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JD Vance ATE UP Tim Walz at the VP Debate
JD Vance absolutely crushed it at the Vice Presidential debate against Tim Walz last night. Let’s look at some of the best moments and media reactions to the night.
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- 03 Oct 2024
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We're gonna run it back, back it up like a Tonka truck and talk about what happened between JD Vance and Tim Walls. And I am so excited to say right out at the gate, JD Vance won, okay? He won that debate. Now I couldn't say the same about the presidential debate and you know, it was a tough watch. It was tough for the whole nation on Kamala's part, on Trump's part, but we have a comeback kid in JD Vance and he really stepped it up and he showed up and he showed out, okay? So we're gonna talk about all that before we get into it. Of course we have Taylor and Nashville. Hey, yeah, my boy JD holding it down for the bearded blue-eyed boys. How about it? Love it. He ate and left no crumbs. He, oh my gat, he is the Riddler of America. Am I doing this right? Anyway, yeah, great time. I got my herbal tea ready to go. Let's get into rehashing this whole thing. Yes, we are gonna get straight into it. You know what, as I said, I guess my overall thoughts, Tim Walls was not ready. And I think he knew he was not ready. There are reports now coming out that he told, he showed up told Kamala, you know, "Hey girl, about this debate. "I'm not the best debater, okay?" And we got to see that with our own eyes last night, although he did really good, you know, comparative to Kamala Harris. The one thing I thought to myself when I was watching this debate and I tweeted this out was like, why are the vice presidential candidates more articulate than the presidential candidates? And it was really shocking to see the difference between what we saw with the vice presidential debate and the presidential debate. I mean, absolutely shocking. But in a good way, because I'm happy that we've sort of done some work. We've gained some ground here in these public debates and Tim Walls went down. He wasn't prepared. He felt a little scared, nervous, yet overprepared at the same time. And he doesn't seem like a guy who can really go off the cuff while while JD Vance seems to be trained in that area. And it could be the law degree that did that for him. I can imagine that that's really helping him on the stage as he's addressing all of these issues. And it found, it seemed to be that Tim Walls was really getting to address what Kamala Harris presidency was going to look like. Meanwhile, JD Vance was sort of on the stage to defend Trump and defend his prior statements rather than being asked about his record and his experience. But we're gonna go through some of our biggest moments and highlights. First, we're gonna start with Tim Walls and some of the interesting things that he said last night. Now, this one's going viral. I've become friends with school shooters. Let's watch this. - So I've become friends with school shooters. I've seen it. Look, the NRA, I was the NRA guy for a long time. They used to become friends with school shooters. I've seen it. Look, the NRA, I was the NRA guy for a long time. - I had to watch it twice. You know, I really, it was racking my brain, trying to figure out what this good old knucklehead was trying to say. It's the self-proclaimed knucklehead, which trying to say last night when he says he befriends school shooters. I'm gonna be charitable here. I think what he wanted to say is that he befriends school shooting victims because he's gone on to say, you know, I'm friends with David Hogg and the people who were, the students who were involved in the Parkland shooting. And I think that was the direction that he was trying to go in. But he stumbled over his words there. And instead of going back and correcting himself, he let the moment just live out there in the open air. And people have tried to get him to address this since then. He addressed it in one news clip where he said, "I'm friends with David Hogg." But he also had this moment. (indistinct chatter) - Just thought, I think what you do today, but we've got to see a contrast. And I think the ending sums it up in the democracy which is important to us. - Governor, you said you become friends with school shooters during the debate. You were clarified what you meant on that. - Can you clarify what you meant when you said you'd be friends with school shooters? - Not her saying it louder as if you didn't hear. Can you clarify what you meant when you said you were friends with school shooters? And you know what, as I said, I'm going to be charitable. If anybody needs a friend, it's a school shooter, okay? I think injecting a little bit of friendship into a school shooter's life is probably going to do a lot of good for them. It's very interesting that Tim Wallace has befriended them after the school shootings. No, I'll let him live, it's okay. I think he misspoke and I will give him that. We're going to move on to other moments where he didn't misspeak. He just put out lies into the world. Taylor, do you have any other interpretations of the school shooting comment? - No, I mean, this is Mr. what did he call himself? What was the word he used? Oh my gosh, this is for me. - He's a knucklehead. - Yeah, this was knucklehead, he got a knucklehead. I find it interesting that they replaced one, you know, verbal gaff that is walking in the form of Joe Biden with another old white guy who, you know, seems to be hapless and prone to verbal gaffs. And like you said, he apparently warned Kamala Harris and going into being chosen as VP, that he was not a good debater, which, you know, there was Josh Napiero, governor of Pennsylvania, that was rumored to be a leading candidate to be chosen. And she overlooked him, some say, because he was of a certain race or something like that. We, I guess, will not know, but the choice of Tim Walz was strange whenever she came out and said that he would be her VP, kind of like, what does he add? Some have said that he is the first ever American white DEI higher as a VP. And, you know, when you put up a performance like he did last night, it's hard to argue with that because it doesn't seem like he was chosen for his eloquence, at least we can say that for sure. - Yeah, it seems like more of an optics choice. And, you know, to be fair, he's gotten through the debate. I guess he's over the hump as far as that goes. And he probably will never do this again, I don't think. And many reasons why he may not do this again. One of them is that he's gonna get called out on lies that he's told in the past, including having been at Tiananmen Square on a very fateful day. Let's see what he had to say about lying about his presence at Tiananmen Square on, you know, you know the day. - Those are the things that I think are the values that people care about. - Governor, just to follow up on that, the question was, can you explain the discrepancy? - All I said on this was, is I got there that summer and misspoke on this. So I will just, that's what I've said. So I was in Hong Kong and China during the Democracy protest, and from that, I learned a lot of what needed to be in governance. - Thank you. - Those are the things. The awkward just. Turn it away at the end. I was in China, went in during the, you know, yeah. Just to describe him, I'm a knucklehead. Hey, I'm just your average knucklehead, which is literally a quote from Tim Walz. He says, I'm a knucklehead, and sometimes I get caught up in the rhetoric, but this is not the only time he's been caught up in the rhetoric. He said that to have his children, that his wife underwent IVF in vitro fertilization, that was in fact not a lie, although she did go through fertility treatments. She had to confirm that she did not go through IVF. He also said on the debate stage last night that his 17-year-old son, witness, is shooting. Now we're getting some reports, allegedly, that the shooting actually happened outside the rec center that his son was in, and that he may have not been a witness to the shooting itself, although they had a very nice cordial diplomatic moment in JD Vance looking at him and saying, you know what, I didn't know that your son witnessed that. And now I'm thinking was JD Vance trying to like call him out a little bit and say, I didn't know that your 17-year-old son witnessed that event, I don't know, a speculation. But, you know, they had a nice moment in it. And he said, you know, I'm so sorry that that happened to you. I'm so sorry that that happened to your family. And before we get into some more Tim Walz lies, we're gonna mix in some JD Vance highlights, okay? Now, the agreement in this debate was that there was not gonna be fact-checking. I think we can guess why that agreement was made. When we watched Trump and Kamala Harris debate back and forth, we saw one candidate get fact-checked by David Muir and Lindsey Davis, and that happened to be Donald Trump. Kamala received absolutely zero fact-checks, even though she was able to lie a tremendous amount on the debate night. So it seems like they went into this debate with CBS News with the sort of agreement that, hey, we're gonna hold off on fact-checkers. Moderators are participants in the debate only in the sense of moderation. And maybe you are not actual candidates on the debate stage that are vying for the election here. So maybe you don't get to do your one-sided fact-checks on a candidate. Well, CBS News, they couldn't handle themselves. They had to try, and they did try to fact-check JD Vance. But as a lawyer, and with his background, he said, no, no, no, no, I'm not gonna let you do it. And we've seen him do this in the past when he goes on the news, and he says, wait a second. Are we gonna have an interview? Are we gonna go back and forth? Or are you trying to debate me right now? 'Cause I can answer the questions that you have for me if you're giving them in good faith. But I'm not gonna sit here and battle back and forth. And this time, he decided to truly battle. - Governor, and just to clarify for our viewers, Springfield, Ohio, does have a large number of Haitian migrants who have legal status, temporary protected status. - Well, Marta, thank you, Senator. We have so much to get to. - Marta, I think it's important because-- - We're gonna turn out of the economy, thank you. - The rules were that you guys were gonna fact-check. And since you're fact-checking me, I think it's important to say what's actually going on. So there's an application called the CBP-1 app, where you can go on as an illegal migrant, apply for asylum, or apply for parole, and be granted legal status at the wave of a Kamala Harris open border wand. That is not a person coming in, applying for a green card, and waiting for 10 years. - Thank you, Senator. - That is the sanitation of illegal immigration, Margaret, by our own leader. - Thank you, Senator, for describing the legal-- - And just look at Tim Wal's face. This is Jesus. He looks like he's struggling to keep up, and he's like, whoa, whoa, this is not supposed to get out, but let's keep watching. - We have so much to get to, Senator. - Those laws have been on the book since 1990. - Thank you, gentlemen. We want to have-- - The CBP-1 app has not been on the books. - It's since 1990. It's something that Kamala Harris created, Margaret. - Gentlemen, the audience can't hear you because your mics are cut. We have so much we want to get to. Thank you for explaining the legal process. Nora, thank you, Margaret. - And they cut the mic at the exact wrong time. And I think what happened is they just cut JD's mic, so Tim's mic was still picking up the fact that JD was saying that Kamala Harris actually created what we're referring to right now. So we still got that last moment in, which is exactly what you needed to be able to fact check the fact checkers. Now, a lot of people on the left are going after JD Vance and saying a candidate who's reminding the moderators of the rules of not fact checking is just a candidate who doesn't want to tell the truth. It's just a candidate who wants to be able to lie openly. No, I think JD Vance recognizes the bias that exists on these news networks and is trying to really reel it in so that we can get the actual facts to the American people and he didn't let it slide. And that's really what we have to practice. In any sort of engagement with people who are trying to disagree or fact check us inconsistently, you have to not let it go. And he managed to do that and to stand strong and say, "You know what, wait a minute. "We are going to continue this conversation." And on the topic of immigration, he really dominated. And this is something where I felt like Trump failed in the presidential debate. He was consistently bringing up Kamala Harris's immigration record, but I don't think he painted a full picture of how immigration and illegal immigration at that is impacting our country. And of course, on the other end of Trump talking about immigration, what ends up going viral is the Springfield, they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats, all these different things. And they're making music out of it, they're remixing it, which we can talk about the complaints from the residents of Springfield, Ohio about these Haitian migrants, grabbing animals and eating them and all these things. But I think when you're conversing with somebody, and specifically when you're speaking to the American people, it's better to paint a broader picture of how this is impacting them rather than a very specific example here. And JD Vance manages to do that on the topic of immigration last night. - So we've got 20, 25 million illegal aliens who are here in the country. What do we do with them? I think the first thing that we do is we start with the criminal migrants. About a million of those people have committed some form of crime in addition to crossing the border illegally. I think you start with deportations on those folks. And then I think you make it harder for illegal aliens to undercut the wages of American workers. A lot of people will go home if they can't work for less than minimum wage in our own country. And by the way, that'll be really good for our workers who just wanna earn a fair wage for doing a good day's work. And the final point, Margaret, is you ask about family separation. Right now in this country, Margaret, we have 320,000 children that the Department of Homeland Security has effectively lost. Some of them have been sex trafficking. Some of them hopefully are at homes with their families. Some of them have been used as drug trafficking mules. The real family separation policy in this country is unfortunately Kamala Harris's wide open southern border. And I'd ask my fellow Americans to remember when she came into office, she said she was going to do this. Real leadership would be saying, you know what? I screwed up. We're gonna go back to Donald Trump's border policies. I wish that she would do that. It would be good for all of us. - Ooh, ooh, okay. You know, a lot of people on the other end of this debate, saw a lot of women calling JD Vance hot. And I gotta be honest, I don't quite understand that, but these responses, they're coming in hot. Okay, I'm feeling a little heat, okay? Obviously, immigration is my number one issue. So the fact that he's just boom, swing in home runs and talking about this. I'm so happy to hear it. And that's what we need more of, because it's gonna be an issue that impacts us so deeply. And it's an issue that Kamala Harris and Joe Biden could have fixed in the three and a half years that they were sitting in office. So that needs to be something that we are reminded of consistently, they have a horrible record on this issue. And these moderators, were you silent or were you silenced by JD Vance on that one? Were you silent or were you silenced? And all these women are saying, "Oh, JD Vance is so ridiculous "how he calls the moderators by their name "and is talking to them directly." And he's mansplaining, which we're gonna get to some clips about that. I'm sorry, he was being direct, he was being cordial, he's being diplomatic. And it is good to attribute the statements that people make to them. So when he says, "Margaret, you said this "about illegal aliens and about children." That's what we have in the transcript, isn't it? And he's aware of that, I think again, because of his background and law and his degree. He's not letting them slide, brother. He's not letting them slide. (laughs) - Yeah, and I think a big part of the appeal that you're talking about of JD Vance, especially toward women last night, I mean, for one, it was kind of clear that he came into it with a strategy to appeal to moderates and probably women, which is the weakest demographic of the Republican voting base. So he had a very clear sort of intentionality behind his demeanor and how he spoke. But I think it was appealing because he exhibited confidence and sort of a strong masculine presence, but also a softness. People were talking about even down to the selection of his tie color, being like a softer red, maybe even a pink. And I think he was able to connect with people because he didn't come off as this sort of hapless, dumb Disney dad, male feminist, soli latte type of energy that you often see. On the left, that guy like Tim Wal's kind of typifies if I'm being honest, but he was able to still come across as gracious and meek and willing to engage and show compassion at times, but also uncompromising and clear minded and clear in his words and very eloquent. So I think that that combination of like, I'm not just gonna be brash for brash and the sake. I'm not here to try to dunk on anybody, but I'm also not going to step down from telling the truth. I'm not going to talk down to people just because I can. He really chose his strongness to use his strength and strong statements in a very kind of measured and precise way. And I think that that's just a good read and it's a good look. And it's people long from more of that in our politics right now because it's become such a clown show, so polarized, so much dunking on one another and at hominem and it was refreshing to see still strength, but also using it in sort of a measured way. - Yeah, 100%. And we did get a $50 super chat. I'll go ahead and read that, no problem. Dalton says, how dare I stop by these past months and not drop a super chat? Hope this compensates, thank you Dalton. Thank you guys for all that you do. Also, I've been so hyped for this debate and Vance exceeded my expectations. Yeah, I gotta go ahead and put out a public apology to J.D. Vance, 'cause one of his first picked as the VP, I was like, ah, no, where? Where are we going in this direction? Optically, there's so many different ways we could go with this, but now that I've seen what the man can do, he has proven himself over and over again and any time where they try to put a pit in the ground for him to fall in, he just jumps right over it and yeah, exceeding expectations, I think, is the exact way to put it, which I think is so necessary, especially with the previous debate performance that we all witnessed. So yeah, what an interesting time. We're gonna continue with one more clip on immigration where Tim sort of baits and switches, or J.D. sort of baits and switches, Tim Walls, saying that he agrees with something he stated. Tim just said something that I agree with. We don't wanna blame immigrants for higher housing prices, but we do wanna blame Kamala Harris for letting in millions of illegal aliens into this country, which does drive up cost him. 25 million illegal aliens competing with Americans for scarce homes is one of the most significant drivers of home prices in the country. It's why we have massive increases in home prices that have happened right alongside massive increases in illegal alien populations under Kamala Harris's leadership. Now, to all. - Brill, yint, brilliant, and for so many reasons, Tim Walls, you see his perk up as soon as he heard, wait a second, he's blaming my girl. I gotta help you, I gotta say something. Well, then signed the bill. You mean the bill that had hundreds of billions of dollars going to Ukraine and Israel, the bill that was packed with all this stuff, the bill that was unnecessary, because through executive action, you could have fixed what was happening at the border and decided not to. In fact, you decided to roll back everything that Trump had put in place that was keeping illegal immigrants out of this country. And instead of saying they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats, he says it's affecting your home prices, it's affecting your communities. Everything is going to skyrocket because they're letting people into the country and they're changing our system, which not every American can connect with, whatever is going on in Springfield, Ohio, every American can connect with rising prices, with the economy being impacted, and with people who are not contributing to this country in more ways than one, coming in and taking up resources, and that is what people need to hear. Now, is this debate gonna change anybody's mind? I don't know. But it was our best foot forward to achieve that goal. And Tim Walz consistently lied, and JD Vance stayed on him and told the truth. We're gonna move on to the subject of abortion, which of course is a heavy hitter this election cycle. Everybody's talking about Roe v. Wade, and Tim Walz has taken a pretty permissive view on abortion in his state of Minnesota, and he gets called out for that, specifically the idea that in his state, babies can be born out of failed abortions, and the doctor has no obligation to do anything for the living child that is now exited the womb. - You're free to disagree with me on this and explain this to me, but as I read the Minnesota law that you signed into law, the statute that you signed into law, it says that a doctor who presides over an abortion where the baby survives, the doctor is under no obligation to provide life-saving care to a baby who survives a botched late-term abortion. That is, I think, whether you're pro-choice or pro-law, that is fundamentally barbaric. And that's why I use that word, nor is because some of what we've seen, do you wanna force Catholic hospitals to perform abortions against their will? Because Kamala Harris is supported suing Catholic nuns to violate their freedom of conscience. We can be a big and diverse country where we respect people's freedom of conscience and make the country more pro-baby and pro-family, but please, you're free to disagree with me on this. - She throws it over to him and it's basically like, please, tell me what your bill says. Tell me what your bill says. And Tim Walz repeatedly leans on this idea, oh, it's been fact-checked, it's not true. It's been fact-checked, it's not true. That's never happened, it's not true, it's been fact-checked. I don't need to tell you what my bill says in it, even though you're calling me out. And this, you're on the back foot, really, if you're JD Vance, because not only do you have to contend with whatever attacks that Tim Walz is going to throw at you, but you also have to contend with the attacks on Donald Trump. And that was consistently what he was asked about. What about what Donald Trump said, you know, this last debate? What about what Donald Trump said on this date? What about Donald Trump's actions on January 6th? Instead of being asked about his record, what he plans to do as vice president, it was more of like, how are you going to handle the dog that is Donald Trump? And now Tim Walz has been fact-checked, this was actually posted by Meghan Kelly. Tim Walz did repeal the law that protected babies born alive after failed abortions. And here it is, five babies died in Minnesota after they were born alive due to a failed, induced abortion in 2021. So why not just be honest about what you're saying? And it puts into light, you know, Donald Trump will go viral for saying these, I guess, crazy statements. And then you do a quick little Google search and you look into it. It's not so crazy after all. I think he fails at articulating the severity of these situations and articulating him in a way that lands on ears that are not prepared for the way that he speaks. But did he tell a lot? Did he tell, put your hand up if he told a lot. You see how both my hands are now? Okay. (laughs) Now they also had to address January 6th. And, you know, it's the ongoing attack that the left gives to the right. January 6th insurrection, overthrow the government, not a peaceful transfer of power. What are you gonna do when this election comes around? And if you lose, are you gonna call election fraud again? And here is what JD Vance had to say about that. - And it's Kamala Harris saying that rather than debate and persuade her fellow Americans, she'd like to censor people who engage in misinformation. I think that is a much bigger threat to democracy than anything that we've seen in this country in the last four years, in the last 40 years. Now, I'm really proud, especially given that I was raised by two lifelong blue collar Democrats, to have the endorsement of Bobby Kennedy Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard. Lifelong leaders in the Democratic coalition, of course. They don't agree with me and Donald Trump on every issue. We don't have to agree on every issue. But we're united behind a basic American first amendment principle that we ought to debate our differences. We ought to argue about them. We ought to try to persuade our fellow Americans. Kamala Harris is engaged in censorship at an industrial scale. She did it during COVID. She's done it over a number of other issues. And that to me is a much bigger threat to democracy than what Donald Trump said when he said that protesters should peacefully protest on January the 6th. And it's- - And oh, you are prepared for that answer, Marie. - He said I'm focused on the future. Let's move on. Let's talk about what Kamala Harris is doing. Let's talk about the possible threats to democracy that she is bringing forth in her candidacy and in her ideology. And instead of Tim Walz combating the things that he said about Kamala Harris' stance on free speech and misinformation, he actually doubled down and added on to her stance about censorship and misinformation. He actually interrupted JD Vance at one point in the debate when he's talking about this issue of free speech and said she also wants to deal with censoring threats and hate speech. So you would think, you know, if you were properly trained to get on the debate stage and talk about these things, you would try to dial down the idea that your candidate is going to stomp on people's First Amendment rights. But instead, he decided to double down and add on more. And in trying to sort of real JD Vance back in and accuse the right of censorship, he brought up banning books. And then when you look into the banned books that are no longer going to appear in the student libraries, it's pornography. It's talking about like gender theory and homosexual sex. I think kids don't need to be reading those books. So how is it that you're going to get on this stage and fight for those books to be read by children? You're not, because if you actually spoke about the content that's in these books, we would have a very different discussion. He just wanted to be able to flip the script on JD Vance, but didn't quite have the ammunition to do so. Absolutely tragic. And you can see it. - Yeah, I think it's worth mentioning here too. I saw Charlie Kirk tweeted this out about Tim Walls's point that I don't run Facebook in response to JD saying that the Biden-Harris administration was colluding with big tech to suppress people's opinions, even their humor on social media. And Mark Zuckerberg said in a letter to Chairman Jim Jordan in the House Judiciary Committee, wrote that he regrets working with the Biden-Harris administration, which repeatedly pressured met his teams for months to censor COVID posts, including satire and humor, saying, I believe the government pressure was wrong and I regret that we were not more outspoken about it. Also, Walls invoked the common trope of, you can't yell fire in a crowded theater, talking about his restrictions on free speech, that actually is referring to a Supreme Court case that was in 1919, which was just something that was said in the United States opinion, but that was overturned by Bradenburg versus Ohio in 1969. So even that common thing isn't really accurate when you're talking about the carve out for, or censoring free speech. So more fact-checking that was lacking on the part of the moderators, though they had that energy there for JD Mance. - Yeah, and that seems to be the issue with Tim Walls. He came in as like highly scripted in the same way that Kamala was for her presidential debate. And they both have this issue that when they try to extend on the script that they've been given, or when they've been thrown questions that they are not yet prepared for, either from the moderators or the candidates sitting across from them, they veer off script and they end up lying, because that is what's natural to them. The script that they've been given that's sort of is trying to switch up how they feel about these issues is wholly unnatural to them. So it's just like they're acting and then they veer off script and end up telling you who the killer is before you're through the end of the play. And he knew that about himself. Apparently he knew this was a weakness, but let's go through another lie. And it's about Project 2025. Now, if you're Tim Walls, you would expect to leave Project 2025 out of your rhetoric when it comes to this debate. People have tried it time and time again with Donald Trump and JD Vance. Donald Trump and JD Vance have time and time again, denounced Project 2025, distanced themselves from Project 2025. So I don't know what's going on over there and it has nothing to do with our campaign. Kamala Harris tried to attribute 2025 to Donald Trump when they were on the debate stage and Donald Trump said, for the record, I have nothing to do with Project 2025. So if you're Tim Walls, why would you continue to bring up the lie? Nonetheless, he did it in talking about a pregnancy, registry, accusing JD Vance and Donald Trump in their campaign of wanting to have a complete registry of all pregnant individuals to be able to track the babies and track the abortions and all these different things to make sure everybody's crossing their teeth and dotting their eyes so we can throw, you know, a woman who get abortions in jail and all these things and he's lying. He's absolutely lying. - So first let's listen to something that Governor Walls said about the conservative Heritage Foundation think tanks initiative known as Project 2025. - Their Project 2025 is gonna have a registry of pregnancies. It's going to make it more difficult, if not impossible, to get contraception and limit access, if not eliminate access to infertility treatments. - This claim which Governor Walls has made before is false. Project 2025's 900 page policy document is online. You can read it, I've read it. Nothing in it proposes to make anyone register their pregnancy with the government. What Project 2025 does propose is that the federal government takes steps to make sure that it is getting from every state detailed after the fact anonymous data on abortion and miscarriage. The federal government already gets this data from almost every state on a voluntary basis. Project 2025 wants to make it mandatory for all states but there's no pregnancy registration involved in the data collection today. Project 2025 doesn't propose to change that. And in fact, Tim Walls' own state of Minnesota already posts details after the fact anonymous abortion and miscarriage data online on the state health department website. There is no pregnancy registration in Minnesota, of course. And I should also note that while the governor referred to their Project 2025, it is not an initiative of the Trump Vans campaign itself. - Yikes, yikes, T, K, O, that is really, really tough. It's a tough thing to have to deal with when you're trying to fear monger an audience and then you get fact checked on the fear mongering. The only thing is that lie gets to live out because most people watch the debate and they don't watch the discourse that happens after the debate, but I'm still glad that people are calling him out on it and calling him out on the lies that he's trying to tell to fear monger people. That's the goal. - Yeah, and just on the fear mongering point, I think another reason we say JD Vance won this debate but I think a big part of why we say that is because he didn't engage in the fear mongering tactics that walls just decided to use by invoking things like Project 2025 and other lies. There's plenty of claims that JD Vance could have tried to smear walls with that probably have more truth to them than that definitely have more truth to them than the Project 2025 stuff about tampon Tim and the things happening with the Haitian migrants involving animals, with school indoctrination, with World War III type rhetoric, you could make a case that JD should have hit Tim harder on a lot of those topics. And yet I think the way that he chose not to be negative and not to fear monger and instead really take a more positive approach and demeanor and spin and focus on substance and being measured, really hit home with the American people. And so he won not necessarily by dunking on the other side more or better, which was what we've become used to seeing and judging in our politics, but instead he won by showing that we can do better than this and that we can be better and stick with substance. - And I think that that's just another major reason why Vance outshined walls in the debate last night. - Yeah, I think a hundred percent and what Americans need right now, you know, even though the media won't reinforce this is civility. We've lived so long through the divisiveness, through the riots, through the protests, through the back and forth, through all these different accusations being crawled in one way or the other. And what was most refreshing about this debate was to watch civility. You saw, even with both candidates saying, you know, I actually agree with what JD Vance said there. I actually agree with what Tim said there. I actually do believe that you care about this issue, where it makes sense to say those things. And we haven't seen that in a very long time in American politics. So I'm at the very least happy about that. Although you have some people in mainstream media saying that it was a little too civil last night. Let's watch. - But I think the civility that we saw tonight may be a mistake by Democrats, quite frankly. I talked to the outset of energizing this base. I was just in Ohio and many Democrats were living about what's going on in Springfield. I think Walt missed an opportunity to really push the racial insensitivity there. There was a sense of trying to be affable, as John said. And I think what we're going to see from this point on is this civility being laid aside. And as we've said, from this point on, gloves are off, I think. - From this point on, gloves are off. I mean, I go in that direction and see how that does you. You want a third assassination attempt? Is that what we're going for? You know, three times the charm there? Because you've been demonizing MAGA Republicans and Trump supporters and all these different things for how long. You've been calling them threats to democracy for how long you've been saying there. He's going to be a fascist dictator for how long? You're saying on day one, he's going to get rid of everybody's rights and he's going to kill LGBTQ people and black people are going to be dying in the streets. That rhetoric has gotten you this far, but I don't think it's going to take you any further because people are starting to realize, oh wait a second, what you're saying? It's not exactly true. And they are starved for a little bit of civility. And I think both JD Vance and Tim Walz knew that. I think JD led with the civility. Tim Walz picked it up as he was catching the vibe that was being set and he stumbled over all the traps that were mixed in in JD's rhetoric throughout their discussion. But the media always has to do a spin on things. I think it's the general consensus that JD Vance won the debate last night, even among leftists, but they have to make little digs at JD Vance and they can't make digs it in with fact checking because he told the truth. So now they're going after his character, they're going after the way he said things, his tone. Here's MSNBC accusing JD Vance of mansplaining. - I'm muting power and I actually think if you're a woman that might be the worst moment JD Vance had because he was gonna mansplain right over that mute button. He was, and again, I don't pretend to know how everyone will react to this. I think that a lot of women in positions of authority that should command respect just by virtue of that dynamic will see themselves in some dude that disrespected them and talked over, you know, I mean, there was a moment like that with the vice presidential in the Harris Pennsylvania where she's like muting power. - Please, please, this is trying. This is like you're a gymnast the way you're flipping the things that everybody's watching and experiencing right in front of their eyes. As a woman who watched that, I didn't feel mansplain too. And I actually saw this tweet, it said like every woman on earth felt that quote, thank you for describing the legal process and quote, in her bones. And that's what the moderator said to JD Vance as he was describing the legal process for people seeking asylum in the US and people getting this temporary protective status from the Biden-Harris administration to the tune of hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people. No, I didn't feel that in my bones. I didn't feel like he was mansplaining. In fact, I'm gonna venture to say, and I tweeted this back, I bet that every woman who felt that in her bones and thought that that was like a girl boss moment for calling out JD for his mansplaining did not understand the legal process. And I want every single woman that felt that he was mansplaining to send, post something on the internet explaining the legal process that he was trying to let them know about and to inform the American people about so that you can understand how an illegal invasion is happening in your country right under your nose through this country's legal processes, okay? So if he was mansplaining to you, it's probably because you needed it explained and you don't understand what's going on. I didn't understand fully what's going on and I felt enlightened to hear the words from JD Vance about this app and about how people can apply for temporary protective status. So no, I don't think he was mansplaining. I think he was explaining, especially after being fact checked and called out by the moderators. And when they muted the mic, I didn't feel like that was an empowering moment for women in media and journalism. It actually highlighted the problem that we have in American journalism where they are so biased that they won't allow a candidate that they dislike to tell the American people the facts. And that's exactly what you don't want on the other end of this debate. The saving grace of the presidential debate, even though we had whack performances from both President Trump and Kamala Harris, was the fact that the media's performance was so abhorrent. It was so awful. It was not even negligent. They were actively discriminating against Republicans, actively fact checking Donald Trump and not Kamala Harris. And that saved his performance because we had somebody to really blame in that they so blatantly were controlling the narrative and puppeteering what we saw. That's what you don't want to do in the vice presidential debate when you get the chance to run it back and talk about these issues again, yet they continued to try to fact check and muted his mic when he was telling the truth. Crazy. - Also, and he was being a total boy scout and staying completely in line, perfectly light and deferential until they broke their own rules that they set by introducing a fact check. That was the point at which he said, "Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, you can't do that." So in a way, he's treating them with enough respect to say, "I'm going to hold you to the same standard "I'd hold anybody else that I'm having a conversation with." And say, "If you stipulate going into this debate "that you are not going to fact check and then you do that, "I'm not just going to let that slide under the table "because you're a woman." And he's caught in this catch 22 where if you do hold them accountable, then you are mansplaining, but if you don't, you're a condescending misogynist. So I feel like he handled that as well as he could and in treating them as equals, of course, the feminists online still found something to complain about. But what you said about education as well, I felt like this was the first time in a long time I've listened to politicians and actually felt like I was learning something when they were talking about healthcare, when they're talking about the border, listening to J.D. Vanch especially outlining some of the nuances around policies. It's clear that he's actually worked on these things and thought about them and it made me think about, okay, well, what solutions as a voting citizen do I think are actually the best and what actually work and what are politicians actually working on, what has been proposed and kicked back in the Senate and the House. And I hadn't had to have those thoughts in a long time because what we've been seeing so much of late in the political sphere is just this debate and censorship and back and forth. And so it was really refreshing to actually have some moments where it's like, dude, I'm actually learning something watching this. - Yeah, 100%, this was overall super refreshing. And I don't know if that's a sign of how good the debate was or how bad American politics is, that this is something that we're cheering on. I don't know. You guys can tell me you can throw out your observations and how you interpreted the situation. And I'm so glad that J.D. Vanch didn't let it slide on immigration. And of course, as Taylor said, he could have attacked him walls on his record on all these different things he's done, how he's run Minnesota, the tampons in the boys bathroom, his stance on immigration, which we do have a clip that I'll show you in just a second here, where he talks about how it's so wonderful that we have the most refugees per capita in his state and that the schools have how many languages? Let's hear it from Tim Walls himself. - We have more refugees per capita than any other state. That's not just morally a good thing. It's our economic and cultural future. This beautiful diversity we see out in Worthington when I'm there, you see 50 languages spoken in the school. We have. - Okay, I don't know about you guys, but let me be real with you all right now. If you tell me there are 50 different languages being spoken in a school, I'm thinking these students are not learning anything. It's different from we offer a language program where students can learn up to 50 different languages. There's so many options for the education of these students. But if you're packing thousands of students into a school with 50 different languages being taught at the school, nobody's learning anything from differences in languages and hearing people speak in different languages, it can't be conducive to creating an education system that is benefiting each child as the education should be. And that sounds so chaotic. It sounds awful. And you can call that xenophobic or bigoted. I call it logical. It's just being practical about what works for children, what works for their development and a huge influx of illegal migrants or refugees as he wants to call them is not conducive to a healthy education for children. And that is not to say that no immigrants should be able to come to the US or we shouldn't accept refugee children. We can absolutely do that. But to cheer on the fact that you have the most per capita and you have 50 plus languages that you're hearing when you go and visit a school is insane. But this is the difference in thinking between these two camps. And a lot of people won't view that as an extreme statement. It is certainly an extreme statement. And where there are so many things to attack Tim Walz on his record, they didn't have much to go for on JD Vance. Their strategy with JD Vance was really, let's attack him on Trump's record, things that Trump said. And let's attack him on his former stance of Donald Trump, which we all know that JD Vance was a never-trumper. He did not like Donald Trump. And now, of course, he's his VP running mate. And you know, JD Vance answered eloquently and perfectly, hey, it's your guys' fault. It was the media. The media told me that Trump was Hitler and a fascist and a dictator and you know what? I fell for your narrative. Now, whether or not that's true or he came to the conclusion on his own is up for your interpretation. But the best thing you could do is flip it back on the media that has constantly been perpetuating these lies about Donald Trump painting him in a certain light and sending people out on a witch hunt. So since there's nothing to attack about JD Vance, Politico decided to do a debate analysis. And here's some screenshots from the debate analysis. I'm gonna actually put this in full screen. We need to witness this in full screen. They decided to look at JD Vance's beard and Tim Wal's eyes. Says, yes, Vance's beard matters. Vance is the first White House wannabe to wear facial hair in 80 years. Research indicates that voters see beers as more masculine. That can be positive to some. But to others, especially women, it can be negative, conveying aggression and opposition to feminist ideals. This really shows me you have no ammunition. You have nothing to go on. You're attacking the man's beard, his lineup. Really, you have nothing else. And of course, Wal's was called out for his eyes and his facial expressions. It's very, very fearful. If I showed you this image as like a psychologist of like, tell me what you'd see when you're sitting down and laying in the chair and we're sort of going through all your life traumas, I think you'd see fear in that photo without even knowing who that individual was or why his eyes are like that. But apparently, Tim Wal's wide eyes showed his passion. Eye-popping can sometimes be a sign of surprise. But for Wal's, it simply revealed his emotional intensity. Like during an exchange about abortion, the dynamic and emphatic facial motion grabs the viewer's attention. Through Wal's, it gave extra weight to his feelings and held our gaze. And that's funny. It's funny because that facial expression is the same facial expression he got when asked about whether or not he was at Tiananmen Square on the day of the massacre. So was he just really passionate about the fact that he lied about that and that he wasn't actually there? Was he really passionate about trying to clear up the fact that he got caught in the rhetoric and he's just a knucklehead, you know? It's the same expression he made when he said, "Sometimes it's just the guns." In reference to school shootings, as if an AR-15 suddenly grew out arms and legs, picked up another AR-15 and went into a school and committed a shooting. Sometimes it's just the guns. And you have to think like, okay, Tim Wal's messed up. You said the wrong thing, things come out, you don't mean to say it. He actually went on to tweet on his official Twitter page. Sometimes it's just the guns, Tim Wal's. Be so furrow right now, be so furrow on. If you gave the performance that Tim Wal's gave at a Denny's job interview, you'd be going home without a job. And we're considering this man for vice president. For vice president. Oh my gosh, I'm never gonna be unburdened by what has been. I'm never, never. - That face you make when you're hanging out with your friends who are school shooters, apparently. - Yeah, just imagine you're Denny's owner. Yeah, do you want a grand slam? Okay. Tim Wal's man, I'm not sure that this is a guy that we can put our confidence in, which is really, last night, it turned out to be, if you just analyze it on the optics, I think it was really beneficial for JD Vance for reasons stated. And that's been an advantage in the Harris Wal's campaign so far. And the first debate with Trump, the optics, Trump came off as more angry and blustery while Harris came off as insincere, but at least in alternative to that bluster and to that anger that I think is a big put off to a lot of moderates and a lot of women. And if given the choice between that and a fake butt nice sounding candidate, a lot of people are gonna go with the fake butt nice sounding person just because of the way politics and elections work. It is about vibes, about how you come off, it's about demeanor, but that I think is what was really one of the major victories of last night, even perhaps more important than what was discussed on policy was just that optical victory that JD Vance had where he didn't come across as angry, but he did come across as competent. Whereas Tim Wal's, he didn't get to claim victory just by not looking angry and scary like Trump. He instead looked hapless, he looked like a klutz. He didn't really come off as somebody that inspires confidence and as somebody that you want running your government. So I think that overall, the Vance's performance is really gonna be reassuring to a lot of people who might've been on the fence because they don't like Trump's demeanor and a lot of women who find it distasteful and uncomfortable with how Trump kind of engaged in the first debate and just all the drama that's been surrounding him. I think JD's performance was very reassuring to a lot of people who are on the fringes, which at this point in the election, we're down to the margins here. And I don't think it was this massive boon for the Trump campaign, but it doesn't necessarily need to be if it's ways enough people who are on the fence in those critical places. It could very well be something that has a big impact. - Yeah, and then you watch it. And I, you're right when you say like this is a vibes competition and in a lot of ways the, this whole election is a vibes competition and people are going off of their feelings, which is unfortunate, but it is the case, nonetheless. And if you just compare the demeanor of Tim Walz and in JD Vance, in JD Vance, you have a very calm, steady, felt like he was very much in control of the situation of regardless of what was being thrown at him, regardless of what was being asked. He remained, you know, very, very steady, very mild in his temperament. He gave those look, those Jim Halperts looks to camera when he heard something that was just like, you know, that doesn't sound about, right? As Tim was expressing and talking about things he just looked at him, he listened, he comforted him when he shared, you know, heartfelt personal stories, which of course they've both been trained to do and Kamala Harris especially as we witness in the presidential debate. And when I think about, you know, that meeting with the Taliban leaders that Donald Trump had where he went in and showed them, you know, here's an image of your house that we've obtained. And he's like, you know, don't do it Abdul. I, I, I don't know why I sound like a mob boss saying that. But when you think about that temperament mixed with JD Vance, you've got something good there. You've got something that's formidable. You got something that people, people respect and world leaders especially, the ones that are laughing at us currently respect. Can you imagine Kamala Harris and now Tim Walz walking into a room like that and having a discussion? The fear, the insincerity, the cackling, the lack of intimidation that exists between, between these two is enough alone to not support them as being, you know, figureheads and leaders of the free world. But on top of that, they lie and they deceive and they spin narratives. And there's just nothing good going on here. And you know, after these debates, they have to say, we, we won, we, we did something great. We witnessed it after Joe Biden's presidential debate performance, the winner of tonight's debate, Joe Biden. I don't even think he knew he was at the debate, but this is the winner of, of tonight's debate. You answered all the questions, Joe. Didn't you answer all the questions, Joe? Isn't that what his wife said to, said to him? And then after this debate, tonight's winner, boom, the Democrats posted Tim Walz moving forward and somebody said this looks like Fortnite releasing a new skin and I can't see it. I literally can't unsee it. This is Tim Walz Fortnite's skin. And let's be, be, be so for me right now. The gaslighting is just so insane. How you can watch that and not even be honest and just say, you know what, I'm not the best debater, but where I get him is on policy, where I get him is how I feel about the American people, where I get JD Vance and Donald Trump is that I'm not a threat to democracy. These are all things you could say if you're really being honest, but to just lie and be like, I'm a big winner. This knucklehead won that debate. It's just like, stop lying to us. It's so disingenuous. That's just how I characterize them. You're so disingenuous and nothing, nothing lands. Nothing feels right between these two. And even if you don't like JD Vance and you don't like Donald Trump, at least you know, like, you know what you're getting. It's not like some guessing game of like, is this the real Kamala, you know? Is this, I mean, is this the real Trump? Is this the real JD? It's pretty, it's pretty standard. And I'm gonna play this here. This is Joy Reid talking about violence against Donald Trump since we got the knucklehead in Tim Walz. We're gonna get Joy Reid talking about a knuckle sandwich for Donald Trump. And so I think that the people who want the fist fight are the base of the Democratic Party. Democrats want to see someone get up there and give a knuckle sandwich to Donald Trump. That's what they want. But that is not, and so I think the silence, the silence. Yeah, we want to see somebody go give a knuckle sandwich to Donald Trump, is that really the rhetoric that we should be using right now? And of course, I'm being charitable. She didn't actually mean a knuckle sandwich. She wants somebody to go out there and really get him on the issues and go after him. And that didn't happen. In fact, I think CBS and in this debate, a large was so focused on getting JD Vance on Donald Trump that, and then JD Vance is wholly prepared for that. He's been running game for Donald Trump all this time. You should have went in other directions. You should have focused on other things. There was much more to talk about and more places where you could have set traps. If that was their goal, they're gonna claim it was not their goal. But if that was their goal, focusing on Donald Trump, which is something JD Vance has been doing for quite some time and is in a great position because he disliked Donald Trump and is now on the other end of it. So he's done the work as far as reconciling his former opinions about Donald Trump. You're not gonna catch him in a point of criticism about Donald Trump. You should have asked him what he's going to be as a running mate and what he intends to do as a vice president, specifically in reference to Kamala Harris' abysmal record with getting virtually nothing done as a VP. - Yeah, we need to put Trump in the crosshairs to give him a knuckle sandwich. But who's got the violent rhetoric? And like you said, it's obviously like, okay, good faith interpretation, they're not necessarily calling for violence. But you would think that given the two assassination attempts that have been executed against Donald Trump in the last several weeks or months and the ongoing threats that we've heard from Iran about further assassination attempts, you'd think that they might tone down, refine the rhetoric a little bit there. So that clip from Joy Reid, they cannot help themselves, but sort of create this catastrophized narrative around Trump because that's ultimately all they have to run on. They can't run on their record because the substance of the issues go in the favor of the Trump fans' tickets. So all they can do is look back on January 6th. He's gonna strip away your abortion rights. He's gonna be a dictator on day one. And that's really all they can link to in the Project 2025 stuff, just over and over again. And I think Americans simply can see through it and the sincerity that Vance came across within the sincerity that Trump has for better or for worse. I think a lot of Americans were already kind of leaning towards Trump just because they don't like being lied to, they don't like feeling like they're being manipulated, they don't like having this catastrophized narrative imposed on them. But now, again, from this debate, you have that sincerity but in a much more palpable package in the form of JD Vance. - Yeah, and if there's one thing you need, it's like, okay, you want a VP pick that's maybe gonna hone in on some of that chaotic energy that Donald Trump has and JD Vance proved that in this debate and proved that he's capable of it and that he's not going to be swayed in either direction and that he just cares about the facts. So, and then Tim Walz just gave more of like cumless energy. They feel like it's kind of like looking in a mirror in a lot of ways with the energy that they give off that just feels chaotic, disingenuous, a little scared, a little nervous. - Scripted. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nervousness was something that I think was consistent between both of them and you, that can be humanizing in a lot of ways and you feel, oh, they're just like me, they get nervous in these things, but is that what you want in a president? I don't know. We're gonna close out on this clip of former press secretary, Jen Psaki, talking about the wall's advanced debate and giving her take on the performance. - Look, I felt that if you're sitting at home and you were watching and you were not fact checking and you weren't familiar with what JD Vance had said previously or what Donald Trump stood for, he seemed at many moments to be reasonable. - Yeah. - And that was clearly a change in tone and I know you all were talking about the strategic shift there. That was interesting to watch. Watching Tim Walz, what I thought about was when he emerged onto the scene, we all probably interviewed him five times during Veepstakes, he propelled himself single-handedly into Veepstakes, right? He became the running mate because of their chemistry, but also because he was so effective at connecting people authentically and organically on television. He's been absent. I think that's a huge mistake to hold him back and not put him out there. - Meaning he hasn't been on the media for a while. - He hasn't been out on the media for a while. He's been absent. I do think that's a missed opportunity, but tonight I felt like he was spending a lot of time in the first half or two thirds, proving he read the briefing materials and I was missing the magic and the organic spontaneity of Tim Walz. I know you already all talked about the January 6th moment, which I thought was great. And the moment on healthcare, also great. I loved it when he quoted the Bible and made it about morality, on immigration. But coming out of it, I hope that they free Tim Walz and put him out there and let him be rusty at times and make mistakes and hug football players and cry and be funny sometimes. That's the magic. That's why he's on the ticket. - Yeah. Free Tim Walz, he ain't do shit. He just a knucklehead. Free my man Tim Walz, let him do interviews. Please let him do interviews. Please, please, please, please, please. If you don't think it's strategic that they're keeping these two people away from interviews, I don't know what to tell you. Kamala Harris has been dodging interviews like Trump dodges bullets, as I've said before. And I guess Tim Walz has been doing the same and rightfully so because when you give these people a mic and you let them run a muck, they lie. They lie. So they're just trying to mitigate, I think that circumstance as much as they possibly can. 'Cause once you get the clip and it's out there, it's out there and people can fact check you. As much as they want to talk about fact checking and the lack thereof in this debate or whatever, the worst thing for their campaign is to give them a mic and tell them to talk, to be honest, to be honest with you. So, I mean, we'll see where that goes. I did see that Kamala Harris is gonna be doing a 60 minutes interview soon, which they're just gonna glazer, I bet. And 60 minutes is known for doing things like that. And I won't be surprised if that's exactly what we get. Hopefully they ask her some hard hitting questions. But if they do, I'm sure she'll have a script. I'm sure they've sent her the questions beforehand as it seems like they did in the presidential debates. And she'll be ready for whatever it is that she needs to say. - And I think they were trying to criticize Trump for not taking a 60 minutes debate, but his retort was, I'm not gonna do it until y'all apologize, issued an apology, 60 minutes for peddling the Russia hoax, which I think is a perfect retort. And the fact is we don't need to see that much more from Donald Trump. Him and J.D. Vance have done dozens and dozens of interviews in the last months. They have absolutely nothing to prove when it comes to being willing to face the media and face hostile interviewers. And I think that that's a major reason why, again, you saw J.D. Vance shine in this debate is because he has had the reps with hostile interviews over and over again. It was clear from the beginning, he was on defense with how the questions were formulated, how they were posed, tone and demeanor of the moderators. And even the order in which the questions were given, giving like issues like putting a political, climate change and abortion at the front of the debate to try to get those narratives out there first and give the more weaker issues for J.D. Vance, have him face those. But I think the reason why, a big reason why Tim Walz didn't do as well is, yes, because their whole strategy has been to avoid interviews so they don't have those recent media reps and they never face hostile questioning from the media. They never do an interview unless it's gonna be glowing and scripted. So I think that's a major reason why this came off how it did. - Yeah, and of course, CBS was under pressure a bit in that they had to sort of move in the more hard-hitting direction based off the performance of ABC and the overwhelming amount of backlash and controversy that ABC found themselves in because of how they handled the first debate. So all in all, guys, those are my thoughts on what we witnessed last night. I was happy to see it. It was refreshing. The civility was refreshing. J.D. Vance was refreshing. Tim Walz gave an okay performance and was ready in a lot of ways, not so ready in others. And overall, it was enlightening and good to watch a good old-fashioned political debate and not the clown show that we normally get or we have been getting for the past few years. Now we're gonna hear from you guys, read your super chats and discuss your comments. - Let's do it. We've got a bug find in my studio here. - I would freak out. - I would freak out. - You could distract the two. Minnesota Nice was our first super chatter. They're curious to hear what Alex in Minnesota thinks about his own governor. Says, "Hey there, hey, and tell you IDK Tim Walz, why Tim Walz, or how Tim Walz." We disavowed him. We don't know who that boo-boo the fool even is. - Who that boo-boo the fool even is. I don't know him. If I saw this man in the street, I would not know this man. Yeah, he's not got a great record. It's an interesting pick, definitely. And I think they were just like, they wanted this like, hokey American white guy who can really like balance out some of Kamala's energy. And he just didn't get that. And yeah, his record, luckily for him, they didn't bring up much of his record. They didn't bring up the BLM riots. They didn't bring up his immigration statements and him giving a driver's license to illegal immigrants. They didn't bring up the tampons in the bathroom or virtually anything that he's ever done as governor. So he locked out on that front. - Yeah, his military record, all the tings. Alfredo Orkey says, "Mamala, don't think we forgot about your nickname. You should give ownership of your podcast to the star of The Last Live. Wendy, your dog, Wendy? - Wendy! - You can voice over for your dog thoughts. - You know what, maybe one of these days, Wendy will be a close-- - You did a couple videos with him in your lap. - Yes, when he was just the wee baby, he's in some videos. I don't remember what the old videos are, but I think he's actually on the thumbnail of those videos if you want to check out old-school Wendy. I almost brought them in the studio today to just chill during the show, but they are so chaotic. They have so much puppy energy that I feel like they're gonna knock over the cameras or mute my mic or something. So one of these days, when they've chilled out a little bit, you will have the puppy show. - Read my name, Wendy. - You do shit, he's just a knucklehead. - He's just a knucklehead. - He gets caught up in the narrative. - So that reminds me, when you talked about Tim Walz a minute ago and how he's like this hokey thing, it reminds me, do you remember that ad that came out for Kamala Harris where it was like, we're men and we support Kamala because it was like the most out of touch thing that they did together to try to appeal to men because that's such a weak demographic for her. And like the whole thing of selecting Tim Walz to be like this, oh, look, yeah, we have white guys too. It's like white dudes for Harris that whole energy. It's just like, police, if you have to try that hard, it's just not hitting. - It's true and he's constantly referencing his whiteness and like, oh, I'm just a good old American guy. And then they do like white dudes for Harris instead of white men for Harris, which is just like so obviously you're trying to like pander to like this, I guess, faux masculine type of thing, trying and failing to be honest. - Yeah, real dudes don't join white dudes for Harris. - Sorry. - Sasha O'Neal says, happy Wednesday, rare to see Amalas O'Giddy and expressive, like a child that finally had the birthday party they have been dreaming of. - Yeah, when I was watching the debate, I was like, oh, it was getting him up. So I'm excited to bring that energy to today's show. We actually have something exciting to talk about. I feel like a win under the belts on this one. - Yeah, always fun to rehash the Ws. - Yeah. - And I'm not talking about George W. (laughing) - Shailen Minto says, hi, first time catching alive. Wanted to say thanks for the community you've built and the positive contribution to my political opinions over time. - That's so nice. Thank you for being a part of the community that has been built on this channel. Every single one of you, we appreciate each and every one of you so much. And yeah, I'm just amazed at how much this has grown and what it's become. So thank you. - Yeah, we love y'all. Timothy again says, I honestly seemed like a pretty productive debate, especially compared to past ones, with civility, eloquence, and tact. #MakePoliticsBoring again. - Yeah, 100%. And then like when politics is boring, I think there's like so many things that you achieve. First and foremost, you achieve people who care about politics actually being involved when things are boring, these more like salacious people who are looking to protest or looking to be incendiary on both sides, sort of sit it out because it's no longer of interest to them. And that can be achieved if we maintain this sort of tempo when it comes to politics. And it will alleviate so much of like the extremism and these radical people who are getting involved with things because they're being played up, because we need that in order to get attention in eyeballs. - Yeah, this honestly reminded me of like pre-Trump era politics, but it was even better than pre-Trump era politics because back then it was kind of stale and out of touch in a way that I think needed to be shaken up. And that's I think why Trump connected with so many people back in 2016, but now Trump with the different energy that he's brought and the reaction to Trump of people completely losing their minds with TDS has really shaken up politics in general and created this, just add each other's throats, polarized, dunk on each other sort of environment that I think everybody's just sick of. And I think last night really, if that's a harbinger of what's to come, then I think that we're in pretty good shape if that's what the future of politics look like and like actually competent people, a competent conversation is happening. Then yeah, I think it encourages me to, 'cause it seems like everybody's ready for that. - I second that, definitely. - Corey Willis, sorry to ask for advice again, but my professor wants me to write about two of my privileges and my discriminations. I'm so uncomfortable with this assignment. How do I go about asking not to do it? Love you guys. - Rather than asking not to do it, I would just be so real. I would just be so real about what are actual outside of the framework that they're probably expecting you to answer this question. What are actual privileges that you gain in life and what are actual points of discrimination and if it happens to be you've been discriminated against 'cause you're a white guy, right about it. If happens to be, you benefit from, I don't know, you're pretty privileged or you're over six foot tall, right about that and step out some-- - We're an American, are born in a two-parent household or something like that. - Yeah, 100%, 100%. Yeah, step out of the traditional framework and if you have a professor that really cares about what it is that you produce and how you think about things, they will appreciate that. And I'm sure they're so used to getting the same boring paper over and over again about the same things. Oh, I'm black this, oh, I'm impoverished that. Okay, give them something different and see how it goes. - Yeah, now if they are assigning a paper to do that, my hunch would be that they're ideologically bent toward the oppressed or oppressed framework of thinking and they probably won't like a paper like that, but at the same time, I think that that's a way to fulfill the assignment and maintain your integrity. And I think that that's actually a really big opportunity even though I'm sure it's a little risky and scary. - Yeah. - Yeah, good luck with that, Corey. Ryan Mitchell sends a super chat, no message. Thank you, Ryan. - Thank you. - Wind says J.D. Vance for president, 2028. - J.D. Vance for president, 2028, I guess we'll see. We'll see what happens. - Yeah, I've got it all figured out. It's J.D. for 2028 and 2032 and then it's Amala in 2036 and we'll see what happens from there. But that's what I keep seeing here in the chat. - Sure. Minnesota Nice says, "Speaking of deporting people on mass, "why didn't they talk about deporting them 304s? "I mean, this is a big problem. "I mean, unless they want to be my man." - I know Alex when I hear him, okay? We don't need to deport the 304s. They're boosting the economy. Have you seen those only fans' numbers? Have you seen what's going on there? We gotta keep them. - You've seen Amala's Hot Nanny video on the other channel? - Gotta keep the only fans' models. Essential workers, Celtic Blacksmith says, "All these ladies gettin' hot for Vance, "makes me wanna get a haircut suit and some colored contacts." Sorry, I mean, contacts of color. - Yeah. (laughs) - That's too funny. - Yeah, I didn't expect the Tim Wal's sexualization on the other end of this debate. Certainly not, but that's what we got. And you know what? - The Vance sexualization. - Oh, sorry, the J.D. Vance, my gosh. Freudian slip, do I think Tim Wal's is attractive? Am I into those scary eyes? Yeah, I know, the J.D. Vance sexualization on the other end of this is wild. - Yeah. - We haven't had a hot guy in politics in a long time, though. You know, we haven't had like a Kennedy in politics in quite some time. So maybe people are just looking for that energy. Somewhere there's a hot Republican man who's ready to take on the swamp. And I guess now it's J.D. Vance, that's all we got. - If you're out there, no. - And they have like his, you know, pre and post glow up 'cause he was looking a little rough like from his some of his pictures 10 years ago or whatever, pre-beared. It's not the most-- - Yeah, who was it? I think like one of our senators posted like a yossified version of a J.D. Vance photo. I wanna find it. Oh my gosh. Yes, rep Mike Collins, sorry, rep, representative Mike Collins. He posted this, actually you put this in full screen. Good morning, it's J.D. Vance, but that's not J.D. Vance. It's like a Photoshop image. It's like chatifying J.D. Vance. This is what J.D. Vance actually looks like and this is the picture that he posted. That is so funny. And I don't know if he did it purposefully or if he actually thought that was a photo of J.D. Vance, but that is too funny. - Hey, I gave him a jawline or something. - Yo, what the hell? - Wow. - Hi. - He's got the bold glamour filter on. - Okay, high Q says liberal men are known for being self-loathing. The problem is if you do not respect yourself, why should anyone listen to you? - Liberal men are known for being self-loathing. You mean like from a feminist perspective? They're like, we hate men. I'm toxic type of thing. - Yeah, well, just like apologizing for being a man period and because we're responsible for oppressing the world with the patriarchy and all that stuff. So it makes sense. - Yeah, we're gonna talk about that soon. There's this video of this liberal guy going viral where he does like this tribute to black women and black women are like eating him up on the internet over what he said and it's just like it never works. It's sort of like guilt, need to pat people in the back and pedestalize them. It's not a good look, you know, when you do it, to be honest. - I'm an ally. I'm a male feminist. - I love black people. - It's like friends of an energy. - Like people, yeah. - It's not respected, you see that. Like you see like, you know, just the contrast between Tim Walsh's energy and J.D.'s last night. Like Tim, J.D., even though maybe like visually, yeah, he's got the baby blues in the beard but like I think a big reason he came off as attractive was just because he was confident and competent and all spoken and still gracious and like still demonstrated an ability not to be toxically masculine by like, you know, being heavy handed with his rhetoric and whatnot, but he still came off as strong and that is just inherently like attractive. - Yep, 100%. - Wyatt Steven says, "Taylor might beloved" in a super chat and that's the only three words. - Taylor, you're beloved. Hearts for Taylor, hearts in the chat for Taylor, chat. - Appreciate ya. Need to get in. Where's my AI glow up jawline video? - Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, your beard is just showing aggression. So it's so nice. - J.D. took the beard idea for me. - Yeah, Kevin Kalaza says, "I sent my ballot through the mail yesterday and J.D. made me a happy voter #Trump24." - Oh, there you go. Hopefully it makes it to where it's supposed to go. (laughing) Hopefully, yeah, you haven't already voted along with your dead grandma in the opposite direction. Oh, I think we missed this. It was $50 super chat from GT. - My bad GT. - But there was no message attached to it. So thank you GT. - My bad GT, let me give you, let's give you the chimes for that to make up for the fact that we missed that. - Yeah, thank you. And he is from, he gave him euros. So we know he's in Europe, or he or she, sorry. - Nice, we love our international viewers. - Appreciate ya. Abigail Rose says, "I heard recently that people are most receptive to those who appear warm, makes them feel trustworthy and approachable and confident it makes them seem dependable. I think J.D. brought that energy. - Yeah, he brought like a good masculine warmth to him. Where it's like, you're gonna, you're gonna concede things were necessary, you're gonna show emotion when necessary and not when necessary. And on the other end of that coin, it's like when Tim Walz and Kamala Harris try to come off as warm, it feels trained, it feels very scripted and it ends up being very cold because if you can't, if you're not actually a warm person, if you're not actually a maternal or like paternal in that way, it doesn't, it doesn't land and it feels very cold, very clinical. - 100% Novi says that man in other states but recovery patients in with the elderly. And also New York, Pennsylvania, Michigan, New Jersey, California, let them out. March, spring break, Trump travel ban, February killing thousands, look it up, 81% of his death toll. - I don't know how to look it up. - There was a lot put into, I think it was like the character limit there that made that hard to kind of unpack. - I think you're talking about COVID. If COVID people put in, put in, put in elderly homes, is that what they're, I don't understand what's being talked about. - Yeah. - Sorry. - I know, like, you know, there was the Cuomo putting patients in, you know, elderly homes and they were the most vulnerable and it spread to them, a lot of them died and stuff like that. But then he's saying, Trump travel ban in February killing thousands, I know, I know Trump's travel ban from China actually like helped prevent a lot of deaths. - Right. - You know, but I don't know, I'm sorry, man, we can't fully unpack what you're saying, but. - More bad, our bad. - RB, JSOL03 says, I really wish JD brought up to point on Amber's case that Amala did about abortion. Oh yeah, we didn't get into that. That Amala did about how abortion laws weren't what caused her death, but negligence really would have raised some eyebrows from undecided voters. - Yeah. - Yeah, I thought that wasn't missed opportunity. I feel like, I understand him not wanting to get in the weeds on the abortion issue, but at the same time, I felt like a missed opportunity that he didn't debunk what was clearly another two laws lie. - Yeah, it does. And then I'm thinking about it, I'm like, I guess maybe, maybe from JD Vance's perspective, he's like, okay, if I get into this and start arguing over somebody who's lost their life, it's gonna come off as like bad optics to women, and it's gonna seem like I'm justifying something or trying to place blame. So his whole angle of I want to regain people's trust, and I want people to understand our position on this, and I want them to feel heard, and I've changed my mind based on my constituents, I think is a softer landing, and is more what undecided voters need than a sort of own on one specific case where a woman lost her lives, because then it becomes a he said he said, and they're going back and forth, and nobody's gonna go and Google that. - And it's over the tragic death of a woman that looks like a losing battle to get into the weeds with that idea. - Yeah. I think him saying she should have been alive, and here's our stance currently as a campaign, is probably more beneficial to who he's trying to speak to. - Yeah, and I think that reflects like his overall strategy, like he understood the assignment and really was focused on making sure of how he came across overall, rather than taking the bait as Trump did many times and getting derailed from his central message. - Yep. - But it did, you know, I personally didn't like love his answer on that question, not just the Amber Thurman, but his whole abortion, but at the same time, I understand what his strategy was, and at this point in the campaign, I feel like it was effective. I know, and his personal stance on abortion is much stronger than what he led on. - Yep. - But I think it was just a tactical choice and probably a good one. - Yeah, and it makes sense. It's no longer going to be up to the federal government, and that's where you stand right now, it is up to the state, so it doesn't make sense to come out swinging on this like strong stance on abortion, and I think him leaning into, I'm going to listen to my constituents, and the overwhelming majority of them came to me and said, "You know, I disagree with you on that." That's what people want to hear. Even though you're going to lose, you know, like the Lila roses of the world and the live action campaigners in many ways, strategically, it makes sense. - Wandering aimlessly says, by administration removed mandate for follow-up care, which is why Amber died when she says, "How dare he? How dare you, Kamala?" - Yeah, it does seem like a lot of missteps, and one can make the argument while she had to travel to in order to get the abortion in the first place, and that's what led to this sort of cascading event that led to her death, but it does seem like there was just negligence at so many different points, maybe even malpractice on behalf of the hospital that she visited when she was experiencing the infection. - Crystal Peay says, "Your thoughts on Democrats reporting inflation is due to price gouging Haitians' lawsuit against Trump, is the temporary asylum given to Haitians legal?" Question mark. - There's a lot of questions there. - There's a lot of questions. I will try to quickly go through them. I don't know how significant price gouging is as far as inflating the economy, and I think we could point to other things that have had a much larger impact, even beyond COVID, and, you know, there's all this money and relief dollars we're sending all over the place. There was all these different things that the Biden administration brought forward where we were just pumping out resources, resources, resources. So I don't know how much price gouging has to do. Like how many people are sort of taking advantage of these moments of emergency and inflating their prices to where all average Americans-- - Which is a really inflation anyway. Like economically speaking, inflation is like the devaluing of your currency because there's too much currency and circulation chasing not enough goods. So inflation doesn't just mean increased prices. If someone's price gouging, it just means they're unfairly increasing their prices because it's like there was a case of a convenience store, gas station owner charging $10 a gallon in North Carolina this past week for gasoline because there's a limited amount and people are willing to pay more 'cause they're desperate, but that's price gouging. You're taking advantage of the monopoly that you have in that case to charge somebody obscene amounts. But the idea that we need price controls on grocery stores because of inflation and it's grocery stores are not price gouging. That entire industry operates on one or two percent profit margins. So they're not gouging the prices by running off of one or two percent. And when you put price controls on grocery stores, it devastates the entire system. It devastates farmers that can no longer making the money pay for their goods. It's a horrible, horrible economic policy. And so anyway, sorry, I didn't mean to like-- - No, that'll fall right. - You can't object there, but yeah. The whole trying to blame inflation on price gouging, it's just a slight of hand to distract from the fact that they have injected trillions of dollars into the economy through the American Rescue Plan, which is really what was the biggest catalyst for inflation. We had been doing quantitative easing during the Trump administration and before the Trump administration, which causes inflation, but it was in a much more controlled way. But the American Rescue Plan and then the Inflation Reduction Act did not increase inflation, added way more money in circulation and that is why we have out of control inflation. - Oh, so there you go. I forgot what the other questions. I think it was about Haitian migrants. - Yeah, Haitian migrants are lawsuit against Trump and whether the temporary asylum given to them is legal. - I don't know about the lawsuit. So I can't speak to that, but I guess technically a lot of their TPS status, the temporary protective service, makes their presence here legal. But if people are engaging in government overreach and allowing these things to happen, I qualify as a legal immigration. Everything that's happening right now is illegal to me and could very easily be fixed by not granting a TPS to all of these individuals. I'm not gonna say we can't do it for some, but not to all of these individuals and not allowing the many crossings that are at the border. The few hundreds of thousands of Haitians that she granted TPS for is a drop in the bucket compared to all the illegal immigration that is being funneled through. - Southern border. - Yeah, and as J.D. Vance said in the debate, the TPS itself is a varsity sort of way to circumvent the actual standard immigration processes that would be legal. So it's illegal immigration that they are calling, you know, technically illegal, but it's still the, essentially the exact same thing. Except now we're paying for their airplane flight over and flying them across the border instead of letting them cross the border. So we can say that border crossings are down because we're actually flying them in now. - Yeah. - Silly. - Tricky, tricky. Renee says, "Please talk about WNC. "My hometown has been destroyed and Biden is doing nothing. "Ashville is destroyed and media won't report on it." And some Western-- - Talking about what the hurricane? - A Western North Carolina. I didn't know a WNC. I've never heard that acronym before. Yeah, I've been thinking that we should maybe do a video about Hurricane Helene. There's been like a lot of different things that have been happening on the other end of it, including like leftist cheering on the fact that this is happening in Sun downtowns and stuff like that. It's absolutely ridiculous. Now Biden claims, I think he tweeted out that they're headed to the affected areas and that the Biden administration and their team is not going to leave until everything's fixed. We'll see about that. - Yeah, but he also was asking this. He said, "We've done everything we can. "We've given everything that we can. "There's no more that we can give." And his little interview. - Right. Just like he did with Maui. - Yeah, yeah, same energy. And I feel for you guys there because I've lived through a couple of hurricanes when I lived in Louisiana, but at least in a devastating Louisiana, but at least there, they go through it fairly often in a place like Western, North Carolina, Appalachia. You have never experienced something like a hurricane that hits such an unlikely place. So there's no experience, no infrastructure. You know, like, Rhonda Sands did a great job in Florida, having like a fleet of trucks ready to go. And they really did a great job. And I know that they're actually sending age to North Carolina now, but yeah, I really feel for you guys there in North Carolina. It's absolutely horrible. - Yeah, I'm from Florida. We're used to it as well. I'm from like a landlocked portion of Florida. So it's like a little bit easier where I'm from, but it's just, yeah, it's devastating, it's scary. - Yeah, all the best of you guys. And I've seen people circulating different charities and stuff just support there and supplies. And hopefully you guys are about to say out of the deep water, but that's too literal to tell, out of the woods there in the worst of it. But I know I'm sure there's still so much to be done with restoring it, so all the best there. Charles Hearst says, "Austria-Hungary was an extremely diverse multilingual empire and their military reflected it. Look up how they performed in World War I if you want to see the effect of disunified diversity." - I'll have to look that up. Might as something to look into, I don't be honest, I'm not too well versed on that at all. - Yeah, I'm a huge history buff, but-- - The deep cut. - Of course, your Hungary pre-World War I is not something that I've looked into extensively, but there are certainly case studies throughout history that would be instructive when looking at our current time and trying to mold cultures together, I am sure. - Yep, Smithy J says, "17 year old here, a lot of Gen Z voters who never followed politics until Trump versus Clinton in which debates turned into personal attacks. I'm proud JD Vance performed well as Gen Z needs to see this from Republicans." - That's great, your way ahead of me when I was 17. So I'm glad that you're here and you're chilling and talking on the show. Fantastic point, it is what Gen Z needs. I was liking it for a long time. Gen Z, Gen Alpha, we've been watching two parents going through a divorce fighting, and now it's good to see them shake hands and the kids off to co-parent. (laughing) That's what we need right now. - Don't break up, guys. - Yeah. - Chicken Pork Dobo says, "Make beards in politics great again," Vance was a master chef during the debate. - Yeah, what's wrong with the beard? That's such a weird, it's so weird, so weird. It just shows you, I don't know, we're in clown world that you're coming after the man and calling it a sign of aggression, please. - Yeah, it gives, for me, with JD Vance, it gives this rugged Appalachia and man of the people. And compared that to Gavin Newsom with his slick back hair and his shaving face, you're like, "I don't trust this guy." - Yeah, all right. - I think for a time, it was like he needed to be clean shaving back in the day 'cause it was like beards were a little unprofessional and trustworthy, but now it just exudes more authenticity. But depends on the person too, you gotta be able to pull it off. - Definitely. - Angel Coleman says, "Hi, Amala, I've been a fan of yours since TikTok in 2020. You help me be comfortable with being a woman of color and conservative. Also have a topic you might be interested in, I'd love to connect." - Do you need a DM Angel on Instagram or Twitter? Probably the two best platforms to reach me on that. And I'm so happy that I've been some small part of your journey in learning to accept yourself and your political opinions, I love that. - I would love to hear those. Celtic Blacksmith says Tim Wall is looking like Tim Connolly in a haunted house and they wanna spin that as passion. Please, dude, was shaking like a dog shitting peach pits. - President of the Minnesota Timberwolves, Tim Connolly, as a deep cut reference for me. I didn't know that one, I just looked him up. Okay, this is a good old, oops, Tim Connolly. Okay, I mean, I don't quite get the reference 'cause I know nothing about sports, but I'll take it. In a haunted house, there might be a story about him in scary movies around the house, but yeah, man. Just the look of utter terror, it's like. - Yeah, you sound like that. - The amount you want across from Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong-un. - Yeah, for real, he looked like he was shocked by the own words coming out of his mouth. It's crazy, crazy, he's shocked by it. Sometimes I, Michael Scott, sometimes I start a sentence and I have no idea where it's going. (laughs) - I think it was just in the back of his mind the terror that he'd be asked about Tiananmen Square or his spicy food thing or his military record. - Right. - For the idea of funds, they can kids away from their parents if their gender's not affirmed. Take your pick of things that he could be scared of being asked. - 100%. - Chiduma, sorry, it took me a second, Chiduma says, if you can't use identity, seriously YouTube, to win, Chid has spelled it out strangely because I guess that was being sensitive. Can you use identity to win because they're both white male, just attacked the beard. I'm sure people are clamoring to vote Democrat now. - Yeah, I guess they're just gonna go over like, the beard, oh, he's masculine, ah, scary. His eyes are blue. Looks like a husky, ah! (laughs) Just like, there's nothing to do, there's nothing to do. He's got a lot going for it. - Yeah. Okay, I'm brushing here, one second, a few more coming in. J-S-O-L-O3 says Tim Wals is a DEI higher for VP, changed my mind. - He is, they needed a white guy in that position, that was for sure, people were already like, already saying, you know, if Kamala's gonna run, she's gonna need a white guy and then there we go, there was Tim Wals. - I don't even think it's true, by the way, but whatever. - Ah, I think they probably were thinking that. Do you don't think that she needs one to win or you don't think that they were thinking that? - Yeah, I don't think it's necessary literally, but I think that they think that because they think in terms of identity politics, now like, oh, America's all these white males, if we don't put a white male in the ticket, then-- - Right, right. - I honestly don't think most people care. Grace Porter says carrot and stick. Ironically, Trump is not the carrot. - Yeah, Trump is the stick. (laughs) - Sticks awfully carrot and stick at it too. - Yeah, definitely. - I guess that means eye candy, JD Vance is the carrot. - The Republican art club. (laughs) - It's amazing how like one little day can just like change somebody into the spotlight. - Yeah. - Monica Munoz says, "Love your channel. I started following you recently and I love all your content. You are amazing and have brilliant insight in all the topics you cover." - Thank you, that's how sweet that is so kind. Thank you, thank you. (laughs) - What's it like to like have people pay to compliment? - It's so difficult. - I mean, it's a tough life, guys. - Self-esteem, through the roof. No, I'm still, we appreciate you guys. (laughs) Legitley's belonging says props to JD Vance referring to reminding us that Democrats claimed the 2016 election was stolen. It's not just one-sided sad how we've all lost trust. Love from Canada. - Yeah, let's take a talk post for this compilation. I think it's like a 40-minute compilation of Democrats saying that the election was stolen and the Russian collusion and all these different things just stacked on top of one another. So it's definitely not a new thing to be putting out theories like that. - Chris Tetrucker said, joined late rewatching at 1.5x. Hope you all are enjoying your hump day. - I am, I am enjoying my hump day and I like that you're watching me at a quicker speed. Whenever I review my own videos before we post them, 2x, baby. I can't listen to myself at a normal pace for some reason and maybe that's messed up and there's something wrong with me, but can't do it. - Yeah, when I watch these back for shorts and timestamps and stuff, it's like, I gotta be 2x, man, let's go, let's go. Timothy W says, that governor is a disgrace to the Tim name. Don't free him straight to jail. Right away, no trial, no nothing. - Gosh, who are the good Tims we've got? - Do we happen to jail sound bite? - Where, is it, it's gotta be-- - Would you eat jail? Right away, no trial, no nothing. - There we go, we needed that. We've got some good Tims out there. There's Tim Allen, there's Tim Curry. There's Timothy Chalamet. - No, okay. - I don't know any other Tims, I'm really, I'm sorry. Sorry on that one. I got three. - You had Tim Conway now, apparently. - Tim Conway, American after-- - The Castle Beck, we're tired, quarterback from the NFL. - Timmy Turner. - I think the husband of Elizabeth Hasselbeck, who we talked about earlier in one of you. - We'll come up with some more Tims over time. - Drop your favorite Tim in the chat. Burton. - Tim Burton, Tim Scott, Tim Scott, Timmy Turner. Timmy Turner is my favorite, okay? Fairly odd parents, that's right. - All right, another one from Tim, by the way, also is it just me, or has it been almost a year since you all have been independent? I think a cake is in order. I've loved y'all since break are you. - I would love a cake. I think it's, is it past a year? It might be past a year. I think we went to September of last year. I think it was September of last year, so it is past a year. Thank you for reminding me of that. I am gonna eat a cake. I was probably gonna eat cake anyways, but I will also eat a cake. - Let us eat cake. - Yes. - Yeah, thank you. I mean, I guess it's milestone of sorts. We have no thought about it or discussed it too much, but it's, we here, we still here. - Are we still here? - Going strong? But yeah, thanks Tim. David Dawn says, "Gonna see Blair White in Nashville "on the 13th, got some VIP tickets. "Anything you want me to ask on your behalf? "You have a week to think about it." - You can just say hi. Hi on my behalf, hi Blair. You're welcome on the show anytime. Perfect. - Yeah, that's dope. - Enjoy Nashville. Yeah, you just went to Nashville, I believe. David Dawn, not too long ago, if I am not mistaken. - If we remember this correctly, if we remember your lore. - Mm-hmm, let us know. Let me know what you, what else you get into while you're out here. Well, Hakka says, "Hello guys. "You guys are the perfect example "of fact-checking for ourselves. "It is amazing how much misinformation is out there "for all candidates/issues/events. "Do your own research people learn from Mamala and Tayman." - Dude, yeah, it's so hard to keep up, too. I'm like, listen, I'm like, no, remember what, remember? No, remember in October of 2020. You're just like, how am I supposed to keep up? Like, you have to be like, remember on January 6th at 10.30 p.m. when he said this? 'Cause they just lie. Y'all just lie, please. So much energy. - You sit on a throne of lies. - It's true. - Smell like jeez. (laughing) Crazy Daisy Mines says, "Did you see the video "with Bob Good Ralph in N leading press briefing "about IHR treaty recently?" - Sorry, that was a lot, and I didn't follow any of, I didn't recognize any of the proper nouns that were used in that super chat. - A video with Bob Good Ralph N leading press briefing about IHR treaty. What's IHR? - I'm gonna have to line this up, guys. - No, I gotta like, fit everything in the character limit sometimes so it's hard, but I'm not quite trying to-- - I'm trying to walk into that, guys. - Yeah, let us know. Sorry, Crazy Daisy. Zillion Giant says, "As a foreigner, "this election is the most important event of the year. "Trump's debate made me concerned. "Vance made me more hopeful." - It's nice. It's good to be set at ease. It's good to be able to give a sigh of relief in hearing something reasonable and sound. So I'm glad that you got to experience that last night. - Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's a whole another month and a week until the election. So I'm sure we haven't seen the last dramatic twist that the writers have in store for this season. I kind of like where we are now. It feels like a pretty good place. I don't just mean like in terms of election prospects, but at least just like, I like the state of discourse. I mean, I know we're talking about World War III this past weekend with like around and stuff, but like. - We're all right. This is all the missiles and... - Yeah, and assassination attempts and craziness. - Oops. - Yeah, just buckle up. I'm sure it's gonna keep getting crazy, but we'll be here for it. Tim, Timothy again says, "If you want male politicians with hot faces "in hot political views, Google Jordan Bardella. "He's in the far right party in France with Le Pen." - Bardella. Okay, let me look up this Jordan Bardella. I'll be the judge of that. Okay, Jordan. Okay. Let's see what you're working with, Jordan. Okay. I approve. I approve this message. - All right. - There we go. - Thank you. Tim, his name's not even Tim. Ryan Griego says, "How is it that Vance was only narrowly the winner, "almost tied in the post debate polls? "Because people vote with their biases "and there's a lot of people who don't like "and no matter what he says." - Blinders, that's how that happens. - They're not all honest enough, like we were after the Trump debate to say, "Yeah, I mean, you've always tried it a little bit." - Blomp, whomp. - Oh, Zincan says, "I made it to another one." Woo-hoo, I'm so excited for this episode. I'll catch up. I love you so much. You both are an inspiration for me. Heart emoji. - Glad you made it. Love you too. Thank you for watching. - Thank you, Sabrix says, "Whoever controls the airwaves dictates "what people will believe or not believe about the election. "Even if everyone voted right, "the system could just project that it was a left win "and the revolutionaries will react accordingly." - Couldn't they just, yeah, there's a lot of power that they wield over our thoughts and what we think, our thoughts and what we think, yep. And know what we feel, definitely. - Yeah, well said and speaking of controlling the airwaves, tomorrow's video is about Hollywood and Whippy Goldberg's claim that there's no bias in Hollywood or the mainstream media and conservatives have their careers completely unaffected by such things if you're an actor in Hollywood. So stay tuned for that. - And we're gonna fact checker, we're gonna fact check. - Happy. - Keeping the fact checks going, guys. We don't have a fact free diet here. Sun Sume says, "Still here," which I do recognize Sun Sume. - I'm glad that you're still here. - I'm glad that you're still here, yep. - We were worried there for a minute. - Keep it up, keep it up. - We're glad you back. Chidunma says, "I'm LEO and working hurricanes sucks." I think that's a law enforcement officer. No days off, 12-hour shifts, but I can't imagine being in North Carolina right now, especially as they just aren't as prepared as you said. - Yeah, oh my gosh, it would be call after call and rescue after rescue and dealing with all these different altercations that are taking place. Horrible, horrible thing to not be ready for. - Yeah, and then to hear that some people are looting on top of it. It's like, dude, that's just the worst. That's the absolute worst. - Put them on the mask deportation list. - Right to jail, right over. - Get 'em JD. - No trial or nothing. Celtic Blacksmith says, "I'm a dumbass. "I got my C names mixed up, meant to say Tim Conway, "corrected, chat corrected me, "I'll never forgive myself for ruining such a clear burn." - That makes so much more sense now that I've looked up Tim Conway. Looks a lot more like Tim Walls than Tim Connolly does. But it's amazing. - So there you go. - There you go. - Gotta keep our Tim straight. - Okay. - And that wasn't a homophobic comment. Don't come for me. - Savrix again says, "Remember when I said we almost be aware "not to let our boundaries of perception "to become barriers of perception "that cannot be moved or modified willingly. "So important to remember that today." - Savrix, you always come with the heat in the superchats, always something profound, philosophically profound, and yes, do not let them become barriers. You don't wanna have all these blinders up for things that you could be seeing past them. - Open my, he followed that with a brain emoji and a lipobomoji and a thumbs up. - That's right. I know it, that's right. - That's the energy. Hayden Dawson says it's wild how the media is spinning the whole entire situation with the immigration to the Holocaust, it's wild. - Yeah, I mean, they're trying to call him, you know, a conduit of Hitler or our guests or whatever and say, you know, these mass deportations are the sign of fascism, please. Okay, we're all experiencing it. We're seeing with our own eyes, you can only gaslight us so much. - Yeah, and similarly, like what Jen Psaki said about, oh, I love how you quoted the Bible with talking about the least of these. It's like, what about the least of these of American citizens in Springfield that are not able to access their health benefits, that are being priced out of their own homes by these policies? What about the least of these of the unborn and the will and there's, you know, to bring in that scripture to justify your position that is actually very destructive to many of the least of these is, I find, disgusting. And it's like, oh, I don't talk about my faith very much. Again, just like the insincerity of the manufacture, they're trying to like invoke that co-opted. It's kind of like the Biden Twitter account will tweet about LGBTQ and Pride Month and say like, well, you know, if you're trans, you're made in the image of God, which like the scripture that says about being made in the image of God says male and female, he created them so it undercuts the whole idea of transgenderism in the same verse that you're referring to. So to stop, stop using the Bible and co-opting it in politics. It's just, it's not a good look. Anyway, I'm going to get some help. - There we go, I had fun for that. Stop, get some help. My stop it, get some help, but stop it. - Stop it, get some help. - There we go. - Troy News says I'm reading a financial support that shows our financial report that shows FEMA spent a billion dollars housing illegal aliens, the Biden/Harris management of waste, fraud, and abuse at work. - Shocker, shocker, just dollars going to places they shouldn't be going. I can't say that I'm surprised by that. - Yeah, that's kind of like spending $42 billion to connect people to broadband and zero people have been connected, which might've come in handy during this present crisis that we've got in North Carolina, which has Elon Musk now coming in with Starlink, giving it away for free, or the billions of dollars that were allocated for supercharging networks under, I believe it was the Inflation Reduction Act, which on I think only seven have been built. So you're averaging about a billion dollars per charging station for electric vehicles under this brilliant genius plan that is not driving up inflation at all. Give me, get out of here, man, get out of here. - Give me a break. - Do you even dance as I did, in fact, go to Nashville recently to do that pedal tavern with my cousin? - That's right. I'm about an hour south, so it's fairly convenient. I'll report back. - Very nice. You got fun. Have a good time. - All right, please do. - Indeed. All right, a couple more here. Aurora Bear says, my first exposure to Amla was through the Jordan P podcast from Peterson. I used to listen to it on my way to college every morning. So glad because I love your content. Love y'all, keep it up. - Aww, thanks. I'm so glad that you found us. Yeah, I bet there's so many different touch points on the internet where you guys get to the channel and find me, I'd be curious to know what those all were. Maybe you can drop it in the comments after this show, but I'm glad you found me on the JP podcast. - Yeah, always fascinating to hear where y'all are coming from, what you're listening. We just love learning, like, what are you doing while you're listening? How do you find us? Yeah, it's all great to hear. Make this two-sided conversation. Nicky Pierce just sends a super chat with no message. And was that our last one? Or do we have any other, no, that's-- - That's our last one. - We're all caught on. Nice, that was our show for today. We went over the vice presidential debate. Hopefully we kept you filled in, there was so much to cover. We didn't hit all of their topics, but I gave you my overview of what I saw, what my experience was and what my interpretation was. I'm always open to your interpretation. If you liked this video, like, subscribe, click the notification bell to be notified every single time we're live. That's Monday, Wednesday, Friday, 1 p.m. Pacific, 3 p.m. Central, 4 p.m. Eastern, 8 p.m. Universal time. And, you know, we have a video coming out tomorrow about Whoopi Goldberg, in fact, checking her on who is running Hollywood, so that's going to be interesting. As always, if you disagree with anything I said in this video, we encourage healthy debate on this channel, so duke it out, but do so respectfully. Let's be as respectful as JD Vance and Tim Walz were in their debate last night. Oh my gosh, we actually have an example in American politics. How great is that, guys? Thank you so much for watching. And I will see you guys tomorrow. [BLANK_AUDIO]
JD Vance absolutely crushed it at the Vice Presidential debate against Tim Walz last night. Let’s look at some of the best moments and media reactions to the night.
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