but she's had the flu for fourteen days should she get a flu shot well no if she got the flu for fourteen days she's as protected as anybody can be because the best vaccination is to get infected yourself it would be good for us to have a black woman as president for the first time in history yeah but my vote is kind of still on Trump all I ask is if we have to give these bastards our lives we give them hell before we do the tragedy of our day is the climate of fear I don't know what I meant I do not have sexual relations with it ♪ I am free of chance ♪ ♪ That search meet when we put that ♪ ♪ These work confesses of weapons of mass destruction ♪ ♪ I love the facts, we're guried out by it ♪ ♪ You can't handle the truth ♪ ♪ I remember that we've got two bullets ♪ ♪ Two, we are still here ♪ ♪ We have to say yes to two ♪ ♪ 'Cause we're just gonna walk into the water ♪ ♪ My eye is tied to my face and I'm ready for all ♪ ♪ Two, we're just gonna walk into the water ♪ ♪ And you know I can put together the water ♪ ♪ And then turn the friction through the sky ♪ ♪ Right before you know, come on ♪ ♪ It's a big flow ♪ ♪ And you ain't in it ♪ ♪ No ♪ ♪ All righty, ladies and gentlemen welcome ♪ ♪ Back to the show it is a beautiful Wednesday afternoon ♪ ♪ It has been a bit because we have been gone ♪ ♪ And out and about seeing the beauty and the sights ♪ ♪ And the hive of scum and villainy, Washington DC ♪ ♪ You're not gonna touch it a bit ♪ ♪ But this is the system is down ♪ ♪ Where we talk about politics, we talk about the nerd stuff ♪ ♪ And we talk about the evil that runs it all ♪ ♪ Actually, behind the scenes ♪ ♪ I'm here joined as always by the late great Dave Casey ♪ ♪ Dave, how are you doing? ♪ ♪ I'm doing great man, how are you? ♪ ♪ I'm feeling great, it's good to see you again ♪ ♪ Where I'm used to you on my computer screen ♪ ♪ Instead of on an air mattress in my living room ♪ ♪ And my dog terrorizing you, so ♪ - I mean, frankly, I prefer it. You can't see what else is all going on down here when it's behind a very pre-camera screen, but-- - Exactly. Dave, I was out in Washington, DC this weekend. What were you up to? - Bro, we were carpooling for that number. - Right, you were there. You were the one driving in the hellscape. Yes, trying not to blow your brains out. - Exactly, oh man. - Though, I should preface that by saying, I do have ease, like a hair trigger, anxiety. So it is just the worst place ever mapped out by its founding fathers. Those guys should actually get a lot of grief, the founding fathers-- - Absolutely. - For the way that they laid that place out. - horrendous. - Agreed, you know who shouldn't get grief, Dave? People in the downers club. People like John Windshower, Bob Seifert's drugs for robots out in Jacob's Pangea, Carolina, Trash Man, Abrogate, Dee's, Maxwell, Zengertet, too. Just, JC, Justin Savoy. Something, Perinoid, Osmotaz, Buckshank, Break the Bell, Keith Compson, Level Zero. 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Just give them a taste of what your first question was for Ian Carroll. No, actually, that was going to be my first question for you, was that interview I did with Ian Carroll? Any good, so I'm glad to hear that, man. Yeah, he's my dude. I told him he was my MVP of the year. That guy has just been absolutely crushing it and taking notes as a content creator of what should be done. But yeah, my first question to him, straight out the gate, is how much of our political system is based on sexual blackmail. And he was just like, all right, yeah, let's-- [LAUGHTER] Just straight out the gate. Yeah, yeah, yeah, good morning. How many people have raped children in our political society? Yes, a few. So you'll have to sign up. You send Dan $5 right now to find out. That's right, if you want the answer to his question, go find out at the Downers Club. And there's another interview or two that will be trickling out today, probably. There's probably at least one or two that will be coming out today and tomorrow. Four Downers Club members, and then we've got a whole, I don't know, pile of more that's going to be coming out whenever I get around and time to putting them all together as interviews. So go check that out and see what we had going on DC. Now, speaking of DC, which we will probably do some sort of extended recap of the weekend more so. Maybe we'll have Angela on in the coming week or so and have a more thorough breakdown with some of the behind-the-scenes stuff, perhaps. But for now, we've got to talk about this stupid debate that happened last night because, you know, when debates happen, that's our crack. So we've got to talk about them. Or at least mine, Dave, is it as alluring for you? I mean, you didn't take the night last night out to watch it. You listened to it this morning, right? Yes. So you're not the type of crazy person who's like, hey, honey, I heard there's debate. And she's like, oh, really? What time? And then going back and forth about trying to figure out times and putting it on the calendar and making dinner plans and making it-- you don't go to that extreme, like a dipshit. No, man. When I tell my girl that there's a debate on that night, and she makes plans to read her book or do something-- She makes plans to leave. Right? Yeah. She debates whether it's really worthwhile spending. So far, so good. Did not watch that one. The only reason I probably-- like, I would have just caught the clips. But you told me we were going to talk about this, and I'm dedicated to you in this show. So I got the whole thing in today. I appreciate that because I watched it, and I was talking about it and commenting on it last night. And I've got-- I don't know. I've got thoughts on it just in general. Because I don't know if I'm just bad at reading these things, but I watched it. And in the moment, I was finding it hard to focus on. I was finding it hard to listen to. I didn't find anything to be all that spicy or exciting. They did a lot of complimenting each other and a lot of good jobs out of boys to each other. But there were definitely some good moments. Just out the gate, Dave, as somebody who listened to the whole thing, who do you think won the debate? So yeah, I'll give you just a short answer. I think JD Vance won the debate. OK, yes, that is the short answer. And I haven't heard too many people on any side of the aisle disagreeing with that. I have heard a lot of Republicans saying that JD Vance-- Tim Poole was saying that it was the best debate performance he has ever heard in his life. I'm pretty sure is what he said. And I don't know. That seems like a bit of a stretch to me. He did all right. I saw-- I won't name him, but I saw a pragmatic libertarian party member say, all right, if this was the presidential ticket, I would vote for it. Now, I just busted the fuck up plan, dude. I couldn't. I was like, wow, that is like-- What was the presidential ticket? JD Vance? If it was JD Vance with Tim Walz, that was something that the moderate middle of the libertarian party could really get out. That's a cope, yeah. So admittedly, better than the current situation, so-- Sure. Yes, yeah. Now, would you take-- which ticket would you take Wal-- or, no, Vance Walz over Vance Turmont? That's a really tough-- I guess it gets worse than Turmont. And that's a democratic Chinese spy who's elevated to the highest level of government. That's when it gets a little worse. All right, whatever. We've got a couple things. I just had two or three things I don't want to pull up before we get too deep into the debate, because Zachary Levi came out, used the actor who played Shazam in the movie, aptly titled Shazam, and the other one. And he came out and had a surprising endorsement as a Hollywood big wig. Here's what he had to say. And my parents were Kennedy Democrats that then turned into Reagan Republicans. And they taught me to-- [MUSIC PLAYING] Hey, dear boy, beautiful day to be inside right now. Hey, do me a favor really quick, a little unorthodox, but turn to the person next to you and say, hey, I'm really glad that you're alive, and I'm really glad that you're here right now. Just do that real quick. Dave, I'm really glad that you're alive, and I'm really glad that you're here right now. I'm saying. That's going to blow up, and that's called unity, right? We're here for unity, right? We're here to make sure that we value every single person, every single person. Whether you're a Democrat, whether you're a Republican, whether you're a libertarian, an independent-- Oh, he noticed us. He said the name. Every single one of us is deserving of being seen and heard and loved and valued. Amen. Amen, amen. Listen, I'm not going to take too much time, but I did want to just give you a little context why Shazam is standing here talking to you about these various things. I grew up in my family, a Christian conservative. That was pretty much kind of the lane that we were in. My parents were Kennedy Democrats that then turned into Reagan Republicans, and they taught me to have a healthy level of distrust for the government and a healthy level of distrust for industry that runs amok. And for a long time, I was like, man, I really want to find a politician that represents all of the things that I want, and I want to see in a presidential candidate. And this year, I found Bobby Kennedy, and I thought, man, this guy-- [CHEERING] --this guy's it. He's the real deal. He's the real deal. And in a perfect world, and whatever that would look like, perhaps I would have voted for Bobby. But we don't live in a perfect world. In fact, we live in a very broken one. We live in a country that has been hijacked by a lot of people who want to take this place way off the cliff, and we're here to stop that, right? We're here to make sure that we are going to take back this country. We are going to make it great again. We are going to make it healthy again. It'd be funny if at the end of this, he was like, and that is why I'm endorsing Kamala Harris, because I'm a white dude. And so I stand with Bobby, and I stand with Tulsi, and I stand with everyone else who is standing with President Trump. Because I do believe that of the two choices that we have, and we only have two. Sorry, Chase. President Trump is the man that can get us there. And he's going to get us there, because he's going to have the backing and the support and the wisdom and the knowledge and the fight that exists in Robert Kennedy, Jr. and former-- I like how Shazam knows that the libertarians exist, but we still definitely only have two choices. And he knows it. Yeah, of course, he's getting backlash for this. He's getting backlash for speaking his mind in a way that disagrees with his industry at large. Dave, do you got any thoughts on this? I don't know. This endorsement here. It felt like-- yeah, I got a couple of thoughts. It felt like, one, he's really good at this. And almost that he's probably-- I would not be surprised if in the next 10 years, talk, he runs for office. It looks like he sounds like he's good at this, and it might run for office. But it's also nicely well-calculated. I think he was employed by Disney, Marvel, which is ABC, by the way, who covered for Epstein and who sabotaged a presidential debate or two. So he's probably seen some shit, aware of some shit, and he's also been through them and fired by them. And then he just lost his job with Universal as Shazam. So he's probably in that stage of his career, where-- you're not quite Kirk Cameron or Dean Kane or Kevin Sorbo, but he's got-- No, because he's been employed in the past 10 years. Right, but you might have to start looking at some changes. Like, where you're going to be in 10 years? Or like, I bet you he's hedging his bets that maybe Trump and conservatism is going to have a strong couple years coming ahead. And I'm not saying he doesn't believe any of that stuff either. I'm just saying that he wasn't saying any of this stuff five years ago, because he had other people to serve at that point. So no, but it's good to hear that he's out there doing his thing. Yeah, I mean, whether you agree with him or disagree with him, you got to praise a guy who's willing to put his reputation on the line to speak his mind. And that's what he did. And I watched an interview. I think it was on Dave Rubin at one of the rallies. And yeah, he was just talked about how risky it is to speak your mind in his industry and how many of his friends he has seen go down for it. But yeah, anyway. You remember when we were at that event the other day, and Dave Rubin was in the room, and I was like, let's go talk to him. And you were like, no, bro, that guy purchased a baby. Let's get the fuck out. I did not say that. It's true, but I didn't say it. I would never say that. Something I can't believe it was. Probably Dylan. I would absolutely interview what's his face. I don't remember the game. Any baby purchase. We purchased you any any purchaser base. That's right. Now, as as dangerous and scary as Shazam endorsing Trump is, here's what the other side is currently working with this week. They've got this. [MUSIC PLAYING] It's a-- how tall-- 43 foot naked statue of Donald Trump erected in the Las Vegas desert. [MUSIC PLAYING] So. [MUSIC PLAYING] I mean, are you-- who is this hurting, exactly? I imagine this is in your neighborhood, person who decided to erect this, and it's making your neighborhood look like shit. So I don't think it's doing to Donald Trump, but you think it's doing. But can you imagine if there was a 43 foot naked black Kamala Harris in the middle of the, I don't know, the Idaho fields or something? And like what the media would do with that shit? It would be the most evil, racist, atrocity known to man. But, you know, giant Donald Trump with a micro penis in the middle of the desert, it's art, bro. It's art. And I'm, for one, moved by this display of affection for our next president of the United States. Listen, you just-- you nailed it, bro. There is a lot more conservative landowners in this country than there are liberal ones. So if there's not one person out there who would construct a 100 foot naked Kamala Harris with some fucking bagel swang and titties, just do that. Just do that. Yeah. You know, they would probably be arrested. They would probably be arrested for hate crimes. I might be a sexual harassment slash rape-- Sure, rape crime. Wape, yeah. Yeah, don't do that, I guess. Don't wipe. Unless you're feeling, unless you're feeling proud of me. It's sure, I support it. Go ahead and do it if you want, but just know that it might be a hate crime in today's day and age. I don't know. I can't confirm or deny. But let's get into some of this debate stuff. And I mostly just have probably a lot of the same clips that you've got, Dave. And I don't-- like, I kept zoning out during this thing. I'm bad at listening to them all that closely, especially after a very long day. But yeah, I wasn't all that wowed by anything. There were some definitely good moments. In the recap, going back and rewatching some of the clips, there's definitely some better stuff. I didn't give JD Vance enough credit in my Twitter tirade last night that was just calling them all boring. But they did a lot of back patting. And there's been some people-- I want to know your thoughts on this day. There's been some people who have said that they weren't hard enough on each other. And there have been some people who have praised them for being pragmatic and being human with each other. And if, like, when Tim Wal said that his child got witnessed a shooting or something for JD Vance, he'd be like, oh, I'm so sorry to hear that type of thing. They kept going back and forth with their half-assed compliments of each other, to some degree. But do you think that they were being civil with each other? Do you think it's a good thing? Should they have taken more jabs at each other? Do you think that this will garner them more or less favor with the viewing audience that just wants to see heads-on spikes at this point? I think probably both of their people told them that that's their job, is to go out there and reassure their constituency or the independent voter that they are the adults in the room, not the-- you know what I mean? Because I'm sure that they know that everybody's kind of sick of the shit show. Except us. We enjoy that. But most people want to see their restoration of dignity to the office, politeness, and cordial, month to quorum, and stuff. So I'm not surprised that-- yeah, definitely that was one of my notes is that, well, I'm agreeing with them on that. I'm agreeing with them. Yeah, very polite. So yeah, I'm bored. But I thought that, yeah, it reminded me of just like a classic presidential debate. But I'll say this. I bet you in-- there's a lot of similarities between those two guys. But I bet you when JD Vance is listening to Trump sometimes, just on the side of the stage, and he's got to be quiet. And in his own head, he's probably going, this dumb bastard. And I bet you when Tim Walz has to just sit on the side and listen to Kamala Harris, he's going, this stupid bitch. Like, both of them are smarter than both of those other people, or at least able to do this part of the job better. You know what I mean? I don't know. I think it's debatable between Tim Walz and Kamala Harris. Maybe not. I do think that he probably knows more than Kamala Harris knows. But I haven't seen a whole lot of evidence of it. Because-- Oh, I thought he was much better at debating than-- He was definitely better at debating, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And just whenever they ask him a question, even the Chinese spy one, we'll do one over there. He was pretty good at weaseling out of that. Yeah, well, let's see, that was, I think-- no, that's not the first thing I have pulled up here. Let's go ahead and find-- OK, the first thing I have here is where Tim Walz made one of the strangest claims that I've heard in a presidential debate. And that's including all of Joe Biden's debates. I've become friends with school shooters. I've seen it. Look, the NRA, I was an NRA guy for a long time. They used to become friends with school shooters. I've seen it. Look, the NRA, I was an NRA guy for a long time. They used to become friends with school shooters. Yeah, which ones, bro? Which ones are we talking about? There's been a lot of people trying to explain this away. And I can't figure out what he was going for with this. I've been friends with school shooters. I worked with the NRA and blah, blah, blah. What do you think, Dave? Slip of the tongue. Can he give devil's advocate? What could he have been trying to say? I've been friends with the victims of or the families, the parents of school shooters. That's a lot of words to forget in such an important sentence that you're trying to string together to say that I have been friends with school shooters. There's also a clip going around of Tim Walz. After the debate, he is like chicken out at a pizza joint or something, and somebody's filming him. They're like, Tim Walz, what did you mean by being friends with school shooters? And he just refuses to answer. So I'm not-- I don't know. Maybe he was friends with-- I feel like I'm friends with the such and such. They use that tactic so often that I feel like he almost just slipped into one of his go-to tools in his bag of, no, I understand black people, because I've been-- you see, I've been friends with. I've been friends with the middle class. I've been friends with the people struggling in Ukraine. I've been friends with the poorest among us. And I've been friends, even with school shooters. I feel like it was just a kind of a dumb slip of the tongue, because he's not that good at politicianing. I heard rumor. I don't know if it's true or not, that Tim Walz was having a panic attack backstage before the debate. Don't know if it's true. I bet we'll probably hear more rumors like that coming down. But yeah, if you can't handle saying that-- I don't know. I just, personally, if I have to vote between the guy who's getting shot at and the guy who's admittedly friends with school shooters, it just doesn't seem like that heart of a choice. What do you think, Dave? Well, whether he's friends with school shooters or not, you should not vote for Tim Walz, that's for sure. I tend to think it's a slip of the tongue. In fact, he had a couple of them where he tries-- he's a pretty rapid-fire guy. And I saw a close-up of his eyeballs. He means what he says. He wears his harden to sleep. He's got some middle-class family. He also has those sunken eyeballs, like Biden does from that fucking cocaine meth up at a raw cocktail. Yeah, whatever they're sipping on back there. So yeah, avoid that. Whether he knows school shooters or not, avoid Tim Walz. Agreed. The Post Millennial reports breaking. Tim Walz says, "I've become friends with school shooters in weird debate moment." Let's see what we've got here. Minnesota Governor Tim Walz said on the debate stage that he has become friends with school shooters when the topic of gun violence came up. The weird moment in the debate took many by surprise when Walz was asked about why he now supports an assault weapons ban when he was previously opposed to one. He responded, "I sat in the office with the Sandy Hook parents. I've become friends with school shooters." So I was probably going for I've become friends with some of the victims or whatever, but that's quite a pretty bad gaff. Not only am I friends with the parents of the victims, I'm friends with the shooters themselves. So I am an authority to speak on this. I also know the NRA, and I own a gun or something, but yeah. I have friends with the Sandy Hook families and also friends with school shooters, and there's good people on both sides. Yep. In response, Donald Trump posted memes such as Trump fans 2024, not friends with school shooters. I mean, yeah. How could you not? Blow it. Yeah, blow it. Yeah. Sorry, Tim. All right. This round goes to JD Vance, I would say, without having to say a word. Now, next, let's see, what else we got. The school shooters are there. Oh, this next one is one that you were referring to, Dave, where Tim Walls is asked a very straightforward question about a claim that he made, an event that he took part in. He's called out for having not been there. And his excuse is, well, you see, I lied. But he says it in a lot more words than that. Let's watch. We want to ask you about your leadership qualities, Governor Walls. You said you were in Hong Kong during the deadly Tiananmen Square protests in the spring of 1989. But Minnesota public radio and other media outlets are reporting that you actually didn't travel to Asia. But is talking in the background? I didn't notice that when I pulled this clip. But it sounds like somebody's talking over this. Until August of that year. Can you explain that discrepancy? Yeah, well, into the folks out there, I didn't get at the top of this. Look, I grew up in small rural Nebraska, town of 400. There it is again. You rode your bike with your bike. He's told the street lights go on, and I'm proud of that service. So you said that you were at the Tiananmen Square riots, and you weren't. Can you explain? Well, I grew up in a small town. Let's start there. Start from square one. I was born at a very young age. OK. Just so you know, I rode my bike where the lights were on. And so look what the-- Yes, you can all relate to me and my charm, because I rode bikes. Yeah, it's-- when you're asked a question that has nothing to do with where or when or how you grew up, and your first thing out of your mouth as well, I grew up blank. You know that the next two minutes are just going to be full of bluster, and no questions can be answered. Let's listen to exactly that happen. I joined the National Guard at 17, worked on family farms. And then I used a GI Bill to become a teacher, passionate about it, a young teacher. My first year out, I got the opportunity in the summer of '89 to travel to China. 35 years ago, be able to do that. I came back home and then started a program to take young people there. We would take basketball teams. We would take baseball teams. We would take dancers. And we would go back and forth to China. The issue for that was was to try and learn. Now look, my community knows-- That sounds like what a spy would do. What was that? What? That sounds like what a spy would do. It sounds similar to what that Ryan-- what was the name? Ryan Routh guy, who's going back and forth between Russia and taking people back and forth, yeah. No, it was purely for a learning experience for the kids. It was just field trips to China. Nothing, nothing to see there. But during the revolution, we wanted to dance. All right, just hanging out. Look, I will be the first to tell you. I have poured my heart into my community. I've tried to do the best I can, but I've not been perfect. And I'm a knucklehead at times, but it's always been about that. Those same people-- I'm just a big old dumb-dumb. I say what I mean, and I mean what I say, but sometimes I say things that don't mean because I'm stupid. Once again, that is all that we've got to go on here. I am stupid. Vote for me. OK. Also, I'm a liar in addition to being stupid. Well, elected me to Congress for 12 years. And in Congress, I was one of the most bipartisan people working on things like farm bills that we got done, working on veterans' benefits. And then the people of Minnesota were able to elect me to governor twice. So look, my commitment has been from the beginning to make sure that I'm there for the people, to make sure that I get this right. CJD Vance, crack in a-- I mean, his person has lips a little bit. He's got to be waiting for the moment to say yes, but were you in Tiananmen Square during the riots and the thing that they just asked you about? Thankfully, this is a moment where the moderators actually did their job because JD Vance didn't have to say that. I will say more than anything. Many times I will talk a lot. I will get caught up in the rhetoric. But being there, the impact it made, the difference it made in my life, I learned a lot about China. I hear the critiques of this. I would make the case that Donald Trump should come on one of those trips with us. I guarantee you, he wouldn't be praising Xi Jinping about COVID. And I guarantee you, he wouldn't-- Did Donald Trump praise Xi Jinping about COVID? Or did he call it the China virus for four years and get called a racist? No, I think he definitely praised the way that he locked that shit down. Called him King. Like, he handled his work-- were on drugs and stuff. For drugs and his-- Fair. I do, however, think it's amusing that Tim Walz is like, because I went on these little youth mission retreats to China, or whatever we're calling it, when I was a teacher, right after I was a teacher, because of that, I know more about China than even Donald Trump does. Sure. Guy who was present for four years, I bet that did it. And if Donald Trump had gone on my field trips with the kids, he would know more than he does now. Why weren't you doing international chaperone trips for school-age children in the 1980s during the Chinese Revolution, Donald Trump? And also, Tim, why did you say that you're at the riots when you weren't? That you started trade war that he ends up losing. So this is about trying to understand the world. It's about trying to do the best you can for your community. And then it's putting yourself out there and letting your folks understand what it is. My commitment, whether it be through teaching, which I was good at, or whether it was being a good soldier, or being a good member of Congress, those are the things that I think are the values that people care about. Governor, just to follow up on that, the question was, can you explain the discrepancy? No, just-- All I said on this was, is I got there that summer to misspoke on this. So I will just-- that's what I said. So I was in Hong Kong and China during the democracy protest went in. And I learned a lot of what-- Stop. He's in governance. Just stop talking. You said the thing. Stop. He even pauses. He's like, there's got to be-- you didn't take my two minutes of bluster as something of an answer? Damn it. Well, I just said a thing that wasn't true. I don't know what else to tell you. But I do like the way he pauses. He's like, I got to be done, right? And then there's an awkward silence for two seconds, then he comes back in. Summer and misspoke on this. So I will just-- that's what I said. So I was in Hong Kong and-- Oh, he was in the democracy protest went in. And from that, I learned a lot of what needed to be in governance. He looks terrified. And he should be because he's being called out on a flagrant and obvious lie. Once again, similar to his stolen valor. And I don't remember all the other things that they brought up in the interview. But David got any thoughts on that one? Yeah, he's got to prove to me that he's not a double agent at this point. Yeah, like so many others who come back from doing-- I just-- anybody who is in a high level of government now who just happened to be doing really important missionary work after his military service in the 1980s during the Cultural Revolution. And now he's running for office. Yeah, come on. I don't know. I need more. Yep, same. Now, they went on to-- this is a combination of two moments because we're not going fully in chronological order here. But who gives a shit? Y'all probably didn't even watch it anyway. You're just here to hear what we thought about it, because you're too lazy to watch this boring shit yourself. Now, there's two points where endorsements were mentioned. JD Vance brought it up at one point with his endorsements from RFK-- no, yeah. RFK and Tulsi, et cetera, et cetera. And Tim Malls decided to-- and I think it was taken from his closing speech, which we might get to later. But he had some endorsements as well. And we're going to list both of those right now. Now, I'm really proud, especially given that I was raised by two lifelong blue collar Democrats, to have the endorsement of Bobby Kennedy Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard. Lifelong leaders in the Democratic coalition, of course. They don't agree with me and Donald Trump on every issue. We don't have to agree on every issue. But we're united behind a basic American first amendment principle that we ought to debate our differences. We ought to argue about them. We ought to try to persuade our fellow Americans. Kamala Harris is engaged in censorship at an industrial scale. She did it during COVID. She's dope. Yeah, he's got Tulsi. He's got RFK. He's got the fake. He's got all this support from former leftists even. But who's Tim Walscott? Let's find out. Obviously matters. It matters that you're here. And I'm as surprised as anybody of this coalition that Kamala Harris has built, from Bernie Sanders to Dick Cheney to Taylor Swift. And I'm a political champion between them. And they don't all agree on everything. But they are truly optimistic people. Hold on, you're telling me that Dick Cheney and Taylor Swift sometimes have disagreements in life? They don't always agree that Taylor Swift and Dick Cheney. What the fuck? Can you imagine going out to close and brag about endorsements from even Bernie Sanders at this fucking point? Who cares about Bernie Sanders? Bernie Sanders has bent over and taken it from every single regime that's come through and pushed him out of the way and screwed him over from Hillary to Biden to now Kamala. But Bernie Sanders is going to endorse Tim Wals and Kamala Harris. And Tim should be proud that the blue no matter who Bernie took his paycheck and once again bent over and took it. That and then we've got Dick Cheney, former Republican neo-con piece of shit, war dog. And then we've got also Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift who writes songs about heartbreak and being sad. She is loved by many white women and children across the country. And what else do you need when you're running for president than a piece of shit, a piece of shit, and Taylor Swift? Dave, who's got the better color? And for him to act like this coalition is such an amazing thing that we're seeing come out of the woodwork with all these obvious people that were definitely going to support us. And meanwhile, JD Vance has got former Democrats who are sane and rational and moderates and shit. This one made me giggle. What do you think, Dave? It's funny, man. Yeah, to call it the coalition, we've talked about how these guys are just the inversion of everything good. It's funny, though, and I was listening to Scott Horton on Tom Woods earlier. And he's great. You guys should obviously catch that episode. But if you know Scott Horton, you know that he's a '90s skater kid who's a great libertarian, definitely not culturally conservative in any way, even though he lives in Texas. He actually rebels against that quite a bit. But he was talking about this, like, man, it's Trump. You get a couple stragglers here, Tulsi, RFK, and the people. And Israel, to be fair. But everything else, Kamala, Dick Cheney, Taylor Swift, the Clintons, the Bushes, the NATO, the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, the entire establishment, all of the media industrial complex, everything else is on that side. So Scott doesn't appear like he's going to vote for Trump, but he really, really is supporting that side over the other side. Like, it's so very clear that that is the establishment side. That's the regime side. That's what the regime wants. So it might be risky on the other side. You might not get what is advertised, but it's not guaranteed. Right. Now, on Bernie, I did have another clip pulled up from about early September when Bernie Sanders was asked about Kamala Harris kind of going back on her progressive ideals. And let's see what Bernie had to say about that. Subscribe, Vice President Kamala Harris, as a progressive. She has previously supported Medicare for all now. She does not. She's previously supported a ban on fracking now. She does not. These, Senator, are ideas that you have campaigned on. Do you think that she is abandoning her progressive ideals? No, I don't think she's abandoning her ideals. I think she's trying to be pragmatic in doing what she thinks is right in order to win the election. Doing what she thinks is right in order to win the election, that should be called the Bernie Sanders story of stories, even though he's never won one, at least not in presidential earnings. Yeah, saying the quiet part out loud, she's not going back on her word. She's lying to you. She's saying what you want to hear in order to win the election. She's being-- we'll call it pragmatic when she says things that are completely in opposition to things that she said three months ago. It's just being pragmatic to win the election, normal stuff, for Bernie Sanders. It's so sad, man. Poor progressives who spent time and energy, because I know that he was like whatever they thought that he was the left equivalent to Ron Paul. But when it really counts, not political opinions or cultural preferences, like what's in here, like that guy is just his soul is dog shit. You don't give a fuck about the people who care about what you claim to hear about. What an absolute disgrace. I'll just say it again, Ron Paul in the Republican Party did not endorse John McCain in 2008. He did not endorse Mitt Romney. He hasn't even endorsed Trump, though. I wouldn't be surprised if he did that this year. But probably not, probably not, because he keeps it that real and doesn't want his opinion, people's opinion of him to be swayed or whatever. But yeah, Bernie Sanders is just such a scumbag. Imagine that going back 20 years to tell people, oh, he'll be on the same side as Dick Cheney in just a couple years after the War on Terror kicks off. What an absolute fraud. During the times of, yeah, I ran attacking Israel in World War III about to pop off, Bernie Sanders chose the side of Dick Cheney as the anti-war guy. Good job, Bernie. Anyway, back to JD Vance, because they got into it also a little bit about free speech, which I thought was a good back and forth here. The most sacred right under the United States democracy is the First Amendment. You yourself have said there's no First Amendment right to misinformation. Kamala Harris wants to use the power of the government and big tech to silence people. He even butts in to be like, a threat or hate speech. That's all I'm trying to stop. Just the mean word. That's all from speaking their minds. That is a threat to democracy that will long outlive this present political moment. I would like Democrats and Republicans to both reject censorship. Let's persuade one another. Let's argue about ideas and then let's come together afterwards. You can't yell fire in a crowded theater. That's the task. That's just pretty-- First off, yes, you can. You can yell fire in a crowded theater. And it's been rolled upon. But you can also yell fire in a crowded theater if there is a fire. Yeah. Just Tim Walz trying to defend his not all speech, his free speech statement is fun to watch because he is-- I don't know, he seems like a real sweaty, squirrely nervous. He's got a lot of nervous energy to him. So he just says stuff. And then people are like, what did you mean by that? And he's like, ah, well, I'm a knucklehead. And I don't know where it's good. And my wife says that I'm a dummy. So it's a vote for me. It's never-- I wonder if he's that much of an idiot. I doubt it. Just threats and hate speech. It's hate speech is not making threats. Yeah. And saying fire in a crowded theater is not making a threat. You are not allowed to threaten someone. But I wonder if he's that silly that he's conflating the two. Oh, hate speech is threatening violence. And maybe his world could be. Sure. In court cast. Tim, fire in a crowded theater. You guys wanted to kick people off of Facebook for saying that Toddler should-- Senator, the governor does have a floor. To fire in a crowded theater, that is criticizing the policies of the government, which is the right of every American. Senator, the governor does have-- He's comparing the censorship of saying, you can't yield fire in a crowded theater to censoring people on Facebook for having political opinions that you disagree with. So that's the-- I mean, if we do, when hate speech laws are fully enforced, there will be no podcast anymore. Because it's only a matter of time before hate speech turns to wrong thing, turns to just whatever. All the things we talk about on here will are damnable by probably what's to come. I've read 1984. What they're doing with Tim Walls-- and when I-- they, let's establish that. The democratic establishment and whatever the regime-- what they're doing with Tim Walls is so insidious. And this has nothing really to do with the guy, because I'm not sure if he's a useful idiot or if he really believes this or if he's corrupted or whatever. But they're trying to take this guy who, like, appears to be what boomers remember as a blue dog Democrat. He's reminiscent of this thing that actually did exist at one point in time, but no longer does. He'd make sure to tell you that, well, when I was growing up, I had a gun in my car ready for hunting after football practice so that he can get in the head of these people who still believe in these things. But he actually is like a corporatist communist, or that's who he serves. But he's good at kind of like playing the guy. I mean, they love putting him, like, in the videos, fixing cars and talking about how they're middle-- buying corn nuts at the grocery store. Oh, my God. Just so you know, we're one of you, and I'm a regular guy, and I care about America and manufacturing. Listen up, white guys. I've been doing my own research, and I've found out that I've been looking into this gummel on to most guys. It seems like they're talking to guys just like you and me. Just normal white folk. If you don't know what we're referring to, go listen to last week's episode. Great one. That's why I appreciate Gavin Newsom, because he actually embodies and is fully open about-- He's honestly a piece of shit. Yes, he embodies the Democratic Party perfectly, and that's who they should get behind. Yeah, don't beat her on the bush. Just say it. I'm a piece of shit, and be it. Be that piece of shit. Now, speaking of getting in people's heads here, let's see-- I thought that this was a pretty slick trick that J.D. Vance pulled, where he sounds like he's going to agree with Tim Walz and then flips it up a bit. This is on immigration. So, well, Tim just said something that I agree with. We don't want to blame immigrants for higher housing prices, but we do want to blame Kamala Harris for letting in millions of illegal aliens into this country, which does-- Yeah, we don't want to blame the people that are here. We want to blame Kamala Harris for letting them be here. It's not their fault for taking advantage of an opportunity. It's Kamala Harris' fault for giving them the opportunities. Go fuck yourself. Which does drive up cost, Tim. 25 million illegal aliens competing with Americans for scarce homes is one of the most significant drivers of home prices in the country. It's why we have massive increases in home prices that have happened right alongside massive increases in illegal alien populations under Kamala Harris' leadership. I do like that he's using illegal aliens, the legal technical term for it, because they're trying to make-- if you're against illegal immigration, that's because you're against immigrants, not because you're against illegality and illegal behavior from people who are not legally allowed to be here yet. So I think it's an important distinction that he made there that does make it harder for them to argue with, especially when they're pretending to be the strong ones on the border these days, which is an amazing back bend of magnificent proportions. Now, Tim-- no, JD Vance had a moment where he got his mic cut off also, and he insisted that he be allowed to speak. And we're going to get to that in just a minute. But I want to listen to their reactions to it after the fact, because they-- well, the white women on MSNBC are-- hold on, this is playing my ear-- are big mad that JD Vance would talk over a woman. And here's what they have to say. It's muting powers. And I actually think if you're a woman, that might be the worst moment JD Vance had, because he was going to mansplain right over that mute button. And again, I don't pretend to know how everyone will react to this. I think that a lot of women in positions of authority that should command respect, just favor to that dynamic role. No, he looks like such a little bitch. When you're done, let me know. I definitely can't cut you off, bitch. But I've got some things to say, too. Let me mansplain to you what happened there. That should command respect, just favor to that dynamic. By virtue of the dynamic of being a strong woman, many people will be upset with JD Vance for speaking over a woman, the moderator. And respect, just favor to that dynamic. We'll see themselves, and some do, the disrespect of them, and talk over it. I mean, there was a moment like that with the vice presidential in the Harris-Pence debate. All right. So they're mad about that, and let's find out what that is. I just wanted to play that first, so you keep in mind what she thinks is too mansplainy, and too misogynistic, chauvinistic sexist of JD Vance here, as the moderator, JD Vance-- I think Tim Walsh just finished speaking. The moderator says, actually, blah, blah, blah, on immigration, and JD Vance is like, no, that you said that you weren't going to fact-check, and so you're fact-checking, so I have a right to respond to that. Because apparently, there was explicitly a rule for no fact-checking, and they went against that here. Thank you, Governor. And just to clarify for our viewers, Springfield, Ohio, does have a large number of Haitian migrants who have legal status, temporary protected status. Well, Mark, but thank you, Senator. We have so much to get to. Mark, I think it's important because-- We're going to turn out of the economy, thank you. Mark, the rules were that you got to work on a fact-check, and since you're fact-checking me, I think it's important to say what's actually going on. So there's an application called the CBP-1 app, where you can go on as an illegal migrant, apply for asylum, or apply for parole, and be granted legal status at the wave of a Kamala Harris open border wand. That is not a person coming in, applying for a green card, and waiting for 10 years. Thank you, Senator. That is the sanitation of illegal immigration, Margaret, by our own leadership. Thank you, Senator, for describing the legal process. We have so much to get to, Senator. Thank you. Margaret, there is a man talking. So that is what all the women are supposed to be upset about that. Well, first off, there were a lot of people online who were saying that this was a loss for JD Vance because he sounded like an idiot because he said, you said that you weren't going to fact-check, bro. Don't fact-check me. That's not what he was saying. He was saying, the rules were that you weren't going to argue with the fucking people on the stage 'cause you're supposed to be a moderator, and you're doing that. And you're saying that there's all these legal immigrants, but they're using this app to get through to claim legal citizenship or something. I don't know the exact specifics, but they're using this workaround, and you're including them in the numbers, is why he was trying to cut her off. But I don't know, women out there, do you, does this make you like JD Vance less because he had the gall and the balls and the misogyny to dare defend himself when somebody's, you know, calling him out and not letting him speak? Is it misogynistic for a man to respond to allegations that are untrue made by a woman in his direction on a debate stage where they were in agreement that would not be happening? I don't know, you tell me, you're the woman, not me. Dave, what do you think? - I was gonna say that, oh, there's gotta be, yeah, women are way better than that, and they are. But there's the propaganda that they're hit with, and it's just so bad. You gotta be like, look, like out of the mouth of babes, right? Like the little girl in the beginning little intro there was like, yeah, it'd be great to have a black woman president, but man, I'm still over, not a Trump. This is, nah, I'm gonna wait, I'm gonna wait this out. - Well, she's only 11th, so she's got time to wait and hold off on her vote. - Right. But don't get played, don't sell out future generations of young girls and women to some corporatist who are. - Absolutely, speaking of corporatist whoers, let's go back to MSNBC and find out what Simone Sanders has to say about Tim Walz being much too nice. - There were so many niceties on that debate stage tonight. I am just kinda like, well, if you agree so much with J.D. Biz, why should they vote for you? - I fully believe that Governor Walz went out there tonight and did what was practiced in debate prep, did what the strategy was that the team put together. That was not the Governor Walz that we, that I had seen out on the campaign trail. - 'Cause we've seen Governor Walz need such a hard, tough guy before leading up to this point. - Governor Walz, more like Governor White. Governor White man. - That's not the Governor Walz that I had seen during the Veepstakes, right? That was not the J.D. Vance that I know to be true. I mean, goodness, J.D. Vance was on that stage. He was sorry about Amber Thurman. He was sorry about a lot of stuff. We get things wrong, but do you give it the policy? And then I just, you know, that's not the Margaret in North that I know. Margaret don't do that on Sunday morning. - Everybody was too nice. All these bitches weren't screaming at it. I mean, she's in fairness. She doesn't sound that different from us. Like, come on, come on, yell at each other, bitch. That's us, so whatever. But it is interesting, 'cause I'm kinda torn on it. I agree with those who are praising them for being diplomatic. I think that we could use a little more harsh truth, but it doesn't have to be name-calling petty truth. I think I am perfectly fine with them not being bigger assholes. Sure, it would've made for a better show, and I would've enjoyed it more to some degree and a different degree. But I'm perfectly fine with people, anybody, trying to bring the tensions down a little bit and actually try to have some sort of a conversation and be understanding of other humans. Now, also, I agree with her to some degree. Like, yo, this person disagrees vehemently with you on certain things, and like, even if you hate JD Vance, attack him, attack him on those things. But I don't know, I'm torn, Dave. I'm torn. - Good point, if we'll use that to piggyback, like bounce off and talk about that. No, dude, there was too much agreement from both of them. Now, obviously she wanted Tim Walz to go ham on JD Vance because he is a surrogate of a literal Nazi. That's what he needed to do. But there was too much agreement. Like, I think, you know, like JD Vance talked about, what was it? Was it climate change? Like, oh yeah, we need to do some things about that and like make a bet. Like, no, he was not terribly too brave on that. And yeah, I would have liked to see a little bit more, you know, obviously he's got to cover for Trump. So there was no mention of Operation Warp Speed or any of the $6.57 trillion that Trump put into the economy, which is wide, you know, we're still dealing with that, inflation, that blowback right now. They can't say it because they're all complicit. They all use the, the moderators use the Federal Reserve, I think, for like some statistics. And so did JD Vance. Oh, well, the Fed says this. The pro, who like, I'd like to hear some truth and some seriousness out of these two people too. But, you know, beggars can't be choosers. That's what I definitely am at this juncture. - Absolutely, I am in the same boat right there with you. Now, speaking of people being too nice, here's JD Vance trying to sympathize a little bit with Tim Walz, which I thought was a, one of the more touching moments of the night where he's trying to put himself in Tim Walz's shoes and understand how hard of a job Tim Walz really has. Let's listen. - If you notice what Governor Walz just did is he said, first of all, Donald Trump has to listen to the experts. And then when he acknowledged that the experts screwed up, he said, well, Donald Trump didn't do nearly as good of a job as this exchange that he did. So what Tim Walz is doing, and I honestly, Tim, I think he got a tough job here. 'Cause you've got to play whack-a-mole. You've got to pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver rising take-home pay, which of course he did. You've got to pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver lower inflation, which of course he did. And then you simultaneously got to defend Kamala Harris's atrocious economic record, which has made gas, groceries, and housing unaffordable fair American citizens. I was raised by a woman who would sometimes go into medical debt so that she could put food on the table in our household. I know what it's like to not be able to afford the things that you need to afford. - See, I grew up in a small Appalachian town, and I mean, JD Vance did the same thing quite a bit, and I was making fun of him too. He kept bringing up his upbringing over and over again. - We can do so much better. To all of you watching, we can get back to an America that's affordable again. We just got to get back to common sense economic principles. - All right, so there at the beginning, he says-- - If you notice what Governor Walz just did is he said, first of all, Donald Trump has to listen to the experts. - So Donald Trump, he said, Tim Walz said that Donald Trump has to listen to the experts, and then he goes on to say, in fairness, I can kind of empathize with Tim because Tim's got a fucking hard job. He's got to pretend like Donald Trump did really, really bad, and Kamala Harris did really, really good. And that is no easy feat to pull off. And that is the entirety of Tim Walz's current job. His job is to lie as hard as he fucking can. As much as he has lied throughout his political career, as has been pointed out many, many times, this is the big one. This is the biggest lie of them all. Kamala Harris is crushing it and gonna do better than Donald Trump did in 2016. Not Steve. - Yeah, I think that's probably true, and he's earning more stripes right now as a servant of the regime, and he'll probably be well rewarded for it after they lose this election. And he'll probably get to be Governor some more or maybe become a Senator in the future and gain some more power and influence for himself and his family, a lot of money in losing in politics. - Yep, a lot of book deals, no matter what you do. Now, speaking of trusting the experts, well, we'll talk about that in a minute, but trust the experts first and foremost at Lone Star Injury Attorney. Have you or loved one been injured by some fucknuggets reckless driving, a tumble at your shitty job, or some other form of dumb shit outside of your control? Well, fear not because today's episode is sponsored by A Lawyer. Lone Star Injury Attorneys is an award-winning personal injury law firm that achieves maximum results for its injured clients. Max The Axe is not just a lawyer, but a hardcore Mises caucus libertarian and also a big supporter of this show in all of our bullshit. Max is the best personal injury lawyer in Texas, but don't judge him by his occupation or location. Max is an avid defender of liberty and justice in whatever state you got fucked in. If you've been injured and you're ass needs saving, go with the pros at Lone Star Injury Attorneys. Visit LoneStar Injury Attorneys.com or Google Max The Axe. Consultations are free and you don't pay a single dime unless you win. Once again, go to LoneStar Injury Attorneys.com and get your ass covered. ♪ Chase, chase, chase, chase, chase, chase, chase ♪ ♪ C-H-A-S-E-J-E-S ♪ ♪ Nah ♪ ♪ Chase ♪ (clapping) - All right, it's Chase and cop. We gotta do it, we gotta get it in. You know, I'm peering out on how much I give a shit anymore, but at the same time, when there's something to cover, we gotta cover it and when the, they're lucky to have you, bro. You're like the shadow government keeping racism alive. You're the only person, you're the only person. (laughs) It's actually. - Are you saying that the Chase Oliver Mike Tremont campaign is equivalent to racism? Is that what you just said? - It's like the inversion. - Oh, yeah, it's a tactic. - Well, no, they are actually very racist people. - Yes, and we gotta talk about one thing in particular, speaking of trust, the experts last night, Chase put out this spicy tweet. He said, #protip, trust experts, not government bureaucrats. That's it, that's the tweet. Trust the experts, don't trust government bureaucrats. Two-hitch, of course, I said, let's see. Quote, "It's not enough to be passively bad messengers. "We must be actively anti-good messaging." Thank you. Thank you. (audience applauds) - Yeah, like, read, I wanna say read the room, but at some point, what can you even say to this anymore? Of all the ways to phrase the thing that you're trying to say, trust the experts is not the best when you're being criticized for trusting the experts and the regime and everything on the COVID shit. Like, that's one of the biggest arguments that people have, one of the biggest complaints about Chase, is that he fell for the quote, trusting the experts strategy. And here we are, still posting, trust the experts in the middle of this debate. Dave, got any thoughts? - Yeah, it's so much worse, man, than a guy who did the wrong thing and then recognized it and then course corrected. You have an idiot and a regime stooge, whether he knows it or not, just unapologetically stupid, unapologetically a servant of the regime. 'Cause he trusts the experts and still does. I would like, if he would have just come out once and been like, "Look, man, I don't know. "I trusted my doctor 'cause like he's been my doctor forever. "So yeah, I got jabbed up a couple times." But then I stopped because I realized how stupid this was. He's never done that. - Yeah, he still trusts his doctor. He's like, "I trusted my doctor, so I did it." And he's blaming his doctor, but then he's still trusting his doctor and he would do it again. - I would have been-- - That's the experts. And he fails to make any distinction between the government and the experts. (laughing) I can't, I don't even feel bad for him. I just like, it's so sad. - It's so stupid. - It's pathetic. - Yeah. Now Chase also came out after the last debate about a week ago and he said, "This is what Haitian immigrants actually eat, "delicious food and an immigrant community "that is happy to work and contribute. "Good stuff all around." And as you can see here, he has a plate of what appears to be a pile of maggots, three fried pickles, random vegetables on top of what I can only assume are two cat legs in a bowl. Salad or burger toppings on a plate in a Coca-Cola. This is the culture I applaud it. Thank you, that is all that needs to be said there unless you have anything to say, Dave. - I just think it's funny, it's like, oh, the culture, if you don't know, yeah, they too enjoy iceberg lettuce and some like, you know, industrial tomatoes that slipped off your hooky. - Who doesn't love maggot balls in a little Dixie cup of beans? What are you talking about? - Right, it's Coca-Cola, we're civilized over here, okay? We drink Coca-Cola. - That's right. - And then chicken wings. - See that Pepsi hiding behind the napkin stand there? It's a sneaky Pepsi back there. - Anyway. - Right, pathetic. Just so stupid, so stupid. Why are you even talking about that? You want so badly to be a presidential candidate and you're so stupid with the stuff that you choose to talk about. Oh, oh my God, people are hurting right now. I'm insulted, it pisses me off. People are hurting and you wanna talk about, actually Haitian cuisine is this delicious flatter right here. Look at this spread. Eat your heart out, Jeremy Kaufman. - Yes. Now on that note, I got an email from Chase Oliver yesterday that I just had to share because I like to punish you guys just as much as I punish myself. Dear friends of liberty, recent Democratic VP candidate Tim Walz offered up his family's hot dish recipe to donors. We haven't seen it, but we're pretty sure. It's going to be an unoriginal, it's going to be unoriginal and bland. So Chase Oliver decided to offer you his recipe for freedom for free, serves 330 plus million. Prep time, 248 plus years. Total time ongoing, difficulty level easy if you leave people alone, ingredients. One, heaping cup of individual liberty. Two tablespoons of the non-aggression principle. Always fresh, never expired. Oh God, a pinch of small government just enough to ensure roads and courts. Oh, wait a second, wait a second, just enough government for the roads, man. I didn't even read through this, but as the libertarian candidate, I imagine that you got a little bit of backlash for just enough government to build the roads. My roads, bro. Four ounces of personal responsibility. Three tablespoons of free market enterprise, a dash of open immigration for flavor recommended. Speaking of, here's the flavor I thought he's referring to. Anyway, let's see where were we. One gallon of fiscal discipline, don't worry, it doesn't spoil a sprinkle of privacy rights to be personal taste. Two sticks of civil liberties never cut quarters, a generous spoonful of decentralization, peace and tolerance for balance. Two cups of Second Amendment to preserve the structure instructions, which is an 11-step process and I am done. (upbeat music) - Dave, I'm so glad you put the kicker on the end, that was, please put the kicker on the end, please put the kicker on the end. - The Dave, you got any thoughts on Chase Oliver's recipe for freedom, #chaseyourdreams, #thirdpartyvotes, #goldlivesmatter or whatever the fuck. Oh, it's beautiful. - Oh no, dude, I just, I bounce back and forth between sadness, rage and just utter laughter and comedic value, like that was pretty funny, but not because- - I think it was unintentionally funny, yes. - Yes, yes, absolutely it was. They thought that this is gonna be the thing that fucking brings them up to third place or whatever, I don't know what they're- - And as long as that was, we were only about halfway through that joke, I guess is what they were going for. Only about halfway through it, who is reading that and going, you know what, I think these guys deserve a shot 'cause they know how to serve up a dish so hot that not even Kamala Harris or Donald Trump can stop it. They've got that hot dish for Liberty, baby. They've got the recipe, right? Like somebody, some intern somewhere, spent hours probably thinking up this thing and they went back and forth in a committee and then decided to release this as an email out to the general public. I wanna say it's shockingly tone deaf, but it's not. It's just par for the course at this point, Dave. - Yeah, and thank goodness that there are people like us, dude, who provide this work as future posterity so that when they come out, as they inevitably will, when they have the worst showing for the party, probably ever, and they go, well, it's because we didn't get any money from them or they didn't promote, no, it is all your fault. It's all your fault. You sold everybody a bill of bullshit. Everybody told you that it would go this way because you are losers and it's not our fault. You suck, it's yours. So remember that. That when this goes down and they'll both come out. Chase will run for chair or he'll do something else because that's what he'll parlay his little career into and Mike Turmont will bitch about how he didn't get the support that he needed. And if you want to just give him me $10 million, then I could have run a national campaign with respect. Fuck you, dude. - Dude, I'm still getting emails from the Turmont campaign begging for money. And part of the reason why they're begging for money is to cover his cost of primary campaigning. So he still hasn't even paid off his debts from running to become the Libertane Vice President candidate. - Yeah, that was a bad wager on your behalf, man. - You should say if it works out in the end. But speaking of embarrassments, let's move on to... Mike Turmont, who says, "Vance is embarrassed by his past statements. We should embarrass him and walls both. What should embarrass him and walls both? He's keeping the Libertarian Party, the Green Party, and RFK off ballots. By the way, we are on the ballot in 47 states. Vote all of our slash Turmont. Hashtag VP Debate 2024. Got 'em, boom. Yeah, let's get it. Where's my stinger? Here we go. (phone ringing) So Vance is embarrassed by his past statements. I'm not sure if he meant Vance or if he meant walls. I think that of people on that debate stage who are embarrassed by past statements, it was not JD Vance. It's not the first one that comes to mind for me. But since the debate basically started with Tim Walz, we've noticed you're a liar. But yeah, what should embarrass JD Vance and Tim Walz more than anything is that nobody cares about the Libertarians. Like they should be embarrassed for not caring about you. Tim Walz and JD Vance should be embarrassed for not knowing that you exist. (upbeat music) - David, got any thoughts? - Yeah, it's just, well, to continue along the central thesis of this is just so embarrassing. It's like really out of all the people you wanna bitch at, first of all, you're making this about you. And it's not entertaining. Like you could be giving real solutions or like talking about how, you know, the Fed is the problem and nobody talks about that. You're an economist, Mike Turmont. And instead you wanna go, "They didn't let me in the debate." - Right. - You're a faggot. That's so fucking cucked, dude. I just, what a, what bitch behavior? What absolute bitch behavior do they didn't let me in the debate? And you're gonna blame the guys that have nothing to do with it, by the way. They were selected, what, three months ago? You're gonna blame them for the duopoly? You know what I'm saying? They have nothing to do with that. And you want them to make a point? I think we should let the Green Party be constitutionalist and libertarians. - JD Vance is supposed to get up on stage and be like, "You know what? "Something's missing here. "Where's Mike Turmont? "Where is that guy?" I thought he was gonna, like, yeah, sure bro. - This makes me want to make sure that there's only two voices. It's just so lame, I would be so embarrassed if he were up there going, whatever he has to say. Oh, there's good people at the Federal Reserve. We just need to make sure that they can fulfill their charter. Just gotta make 'em do their job better of being evil dictators. Then I'll clean it up. - Nah, I'll take JD Vance over, Mike Turmont. - Right. - Alice here included. - Yeah, embarrassment, pot, call, kettle, black, or not black, don't call 'em black. Indian. (upbeat music) ♪ Chase ♪ ♪ Chase ♪ ♪ Chase ♪ ♪ Chase ♪ ♪ Chase ♪ (upbeat music) ♪ Chase ♪ - Oh, right. (audience applauding) Yes, yes, yes. Now, all we've got left are these closing statements that I thought we would get into just a little bit. Well, probably just a little bit. I mean, I want to watch them both and comment on them. This is gonna be a shorter episode than some, but as I said, there will be no after party, but there will be a bunch of bonus content coming to you guys in the Downers Club very, very soon. So if you want the interviews early, if you want to get all the hot, spicy takes from the Ian Carroll's, the skillets of the world, the who knows, maybe we interviewed Rob Schneider. Maybe we did, maybe we didn't. There's no way of knowing. Maybe we interviewed Russell Brand and Jordan Peterson and Robert of Kennedy Jr. You'll just have to go join the Downers Club and find out for yourself. Now, let's talk about these closing statements and my cat's gonna scream at me from across the room and then we'll get out of here. - Thank you, Senator Vann. Thank you, Senator Vanns. Thank you to CBS News. And most importantly, thank you to all of you. If you're still up and the folks who miss dancing with our stars, I appreciate it. But look, I mean, just I'm regular. Just say what your job is there. Your job is to get white boomers on board for Kamala. So, yeah, all the white boomers. I'm sorry that she missed 60 minutes or dancing with the stars tonight. I'm sorry that you had to watch a little old knucklehead me being a little old Tim. - Support of the democracy, Matt. - What's that? You muted, I think. You muted, I think. - I know it's awfully laid out there, but thank you for sticking with us. - Yeah, we know that the president of the United States has already gone to bed two hours ago, but thank you to the rest of you for sticking it out with us. It matters, it matters that you're here. And I'm as surprised as anybody of this coalition that Kamala Harris has built from Bernie Sanders to Dick Cheney to Taylor Swift and a whole bunch of folks in the community in there. And they don't all agree on everything, but they are truly optimistic people. They believe in a positive future of this country and one where our politics can be better than it is. And I have to tell you, that better than it is is the sense of optimism that there can be an opportunity economy that works for everyone, not just to get by, but to get ahead. And the idea that freedom really means something, not the freedom of government to be in your bedroom or exam room, but the freedom for you to make choices about yourself. Now, look, we all know who Donald Trump is. He's told us, and as Maya Angelos said, believe him when he told you that. His first and non-- - Did Maya Angelos say that about Donald Trump? - That was not a quote, exactly. - You know what Maya Angelos said. - Definitely not about Trump. - Yeah. - Believe him when Donald Trump says that he's a jerk. - Your old dress talked about American car-- - You know the thing. - And then he spent four years trying to maybe do that. - I like that quote. Donald Trump started his campaign, or back in 2016, he ran on carnage in his address was on carnage and then he might have done that for four years. That's his bold statement. He may have done, he maybe did that. Let's listen to that again. - His first inaugural dress talked about American carnage and then he spent four years trying to maybe do that. - Trying to maybe do that. - Not doing that, trying to maybe possibly do that. Not trying to do that, but trying to maybe do that. - Did you catch how he went and said sport and then spent four years? This is because he's just rehearsed this so many times. Let me get it out. And that's why I tend to think that he just forgot the couple words with the school shooters earlier. He's just like, he's so rehearsed. - He's just like... - Sure. - Made it clear, he will stand with Donald Trump's agenda. He will continue to push down that road. Excuse me, Kamala Harris gives us a... - I did notice there was a surprising lack of agenda 2025 on In This Debate, Dave. Do you think that they've given up on that? Or did Tim forget? - I don't, I think that Tim is kind of, like whenever they have to stand right next to the guy, they go a little bit softer. But dude, really quick, just back it up. - Oh, Kamala didn't it? - She was talking about 2025. - Next to Donald Trump. - No, you're right, maybe she's got a bigger swinging dick than Tim Walsh. But back it up. - I think that goes without saying. - Back it up five seconds. And when he switches to what, from what Donald Trump has done to what Kamala Harris is doing, he goes up two pitches in his voice. He's pretty... - What Donald Trump's been doing this, but Kamala does this. - Down that road. Excuse me. Kamala Harris gives us... (laughing) He raises up entirely. Kamala Harris gives us a... Right. - It's like, he's Joe Biden a second before, and then he turns into like, I don't know, Mr. Rogers. Donald Trump is gonna, he's gonna, he's got a bad agenda and J.D. Vance is with that too. Kamala Harris, on the other hand, she's a real nice gal. - We'll continue to push down that road. Excuse me. Kamala Harris gives us a different option. Now I have to tell you. - Sounds like a different guy. - Careful about the quote, but there's one that Senator Vance said that does resonate with me. - I like what you had to clear his throat before too. Like, all right, here we go. - Say the lie. Say the lie. - Don't my iris is great. - He said, Donald Trump makes the people I care about afraid. A lot of America feels that way. We don't need to be afraid. Franklin Roosevelt was right. All's we have to fear is fear itself. Kamala Harris is bringing us a new way forward. She's bringing us a politics of joy. She's bringing real solutions for the middle class. And she's centering you at the heart of that. All the while asking everyone. Join this movement. Make your voices heard. Let's look for a new day where everybody gets that opportunity and everybody gets a chance to thrive. I humbly ask for your vote on November 5th for Kamala Harris. - Not a terrible closer, I will say. There were some stupid things in there, but yeah, all in all, it was just as vague. I would say it was vague, but I don't know that J.D. Vance's is any less vague and typically in a closing statement, you're gonna have some vagary to it 'cause you're not really getting into the issues. But Kamala Harris is gonna, the problem is that the things that he's being vague on are the things that have been, Kamala Harris has been vague on the entire time. We haven't really gotten answers for how this, what's it called? Whatever economy, inclusion economy. What's she going with? - I think so. - Something like that. You know, equity economy. That's what we're, that's one of the big ones and we're going to fix the problems. All the problems will be fixed and Donald Trump created the problems and Kamala Harris is gonna fix them. Sure, not a terrible closer, what do you think Dave? - I mean, really actually fantastic. And he does, he delivered what the think tank, whoever's running the show, he delivered their message well. Like they are corporate communists and they are gutting the middle class and they don't care about you and they have sold this country out to corporations and they are going along with the globalist, corporate technocratic, satanic agenda. But do they sure know how to put on the show? And I'm here 'cause I care about you. And you know what? I might be a corporate just a Satanist communist right now but I did grow up in a small town and I used to fix cars just like you. And I like to watch "Dancing with the Stars" just like you. So they do the whole thing, the dance and come up with great names that sound good for their programs. An inclusion economy. So everybody can get ahead-- - I feel good economy, a joy economy. As Chris always says, politics of joy, which was a dream to go back to politics of joy. And he says, "Hello, what the fuck does that mean?" Yeah, what are the politics of joy exactly? - Dude, I think this is what motivates most people when they vote is which guy made me feel better. - Sure. - Which guy gave me the best beer with? - Right, so when some guy comes out there and goes, "Just don't we wanna look forward together? "Don't we wanna move up together and everybody has a--" Like you're literally saying nothing but all the things sound good. You have to be a real-- - I don't think it's bad. Don't we want things to not be bad again? I think we can all agree, we don't want things to be bad anymore, right? You don't want things to be bad, I don't want things to be bad. I've been in bad things, and I don't like bad things. You don't like bad things, you're in the mail. I didn't cause bad things, Trump caused bad things. When comma becomes present, no more bad things. Now I do wanna note a couple of comments. We did not get, we did not do fake super chats today because I didn't mention it. Nobody felt like doing it apparently, but we do have some comments that I wanted to read 'cause Grumpy Numb said, "Cute Cat Dan." - He's referring to. - I don't think you gave JD Vance his closing statement. - Not yet, we're getting there. - We will get there. - Okay, I thought you were. - I thought you were piecing out first. I was like, "That's really, that's election interference." - This is the cat that he's referring to. (laughing) - Look at that pussy. (laughing) - Lauren says, "Are we going to talk about how Dan Small Dog, "about how Dan Small Dog wearing a pink sweater?" Yes, apparently we are. I'm gonna bring this comment section up for a second. Let's see. Let's see. The cat, the cat we're hearing probably belongs to one of the other girlfriends. No, that is my cat. Dan is a cat, dad says heffalumps. I wonder what color sweater the cat is wearing. Chris O says, "Politics of Joy." All right, we got through some comments. Now, let's get JD Vance's closing statement. By the way, this is my cat, Ruby. - Thank Governor Walz. You folks at CVS, and of course, the American people for tuning in this evening, and one of the issues we didn't talk about was energy. And I remember when I was being raised by my grandmother, when she didn't have enough money to turn on the heat some nights because Ohio gets pretty cold at night, and because money was often very tight. And I believe, as a person who wants to be your next vice president, that we are a rich and prosperous enough country where every American, whether they're rich or poor, ought to be able to turn on their heat, and then it'll have a cold winter night, that's gotten more difficult, thanks to Kamala Harris' energy policies. I believe that whether you're rich or poor, you ought to be able to afford a nice meal for your family. That's gotten harder because of Kamala Harris' policies. I believe that whether you're rich or poor, you ought to be able to afford to buy a house, you ought to be able to live in safe neighborhoods, you ought to not have your communities flooded with fentanyl, and that too has gotten harder with Kamala, because of Kamala Harris' policies. Now, I've been in politics long enough to do what Kamala Harris does when she stands before the American people and says that on day one, she's gonna work on all these challenges I just listed. She's been the vice president for three and a half years. Day one was 14. Now, he's doing the same thing that Donald Trump did in his closer. He's saying that once again, I kind of feel like this should have been brought up sooner as with Donald Trump. All the stuff that you guys are complaining about, you've been in office for four years. Technically, in this case, I think it makes more sense for him to wait 'til the end, because Tim Walsh hasn't been in the White House for four years. But his running mate certainly has, so good on him for bringing it up. Do you think that he should have brought it up earlier on in the debate, Dave? - Sorry, brought up what earlier in the debate? - Brought up just the fact that all the stuff that Tim and Kamala are complaining about, they could, at least she could have had some say and changing that long before now because she's been in the White House for four years. - I think he did maybe once or twice say like yo man, she's been there for three and a half years, so she could do some of this stuff now instead of making political promises. Yeah, no, he should have done more than that. He was not aggressive. What he did offer was the counterbalance to Trump, so he is a government guy with military experience who has temperament and is articulate. That's, it's all the stuff Trump has not. So I'll say this, I didn't know much about the guy and I was wondering how he would perform in a debate. I just think like if you're looking for a traditional debate and somebody to bring respect back to the office, I think this guy delivers that. So that's why I would hand him the victory. - Yeah, I mean, I think it goes to that saying that Vance had the victory over walls in this and as I mentioned earlier, a lot of Democrats seem to agree and it seems hard to argue, even if you lean anyway, as far as just a debate performance goes between JD Vance's, like, I don't know, I don't remember a whole lot of gaffs that JD Vance had other than they're trying to say it was a gaff for him to cut off the moderator to make his point that was a salient point. Meanwhile, Tim Walz had, yes, I am a liar, but just 'cause I'm stupid, that was his biggest moment and I like school shooters. He had a couple of those that I think it goes without saying that JD Vance definitely won, whether you like him or not. - In 100 days ago and her policies have made these problems worse. Now, I believe that we have the most beautiful country in the world. I meet people on the campaign trail who can't afford food, but have the grace and generosity to ask me how I'm doing and to tell me their plan for my family. What that has taught me is that we have the greatest country, the most beautiful country, the most incredible people anywhere in the world, but they're not gonna be able to achieve their full dreams with the broken leadership that we have in Washington. They're not gonna be able to live their American dream if we do the same thing that we've been doing for the last three and a half years. We need change, we need a new direction, we need a president who has already done this once before and did it well, please vote for Donald Trump. And whether you vote for me or vote for Tim Walz, I just wanna say, I'm so proud to be doing this and I'm rooting for you. God bless you and good night. - Mm, okay, so, not bad, still a little vague, but again, that's what the closer has to be and he wrapped it up with. I don't know how I feel about whether you vote for me or him, you know, I'm rooting for you. I think I think it's brilliant as far as a political strategy. I think it's a brilliant way to close. Sure, if that's the route I would take at this point. But, you know, I think it is a smart move, a diplomatic move and he doesn't have, well, I was gonna say he doesn't have a whole lot to lose since he's just VP, but there was kind of a lot writing on this debate if Donald Trump and Kamala aren't going to do another debate. This is the last thing that people are gonna see before election time as far as these people go. Do you think it's enough? Do you think it's enough for Donald Trump to have it in the bag? I would say that, as I said, as clearly as a possible can, obviously J.D. Vance won this, but do you think that's enough for the, you know, bit of cluster of the last debate to be overshadowed enough that Donald Trump, you know, takes it away, Dave. - Yeah, I think that this is better for Trump, but I definitely still, if we want to big picture it and kind of wrap it up, this is all still political theater. I tend to agree with, man, who was it? Was it, who was the woman with the bangs that I told you to look at the other day? - I don't remember, but I remember the picture. - Oh, man, okay. So I believe that when, and again, I'm just the second-hand dealer of information. This wasn't my original thought, but I think that, no, you know what, it was RFK. RFK, before he joined the Trump campaign, said that J.D. Vance, coming and joining the Trump campaign, was a signifier to the intelligence apparatus, probably here and abroad, that Trump is willing to play ball. - Yeah. - So that's what he represents. If you really want to speak, like it looked like, dude, you know, yeah, it was a debate. Yeah, they asked each other some questions, but it was really the U.S. intel assets providing a platform for an Israeli intel asset versus a Chinese intel asset. - Yeah. - That's really what that was, and I think that the Israelis have it in the bag. (laughs) - Yeah. - And I'm just saying, we talked a little bit about Trump and who he has on his side. It appears that he has APAC, Israel, and the American people. And Kamala Harris has NATO, the European establishment, and all of the U.S. intel establishment. - Also Bernie Sanders and Taylor Swift. - Sure. - Yeah, roll that in. Well, Taylor Swift only gets to influence on behalf of the establishment as long as she does the thing. So that's why she has to do that. And that's why, I don't know if you saw, Dave Batista just came out and endorsed Kamala, 'cause they lost the rock. - Have seen that. - Do you need wish birds? - Saw that. I saw Willie Nelson did too. You know, yeah, these people want to, I just, yeah, we talked about Willie Nelson. That guy's a hundred. He did not have to do that, and he shouldn't have, unless he's that stupid. But yeah, the rest of these people want their position in society and in power, and they want their millions to be entertainers. So yeah, they'll keep doing that on behalf of the regime as long as it pays their bills. Keeps their people happy. - That's right. Michael McIntyre says, "Any dog under 50 pounds "is a cat, and cats are pointless." Ron Swanson. Lauren McIntyre says, "Jadey Vance's tie "amaches Dan's dog's Twitter." Coincidence? It's all adding up now. Heffalump says, "There are no coincidences." Thank you, Chat, for being fun today. You're cool, and I like you all. Thank you for being here, everybody. Thanks for hanging out on this Wednesday afternoon, a little early, but you know, now we can go and enjoy our day and pretend like the world isn't coming to an end together. Dave, you got any final thoughts? Should we talk to Steve, or should we just kill ourselves? - If you're asking me that, no, I'm older than you. I'd never even watched that show, and it feels weird. So no, I don't, I-- (laughing) - It's such a brain it up. I have hated that every time you've done it. (laughing) This is your show, and I'll do whatever you want, bro, but no, we should not talk to Steve anymore. - Well in that case, let's get out of here as we do. - By talking to Steve. - What's going on? - Fuck. (laughing) - Hey, I'm checking in. - Hey Steve, I really have been regretting saying that we shouldn't have talked to you, now that we have to talk to you again. But I do want to say that Steve, I had a great time hanging out with my internet friend, Dan, in real life, bro. Real life, we didn't hang out more. (laughing) That was the best part of my week, Steve. How 'bout you? That's why I don't like talking to you, Steve, 'cause you give me nothing back. I hate you, Steve. Yeah, I know. (laughing) All right, Dave, you're a real dick for doing that. - I am a real dick for a lot of reasons, I know. Dave, any final thoughts on this debate? And I guess that's pretty much all we talked about, that in the giant "Naked Donald Trump." And it's about it. You got any final thoughts, and where can people find you? And then we'll leave. - I like the way that you, yeah, just plot the show out. It's like, let me talk about this "Naked Donald Trump" statue, and then we'll dedicate 95% of the time to this debate. We gotta talk about this first. - Yeah, sorry. - The important thing is you gotta get back with you. I love this show, and I love talking about this shit. Even though I do resent you making me subject myself to that absolute, deep state, fraudulent theater. But it is fun, even though that guy wears "Guyliner" and the other guys all mess up on some-- - Yeah, we didn't mention JD. JD Vance is definitely wearing "Guyliner," which makes me, you know, obviously supportive more. 'Cause I can't even imagine Tim Walz trying to rock the emo look. - So that's where we're at, guys. It's the establishment here versus, you know, APAC and the Israeli establishment and the people, so choose wisely. But no, man, I really had, really, we didn't talk about it at all, but I had a great time hanging out with you in DC and our team, and that was really a lot of fun, and I wanna do more of that shit, like talking to crazy people in real life, and at least one freak of the week probably met there. But thanks for that, man. - Thanks for coming out and hanging and keep up the great work, Dan. - Absolutely, you too. Where can people find you, Dave? You can find me on Twitter at Dave versus Goliath1 and YouTube at Dave versus Goliath. All the stuff, find me on TikTok. I'm gonna start putting out some content like Ian Carroll. - Yeah. - Doing some short shit, just with 100 views instead of millions. That's the difference. - Yeah, you gotta start somewhere, you know? - Exactly, you can find me at the systemsdown.tv @tsidepod on Twitter, Dan@tsidepod.com, or wherever the systems are sold. Now, I do want to end on just, since Dave brought up the weekend, here's one of my highlights from the weekend, which was mentioned a bit in the intro, and we'll just let this play. We can talk over it if we want to, but once this is over, we're gonna kick out of here, and thank you all for being here. Thank you for hanging out, and we'll see you guys. Next time, this is the massive protest that happened in D.C. during Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. speech on Sunday. - Malaria, that killed tens of thousands of Americans, and everybody knew about this, and yet they did not want an epidemic except for the United States Constitution. They wrote the Constitution for hard times. - What a bunch of losers! - Enterators, insurrectionists losers! - Traders, losers losers! - How many bearing cup did you eat today? - This fat woman's name is Patricia. She's a commission. She was an elected representative of D.C. She actually shows up at the D.C. vigil all the time. They're not sending her back. - Their lovely thing is insurrectionists losers, losers, traitors. - Yep, they're just like, so, yeah. - Hey Patricia, you're an elected representative for D.C. right? (cheering) (indistinct chatter) - Is the traitor! - Patricia, what's your last name? - Trump, is the traitor! - Patricia! - Trump is the traitor! - It's Spike's name. - Glory! - Commissioner. - Glory! - I thought you're not commissioner anymore, Patricia. - Bar? - I'm still commissioner of these things. - Oh, you're still commissioner? (laughing) - I thought you guys liked me. - Still commissioner, okay. - I thought you guys liked me. - Commissioner, you're producing people? - Wow, they are not sending their back. - I thought you guys liked me, Kate, what's wrong? - We do, we like throwing people exactly not crazy shit at the wall. (indistinct chatter) (indistinct chatter) (indistinct chatter) (indistinct chatter) (indistinct chatter) (indistinct chatter) - R.S.K. is the loser! (laughing) - Brittany, Patricia Aguino. That's her name, commissioner of DC. They shifted, close, all of the stories. (indistinct chatter) - What? - Walls work. (indistinct chatter) (indistinct chatter) - Is that really necessary, man? (indistinct chatter) (indistinct chatter) (indistinct chatter) - No, please, no, please, I was just joking. (indistinct chatter) - We're here out, we're here at the edge of the right. (indistinct chatter) - Okay, we'll do that. (indistinct chatter) - Okay, bring it back further. (indistinct chatter) - I don't know. (indistinct chatter) We are, we are here at the, on the edge. (indistinct chatter) Where, where there's the massive protest, the anti-Kennedy protest going on out there. (indistinct chatter) There's a traitor and Kennedy has brainworms. - Hey, it's got him in LSD. - That's the information that we've been given so far. (indistinct chatter) - This has been eight dissident media production. (indistinct chatter) ♪ Welcome to the system ♪ ♪ Everyone's a victim ♪ ♪ Doesn't matter ♪ ♪ If you're black or white ♪ ♪ I hate you all ♪ ♪ Here is how the system ♪ ♪ Violence is a symptom ♪ ♪ Fighting for what's right ♪ ♪ But somehow everyone is wrong ♪ [BLANK_AUDIO]
