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Doctor's Guilty Plea Reveals Matthew Perry's Fatal Ketamine Connection
(upbeat music) - Welcome to "Listen To." This is Ted. The news was published on Thursday, October 3rd. Today we're joined by Eric and Kate to discuss a recent case that's making waves in Hollywood and the medical community. - Hey there, Ted. Thanks for having us on the show. It's great to be here to dive into this complex and troubling case. - Hi, Ted, and hello to all the listeners out there. I'm ready to get into the nitty gritty of this shocking story. - Our topic today is the recent guilty plea of a doctor involved in distributing ketamine to the late friends, star Matthew Perry. Let's dive into the details. Eric, what can you tell us about this case? - Well, it's a real doozy, Ted. Dr. Mark Chavez has admitted to conspiring with another doctor, Salvador Placencia to supply ketamine to Matthew Perry. This whole shady business started around September, 2023, just a month before Perry's tragic death. It's like something out of a crime drama, but unfortunately it's all too real. - That's right. But let's not forget the most crucial part here. Perry died primarily from the effects of ketamine. We can't just gloss over that fact. - Hold on a second, Kate. While I agree it's a dangerous situation, we need to look at the full picture. Ketamine does have legitimate medical uses. It's an anesthetic and is used to treat depression. The real issue here is the illegal distribution. - Are you seriously defending these doctors? Perry's assistant allegedly administered the drug shortly before his death. This is a clear-cut case of medical malpractice, plain and simple. These so-called professional- - Now wait just a minute. I'm not defending anyone's actions here. I'm just saying we need to consider all aspects of the case. Yes, what happened was illegal and tragic, but jumping to- - Let's take a step back here. Can you explain more about ketamine and its effects? It seems to be at the heart of this case. - Sure thing, Ted. Ketamine's no joke. It can cause some pretty nasty side effects like trouble speaking, killer headaches, and spikes in blood pressure that it'd make your doctor's eyes pop out. It's definitely not something you want to mess around with without proper medical supervision. It's like trying to juggle chainsaws. Sure, it might look cool, but one wrong move and you're in big trouble. - Exactly. And that's why it's so absolutely appalling that these doctors were supplying it so carelessly. They were putting Perry's life at risk with every dose. It's like they were playing- - Now hold your horses, Kate. While I agree their actions were illegal and dangerous, we shouldn't jump to conclusions about their intentions. They might have genuinely believed they were helping Perry. It's not like they were cackling in a dark alley- - Help by giving him a dangerous drug. That's ridiculous. They were clearly just in it for the money. Stop making excuses for these criminals. They're doctors for crying out loud. That's pure speculation, Kate. Let's stick to the facts. Chavez admitted to having ketamine on hand after filling a fraudulent prescription for 3,200 milligram lozenges earlier that year. That's the real issue here, the fraud and illegal distribution. We can't just assume- - The real issue is that a beloved actor is dead because of their actions. How can you be so cold? These doctors betrayed their oath and Perry paid the ultimate price. They're nothing but- - Let's put this in a broader context. Can you think of any similar cases in Hollywood history? - Well, Ted, this whole mess reminds me of the Michael Jackson case back in 2009. His personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, was convicted of involuntary manslaughter for administering propofol and anesthetic as a sleep aid. It's like déjà vu all over again, isn't it? Hollywood stars, doctors crossing lines and tragic endings. - That's a good comparison, Eric. But I'd argue this case is even worse. At least Murray was Jackson's personal doctor. These guys were just drug dealers with medical degrees. They didn't even have the excuse of a long-term doctor-patient relationship. They were just in it for a quick buck, celebrity be damned. - Now, hold on a minute, Kate. That's an oversimplification if I ever heard one. Sure, both cases involve the misuse of prescription drugs, but there are important differences. Murray was directly administering the drug while Chavez and Placencia were supplying it. It's like comparing apples and oranges. Both fruit, but different beasts entirely. - Does that really matter? The end result is the same. A celebrity dead from drug misuse. You're splitting hairs when we should be focusing on the tragedy. These doctors-- - How does the Michael Jackson case compare in terms of legal consequences? - Well, Ted, it's quite a contrast. Murray was sentenced to four years in prison of which he served about two. Chavez, on the other hand, is facing up to 10 years, so potentially a much harsher sentence. It's like comparing a slap on the wrist to a knockout punch, legally speaking. - And rightly so. We need to send a message that this kind of behavior from medical professionals is absolutely unacceptable. These aren't just random people off the street. They're doctors who took an oath to do no harm. They should be held to a higher standard, and the punishment should reflect that. - I agree the punishment should fit the crime, Kate, but we also need to consider the broader issues at play here. Why are celebrities turning to these extreme measures in the first place? What's wrong with our healthcare system that drives people to seek out these dangerous alternatives? It's like treating the symptom without addressing the disease? - That's just deflecting from the real issue. These doctors broke their oath in the law. They should be held accountable, period. Stop trying to muddy the waters with all these what-ifs and may-be's. - Accountability is important. I'm not denying that. But so is understanding the root causes to prevent future tragedies. We can't just keep slapping band-aids on bullet wounds and expect things to get better. We need to look at the big picture. - Looking ahead, how do you think this case might impact the medical community in Hollywood? - I believe we'll see stricter regulations on prescribing and distributing controlled substances, especially to high-profile individuals. This could lead to better oversight, which is great, but it might also make it harder for people who genuinely need these medications to get them. It's like tightening a bolt. You want it secure, but overtighten and you risk stripping the threads. - Good, we need tighter controls. Doctors shouldn't be starstruck and give celebrities whatever they want just because they're famous. This case should serve as a wake-up call to the entire medical community. No more special treatment for the rich and famous. Everyone should play by the same rules. - While I agree some changes are needed, we have to be careful not to overreact. Overregulation could harm patients who legitimately need these treatments. It's a delicate balance like walking a tightrope, lean too far in either direction, and we risk falling. - Harm patients, what about the harm done to Matthew Perry, to Michael Jackson? We need to protect people from unscrupulous doctors who are more interested in cosy-- - How might this affect the relationship between celebrities and medical professionals? - I think we'll see celebrities becoming more cautious about who they trust with their medical care. They might seek out more reputable established doctors rather than those willing to bend the rules. It's like they're finally realizing that the brightest star isn't always the north star. Sometimes it's just a plane flying by. - They shouldn't have been seeking out rule benders in the first place. This case should make celebrities realize they're not above the law and can't buy their way to whatever drugs they want. It's high time they came down from their ivory towers and faced reality like the rest of us. - That's a bit harsh, don't you think? Many celebrities face unique pressures and health challenges that we can't even imagine. We should focus on providing better support systems, not just punitive measures. It's easy to throw stones, but harder to build bridges. - Support systems? They have more resources than anyone. What they need is accountability and consequences for their actions. Stop coddling them like they're some special breed of human. Accountability, yes, but also compassion and understanding, addiction and mental health issues don't discriminate based on fame or wealth. We need to approach this with empathy, not just judgment. It's like the old saying goes there, but-- - Well folks, it looks like we've reached the end of our time. This case certainly raises a lot of complex issues about celebrity, medical ethics and accountability. Thanks to Eric and Kate for their insights and thanks to all of you for tuning in. Until next time, this is Ted signing off from Listen 2.