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Beltway Blitz, Who Doesn't Love Jayden Daniels At This Point?

10.2.24 Hour 3

1:00- MLB- Britt Ghiroli, NFL- Nick Ashooh, Commanders- Liam Griffin

18:30- Jayden Daniels is beloved by quite literally everyone around football... but is it too fast to crown him king?

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02 Oct 2024
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What are they going to do to get going today in their game against the Royals? Well, hitting would be nice. I mean, it didn't go a single run yesterday in that game. And obviously Cole Reagan pitched very well. But this area of lineup guys for the last, really since July, has been incredibly inconsistent. So while it was something that fans have seen before, I think it was jarring to watch all of their young core, all of their young hitters, not being able to produce. So that really to me is going to be step one. So they've got to get on Seth Luco early and restore a little bit of their swagger, get a little confidence, get the momentum back. Because as you said, 10 years since they want to play off game. Yeah, they need that in a time machine to prevent some of the injuries that have knocked them around too, Britt. I hate saying this more than you could possibly imagine because I mean, you're an adult. I'm an irrational pudgy child that mass grades is a grown up. There's shades of 2019 nationals with the Mets. Like every time you think it's over, they make it not over. Like they keep getting up off the mat. They've got this great momentum. Some of the guys are going to be leaving that team. They've been red hot. I'm telling you, there's some sort of vibe here. I'm hoping that's a reverse jinx and they get blown out the next two games by Milwaukee. But it seems like you can't keep this group down. No, you're right. I mean, them and the Tigers to me are two of the scarier teams right now because both of them are playing with that kind of scary momentum where they have no business winning these games that they're winning. And that's a great example. I mean, everything that happened for them to get to that point, playing in that double header, using so many pitchers, not getting in till the end and then flying to Milwaukee where Milwaukee, you know, they did score early. They did go up and the Mets just didn't care. So they to me are incredibly dangerous team and they're set up pretty well now guys. That would be as, you know, didn't pitch in that first game. So he would be available tonight. But I'm Sean Maniah has probably been their most consistent starter getting six innings in game one at least Severino was a huge boon for them. And I think we've seen this time and time again with Milwaukee. The problem is not the pitching. The problem is their offense. You know, a four run deficit felt like the game was over and obviously it ended up being over. Brick, how do you feel about this format overall? I'm going to do the thing I hate where I kind of complain without a better solution. But the teams that are really good sit around for six days without playing baseball, which is not a help. It's actually been proven to be more of a hurt. And I know that you got to do something to get the teams that make it on the back end have to go through a bit of a murderous road to see them. But I don't know how to do both and make it work for everyone. Where are you at on this format? Yeah, I agree. I don't love it. And you know, you can complain about the wildcard too, because when it was a winter take all, it was a total flood of the coin. And even in a three game series, the team that wins game one guys has won the series 14 of 16 times. So, you know, it really isn't that indicative of who is better, right? I don't know if there is a good solution other than maybe going back to the format where there was less playoff teams, and that's not going to happen because of the money that it creates for the league and the interest it creates for so many fanbases. I mean, we talked about the Tigers and that and what they're doing. Those teams wouldn't be in it if we hadn't expanded the field so much. So I think you, you know, you look at the problems that they have and there has to be a better solution because I agree. If I was a fan of a team sitting around for six days, I'd be nervous playing a hot team that came in and no business going quenching the playoffs quenched on the last day. And then all of a sudden, now you're playing them and they feel unstoppable. I mean, the Texas ranchers did the same thing last year. They ended on the road, a wildcard team and they won the World Series. So I think there has to be a way to incentivize winning the division more because right now there is no incentive in the mindset for most of these teams is simply get in, which is fine. But again, if you're going to win the division, there should be a little bit more than hey, you got a couple of days rest and oh, you get to be flat-footed and face the team that's been red hot for two weeks. Brit points in a field call your shot. Who comes out of the AL and NL and who wins the whole thing? Oh, this is really tough. So I think the NL, I think the Padres come out of the NL. I think that they're red hot. I do think that they are probably the best team in the national league. Certainly the deepest team. I know they got to go through the Dodgers if they end up winning against the Braves, but I'm going to go with them. See, I know to me is a little bit murkier. I think the Yankees have the ability to do it. But if Kansas City wins this game tonight, guys, they're dangerous because they can pitch. They can play defense and they remind me a little bit of the 2014-2015 royal teams that, of course, the 15 team won the World Series. So I'm going to go Yankees Padres. I'm going to go Padres over the Yankees. But again, I think if there are certainly some dark horses here and I would definitely watch these hotter teams, the Royals, the Tigers, the Mets, these are the teams that could create total chaos that everyone's playoff rack up. Great. Thank you. We appreciate you. All right, guys. Take care. Thanks, Brett. Enjoy the day of baseball. Let's talk football. Nick Ashu bet QL to do just that. Nick, the Chiefs are weird to me. I keep thinking they come back to the pack more and more every year. They look more and more pedestrian. They don't blow anybody out, but they just never lose. They're four and oh, how good are they? There's a lot of other talent besides, you know, these top receivers that they're going to be missing now, or I mean, Hollywood Brown missing is like kind of doesn't matter because the night he's actually played for me in the regular season. But, you know, when you look at them, they have Patrick Mahomes. And I just learned at this point, I just don't bet against the Chiefs. I don't count the Chiefs out ever because we were in this position last year, right? We looked at that receiving core and said, oh, my God, they're terrible. They're a bunch of walking brain parts out there. They can't even line up on side. And yet they want a Super Bowl. So to me, even whether they're in on Devontae Adams or they're not in on Devontae Adams, it doesn't really matter because Patrick Mahomes is an elite quarterback. And elite quarterbacks find ways to make everybody around them better. Then, of course, I know Kansas City will be a top everybody's power rankings because, you know, they're the defending champion. Choose somebody who knocks them off. We stood the defending champs and everyone has to like write that sentence and maybe throw up a little bit while they do. But right now this minute, who is the best team in the NFL? And your answer could be Kansas City because that same logic, but who's the best team in the league? You know, I would have said Kansas City before all of the injuries and, you know, losing her she rise and some of the other stuff's going on. But it's hard for me to do that given the current roster. That's just going to be out there. This may sound crazy to you guys. I don't know how you feel about the Vikings, but they're four and oh, and they look really good. I mean, it's crazy to say this with Sam Darnold as the starting quarterback. But, you know, he looks like somebody now that is what we thought he would be when he got drafted by the Jets, right? Let's give Kevin O'Connell credit. I mean, we talk about all these offensive-minded coaches and these offensive geniuses. Well, right now I'm looking to Miami and they're supposed to have an offensive genius as a head coach there. And I mean, they can't even get the Von H and the ball at all. So like really, we're looking at Kevin O'Connell in Minnesota. The defense is already there. There are 28 nothing in Green Bay. Now they did blow almost blow that lead. So that is a little bit of a problem. But they're four and oh, and they've got the best wide receiver in the NFL. And Sam Darnold looks like a pro-boller right now. If you were to pick a one-win team, so in the AFC, that could be the Bengals, Dolphins, Browns, and the NFC. That could be the Rams or the Cardinals, I guess, perhaps, maybe the Giants. That you would say gets off the mat makes the playoffs. Who would you roll with? I mean, I got to go with the Bengals because they're like every year, right? Every single season they dig themselves and 0-2-hole or 1-3-star or whatever the case is. So just by the fact that they've been in playoff mode early in the season every single year and have the experience, I would have to go Cincinnati. But manner, they've been a tough watch at the beginning of this season. So I said, right, it's tough when you sit there and look at teams that are at least bad to start off the first quarter of the season and try to find a way that they're going to look good. What's going to make you more confident in them? But I'll go with the team with experience. Give me a sensey. Nick, you know this guy, this absolute buffoon, this idiot who sits across from Grant Paulson every day from 2-6-30 post from right in a 1-6-7 the fan. This moron sat there and told America that the Jets would win the AFCs that Buffalo will come back to the pack. And because they finally got some semblance of quarterback play, this team is really well, blah, blah, blah. I can't get over what my eyes saw against Denver. I know it's one game and maybe they're worst game of the year and maybe they're going to play well. I'm so mad at that guy for saying that. Don't forget it was Tanner Rainey as well. I was about, yeah, yeah, but that's, but still, I'd be gross. And now Garrett Wilson's like, I don't move around ever. Should I move around at all? Does that matter? Like they're gross. I hate them and I'm mad at Danny. All right, listen, first off, don't beat yourself up. There's a lot of people that were on the Jets fan wagon. I was with you and then you're counting out the bills, honestly. I wouldn't say this. It wasn't counting out. It was more of just what is their offense going to look like with all these new receivers? And Khalil Shakir is kind of turning out to be the number one receiver there. He's really getting a lot of the opportunities. And listen, for the bills, it comes down to Josh Allen carrying this team. Josh Allen will win MVP if this team wins the division because it's going to have to be an MVP season from Josh Allen for them. But listen, the Jets have some talent. If you know what it is, the Jets are still going to jet one way or the other. They're going to jet. If you even watched any of that game against Denver, good for you. Because that was one of those like, OK, I'm going to just go a different direction here. If it shows up on Red Zone, that's the only way I'm going to see it though. It was impossible because nobody was near the Red Zone. It felt like that entire game. The Jets are a team that has some talent, but you know what's going to end up happening. We're already hearing it from Aaron Rodgers. He's not happy. He knows he's above most of the people there because he's a multi-time MVP and won a Super Bowl. And he's looking at Robert Solico. And who is this clown? It has the feeling of something that's going to implode because personalities and egos always make something like that explode. Nicholas, tomorrow night, Thursday night football. This actually feels like a big game early in the season, especially for Atlanta at home. So it's the Bucks and the Falcons. Tampa's three and one, they had a terrible loss to the aforementioned Broncos, but it does feel like they are one of the better teams in the NFC. Meanwhile, Atlanta had a squeaker of a loss to Kansas City on an awkward call. They had a completely awful, gross performance against the Steelers. It just feels like three and two versus two and three for them. If they'd be two and oh in the division with their only two losses out of conference, would actually be a pretty solid start. Quarterback coming off an injury, new head coach, new coordinator. What do you make of that game tomorrow night? I think for one, if it's Atlanta, we're seeing improvement from Kirk Cousins every week. I mean, he's starting to look a little more comfortable, that offense moving a little bit better though. But we know he's not like an overly mobile quarterback, but you're starting to see the Falcons at least become a team that can work with what Kirk Cousins is at this point in his career, right? Whatever that ends up being coming off of a torn Achilles. What concerns me about Atlanta though, the last two weeks, we've seen nothing from Bijon Robinson. I mean, at all. And the whole point was where he more is talking about getting in the ball in the first two weeks of the season, we saw it in the last two weeks, more Tyler Algier, less Bijon Robinson. And they're going to need to get more out of Bijon if they want to be able to beat a team like Tampa. Tampa's awesome. I mean, honestly, like Tampa continuing to do what they're doing offensively now without Dave Canallis there anymore is the offensive coordinator is great. Because honestly, we thought like his Baker Mayfield going to come back to Earth with the Dave Canallis and the magic that he was able to bring on him. Just like a Deccino Smith. The reality of it is they haven't really missed a beat. Chris Godwin's gotten even better. He's already got three touchdowns this year, 322 yards receiving. I mean, he's great out of the slot, especially when Mike Evans is getting all the attention he's getting. So I like Tampa tomorrow in that game, even though it is in Atlanta, but I am seeing an Atlanta team that definitely growing. It just feels like Tampa is a little bit more established with everything right now and kind of in a rhythm versus Atlanta's trending upward right now. Thank you very handsome. Thank you, buddy. Love you guys. Love you too. In that way hit the local 53 sounder. Please, Darris. Our guy, Liam Griffin. He covers that Washington foosball team with the Washington Times. Liam, I had no idea it would be this much fun at this stage. What's it been like here just through a month or so covering this club that's kind of superseded almost everybody's expectations? Well, I'll tell you, this is my first season covering the team and I also had no idea that it was going to be this fun to do it. The vibes are fantastic building in the locker room. Everyone's cheering. You know, when they gave Cliff Kingsbury the game ball on Sunday night, we weren't in the locker room yet, but we could hear them from outside, you know, 20, 30 feet away because of this eruption of applause. The vibes are just great in the building. The energy is electric really right now. You mentioned Cliff Kingsbury. What's he doing so well? So he's playing it with the strength of this offense. So Dan Quinn was talking about it today and that he works with what Jayden Daniels felt comfortable doing. And that's so important for a young quarterback, especially early on in his career. Everybody hears everybody talks about the speed of the NFL game. There's that adjustment period. But by bringing some of these schemes that worked so well for him at LSU, bringing them up to the professionals with him, but they would have eased him in a little bit longer. And obviously Jane Daniels is encouraged to use his legs as well. So Cliff Kingsbury has not tried to reinvent the wheel really in the first four weeks of the season and just allowed Jane Daniels to shine. What's going to get taken away? In other words, going back over the years, Liam, looking at Cliff Kingsbury's offenses, they've started off great a couple different times and then really faded down the stretch, whether as his players faded, whether it's scheme adjustments from the opponents. I have no idea. I'm not a football doctor, but it has happened. So what could you see defenses going? You know what, that's not going to be this. We're going to make them do something else. Well, what I could see is defenses putting more pressure close to the line of scrimmage and that this offense right now is heavily focused on these quick hitters on a third down. You'll see Jane Daniels throw us feet out, you know, get that first down, get five or six yards keeps a change moving. You'll see early on in the drives. You'll see a bubble screen to get started. I think true media has this dive right now about the commanders leaving the lead in the number of screenplays calls right now and letting their ball handle is good to ball in space, trying to make a play. So the C team is trying to take that away. But then the issue with that is, okay, let's say you're going to call man coverage as a defense, put your best corners on the commander's best receivers. Now you have a bunch of people with their backs to Jane Daniels and he has the legs. He has the athleticism and the scrambling ability to make a defense pay for that. And so I do think the defenses will start to adjust to the offenses that Cliff King is calling. But Jane Daniels is such a talented player and has such a multifaceted game that I think can be hard for them to truly adapt. Liam, we're at a point where it's almost like every national analyst is competing with each other to prove who likes Jane Daniels the most. There was a guy on ESPN yesterday, one of their analysts who said he's the best quarterback in the NFC right now. Already nine days ago, they were one in one with a fairly unimpressive win against the Giants. Are we getting too excited too fast or is this reaction just right? I think it's hard to say that the Washington commander's fan base can get excited about anything too fast because of how hard it has been to be a fan of this franchise for so long. But I would just caution people to understand that not every game is going to be perfect. Look at Patrick Mahomes, he is one of the best quarterbacks of his generation, of any generation really. And even he struggles on occasion. There's some stinkers in there. And you have to understand that Jane Daniels as good as he is. And I think he is well on his way to being the quarterback of the future for the team. There are going to be some rough patches in there. They will come eventually and to just handle those with the poise, I would say. Liam, thank you as always, man. Have a good one. Of course you too. Liam Griffin, Washington Times, covers the commanders at five o'clock in 40 minutes. We've got Deaf Tones tickets we're going to give out someone listening is going to win those. So you better be locked in. We'll also blitz the east. But next I want to dive in on the hype train right now and the love for Jaden Daniels and this offense and the commanders, which is a long time coming and really exciting. Is it too much too fast or is it just right? We're granting Danny. Hey NFL fans, you can start the season with a big return on FanDul, America's number one sportsbook. So when you get a hunch in the middle of the game, you can check out the latest stats, view live play by play and so much more on the same page where you place your bets. You'll get started with $200 in bonus bets guaranteed when you place your first $5 bet. That's fandul.com/sportsfan. Never waste a hunch and make every moment more with FanDul, an official sportsbook partner of the NFL. Must be 21 plus and present in Colorado. First online real moneyweights are only $10 first deposit required. Bonus issue does now withdrawable bonus bets that expire seven days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fandul.com, gambling problem, call 1-800-522-4700. Keep improving. Find a little ways to keep growing. At your rookie quarterback who doesn't play like a rookie, Jaden Daniels, welcome back to Grant and Danny on the fan yesterday. I found myself just clicking from one story after another from the national people with little anecdotes on Washington. I found myself looking online, Twitter and otherwise on the apps. One breakdown of another. This guy studied the film of Jaden Daniels. This former quarterback said this. This former player said that his approval rating right now. Danny, I think it's the highest of any player I've ever seen. It might be. I mean, he is so popular and so beloved. It was a competition yesterday of analysts just to say, who can be the most high on the commander's offense? Let's have an effusive contest. Who's going to say the nicest thing about Jaden Daniels today? And everyone was fighting, you know, scratching, clawing, fighting on themselves to get to the flag basically to be the one that said the biggest hottest take about Jaden Daniels. Like he should be in the whole of him right now. And then how do you top that? The number one greatest rookie in any sport anywhere ever at any time. So my first thing I would say is I'm thoroughly enjoying all of the coverage. We don't get this around here. It's nice. And maybe we could just end it there. Maybe we just put a period on that sentence and we move on to something else. But there's also this part of me that goes, is it a little fast and I don't mean specific to Daniels because we're talking about his first four games that have been historic and amazing and we have context. We can contextualize against all the other rookies and he's just a part of an offense that's been better. His performance in a lot of ways has been more efficient, whatever. No problem with that. It's the heaping of the praise that's it's as if like they've arrived or this is what it's always going to be or this is who he is or they are. That makes me a little bit nervous. Call me crazy as someone who's seen the rug get pulled out from under you and just knows that there. This isn't linear. This is a week by week kind of league. It's a match up by match up league. How should I feel about this? How should we feel about this? And we can open up the phones at 800-636-1067, MGM National Harbor listener lines 800-636-1067. I mean, the love for Washington, for Kingsbury, for Daniels is a good thing. But it's gotten to a point where it's like so ubiquitous now that it almost feels like it's a little too much too soon. So one of the hallmarks I think of doing this job that you and I have found. I don't want to speak for you, but I know we've shared this sentiment in the past is oftentimes it's validating to feel like you're doing a good job if you find yourself arguing against that extreme and then that extreme on opposite ends of the spectrum, right? So there's in this case, for example, there aren't that many right now, but bear with me. On one side, he's so overrated. He's not that good. He's just checking it down. He's just throwing screen passes. You guys don't know what you're talking about. He stinks. They're going to suck. Okay. Then the other side is he's the greatest of all time. This is perfect. They're going, you know, 14 and three and they're one of the super bowl this year being a little bit more in the middle. The bar from Jim Zor, a little more staying medium, a little bit more in the middle. You end up arguing. That's both extremes. There's a lot of issues there that that happen when it especially when it comes up in terms of sports. You and I are bigger sample guys. We like, you know, a whole bunch of data before we start declaring anything solved or done or a mistake or good or bad or anything in between. So I think that's normal and natural that there's a balance here between going for me. This is already so much better than I thought it would be. I did not think I'd have a game where they scored 42 points this year. I sure as bleak didn't think it'd be after a game where they didn't put in score 38 points. I didn't think I'd see that in the, in the year of our law 2024. I just saw it over the span of eight days, wherever the hell it is, right? So you're allowed to be having fun. You're allowed to be excited. You're allowed to then say, well, if we did that, I wonder what the next thing is. I wonder what else we could do. That's normal. That's sports. That's why we get up in the morning. That's why we do this crap. You know what I mean? It's why we opt in to this crazy, weird, bizarre dance of a bunch of people wearing the same laundry, trying to matriculate a ball down the field. It's because that hope and that excitement and that lightning strike that maybe it's your time to see something truly special because we've seen a little bit of it already through a couple of weeks. At the same time you could spin that other plate and go, yeah, it's, we really are talking about a calendar week of two good games that changed the entire perception of everything. Maybe we should pump the brakes a little bit. Maybe we should just wait a second before we start crowning and coordinating and fitting gold jackets and a lot of other things. I think it's okay to think both things and sort of blend those into one approach where we're going. All I know right now is that I'm having fun. I can't wait to see what's next. I don't think that's crazy. Yeah. I guess where I'm at is I am super optimistic and hopeful and he has blown me away and my expectations have completely been exceeded like all of those things are true. But when I hear, I'm trying to think of who the analyst was on ESPN. I think it was, who's the, who's the guy they call swag who? Marcus Spears. Marcus Spears. I think it was him yesterday said he's the best quarterback in the NFC. Rich Eisen. Yeah. I think it was yesterday. It may have been two days ago said something to the effect of the quarterbacks he would take right now moving forward over Jaden Daniels where Patrick Mahomes, CJ Stroud and he may have had Josh Allen on the list. I don't even think hopefully did, but he's like a, and then Jaden Daniels and I'm like, this is awesome to hear about my guy. But it's been 144 hours of really good football, like this was not a month where they just couldn't do anything wrong offensively. This has really been two awesome games that we're talking about. People forget the Tampa Bay game was a scramble fest. That was a passing game that at best was ineffective and at worst was just bad. But again, it was the first game. I don't mean for him. I mean, for the whole offense, like I'm not holding it against them. It's the only time they've looked like that. The Giants game in week two was a tale of two halves. The first half, they got sacked four times. They had some issues getting the ball out. Everything was at the line of scrimmage or behind. And then in the second half, it's like the switch flipped. He was incredible. They pushed the ball down the field, hit the throw, the Noah Brown did some really, really good things. So that half of the Giants game and then two games, but like, think about the difference in just the overall narrative about the team, about Kingsbury, about the offense, about Daniels from three hours before the Bengals game to an hour after the Cardinals game. And this is what happens. This is how the coverage works in the 24/7 platform world now. The medium that we're in, where everyone's just rushing to the take, they're rushing to the judgment. And I'm really happy and he's been really, really good. And the offense is awesome and Cliff Kingsbury's killing it just like you did in Arizona in the first half of almost every single season, by the way. But I guess that's the point I come back to. It's not meant to be cold, moderate. I'm asking a question more than I'm making a point. I really am. I'm just saying, is it too much too soon at all or should we not worry about that and just have fun because we deserve it and it's been a long time coming. It's less though, four games that are just above reproach, it's more 144 hours of football. You know, well, actually six hours of football in 144 hours span. It was 8,640 minutes from Monday to Sunday. That's what we're talking about here and the whole world seems to have changed. This was Liam Griffin when we asked him if we should feel good about all of the coverage or if we should be asking, is it too much too soon? I think it's hard to say that the Washington commander's fan base can get excited about anything too fast because of how hard it has been to be a fan of this franchise for so long. But I would just caution people to understand that not every game is going to be perfect. Look at Patrick Mahomes. He is one of the best quarterbacks of his generation, of any generation really, and even he struggles on occasion. There's some stinkers in there and you have to understand that Jane Daniels as good as he is, and I think he is well on his way to being the quarterback of the future for the team, there are going to be some rough patches in there. They will come eventually and to just handle those with the poise, I would say. And I have confidence he will. That's who he is. Right? I mean, the diversity that's been thrown at him previously, he has come through with fine colors and not just in terms of performance, but in terms of that, that word that gets banded about with him a lot. Yeah, the athletic traits are off the charts and, you know, the accuracy and all the skills and attributes we've seen have them come through. What poise? That's the thing to me that's more, that's the most impressive about him, and it's easy to say, right? It's easy to read a book on what to do and how to react, but it's got to be genuine. Otherwise guys see through it. You can't fake rah, rah, or fake relax or whatever. Guys realize that after a while, and then whether it's conscious or subconscious, don't follow anymore. It seems to be the genuine article again, this is super early, but those are the reports and it sort of seems to be validated here to this point. But I don't think it's too early to be things like hopeful. I don't think it's too early to be blown away. I don't think it's too early to have realistic expectations that we might have something better than we've had here in decades because there's a really low bar. Like if we're in Green Bay and these are the early returns I'll go, I'll wait for a much larger sample to see if he's this Hall of Famer who handed it off to this Hall of Famer who may be the next guy, right? I've got a pretty high bar to clear. Two of the 10 greatest to ever do it. I don't have that here. I got a lot of Heath Schuller and John Fries. I got way more Tony Banks in my memory bank than I do Hall of Fame caliber quarterback. So I'm going, yeah, let's let's dream big. I'm just saying some of the rhetoric maybe feels like it's just too quick, too fast for me, which I get. I get that. And maybe that's just my own proclivity and style of saying like we don't have to say the hot crazy thing immediately. I'm I've found the list here. He said, he was asked, who would you want as a franchise quarterback over Jaden Daniels? I'm going to send you this audio real quick, Dares. We can play this and he gave a list of like five names. Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Joe burrow, CJ, Stroud, Patrick, my homes. Now clearly you're taking into account age maybe for this or like upside, but based on the Bengals Monday night game and the Arizona game. It's basically what we're talking about. I mean, if you were really, really blown away, I guess by the second half of the Giants game, you could throw that in there. You're just in Sharpie. You're taking him over. Jordan Love, Justin Herbert. I don't know. I'm not a big jail and hurt sky, but he was an MVP candidate two years ago or in a Brock Purdy, maybe he looks like the last couple of weeks. If this is who he is, then hell yeah. But there's so many great two week stretches. We got, I think we just got to wait and see. That's all I'm saying. It just seems aggressive. It seems quick to just make the decision now and put it in pen. That's all. Yeah, which I think is fair, but it's also a very strange time of quarterbacking, by the way. Three years ago, when there was the super greats, the Brady's and Manning's, then that like 1A tier of Drew Brees and company that were waning in their careers. And we're kind of going, who's next? Where's the next class? Well, all of a sudden, there are three tiers of quarterback right now, just in terms of age and experience. There's the like super aging veteran Aaron Rodgers. There's the in their prime 30 year old type guys, the homes, burrow type group. And then there's kids. So like, it's actually not that crazy to say you take him over a lot of people, because a lot of them are super veterans or journeymen, you know, the same donals in the world. I have to hear the like the context of how much of it is like for the rest of their careers for the next 10 years or whatever, like this week, but yeah, but but again, two weeks is all you needed to see. That's it. You needed to see two really good games and now he's fifth in the league and number one in the conference. It's just, I don't know. I guess that's the world we live in 800 six, three, six, one oh six, seven is the number Grant and Danny on the fan. a lot of people. I think that's the world we live in. I think that's the world we live in. I think that's the world we live in. I think that's the world we live in. I think that's the world we live in. I think that's the world we live in. I think that's the world we live in. I think that's the world we live in. I think that's the world we live in. I think that's the world we live in. I think that's the world we live in. I think that's the world we live in. I think that's the world we live in. I think that's the world we live in. I think that's the world we live in. I think that's the world we live in. I think that's the world we live in. I think that's the world we live in. He's Danny. I'm Grant. This is the fan. The praise for the commanders after four weeks has been hot and heavy. The national media has fallen in love with our young quarterback, yesterday, which quarterbacks in the league right now would you rather have than Jaden Daniels? I would rather. I think it's a very small list. Lamar Allen. Burrow. Right now? Burrows turned it on to last three games, sir. They have one win. And Stroud would be in that mix. Mahomes, obviously. Mahomes. It's about it. I'm going to, I mean, Donald is amazing, but I understand what you're saying there. I mean, you're talking about long term as well, maybe. You're talking as of right now at 938 today is what you're saying. Which quarterbacks would you rather have as your franchise QB than Jaden Daniels? The list is very small. That's why I said it looks like the commanders have hit the jackpot at the quarterback draft. I agree with the last part, but I don't know who quarterback wins guy was who was making the list with him, whoever that guy was burrow over over Jaden Daniels. Joe Burrow, the pre-el MVP candidate. His team's only won one game. That's just crazy. Talk to me. How does anyone enjoy this content? I just don't understand. Yeah. It's just not for me. Right. But I will say just again, you start to go down the list of quarterbacks. I know this isn't the point of the segment, but when you're you're looking at the, you know, Smith, Dak Prescott, um, I don't know, Sam Darnell, Jared Goff, Matthew Stafford. It's not outrageous to say. I'd like the number two of all draft pick who's showing well early, but, but if the question is, yeah, by the way, was not like, who do you want for 10 years? He kind of got around to that. He just said, who would you rather have as your quarterback right now? And all I'm saying is let's say Jaden Daniels is seven on the list, 11 on the list, 13 on the list, whatever. Everyone's is going to be different. That's fine. This is basically based on 10 days and that's all it takes to rewrite everything. Everyone's lists. I mean, that's a little staggering. And that's, and that's kind of the point here. So what we're getting into is a bit of this was my evaluation. And now it's being confirmed and now we rush to this, you know, a giant rave party where everybody's overvalued. Thanks. I should clarify. I am a big rich eyes and gun. I love his show. I just don't know who the other person was. And I, I, I will. They have one win. Let's go to Vitz and McLean on GND. What's up, Vince? Hey, guys. I love the conversation. Appreciate you. No question. Yeah. I just wanted to point something out to you guys. I had a quick question for you. The Jane Daniel sample set is arguably small to both your points, I think, but, but obviously off to a great start. But I also think we're in a bit of an echo chamber with how successful he's been and all the analysts on television kind of trying to outdo each other, talking about how great he is. And you have to remind yourself, there have been relatively similar amazing starts by quarterbacks in recent memory. If you think about what Kim Newton did with the Carolina Panthers, I think you rush for 21 TDs or pass for 21 TDs and rush for 14 more. Andrew Lug at a very hot start, even Justin Herbert, passed for the most yards of rookies ever passed, or passed for in an hour over a key season. So we've seen some amazing starts to, to season by rookie NFL quarterbacks and all those guys are great in their own right. But to your right, to your point, they're talking about our quarterback as if he's already in the Hall of Fame. So I think there's a little bit of tempering expectations to get a larger sample set to see where he kind of settles in in that broader group. And he may still be in that top 10 rookie class of all time. But my question for you guys is, how much of this is Jayden Daniels as the, as most of the media make you believe, like he's, you know, he's amazing versus how much credit do we start giving Cliff Kingsbury and what he's been able to develop around him to make his job maybe a little bit easier to help him adapt to the NFL. Yeah. I think both are true. 100% the call. I think a Daniels has been fantastic and a lot of the things that he has done and is good at are things that are abnormal for a young guy. His maturity, his leadership, his calm, his poise, making the right decision, not forcing the football, taking what's there. These are lessons that sometimes can take years, right? Cousins, it wasn't until he got benched in his, you know, second year getting to play or whatever before he finally said, all right, I just got to take the five yard throw. I can't keep trying to force the ball and throw all the picks. Like it takes time to learn these things that he seems to have already figured out. Having said that are, are they running in offense where they're, they're expected completion percentage is the highest in the NFL at 74% because 74% percent of their throws are easy throws. Yes. Are they running in offense? Like Cam Taylor Brit said that resembles a lot of things Jayden Daniels was asked to do in LSU. Sure. I mean, there are people suggesting like, Hey, you only have to read this guy or this thing. It's called good coaching, by the way. Like these are used as these negatives or how dare you or why would you take credit away from someone or that's a pejorative? No, Daniels has done an amazing job and looks awesome and is the real deal hopefully. And also Cliff Kingsbury is doing exactly what he should be doing and deserves a lot of credit for it. Yeah, I would challenge you throughout history to find me a, I'm not putting Daniel. So yeah, but bear with me, a high level Hall of Fame caliber quarterback that's putting up great numbers with that a really good offensive mind there. Yeah, I'll wait. I'll wait for the pairing that you can figure out where a guy was a bumbling boob who couldn't do anything right. And a quarterback every year was putting up MVP type numbers. You can go back wherever, whenever you want everyone from, from Bill Walsh to Mike Holmgren to, you know, name that Hall of Fame quarterback. You had a pretty good offensive mind there as well is either a compliment or a guy that was accentuating the positive or working with him, being on the same page. That's not negative. That's part of it. I think that's part of the conversation. Yeah, totally. Yeah, I think as the weeks go on and we get to watch more and more, we're going to find out like you, I don't, how can I or anyone else answer the question? How much is Cliff? How much is Jayden Daniels? When they're not ahead of the sticks constantly, when they're not one of the best teams on first and 10, when they're not averaging third and short, when they aren't not turning the ball over and never committing penalties, then we're going to get a little bit more of a tell. But the national media doesn't know all of those things. They just see a quarterback who's a amazing athlete who won the highest minute, was a number two overall pick, who's a dual threat, was playing his ass off. And as you said, it's kind of a superlative fest. It's like a who can say the best thing, lose in DC. What's up, Lou? What's going on, fellas? Hey, guys. Good man. Good man. To me, I'm not buying the hype, especially the media from the outside media because we've seen what's been going on here for the past 20-something years. So I'm here just for enjoying the moment every weekend and just watching him and putting on the show every Sunday and toying around with this defense. And that's what I'm here for and I'm not listening to those guys. I'm just happy to see him and happy to have a franchise quarterback that it's something that we don't have for long time and I'm just soaking it in and soaking it in. It looks like in this town, we finally have the guy, right? And that is a really, really good thing. The rest of it can wait for now. He's the best in the conference. You can miss me with that at this point. There are three quarterbacks I'd rather have in the league at this moment. All that stuff to me is just too soon and silly and outrageous. By my view, based on like two and a half pretty unbelievable games, for me, it just takes longer, but everyone's going to feel differently in that regard, I think. But the more he is this, the more they play like this, the more that becomes what it is. And it becomes less silly to have that conversation. The CJ Stroud thing though, if three weeks, four weeks in the last season, people started saying about CJ Stroud, this is the top five quarterback in the NFL. This is the best quarterback in the AFC, whatever the conversation was, I would have said, God, that seems really, really. It's going out a little. You know what? I don't say that about anymore. CJ Stroud, because I saw it for a whole year, I saw it in a playoff game. I've seen it now for a month to start another season. It's just a sample size thing, but don't get me wrong. It's good. 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