FM Talk 1065 Podcasts
Jeff Poor Show - Wednesday 10-02-24
(upbeat music) From Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach, at all points in between, an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Porshow. ♪ I don't think hang down in this way ♪ ♪ No ♪ - Good morning, and welcome to the Jeff Porshow and if we talk about '06, '05. H&B with us on this Wednesday morning. We do appreciate it. Next slide in two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, that is how you get in touch with the program if you so desire. Coming up on today's program, Jerry Carl here in about 30 minutes. He'll be with us. And also in the program, Joey Clark. We do that every Wednesday. And we'll wrap it all up with, I know, Parker Griffith, the official Democrat response of the Jeff Porshow, but he'll kill, wait time for us at the bottom of the 11 o'clock hour. So we got a long way to go and a short time to get there. Is that, anyway. So that's coming up at the 11 o'clock hour. Let's go and kick it off here. Everybody's wanting to know debate last night. Vice Presidential debate. I didn't think, Tim Walts started out real slow and expectations were already like just ground down real, real low. I don't think he did a terrible job compared to Kamala Harris. I felt like he was way better prepared. Now, I mean, his answers were belowity, but I mean, we were gonna think that no matter who was up there on the stage as the Democrat or the Vice Presidential nominee for the Democratic Party. It was always gonna be a global warming, January 6th, an abortion, right? And can we just say this? This has to stop. The Republicans cannot do these debates with these like mainstream media, doctrinated Columbia journalism, school grads, and just know they looked, Margaret Brennan and Nora O'Donnell, are there two more unlikable human beings in TV news right now? It was like mean girls or something. Oh, it's like camp counselors. Camp counselors, like very condescending to the campers. I didn't think there was just a vibe that was very off-putting. What's the movie with Matthew Broderick, the Tracy Flick one? The school's apple polishers. Well, whatever, I just, Republicans have to stop doing these debates with these types of personalities. It's all gotta, and this is what it's gotta be from here on out. And if a Republican does not, it allows anything other than this, that they just, they had to say no. That's to be what Jake Tapper, databash did in June with Joe Biden. And maybe that was some home cooking there. Maybe they were sitting Biden up to be exiled from the Democratic Party, whatever, from the presidential race. But Republicans can just cannot do this anymore. There isn't now granted JD Vance handled it well, but we're never going to get past this asymmetrical battlefield. If they keep agreeing, it's keep enabling these types of media outlets to do this. This has got to stop. Don't give them the benefit of having their logo. I don't understand it. I don't know why you would agree to it anymore, because they acted bad faith. Either it's bad faith or they're so indoctrinated with their worldview. You know, when you have a set of terms to a debate and you violate the old terms of the debate, you gotta be punished. Yeah, so they could make an agreement with the media outlet and put some rules in place for the moderators. But the moderators had to follow the rules. The media outlet has to follow the rules. And they didn't do that last night. So Republicans got to get a learn from this in future cycles, not to not to participate to cut them off. Like they like the left cuts off Fox News. This is what they got to do. Maybe they have to do this in the future. Then it has to be like a like a partnership between media outlets. You had to take like Brett Bear and I don't know who's the least offensive on CNN these days, and they had to be the moderators. But this CBS stuff and especially after ABC, probably it's got that little lesson here and not deal with this anymore. So it's just stake. These presidential elections are big, big deals. And you cannot have the media putting their thumb on the scale the way they do every single cycle. Or they're going to do it anyway, which Republicans can't enable them. Two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six. Vance, obviously the the superior debater had the best debate effort. Didn't get rattled. I didn't like his answers on January 6 or abortion. But what are you going to do? Everything else was pretty much all you could ask for from a Republican candidate. Tim loss was a struggle. He, I mean, just the Tiananmen Square and the knucklehead thing. It was not something you should do in that setting. But I found in the end they were. He, he, I think he was better than Kamala Harris. I didn't think she was I she was completely canned. And I mean, that's fine. But here's what you need to know. The Democrats, what they, when they look at a situation like this, and they're trying to figure out how are we going to get in power. They have to go in a place that is out of the American mainstream on policy because they're base demands it. They have to. They don't have a choice. This is, this is what they have to do. This is where their voters are. And then they, what's the, the, what's the primary processes over? Then you're in the general election mode. Okay. Yeah. Sure. We said all that stuff in the primary cycle. And this is exactly what Kamala Harris is doing. Sure. We did all this in the primary cycle, but, but, but. And instead they put an emphasis on just the pure aesthetics of the, of the campaign that they put up a person. They don't want what he is qualifications intellectually are less important than the aesthetics. Minnesota. Sort of a Midwestern vibe TV dad. Probably more, uh, dick York than fathers. Those best, but still like a, and then the modern TV dad, I guess, is like a bubbling buffoon as we have this world masculinity in our popular culture. But that's what they want to kind of goofball, I don't know, hair brain guy. That's, uh, oh, I mean, that's what they do with Joe Biden. That's what he was. Except Joe Biden was more mid Atlantic and Tim Walsh is more Midwestern. So that's what I think is going on there. But it's, they're purely concerned on Democratic side with the aesthetics and he checks the boxes that they were trying to get across. His intellectual have to maybe lacking. He's not a dummy, but he is not exactly somebody that you're going to put up there. And, and, and, you know, as a, as a debate society opponent for a, a Yale educated lawyer, right? And that was, that was the contrast, but that's your takeaway. But that's what the Democratic party is. Like they're, they're way out here on policy because they have a wacky goofy base. And then when they try to moderate, they don't moderate a policy. They, they kind of keep it out there kind of playing dumb about it as Harris is, or maybe she's not playing them. Maybe she is dumb. I don't know. And they create, they try to paint themselves a, a picture of moderation of, of, of, of, of somewhere in the middle somewhere, you know, sensible, pragmatic, not ideological. And then when they do go out on the ideological limb, I mean, they go all out. It's abortion, right? I don't know how much last night really means. I don't think it meant much. And I said this earlier. If you turned on MSNBC, you exactly like they, they did a big, big win for Tim Wills. You turn off Fox with Sean Hannity, a big, big win for JD Vance. I think JD Vance did win. And I think some other outlets, ABC, CBS, some of their commentators acknowledged this. But were you sitting there last night? Like, Oh boy, I don't know how I'm going to vote now. Based on the bottom of the ticket. So it's an intellectual exercise or whatever you want to call it. Well, we just need to see if these, either one of these gentlemen or radio day one to be president. And I mean, this may be unpopular or maybe popular. I don't know, but I think the Minnesota governor is way more prepared to be president of the United States than the vice president of the United States right now. If I had to pick, who would you rather have? Kamala Harris or Tim Walsh? I mean, neither are great options, but the latter seems to be to be at least as engaged as you can be. The top of the Democratic ticket is just a, you know, word salad fail. But Republicans have got to stop enabling the CBS's and ABC's airing dying breed. Their news divisions, they have got to stop playing ball at these guys. It is whether they, whether or not they sit out to play a role at these debates that favors one side or another, they may, they may have the best of intentions, but they're all biases, get in front of them and make them. And an actor and something they, I mean, they just, they refused to even be open. Do any kind of critical analysis under conventional wisdom or things like global warming or whatever the left wing talking point of the day is? I don't think, I don't, I don't, the Dom's case happened and things, the world has changed, but I think I get over how the, the Republican response to abortion. Like the, the culture underneath has gone in a different direction on this. And it feels like Republicans are, are kind of going with the culture on it. But that used to be a time when abortion was so taboo, you just didn't do that. And now like the left is softened that stands up so much where it's taboo if you don't have some kind of like path or legal abortion. I mean, Republicans for years and years and years and years staked themselves out on a place to be pro-life. And now they wobble what pro-life is. And I think they leave a lot of voters out in the cold when they do that. We'll be right back. This is FM Talk 1006 High. [Music] Cotton on the roadside, cotton in the ditch. We all picked the cotton but we never got rich. Daddy was a veteran, a southern Democrat. They ought to get a rich man to bolt like that singing. [Music] Wednesday morning, 2-5-1, 3-4-3-0-1-0-6. Jerry Carroll coming up in the next segment, so stay tuned for that. Martin writes, you're right about those pompous ass bias debaters. At one point, Vance even made a remark about it. Overall, the debate was too civil. I don't know, I just don't know what we were to expect from that. But Vance came off very, very good. He came off very well. Damiaki, CBS, not just bias, but clearly hostile toward Vance. The good news is I believe most Americans see it now. Well, well, two things here. I think that Vance is some kind of weirdo that like forticates with couches. I mean, that was clearly a media. Vance has been so unfairly portrayed by the mainstream media because they were able to try to paint him in a way that no one... I mean, I think a lot of people watched the movie "Hillbilly Elegy." I don't know how many read the book, but most people probably didn't. And they treated... they made him out to be something he wasn't. Now, let me ask you all this. And this is... this gets back to Republicans enabling these mainstream media news outlets. Why did the debate moderation become a series of gotcha questions? And this doesn't just go for Vance. This goes for Tim wants to when they started doing the same thing to him. Well, we don't just put an issue out there, state your policy and debate it, and why your issue is... why your stance on the issue is the best. It has to be like a gotcha question. Like a... we're gonna corner you here. We're gonna corner you here and you explain and go. We're doing it to both sides. So it's... I don't... what does the voter get out of that? The media can do this in the interviews. They have... well, unless you're come out here, as you don't get the chance to put a gotcha question to her. But they can do this in these interview settings. They should not do this in a debate setting. This is not what people need for a debate. This isn't... this isn't Nora O'Donnell. And Margaret braided interviewing these two guys. They made them too much... too big part of the story. Like I said, the... the camp counselors up there and they're just so much disdain. So much smug arrogance up there. Oh, we have to talk to these two Neanderthals. When can women rule the world? Just gather away and let Kamala run the world. But it's just... all it is is these gotcha questions for both sides. And that's not what it ought to be. This isn't an interview. Like I said, there's a time and a place for that. And as a prominent mainstream media personalities, we'll get that opportunity if they so choose or so pursue it. However, I don't think these debates ought to be conducted like that. I don't think you should... Hey, here's a gotcha question for him. And here's a gotcha question for him. See, we're fair. We're unbiased about, I guess, stick to the issues. Is January 6th really an issue? And if it is, like, where does it rank? And we could poll it and we could say, well, it's in the top 10. I don't think it's in the top 10. I think abortion is. I don't know that... I guess climate change could be. Just depends on how the poll is. But just make a list of issues. You can even like get a poll quote from their past stated position. But like, hey, when you say Trump was Hitler, what did you mean by that? Is that a debate question? Is that a policy question? Or is that, hey, look what we're doing to you? Now you've got to answer for this. That's not what these debates are designed for. It should be about what the moderators... Like I said, they're conducting some kind of gotcha interview. It's not meant to be... Or it shouldn't be that way, but maybe that's the way they perceive it. Am I wrong? Squirrel, dear, Marjorie Taylor agrees she's to be the only one. Honestly, saying how harmful abortion is. The examples let's just like to put, like to tell, are minuscule and they fail to call out the root problems of them. Michael, the debate last night was far more enjoyable than the Trump Kamala. But I agree they're pointless. The country is so balkanized that there should truly be two countries. I'm not quite there with you, Michael. But I agree with you with the debates. We'll be right back. This is the Jeff Moore show at FM Talk 1.065. For your time you workin' for the army for living. Just to send it all down the line. This is for the one who drives the big red. The first thing I remember knowing was a lonesome whistle blowing and a youngin's dream of growing up to ride. Welcome back to the Jeff Moore show at FM Talk 1.065. Thanks for hanging out with us on this Wednesday morning 2513430106. Joey Clark coming up in about an hour and about two hours. The official Democrat response of the Jeff Moore show Parker Griffith will be with us. Hey, Gout, don't go anywhere wants to come. But joining us now, he is our congressman at least for the time being always appreciative of his time. Jerry Carl, congressman. Good morning, aren't ya? Good morning, Jeff. It's great to be with you, buddy. Hey, it's great having you on. I always appreciate you making time for us. It's always great to get you on. So how you feeling about how you feel about the election in general, kind of on the day after this vice presidential debate, which very well could be the last debate of the cycle. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that will be the last debate between the president and vice president. But I think Trump's going to win it. I really do. I feel positive about that. The Senate, I think we're going to take the Senate back over. I hate to say about how many votes or how many seats, but I think we will take control of that. And the House has got me a little worried, but I know the members are working hard that Democrats have just raised so much money. You know, it's not Hollywood money. And it's, they've got a lot of money to push their messages out on, which I'm still working with, obviously, our district to adoption. And I'm also helping another candidate up in Idaho this week. So we're all traveling, trying to help one another. Well, I'll talk to some of your colleagues about this at the Auburn game. Look, my crowders, I'll just go and say his name. And he thinks that much better better. I mean, he's, he seems very, very optimistic on this much more optimistic than a lot of people. And I don't, I don't know where that comes from. But he thinks eight, 10 seat majority, which gives you a little breathing room. And maybe you're still somewhat held hostage, you know, by the right, right flank of the party. But it's not going to be as easy for them to get what they, what they have gotten in the past, or McCarthy. Yeah, and, and I certainly would lean. I would trust Mike's numbers better than my gut feeling as Mike's in leadership. And he has, he's privy to a lot of things that, you know, that we're not. I'm not. That's okay. You don't, but I like Mike's thinking, and Mike wouldn't say it like he had something to back it up. Yeah. And I mean, we all know where he is cut on. I mean, he's on the House Freedom Caucus and that, but he thinks Republicans do well this cycle. And then we sort of go back to the old, old working order in the house where, you know, you don't see a Jim Jordan or somebody like that as a, as a chairman. It's, it's back to the old rules, back to the way we've always done things. And I don't know. I mean, I mean, it's hard for you to say, we're trying to look forward into a crystal ball or something here. But do you think that's sort of where things will wind up eventually? Yeah, I think Jim Jordan's working the floor. He's trying to, he's trying to help a handful of folks out. He thinks can probably help him swing enough boats to get back to take that seat. I think Mike's done as good of a job as anybody could possibly have done. Mike Johnson, under, under the circumstances, that's one job. I don't think I would ever wish on my enemies because there's always two sides to everything and everybody's willing to fight for it. But I think Jim Jordan is going to make a run at it. I think you're probably going to see a couple more members make a run at it. But the old school guys are not big on Jim Jordan. Jim's obviously got a strong following among the ultra conservative group. And we'll just have to wait and see. I'm glad I won't be there for that fireworks show because that will take a couple of days. That won't be something that happens overnight. Tell me this, Congress. Because my perception of the house, and if you want to be in leadership, and John Boehner's kind of leaves us out, and I wonder if it's still this way, you want to be in leadership. I mean, you become like a fundraiser. You are willing to travel around the country. Now, Paul Ryan kind of backed away from that because he was like the reluctant speaker at first. But I see these guys, you know, Mike Johnson or whoever is the leader of the caucus or ultimately the speaker. How do they do with that? I mean, like fundraising for the party and put into party in a place where the Republicans in the house can build on majorities or in a Democrat cycle, play defense where needed. I mean, a lot of that is what gets you to leadership. And I think some of that has been lacking the last couple of cycles. Well, McCarthy was the best I've ever seen it raising money. He really was. Now, Mike's got a totally different personality and I love Mike to death. And again, Mike's doing a great job. But raising money, it used to be so tiring. Let me revise my question. Not just fundraising, but just as a political tactician, like the ability to, you know, obviously have the resources you need. But knowing like sort of like McConnell was at his prime, knowing the picking and choosing what fights to have, knowing the messaging, having the right people in the right places, like running that machine, which is a full time job itself in addition to managing the house floor. But the political side of it is what seems to be where Republicans seem to be struggling right now. And the reason we struggle, you have a conservative versus the ultra conservatives. And we just care one another up in the field. I mean, and it's, you know, people don't understand the word conservative is much different in the part of the country that you're in. You find a conservative in California or New York, even an ultra conservative. And you bring them back here and you think they're a liberal. I mean, it's just you do become a product of your environment. We are considered ultra conservative here in South Alabama. But we are treated that way. So it's not easy to pick those candidates up and the RNC, there's several organizations that will reach out to these candidates that are running. They will screen them. They will grade them. And that's turned over to our RNC leadership and of course, leadership would decide whether they're going to help them financially or not. You know, biggest thing is, are they electable? You know, if you got a seat that's, you know, a D10 or D7, you know, it's hard to get past that D10 or D7. I think with Trump on the ballot this year, I think we got a strong chance of taking those D plus seats. Dobson, here's a good example. There'll be a lot of people that normally don't vote. We'll get out and vote for Trump in our area. So we've got to use what we can use and she could certainly benefit from that. Tough thing for her is going to be next cycle. She wins this one. The real tough match is going to be next cycle because Trump won't be on the ballot. And those people that only vote for Trump turn out to vote for Trump won't turn out and vote. That would be, that would be a tough sport for her. I'm afraid to say. Yeah, I think, I think, I mean, we got to get past 2024, but I mean, whoever wins at 26, if it's Harris, the problem for the Republican in the House is you're going to, I think, going to have a very red hot, like, tea party-ish cycle in, in 2026. And that's, that's, you got to deal with that in the primary. However, if Trump wins, then it's, it's kind of the opposite, right? You're, you're playing defense. It is, I mean, midterm and they're going to be out for blood in 26 and they're going to do what they got to do. 26 is shaping up to be whatever way you look at it, at least for, for my House Republican leadership perspective, going to be a very tough cycle either way. Yeah, for everybody across the board. So it's, it's, it's interesting to watch out, you know, I sometimes thank God I didn't win. I'm going to get to sit around and watch this play out because it's going to get a little nasty up there, especially when you get closer to swearing in and, and all of that, regardless who wins, who loses, it's still going to get pretty nasty. But you know, this country's always gone through some form of that, you know, obviously some more extreme than others. So we'll make it. We're a strong country. We got, we got such a strong future and a head office and one person is not going to change this country. They may alter it. They may steer it in the wrong direction, but the American voters are smart enough. They will, they will, they will turn it around. This, I think is going to be the, the, the point in history that we can say this vote turned it around. So I'm looking at the, I'm looking at the younger voters. The younger voters, you're coming out much more conservative here lately, especially here in South Alabama. So that's a good sign. Joined by Congressman Jerry Carl here on the program, Congressman. But when you say that, uh, I always thought this about that. And this, this conventional wisdom that certain demographics be at age, ethnicity, uh, race or whatever religion, uh, we always are told or preached at like, yeah, you have to court the millennials. You have to court the disease. You have to court the gen X's if you're old enough to remember that. And it's always the same, like, tripe, right? It's always like, well, you've got to soften your position on these issues or you'll never get to young vote. But the young vote eventually gets older and more conservative. And I, I, I, you know, I find that to be more of a, more of a left thing, right? But maybe, maybe you're right that the, this, this generation is a little more jaded. And a little, not as, uh, uh, not as lovey dovey with the institutional left, as maybe others have been. Well, I think this generation in college is, is, is beginning to see the pressure that, you know, hired rochers, the, the, the, everything's expensive, even in their short lifetime. I mean, they've been in college for three years, for example, they've seen these spikes and all these costs, and they want to try something different. Everybody refers to it as a Republican, uh, our Democrat, or they'll refer to it as a conservative or liberal. And, and I, I really think it's changed the mindset of so many of these young people. Now, once I get old enough to have full-time jobs for paying taxes, that makes a huge change in anybody. I mean, you start going, what do you mean? I gave up 35% of my income for taxes. Uh, you know, so it, it, I've got, I think the future is very bright. I truly do. And, and I think we got to keep doing what we're doing. Lean in and all of the things we need to lean, lean in on and start being the conservative Republicans that we are. Start speaking up. I mean, Jay, you've answered a great job last night. He truly did. He did not get mad. He did not get out of order, but he did lean in the things that he truly believed in. And I, and I, you have to commend anybody that, that, that'll do that, especially this day and age, because in the political world, you've got, even as a conservative, you got two different sides of the conservative pulling at you at all times. Uh, one wants to see this and then another, the other side wants to see something different. And it's hard. It's hard just to be a conservative Republican, which your own base, believe it or not, because they will turn on you very quickly, because of social media. Social media might oppose the batch and boom, you've lost 3% of your vote, because of something somebody posts on social media that's not even true. But that doesn't make any difference. They read it and they believe it. So it's a very fine line and it's a tough business to be in, uh, in politics. But some of us choose it to do it. I did it, you know, I did it because I want this, my west serving the country. Well, uh, right, wrong or indifferent. What's the next for you, do you want to run for mayor? Uh, you know, we're looking at that, Jeff, and, and I, I know it sounds strange, but I've laid some things out that, that, that I was taught by a preacher how to do this, but I've laid some things out that I want to see, and only God can fulfill those things. And it's not money. It's not what most people would think. And if those things fall into place, you'll see me get, get on board. If they don't fall in place, you will not see me get on board. It's that simple. So my job right now is just to sit tight, pray, keep my mind open, keep doing my job in Washington. Let's see where God wants us to go. Cause there are so many opportunities for me, uh, in the private sector and in the political sector. So, uh, we're just going to wait and see where God wants us because if I don't go where I think God wants me, I'm going to be miserable. And I don't want to be miserable the rest of my life. I want to enjoy it. Well, I'll tell you what, Congressman, though, you got history kind of, well, you're, you're two, your last two predecessors have gone on to take, I would say like big screaming, uh, public roles, but, uh, the president of the University of South Alabama with Congressman Bonner and a Congressman burned there at the Chamber of Commerce. I mean, there's a, those are both big things in this community. There's a template there to go, it's not like running for president. I guess is what I was kind of leaning into or governor or something. But those are big deals. Don't want to minimize that. But, uh, in this, in this nick of the woods, there seems to be sort of a legacy there. I'm trying to find a place I can serve. You know, it's never been about money in my life and I've always managed to do well. My wife and I both, but it's not about money, Jeff. It's, it's about where I can serve and where can I serve. I mean, Chamber of Commerce, that's a great job for Bradley. That is a beautiful job for this city and have somebody that knows the road flight Bradley does. Joe, Joe Bonner at University of South Alabama, my gosh, it doesn't get a better match than that. I don't know where I fit in this big world. If it's, if it's an elected position as a mayor, or, or if it's, you know, something bigger, or if it's a private sector, I really don't know. But I'm, I'm just going to sit and be patient and time runs out. That tells me exactly what God wanted me to do, which is nothing. Well, I do have an unpaid position for you to fill. You can always be a, uh, a political analyst for the Jeff Porsche. FmTalk 10065, uh, if you associate, you know, I'm always here for you. I enjoy both you and Sean. So anytime you need me, I'm here for you. Hey, I'm not trying to, uh, this is kind of an odd transition here, but, uh, from that to this, this Iranian attack on Israel and Israel looking to strike back. I mean, is this just these, these tit-for-tat things, what it looks like, or do you think this is the beginning of something bigger? I think this is something, uh, the beginning of something bigger. And I'll tell you what I based it on. And I'm not privy to the, in, any of the intel there. So I can tell you what I think. But when you see Saudi Arabia, when you, when you see those, the Saudi base, uh, those, those countries around Saudi Arabia go quiet. That means that they've already had a conversation with A to United States and B Israel, and they're going to let Israel have their way. Those people and Iran are terrorists to everyone in that region, not just to the Israelis. So the Israelis, and I've said it a thousand times, you do not, you do not mess with guys chosen people. If you don't believe that, go buy you a patron writer or wear it around. You think, I mean, that brilliant stuff. And, and these people have had enough, and they're going to defend themselves. And I hope as the United States, we do everything in our power to help them win this, because Iran is the threat to the world, not just to Israel, but to the world, but by, by, by the EU being silent on this, that tells me that that's the permission they need to go and do what they need to do. What do they do? They check out the first thing you do is cut money off, which is petroleum. You cut all their exports off, blow up, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, ports. You blow up tankers, you blow up everything you blow up. The second thing is that nuclear, uh, uh, facility they got. I would, that thing would be a pile of sand when I got through with it. Now I don't know nuclear energy. That may be the worst thing to do for somebody judges me on that, but we've got to stop the development of nuclear, uh, nuclear weapons there. Hey, uh, real quick, 30 seconds, uh, dock workers strike. Uh, does this get resolved sooner or later? I, you know, my dad, my dad was a, uh, a longshoreman, uh, in that union. Also, uh, I, I understand, I can appreciate anybody wanting to make more money. I think the amount that they're talking about might be a stretch. You know, I think it's going to go to maybe three weeks. I mean, the, the union itself is just taking a beating on social media, uh, and being labeled as greedy. So, uh, I, I think they'll get something to work out. President's got to get more involved. I mean, it may be the present. I mean, we, we, we started talking present two months ago through channels and they're doing nothing. Congressman, we appreciate it. Thanks for making time for us. Let's do it again soon. Thanks, Jeff. God bless. Take care. Jerry Carlage. Yeah, but we'll be right back. This is F.M. Talk. 106 five. Well, you're back to the Jeff Force show at F.M. Talk. 106 five. Joy Clark coming up into the next hours to stay right where you are. Two, five, like three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six. It would be a touch with the program. That's how you do. So, uh, really got a bunch of texts to get to. You're trying to get one out of the way. I know we went a little long there in that last segment. Our work partner says he's tired of hearing about last night's debate. What do you want to talk about? Well, what is, um, well, let's keep in mind listening to the political talk show. What is more appropriate for a political talk show on the day after a debate that only occurs every four years? We could talk about, uh, I don't know. Uh, I think we're going to talk about the debate though. Uh, so tell your work partner. I'm sorry. My prayers are with him. And I hope he makes it through this very challenging moment in his life. Uh, Jerry writes Vance was baiting all three of those women last night. I saw that somebody say that last night as well. Uh, I get it. Yeah. Tim Walsh is, uh, we'll get into the debate moderator thing again, if we must in the next segment, but, uh, I'm so over it. We'll be right back. This is the Jeff Moore show. I have to talk one oh six five. From bucks pocket to the shores of orange beach at all points in between an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Porsche show. I don't think this way. Welcome back to the Jeff Porsche show enough and talk one oh six five. Thank you for being with us on this Wednesday morning. Two five one three four three zero one zero six is the text line. And so we communicate. So our number two underlay now, uh, still come on to program. Joey Clark in about 30 minutes and about an hour and a half Parker Griffith, the official Democrat response of the Jeff Porsche show here on FM talk, one of six five. Uh, David said, ask Jerry, is he considering running for mayor? Well, we did. Y'all heard the answer. What do we, uh, Sean and I talked about this a little to hand out the other day. Who's up? Who's got a run and, uh, you know, we'll say these steps and not running for reelection. Jerry Carl Cubs, I mean, here's thing about him. I mean, number one, he's what a county commission seat. I think he'll be able to raise a bunch of money unlike somebody because he just, this is, he's been in that rarefied air of a big, big office like that. Who else would you see? Everybody? And the day I keep hearing is Gina Gregory. I mean, she's been on the council for a while. I don't know. Um, It's been her big accomplishments. Uh, well, he dealt with her a few times. As a matter of fact, like he's been this long. They got dealt with her when she was a, uh, well, I was still at South Alabama way back in the day. I remember now there was old shell road. It was backwind. Cross of the Mitchell center. There was picklefish. It's something different now. I, I forget, which used to be kind of a place people go. They would cross that little street. They had walked to their, they were, I guess, student housing or something on the other side of the street. This is way, way back in the day. And at the time, the student government president, Jennifer Edwards, I believe, uh, and then I sort of collaborated on getting a crosswalk put there, on old shell road. And that's the time, only time I ever dealt like directly with Gina Gregory, even in this role is a radio commentator in, uh, Atlanta app all these years. It's had to be 20, more to 20 years ago. Um, other than that, I don't know. I want to make a her. Um, then will Carol, I think we'll run. He'll run a, he'll run in the lane of the, the, and he's got a shot at being mayor. I mean, he's got to do it. He just seems like the guy coming out of that side of the, uh, of the, the primary, if you will, if you think of the general election as the sort of primary season and then the runoff as the general election, he can get in the runoff. And if you get a runoff, anything could happen. And there'll be some other names. I think a lot of people are kind of ruling it out. Watch these consultants or that's what I'm watching. Well, who are these consultants put out there pushing? But you got a guy like Jerry Carley, you got to like his shot. He's got name recognition, name ID. It's already built in. That's not something he has to spend a lot of money on. And he can just run his race. And I, you know, I know he lost a very more, but the, the first congressional district is a lot more complicated than just the city of mobile. The city of mobile is complicated and it's complicated more than any city, maybe Huntsville gives it a run for its money in Tuscaloosa, but trying to figure out an election strategy is very, very, I mean, you just watch the past election cycles. It's tricky. But if we're doing the handicapping right now, and it's a long way until next year, but this will be sort of underway, you got to put Jerry Carl, I think William Carroll, Gina Gregory is the name I keep hearing. Yeah, put them up there on the list. I don't think we'll see the other city. I don't think you'll see a state lawmaker, anybody like that jump in, but I'm happy to hear who else. Kevin asks is Jerry living the city of mobile? As far as I know, yes. Tim, Carl can be the dog catcher, dog should not listen to BS. Why do you like Jerry? You don't want to find her. Okay, you got to find her. Like, what do you want? If you want a mayor and you really think that he is a quote, unquote fighter, but he got a nonpartisan election, he's the best bet ideologically. I mean, if he thinks any government needs to be read from an ideological point of view, he may not be your freedom caucus tea party guy. What I think he'd be, and this is solely based on just a conservative versus liberal thing. This isn't like a pragmatic day to day running government thing, but if this is kind of, we're talking these kind of 10,000 foot view, ideological environment, if you will, he's a guy. He'd be a, he'd be an improvement from Sadie Stimson. Do you think you'd have an LGBTQ liaison or a Jerry Carl administration in city hall? Do you think you would have this trouble with the police department? I mean, and with that may not be ideological. There may be just managerial issues there. James Barber, I know, but that's, that's a heavy lift. I mean, he's the guy in the city hall and he's got, he's known to us who talk about this. Paul Pride. I don't know. Guys who've never done politics before. Uh, Sergeant Young. Let's move on from this. Uh, should JD run in four years? What a great performance. Best rich for mayor. Probably best rich. She lives over here with me now in Fair Hope. So you have to strike her off the list. Uh, back to JD Vance. We're thinking about this a lot lately, actually. And you know, like Trump wins in November. He's still sort of the head of the movement for the next four years. If he loses in November, then who are, if you believe in four years, then who? And I think JD Vance solidified his spot as kind of the leader of the, I don't call it populism or the new Republican party. Uh, here's what you need to know. Either way, when or lose in November, the establishment's coming back. They're going to try to retake the party that this globalist sort of like, uh, you know, never met a situation where there ought to be a tariff that they, they talk in these ideological terms, but it's really kind of a pro corporate thing. Or it's just pseudo intellectualism that some of these want to be elite put out there. And there's a lot of these want to be elites. I mean, sometimes you hear them on these airwaves, but they're going to retry to rebrand, retake the party. They're going to try their, their point of view. They're going to dispatch of this populism, dispatch of this, uh, you know, catering to what people want to tell them what they want. And that's going to come back. And that's what's going to try to retake the party. And what's going to be hopefully standing in the way of that is a guy like JD Vance. Then there's a reason for this, I think, I mean, all these people who were very down on the JD Vance pick for vice president. And it was a lot of Republicans. I think those are the Republicans. They gotta, they gotta go head to head intellectually with JD Vance. Are they capable of that? Are these like Jonah Goldberg type Republicans or conservatives or whatever you want to call them? And I guess, you know who they are. They, for some reason, get very lofty positions on a mainstream media platforms. But they're all down on universally on JD Vance as Trump's pick. I mean, the people who were down on Trump who could go figure are down on the guy he picks to be his running mate. And I don't know what what we were told why he was so taboo, why he was so bad in their eyes. It'd be different if they were some kind of left-winger, some kind of world Dom or JD Crowe type. Okay, but very damn old JD Vance is a pick a yell educated guy, right? They got to go head to head when they try to retake the party from him. Well, history on the ILA president. Harold Doggett, the ILA boss who pledged to cripple the United States on the 76 foot yacht. I bet Lee gets paid over $900,000. It was acquittal. Rico charges after the witness against him. mobster Lawrence Rishi found that he was founding composing in a car in New Jersey. Well, it's such a disease. Pride would have a chance at mayor. I don't know like I think you guys who spend way too much time on Facebook know who he is. And I'm not saying he would be a bad candidate. He has a story to tell. I mean, he is mobile through it through. You could talk about how he grew up and and he knows the city like anybody else. But Paul Pride got a lot of, he's got a lot of play and a lot of catch up to catch up to somebody's already been in office. And like I said, I go back to Carl. I go back to even Gina Gregory, William Carroll. Same. Believe it or not, the same sort of thinking applies to barber. And I know they're like arch rivals, pride and barber. But if you're just looking at it objectively and looking at them as candidates, I think they face the same hurdle. And it's creating a name ID, creating a name for themselves becoming known to the entire city to where they people go in to vote and recognize the name. And at least creating a brand because I think these other, these others all have a brand already associated with them. Our dog. After the last time Parker was on, I've just had lost respect for him. I'll be turning off the show when he is on from now and bit of a bummer as I've always enjoyed his segments. I give him another chance, fire dog. What else you got to watch or listen to? William Carroll is a leftist, radical, friendly Democrat. But there's a lane for him. I mean, there are people who want to who will vote that way in this city or it's not this city, but not where I'm standing right now. But there are he has a it's not about like what his views are. I mean, I'm telling you that he he's a guy who a lot of people will respond to jeans has best rich best rich lives in Fair Hope. Gene, I didn't think best rich would be your your type of candidate here. I like the you would go more in the direction of I don't know. The radical liberal bookstore owner or something. Byron Daniels for president from an unnamed texture. Tim, Jeff, I like how JD fact check the fact checker. Yeah, then they cut his bike. I did just as gets back to you cannot hate the media enough part. Five million and seven or whatever. But Republicans keep enabling this. They don't have very much leverage over these people where they do. They got to use it. I'd prefer Carl, but pride could pull a lot of black votes to the majority black city. He's got ties to the minority community. Just depends on how many minority candidates get in this race at the bath. We'll add up for it, but we're way, way ahead of ourselves. We'll be right back. This is a Jeff or show it up and talk with us. Six, five. Hard of mine. I keep my eyes wide open all of it. Welcome back to the Jeff or show it up. I'm talk one of six five. Thanks for staying with us. On this Wednesday morning, two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six is the text line coming up in the next segment. We'll talk to Joy Clark from Montgomery radio. That's coming up here shortly. Wayne. Good morning, Jeff. Good morning, Wayne. The city of Mobile is big business and they need a good businessman with a prove-it-track record to handle that big business on the city of Mobile. They don't need any policeman firemen. DI Canada or some low IQ Canada. They need a top flight business person to be elected mayor of Mobile. Problem with that, Wayne, is would you take the pay cut? If you're a successful businessman, would you take the pay cut to go serve? Some people would. I disagree with you a little bit. I think you've got to know how to navigate power. You got to have an understanding, especially if Mobile increasingly becoming a federal city. You need somebody like a battle. Now, I don't think that Mobile should become Huntsville as reliant upon the federal government as Huntsville has become over the years for their local economy. We have a lot more natural resources and a lot more accessibility and commerce and things like that that don't make us rely upon one function of government. But knowing how to deal with Congress, knowing how to deal with higher ed academia, you got to be very mobile centric. There's no question about that, but the city, like I said, is City Hall is such a, it's like I used to view the state and trying to understand Montgomery and this entire state. There's just chapters to be written about all the neighborhoods and all the history and the way the city was. Even like the legacy of like 40 years ago and the perception the city of Mobile has and understanding how all that comes together that shapes voters psychology, that shapes the economy. Mobile more than any other place to social structure here. It's different than, I mean, you know, maybe Savannah or Charleston or some of these older cities, but Mobile and New Orleans, I mean, they all kind of, they just, it's just different. It's not like any city of this size. And you've got to know how to navigate these things. And I guess like all the secret societies are in Mardi Gras, all of the local sensitivities with religion, with respect to that, Mobile is a place where all these cultures kind of come together, like Gulf Coast, plus like the Alabama sort of branded culture and then all, you know, if you want to be the rarefied heir of the leader of a place like this, it's, it's, it's, it's not simple. I look at Mobile and try to understand the politics of Mobile and the historic legacy. And I mean, it is, it is vastly complicated compared to like any other city of this size. Knoxville or somewhere like that. Or I don't know. Tallahassee even two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, fire dogs says he, Hall reruns, maybe the Andy Griffith show, Matlock, I just got $5 DVD set of Dirty Harry. I work from home, so it gots a lot of options. You still have a working DVD player, fire dog, or dog, don't let me down, stick around for Parker Griffith. It just reinforces your ideological core, because you know about Congressman Griffith, there's not much there that we disagree with. It's the ad hominum and the ad hominum. I don't think he's a valid reason to be where he is politically, because, because I will predict to you what he's going to talk about at 11 o'clock segment. It's just going to be personalities. And Jadivates is weird and tropes the bitches, but it's, it's not going to be what they actually represent. Watch, mark my word. We'll be right back. This is F.F.F. Talk about 065. All right, let's take it on to have some muscle shells through your potatoes. Mm. Burnin' half. Ooh, my gosh! Right up over Spanish, or into Mobile, my hometown. Mr. T. Look up back to the Jeff Porte Showed. If I'm talking about 065, thank you for staying with us on this Wednesday morning, 2513430106. Thank you for staying with us on this Wednesday morning, 2513430106 once again is the tax line. So look up on the program, former Congressman Parker Griffith, but joining us now on the line, we do this every Wednesday. Very pleased to be joined by Joey Clark from DuceTalk931 up in Montgomery. Joey, good morning, are you? Doing great this morning. How are you doing, Jeff? Hanging in there is late night, as you might imagine, but I, you know, I tell you what, Joey, this, you and I talk about the corporate media all the time, but and the corporate media may be here with us and nothing you and I can do about it, but we can't complain about the Republican party enabling these people. Absolutely. I don't know why Republican party continues to put up with this. Maybe it's because some of them are kind of in that world. One of my biggest takeaways from last night watching were of course the moderators, and it wasn't just the sort of like seething that was apparent in particular, Margaret Brennan's face. It was the framing of questions. It's very frustrating, especially if you don't live in that world and you don't have much respect for it anymore. But my biggest takeaway is the Republicans, especially say Summit Fox News, who were like, Oh, Trump should have picked Nikki Haley for BP, not this dance guy. Man, Vance blew that out of the water. That guy was a rock star last night on TV. I agree with that assessment. And I, you know, I think these people who were saying that Democrats are going to do what they're going to do. Nothing Trump does is going to satisfy them. But these never Trumpers, these never Trumpers are going to have to deal with JD Vance from here forward. This is they're going to try to retake the party. The establishment is, but I don't think the establishment so called establishment has control other Republican party now. But what's going to be standing in the way, and this is important when loser draw in November or whatever happens in 2028, they got to deal with JD Vance from here on out. Well, and I remember discovering JD Vance all the way back when his ability to come out and, you know, saw him kind of on the conservative think tank speaking circuit. It was always impressive how smart he was, but I had not seen him until like last night it really hit me. How do you have to convince him? What's the line Trump said to try to keep it clean? Man, he's one good looking SOV. And I just found the guy who's charisma, confidence, and seem to have like two standard deviations of IQ on everybody at that road. Like I hadn't seen something like that in a while. Honestly, this is something that servers will hate. It reminded me of blood, Barack Obama's way through command of stage. So, you know, I think JD Vance just has a bright future no matter what happens. I want to say something crazy though. Well, maybe this is a totally crazy. I don't think that Walt's, I mean, Walt was pretty bad coming out of the gate. I don't think he had a bad, bad night, but I think he is superior to Kamala Harris. Oh, yeah. And my number one takeaway from Walt is I can't be so sorry for the guy. And I don't think that's a, there's certainly the effect he was intending, but he seemed kind of like that. Yeah, don't be Midwestern and in over is that. And Tim's calling himself a knucklehead. I'm like, yeah, you are. You're kind of a, I don't know, he seemed like the guy in Congress, even though he'd be a Democrat, you could get a bigger win and do some work on together. And I don't know if that's what the Democrats wanted to push. But you're right. I think Walt's had a few bad moments, but generally speaking, he sort of was very conciliatory and again, things that out of his depth to a degree. Yeah, but you know, just to face value. And this is, this is what Democrats do. There's no like profound policy aspect to Tim Walsh. I mean, he's just a cookie cutter Democrat of the of 2024. I mean, you could insert him in any scenario. I think he's more prepared, however, to be president of the United States, they Kamala Harris. Maybe so with the executive experience. I mean, I see walls is like, what was seeping out through the cracks last night is he is sort of that practical executive in a fairly blue stay. And so that's why he came across as a reasonable, but then you could see the programming that shoved him. Well, he's these few months, especially this past week, he was trying to get that back. And I think Kamala is the perfect person if you're essentially running the machine and you want somebody who will say whatever you need her to say. And they thought they had that in walls. But I think the actual guy sort of snuck down to the stage, despite his programming from the machine. Yeah. And I would say this about him. Here's the way I look at it that I don't think the Democrats had to go so far out on a limb to win their primary to even get the D next to their name and be considered acceptable. It's just what Democrats have to do with their grassroots. It's why they bypass the primaries this time. I'm convinced of it. But then once you get to this phase of the game, you can't really moderate from those positions because they're so far out there, but you can't win in a broad sense. So what I think Democrats do is they lean hard on the aesthetics, they lean hard on sort of this outward appearance. And you know that they work on this assumption that a lot of people are not smart enough to really understand the vast policy issues. And they're more gut reactionary, judge a guy, judge a book by its cover. Just look at this guy. Does he look like he can play the role on West Wing or something? Yeah. And that's what they go for. I think that's just Tim Walts in a nutshell. He's a guy. Yeah. Check his resume. Yeah. He's governor of Minnesota. Check. But he does he look like he can be a vice president. Sure. And then what does he believe? Doesn't matter. People don't think that far ahead. Stick him in that slot. No, I think you're 100% spot on in that regard. And I don't think it helps those like the number one idea of he was going to help men to vote for him. Again, I think most men watching that either didn't like the guy at all or fell sorry for him. Like he didn't even come across as some guy that made me want to join his team and came across as some guy playing a role that he didn't quite fit in. And I think you're right about the Democrats. They well, it's the programming. The programming they were putting into walls is the same exact programming they put out on CBS News APC NBC. So everybody sort on the same page. Just repeat these memes we created and your golden man. You don't have to get that deep into the weeds. As some of you said earlier, he did seem very nervous in the first like five, 10 minutes, like where he's just stumbling all over himself. And maybe it's because foreign policy wasn't a depth, but he definitely was reshaping almost. It was it was noticeable. Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna. I mean, yeah, you need to do better, obviously, than me that noticeably nervous, but I guess I kind of get it. I'd be nervous in that position. But they don't play the expectations for him so much. I think like the word was out just watching MSNBC and CNN and the lead up to this. And that's what it was like, well, he's not going to be quite as polished as JD Vance. You mean, he can't go toe to toe with the guy that has sex with couches? What are you telling me here or whatever? And like, I mean, like, these people are just shameless, but that's what it looked like they were trying to do. And I don't know that the, like, TV show that's watched by like 400 500,000 people really makes much of a difference. But you can see where the narrative is being crafted, like Claire McCaskill or, or, you know, Nicole Wallace or whoever. Well, you know, JD Vance is going to be very good. It's going to be hard for Wallace, but maybe he could maybe he could pull it off. And then sure enough, those same people, and I predict today will say what a grand slam performance by the Minnesota governor. Oh, of course, of course. I think it's hard to say now with a straight face. The way Vance presented himself, it's hard to say with a straight face all the memes they were throwing out about, you know, the guy that got to a couch and in some of the other things, the weirdness, he's creepy, he doesn't like women, they sorts of things that, again, it's that passive aggressive girl boss approach that seems to run so much of the Democratic Party and corporate culture. But I think he kind of, anybody who's reasonable going and willing to accept their mind change was probably had that notion shattered by Vance last night. And I, after that performance, I put him even above, say, like if they drop a swampy or a lot of this new class, a new generation I like, I like Senator Brett, but I thought Vance just proved himself to be on a different level in a pretty hostile environment. I would not. I would have probably embarrassed myself if I had to deal with that sort of the questions and moderation. Let's talk about the moderators and we've already, we've got, and we probably have got to stop enabling these moderators. And this is something we talk about every relationship cycle. Well, it's going to be different next time. I thought the, the template ought to be, if we're going to go mainstream media, the Jay, the Jake Tapper, Data Bash, and June, but there may have been some home cooking there to get by now the way we don't know. But that ought to be, that ought to be the template for these debates going forward. And that that has to be the terms right now that I mean, you need to bait from this point forward. If Trump does another debate, or we're looking at 2028, that has to be the format. We cannot have this mean girls approach, or we can't have this virtue signaling from the moderator. You know, when did debate moderation become a series of gotcha questions and this applies to both candidates last night, they were both playing the gotcha game. I don't think that's appropriate. You want to interview them and play that game. That's fair game. In a debate setting, you throw out the issue, maybe you quote them on something they said in the past, but the issue is got to be more, they can't be like January six. Oh my gosh, but it has to be like very broad abortion, immigration, trade, energy, whatever, health care. And you give them their spiel and then they can debate it back and forth or whatever. But this thing where the moderators play this gotcha game. It's nonsense. It's got to stop and Republicans got to stop enabling it. Amen. And you know, I've never done something like that, certainly not at that level, but I think the idea of an ideal moderator, especially presidential setting is you need to be, you need to disappear. Like you don't need to be seen almost like people need to forget your reason there. And I think that's the best moderator. And since, as you just said, ask more general questions, here's the general topic today. What do y'all think? As opposed to, yeah, if you're, if you want to do the gotcha stuff, you want to do the biography stuff, either the candidates can do it to one another, or you do it in an interview afterwards in the spend room or something, or sit down on Sunday morning. Why the Republicans put up with this? I don't know. I think there is still a large part of, say, the establishment Republican Party that is wedded to this older system. And they're even willing to somewhat sacrifice their candidates in their edge in order to, you know, keep the gravy train going. Yeah. And these, these media outlets were kind of dining off of their legacy, right? Like CBS, ABC, NBC, New York, Ties, Washington Post, played a much bigger role in our world 20, 30, 40 years ago. But they don't play that big of a role, and they're dining off of that. And we continue to let them die off of that, or we say we, but I mean, Republicans, guys don't have to respect them when they call you. You could tell them to go to hell. You don't have to. And as good as applies, even in this state, Joey to the dying Montgomery advertiser, I think you're going to have big building downtown. There's like two people working in it, but it applies to ale.com. It applies to these legacy media outlets and whatever they call a Republican, and they have a hostile exchange. You don't have to take their phone call anymore. They do not. They're not the gatekeepers that they once were. Yeah, no, and I think it's a good thing, but because it's, you know, death throws a little hyperbolic, but I think the more they lose a grip, they are becoming a little more shrill. And I think it becomes self-fulfilling. Now, they can always change. I think at the end of the day, the New York Times still has very talented writers and reporters that when they need to do a straight news story, they can do it better than probably anybody else. They're certainly getting paid that amount of money. And to fight back against something like that for Steve, you just have to be better than them, which is not easy by any means. But, you know, maybe that's where the world could go. Somebody like an Elon Musk or others with a lot of money really start developing talent. And that's the only way you beat that sort of prestige game is you have that greater ability, that confidence in you over time. No, you're so good. I mean, I don't think there's a demand for that anymore, though. I think that, yeah, do you really need a six-figure culinary review editor? I mean, I just don't think there's a place for that anymore. There may be there once was. And I mean, this isn't the fountainhead and Rand anymore. I mean, you don't need these, you don't need these thought pieces on the architecture of this building built in the 20th century, the early 20th century or whatever. And the world sort of moved on from that and, you know, media is democratized. People could go seek that stuff out for much, much lower cost. I just think that legacy media, what they're dining off of is what I mean, that's all it is. It's just this past that they people seem to can't get this brand out of their mind when it comes to that. Yeah, not hopefully it's shifting to where I think the cultural centers of the country have shifted a large degree from say Los Angeles and in York, more to the south. Even the very liberal places say like Austin, Texas. Florida's booming, Nashville booming. Atlanta's actually had something going on for a while. I just think there's more energy beyond politics moving out of the traditional cultural centers. And then as you see other folks, like let's apply to, say, college and universities. I mean Ivy League is still very prestigious. When you look at JD Vance or a Vivic Romas, all made of both Yale graduates. You know, very impressive people can come out of those institutions. But are we reaching a point where you don't have to have that Harvard Yale Princeton next year name to prove? No, I'm very competent. I think there are people doing it every day popping up building careers just showing how good they are at this. So I think you're right that the old days of, you know, all these 2000 word think pieces about the latest fashion is going out of style. But I think people still yearn for like good, correct, provocative, interesting information. Yeah, I just, I don't know the way the titches span for these lengthy, that's why magazines have died, right? Magazine writing. And I didn't really realize this until the Bubba Copeland episode, because I don't really hadn't been reading a lot of magazine stories, but all these magazine reporters are trying to like talk to us about their stupid pieces. And if you'd read them and you'd be like, this is like not very great writing or reporting. And there's nothing new here. You're, you're mixing your tenses. You're, you're not, I mean, and these are prestigious magazines, you know, 20 years ago, where the go to, it's a dying art. And I just think the world's moved on from that format. No, I think you're, I think you're on a percent right about that. I think there'll always be a one for, you know, good words and put in a very good way. But I think you're right, attention spans are slowing down. Or if you do have a longer attention span, which I think I kind of do, you can go to the three hour podcast, or you can listen to the, you know, 20 hour series on this history subject. Fair enough. So there, but it doesn't have to be through the gatekeepers. Joey, we got to get out of here. Folks will define you online. How can they do so? At the Joey Clark on Twitter X and Joey Clark, ladies and gentlemen, Joey, thanks for making time. Thanks, chef. All right, we'll be right back. This is F. Talk one, two, three, four, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, And when I reach the other side, I'll find a place to risk my spirit in my... Welcome back to the Jet Force Show. If I'm talking 106.5, thank you for staying with us, Todd. This Wednesday morning, 251340106 is the text line. If you need to be in touch, comedians want to be right to the following. If you're complaining about the rest, you lost. That's not true. I could complain about the rest, even when you win. Do you really think Tim most wouldn't have to bait last night, comedian, else want to be? I mean, a lot of people are saying he won. I don't think that's subjective at all. I think you just say, if you say he won, then you're just a toady for the Democratic Party, or he just, you know, but objectively, and then the point is to win a debate trophy. Points to win the election. But if we're trying to figure out who won a debate trophy last night, and then you have judges, it wasn't a great performance. Not that Tim also is incapable or that the left doesn't have any, with the right messenger or the right person in that spot, couldn't win a debate, because I think debates are more about appearance and more of a perception from the public than or the audience or whatever, that the actual subject matter. But I don't see how you could really put him in that place and say that he won. We'll be right back. This is F.M. Talk, one of six five. From Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach, at all points in between, an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Porsche show. I don't think he ain't done it this way. Welcome back to the Jeff Porsche show. I have to talk for those six five. Out of three begins right now. Tax slide two five one three four three zero one zero six. There's a bunch to get to here, so we'll get to those in just a moment. I don't know what's going on now. The UN Security Council is convening. There is a the for some reason we're at high alert on the Israel Iran conflict. I think this I'll tell you what's going to happen here. If you were listening yesterday and by virtue of what Iran did is only going to make this, I think eminent. Joe Pollock at Breitbart News explained it and he spends a lot of time in Israel and especially in these the military zones and these these buffer zones knows that really well knows the people on the ground in Israel and the IDF. What he says is this that by Israel by eliminating Hamas and Hezbollah, which are were have been may still be threats to Israeli security. Um, by eliminating them, that's sort of part of the Iranian proxy defense like Iran. Iran is an aggressor, but they also are very, very paranoid. It's a paranoid state and there is a paranoia about Israel and maybe it's ginned up by the theocracy, but it might exist and exist into theocracy. But this is the way they validated their assistance to these two groups, these two terror groups, was that they would keep Iran, I mean, they would keep Israel in check. That was part of Iran's defense. So like what we do, we got to take the fight over there to them or it comes to us. This American foreign policy, the last 20 years it seems, the justification for all of these foreign and take a little bit has been, we got to go abroad and fight it over there. So does it come to our hold by? Well, with Israel, I'm not saying this is justified, but this is the way I ran views it, is it has Milan, Hamas, or part of the Israeli defense structure. And that's why they bankrolled them. Well, now those two entities have been decimated. Their leadership has been wiped out. They're they're on their heels. So that's number one. Number two, a lot of this Israel's reaction really does matter. It really doesn't matter to us. The US likes to think of itself. We like to think of ourselves in America as sort of like the people who everybody's looking toward to win approval. The world's policemen. We are, you know, the fair and just arbiters of whatever. And that yet to win our approval before you act. That's a little overrated because we're Americans and we watch a lot of American media, but it's it is true with regards to Israel. And the Israelis probably won't have an opportunity like this politically in America for, you know, while where you have a Biden administration, a late book by the administration is hot, you know, that I don't think it's the best friend to Israel. And if Harris wins, I don't think that gets any better. And if Trump wins, it will be better, but maybe not as good as they would like it. Like Sandra and George W. Bush. But right now, neither side of Democrats or Republicans can't afford to take a real bold anti Israel stance regardless, because I think the public is I think the public here is on the Israeli side. Now, I think some of the elites want just a stable situation. They don't care about right or wrong. They will stability because economically it is the best path forward. But right or wrong. And that's a I think that is so subjective. I know. But in the eyes of a lot of Americans, Israel is right. Iran is wrong. Israel. Israel has the opportunity before November, November 5th election to hit Iran and take out a lot of different things. Politically, so you got this you got the situation where the proxies have been eliminated that are working against Israel that will be a make rolled being enabled by the Iranian regime. And you have a political situation in America, where neither side, particularly the Democrats are really going to come out forcefully against whatever Israel does, because do you think Biden gets up there? Come on, Harris, the vice president of the United States, get up there and they say bad, bad Israel, you can't do this, which is maybe what you're thinking. But publicly, they can't do that. Don't get creamed in the election or at least maybe they don't get creamed. I don't know. But they're fearful of that. They don't want to go down this path of having to come out against Israel. So it behooves the Israelis to act. They got a narrow window here about a month to hit Iran, hit Iran hard. And that's where we're heading, I think. Pat says we get a left wing mayor mobile. A left wing mayor mobile will be Birmingham in five years. I don't think so. I think the difference, and this is like gets back to this historical legacy of mobile compared to barbecan, all my bills never going to let that happen. The ballots in mobile, there's there's a balance between the mayor and city council. It's why Sam Jones didn't turn. Mobile it to Montgomery or Birmingham. And it's why Sadie steps and didn't turn mobile into, I don't know, whatever name me, a right wing city. There's not very many of those Coleman or something. Not that he's down with the right wing, but why it wasn't fully realized and that direction. And it's just the balance in Mobile, Alabama. And the legacies and the power structure and the history. And it's like I said, it's all complicated. And this is just me kind of viewing it from afar. I may have lived in Mobile a few times in my life inside the city limits. I kind of have a grasp of it, but not as good of a grasp to be probably commenting on it like to the extent that I am. But Mobile hasn't done what other cities do the gravitation. I mean, you didn't have the exodus from the city of Mobile during desegregation like you did in Birmingham. There is a fidelity to the history of Mobile that is it's multi-generational. And that's why you don't have this demographic shift. I don't think Mobile ever becomes Birmingham, at least not in our lifetimes. There's not going to be this mass exodus of Mobile for West Mobile, for Sims for Sarah Land for the Eastern Shore or wherever. Like there was a Birmingham in the 70s and 80s for Hoover, Mississippi, Homewood, Mountainbrook, etc. And Montgomery started to feel that right now. Elmore County, Prattville, Latupka, Pike Road. There's an exodus underway. I think maybe there's some geographic challenges that would keep that from happening. And so people are so wedded to Mobile it keeps it from this that crazy plunge toward like this lettering woke ideology that I think Birmingham and Montgomery are kind of suffering through right now 172 vacancies in the Birmingham Police Department. That's insane. Are all of those characteristics of Mobile reasons for living in Fair Hope? No. Fair Hope was just a teeny story about Fair Hope and my decision to live here. My wife, the first time she ever visited Fair Hope, I had to sound effect by accident, but it seemed appropriate. There was a Ted Cruz appearance during the 2020 election, no, it had to be 2016 election cycle. Early 2016 before the Iowa caucus, Ted Cruz came to Daphne. And we had just moved maybe a year or two earlier. We just got married and then we moved from Washington, D.C. We're living in Arlington, Virginia. And we moved to Destin, Florida. And we came over here for that event, Ted Cruz, who was still working full time at Breitbart. And we stayed downtown and had to hand it in there. And she got to fell in love with Fair Hope. And what like we didn't like, oh, let's go check out see what Mobile has to offer her Daphne or wherever. It was like that was the goal. That's true story, by the way. And I just kept getting back into more and more back into the Alabama game. So what like I got a job at Huntsville on the radio and the way that was kind of going, it was it was fine. But then COVID came and they were forlowing and my previous boss, my prior radio boss, Dale Jackson was like, you may want to keep that resume handy. And it became a situation that I was like, I'm not really, I'm not really good with investing in buying a house in Madison County with this sort of precarious situation going on. So for whatever reason, Charles Sullivan made a mistake of hiring me and that's where we wound up here. Because you can't, you can't be like the Alabama guy and run, well, the time you ever knew, but now I'm running 18, 19 news. And I live in Alabama. So this is how we ended up here. It was a long process, but it didn't have anything to do with the characteristics of mobile or anything. It wasn't like, well, should we do mobile or Fair Hope? It was just, hey, the wife like Fair Hope, Preston, you Carol would be a big mistake. Jerry Carl would bring a lot to the table, but my choice would have been Lavon Mansey, a kind smart man who cared for the people not their political party or ethnicity. A lot of Mansey and I went way back. They wrote about this in lady app right upon his, the right upon his death. And it was weird. I'll tell you what happened. Like, you and I went to South together. So we go, we went way back all the way back. We were in college together. And we're both a little older than our classmates. Man's working on my second degree after graduating Auburn. And he had done some other things with his church and what not. But he was in the student government association. He was a, he was a, he was a senator in SGA there. And he came to me just kind of out of the blue. He'd come talk to me time to time, but came to me out of the blue when he first decided he wanted to run for school board. And said, uh, yeah, what do you, what do you think? And I'm gonna tell you, I was a, I was a jerk. You're crazy. You're going to get clobbered. You can't run. This late. Well, this isn't like a college of whatever Senate seat. This is you're running against the power structure of mobile. They're not going to let you just waltz right in. I was like, well, yeah, well, so I told him he was crazy for running. He was going to get beat. But yeah, I'll help and then we, I helped him design some of his campaign, very first campaign signs at the, uh, this was probably, uh, back when I was kind of learning about graphic design and stuff, because I was running a college newspaper too. And it was, it was all simple, like clip art stuff. Anyway, a goes off wins that race. I was like, wow, okay. But then I moved to DC, but we always kept in touch. And he runs for city council. And then we had some interactions in between them. But anyway, I had to pick that up on the other side. We'll be right back. This is the Jeff Four showed up and talk one of six five. He said something. Just glitter and shine. Child instead of love. Lost the one thing, but it didn't matter that it never was. Don't you see? I'm a dinosaur. I should've died out a long time before. I'm pretty on a dinosaur. And in my hand, welcome back to the Jeff Four showed up. I'm talking one oh six, five. They should stick it around on this Wednesday morning, 25 minutes after the hour. Back to my love on swim. We're wrapping up real quick. Cause I got a long winded there. I tend to do that, but I guess that's useful if you're in the spoken world format or radio. I love on manji. And I kept in touch, even throughout my time in DC, like we would meet up for coffee or whatever. And I got back to mobile. It's like I said, Sean hired me into 2020, like just the late summer. I think it was August of 2020, maybe July somewhere in there. And we reconnected. And like one of the first that I had no idea why I was here. My wife was still she was parking in Tallahassee, but got a press release of a candidates for him. What's the mansion at the old dolphin way? And I went down for that. And there's levon manji and he's running against William Carroll for his seat on the council. And he's in a wheelchair. And I was like, well, what happened, man? He's like, no, no big deal. And he's like, I'm still going to win this race. I got this. Don't worry about me. And we taught for a while. And that was it. I mean, like a few a couple of weeks later, he dies unexpectedly. And William Carroll goes on to win that city council seat. But like he and I, it's like this unlikely friendship from the goes back to the south Alabama days. And we always kept in touch. Even though we had very little in common, other than kind of an interest in what's going on politically. And we talked shop a lot, but like it wasn't like we had much else in common. And then that happened. Always, always glad to talk levon manji there, Preston. Oh, see, Jerry Carl for mayor says on the texture. I got a text message. I have to read this on your show or eagle, though, a name texture. Damn yakey, Mr. poor, that Mr. Poor's issue. Culture change is always when culture changes our democracy has a change with the culture. I mean, when you talk about mobile itself, the culture doesn't really change that much, though. And yeah, there's fads that come and go. And there's there's different things that lead to, you know, different like crime or whatever. But like the basic foundation of mobile Alabama and I'm not talking about any of the surrounding areas, but mobile and the culture is very solid. And I Birmingham is different. Birmingham only came around it after the civil war, guys. Birmingham was like the intersection to two row roads with iron ore and cold nearby to make steel. And Birmingham's not an old city. Montgomery's a little older, a little different there. There is an old Montgomery and there's an old Birmingham from before the the growth of Birmingham. There was there were settlements there. But like there's no historic legacy of Birmingham, like there is mobile and this stood to test the time going back to the early days of the explorers. And it mobiles an old city and you compare it to like a Savannah or Charleston or whatever you like. But that's what makes the politics different. Because it's multi generational. It's it's trailmades and Midtown and genealogy and Spring Hill and all of that. You can combine with like your typical big city, inner city, urban strife or whatever you want to call it culture. But it keeps the mobile from shifting in a direction and becoming like Birmingham. Michael ask is community notes full Quinn's new burner phone. I think a quid Hillier is the one that got away. Donald Trump broke a lot of people and then done this October 4th will change everything. How many shots across the bow does this world need? We are experiencing the walls of Jericho only a modern day to fence your thoughts and blessings your word. Thank you for that. Don 2, 5, 1, 3, 4, 3, 0, 1, 0, 6. If we have time, we should have timed into the program, but we should have time at the end of the program, but Billy Shaw in the day, but Bill's out of the battleship. So no handoff, but we'll get more of your text in. Let's get a break here. This is Jeff before showing if I'm talking about 0.65. Mrs. Sydney, blessed Grace Land whispers to me. Carry home, carry home sweet southern comfort. Carry home. Play me a song 'cause I slept in the sun. Like I'm so drinkin' money, turn up your dog bro. People said it was useless, and people on the pool. Welcome back to the Jeff Porte Show. What if I talk about 0.65? Thanks for hanging out with us on this Wednesday. What's left to this Wednesday morning? Something I didn't do in the last segment, programming note coming up tomorrow. A couple of guests to be named later, as I have not done my due diligence and booking guests, but Apiary Fogle as well are Thursday regulars. So please tune in for that. But joining us now, regular on the program, always a delight. For some of us, some of you will probably turn off the radio, but we hope you come back real soon. The official Democrat response of the Jeff Porte Show, Parker Griffith. Later on, Congressman, last night, Tim Walz wanted to be. Did he? I don't know. My impression watching it is that JD Vance is slick. He's a good talker. I can see why he was appealing to Trump or Trump and others. He was reluctant to answer a question directly, and I think that's a debate technique. I don't know, but that was a negative. If Walz wanted, it would be on a technicality, I think. I'm glad to hear you say that, because the lesson for me is always it's baked in. I don't think these debates matter much, but if you're watching Sean Handy or you're watching Rachel Maddell last night, they're going to tell you what you want to hear and that you're candid. That's exactly what happened. The exception is always going to be that June debate with Biden, and in the MSNBC, freak out right after that debate that clearly there was something wrong there, but that's the exception and not the rule. Look, here's the thing. You're trying to win an election not a debate trophy, so that's why I don't think these debates are as important, but I guess for guys like you and I kind of talking about it, but one thing that JD Vance got out of this, I think he's been so unfairly portrayed by the media, and I think that he's kind of breaking away from that brand somewhat that he's like having sexual couches or whatever, and he's just weird. He's just a normal guy that went to Yale. I mean, maybe it's been spent some time in some of that rarefied air. What a Yale Ivy League degree will get you in this world, but beyond that, I mean, he's not any, he's about like he's some kind of alien weirdo or something. No, I think he has a history like everyone has a history and he's adapted to his environment into circumstances and it done very well. He thinks well on his feet. I think JD Vance's difficulty is that he has to defend Trump and that's difficult. It's even difficult for Trump because if Trump thinks that he says it and sometimes that can create a situation where there is no defense and Trump has gotten some pretty bad advice about eating animals and JD did not do himself a favor by getting on that bandwagon or starting it up and I think that's hard to defend. I think it leaves a bad taste in not partisan American, not partisan Republicans or partisan Democrats, but normal independent thinking Americans don't like that kind of thing. We know we did it to the Irish. We know we did it to the Jews. We know we did it to the Indians, the indigenous Indians, the Asian Indians. We do it to every minority, but to have a candidate or a high office represent the United States internationally with hate speech, that's hard to defend and I think JD did as well as anyone could do under the circumstances and when the direct question was asked, did Trump lose or win the election? It was not a good answer because there's not a good answer. Yeah, but like it sits this though to me, Congressman, they change the rules and you can make the case. I will say that that the election didn't go because they moved the goal post or whatever, but here's the deal. Like if you're explaining and it takes more than like two sentences you're losing and that's absolutely that's why Democrats keep bringing it up though. That's why they keep talking about it because they know Republicans are vulnerable there because most Republicans present company included don't think that Democrats want to think fair and square. They change the rules. I think they change the rules in the state of Pennsylvania, the favor Democrats and the way they vote up there. So I mean, but but you know, that doesn't matter. They change the rules and they won the election. So yes, but you have to caveat it and when you start doing that, it becomes this like kind of slippery slope tricky thing to do. And I don't I don't think at this point, I hate to say it. It's just not a winnable debate. I agree. I completely agree. And two, if you're you love politics like you and I do and many of your listeners do. Listen, it's a nasty game. They're not rules. Rules are made to retard the mediocre in politics. Nobody thought follows the rules Republicans don't Democrats don't. Whatever it takes to gain power, it's going to happen. I think we're going to I think in October, which we're in, from now until the election, this is going to get nasty. You're going to hear you're going to hear stories about this and stories about that. But I think 90%, maybe 85% of America who are going to vote have already decided who they're going to vote for. Oh, I think it's higher than that. I don't think there's that many votes up for grabs. I think it is. And this is I mean, we're at the stage where who's got the better ground game? Who's votes the voters are going to turn out? I know all the policy points have been argued. Everything has been argued. And, you know, at this point, you're either trying to depress turnout on the other side or you're trying to inspire turnout on your side. I agree. I completely agree with you. It's a it's a turnout game right now. It's a money game. How effective is Trump's media? How effective is Kamala's media? It's going to make a difference. The thing I hear up in my neck of the woods is that gas like myself, businessmen, they're leaning on leaning toward Trump. They don't like Trump. They know Trump is a classless individual that doesn't have any belief system. But he is not going to raise taxes. And he is going to keep the tax breaks that he initiated in place if he wins. So there's so many people that don't like Trump that are going to vote for him, such little economic reasons. Now, is there an equal number of others who don't necessarily like Kamala? But they don't like what Trump did with the Supreme Court and that they don't like what the Supreme Court did. That abortion issue does not go away. Alabama proved that over and over again. America's approved. I tell you something, Congressman, because you got you got your your foot on the neck here on the the Democrats do with regards to abortion. And so it's changed. And I think it's this that maybe the cultures change and people have moved on from that issue. But I also think this about Republicans and abortion. They're too wobbly. They're not there. Their positions not really rooted on something philosophical about when life begins. I mean, I, you know, either your pro abortion or you're against abortion. I think if you want to be a Republican and you can be a pro choice Republican, but let me say this real quick that they have abandoned. I mean, this is historically going back to Reagan. They have abandoned some of them have abandoned the pro life absolutist position. And that that's, I think that's become a problem for the Republican party. It is. It makes it very hazy. It's not clear. It's, it's asking a Republican. What they believe is like asked in a Democrat what they believe or what they think the Democratic party stands for. What does a Republican party stand for? Well, it used to be conservative, smaller government, not intrusive, et cetera. That went away. Well, on the Republican side, the Democrats are all over the map in what they believe. So I don't think this election is going to be about policy or beliefs. I think it's about turnout and who do you like, who emotionally who do you like. And I think, but I am impressed that it's neck and neck in these critical states. I mean, you know, we can't bet legally on politics in America, but, but the UK can. So if you want, if you want to see some automakers, just pull up odds of who the next president is going to be a UK news and you'll see how close they're calling it. And we can see how close some legitimate pollsters are calling it. I don't know. Well, tell me, tell me something here. And this is why you're on this program from your perspective. What happens if this Iran, Israel situation escalates? And I mean, yeah, World War three or whatever. But what does that do to domestic politics? How do Democrats respond to something like that? Well, first of all, Iran is not a welcome neighbor in the middle. It's seen as a Persian company or country. The other members of the movies out there, including Saudi Arabia, doesn't like Iran worth a damn. I mean, they don't like each other. Dubai doesn't like Iran is by itself. And you can see it only making friends with Russia or North Korea, etc. Iran, I think made a mistake sending missiles into Tel Aviv because Netanyahu is an individual who is not trying to be reelected to anything. And he is a warrior of the first order. And you can see from the destruction that he created, or actually it was initiated by the Palestinians or Hezbollah. It's not going to be a World War three. Russia doesn't want any part of it. China sure doesn't want any part of it. Saudi Arabia is not going to come to Iran's side. Dubai is not. Egypt certainly is not. Iran is a theocracy. And it's failing. Right. But here's the way. I mean, this is the way it's been explained to me. I mean, Hezbollah and Hamas were proxies for Iran, and we always view them as aggressors. And they were aggressors. But the reason Iranians were invested in them was because they were they were part of like Iran's national defense. If Israel had to deal with them at home and you know, a paranoid basket case, theocracy like Iran, always worried that the Israelis are coming. They saw Hamas and Hezbollah as like proxies for their national defense. But those two those two entities have been eliminated. And then like, here we are. And I think what Israel does, they had to get the approval of the United States. And just, I mean, a lot of places in the world don't have to deal with that. But they really do. It does matter what America thinks when regards to what Israel does. I think right now, in the middle of this, in the middle of this election cycle, Congressman, that this is Israel's chance. They're going to hit Iran because they know the Biden administration has to be real careful here. The way they talk about Israel, because it's it's not a winner or loser for them. There's no good path forward for them with the Democratic base. The Republicans will feast on it if they come out against Israel. And this opportunity may be gone on November 6, but until then, this is their chance to hit Iran and hit them as hard as they want. And I think it's imminent. It could very well be. And it's just strategy on Israel part. It's going to have the full backing of the U.S. supply lines, oil and gas, et cetera. Nobody going to come to the aid of Iran. What we think of is the Middle East, and they're all big alike, and they're all radical as long as et cetera. That's not true. Iran is an isolated Persian company country, really unrelated to Saudi Arabia or Egypt. They made a mistake. You can see how Israeli intelligence and its ability to guide its military is superior to Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, et cetera. And Israel is armed to the teeth. And they're smart people. They're aggressive people. They have not forgotten what happens when you turn the other cheek. They're not turning the cheek this time. And unlike you, it's going to happen this afternoon, tomorrow, but it's going to be a bumpy road. Congress will get to leave it there out of time, but always appreciate you hopping on with us. Yeah, great. You got to stay safe later. Former Congressman Parker Griffith, the official Democrat response. We'll be right back. This is FM Talk 1065. [Music] Welcome back to the jetport shoulder 5th talk 10065. They just stay with us on this what's led to this Wednesday. Real quick to the text line takes tremendous effort to keep mobile from going to way of Birmingham since any steps that did not automatically end the partnership he had negotiated between the city and the human rights campaign when asked to do so. Building pressure took a lot of effort and it had to build over time. I mean, it's easy, but it's difficult to change the city, the way to go in the direction of Birmingham. It's difficult because you would never have a groundswell of like a grassroots movement to push back against the HRC in Birmingham. You just wouldn't. I mean, it's a liberal place, but here you have a more diversity of political views and a lot of different other things that I went over. Jeff agreed, Trump says a lot of things, and he is thinking sometimes just like old Parker Griffin. Well, he's retired, so I guess he could say whatever he wants, Parker, that is. Gary, Jeff, this guy bumped his head. Anderson asked your guest on the radio why they took votes away from Trump in two states, namely Arizona and Georgia, then talk about winning the election. I have screenshots from my phone named Texture Walsh was a nervous Snelly. He looked like a deer in headlights. I can't stand that laughing hyena Griffith. Gene, you can't be pro life and pro IVF. It's so sure you can. I mean, when the embryo attaches to the uterus, Gene, I mean, does it? I mean, you know, we play fast and lose with the definition of life all the time. And Gene, for whatever reason, you, if you want to be pro life, you tell me what pro life begins. When does life begin, Gene? Like, let's have a real philosophical debate about this. David, the main thing I took away from the VP debate, who I could see being a member president, it could happen. And I feel that Senator Vance will be the most capable leader, solidifying the best ticket. And then finally, Parker, some of the major difference within how conservatives and liberals vote when he said that the election will depend on who you like. The rules 10 to base. So the emotional base decisions that could serve 10 to a reason logic and competence. All right, that's all for me. The day mobile coming up, shot out at the battleship today. So stay tuned for that. I got a slide. I got a glide. I got to get on out of here. I will try to do better tomorrow. Sorry, Phyllis. I forgot to say goodbye. This has been the Jeff before showing up at the talk. 106 five.