosophical question. Spend less money, cunt. Donald Trump made a promise. And I'll give you this in a minute. He took folks tomorrow, Lago, said, "You're rich as hell, I'm going to give you a tax cut." He gave the tax cuts that predominantly went to the top class. What happened there was an $8 trillion increase in the national debt, the largest ever. Now he's proposing a 20% consumption or sales tax on everything we bring in. Everyone agrees including businesses it would be destabilizing it. It would increase inflation and potentially lead to a recession. Look, this is simple for you. Where are we going? Kamala Harris has said to do the things she wants to do, we'll just ask the wealthiest to pay their fair share. When you do that, our system works best. If every billionaire in America participate in 100% of their wealth. They need to the government. Senator, I want to give you a moment to respond to that. But similarly, the Wharton School has done an analysis of the Trump- - Another Wharton School reference. - And says it would increase the nation's deficit by 5.8 trillion. My question is the same for you. How do you pay for all that without ballooning the deficit? I'll give you two minutes. - Well, first of all, you're gonna hear a lot from Tim Walz this evening. And you just heard it in the answer. A lot of what Kamala Harris proposes to do. And some of it, I'll be honest with you, it even sounds pretty good. Here's what you won't hear is that Kamala Harris has already done it because she's been the vice president for three and a half years. She had the opportunity to enact all of these great policies. And what she's actually done instead is drive the cost of food higher by 25%. Drive the cost of housing higher by about 60%. - 50, 60%. - Open the American Southern border and make middle class life unaffordable for a large number of Americans. If Kamala Harris has such great plans for how to address middle class problems, then she ought to do them now. Not one asking for a promotion, but in the job the American people gave her three and a half years ago. And the fact that she isn't tells you a lot about how much you can trust her actual plans. Now Donald Trump's economic plan is not just a plan, but it's also a record. A lot of those same economists attack Donald Trump's plans and they have PhDs, but they don't have common sense and they don't have wisdom. Because Donald Trump's economic policies deliver to the highest take home pay and a generation in this country, 1.5% inflation and to boot peace and security all over the world. So when people say that Donald Trump's economic plan doesn't make sense, I say look at the record. He delivered rising take home pay for American workers. Now Tim admirably admits that they want to undo the Trump tax cuts, but if you look at what was so different about Donald Trump's tax cuts, even from previous Republican tax cut plans, is that a lot of those resources went to giving more take home pay to middle class and working class Americans. It was passed in 2017 and you saw an American economic boom unlike we've seen in a generation in this country. That is a record that I'm proud to run on and we're going to get back to that common sense wisdom so that you can afford to live the American dream again. I know a lot of you are struggling. I know a lot of you are worried about paying the bills. It's going to stop when Donald Trump brings back common sense to this country. - Rosie Cox in the chat says my son sold his first animal for this weekend and saw how much Uncle Sam took from the last track to hate the government. If you want to raise Republican kids, give them an allowance and take 40% right back. That's that good. - And they will vote and repute for the rest of this. - Since the rest of the shot down the line. - 9 million jobs closed on that. That was day one, whether it was the infrastructure act or other things we moved. Now you made a question about experts said this. I've made a note of this. Economists don't know you have to be trusted. Science can't be trusted. National security folks can't be trusted. Look, if you're going to be president, you don't have all the answers. Donald Trump believes he does. My pro tip of the day is this. If you need heart surgery, listen to the people at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota. - Why? The people that told me that fucking vaccines didn't cause microditis. - Teachers, not listening to them. - How is it fair that you're paying your taxes every year and Donald Trump hasn't paid any federal tax 10 to the last 15 years? - That's also not true of the advances about the light of them up on that one. - That's true with the system. - There's a way around it and he's bragged about that. We're just asking for fairness in it and that's all you want. - You have a minute. - Governor, you say trust the experts. But those same experts for 40 years said that if we shipped our manufacturing base off to China, we'd get cheaper goods. They lied about that. They said if we shipped our industrial base off to other countries to Mexico and elsewhere, it would make the middle class stronger. They were wrong about that. They were wrong about the idea that if we made America less self-reliant, less productive in our own nation, that it would somehow make us better off and they were wrong about it. And for the first time in a generation, Donald Trump had the wisdom and the courage to say to that bipartisan consensus, we're not doing it anymore. We're bringing American manufacturing back. We're unleashing American energy. We're gonna make more of our own stuff. And this isn't just an economic issue. And I've got three beautiful little kids at home, seven, four, and two, and I love them very much and I hope they're in bed right now. But look, so many of the drugs, the pharmaceuticals that we put in the bodies of our children are manufactured by nations that hate us. This has to stop and we're not gonna stop it by listening to experts. We're gonna stop it by listening to common sense wisdom, which is what Donald Trump governed on. - Senator, you're talking about Governor Walz, can you address that? I mean, voters say they trust Donald Trump on the economy more. Why? - If you're listening tonight and you want billionaires? - Four years of proof. - What are you talking about? - Four years versus four years. - You're asking people to believe shit that they know is not true. - I'm not a guy who wanted to ship things overseas, but I understand that look, we produce soybeans and corn. We need to have fair trading partners. That's something that we believe in. I think the thing that most concerns me on this is is Donald Trump was the guy who created the largest trade deficit in American history with China. So the rhetoric is good. Much of what the Senator said right there, I'm in agreement with him on this. I watched it happen too. I watched it to my communities and we talked about that. But we had people undercutting the right to collectively bargain. We had right to work states made it more difficult. We had companies that were willing to ship it over. - Oh, you're gonna bring a view here? - And we saw people coming. Folks that are venture capital in some cases, putting money into companies that were overseas. We're in agreement that we bring to his home. The issue is Donald Trump is talking about it. - People are asking for the volume on it to be turned up a little bit. - That's turned up the volume of the rich. - Just in out of the IRA. - But may I respond to that? - Yes. - So appreciate that. So if you notice what Governor Waltz just did, as he said, first of all, Donald Trump has to listen to the experts. And then when he acknowledged that the experts screwed up, he said, well Donald Trump didn't do nearly as good of a job as this is a show that he did. So what Tim Waltz is doing, and I honestly, Tim, I think you got a tough job here. 'Cause you've gotta play whack-a-mole. You've gotta pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver rising take-home pay, which of course he did. You've gotta pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver lower inflation, which of course he did. And then you simultaneously got to defend. Kamala Harris' atrocious economic record, which has made gas, groceries, and housing unaffordable for American citizens. I was raised by a woman who would sometimes go into medical debt so that she could put food on the table in our household. I know what it's like to not be able to afford the things that you need to afford. We can do so much better. To all of you watching, we can get back to an America that's affordable again. We just gotta get back to common sense economic principles. - I hope we have a conversation on health care then. - Senator, Governor, please. - Thank you, Margaret. We have a lot to get to ahead. - Realize of Jim, every time she says that, we will have to get through tonight. - That's what they've said in every debate when Trump is making a point. - Yeah. - As soon as Trump starts making a point, like, "Excuse me, we got a lot to get to." - You guys can help yourself. The hardy-up selfs are up here. - We want to ask you about your leadership qualities. - Who are these queers? - We know. - Are these MPs? - You said you were in Hong Kong during the deadly Tiananis Square contest in the spring of 1989. - Okay. - The Minnesota Public Radio and other media outlets are reporting that you actually didn't travel to Asia until August of that year. Can you explain that discrepancy? - Yeah, well, into the folks out there who didn't get at the top of this, look, I grew up in small rural Nebraska, town of 400, town that you rode your bike with your buddies 'til the street lights come on and I'm proud of that service. I joined the National Guard. - Who fucking cares? - How small the town you came from? - Come on, this is stolen power, isn't it? - And then I use the jail bill to become a teacher, passionate about it, a young teacher. My first year out, I got the opportunity in the summer of '89 to travel to China. 35 years ago, be able to do that. I came back home and then started a program to take young people there. We would take basketball teams, we would take baseball teams, we would take dancers, and we would go back and forth to China. The issue for that was was to try and learn. Now look, my community knows who I am. - Oh no, this is all where I was at. - Look, I will be the first to tell you, I have poured my heart into my community. I've tried to do the best I can, but I've not been perfect and I'm a knucklehead at times, but it's always been about that. Those same people elected me to Congress for 12 years. And in Congress, I was one of the most bipartisan people working on things like farm bills that we got done, working on veterans benefits. And then the people of Minnesota were able to elect me to governor twice. So look, my commitment has been from the beginning to make sure that I'm there for the people, to make sure that I get this right. I will say more than anything. Many times I will talk a lot, I will get caught up in the rhetoric, but being there, the impact it made, the difference it made in my life, I learned a lot about China. I hear the critiques of this. I would make the case that Donald Trump should have come on one of those trips with us. I guarantee you he wouldn't be praising Xi Jinping about COVID, and I guarantee you he wouldn't start a trade war that he ends up losing. So this is about trying to understand the world. It's about trying to do the best you can for your community. And then it's putting yourself out there and letting your folks understand what it is. My commitment, whether it be through teaching, which I was-- - Oh, excuse me governor. We had a lot to get to. - Oh, I haven't heard that though. - I've been a good member of Congress. Those are the things that I think are the values that people care about. - Governor, just to follow up on that, the question was, can you explain the discrepancy? - All I said on this was, is I got there that summer and misspoke on this. So I will just, that's what I've said. So I was in Hong Kong and China during the Democracy protest, went in. And from that, I learned a lot of what needed to be in governance. - Oh, that was awesome. - Thank you governor. - Thank you governor. - Senator Vance, in 2016, you called your running mate, Donald Trump, unfit for the nation's highest office. And you said he could be America's Hitler. I know you've said, you've been asked many times and you've said you regret those comments and explained you then voted for Donald Trump in 2020. But the Washington Post reported new messages last week in which you also disparaged Trump's economic record while he was president, writing to someone in 2020, quote, "Trump thoroughly failed to deliver his economic populism." You're now his running mate and you've shifted many of your policy stances to align with his. If you become vice president, why should Americans trust that you will give Donald Trump the advice he needs to hear? - He needs to hear. - And not just the advice he wants to hear. You have two minutes. - Well, first of all, Margaret, 'cause I've always been open. And sometimes, of course, I've disagreed with the president, but I've also been extremely open about the fact that I was wrong about Donald Trump. I was wrong, first of all, because I believed some of the media stories that turned out to be dishonest fabrications of his record. But most importantly, Donald Trump delivered for the American people, rising wages, rising take-home pay, an economy that worked for normal Americans, a secure Southern border, a lot of things, frankly, that I didn't think he'd be able to deliver on. And yeah, when you screw up, when you misspeak, when you get something wrong and you change your mind, you ought to be honest with the American people about it. It's one of the reasons, Margaret, why I've done so many interviews is because I think it's important to actually explain to the American people where I come down on the issues and what change. Now, you pointed out the messages from 2020. Margaret, I've been extremely consistent that I think there were a lot of things that we could have done better in the Trump administration, the first round, if Congress was doing its job. I strongly believe, and I've been a United States Senator, that Congress is not just a high-class debating society, it's not just a forum for senators and congressmen to whine about problems, it's a forum to govern. So there were a lot of things on the border, on tariffs, for example, where I think that we could have done so much more if the Republican Congress and the Democrats in Congress had been a little bit better about how they govern the country. They were so obsessed with impeaching Donald Trump, they couldn't actually govern. And I want to talk about this tariff issue in particular, Margaret, because, you know, Tim just accused this of being a national sales tax. Look, the one thing, and you're probably surprised to hear me praising Joe Biden, but the one thing that Joe Biden did is he continued some of the Trump tariffs that protected American manufacturing jobs. And it's the one issue, the most pro-worker part of the Biden administration. It's the one issue where Kamala Harris has run away from Joe Biden's record. Think about this, if you're trying to employ slave laborers in China at $3 a day, you're going to do that and undercut the wages of American workers unless our country stands up for itself and says you're not accessing our markets unless you're paying middle class Americans a fair wage. - Senator, your time is up. Nora? - Yeah, you stopped speaking. - Now to the issue of reproductive rights. - Stop saying it. - Governor Walz, after Roe versus Wade was over turned, he signed a bill into a law that made Minnesota one of the least restrictive states in the nation when it comes to abortion. Former President Trump said in the last debate that you believe abortion, quote, in the ninth month is absolutely fine. Yes or no, is that what you support? I'll give you two minutes. - That's not what the bill says, but look, this issue is what's on everyone's mind. Donald Trump is all in the motion. He brags about how great it was that he put the judges in and overturned Roe versus Wade, 52 years of personal autonomy. And then he tells us, oh, we send it to the states. It's a beautiful thing. Amanda Zoworski would disagree with you. - Well, the constitution agrees with you. Fag and bride. - Or disagrees with you. Shut the fuck up there, child. - God damn it, who cares. - There's a complication. - This is one instance. - She needs to go away, not even real stories talk about Roe. - At that point, he needs to be decided by the doc. - Absolute nonsense. - And that would have been a whole lot more important than him or her. - That would have put them in the little jeopardy. - She won 30 million people that live here. - Nearly dies. And now she may have difficulty having children. - Give me more than one. - Or in Kentucky, Hadley Duvall, a 12-year-old child, raped and impregnated by her stepfather. Those are horrific. Now, when God asked about that, Senator Vance said, "Two wrongs don't make a right." There is no right in this. So in Minnesota, what we did was restore Roe versus Wade, we made sure that we put women in charge of their healthcare. But look, this is not, if you don't know Amanda or Hadley, you soon will. Their project 2025 is gonna have a registry of pregnancies. It's going to make it more difficult if not impossible to get contraception. - I didn't even know what that is. - And would access, if not eliminate, access to infertility treatments. For so many of you out there listening, me included, infertility treatments, or why I have a child. - You want them to murder babies. - That's nobody else's business. - I'm all for murder of those. - But those things are being proposed. And the catch all on this is, - I do, I enjoy this. - The states will decide. - I'd like the way it's not. - What's right for Texas might not be right for Washington. That's not how this works. This is basic human right. We have seen, - I'm sorry. - Internal mortality. - Abortion as a basis. - Sky rocket in Texas. - Why should that be? - Pacing many other countries in the world. This is about healthcare. In Minnesota, we are ranked first in healthcare for a reason. We trust women, we trust doctors. - Senator, do you want to respond to the governor's claim? Will you create a federal pregnancy monitoring agency? - No, no, certainly we won't. And I want to talk about this issue, 'cause I know a lot of Americans care about it, and I know a lot of Americans don't agree with everything that I've ever said on this topic. And, you know, I grew up in a working class family in a neighborhood where I knew a lot of young women who had unplanned pregnancies and decided to terminate those pregnancies because they feel like they didn't have any other options. And, you know, one of them is actually very dear to me. And I know she's watching tonight, and I love you. And she told me something a couple of years ago that she felt like if she hadn't had that abortion, that it would have destroyed her life because she was in an abusive relationship. And I think that what I take from that, as a Republican who proudly wants to protect innocent life in this country, who proudly wants to protect the vulnerable, is that my party, we've got to do so much better of a job at earning the American people's trust back on this issue where they frankly just don't trust us. And I think that's one of the things that Donald Trump and I are endeavoring to do. I want us, as a Republican party, to be pro-family in the fullest sense of the word. I want us to support fertility treatments. I want us to make it easier for moms to afford to have babies. I want it to make it easier for young families to afford a home so they can afford a place to raise that family. And I think there's so much that we can do on the public policy front just to give women more options. Now, of course, Donald Trump has been very clear that on the abortion policy specifically, that we have a big country and it's diverse. And California has a different viewpoint on this than Georgia. Georgia has a different viewpoint from Arizona. And the proper way to handle this, as messy as democracy sometimes is, is to let voters make these decisions, let the individual states be-- - By the way, one thing no side will tell you on abortion. I think that's what makes the most sense in a very big, a very diverse-- - Just like it was before the Roe v. Wade by the way, which is why Ruth Bitt Ginsburg said the way it was bad case law. - I'm not even talking about that. The amount of abortions in Minnesota, I don't know, 70, 80, whatever, but the graph started, plummeted to now, and it is almost an identical line to the amount of repeat pregnancies that have also plotted. So, despite what anyone tells you on the right or left, to the upstream problem solving, has been excellent on this issue. - And the upstream problem solving, by the way, is to convince teenagers to do only anal. - The fact of the matter is how can we, as a nation, say that-- - For America. - For America, guys. - Maybe we should have an American flag with a butthole instead of stars. It's like 50 butthole. - America, anal is again. - But you're determining geography. - I think we should get back to real chance. - Brandon, Edgar, I know you're watching this. - Make that make America anal again, sure. - That's why the restoration of Roe v. Wade. When you listen to Vice President Harris talk about this, he gave Delco $50 for a vacay. - He was talking as he snapped him earlier. - Don Trump is trying to figure out how to get the political right of this. - I agree with a lot of what he and her fans said. - Delco, first of all, and that's straight to his bookie. First of all, let's be clear. - Well, Ben, you see after this weekend. - As we mentioned, before I do a national ban, in the past, you have supported a federal ban on abortion after 15 weeks. - I don't know if we can put a fuck in. - In fact, you said, if someone can't support legislation like that, you are making the United States the most barbaric-- - I think you ask Gary's parents about Gary's 32. - They would have bought him now. - No, he's 32 years later, what's that? - My question is-- - Oh, she is, okay. - She's like super sweet. I don't know what this fucking problem is. - First of all, I never supported a national ban. I did, during what I was running for Senate in 2022, talking about setting some minimum national standard. For example, we have a partial birth abortion ban in this place, in this country, at the federal level. I don't think anybody's trying to get rid of that, or at least I hope not, though I know that Democrats have taken a very radical pro-abortion stance, but Nora, you know, one of the things that changed-- - Brandon just texted me. - Is, in the state of Ohio, we had a referendum in 2023, and the people of Ohio-- - Do not put for the women. - Overwhelmingly, by the way, against my position, and I think that what I learned from that, Nora, is that we've got to do a better job at winning back people's trust. So many young women would love to have families. So many young women also see an unplanned pregnancy as something that's gonna destroy their livelihood, destroy their education, destroy their relationships, and we have got to earn people's trust back. And that's why Donald Trump and I are committed to pursuing pro-family policies, making childcare more accessible, making fertility treatments more accessible, 'cause we've got to do a better job at that, and that's where we leadership this. - It's almost continuously worried. - Brandon, you're a sponsor. - I'm gonna respond on the rule. - No, he's worried about getting raped. - No, we're not. It's a kind of women. - We're going to get in here and rape me any minute. - Freedom. - That's what happens especially when it's time and time. - Do you know what the implications are to not be that? Women having miscarriages, women not getting the care, physicians feeling like they may be prosecuted for providing that care, and as far as making sure that we're educating our children and giving them options, Minnesota State won the lowest teen pregnancy rates. We understand that too. We know that the options need to be available, and we make that true. - We also make it more as we stay for the best place to raise children. - I have a people's first thing to try and say. - I'm a fucking people's person. - What is it that you do? - But we don't like this or you guys are a person. - That's not the case at all. - Did they die? - No, freedom for women to make their choices. - Are you sure? - Yeah, that's awesome. - And they're going, and Kamala Harris is making the case. - I thought he was gonna make-- - She was sick or something. - I saw him somewhere recently. - Very well. - Good for him. - But we're not gonna base it on the backs of making someone like Amber Thurman drive six hundred miles to try and get healthy. - There's a lot of that. - There's a lot of that. First of all, Governor, I agree with you. Amber Thurman still likes you and a lot of people still be alive, but I certainly wish that she was. - And maybe-- - In a good way. - You're free to disagree with me on this and explain this to me, but as I read the Minnesota law that you signed into law, the statute that you signed into law, it says that a doctor who presides over an abortion where the baby survives, the doctor is under no obligation to provide life-saving care to a baby who survives a botched late-term abortion. That is, I think, whether you're pro-choice or pro-law. - That's not a 100%. - It's a 100% true. - That's fundamentally barbaric. And that's why I use that word, nor is because some of what we've seen, do you wanna force Catholic hospitals to perform abortions against their will? Because Kamala Harris is supported suing Catholic nuns to violate their freedom of conscience. We can be a big and diverse country where we respect people's freedom of conscience and make the country more pro-baby and pro-family, but please. - Yes, Governor, please respond. - Look, this is one where there's always something there. This is a very simple proposition. These are women's decisions to make about their health care decisions and the physicians who know best when they need to do this. Trying to distort the way a law is written to try and make a point. That's not it at all. - What was I wrong about, Governor? Please tell me, what was that wrong about? - That is not the way the law is written. Look, I've given how, I've given this advice on a lot of things that getting involved, getting engaged. That's been misread and it was fact-checked at the last debate. But the point on this is, is there's a continuation of these guys to try and tell women or to get involved. I use this line on this, just my own business on this. Things work best when Roe versus Wade was in place. When we do a restoration of Roe, that works best. That doesn't preclude us from increasing bonding for children. It doesn't increase us from making sure that once that child's born, like in Minnesota, they get meals, they get early childhood education, they get health care. So the hiding behind, we're gonna do all these other things. When you're not proposing them in your budget, Kamala Harris is proposing them. She's proposing all those things to make life easier for families. I asked a specific question, Governor, you gave me a slogan as a response. It's not the case, it's not true. That's not what the law says. So you fact checked it with President Trump. Gentlemen, there's a lot to discuss. We have to move on and we're gonna be right back. I can't do a lot to discuss vice presidential debate in just a moment. Every time Vance speaks. Commercial, commercial. You can go ahead and turn it down for a bit. We'll pull it back up as soon as obviously, both candidates come back after the commercial break. Right now, biggest takeaways. Vance has been in a courtroom for a majority of his life. He's very, very good at this. Walt has never been on this stage before. Boring. I'm convinced that if JD Vance was the presidential candidate, he'd be up by 50 points. I agree. If it was like a JD Vance toast he'd take it right now, it would be funny. It would be probably up by a mile. The reason this race is close is because Donald Trump is phenomenal. And it's only because people hate Trump. It's not because of anything he's ever actually done. And I think he shows JD Vance because he's only getting four years. So somebody's got to go in 28. He chose the guy most like himself 'cause he's an evil man. Yeah, but Vance is very good at this. He's very calm at this. And like I've said weeks and weeks and weeks ago on this show, he's been doing interviews with this particular woman for six fucking weeks. So like, he knows her. He knows how to combat her and everything else. And so far, it's a nice back and forth. And he answers all the fucking questions, which is what I've said for six weeks. Somebody asked me what I thought of the debate so far. Vance is good at debating and walls is obviously not. Vance has most of the facts on his side because he's appealing to a time when Trump, I mean, through no fault of his own frankly 'cause he wasn't even doing shit back then. He's just appealing to a successful Trump presidency for the most part, right? And walls is appealing to the last three and a half years, which sucks. So it's kind of like if walls is a better debate or the Vance, this would be a good debate, right? 'Cause each side would have a weapon. It's kind of fucking boring so far. Buttigieg tweeted, "Remarkable to CJD Vance, "pretend to be unaware the US energy production is up "and US manufacturing is up dramatically right now, "much higher than under Trump. "Glad, Tim Malls is laying down the facts here." And I said, "It was up 12.9% under your cunt admin. "It was up 25% under Trump. "Go back to breastfeeding your lab, baby bitch." - Look, that's important. I don't know for sure and maybe they can fact check me, CBS will fact check me on this. If it's him or his gay ass husband that's breastfeeding the baby, it could be either one of them so far as we know. - Not sure we don't have any proof yet. Now here's what I will say in all sincerity as far as walls is concerned in this. He's in a disadvantage. One, he was picked, what, 60 days ago. Two, he's got a run on her record for the last three and a half years, which sucks. And this is, I mean, he started in a fucking deep, deep hole and you gotta dig your way out of it. The problem is you already have four years worth of Trump, which we saw. You have the results you wanted and everything else so you can run off that record and now you're running off a Kamala's record. - That's tough. - Well, personally, is that a disadvantage? - That's what I'm saying. - Because he's gotta stick up for this administration which is fucking soft. - And he's not a good debater. - No, but he's not the worst in the world but that shit with China just said was brutal. - Right, no, look, it's not great but here's the thing. He was thrust into this situation. He didn't know. - You keep saying thrust and to be honest, I'm getting hard. - Well, if you want me to have sex with Tim Walts tonight, I will. - This is like forehead. - But here's why I said thrust is Kamala Harris said this earlier, I don't know if you saw the comments, she said she was suffering from insomnia once Biden decided to step down and she picked a candidate at the last minute and it was Tim Walts. She's not sure if she made the right decision, which was not great to say in an interview. Now, for Tim, again, he's 60 days away, man. He's probably doing the best that he can right now but you're also going up against a trial attorney who's had multiple interviews with this fucking person who's been combative against him forever. He's used to it, he's used to her cadence, everything else. She's trying to shut it down. He's shut down the fact checking earlier. He's probably doing the best he can at this point but there's no saving a record of what's going on now versus what happened in 2016 to 2020. - Yeah, I mean, he's like-- - Nothing you can do. - It's like listening to a Cowboys fan. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? That's kind of what it feels like. - This is our year. - It's a whole fucking deck. - Like no. - No. - No. - No. - Did you do it for the last four years? - No, and look, like I don't envy the position. All right, we're back. - We are back. By the way, if you guys wanna put those headsets on on the Ross Patterson Revolution set, feel free you guys can vote here. - Yeah, Gary, do your job position in our chairs. I prefer the girl to sit in my chair though. - I don't wanna smell you. - I don't wanna smell you. - I don't wanna smell you. - The leading cause of death for children and teens in America. - For real. It's not a vision on the white either. - Yeah, no, it is. - Is that too. - You're not white. - Senator Vance, you oppose most gun legislation that Democrats claim would curb gun violence. You oppose red flag gun laws. And legislation to ban certain semi-automatic rifles, including AR-15s. So let me ask you, earlier this year, for the first time, the parents of a school shooter were convicted of involuntary manslaughter and sentenced to 10 years in prison. Do you think holding parents responsible could curb mass shootings? I'll give you two minutes. - Yeah, well, Laura, on that particular case, I don't know the full details, but I certainly trust local law enforcement and local authorities to make those decisions. I think in some cases, the answer's gonna be yes, and in some cases, the answer's gonna be no. And the details really matter here, of course. For example, if a kid steals a gun, that's gonna be different than if a parent hands over a gun knowing that their kid is potentially dangerous. - Look, I wanna just sort of speak as a father of three beautiful little kids, and our oldest is now in second grade. And like a lot of parents, we send our kids to school with such hope and such joy and such pride at their little faces on the first day of school. And we know, unfortunately, that a lot of kids are gonna experience this terrible epidemic of gun violence. And of course, our hearts go out to the families that are affected by this terrible stuff. And we do have to do better. And I think that Governor Walts and I actually probably agree that we need to do better on this. The question is just how do we actually do it? Now, here's something that really bothers me and worries me about this epidemic of violence. The gross majority, close to 90% and some of the statistics I've seen of the gun violence in this country is committed with illegally obtained firearms. And while we're on that topic, we know that thanks to Kamala Harris' open border, we've seen a massive influx in the number of illegal guns run by the Mexican drug cartel. So that number, the amount of illegal guns in our country is higher today than it was three and a half years ago. But what do we do about the schools? What do we do to protect our kids? And I think the answer is, and I say this, not loving the answer, because I don't want my kids to go to school in a school that feels unsafe or where there are visible signs of security, but I unfortunately think that we have to increase security in our schools. We have to make the doors lock better. We have to make the doors stronger. We've gotta make the windows stronger. And of course, we've gotta increase school resource officers because the idea-- - I have done that at our school. - We have a wall on it, so I don't like Governor Abbott, but he has at least done that here. - It just doesn't fit with REITs and experience, so we've gotta make our schools safer. And I think we've gotta have some common sense bipartisan solutions for how to do that. - Governor, you have two minutes. - Well, I think all the parents watching tonight, this is your biggest nightmare. Look, I got a 17-year-old and he witnessed just shooting at a community center playing volleyball. Those things don't leave you. As a member of Congress, I sat in my office, surrounded by dozens of the San Diego parents, and they were looking at my seven-year-old picture on the wall. Their seven-year-old were dead, and they were asking us to do something. And look, I'm a hunter. I own firearms. The Vice President is. We understand that the Second Amendment is there, but our first responsibilities to our kids to figure this out. In Minnesota, we've enacted enhanced red flag laws, enhanced background checks, and we can start to get data. But here's the problem. If we really wanna solve this, we've got folks that won't allow research to be even done on gun violence. And this idea that we should just live with it, and here's what I do think, that this is a good start to the conversation. I 100% believe that Senator Vance hates it when these kids, it's abhorrent and it breaks your heart. I agree with that. But that's not far enough when we know there are things that work. I've spent time in Finland and seen some Finnish schools. They don't have this happen, even though they have a high gun ownership rate in the country. There are reasonable things that we can do to make a difference. Chocola, school shooting. It's not infringing on your Second Amendment. In 2007, in the largest school of shootings in the first period of work. It just doesn't make any sense. Kamala Harris, as an Attorney General, worked on this issue. She knows that it's there. No one's trying to scare monsters, they weren't taking your guns, but I have to look at you out there. Do you want your school to look like a fort? Is that what we have to go? And Norway right next door. There's countries around the world. Also high gun. But there are white nationalists there that kill the 80 people. They're being kids. We owe it to them to get a fix. These are things that shouldn't be that difficult. You can still keep your firearms and we can make a difference. We have to. If you're listening tonight, this breaks your heart. Senator. Tim, first of all, I didn't know that you're 17-year-old witness is shooting. And I'm sorry about that. And I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Christ have mercy. It is awful. And I appreciate what Tim said, actually, about Finland. Because I do think it illustrates some of the, frankly, weird differences between our own country's gun violence problem and Finland is, okay, first of all, we have way higher rates of mental health abuse or mental health substance abuse. We have way higher rates of depression, way higher rates of anxiety. We unfortunately have a mental health crisis in this country that I really do think that we need to get to the root causes of. Because I don't think it's the whole reason why we have such a bad gun violence problem. But I do think it's a big piece of it. Another driver of the gun violence epidemic, especially that affecting our kids, it doesn't earn as many headlines, but is the terrible gun violence problem in a lot of our big cities. And this is why we have to empower law enforcement to arrest the bad guys, put them away and take gun offenders off the streets. I think there's a whole host of things that we can do here, but I do think at our schools, we've got to talk about more security. Senator, thank you. Governor, you previously opposed an assault weapons ban, but it's only later in your political career, did you change your position, why? Yeah, I sat in that office with those San Diego parents. I've become friends with school shooters. I've seen it. Look, the NRA, I was NRA. I'm from front-time. You shouldn't shoot us. I'm of an age where my shotgun was in my car, so I could fathom an out. He says he misspoke today. Sometimes. And he obviously won a mansion on me. Talking about cities in where it's at, the number one where the most firearm deaths happen in Minnesota are rural suicides. And we have an epidemic of children getting guns and shooting themselves. No, no, no, no. And so we have-- That is not that-- --shoe football game not true. He just said the most gun deaths in Minnesota are rural suicides. This idea has been the case. Well, I might be-- 67% of all gun deaths are fucking suicide. And so almost certainly suicide outweighs-- First gate boat, yeah. Sometimes it just is the guns. It's just the gun. And there are-- You know, you can kill yourself with anything. I do think that this is one-- And they use guns. I mean, most gun deaths are-- I think there's capacity to fight. Right, like two to one. 60, seven. Yeah, about two to the one now. Gentlemen, thank you, Margaret. Thank you, Nora. Let's turn now to the top contributor to inflation, the high cost of housing and rent. There's a shortage of more than four million homes in the United States. So what I was talking about is Tim Walts running on a disadvantage. He's got to go up against all the shit. Governor Walts, the Harris campaign promises a $25,000 down payment assistance for first time home buyers and a $10,000 tax credit. $400 million to build 3 million new homes. If it was the guns, we would all be dead. Where are you building these homes and won't handing out that kind of money, just drive up prices higher? No, it's not handing out. We have-- first, let me say this. This issue of housing-- and I think those of you listening on this-- the problem we've had is that we've got a lot of folks that see housing as another commodity. It can be bought up. It can be shifted. It can be moved around. Those are not folks living in those houses. Those of you listening tonight, that house a big deal. I bought and owned one house in my life. My mom still lives in the house where I was. And when I think of a house, I'm thinking of Christmas services after midnight mass where you go with your family. We need to make it more affordable. And one of the things, as I said, this program-- Make more of it. Vice President-- That's the only way to make housing more affordable and to bring in more houses. And the way of approaching this is something we're doing in Minnesota from that lead. We in the state invested in making sure our housing was the biggest investment that we'd ever made in housing. It starts to make it easier. We've got some of the red tape, local folks. We can't do it at the federal level, but local folks make it easier to build those homes. And then that down payment assistance. I can tell all of you out there, one of the-- certainly for me, using the GI Bill was one thing, but a veteran's home loan. The big thing about a veteran's home loan is you don't have to pay the down payment, no PMI on it. Those are things that make it there. Now look, you're going to pay it back. And you're going to pay your mortgage. Those are things that we know in the long run, the appreciated value, the generational-- We're not giving stuff that we give to veterans who are less than a country. For example, to random people. I agree, you're a fucking veteran. There's a reason why that's in the end. We've seen a 12-year-old because it's going to veterans. Because it's going to put some of these things in. And we're implementing a state program to make sure we give some of that down payment assistance. We get it back from people. Because here's what we know. People with stable housing end up with stable jobs. People with stable housing have their kids able to be able to get to school. All of those things in the long run end up saving our money. And that's the thing that I think we should be able to find some common ground in. But we can't blame immigrants for the only reason. That's not the case that's happening in many cities. The fact of the matter is, is that we don't have enough, naturally affordable housing. But we can make sure that the government-- I think this is an issue we're both sides. Create that base. Governor, your time is out. Oh, you're not everybody. Most people agree on this. For your campaign's position, the promise is to seize federal lands to build homes, remove regulation, provide tax breaks, and come back on immigration, which you say pushes back prices. Why would they even block off? I agree with them. Where are you going to build all the new homes you're promising and what part of any of this land will provide immediate relief? You have two minutes. Well, first of all, Tim just said something that I agree with. We don't want to blame immigrants for higher housing prices, but we do want to blame Kamala Harris for letting in millions of illegal aliens into this country, which does drive up cost him $25 million-- Even if you pass the bill, $1.5 million. $1.5 million. Yes, we come in every year. That's why it's one of those. It wasn't any other year in American history other than a Kamala Harris fucking administration. That's why we don't pass the bill. That's why it says the bill is worthless. That if it happened right alongside massive increases in illegal alien populations under Kamala Harris' leadership. Now, Tim just mentioned a bunch of ideas. Now, some of those ideas I actually think are halfway decent. And some of them I disagree with. But the most important thing here is Kamala Harris is not running as a newcomer to politics. She is the sitting vice president. If she wants to enact all of these policies to make housing more affordable, I invite her to use the office that the American people already gave her, not sit around and campaign and do nothing-- It really is the excuse that she just has no influence over the American dream. I'll find the president on the floor. Walk down the fucking hall and say, hey, dude, we want to change the equation for American citizens-- We want to make a country better. Do you mind? You just don't know where the energy price is. Jesus Christ says drill be drill. What a weird thing to say. One of the biggest drivers of housing costs aside from illegal immigration is think about it. If a truck driver's paying 40% more for diesel, then the lumber he's delivering to the job site to build the house is also going to become a lot more expensive. If we open up American energy, you will get immediate pricing relief for American citizens, not by the way, just in housing, but in a whole host of other economic goods, too. Senator Vance, you still have 23 seconds there. Do you want to answer where a governor-- We will get to you in a moment. But Senator, where are you going to see the federal lands? Can you clarify? What Donald Trump has said is we have a lot of federal lands that aren't being used for anything. They're not being used for National Park. They're not being used. And they could be places where we build a lot of housing. And I do think that we should be-- Oh, these are freedom cities. These are the freedom cities. We have a lot of land that could be used. We have a lot of Americans that need homes. We should be kicking out illegal immigrants who are competing for those homes. And we should be building more homes for the American citizens who deserve to be here. Senator, your time is up. Governor, I do want to let you respond to the allegation that the vice president is letting in my friends. Well, of course, that's not true. And again, you have the facts. I guess we agreed not to fact check. I'll check it, but look, crossings are down compared to when Donald Trump left office. That is not fucking true. But it's not even close. Not even close. I was going to legal on this question. Immigrants crossing grilling houses in the central lane. I can read you the data right now, hang on. These are really important-- I just got this from-- No one doesn't have a letter. I just got this before and for control or on Sunday, actually. There's not a lot of federal lands in and around me now. In and around me now. So the issue is I don't understand a federal lands issue unless we see this. And I worry about this. This is so many years, eight, five, nine, five, nine, five, five, one, and a 2020, four, five, oh, four, oh, three, six, but just title 42 remain in Mexico. Because these lands protect their boom. The first year Biden Harris won 0.162, 0.167, 0.6, 0.6 million. That there's a chance to make money in 0.24 million. Let's sell it to people for that. I think there are better ways to do this. We've seen it in Minnesota. We're able to refurbish some of these houses. Everything he just said was a fucking lie. Literally, that's not true with immigration. The fact on this-- Everything he said to me was right there. Senator Banshee said you don't like the shit up on God. Which economists are saying that it is immigrants that's adding to the car? Governor, your time is up. But Senator, on that point, I might answer. If he wants to answer it, I'm going to go. Why wouldn't he be a pastor? Sorry, that I went over my time. He was a fucking gamer. What evidence do you have that migrants are part of this problem? Well, there's a federal reserve study that we're happy to share after the debate. We'll put it up on social media, actually, that really drills down on the connection between increased levels of migration, especially illegal immigration and higher housing prices. Now, of course, Margaret, that's not the entire driver of higher housing prices. It's also the regulatory regime of Kamala Harris. Look, we are a country of builders. We're a country of doers. We're a country of explorers. But we increasingly have a federal administration that makes it harder to develop our resources, makes it harder to build things, and wants to throw people in jail for not doing everything exactly as Kamala Harris says they have to do. And what that means is that you have a lot of people who would love to build homes, who aren't able to build homes. I actually agree with Tim Walts. We should get out of this idea of housing as a commodity. But the thing that is most turned housing into a commodity is giving it away to millions upon millions of people who have no legal right to be here. What are the federal regulations? I deal with this as a governor. You can very quickly reply. I'm sorry. I get this as a governor. And I don't necessarily disagree with that, that in some cases, many of those are local. Many of them are state. I don't know which ones are federal. But I think whenever we talk regulations, people think they can get rid of them. I think you want to be able to get out of your house in a fire. I think you want to make sure that it's fireproof and those types of things. So which are the regulations? Because the vice president's not responsible for those Congress rights those. Governor, thank you. Gentlemen, we have a lot to give to your past-- I can't drink-- about the housing crisis, I can tell. We have a lot to get to. They don't let them answer a fucking rebuttal. One of the top problems facing Americans is the high cost of health care. I need more booze, more hard-ass shelter. Senator Vance, at the last presidential debate, former President Trump was asked about replacing the Affordable Care Act. In response, he said, I have concepts of a plan. Since then, Senator, you've talked about changing how chronically ill Americans get health insurance. Can you explain how that would work? And can you guarantee that Americans with pre-existing conditions won't pay more? I'll give you two minutes. Well, of course, we're going to cover Americans with pre-existing conditions. In fact, a lot of my family members have gotten health care. I believe members of my family actually got private health insurance, at least for the first time, switched off of Medicaid onto private insurance for the first time under Donald Trump's leadership. And I think that a lot of people have criticized this concept of a plan remark. It gets very simple common sense. I think as Tim Walz knows from 12 years in Congress, you're not going to propose a 900-page bill standing on a debate stage. It would bore everybody to tears. And it wouldn't actually mean anything because part of this is the give and take of bipartisan negotiation. Now, when Donald Trump was actually president-- and, again, he has a record to be proud of-- prescription drugs fell in 2018 for the first time in a very long time. Under Kamala Harris's leadership, prescription drugs are up about 7% under Donald Trump's entire four years. They were up about 1 and 1/2%. He introduced pricing transparency. You think about health care. You go into a hospital. You try to buy something. And nobody knows what it actually costs. That price transparency will actually give American consumers a little bit more choice. And we'll also drive down costs. And we talked about the reinsurance regulations is what I was talking about. Look, Donald Trump has said that if we allow states to experiment a little bit on how to cover both the chronically ill but the non-cronically ill, it's not just a plan. He actually implemented some of these regulations when he was president of the United States. And I think you can make a really good argument that it salvaged Obamacare, which was doing disastrously until Donald Trump came along. And I think this is an important point about President Trump. Of course, you don't have to agree with everything that President Trump has ever said or ever done. But when Obamacare was crushing under the weight of its own regulatory burden and health care costs, Donald Trump could have destroyed the program. Instead, he worked in a bipartisan way to ensure that Americans had access to affordable care. It's not perfect, of course. And there's so much more that we can do. But I think that Donald Trump has earned the right to put in place some better health care policies. He's earned it because he did it successfully the first time. - Governor. - All right, here's where being an old guy gives you some history. I was there at the creation of the ACA. And the reason it was so important-- - It was 2011. - Yeah. - What the fuck are you talking about? - I was there too, dude. - Home of the Mayo Clinic, home to medical alley. - Right, it's crazy. - It's 3M, Medtronic. All of those. - What the fuck is he talking about? - It's why we're ranked on the first 20 of it. - On the first 20 of it. - On the first 20 of it. - You were 70, 80 years old. - And so what I know. - We're not fact checking. - You heard the fucking honor-- - More people are covered than they have before. And those of you listening, this is critical to you. Now Donald Trump all of a sudden wants to go back and remember this. He ran on the first thing he was gonna do on day one was to repeal Obamacare. On day one, he tried to sign an executive order to repeal the ACA. He signed on to a lawsuit to repeal the ACA but lost at the Supreme Court. And he would have repealed the ACA, had it not been for the courage of John McCain to save that bill. Now fast forward, what that means to you is you lose your pre-existing conditions. If you're setting-- - I just like I lost my doctor. - I lost my doctor. - I lost my doctor. - Broke your foot during football, might kick you out. Your kids get kicked out when they're 26. - I lost my doctor. - Come on here and negotiate a drug crisis for the first time with Medicare. We have 10 drugs that will come online, the most common ones that'll be there. But look, this issue. And when Donald Trump said, "I've got a concept of a plan," it cracked me up as a fourth grade teacher because my kids would have never given me that. But what Senator Vance just explained might be worse than a concept. Because what he explained is pre-Obama care. And I'll make this as simple as possible 'cause I have done this for a long time. What they're saying is if you're healthy, why should you be paying more? So what they're gonna do is let insurance companies pick who they ensure because guess what happens? You pay your premium, it's not much. They're figure they're not gonna have to pay out to you. But those of you a little older gray? - Communism. - Communism. - That's what you're saying. - You're gonna get kicked out of it. - I'm healthy, I take care of my body. - Complex, Harris will protect and enhance the EOL and I work out, and I'm not a fat piece of shit like you. But I have to pay for your fucking health care. It's not fair that my health care's cheaper than that. - That's been the argument forever. - Gives and regulations in the place in place right now that protect people with preexisting conditions, we wanna keep those regulations in place. - God damn it. - But we also wanna make the health insurance - You're not entitled to anybody else's fucking money 'cause you can't stop stuff in your fat fucking face. - That is actually not true. A lot of what happened in the reason that Obamacare was crushing under its own weight is that a lot of young and healthy people were leaving the exchanges. Donald Trump actually helped address that problem and he did so in a way that preserved people's access to coverage who had preexisting conditions. But again, something that these guys do is they make a lot of claims about if Donald Trump becomes president, all of these terrible consequences are gonna ensue. But in reality, Donald Trump was president. Inflation was low, take-home pay was higher and he saved the very program from a democratic administration that was collapsing and would have collapsed absent his leadership. He did his job which is governed in a bipartisan way and get results, not just complain about problems but actually solve them. - Governor did enrollment under the Affordable Care Act go up under the Trump administration? - It's entire now that we've seen it go up. - Look, people are using it, the system works. And the question about this, people are using it, whatever, that's the individual mandate. - Yeah, then I'm what you're talking about. - And Republicans fought to the name-- - You literally pass the law-- - Where they get fined. - When they have individual mandates, it's a good idea. - At tax time. - I think the idea of making sure-- - People are using it 'cause we've broken a force into it, which is why the insurance works. When it doesn't, it collapses. You are asking pre-ACA where we get people out. Look, people know that they need to be on healthcare. People expect it to be there. And when we are able to make it, and we are making it this way, when we incentivize people to be in the market, when we help people who might not be able to afford it get there, and we make sure then, when you get sick and old, it's there for you. Because I heard people say, "Well, I don't wanna buy into Medicare," whatever, "Good luck buying healthcare once you get past 70." So look, the ACA works. We can continue to do better. Kamala Harris did that. The way she made everything better-- - That 70 goes to Medicare. - We're appreciating those 10 drugs on Medicare for the first time in American history. - Thank you, Margaret. - Can I address that? - I apologize. We're out of time. - You're not out of time. That's the night time you said that. - That's a couple of families in America. - Fuckin' A, dude. - There is a child care. - You're gonna get me wasted tonight. - And the United States is one of the very few developing countries in the world. - Jesus Christ. - Without a national paid leave program for new parents. Governor Walz, you said that if Democrats win both the White House and Congress, this is a day one priority for you. How long should a four year be required to pay workers while they are home taking care of their newborns? You have to-- - Do you want somebody else to pay for it for you? - Yeah, I do. - That's good. - I want Tim Walz to pay for my Uber tonight. - Congress worked, but here's what they do. - Now, pay for yourself, you drunk bitch. - American setting out there right now. You may work for a big company. Look, we're home in Minnesota to some of the largest fortune 500 companies. Kamala Harris knows that and are in California. Those companies provide paid family medically. One is, I think they're moral and they think it's a good thing, but it also keeps their employees healthy. We in Minnesota passed a paid family medical leave. You have a child, you, and I had to go back to work five days after my kids were born. This allows you to stay home a certain amount of time. What we know is-- - Fuck you. It is not up to a better start. - To everybody else to subsidize you, stay home with your kids. - We get more consistent. - God damn it. - So Kamala Harris has made it a priority. We implemented it in Minnesota and we see growth. That's how you become a pro-business state, but the negotiations on it, and here's the issue. Those big companies are able to offer it. Those of you out there who don't have it, just imagine what happens if you get cancer or your child gets sick. We know what happens. You end up staying home. In some cases, that means no paycheck 'cause you've got no protection on that. This is the case of an economy that Donald Trump has said for the wealthiest amongst us. He's willing to give those tax breaks to the wealthiest. He's willing to say, bust those unions up, do whatever. - Fuck yeah. - What we're saying is the best time we want to invest when it works for all of us. And so a paid family medical leave program, and I will tell you, go to the families or go to the businesses and ask them, as far as childcare on this, you have to take it out. - The government doesn't have the right to take your money away and give it to somebody else. - You can't expect them to give it to somebody else. - To take it out. - We literally fought a goddamn revolution to get paid over a 2% tax on teams. - And we have to make it easier for folks to be able to get into that business. - And to make sure that folks are able to pay for that. - We were able to do it in Minnesota, and I'm still telling you this. We were listed as the best state we're still in crisis on this. A federal program of paid family medical leave and help with this will enhance our families. And make it easier to have the children that you want. - Governor, your time is up. - Governor, do you support a national paid leave program and so for how long should employers be mandated to pay their employees while they are home taking care of their newborn, two minutes? - No, yes. - First of all, Margaret, a number of Republican colleagues and not Democrats who have worked on this issue. And I think there is a bipartisan solution because a lot of us care about this issue. I mean, look, I speak from this very personally because I'm married to a beautiful woman. - Let's get back to that. - Who's an incredible mother to our three beautiful kids, but is also a very, very brilliant corporate litigator. And I'm so proud of her, but being a working mom, even for somebody with all of the advantages of my wife is extraordinarily difficult. And it's not just difficult from a policy perspective. She actually had access to paid family leave because she worked for a bigger company. But the cultural pressure on young families and especially young women, I think makes it really hard for people to choose the family model they want. A lot of young women would like to go back to work immediately. Some would like to spend a little time home with the kids. Some would like to spend longer at home with the kids. We should have a family care model that makes choice possible. And I think this is a very important substantive difference between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris's approach. I mean, look, if you look at the federal programs that we have that support paid family leave right now, the community development block grant, and there's another block grant program that spends a lot of money from the federal government, these programs only go to one kind of childcare model. Let's say you'd like your church, maybe, to help you out with childcare. Maybe you live in a rural area or an urban area and you'd like to get together with families in your neighborhood to provide childcare. - 800 bucks a kind of money that makes some of those. - Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? So my current, we actually found a pretty good one in town that's like 900 a month, but it's like half a day. - Yeah, it's through the fucking roof. So mine is 1600 right now. - So my full day childcare was 1500 per child. - So mine is 1600 for three days a week. - Yeah, that was five days for me. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - By the way, that is, we also live in a awesome word. - It does, I think we can do a heck of a lot. - Same with Los Angeles. - Yes. - So like, it is also where you live. - Yeah, it's because the battle is over there. - But where you choose to live, and like, I know that I choose to live here and I choose to live in Los Angeles. - The federal reserve says current-- - Both of these cities are fucked, so like-- - But yeah, but even in smaller cities, it's like 600, 800 bucks a month. - And by the way, I live in goddamn drippings for-- - So I want to get your songs. - Yeah, I'm not even in the same county as Austin. Now I understand it's expensive, and my kid's childcare was full of Teslas in the parking lot and shit like that, but she had a stolen one of those Teslas, dude. I know, right? Those batteries are 25K. - But they don't have enough fucking centers for schools or all that shit. - I am firmly of the belief it's got to be a supply issue. So if you're not going to do it with tax credits-- - They can't get in. - You've got to submit to your advance. - You're not going to do it with tax credits, which I do support tax credits for now. - I agree, I agree. - And you need to, I guess, deregulate, but I don't love the idea of deregulating-- - Slave laborers. - What are you going to do, regulate and childcare? Like, I don't want to just-- - 'Cause you don't know who's with your children all over the world. - Here's what I'm talking about. - Here's an idea. - How about we don't take 40% of people's money? - Cut taxes for this fucking Ukraine. - I agree, I agree. - That would help a lot. - Then mothers probably wouldn't be working in the first 100% countries that are shipping jobs overseas. That's the heart of the economic proposal. - But childcare is fucking enough. - What President Trump is saying is that when we bring in this additional money-- - I mean, you could bring every missile back from Ukraine and it's not going to put $17,000 in-- - You would certainly help and work out a lot. - But you don't have to-- - It's a much more pervasive issue than military spending. - No, no, no. - The military spending, like it solves the ground care shortage. - It's got to be rid of-- - It's got to be rid of it. - Because every other-- - Like all funding for every other country that I've done with it. - I still don't think it would make it dead. - Like a really-- - Like a $17,000 per family per child. - Well, if we're going to use tax revenue and all the government influence and do all this shit, why don't we use tax revenue and government employees to increase the amount of mothers who are homeless with their own children? - Instead of depending on creepy weirdos. - It's very essential service. - To come fucking parent your kids and some fucking brick building down the street. - That's weird as hell. - It's an interesting debate because-- - It is. - Because if you could, especially because the people who are paying for childcare are typically like higher skill workers, like higher earning workers, right? So if you put higher earning workers back in the workforce quicker, then that income stays and then that money gets fed more. - The women's, the gender pay gap is almost entirely limited in the workforce for a time to have children. - And let's be clear. And raise them, right? Like it's mostly that. - But I'm in a household with both parents working and it's like, all right. - Because we got out of an imbalance on this. We thought we were gonna get by by pay. - My wife does not work right now to help with childcare expenses. - What are you talking about on? - Well, most of the women I knew 10 years ago that had young kids. They were working-- - The issue here is-- - Part-time jobs just for-- - You're not gonna pay for it with these tariffs to pay for it and another $4,000 on the pay. - And as after a volunteer started to have to go to the health insurance. - So not only did they not get the money for that, they're $4,000 in the whole. That's Wharton School. That's his alma mater. And so I think the issue here is-- - Why don't they keep bringing up the Wharton School? - I don't know. - Those members of Congress-- - It's the worst one. - It's their worst one. - It's their worst talk about taxes. - No, sometime. But they didn't-- - No, he did go there. - Well, I'm sorry. I thought he was ripping on-- - No, no, no. - The Trump went there. - No, no, no, no. - I don't talk about it there. I thought he was ripping on fans of Yale. I heard the wrong school. - Governor, thank you. We need to move on. - Nora, let's talk about the state of democracy, the top issue for Americans after the economy and inflation. After the 2020 election, President Trump's campaign and others filed 62 lawsuits contesting the results. Judges, including the appointed-- - So democracy, by the way, is it numbers three? - And other Republican presidents-- - The economy? - Looked at the evidence. - Immigration. - We said there was no widespread talk. - Three is crime, probably. - The governor's. - Every state in the nation-- - Stop cutting kids' dicks off. - Republicans. - And Democrats. - And Democrats. - Certified, the 2020 election results. - And sent a legal plate of electors to Congress. - I don't hear any normal people talk about democracy in real life like this is a weird talk point. - You have said you would not have certified the last presidential election and would have asked the states to submit alternative electors. That has been called unconstitutional and illegal. Would you again seek to challenge this year's election results, even if every governor certifies the results, I'll give you two minutes. - Well, Nora, first of all, I think that we're focused on the future. We need to figure out how to solve the inflation crisis caused by Kamala Harris's policies, make housing affordable, make groceries affordable, and that's what we're focused on. But I wanna answer your question because you did ask it. Look, what President Trump has said is that there were problems in 2020, and my own belief is that we should fight about those issues, debate those issues peacefully in the public square, and that's all I've said, and that's all that Donald Trump has said. Remember, he said that on January the 6th, the protesters ought to protest peacefully, and on January the 20th, what happened? Joe Biden became the president, Donald Trump left the White House, and now, of course, unfortunately, we have all of the negative policies that have come from the Harris-Biden administration. I believe that we actually do have a threat to democracy in this country, but unfortunately, it's not the threat to democracy that Kamala Harris and Tim Walts wanna talk about. - Because JD Vance doesn't know we're not a democracy. - It's a censorship. - Americans casting aside the right for friendships, because of disagreements over politics. It's big technology companies silencing their fellow citizens, and it's come on here saying, "We're silent by this fucking bullshit. "We're not a democracy." She'd like to sense we are. - We are not a democracy. - We are. - We are. - Our party on the most fucking threat to democracy, that anything we've seen in this country, we are 100%. - The last four years, I've been a Republican, a subset of it about no offense. - We're at the minute. - The secret box, your liberal is showing you, you're touching the fucking internet. - We're talking to the whole internet. - There's been one direct democracy there. - And it's time that liberal and it's taken home with your bonkers. - There's been one direct democracy in the absolute history of the world. - Totally. - And the force of three bs on every issue. - And it's not semantic, a democracy is where a bunch of people vote to put leaders in power, to give those leaders unchecked power to govern over the country. A constitutional republic, as when people vote for leaders in power and they are bound by a constitution. That's a difference, it's not fucking semantic. - And freedom of speech, which you know Bob, working here for four fucking years, we don't have on this goddamn channel. - Yeah, especially on that piece of shit. - You know that piece of shit. - Fuck you. - This will be protests on January the 6th. - What else? - Governor. - Wait, what? - I was going to be like tonight. - I think it was a lot of commonalities here. - Jesus Christ. You have the numbers behind the scenes, you know what's going on here. - Well, that's what I'm going to be talking to. - What are you talking to? - What are you talking to? - What are you talking to? - Freedom of speech. - What are you talking about? - What are you talking about? - I don't know what you're talking about. - I don't know what you're talking about. - What are you talking about? - I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what you're talking about. - It's a publicly traded company, ABC. - And said we're marching to the governor - Yeah, or maybe casually. - I'm not cool with it, but you don't have a right necessarily on a private car. I'm not cool with it, and the free market should solve that. - Well, they're not solving it, Bob. - So who do you need to intervene in the federal government? You fucking communist. - Yes, the federal government has got to say, "Hey, dude, freedom is peace, freedom is peace." - No, that's not what the government is doing. - It's a fucking, it's a fucking, it's not. - The market is not, Bob, and when you're on the job next year, I want to fucking remind you of that. - How is the federal government going to intervene or not intervene when the federal government is literally paying the platforms to censor people? - Over and over and over again. - We have the Twitter files, we have all of it. - I'm not saying it's good. I'm saying you can claim freedom of speech in a private space. Now, if you want the Supreme Court to adjudicate that, and I think they should, and you impose this sort of town square model, but that has not, has that been adjudicated in any way whatsoever. - Only for the, I guess, section two and 30s of the internet and then mobbed back in the day, but not, not really. - And that, by the way, has the new thing to do with the form of government we live under. And again, all I'm saying is it's just a pedantic, semantic situation. The same way, socially. - Well, Bob, I know you're a fucking liberal. I know you're going to vote and demonstrate. I know you love walls, I know you love Paris. If you love your family, it's all that other shit. - None of that is the case. - It is. It is. It's fucking it. Both of you guys are liberal as shit. And like, this just, this continues. The last four years, first of all, businesses have been awful. You won't both be out of jobs. - Gary, you better be careful. You're going to get your liberal if you sit there. - Is there any other media company that's paying you what you're getting now? - Here's the deal, the shake hands. This stuff has already been taken care of with Sherman anti-trust laws. These companies should have been broke apart a long time ago, like years and years ago, and they are throttling people. There is discrimination involved. In Texas, we can legally sue. We can sue social media platforms. - I'm suing everybody. - This has been taken care of. And it is technically illegal at this point. - We just really haven't heard anything on this shit. - Because the Russians bought like 500,000, what are they even talking about now? Usually the back end of these debates is just bullshit. - Dude, like I said, walls is getting like cooked. - Look at his face. Look at his face. He sounds like a ginger. He is a ginger. - This is just a problem that Republicans have had. - What did he actually teach? Wasn't it history or something? - Well, I feel like he's a coach, and so a coach doesn't teach it real. You know what I mean? - Revisionist history on this. Look, I don't understand how we got to this point, but the issue was that happened. Don't forget. And a lot of people were asking for Gary. - No, Gary. Gary is free. - Gary, well, he's as free as somebody like Henderson to be. Actually, that's not true. He deserves to be a person to be honest. - That's not seeing a lot of Bob's shit. - Right. - Censorship is book banning. We've seen that wrong. - I've just seen the chat. I just recorded one of those things, Chad. - Everyone tonight. - Fire these clowns is what I just read. Did you read something different? - Bob is the guy with the conversation they were eating. - Bob is the guy with the conversation they were eating. - And I think there's a lot of people with this one of your Miles Love You Delco and Bob. - This was a great democracy in a way that we had not seen. I had to probably be alright with that. - Because of Don Trump's inability to say he can't watch a baseball game with Gary with the selection. I would just ask that. Did he lose the 20? - I don't even know how hard it was behind the scenes to run a fucking small business. - The last four years. - Dan Kasey versus Trump's. - Bob sits to piss. - That's not the first. - That's the 2020 COVID situation. - To make Bob wear a Trump hat. - That is a damning non- prep. - It's a damning non- prep. - The Make-A-M-Air great answer like made for me. It speaks to my white soul. It's just like I own like 12 hats. - It's that undocumented. - It's that undocumented. - I choose in a fucking obvious letter. - For not believing in democracy. - The most vacation type. - Under the United States democracy is the First Amendment. You yourself have said there's no First Amendment right to misinformation. Kamala Harris wants to use the power of government and big tech to silence people from speaking their minds. That's a directed democracy that will long outlive this present political moment. I would like Democrats and Republicans to both reject censorship. Let's persuade one another. Let's argue about ideas and then let's come together afterwards. - You can't yell "Fire in a Crowded Theater." That's the test. - Oh boy. - Literally. - Tim, "Fire in a Crowded Theater." You guys wanted to kick people off of Facebook for saying that Toddler shouldn't wear a mask. - Senator, the governor does have the floor. - Sorry. - The "Fire in a Crowded Theater." That is criticizing the policies of the government, which is the right of every American. - Senator, the governor does have the floor for one minute to talk to you. - Please. - Yeah. Well, I don't run Facebook. What I do know is, is I see a candidate out there. - Senator, the governor, absolutely. - Who refused. - Who refused. - And now, again, and they're trying to quantify this. - Senator, the Republican. - He lost the election. This is not a debate. It's not anything anywhere other than in Donald Trump's world, because look, when Mike Pence made that decision to certify that election, that's why Mike Pence isn't on this stage. What I'm concerned about is where is the firewall with Donald Trump? Where is the firewall? If he knows, he could do anything including taking an election, and his vice president's not going to stand to it. That's what we're asking you, America. Will you stand up? Will you keep your oath of office? - The vice can't certify an election. - The president doesn't. And I think Kamala Harris would agree. - Not really a valid question. - Unless she's asking for 2028. - Because, of course, that's what we would do. - Well, he would be the president. - I think you guys wanted to be really clear. - You know, but he'll electrify his own. Wait, is that how that works? If you're a Vice President running, oh, God, that's all it is. - That's the same as Secretary of State Shit in Arizona last time. - We would be right back with both of our - Yeah, both Camp and the Arizona State were Secretary of State when they ran for governor. - That's the state, though, but is that, like, does the BP, the country, certify his own election if he's the one, did George H.W. Bush certify his own election? That seemed like a conflict. - Not sure. - I want to be the speaker or something like that. - But here's why I'm so passionate about this. I sit in these fucking meetings. I just sat in one with Gary on Saturday. I was working on a fucking Saturday. Gary was here doing drugs somewhere. We sat in this fucking phone call. Remember, this motherfucker gave us a number for a person within Facebook and Instagram to call and pay in a separate account to get our fucking shit unthrottled. To get all this. Oh, man, you guys are known for posting disinformation. Tag Drinking Bros on Instagram right now. - Tag @ Drinking Bros podcast. It will tell you, these guys have been known to post mints information for years, which is still like to tag them. - These private companies fucking sucked me and Bob lost our jobs because of it. - They're not private companies, though. They're publicly traded. - They were at the time. - But, and who's standing up for them? Who's paying them? - When did you get fired because Facebook went public? - Facebook had gone public at that point. - 20, what was it, 2016? - Hold on, but I will publicly trade a company isn't beholden to the SEC, Bob. They're a hundred percent beholden. Everything, every single thing they do is beholden. - Zuckerberg went on Rogan, said he got threatened by the government over and over and over again. Elon Musk did. Like, all these fucking guys did. We see what's happening behind the scenes. I can post the fucking screenshot. Try this at home. Go to Instagram. Just tag @drinkandbrospodcast in any post you want. It'll ask you, are you sure you want to do this? - These guys have been known to post disinformation. - But then, like, on the other hand, or on the other side of that debate, who exactly am I trusting to, if it's the federal government that's telling Facebook to censor people, then what is a different agency in the federal government going to tell them to stop? Like, what the fuck are we doing here? You know what I mean? - You got to open it up like a town square, and whatever happens happens at that point. Like, yes, you want to block hate speech. Can't say the fucking N word or a fight, sir. Say whatever you want. Say whatever you want. If something's a crime, you can prosecute somebody for it. If it's not, give me the ability to block them, because I don't want to see it. That's the end of the fucking conversation. - But we have the ability to block people now. - Well, for now, because Twitter is ending that, actually. They're taking the block feature away soon. - They're taking block and meet-a-way, Elon, and I'll say, yeah. - Well, for the people to see it, right? So you can see it if you want to see it, if you don't want to see it, you don't want to fucking see it. - Which I like, because I say, faggot a lot on Twitter, and it gets blocked every single time. - Every single time. - I've never set it to a gay person. I never would, because if they were being a faggot, I would, but not if they're not because they're gay. - But for you, it is an endearing term, and it's like, hey, dude, it's, you know- - There is a line, though, that all these companies, so let's just set a reasonable line, right? Like, I want to have a social media company, and I want people to be able to talk on it, and post fun stuff, right? And then someone's like, well, my fun stuff is DP anal. So I would like to post DP anal videos on your social media site. And then the social media site is like, no, we don't want DP anal. So now it's not yes to everything, right? Now you start taking things off, because they can set the standards of what they want on their platform. - But there is a law, for that example, there is a law for pornography, it's got to be 18 and up. - But what's, that's fairly arbitrary, don't you think? - I do, yeah. - It is, to be honest, but it's, so is cigarettes at 18, or boys at 21, right? All these arbitrary lines are set, so once you start setting arbitrary lines, - Well, we've done it for years already. - You can't necessarily tell a company that has its own entity, what is a right or wrong arbitrary line for their platform to set? - Well, Texas did. - Texas did. - And North Carolina did, I mean, it was a mistake, I think, but they definitely did it. - And then the government is telling who to censor for certain individuals, and we saw that with the Twitter files, we saw that with everything else. - The point is, is that the arbitrary lines are supposed to be dictated by the free market, right? - Yes, but how do you, I mean, if, when a public, or when a company goes public like that, and then the SEC has jurisdiction over them, how do you even manage that situation at that point? I don't know the answer. - We are in a very new world. Not my point being in all, I agree with you, these companies are being fucking assholes, and there's a lot of antitrust bullshit, they're basically giant monopolies. - Maybe we should just whip their ass. - So, but take yesterday's show, for example, the fake news yesterday. We've blocked political ads on all of our shit. A listener hit us up and he said, "Hey, dude, there is a Project 2025 ad running before your show." - Like an anti-one? - We did not fucking promote that. We did not, I think the guy on Twitter, he was a listener of ours. I thanked him, you can go back to the debate now, but I thanked him because even all the shit that I blocked is in there. The support of the democracy matters, it matters that you're here. And I'm as surprised as anybody of this coalition that Kamala Harris has built, from Bernie Sanders to Dick Cheney to Taylor Swift, and a whole bunch of folks in between there. And they don't all agree on everything, but they are truly optimistic people. - Bob, I sent you a t-shirt. - They both beat in a positive future of this country. And one where our politics can be better than it is. And I have to tell you, that better than it is, is the sense of optimism that there can be an opportunity economy that works for everyone, not just to get by, but to get ahead. And the idea that freedom really means something, not the freedom of government to be in your bedroom or exam room, but the freedom for you to make choices about yourself. Now look, we all know who Donald Trump is. He's told us, and as Maya Angelou said, believe him when he told you that. His first inaugural address talked about American carnage. And then he spent four years trying to maybe do that. Senator Vance tonight made it clear, he will stand with Donald Trump's agenda. He will continue to push down that road. Excuse me. Kamala Harris gives us a different option. Now I'll have to tell you, I'm going to be careful about the quotes, but there's one that Senator Vance said that does resonate with me. He said Donald Trump makes the people I care about afraid. A lot of America feels that way. We don't need to be afraid. Franklin Roosevelt was right. All we have to fear is fear itself. Kamala Harris is bringing us a new way for it. She's bringing us a politics of joy. She's bringing real solutions for the middle class. And she's centering you at the heart of that. All the while asking everyone, join this movement. Make your voices heard. Let's look for a new day where everybody gets that opportunity, and everybody gets a chance to do it. I humbly ask for your vote on November 5th for Kamala Harris. Governor Walz, thank you. Senator Vance, your closing statement. Why would I think Governor Walz, you folks at CBS, and of course the American people for tuning in this evening. And one of the issues we didn't talk about was energy. And I remember when I was being raised by my grandmother, when she didn't have enough money to turn on the heat some nights because Ohio gets pretty cold at night, and because money was often very tight. And I believe, as a person who wants to be your next vice president, that we are a rich and prosperous enough country where every American, whether they're rich or poor, ought to be able to turn on their heat. In the middle of a cold winter night, that's gotten more difficult, thanks to Kamala Harris' energy policies. I believe that whether you're rich or poor, you ought to be able to afford a nice meal for your family. That's gotten harder because of Kamala Harris' policies. I believe that whether you're rich or poor, you ought to be able to afford to buy a house, you ought to be able to live in safe neighborhoods, you ought to not have your communities flooded with fentanyl, and that too has gotten harder because of Kamala Harris' policies. Now, I've been in politics long enough to do what Kamala Harris does when she stands before the American people and says that on day one, she's going to work on all these challenges I just listed. She's been the vice president for three and a half years. Day one was 1,400 days ago, and her policies have made these problems worse. Now, I believe that we have the most beautiful country in the world. I meet people on the campaign trail who can't afford food, but have the grace and generosity to ask me how I'm doing, and to tell me their plan for my family. What that has taught me is that we have the greatest country, the most beautiful country, the most incredible people anywhere in the world, but they're not going to be able to achieve their full dreams with the broken leadership that we have in Washington. They're not going to be able to live their American dream if we do the same thing that we've been doing for the last three and a half years. We need change. We need a new direction. We need a president who has already done this once before and did it well. Please vote for Donald Trump and whether you vote for me or vote for Tim Walz, I just want to say I'm so proud to be doing this and I'm rooting for you. God bless you and good night. Senator Vance, thank you and thank you both for participating in the only vice presidential debate on this election cycle. I'm Margaret Brennan. And I'm Nora O'Donnell and a reminder there are just 35 days until election day. Please get out and vote and for all of us here on CBS News. Thank you and good night. [Music] Are you can cut out of this now. So what are your thoughts here? I know what the media is going to say on this one, but yeah. Yeah, I mean Vance is obviously quite a bit better at this than Walz is. Most of the facts I would say are on his side. There are some interesting intersection. I think there's a lot of, especially on housing. I think that most people agree that we've got a big problem with housing. The partisan folks are going to get caught up in a debate about who did what and blah, blah, blah and look there's some justification for that because rooting out the cause of a problem is a good way to solve it. But the solution, this is basic market economics, the best solution to rising costs in an industry is produce more of that thing, supply demand. I mean it's fucking simple, right? Build more houses. Now you do that. Now you can start talking about these other downstream issues like energy, which they didn't even fucking talk about. Gas prices are about 50 fucking 6% in this country. Energy costs totally, right? Or up 56%. That means that usually about 40% of that is passed on to the consumer. So you're talking about what is that? 28% give or take or that would be 50. So 24%, 24% higher costs on everything. They get shipped because of gas. That's fucking crazy, right? So I feel like they intentionally probably dodged that energy thing. They didn't talk about food costs. Like the moderators didn't bring that shit up. No, energy of food costs. Those are two things that are most affecting Americans right now. Energy and food. Energy and food. Energy and food. Those are two things you need to stay alive, right? It's why they removed them from this new calculation of inflation. They never brought it up because they know that walls lose us on those issues. I thought Vance did a great job. The thing he could have done better was to make that connection linearly, right? When they started talking about immigrant housing, blah, blah, blah. So look, fuck all that. And he did mention it. He didn't mention that energy costs are leading to that stuff. I think he should have hammered that home more. But otherwise, pretty flawless execution from him. On wall side, that China thing was fucking weird. That was very weird. I don't know that he was anticipating being asked about that maybe because there wasn't a good answer. And I don't know if there's anything going on with that or not. We'll talk more about it on Thursday, but he's not a good debater. And again, like you said, which is what I thought coming into this. He's a relief pitcher coming in with the bases loaded. I think he did an okay job based on what he was given, frankly. He's not given much. No, he's a total fucking Marxist retard and he's also a coward who abandoned his men before what would have been his only fucking deployment to an overseas location. He didn't bring up. No, he didn't, but he is a piece of shit as a human being. However, just for the sake of this particular debate, I thought he did okay. I mean, given the conditions. Well, what are you going to do, right? So you've had four years of a fucking disaster versus the other four years that was pretty successful for everybody in America. Yeah, dude. And then he's got to be the VP for maybe the dumbest person on the face of the fucking planet who's been unburdened by what has been done. There's nothing you can really do about that. Well, I mean, if you're starting with two outs, it's nothing you can do for him. Yeah, yeah. So yes, I have sympathy for him in that regard. But then my sympathy immediately goes away. One, when I remember he's an absolute Marxist and a coward. And then two, that other people, Whitmer and Shapiro were smart enough to say no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. To take to the Harris. Yeah, like they said no and I'm like, all right, cool. My sympathy is run out for you then. And for me, like I'm out of fucking patience with this whole goddamn presidential thing, like all together. The last four years has been a fucking nightmare. To try to run a small business, employ people who are in the middle class and everything else was awful. And guess what? It was awful under Bush as well. And like I have no fucking problem throwing him or the fucking bus either. And like why people can't admit that. And then instead with a closing statement again, but it's joy. Joy of what? Joy means I don't have to look at my bank account. Joy means I don't have to care about my grocery bills. Joy means I can drive by a fucking gas station and know that it's under 350 of fucking gallon. That's joy to me. This other shit that you're pulling out of the air of joy doesn't fucking exist. And the problem is the policies are dog shit. Same with Bush. I don't care that I'm a Republican and I'll throw Bush onto the fucking bus. It was awful. I ran a small business then. It fucking gutted us. It gutted us back then. 07 and 08 was fucking impossible. Impossible. The same way 20 through 24 has been impossible now. And I got to look at the fucking bank account every single day to worry that I can pay employees for a hard day of seltzer. The goddamn energy price is over and over again. It drives up the price of all of our goods. We don't want to charge this fucking price at all. But that's the demand. We don't have a choice. Nobody has a choice in this current economy. But we do have a choice when it comes to voting for the president of the United States. 16 through 20 was great financially. I don't give a fuck that you hate his mean tweets. I don't give a shit if you don't like the way he says things or the way he's mean to other people. What he's shown is we didn't go into wars. When there was a shot to take out somebody great he dropped one fucking bomb and got rid of them. And I truly believe that this bullshit with Ukraine and giving money to them, giving money to Israel would have never fucking happened in the first place if he was still in there. And that's why I'm so fucking pissed off about this current election. You were there for four years. Kamala, you were fucking there. You want to sign an executive order with Joe Biden? You could sit down with him tomorrow and say shut down the border. I guess the question is, who's more at fault here Biden for not caring about America? But does he not care? Does he not know? Well, either way, is that worse or is it worse that she doesn't have enough clout to walk down the hall and say, hey, Joe, the country's fucked up. Please do this. Like which ones were you're asking a woman. I'm sorry. Wait, you're asking a woman who can't convince Joe Biden to make very simple changes that would protect America from existential threats. She can't walk down the hall and ask for that and say, hey, it's going to also help us get elected. He was willing to step out of the fucking presidency, to stop running for president, to help America, to save America, right? But he's not willing to take her advice and do something she wants. This idea that you can fucking pretend you're not in some way culpable of what's happened for the last three and a half years, especially after you were absolutely named the borders are. That is the, it might be the weakest defense of any presidential candidate I've ever seen in my life, honestly. Like that's the weakest shit I've ever heard of. Because what you're effectively doing is blaming the guy that obviously has vascular dementia, right? You're blaming him. Like, oh, that was all the old man's fault. I had nothing to do with that. Like you can't convince an old man to save the fucking country from goddamn illegal immigrants, from Iran, from China, really? Really? Like that's, that's, you're telling me that you're going to convince Congress to pass bills, right? To support your fucking agenda. You're going to do that. You're going to convince world leaders not to attack each other or fuck with our economy, but you can't convince one old man to sign an executive order to shut the fucking border down. Sorry, I don't believe that. I just, I don't get it. And so, like, when I hear all of this shit and I go through this, like, tonight with a VP debate, do I think Vance won? Yes. He's a fucking lawyer. This guy, again, I'll say what I said during the last commercial break. Plucked out of nowhere 60 days ago. Seems like a decent enough fucking guy, but the hand he was dealt was a shitty four years. That has probably been the worst in our history since Carter, and Carter finally outlived him. So, you know, good on him, you know, for, for Jimmy on that one. That's the next one. Jimmy's birthday is a day. So happy birthday, Jimmy. A hundred. Now we're going to see where I think we should start taking bets on if Jimmy outlast. Joe. Oh, yeah. That's the next thing that I want to say. That's another body for Jimmy questionably. Bob, Bob, did you, did you play the video of him being wheelchair? Play this now for his, for his hundred. My buddy, my buddy, Jeremy Stamper, fucking posted it just for you. Like, a couple of orders. So, by the way, but we had a theory earlier, it might have been off Mike, actually, that the reason so many celebrities are dying is because to get to 100, Jimmy requires souls. You think he's been fucking highlandering people? Yeah. That's actually what's leading them with the one. That's what's leading them with three. I said this to Bob, so go ahead and play this. This is Jimmy now, and this is how we celebrated his 100th birthday. He looks great, and the reason his mouth is open is because he's swallowing those souls. So, he is literally just the fucking worm from SpongeBob in the wheelchair. There he is. Good. They put a hat on, which is nice. Let me tell you something, folks. If you ever see me in any way looking like this, just walk him and put a bullet right in my brain. No, half sex with him. Or half sex in the, yeah. I mean, it's one of the two. God damn it, dude. This looks like when, remember when they... Wait, if you pause it right there, you can see John Amos' soul flying into his mouth. Yeah. You can see Taggart, you can see... Wait, he just died. No, John Amos just died today. I know, that's what I'm saying. You can see the Kim Emma Tumbo, you can see Pete Rose, all of those souls are being sucked into Jimmy's mouth right now. Jimmy's stilled up right now and just did this. When you nub, she keeps sucking right there. Yeah, right there. Oh, man. Oh, God damn it, dude. That is kids around and all this other shit. That's the last memory you want. Hey, come break a chunk off a paw paw. Oh, my God. He's going to be dead soon. You'll take that chunk home with you. Take a finger home with you. Break off a finger here. What? And the absolute fuck is going on there. Bob, pull those pictures up by saying the Drake Rose gene. We're going to do some democracy right quick. Is it a real democracy? There's two fucking versions that Brandon sent me. And it's an American flag butt plug with a make America anal again. So that's one of them. Okay, there's one. Not bad. I'd like to see a different font there, Brandon. Something more fun. Yeah, the second one is below it. Scroll down. There you go. But there's no periods, Brandon. If you're still watching, if not, I'll text this to you. But there's no periods in MAGA. I think, though, he didn't want it to say ma and then a butt plug. I think just spell the whole thing out. Make America anal again. Make America over on the top and then anal again on the bottom of this design, probably. And then if you take a picture of yourself out in public with this shirt on, we'll give you a free case of hard ASL. Yeah, I'd love to see it. I'd love to see it. But in all sincerity, look, Walt was dealt a terrible hand for the last four years. He did what he could. There's nothing you can do. I mean, also, don't give him too much credit. He is a governor of a safe blue state. Very small number in population as well. I mean, it's not a big state. It's not California. It's not Texas. It's not, yeah, but it's not tiny, tiny. I think it's got double digital electoral votes. Maybe nine electoral votes. It's got a major city, but he's in a safe blue state. And also, he's clearly just not that bright. Yeah, but he's kind of a, I mean, he's, he's what you expect for a high school gem teacher, yeah, 100 percent. He's probably, look, to be honest, he could probably hit a bunch of free throws in a row. He probably, and honestly, I bet you, he's a cool teacher to have. Like genuinely, I bet he's, I bet he's like, oh, cool, Mr. Walls, whatever. Yeah, if you get caught fucking in the back room, he's like, ah, you kids. Yeah, let me watch. Let me watch. But like, he pulls out a Sony-handed cam from 2007. Let me watch it. You guys are kids. I don't know if he's a pedophile. I have no idea. I have no idea. But yeah, as far as the rest of this is concerned, what are we, 34 days away from the election now at this point? Yeah, 35 I think. Like, in all sincerity, I don't, I don't give a fuck that Trump is a fucking asshole. Every leader of a company is a goddamn asshole. Probably myself included. To be honest with you, that's the only way you could fucking go forward. I don't know anybody who's nice that is going on. I thought you were being pretty mean to me earlier. That's true. Probably was Bob, but guess what, dude, like sitting behind the scenes for two companies, dude, over and over and over again, fighting these people. And I'm hearing the same thing from everybody else who's laid on invoices and everything else, inflation, the gas and the thing. It was like, cool, man, but who are you voting for? And they're like, well, you know, some of them, half of them, because unfortunately, we still are in Hollywood. Whether we like it or not with podcasts, half of these agencies are like, the liberal fuck and they're like, well, you know, it's the economy and it's the way you think that right now. And it's like, cool, man, but who are you voting for? And then they're saying the same fucking party. It's like, dude, you're laid on payments. That means you can't collect. We can't collect. No one can collect because joy, that's it. Like, I need a better fucking answer than that. That's it, man. And like, I don't give a shit who it is. In my lifetime, there's been two presidents financially that have rocked and we haven't been in any fucking wars, Clinton and Trump. No problem admitting that a Democrat and a Republican for two entirely different reasons. You could, however, make the case and I have in several papers. I've written that the Clinton administration 100% set up the conditions for Osama bin Laden to fly planes into our buildings. Maybe, but I don't, but that part, I don't know. I know for a fact about that. But as a civilian, I have no idea. But the other issue is that the CIA also did it on purpose. And the CIA probably killed JFK, right? They definitely killed JFK, yes. So, I mean, how much can you really blame Clinton for that, you know? Right, so if you're looking at it from an asshole standpoint, no, dude, I'm telling you the two best in my lifetime was Bill Clinton and fucking Trump. So here's what we know, here's what we can glean from that then. The best presidents fuck chicks that aren't their wives. Yes, and that's going to happen. Do you have a fucking Clinton? Vince McMahon. Trump, Vince McMahon. I just watched that. He wasn't, dude. He wasn't president. He should be. But I would say, you create a billion dollar enterprise and shit on someone's head. Yeah, I don't know. There's no, there's no causation, but there's a 100% correlation between being a gross piece of shit with women and being a good president, 100% on that for ever, right? At least since JFK. JFK. And who was wait? I guess, no, no, go back to FDR. FDR. FDR. He was getting handies in the wheelchair. One person couldn't even walk. He was giving people the pinky. You know what I mean? Same with Hawking. Hawking left his wife of 37 years in a fucking wheelchair for the nurse and said, you know what, I have to leave. I guess the one outlier might have been LBJ. He wasn't a great president. And he used to throw jumbo on the table a lot. Yeah, but he didn't put it in anyone. He was just waving it around. That's fair, yeah. I mean, if you want to go really far back, TJ. Yeah, he was banging. Slaves. Between TJ and Ben Franklin, they fucked half of Europe. Yeah. But for real, like Ben Franklin was over there to slay an old ass in France. Like, oh my god, you could smell it. I can taste it now. It's in my mouth right now. I can taste it. It sort of just echoes through the ages. Boy. But in all sincerity, dude, as long as everybody's doing well financially, crime is down, immigration is down, all that other shit. Like, I don't care if it's Clinton or Trump. What I know is this. We had four years of Trump versus four years of this bullshit. Everything that Vance kept going back to tonight was like, dude, you had the last four years. I don't want to hear about what you're going to do on day one. You can do it right now. It's totally fucking true. And how you can keep voting for this shit is fucking insane to me. Look, if Trump sucked, I'd tell him to get the fuck out of there. Like, fuck. Push sucked. Get him out of there. Problem was, who ran after him on the Republican side? John McCain. Yeah. And who do you pick as VP? Sarah Palin? That's not a great idea. No, she's a boy. She was some else. I think that was the only election I sat out and just didn't vote, where I was just like, what the fuck are we doing here? Yeah, I don't think I voted that one. I don't either. And the other part too was like, I wanted to see what the hype was about. Like, in 2008, I was living in Los Angeles. I went to the Obama rally. Same thing I went to Trump in 2016. It was identical. Electric. 50,000 people. People were going nuts and everything else. It was an easy call. And then this old fucking man with, he picked off a governor, what was very similar to Walt's actually. Was it 90 days before? Who you talking about? Palin. Didn't he get Palin like 90 days before? Oh, yeah, yeah. The fucking thing. Well, I mean, it was, it was, um, it was after the convention, right? They didn't have a VP at the convention, I think. I don't think they did. Because it was after the first debate. He got crushed and he picked her. It was a weird Hail Mary. It was weird, yeah. To be fair, McCain got murdered in that election. Yeah, he wasn't going to win them. But he got murdered because of Bush. Like, yes. No, he can't have eight years of Bush. And then nobody was voting. No, but I know because I got relatives who were running for governor at that time in another state. But also Obama was wild. Obama had no record to defend because he had only been. Same with Trump. Yeah, exactly. He had only been in politics for like six years at that point. And he had voted against the Iraq war, which was a huge deal at the time. That was the only thing that mattered, really. And so like, it's not that, hey, dude, it's fucking Republicans. Awesome. All the other shit. It's just looking at what happened during these four years versus the last four years. And that's it. That's it for me as a fucking voter. And like, I don't know how to run companies under another four years of this shit. The regulations are awful. The IRS. Hiring 85,000 people has been fucking miserable. So I've been audited twice. My father just got audited. 71 years old talked about him the other day on the other show. 71 years old, he's getting audited for something in 2020. And it's this fucking administration. It sucks, dude. Like none of this should fucking exist right now. We have a chance to change it. Go back and then figure it the fuck out. And then see how really how good Trump is. The first four years were great. Let's see if he can repeat it again. So we'll see. Either way, this is the only fucking vice presidential debate we will get there. By the way, no more presidential debates at all. No, and the vice president will base historically, if not meant really anything. This one could. You think so? Yeah, because of Harris's perceived lack of expertise and statesmanship, right? I think people will have looked to walls. No, I don't think Vance matters that much. I think walls matters a lot. And maybe I do think this debate did one thing, which is walls are Vance rather has a bad reputation with people on the left, because of some of his interactions with the press over the last couple of months. And I think this probably smoothed some of that out. Or it would allow for it to have been smoothed out if they were open to that. Most people aren't open to it, frankly. I think a huge problem for. So he kind of touched on this a little bit with abortion, like, oh, they don't trust us on abortion or whatever, which they don't. But I think a huge problem with a lot of centrist and maybe, like, center left voters is that a lot of the Republicans lately, Trump included, have seemed fucking crazy. Like, you get, like, the Herschel Walkers and the Mark Robinson's. Like, people you don't want to talk, speak to. You know what I mean? Like, someone, if you heard them speaking, you would walk away. You would not want to interact with someone because they seem fucking weird. Yeah. Vance is kind of maturing in front of our eyes. Because he went, like, two years ago, he was very abrasive. And fuck you, this is my opinion. And now he's getting kicked out of Primanti Brothers and saying, don't stop eating Primanti Brothers. She was just nervous about having a big crowd in there and blah, blah, blah. Which wasn't true. And he stood up for them. Fine, but she doesn't own that place. I know. Primanti Brothers isn't like that. But it was a very nice movie. And one of his exact phrases in that speech was, don't kill a small business. Yeah. Don't kill a small business by boycotting it. Yeah. And, yes. Vance sounds like someone who's like, let's go back to pre-Trump times. He just sounds like someone who's your Republican friend. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, your normal Republican friend who's like, oh, he believes this. I believe this. Like, he's normal. And like we said, I believe Vance, if he was on the ticket right now, he's up 10 points. That's been a-- All I care about though is the results. And like, the results I got from 2016 to 2020, me personally and everybody else, we're great. But the problem is, I don't care. It's been a common refrain on Twitter tonight that the phrase, this might be surprising, but I like Vance more than Trump now. I've read that a dozen or so times. So that's not surprising to me, though. It's not. No. Because Vance is a lawyer. He's a trial lawyer. You saw it tonight. You saw it on stage tonight. He's used to speaking in front of crowds. Here's what Trump is used to. Calling people into a boardroom, and then either firing them or giving them races. And when I went to the fucking White House two and a half years ago, whatever, I said, because I asked the aides, a lot of them were there from the first term and everything else. And I said, what was the biggest difference? And why did Trump come off? It's so fucking abrasive and everything else. And they go, you know why he was so pissed off all the time? Is that everything is so far away that he couldn't call a board meeting, like he could in New York, for a normal fucking business on a daily basis. And every day was a fucking fight, and he couldn't mentally get over that. Yeah. I couldn't either. That was one of the fucking most fantastical parts of that series, the West Wing. I'm sure you've seen it, right? There are a couple of times. I actually never understand. I think the first five seasons, Martin Sheen's character's president, or running for president or whatever. And there's a couple of occasions during those first five seasons where he's like, they're trying to get a bill passed. It's going back and forth. He goes, get everybody in my office. Get them in the oval. And he's like, hey, we're going to get it passed. And like, okay, Mr. President, that fucking doesn't happen. Does not happen. Like fuck off. Maybe you're two miles away. Maybe Reagan and Tip O'Neal did that a couple of times, but that's not been the case since, let's say, New Gingrich. Yeah, I was going to say Speaker that. 96. And by the way, that's not a Republican or a Democrat thing. I think that was 94 when he became Speaker. I'm not blaming either party. That's the way they're currently set up. And it fucking sucks. Yeah, they're all conscious. But here's the other part too. It's like going and eating with them on different days and whatever. Eat with the RNC. And it's all Republicans. The next day you eat with a DNC. It's all Democrats. Like they never even eat together. They never join together. If you go to an outside restaurant that is not on Capitol Hill, you're segregated by who your friends are in a mask. Like at least when I was there. So you know who was a Democrat, who was a Republican by who was wearing a mask and who wasn't. And that's all bullshit too. Force all of these motherfuckers. Congress, Senate, everybody into a room. I think you should have to have a buddy. You should have to have a buddy. You have to be linked up with one person from the other party. And you guys have to eat lunch together every day. Yes, McCain and Biden were like bros in the Senate. Yeah. And then they tried to do it. And the problem with Biden was, he got fucking old. Like, and he got dementia and all that other shit. Everything we said in 2019, and he just wasn't capable to do it. But you have to. You have to go back to that. The problem is we're way past that and it's not going to fucking happen. And that's what sucks. Because if you're going to really try to pass by partisan shit, and we heard it tonight with a border bill, where it's just like, "Oh man, if Trump would have done this, and we would have a border bill and everything else." You can't jam. You crane in there. You can't jam Israel funding in there. You can't jam all this extra shit in there. And then call it the fucking border bill. Same way the Inflation Reduction Act. You can't say all that. And then it's about climate change. It had nothing to do with inflation. It was simply about climate change. That's it. Now on climate change, we'll go back to the top of this debate, because I think it was the second question that was asked, even though that's like fifth on people's list right now. Probably abortions number two on that one, as opposed to like immigration and fucking economy and all that other shit. With that, you can't go back to it and say, "All right, great. We're gonna do it at this point." And I was like, "Well, we can do this." Can't. You can't fucking do it. And it sucks. Like you can't get all these fucking people in room. You can't get them to have a decent conversation. You can't get them to agree on anything. And you can't pass a single bill without 19 other things being in it. And that's what else sucks. And like, that should be against law. I've said this on the show forever. Where it's just like, "Hey, dude, if we're voting on inflation, just be about inflation. If we're voting on Ukraine, just be about Ukraine or Israel, whatever the fuck it is." But unfortunately, it's where we are in our country. So the next election matters. And here we are. And I've had 90 of these tonight because of homegirl. She said, "God damn it. How many times should cut off and had to take a drink?" So whatever. Either way, we appreciate it. Are these T-shirts actually available by the way? - It will be. It'll be, hold on, make America anal again. Hang on a sec. Let me send this to Bob right quick. We'll throw this one up on screen really quick before we go. - Okay. - A lot of people in chat are saying end racism tonight. - We're not doing that. - No, we're not. - No, I'm a big fan of racism. I think it's good for the country. - I would prefer the free market to decide what a free market racism is. - Hey, the free market has decided, dude. If you're Asian or Indian, I want to use my doctors and everything else and like, yeah, dude, I have no problem. - Somebody sent me a fucking-- - Nexting out white people from a lot of jobs. - Somebody sent me a fucking video from Mr. Bean back in the 80s today. And it was like, yeah, all the immigrants. They're Indian and Pakistani and yeah, I love curry. But now that we got the recipe, do we really need them here? - No, it's all kind of done. - But Indian shifted, dude, they were doctors and everything else. - Oh yeah, I'm good with you, dude. - I also want to know your politics for your job, right? Like, if you're a surgeon, I need a Republican. If you're a car mechanic, I need you to be a Republican. - Yeah, yeah, what about what jobs you want to be Democrats, librarians, psychiatrists or something? - I don't know, then they're gonna try to get you to cut your dick off, though. - Yeah. - You gotta be careful, dude. Throw the shirt up there. - What do we got? - We think of this one. - Make America anal, why not? - I think that's the one. - We've had a ton of drinks tonight, who cares? - Yeah, sell it, sell it on the fucking site, dude. - All right, brand new, whatever we want. - We're good. - As long as it's not on Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, what are the other social media platforms we're fucked on? - Any of them, except for Twitter. - Wow. - Yeah, yeah, that's kind of it, right? - I think we're okay for now on TikTok. I've never used it personally, but I'm told-- - We're not. - We haven't been banned in a month. - Oh, we got a month, yeah. - We got demonetized in, like, 30 seconds. Actually, no, we did. We did, I think it maybe deleted on TikTok or something like that. - No, we've been easy to get deleted on TikTok. - Our account has been banned on TikTok, deleted on TikTok, whatever it is. - Oh, a million times. - Like six or seven times now, I think. - Yeah. - You say the word sex, you're out. - Yeah. - It's sex-it. - That shirt's live, Bob, go to drinkerbose.com, let's make sure-- - Make it in your channel. - Yeah, I just want to make sure that this is-- - Brand new anchor, this is on you, if it's not on the site. - No, go to your fire. - Go go back. - And then go to new. The easiest way to do this, Bob, is scroll right there and click new apparel. It's always the new stuff, there you go, look at that, Brandon. - Nailed it, Brandon, it coming. - You can get that, wear that to your grandma's funeral. Wear it to your grandmother's funeral and let everybody know that you support American buttholes. - If you don't remember the context of this, what it was was we were talking about how abortion had been falling off a cliff in terms of rates because teen pregnancy had been falling off a cliff because of rates because anal is pretty popular now. - Yeah, I mean, everybody's eaten. So the generation that started the whole ass eating trend has the lowest rate of teen pregnancy. You think that's a fucking mistake? That's called evolution. - Is it? - Yeah, we're making progress as a country. We're eating nature is healing, actually. - Yeah, we're all healing. - And it is October 1st, which means it's ass eating season today. - Sure, sure it is. - Man, this couldn't have happened in a better way for us. - No. - This all kind of like, this lined up. - And we got like three October surprises. - The universe. - Yeah, we got Iran bombing, we got Carter at a Hondo, and now we have this. - I would not, I don't personally classify Jimmy Carter turning 100 as a surprise, so. - I do, we definitely do. - It's a cinch. - Slam dunk. - Wheeling him through the fucking fields with this whole goddamn family like that is nuts to me. - That's one of the weirdest things I've seen. - Goddamn it. - You know what it reminded me of? - It's gonna haunt my dreams. - When John Paul died, and they fucking wheeled him through Rome. - Yeah. - That's what it looked, and that casket that has the glass over it. - So you can see him? - Yeah. - Oh my God, dude. - That's Jimmy right now. How many fucking bumblebees went in his mouth? - Do you think they're gonna have like a fucking peanut shaped casket for him? - I'm not sure. - How, I mean that. - We brought this up in Ross Passion Revolution earlier today. You know he flew in peanut one. - What? - I'm not kidding. - What the fuck? - He changed the name of the plane. Bring up peanut one. Show him a, show Dan the peanut one dude. - Is there, he got the logo changed. - Wait, did you find a peanut casket? - Yeah, I think so. - Oh man, put that up. - Put that up on screen. - Hold on. - Yeah. - Do you want? - I wanna see that M&M casket. - No. - No, we want it. - It's Jimmy. - It's Jimmy, dude. Jimmy, put the fucking peanut on there. - He doesn't need chocolate. - There he is. Look at that. We'll get that, dude. - That is, this is definitely in Africa. - Sure is. - Sure is. Look at that. - Do you roast it? - It kind of looks like they welded somebody inside. - Yeah. - I think this might be a cereal too. - There's a body in there, for sure, right now. Oh boy, but Jimmy, yeah. They're wheeling them through the field, mouth wide open. ♪ With mouth wide open ♪ It's not great. - Anyway, show me peanut one. - Peanut one. Give him peanut one. - I mean, it's just Air Force One, but he just called it. - But no, he's got a whole thing, dude. It's peanut one. Look at that. Show the picture. - Oh yeah, it's his own plane. - Look at that. - So what would Trump put on the side of Air Force one if he was gonna show him? - No, he did Trump, so it just says Trump on it. We've seen that plane. - That's his own plane, though. - Oh, it's not Air Force One. - Okay. - No, that's not Air Force One. That's his own plane. - So peanut one, they let him do this? - I think Trump should just draw a dick on the side of Air Force One. - Great, if he did. - It's like a dick, like a dolphin, and it's jumping over something. It's jumping over. - Yeah, a quintet of dolphins jumping over a rainbow. - Well, they're dick dolphins. - Dick dolphins. I wanna see four dicks jumping over a rainbow. - I think Brandon, go ahead and make that two, four dicks jumping over a rainbow. - Yeah. - I think Trump would keep it classy, call it something like Big Mac. - No, I have to do his McDonald's. - He would fucking just paint it gold. - He did do that Big Mac commercial back in the day. - He did Pizza Hut, too. By the way. - The stuff crust, yeah. - Huge fan of both, dude, huge. - Stuff crust pizza. Actually, that'll be our next live show. Let's get some Pizza Hut stuff crusts in here. - Well, we'll make some. - We've got stuff crust pizza at home, Bob. - No, there's a Pizza Hut down the street, dude. All support local business, yeah. - Pizza Hut's not a local business. - Right at the Y. - We should do an entire-- - We'll throw a match to Trump and just get like 12 different fast foods. - Just like he did when Clemson won the fucking Naddy, dude. He had McDonald's, KFC, Pizza Hut, what else? - And look at what happened to Clemson afterwards. - They went downhill pretty well. - I haven't won ever since. - I believe that was Trevor Lawrence's team, it might have been us. - Yeah, it wasn't DeShawn Watson, otherwise it would have been Baby Oil. - Yeah, dude, so that's on him. That's on him. - So if you're a Clemson fan out there, maybe vote for commas, I guess, I don't know. - I guess, if you want to, that's fine. That's South Carolina, you know, that's in South Carolina, and you do whatever you want down there. - It's not gonna make a difference there. - We appreciate you tuning in, kids. Yes, it's gonna get heated for the next 34 days. For sure, fuck, dude. It's been a struggle for the last four fucking years, dude. And I don't wanna hear about it anymore. I wanna hear about joy or anything else. Results, all I give a fuck about, I don't care how mean Trump was, I don't give a shit at all. Just results, and we'll find out in 34 days, and I can't wait till it's over. However, if you're coming out to the election show, we are live. Downtown WTF, November 5th. RDF Seltzer be on tap, we got a ton of celebrity guests coming to town. Trump's lawyer is actually gonna be on the show. - Yeah, and then, well, there's a decent chance, I gotta confirm this, just for legal reasons, that Kangaroo will be in the audience as well. - So I've heard that, is that Tukui, is it Zeus? - It's Zeus, yeah. And he said, hey, it's kinda biting people now, but I'm gonna bring him anyways. That's what he said. - Well, we rented the place out for that. So why can't we have a live Kangaroo walking through the whole-- - And also, we're gonna sell tickets to it, but not to make money, just because the last time we did this in 2020, people started showing up late. We tried to do Advent Bright, just to trick, 'cause they have a, like the fire marshal will come shut 'em down. It's a fucking private business, our friend's owner, we're not gonna fuck 'em over. - So we're gonna have to sell some small-- - It'll be like five bucks. - Like a small car. - Like a small car. - And we'll give it to charities, so it's just to track who's actually got tickets to come in. - Correct, 'cause last time-- - It was a shit show last time. - Well, there was so many fucking people who were ready to party, 'cause it was in the height of COVID. We had Alex Jones on that night, and it was a ton of people, yeah, we got wrecked. There's a ton of people in downtown Austin who just saw a huge party going on, and they were like, yo, I won in. And it was like, all right, cool. So we will release those just for-- - So if it's a ticketed event, the only drinker bros will be there. - Yeah, that's it. - So you guys can get it. - And people, again, we'll put it like five bucks or something stupid, wherever their minimum is, so that way we know what it is, and then everybody can come in and boos. Live kangaroo, a ton of celebrities, and all that other shit. I just got my suit, by the way, yesterday. - A suit? - Yes. - Remember the suit I wore in 2020? - No. - Yeah. - The American flag one, Tom Tabano? - What is it like from Sheen or something? - Yeah, China Sea. - China Sea. - I got it from China Sea. So the new one just arrived. It's American, it's bald eagles all the way down the side, and then stars down the thing, and then obviously the Trump campaign sent me the shoes. - Bob, what are you gonna wear, just a red suit with a big hammer and sickle in the front of it? - I'm not a communist, I'm a homosexual, and-- - Oh, rainbows. - So rainbows, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Okay. - And a butt flap on the suit, too, obviously, just for-- - Yeah, for obvious reasons, yeah. - Way to people, so we're now 30 days away from Halloween. What do you think are gonna be the big Halloween costumes this year? 'Cause I'm thinking deady, just like a fucking shopping cart full of baby oil. - Sure, right. - So I can tell you what my kid wants, and it's Joker, the new movie's coming out. - Oh, God. - Well, the new movie's coming out in three days. - He can't watch that. - It's not that it can't watch it, so the commercials are on so much now for kids, and on YouTube and everything else. - For that? - Oh. - That's a hard R range. - No shit, and this will go back to my Facebook complaints, and my fucking YouTube complaint, and all those fucking assholes. - This is the only time-- - You're willing to show that. - Yeah, this is the only time-- - But you can't show our show. - The only time YouTube ever actually got regulated by the government was for advertising the kid. - Yes. - That's the only time they ever got hit. - And so I asked him, I go, 'cause he's 10, and I go, "Why do you want to be the Joker?" And he goes, "Well, dad, the movie's coming out." And I go, "You haven't seen the movie. "You didn't see the first one? "You didn't see any of them." So how do you know? We put on, I think it was either Dude Perfect or Mr. Beast or whatever it is, and there's a commercial for it, now, the commercial is clean, so there's no swearing in it, and they know what they're doing for kids, right? - This thing is gonna be fucking savage. - No shit! And so you can't stop it. - It isn't the whole, if you haven't seen the first one, it's been years fuck you, no spoiler alerts. The first 90% of it is not violent, and then it's the last, what, 15 minutes? - Oh, it's ruthless. - This whole fucking movie is getting better. - Yeah, yeah. And so that's the issue that a lot of us parents are having with Facebook and YouTube and Google and Instagram and all that other shit is like, "Dude, you can keep your eye on kids for so long, "even on YouTube kids." So there's a separate app for YouTube kids, and this even fucking gets me even more angrier. There's these adult men who are in their 60s who do toy reviews inside the store, and they go into the Halloween spirit stores. - What's it called? - Is it spirits? - Not spirit. - Yeah, Spirit Halloween? - Is that what it is? - Yeah, okay. - It's a little try on the costumes, but it's like-- - These are grown men. - Grown, it's 60, 55 year old men. - Those are pedophiles. - That's what I say. But those videos are allowed on YouTube kids, so it's just like, God damn, man, is there anything out there? You want to censor our shit? Like, my kids have never seen one fucking word of drinking bros ever, dude, ever. 'Cause I'm a good parent. Like, this other shit, they're like, "Eh, we're good with it as long as you know, "we're going and showing shit." - I, when did you start watching final movies? - Me, personally? - Yeah, but-- - So-- - When Ross grew up in the 1960s, the final movies were spaghetti westerns. You know what I mean? - Yeah, yeah. - Like, I guess Taxi Driver came out when you were a kid. - Boy, that's crazy, dude. I, Shawshank Redemption was when I was born, so I don't remember what year that was. - That was '93, and you were not born that year. - Yeah, and all sincerity, like, my parents, I couldn't watch, like, PG-13 until I was 13. - I mean, I watched-- - And so I was 17. - Predator and Rambo and shit like that. - So I was just saying, as a 10-year-old, my parents were really strict on, like, titties and stuff like that, sex scenes, but like, aliens? - But what about-- - Or the rock or something like that? - What about psychological violence? Because I think Rambo mowing down a bunch of fucking Afghan dudes in Rambo 3 is quite a bit different than whatever the fuck is gonna happen to Joe, right? - So, hey, so Bob, to your point, ET was fine, right? 'Cause it was a friendly fucking finger. - A different type? - The other was fucking brutal, though. - Right, so I think we're looking for-- - I was not allowed to watch-- - I was allowed to watch-- - I was allowed to watch that stuff. - I was not allowed to watch that stuff. - I was not allowed to. - 10-year-old, it's just 10, right? - Yeah. - That was about, and actually, and because my parents were just kind of like lazy, like, fuck it, let's just fold the other one into the eight-year-old, my then eight-year-old younger brother, we would be like watching aliens or Predator or the rock came out in '96, or we would also watch like more benign violent movies like Independence Day or something like that. But-- - When did the South Park movie come out? - That one I was not allowed to watch because-- - They was '99. - Yeah, so I watched that when I was eight. - I watched that when I was eight. - I think it was '99. - Yeah, it was. - So profanity and nudity or sex was in no, but pretty graphic violence was fine. - Which is weird for Catholics, because they already know you're having sex at eight years old. - Yeah, but with a priest, obviously. - So yeah, for me-- - No, no, it's not more of a hush hush. - That's a sex-- - They don't want you fucking having heterosexual sex. - Yeah, having sex. - That's fucking weird. - It was on the age and that's when I could watch it. And again, if it was Alien, if it was ET, sure. Alien, no. So I didn't even see the fucking Alien movies. I think it's always in college, maybe. - Really? - Yeah. - I didn't see Pulp Fiction until I was in my fucking 20. I just, 'cause it had missed me. So it was just too violent and all that other shit. And like, did it change me? Who knows? I got a zero idea. But all I know is like, I don't want my kids to be like, "Oh yeah, fuck." - Well, you know what's funny? We grew up watching what would be considered violent movies, I suppose I did at least. And we ran around playing war. That was a thing. I don't know if you guys know. - Oh yeah, yes, they're for sure. - Cowboys and Indians in war. Now kids, if you say the word gun in a school, you get kicked out of school or they call it cops on it. - Correct, yep. - But they watch fucked up crazy shit all the time. Like really fucked up crazy shit. - Or the video games. - Yeah, truthfully, the video games are probably more violent than the movies where you're like, "God damn it." - I guess maybe the illustration part. But I was playing like command and cocker and shit like that where you're wiping out whole armies and murdering people and shit. I mean, you didn't see the murder happen, but I was thinking about murdering. - Well, you were, but the difference is now they're showing it in front of your face. So you're, I mean, you're murdering people and then you feel great, right? - I don't know. I don't believe in blaming video games for fucking violence. - I don't either. - I was violent a long time before I started playing video games. But what I'm saying is if you know that it's out there, you have the choice as a parent to do it one way or the other 'cause you know what you're getting into and it's on the box. So the video game's credit 'cause I'm with you. I don't believe in playing the video games. It literally says on the box, I think NC 17 for some of the video games or PG-13 or whatever. So like, you know what you're getting into? It's not hidden anymore. It's not like cigarettes whether, you know, back in the day, it's a friendly camel. - Smoke up, Johnny, you're gonna be fine. They don't do that anymore. Everything is pretty fucking aggressive. - I think they should because America was a proper country when people smoked. - I agree, dude. I agree, you know. But here we are, here we are. Appreciate you tuning in, kids. Go to iTunes, write the show five star and leave a quick review. Also head on over to Spotify. It's just a five star and you can walk away at that point. For Anthony, Anthony Holloway, I'm Ross Patterson. This is the Drinking Bros podcast. Good night everyone. (rock music) (rock music) (rock music) (rock music) [MUSIC PLAYING]
