Grant and Danny
Full Show- Thursday, October 3rd, 2024
Good Thursday afternoon. Welcome into Grant and Danny. It's October 3rd, 2024. You are listening to the fan. Excellent show lined up for you today. Commander starting center Tyler B. Oddish joins us in 90 minutes at 3 30. We're giving out tickets to the cap's home opener in two hours at four and we've got tickets to see death tones. We'll give those out in four hours at six o'clock right here on the fan. Danny, how are you? I don't want to sound very well. I don't want to send anything inflammatory. Remember, I agree with all of you and I disagree with the people I'm supposed to disagree with. I like what you like. I'm on your team. However, I need the kids to be in school. We have a no school thing today and a no school thing tomorrow. That's a no for me, dog. Here's my platform. Vote, rue in no election. I'll never run ever. But here's my platform. When the grownups are work, the kids are in school. But Danny, what about when the grownups are at work? The kids are in school on work days. They're all so school days. Grownups are off. Yeah. Send them home. Let's go to the to get the haircut. Let's go to the grocery store. Let's go to the playground. By all means, let's have a nice weekend. Let's get Airbnb somewhere. But when those grownups go to work, you know where the kids go? You got a court. You got it every time. There's one to one. There's no deviation. When the grownups go to work, the kids go to school, grownups go to work and the kids go to school. It's a little rhyme you can remember. I've got to thank all the people that reached out to me and who have wished me well for the prayers, the thoughts, everything means a lot. I fell going up my steps yesterday. Yeah. And I scratched my finger. I didn't know how you wanted to dress it. If you want to just get out of the way, top of the show, it's it's the, you know, it's the big elephant in the room here. A little bit of blood show that show the cameras on YouTube. Some skin was peeled. I can look at it. I am wearing this band aid right here. If you want to watch the show, you can do that on the one oh six, seven, the fan YouTube stream. Initially upon my medical tests on the sideline right after it happened, you go on the blue test, they said there's no way you're coming back out. None. No way we see you again. Pretty sure I overheard Pam Oliver saying she's never seen anything quite like it in 34 years on the sideline. I'm here today and in show business and as a hockey guy, that next shift is yours. Show must go on. So not all heroes star in the Avengers. I am here. I will be here all show long for you guys. I'm doing it for Danny. I'm mostly doing it for Darrison Ryan because they're counting on me. Yeah, but I'm also mainly doing it for you guys. So I don't, it's the immediate factor. So you don't know. It's always, we struggle to quantify things historically, but I'm so I'm trying to have some perspective on it. Right. Talking about your injury and what you're dealing with. Well, I'm overcoming yeah, the braveness I'm showing. I respectfully, I would still go Ronnie Lott amputating the top of his finger. One debatable, but fine. You too. Jordan flu game. Three. Okay. I'll say I'll accept the term. So Ronnie Lott still to this day, Ronnie, do you have a top of your pinky? No. Why? I cut it off to keep playing. That's one. You're number two. As an aside though, like stick aside, the worst thing that can happen in terms of minor nothing burger. No one feels bad for you injuries is whatever this is. Yeah. It's one thing to scrape your finger. Yeah. The thing where like a little bit of a chunk, but you can't do anything about it. Just like, he's got leaves you just sit there and it's just open air and if the band aids not on it, then it feels like somebody's stabbing at the entire time. Oh, yeah. Again, I'm making a little bit of a joke, but I am super annoying. I am definitely feeling it at all times. Well, there's, there's, and this is not the same, but last night it's totally true. I bit my tongue harder than I've probably ever bit my tongue. It's on the left side when I think it was my canine. This guy right here. I think got it somehow. And I screamed and everyone's looking at me at dinner. Like, what is the matter with you? I'm like, just leave me a little shut up. It's still bothering me. So, but like, you can't see it last night and you're here. Yeah. The courage. Right. And it's a talking mechanism that you're displaying and nobody like you, because no one can see it. You're just going like, Oh, I'm so sensitive. This really is bothering me. I just want to let everyone know that I'm that I'm in pain and I was like, quiet. People are having fun. Today's about perseverance on the gradient radio program. A congratulations is in order to Jaden Daniels. This is not a surprise in any way, but he was named the NFL offensive rookie of the month. Another one. That is what happens when you are named the rookie of the week three times. Another one in four possible weeks of football. And this is what happens when you have 24 scoring drives and only 19 in completions to this point on the year. This is what happens when you punt once in three games. Daniels completing about 82% of his passes, breaking NFL records in that regard. The player of the month among rookies, the offensive rookie of the month is Jaden Daniels, who sets the pace for this rookie class, 100% well deserved. The start to his career, the start to his pro regular season game journey has been beyond anybody's expectations. And it would be one thing if everyone else at the ground running to of Killa Williams had started the same way, just slinging it around the yard, 300 yard passing game is multiple touchdowns or, you know, someone had done what Justin Herbert was doing or CJ Stroud was doing last year at this point. And nobody is. So even given the way the league is changing, the way the league is forcing, I would say more mature passing, meaning it's not just pat the rock, sling it down the field and see what happens. Yolo, it's cerebral, smart, check it down, close to line of scrimmage, read and react, get it out quickly. He's one of the fastest to get the ball out of his hands. Good decision making is there. The coaching staff is accentuating that and working in a really smart way. It's his award, obviously, and he deserves it. But you share it with, with the context, you share it with everybody else. That's a around the league not doing anywhere near as well as you are. And B, a coaching staff with a with a good smart plan to accentuate those the first month has gone as well as it could have absolutely all expectations have been met or exceeded. And almost everything that could have happened offensively as either gone as planned or better. So it's just hard to not be really, really excited as they get ready for the Cleveland Browns as favorites at home on Sunday. We'll talk to center Tyler Beaudish who's yet to be flagged for anything who is part of a offensive line that ranks number one in run blocking and number eight in past blocking. According to ESPN's metrics, four games into the season. He's going to join us coming up in about an hour and 20 minutes to your point. Everyone's had a share in this thing. The receiving room has played well. The tight ends have been good. The blocking at the tight end position's been fantastic. The O line, the coaching staff, Daniels himself, the running back room. I mean, it's just in everybody's eating kind of situation right now. And it's been a really a lot of fun to watch. I saw something online last night that brought a smile to my face. My lips were filled filled with smile. Today marks the first of 55 days. Do you know what is going to happen for 55 straight days? I believe we don't have a day or evening as it were without a football game starting today. And for the next 55 days in a row, there will be a football game on either by way of college or the NFL that you can watch. You probably have to have a bunch of apps, but most of us do anyway. If you got a smart TV, you can probably watch those. There'll be a couple little test your boundaries. There'll be like a two lane, you know, New Mexico state game, you know, at midnight somewhere. This is always my favorite part, though, of the fall when this happens. It's go time. Grab that seatbelt. Make sure it clicks and let's get ready to rock and roll. Grab that catch that beautiful butterfly, pal Thursday night football tonight. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the Atlanta Falcons, plan the NFC South Rock. I don't know what's better for Washington here. I would imagine you pick a team that you think wins that division and you want them to win so that there are fewer South teams theoretically with a good record that you're competing with for the wildcard. And if that's the case, then you probably want the bucks to get to four and one. They'd be the favorites pretty heavily in the South rather than two, three and two teams and the potential for three if the Saints were to win this weekend. All tied for first place, but should be an entertaining game. Falcons favored narrowly at home against a bucks team. It's actually been better than them this season. So the line's a little bit interesting. Yeah, I want to get back to that in a second, but just in terms of rooting for, to me, it's Tampa and it's not close because that's easily better for Washington. It's like, it's not quite the college football adage where anybody who beats you, you want them to run the table so that your loss looks better in the eyes of voters. There's no voters. Obviously in pro football, but if someone's going to win that division, you'd like the leader in the division to win that division, especially because they already beat you. You're quite literally trying to take away another potential spot from somebody else. The NFC South winner will go to the post season. What I mean is if you think Tampa is going to be good, then you want that. If you don't think the bucks are the best team in the division as an example, like the Falcons a few weeks ago coming into the year, I didn't really get it. But a lot of people had them as the NFC South favor. I did. If that is the case and you still think Atlanta's the best team and they got off to, you know, the bad week one start with cousins coming off the Achilles offensively, you know, they could have won the Kansas City game. They didn't. If you think when it's all set and done, they're the best team in the South, then you shouldn't know on Tampa Bay to get off to a four and one start because for the same reason we're talking about with the commanders beating the Browns, it starts to get really hard to not imagine a team winning nine or 10 games. It's the same thing for Tampa Bay. So I think it's mainly going to come down to just what do you envision the bucks being the rest of the way? Right. And so I guess that's, that's a fair counter. My vision is the bucks of the best team in that division. It looks like it. Their loan loss is a really bad loss. Yes. I mean, they were gross. They played terribly. They played a Denver team that's not good and they lost 26 to 7 in a putrid performance, but their wins are very solid. They dominated Washington. They beat Detroit. I thought they got outplayed in that game. It doesn't really matter. You don't need style points when you beat a team like the lions considered the best in the conference. And then they doubled up the Eagles this past weekend. They beat a vulnerable team. I don't know if the Eagles, the Eagles weren't good last week. I still think the Eagles will be good, but they're not yet. And they did what you should do. They beat the brakes off a team. They're better than big game for the Falcons though. They're at home for the second time in two weeks. They snuck out a win. They probably shouldn't have against the New Orleans Saints this past week on a final minute field goalie got down the field via PI and then kicked a young way, cool game winner from like 55 yards. So they got that win. If they can win this game, they would be three and two with a near win against Kansas city as the only loss in their last four games at that point and then Carolina and Seattle coming up on the schedule. So a nice opportunity for them to possibly get to four and two if they could beat Tampa Bay. Interestingly, their only two losses would be against AFC teams at that point too, which would really help that is about as tiebreaker friendly as it gets. I know it's truly to start thinking about that, but look, if commanders are going to be good and they're three and one trying to get to four and one, we might as well start looking at some of these conference wild card friendly type games through the lens of what Washington might want. So they played Tampa twice in four weeks here, which is kind of crazy, right? So they open up Tampa tonight. Do you like that or not? So I like it when it used to happen ever until like five years ago. I like it at the end of the season. When you get all your conference games in going to go to your division games in that way, you sprinkle one earlier, but for whatever reason, their chunk is in the middle of the season. So it's Tampa, Carolina, two divisional games, then Seattle, then Tampa again, another divisional game, Dallas divisional game at the Saints. They in their last, I think it's six games or seven games. They only have one divisional game. So you used to seeing that like we stack the divisional stuff at the back end. They're stacking theirs in October, early November, I still don't feel though in the NFL about the games really close together. We've seen in the last couple of years, I think Washington did this once actually, where they had a game against the Giants a bi-week and a game against the Giants. That was that twice. When I was a kid, that never happened. You would have a game against the team in the first four to five weeks in your division. And then you'd have one in December, basically. You wouldn't see them for long periods of time, but there's normally one or two times every NFL season now where teams are separate, play twice in three weeks. I don't know that I love that. I don't love that. So at the end of the season, I could sort of get down with that maybe, but the giants by giants, that was stupid. Don't do that. Separate it by at least two games. You know, you play a team once in, you know, five weeks or twice in five weeks, I can sort of deal with that. If it's kind of, you know, down at the end of the season, right in the middle, I found it utterly bizarre. But anyway, but to Atlanta, specifically, they're, it could be glass half full glass F M two with them, right? They've been in every game, right? They've lost every game or won every game by a score. It hasn't seemed great, but they found away a couple times. So maybe you kind of go, okay, if we get our footing, we could be the best team in this division or this is what we are. It's a coin toss every week. It's going to come down to one possession. He's Danny. I'm Grant. You're listening to the fan teller be oddish today at three thirty in those tickets to the cap's home opener right here at four o'clock. Jaden Daniels is Jersey is the number one selling Jersey in the national football league. I saw somewhere and I don't know if this is true that he also has the second highest selling Jersey over a short period of time based on the other color like you could go white, you could go burgundy, whatever point being the guy is right now the biggest star in the national football league and you cannot turn on a national shouty show where they're not doing some topic about where he ranks and how good he is and and how lucky we are in Washington, which is a fact. We might have found the thing we've been searching for for decades. We were out on the beach, Danny, like that old guy who woke up really early with his little, you know, his beeping machine, his little metal finder, little metal sector, beep, beep, and we might have finally found the thing with the buried treasure. So we're lucky or happy about that. But because of his Jersey sales, kind of got me to thinking about him being the guy, the commanders right now being the team, then I saw this quote from Roger Goodell on Good Morning Football. Have you heard what he said about the commanders this week? Oh, I saw it. I'm going to read this quote to people. Goodell on NFL Network did a morning interview. This was two days ago, would have been on Tuesday. I know what that franchise means to that community. You can see there on the right path. I just think that team is on the rise. I think it'll be fun for the league to have them back. Now, there's a lot you can pull out of that quote. First of all, I think it's an amazing quote to say have them back because it really does feel like we've been on our own island out here. Not really a part of the NFL. Just completely irrelevant for a long time. Yeah, everyone kind of had to play pretend, right? I mean, because you it's really hard to remove an owner. It took what we just went through, which is lawsuits, you know, minority owners, suing, court cases involving Bruce Allen, John Gruden, potentially behind the scenes testimony debt that couldn't be repaid. And all the strong arming in the world is what it took to pry that tyrant away from his team. It's not the owners are set up to be owners. And that's what the whole league is. It's 32 give or take with Green Bay being the exception, but basically 32 billionaires in a club. And that's what this is. That's all for their amusement, really, and to make a lot of money. It's not set up to remove them. I think it will be fun for the league to have them back. It reminds me of the member of the family that was cast off. You got into the relationship that everyone else didn't support or you know, they went down the wrong path and they tried to help you and they couldn't. And eventually they just kind of wrote you off and said they'll come back maybe. We'll see. And you're back and you're at Thanksgiving again and you're hanging out again and everyone's just kind of in a punch in the arm going, Hey, it's good to have you back Danny. That's the vibe, right? But between that comment and the Daniels Jersey sales, it has brought back this idea that we're only probably an excellent football season away. We're a couple of really good football seasons away from it being a lot harder to get rid of this name. And I want to know if you're ready to make peace with that, Mr. Ruya. If the commanders are good, the name is going to stick. Now, I tweeted something to this effect a couple days ago at Grand H. Paulson and most of the responses are angry people telling me how much they hate the name and how I'm done. And that's fine. But I'm not telling you, you will like the name more because they're winning. That's what people are yelling me at me as if I said, that's not what I said. You got to listen to me. I'm not suggesting if you don't like the name that the name will grow on you. Although that may eventually happen. That's certainly not my point. My point is, and I think this is actually just common sense. If the commanders are really good and they win 11 games for the first time since 1991, if the commanders get to the playoffs and win a game for the first time in 19 years and then come in the next year expected to be good and do another double digit win thing where they get to the playoffs and maybe go on a run. It just gets more difficult to change the name. And I just want everyone to understand that. I'm not saying you shouldn't be rooting for that. I'm not saying we should be hoping they lose. That would be ridiculous. I'm just saying it's time to make peace with this fact that if they're good and they have a quarterback that everybody likes check and jerseys are flying off the shelves and commanders merchandise is being purchased at a rate that it wasn't previously and they become the cool team nationally, which we're already seeing and they become the team in town, which we're starting to see the name is not going anywhere. The great Thomas soul has a quote that I often reference. There are no solutions, only trade offs. This is the trade off. I hate the name. It reminds him of Dan Snyder. I can't say it because it reminds me of Snyder. The whole thing is just Snyder to me. He ruined everything. And this was his last echo of his time here. I can't stand it. I hate the name. I hate it so much. I tried to never say it. It's sticking. This is the plan. I'm telling you all along. This is the plan. They're going to kick the can down the road because they'd rather not spend the millions of dollars on the rebrand and the read this and the reread this and then this PR campaign and this sun veiling and then it's due to 22. Yeah, you could change the name again. You could change you down a lot if it doesn't. If you don't have to do it, they're not going to do it. And the every Jaden Daniels current team name Jersey that sold is another reason not to change it again. It's going to stick. And this is how it's going to stick. Is there good and it's going well, we got enough? I think the premise is irrefutable. Frankly, I think this is common sense, right? The better the football team is, the more likely the name sticks. Can you make peace with that? That is the question for you guys as we open up the MGM National Harbor listener lines. 800 6361067 is the number 800 6361067 on Grant and Danny on the fan. Thank you. for watching. I'm Danny on the fan. I'm Danny on the fan. I'm Danny on the fan. I'm Danny on the fan taking you up to 630. And I'm Danny on the fan. I'm Danny on the fan taking you up to 630. And the preview of Thursday night football tonight, Tyler Biotich of the commanders suddenly revered offensive line stops by at 330. Right now we have opened the show by discussing the fact that the upstart club has the name getting more positive connotations nationally. Nobody's really second and third guessing themselves before they say commanders on the shouty shows as they're yelling about how good they are and how good Jaden Daniels looks. And the question for you guys here locally where the name is not popular is I guess aid you agree with what seems to be a pretty obvious premise that the better the team does, the harder it's going to be to change the name. 800 6361067. And then I guess more importantly, can you make peace with that? So I would I would offer one potential rephrased also real and some even even more people. It becomes less necessary to change the name. It becomes less of a priority to change the name. In other words, Josh Harris and company repeatedly said like we're not thinking about that right now. And it implies that you would think about it later. It because there's no need to think about it later. There's you know what I mean? It's it's a one point point point to when he had his one press conference before the season. Are you doing any research? Are you guys aware based on that research that the name isn't resonating or do you have research that says otherwise? And I'll paraphrase his answer. But he basically said that they were doing research and then it does matter that the name is not popular. And so the the the better brand association that you get with something less need, there is to change the brand. Exactly. It's fundamental. It's marketing economics 101. It's your first business class. Welcome to business school. If somebody likes your brand, if your Coca Cola don't change it to something totally different. They got a pretty good brand going. I was texting with a buddy who's a lifelong fan of the team today and we were discussing this very thing. And he had made the point that it doesn't really matter if the people who are angry that it's not Redskins ever come back or not. If it becomes cool enough that the casuals join because you grow a new fan base. Correct. In other words, you fill up RFK stadium with every single person who is at every single game who knows Jurgensen and and who knows John Riggins and all those guys stat lines and say every single one of them doesn't care as this team's playing in a playoff game in January. But think about seventh and F streets when the capitals went to the Stanley Cup. Think about the Navy Yard when the nats went to the World Series. There were so many people dancing in the streets and partying and buying your red T-shirts to rock who couldn't tell you who Chandler Stevenson was on the caps third line and didn't necessarily know who Tanner Rainey was in the nats bullpen. But it was the thing to do. It was kind of fun and they became fans that still go to caps games a couple times a year that still go to nats games a couple of time a year. So while my point is, I think it does matter to still appease and appeal to that fan base that's been disenfranchised. His point is the numbers. It's just math. Like the numbers will grow exponentially. Young people don't care that it's not Redskins anymore. A random 10 or 12 year old, my son, who's a toddler, who when we were in the store pointed to the Jaden Daniels jersey, because he hears dad talk about him and said he wanted the jersey, they don't care that it's not Redskins. And so if they're the cool team, if they're the team with the quarterback, it's just going to happen naturally. Let's go to the phones. George is in Fredericksburg on the fan. Hey, George. Hey, boys, what's going on, man? Thank you as always for taking my call. I appreciate it. Got it, dude. And just to answer your general question, first off, yeah, I guess you would have to be a piece with it. But I would argue that it is refutable because right now, we're saying that Jaden Daniels Jersey is the one that's flying off the shelf. So are we breeding commander's fans or are we breeding Jaden Daniels fans? So what I'm saying is that if he decides to leave after his contract and all the, you know, the extensions are put on there and he decides to leave and those jerseys are no longer selling. Are we still the commander's name is still going to suck? So it's just going to be predicated on how long is Jaden there or the next Jaden? So it's a good point, but it doesn't matter for the greater conversation because the point is the purchase is being made. The merch is moving. The merch is being worn. The gear is out there. We're going from a time where nobody wants to buy gear to a time where they will. So the reason why they're buying it, if I'm Josh Harris, doesn't really matter. It just becomes part of the fabric instead of walking down the street and never seeing anything that said commanders and seeing a bunch of stuff that said Redskins, you'll start to see more stuff that says commanders. Right. And so from their perspective, what impetus do they have to change it? It's working. You know what I mean? Like we have to do nothing. You could do nothing and make a bunch of money or you could spend a bunch of money in the hopes the new thing works. The point is it's now the path of least resistance. 800-636-1067. Shane DC, you're on Grant and Danny with that. Commander, are you all doing the day, Grant? Good. First of all, we'll give a shout out to my hometown, man. Tennessee just got, you know, just got destroyed by the hurricane. So shout to my people down there. But look, man, I think the name's going to change. Regardless of what it is, I think like Commander headed on the head, it's still left over and then just not her. I mean, it's still part of him that is in this city. And I don't care if they go out when it's super bow. I don't think, I think they changed as it's going to be now. But no, but the name needs to change. They need a new brand to get away from that snider, that horrible owner that we had here, that's Stumbag. But no, I think that right now it's a priority. Like you said, no, they got more things to worry about, stadium, things not nature. But I think the name is what it is for the next couple of years. But I do believe that this name will be changed regardless if they win or not. I mean, like the last caller said, are we fans of the players? Are we fans of this team? Players come and go in this league, as you know, and it fails not for long. So my theory is, it's going to be a couple of years, though, hurry. But I do believe that this name's going to be changed. It's never going to go back to the Redskins as we know. It's not going to happen. But I think we can get a better name than the damn commander. Well, I'm with you on that and Chad, hope everybody, you and yours are all happy and healthy and safe. It's scary stuff. But just to the trivial matter of the name itself, I hope you're right, honestly. But I guess the point here is, I don't know how to say it better than this. If I'm if I'm ownership, I go, this is a lever we can pull. If things don't go well in the football field, which happens, by the way, draft picks don't pan out guys get hurt or, you know, the bottom falls out or turns out we made the wrong choice somewhere. It's a regular football operation. Those things happen. The wrong GM, the wrong coach, the wrong whatever, right? If we're not playing well, if we can't pull the shiny new stadium card, if we can't do the thing that's going to try to reengineer or re-excite this fan base, that is a lever we can pull. If we don't have to pull it and spend the man hours, the consulting fees, the reprinting and all the, you know, the policies that you have to do to file the trademarks, we're off to do that. We're not doing it. He said if they win a super bowl, it won't matter. They'll change the name that I completely disagree with. Now, I don't know what the line of demarcation is. If they get to this point, then you can't change it. But, and maybe he was being hyperbolic. If they were to win a super bowl in the next three years, they're the commanders forever. I mean, again, look at the capitals and the nats runs, which are a microcosm of what a super bowl run would be in this town. It would be unlike anything we've, we've seen in my lifetime, literally ever in sports in this city. The dance nighter would be such an afterthought. Nobody would be talking about him anymore. They will have already turned the page or at least that's what they will have sold at that point. So what about if they get to an NFC championship game? Is that enough? Is a playoff win or back-to-back ears with playoff wins enough? I'm not sure. But I just think it's common sense that there's going to be more positive connotations to the name. There will be more buy-in for the operation and there will be gear everywhere if they are winning football games. And if you're the owners, you go, wait a second. This is a gigantic expense. It is a gamble anyway that they like the next thing. It is something the league would rather us not do as it is. It's a huge pain in the tuckus. Why are we doing this when things are trending well at this point? Let's go to Leo and Gaithersburg. What's up, Leo? What's going on, Dr. Anthony, thanks for taking my call. The name's sticking. No matter what, anybody says, even if we don't want a super bowl, even if we have the next five, six losing seasons, I think it's sticking. Just because I would, I'm gonna let you keep going. I don't want to cut you off, but from making the rest of your point. But I just want to say I disagree with that before this season. And I still would disagree. Like if they don't have positive memories that go along with the name and the purchases and all those things that come to change the perception, there's just too much research right now that's been done that shows that the fan base hates the name. Right. Just like you, my five-year-old daughter, she has no clue who the rest is wearing. We were in VIX last weekend. She wanted a little cute commander's cheerleading dress. It's a good way when we watch the games together. Like, you know what I mean? That's... I bet she got it. Did she get it, Leo? I bet she did. She should worry. Oh, yeah, she did. Because I don't have to DVR the games. And she's cheerleading for me. I can watch him live, right? Yeah. But here's the thing. What about Danny and I'm with you? Like, I really didn't like the name. I didn't even like the way they could even close the blinds. You remember how they... Oh, of course, yeah. Come on. They couldn't even like that. They couldn't even that... The foresight, right? It wasn't there. But what is the re-brained of the commanders? My favorite commander's jersey that I'm like, a peril that I have is this bootleg t-shirt I got, the damn quin one with the W and the feather, right? My favorite piece of gear because it's no boss to the past. It's the future. What is the re-brained of the commanders' brand? And we had that circle. We had the W. We had the commander. Well, they're not going to go back with anything with the feather for you to call. I mean, A, I'll just cut you off at the past there. Nothing with Native American imagery is going to be used. It's just not going to happen moving forward. But if they re-did the brand a little bit, I think that is on the table. I think it would help. They get rid of these dumb jerseys immediately and bring back the old jerseys. That would be the first thing they should do. They should be doing that next year as far as I'm concerned. Bring back the Super Bowl era jerseys and get rid of these stupid colors and these stupid jerseys. That's one step. If they do a few things like that and it's commanders and they're winning, I'm sorry, guys. Get used to the name. Yeah, I mean, the best comp we can offer here, it's a different context for where the name was changed, but with wizards and bullets. I still hate wizards, by the way. There's there's no point in fighting it, right? The fight is over. I lost decades ago. Such a good point because everyone wants to argue about, I'm not going to like the name. I'm not telling you you're going to like it or that everyone will. If you pull wizards fans right now, how many people like the name? It's probably below 30%. Well, but all, but all, you know, anybody Ryan's age, even your age in below, probably don't even remember bullets. You don't remember that that name meant something. I barely have a file, but my earliest memories are their first year as the wizard. Yeah. And so the point is you just you take their out of the ball, you wait and wait and wait and wait and this is just what it is. I still hate wizards. I can't stand it. It's a terrible name that should never have been changed. And yet, here I am. I've accepted it. And I'm not at peace with it, whatever that the distinction is. I don't like it at all, but there's nothing I can do about it. And I think that's the best case for a lot of us using that phrase making peace. Can you? Make peace with this team name. If times get good around here, because if they continue to win, you might have to grant and Danny on the fan. [inaudible] G and D on the fan. Tyler Beaudish on the show at three 30 today. That's coming up in about 45 minutes. We want to give the old line some love. They've been outstanding commanders coming back home to take on the Cleveland Browns at Northwest Stadium on Sunday afternoon rolls off the tongue nicely. Just like dad did it. He's going to see his commanders at Northwest Stadium. Yeah, have time to change it all. I'm looking to try to look anything up. If they keep winning though, times might not change that much more. Yeah, you're going to downtown DC to watch it played right. No, you're not. East of the city to go to Northwest. I think I've always assumed when they're in their new stadium in 2030, the 11 new name. That's kind of the timeline. It'll be before then at some point, but not immediately. But if they hit on the quarterback and Daniels is Josh Allen or he's you know Lamar Jackson and they're selling games out and people care again and everyone's got his jersey. They're not changing the name. I just don't see a path to that because even though Danny's still going to want the name changed and I'm still going to want the name. A lot of people will, but they won't be the need every person. I don't say everyone probably at a 90 plus percent clip, right? The people that hate the name are going to continue to hate the name. You're going to be replaced by some guy who hadn't been a fan of the team that now is by some girl who wasn't a fan of the team who was just playing fantasy football, who now loves Jaden Daniels and the really good team near in her backyard enough that she goes to the games and they don't care who it is. They just want the butt in the seat. Yeah, there's a, there's an old phrase that's usually related to politics. So everybody, you know, adult pants on here will be fine. I promise you guys will be fine. But people vote with their pocketbooks. Don't say the word vote, dude. It's October 3rd. The elections almost a month away. We don't want to scare anyone away. Please do show meeting do not say the word. I would never say it. Okay. I would never say it. People wrote with their pocketbooks, right? The point is if money's being made, I'm sorry. I'm sorry about your principled stance. I'm sorry how about how I'm angry. I'm over here furious. I can't stand that. I hate it. I just see Snyder's smirking dumb face. I can't change anything. People are like every jersey that's sold with the current name on it is another step walking away from me going, but wait, come back, change it. The wife and I never had a conversation about this, but it became very obvious after several weeks we were not buying anything that said commanders. This is not some hard and fast rule. And for me, I don't wear team gear really anyway, but we just weren't going to make any of those purchases, right? The stuff she would buy for the kids would just say Washington, Washington football, the football team, whatever. My son walks in the door with a commander's jadon daniel's jersey and I kind of looked at her and I was like, I guess we're doing this now. She's like, he wanted a jadon daniel's jersey. That tells you something. As does the coverage all over the country right now. Let's go to disco and Laurel on GND. What's up disco? Hey gentlemen, how you doing? What's up, buddy? Hey, man. So look, here's what I think is going to happen. I think the same thing could happen like it happened with the caps and maybe the nationals. DC is such a transient town and you have, you do have some diehars who have been here. But when you've got people, when they start winning and people casually, it becomes a social event to go to the games. Totally. You know, you're not going to buy your 10 year old kid a Monte Coleman jersey. You're not going to buy, you know, you're not going to have some congressional ages. Oh, you know, let me go get a, let me go get a, you know, a art month jersey. People are going to buy jadon daniel's jerseys. People might buy Brian Robinson or whomever. And just, and just on that note, I literally guys literally an hour ago just got back from the team store at the stadium and bought a jadon daniel's jersey after I emphatically said that I would not put it on Twitter. I said, I wasn't going to do it. And damn, if I didn't do it. Dude, here we go. I mean, this is kind of what we're talking about. I got a tweet here. I'm at Grand H. Paulson, Danny. Is it funny, Danny? This is from Anthony. He says this in all caps is the reason why I was begging them to put a higher priority on changing the name exactly because of the possibility of becoming a winning franchise with it. And to that, I would say this is exactly why they didn't put a higher priority on changing the name. Agree with all of it because they took the air out of the ball and said, maybe if we hit on the quarterback, we don't have to. And so far, it looks like they hit on the 100% my friend. Let's go to Chad and Alexandria on the fan. Hey, Chad. What's up? I was thinking my call got to do. So I'm 20 a year old and I've been a lifelong rescue fan, which means I've never seen a phone before or any winning tradition. So I couldn't care less with the name as long as we're winning. I think a lot of people are going to feel that way. Yeah. And that's kind of the point. And I get that, by the way, I don't progress that because if you never had the unbelievable amount of joy that people my age and older had, where's your association? Your only memories of the then Redskins were expectations, disappointment, scandal, and nonsense. So yeah, what brand attachment do you have? There's workar rounds to be clear. I got a guy Jimbo here saying, do what me and my buddies are doing. And he's got a picture of some site where you can still make your own Redskins jersey. And so I don't know what's going to shut down, brother. I don't know what country it comes from. I don't know what viruses he get, but they're getting Jaden Daniels jerseys there. I got another guy who sent me a picture of his new jersey, which is a white LSU jersey with like the gold trim. So it doesn't look that different from an aerial shot, necessarily. You're wearing white, it's a Daniels like he's going, I'm not buying a commander's jersey. And while I respect the hustle, that's just not what most people are going to be doing. They're going to, where's the closest, almost dated myself and said, uh, Modell's. But where's the closest dicks? Where's the is sports authority, even a thing? I think so. Where's the closest sports authority? They're going to go get their jersey because it's right around the corner. Sports authority did shut down, by the way, everywhere or just some everywhere. Bummer. I mean, this whole segment is just a I remember when I was young, dude. You have a good sports authority. They had all sorts of things. We go to sports authority and then we'd go right over to KB toys and then we'd end our day at Kmart. Yeah, I swim by Kmart. That's still around. It's not okay. Friendlies. Don't tell me friendlies is gone too. I a lot of times I peruse to see these at tower records. Yeah. And the hopes of purchasing a new one. 800 6361067. You want to hop in on G and D. Are you with us? That wins are going to make it harder to replace the name. This is Grant and Danny. Also at the top of the hour, there could be another change coming to the new kickoff that makes it even easier for you to get the ball closer to midfield. We'll explain. A Thursday. Grant and Danny means we're creeping toward a week five in the NFL season. You know, we wait forever for the start of football. And then like that, it's a quarter away. Let's be yeah, week five already is preposterous. The local footballers have a bright future. It is time for you to plan yours as well. 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And if Jaden Daniels is the real deal and they become the team with the quarterback, another comment, Roger Goodell made in that interview we mentioned last hour on NFL Network was that they have begun talking about and that there is a possibility if needed that they would change the yard line you start your drive with after a touch back with the new kickoff from the 30 to the 35 that that's something they would consider for next year. So that tells you two things, Danny. Number one, this new kickoff right now is not only working in their eyes, but they like it. Number two, that while there have been a lot of returns compared to the past, they want even more. Right. Instead of some, which is more than it used to be, they want a lot and I'm all in. This is correct. I love this. Starting at the 30 currently is one of the biggest reasons in my opinion. Why we're seeing less punting, not just in Washington, where they don't punt at all. By the way, go to one oh six, seven, the fan shop.com for our brand new shirt, which I think is awesome at our one oh six, seven, the fan merch store. It's just the word punt with basically being crossed out because the commanders don't punt very, very cool burgundy and gold t-shirt go by go check it out. It's a good look, but punting's down all over the league because you're getting the ball to 30 15 years ago, it was the 20. Then it was the 25. Now the average starting field positions, the 29, you get to make field during pilgrimage field goal. Kickers are the best they've ever been. There's been a one miss kick on 116 attempts. 40 and in it was the Packers, Nubby kicker this past week against the Vikings. Nervous and I think his name who wears the number 44, please stop doing that. Kickers should not wear numbers that are not single digits as an aside, but they can't wear a team number. Okay. If they have to, like you're the Yankees, you don't have any single digit numbers available. I can sign off on that. You should never wear anything above 19. That is, you just don't get to employ a kicker if you don't have a number for them. Oh, that would be my new one. I like that. You have to cut someone who's a single digit number or a team's number or move them to a different number. I like this. No employing kickers thing. We're seeing some paddock on. No, no, no, no. We're on the same ground there. Big kickers guy. I just 20s, 30s, 40s like all the way through 90s. This is not college football at the University of Georgia enough already. But anyway, that guy because of the number he wears, he missed a kick. It was the only kick inside a 40 that's been missed by a kicker all year. It's automatic, right? On top of that, kickers are now kicking routinely from 60. Did you see Joey slide this week? Yeah, from 63 and so easy. So easy. So you don't have to go as far as you used to. You're starting closer to midfield than you ever have before. You basically need two first downs and you're in field goal range. That's why everyone is not punting. Also, on fourth and short and plus territory is a go situation most of the time. So if you basically get 15 yards, now it's fourth and two or less. You're in no man's land. You might as well go for it anyway. Might as well go. So it's kind of become more fun. And I think Goodell's noticing that he's going, well, heck, let's just move it up to the 35. And and by the way, again, let me go sign wherever I can rubber stamp that I will the the thing that baseball was so bad at forever. And that's why we had all these sweeping changes in one off season where we're like, and there's no shifts and there's a pitch clock and there's this and this and this and this and we're like, whoa, that's a lot. Well, football does it incrementally. When we we tweak something, hey, this is working. This is really working. Now let's turn it up instead of waiting 15 years to get a big data sample. They're not waiting around for it. They realize we're on to something here. Let's turn it up. Don't you miss good punting a little bit? No, we were friends with Tresway. Don't you miss that angle punt to the sideline? The dropping up on inside the 10 that kicks up with little backspin just so you're not going to get me to say something bad about Tresler. Yeah, I'm a Tresway guy. I don't miss him at all. I don't miss puns at all. Let me be clear. Mr. Obama stuff. Yeah, but what I'm saying has nothing to do with the commanders, not punting. No, I understand. I don't ever want to see Tres do anything but hold ever again. I just mean around the league. We're losing a little something if we miss out on the art of the punt. I don't miss it. It's like saying, do you miss like toenail fungus? It's the it's a part of the game that's necessary. That's going to happen. I don't miss it at all. I don't want to see it. Those are not the football players. I want to see the football players. I want to see the lineman, the wide receivers, the running backs, the quarterbacks, that the incredible athletes that are running shuttled cone drills in three seconds and with 300 pounds. I want the incredible thing, not the dude that looks like he could be selling beer in the stands, jogging out there and putting football than jogging back off. The more football we can have with football players, that's what I want. You know what would be silly and I don't mean silly like wacky. I think silly, like Johnny Cakes Allville says, sell it. If they're going to do the thing next year, let's say, where there's still too many teams because there's three or four teams that have quite literally just every single time still booted the ball through the back of the end zone and given teams the ball. We don't want to mess with this. We're not doing it because some big returns have been ripped off. We're not dealing with it. If they want to penalize that and they do the thing where instead of the first 10 at the 30, it's now the 35. I think they should move the spot for the kickoff out of bounds up. The kickoff out of bounds has always been the 40, but at one point in time was twice as big a penalty as a touch back. Okay. Now it's not twice as big, but it was sizable from the 25 to the 40, whatever percentage that is, but it's a 15 yard discrepancy. We're down to a 10 yard discrepancy into 30. If you move the touch back distance up to the 35, at some point, we've got to adjust the out of bounds distance to like midfield. I'm with that. If you just kick the ball out of bounds because you're trying to get cute or something or you're landing it in the landing zone, let's really make kickers lives more difficult and let's make the the skill on kickoffs play a little bit. If it goes out of bounds, you get the ball at midfield. Oh, cosign, crazy like that. Sign me right the hell up. But remember all of this when you're wondering how scoring trending up and percentage of drives with points and percentage of drives with punts. What's it all mean? You're starting further upfield. You need to get less distance to get into field goal range. It just makes sense. And it's a huge reason, probably also, and now I'm thinking about it, why passing numbers may be down. Another one we haven't talked about, right? We're talking about the way teams are defending. Why take a shot when I only need 15 yards? Yeah, but it's also a, you know, you're not getting out of the shadow of your own end zone anymore. Like somebody, the rare occasion someone has a return 60% of the time in the old way, there's a block in the back, there's a hole, there's something illegal. So you're backed up to your own 14. That's, it doesn't seem like much, but that's 15, 16, 20 extra yards per drive that you're sacrificing based on field position. Yeah, yards per game, maybe go down. Yards per attempt shouldn't really change, which has always been a better stat anywhere. But I am curious to see kind of where all this trends are. We could ask Tyler Beaudish about some of the specifics of, where drives are beginning and how things have trended differently in the league this year. The center for the commanders joins us here in about 20 minutes on the fan. Let's go to the phones though, 800-636-1067. Danny, we've been talking to people about as the teams standing within the fan base improves. The way they're talked about nationally gets better, the team names going to start having a more positive connotation. Yeah, I think it's inevitable. And I think this is part of the strategy. The way I view it is the name change, a new stadium, you know, and then to a smaller degree, a rebrand or, you know, new uniforms or different things, these are all levers that an ownership group that's smart, by the way, these are not stupid people. These are billionaires who figured a lot of things out about how to market things, about how to build brand and brand equity and all that kind of fancy stuff. The different levers they can pull to try to engineer the fan base or re-excite the fan base or to build the group, right? Well, the easiest way, the path of least resistance is that the football team be good. And I know that's annoying. I used to get so annoyed over the years, whatever. There was any kind of name change conversation where adults are trying to talk about some of the logistics, whatever. And somebody would call up and go, just win. That's all that matters. Just win as if they've solved the problem and solved the puzzle. Like, oh, okay, we'll just do that. We'll just do that simple thing. They've been neglecting to do. I just wish someone would have said it earlier. I never thought about that. It's such a, what a crazy thing to think about trying to do. So here's the thing, if they're able to actually do that, which is really hard to do, but if they're able to do so, they don't have to do the other things to build the interest. There's less urgency in their mind. A restaurant does not have to be run as well. And the service doesn't have to be as good if you are addicted to the food. You don't have to do too for long or buy one, get one or whatever. Yeah. If the food is why you're there and you know it, and it's the best you can get anywhere, and you love it every time you eat it, you're probably going to deal with a little bit more that you don't love at the restaurant. Let's go to Jay and Leesburg on the fan. What's up, buddy? Hey, Brandon. Thank you so much for taking my call. You guys are awesome. I want to give a quick shout out to my Brian Monday. And I just want to say that regardless of how much we win, I will never accept myself. Personally, we'll never accept the commander's name or the entire brand itself. I'm 33 years old and been a lifelong Redskins fan and I've yet to buy a single piece of commanders or Washington football team gear. In fact, I still look for Redskins gear anywhere I go everywhere I go. And I actually, you know, I think a caller said this earlier on the show that they found websites where they customize and make Redskins, Kay and Daniel's jersey or other players' jerseys. So I still continue to do that. So by Redskins jerseys and I'm having my first child actually this December and I already bought four or five ones these Redskins ones for her. And I refuse to ever dress her anything commanders related. If they change the name, I mean, I know it might not go back to Redskins, but if they ever change anything else, I might think about dressing her in that in the future. But commanders just reeks of dance nighter. And, you know, obviously we all hated that guy. Yes, we did. Yes, we did. First of all, congrats. You have no idea what you're in for. It's the best and having a daughter is the coolest thing in the world. So congratulations, buddy. That's number one. Number two, I admire your stubbornness, not necessarily in this regard, although in this regard too, but just generally, yeah, I like that you are seemingly you're you put your flag in the ground. You're not moving. There are people out there like him. My point is not that he's ever going to change his mind. He might, by the way, doesn't know it yet, but maybe three super bowls from now in 10 years of Jaden Daniels as Patrick Mahomes to boy no, again, I'm not predicting anything crazy hypothetical time. I'm just suggesting maybe just maybe commanders is not going to be something that you dislike or think about dance nighter when you see it. But regardless of that happens or not, I don't think that's what they have to worry about. I think what they are thinking is all of the kids in your son's class who are wearing messy jerseys will start wearing Jaden Daniels jerseys and they'll start wearing Ryan Williams jerseys when they draft the 17 year old wide receiver out of Alabama and he becomes the best receiver in the league and he's Justin Jefferson 2.0. Let's say they are banking on the random 25 year old dude who's from Chicago who now likes the nats and the caps and just watches his fantasy football team on NFL Sunday ticket and red zone who falls in love with Daniels and the team and by season tickets. Enough of those guys coming over. They're banking on when they're good, just like 10,000 people stood outside the arena to watch a Stanley Cup game or the entire Navy Yard was shoulder to shoulder in front of the Metro out here by the bullpen to watch a World Series game with a bunch of people that didn't know who Mac Scherzer was a month earlier. They're banking on that happening for this team as they win. And if it happens, then the people like you and him and me and others that don't want to buy commander's gear just aren't going to matter. It doesn't matter. Try to quantify it this way. For all the lapsed fans, the paradigm before was how do we get them back? How do we get them back? How do we get them back? The disgruntled only Redskins fan, the disgruntled. I'm not going to the stadium. Danny Ruya type fan, the disgruntled. I won't buy jerseys as long as Dan Snyder's in charge fan. How do we get them back? How do we get them back? This is a paradigm shift to how do we find new? You can win some back by good performance on the football field, a better stadium, a new stadium, whatever. But some you're never getting back. I think it's a smart point here, but it's a sea change. It's basically saying, we'll do everything we can to welcome people back in the fall and welcome we love that equation. But the most important thing is new, is to build new, which nobody was doing for decades because they couldn't get out of their own damn way. How many sports fans are there in the DMV? How many sports fans are there that are not diehards of NFL teams already? That's the group that you need to win over, essentially. You're going to try to win the other group over the Danny who has as well that the guy listening who's 57 years old and went to RFK with his dad and his livid that it's not Redskins. Don't win as many of them back as they can. They're going to try. There's things they need to and should do like getting back to uniforms that are just not these, the new ones that are different than the old ones, regardless of what they tell you. They're different. They should not wear the ones that they wear currently. They stuck with burgundy and gold supposedly, although they didn't, and they told you that jerseys weren't going to change and then they changed. They'll do little things along the way, I'm sure. But it's it's about the millions of people that they that are living in these condos down here in the Navy Yard that may be from here or may not be that go to Walters on a Sunday to watch six games. And all of a sudden, Jaden Daniels is the hot ticket and you're playing Lamar in the Ravens in week 11 in a primetime game and they go, dude, I'm going to watch Jaden. All of a sudden you're playing an NFC postseason game where the Eagles are in town and it's the NFC championship game and they're going. Everyone's talking about it at work all week. I also recognize too that fandom is different than than my age group. I just local teams. That's the only interest that the only we could see. The only thing I could possibly ever be associated with. I mean, it's, it's your generation too, but even younger for my son, his favorite player, some dude named Holland, it's not spelled that way. It's like Hagland or something like that. He loves that guy. I don't know where he's from or what he does, but he's from Manchester City. That was impossible for me to think about, but for young people, they like my homes. They like Kevin Durant. They like whatever the star is and that can be your gateway to caring about a team. Let's go to Mike and rest in on Grant and Danny. How are you, buddy? I'm great guys. You're making some great points. I just wanted to kind of connect a dog with one of our owners. Magic Johnson wore one of the worst names originally on his jersey. When that team moved, imagine the generation that had no connection to the Lakers of Minnesota. And my point is, and Danny, you touched on this earlier, the brand does become more powerful than the name itself. And I think that over time, if this team reaches greatness, this new regime takes this team to a dynasty level, no one will be talking about it. No one will remember Dan Snyder. All of those bad feelings and emotions will be gone. So the brand can be bigger than the name. I think that's a great point. Yeah. Everyone thinks of Dan Snyder when they see the name right now or a lot of people do. I don't actually, but I know Danny and so many people do. That's not what you'll think about when you eventually three, four years from now, you might think of Jaden Daniel's touchdown passes to Terry McLaren. Let's go to Drew and get a Graysonville on the fan. Hey, Drew. Hey, Juan, I think you guys have made some excellent points that winning changes the economic equation for merchandise sales and things like that. And that's important. But the other thing, and you know, Josh Hauer said this too, is he's not an S minus guy. And no matter what, the commander brand is an S minus brand. Right? So if he wants to, you know, and so, and even for fans that want to get behind it, there's a guy that goes to all the games that calls himself the commander, but he looks like Captain Crunch. It's just a, you know, it's a caricature. So at some point, I'm kind of hoping that the ownership says, hey, we don't have to spend the money, but if we want to be a quality organization, we've got to evolve the name. And I'm not saying he's going back to, you know, Redskins, but, and you could keep, you could do some compromise. You might keep the W and change the name to, to something else, you know, that starts with a W or there's, there are some compromises and compromises. Everyone doesn't get what they want, but, but you might be able to do better than you're at. And I kind of trust that Josh Harris is not done trying to make this team as good as it can be in every different way. Love it. Good call. I appreciate that. My favorite show of all time is The Wire and Stringer Bell, who was a frankly, a notorious drug dealer on the show, was taking business school classes based on like a real character. And he went to his professor in business school and he said, what do you do? He was talking about drugs, which is the irony of it. He was like, what do you do if you have an inferior product in a crowded marketplace? And the guy said, change the name. If you don't have an inferior product anymore, that's what we're talking about, right? If the, if the product is inferior, there's no brand association. If it's an F minus, everybody's competing for your sports attention dollars, the national's capitals, local 53 hockey, everybody's doing it, right? You don't, you only have so much not in a limited budget. If everybody's competing and you're inferior, that's when you can try a new brand. If you don't have to, you don't need to do that. Grant and Danny with you on the fan got an excellent show today, including Tyler B. Adish commander's center who's going to be on the show here within the next 10 minutes, looking forward to catching up with him about how well this O line has played his early thoughts on Jaden Daniels as a rookie. We've also got those tickets to see the capitals on their opening night on the 12th, which is just nine days away at Capitol one arena. If you want to be there, you got to be listening coming up in 40 minutes at four o'clock on the fan. [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] >> GND on the fan, Tyler Biotish, the starting center of the commanders is scheduled to join us in just a couple of minutes. By the way, tickets are available for Sunday's game. To the commanders and the Browns, you can get your tickets at commanders.com. Appreciate them making Biotish available to us today. We will chat with them in just a couple of moments. I just saw this scrolling on Twitter during the break. I'm at Grant H. Paulson, Danny. Is it funny, Danny? So there's one particular sports book. I can't speak to all of them. But the guy that runs the book came out and said that the most risky proposition for them this weekend is that commanders went. Basically, that's where they're most leveraged, which is to say that the majority of the money that they've got on any team, the most betting being done on anybody, is on the Washington commanders to cover against the Cleveland Brown. >> What a time to be alive, my friend. >> His quote was, I don't remember seeing that in this business. So this is normally reserved for the 9 and 0 Baltimore Ravens, right? The Tom Brady and Bill Belichick led Patriots. Every single week, the book's like everyone's betting on them. We tried to move the line up enough, but if they win, we're going to take a bath. This week, the thing that people are most sure about, is that the commanders beat the Browns by more than three. >> What a strange universe this is. And again, just a matter of a week. >> Now that should petrify you. >> But of course it does. >> Because just generally speaking, it is almost a luck that whatever the vast majority of the public thinks is going to happen any given week does not. >> This is very smell testy, QKV and CN. But again, just, what do they want to lose? I'll be fine. >> I think your next point is the good one. >> Yeah. This is the joy, right? >> It's happening to you. >> This is where, because you already said it very well, this is for Kansas City's playing Jacksonville this week, four and over, so and four. This is the Super Bowl contender versus team whose coach is going to get fired an hour. Like this, this is the good team versus the disaster where they go that we can't make this line too big because people are just going to play the best team. >> So many people are on the commanders that they're going, man, we're going to lose so much money if Washington wins that game and covers. >> I would be curious, there's no way to find this. When the last time they were the most bet on team to cover a number was, for any football weekend, it would have to be pre gambling being legal in this country in most states. And if it hasn't happened, it hasn't existed, but it's the confidence nationally. I think locally, it's probably too far to say that people are expecting the rug to be pulled out. But I think we've got that voice in our heads certainly more than they do on the shouty shows on all the major networks where they've just decided that commanders are going to win the division. >> Well, because they'll move on to the next thing, right? It'll be the next topic. The next, is this the greatest this of all time? Is this the greatest that of all time? >> Yeah, two weeks if the Eagles have won by 30 and back-to-back games, Hertz is an MVP and Sirionni is the coach of the year. >> Yeah, like if AJ Brown gets healthy and runs rough shot in two weeks, it'll be a new story. But so for them, they're not left with the emotional baggage and damage of believing for the first time in decades. Really believing and honest to goodness change is happening for the first time since 2012 for a lot of us. So yeah, we're left with it. It's like, when the coach comes up, the new coach is like, where's the support? Why aren't people supporting? We're going to be, we're going to ride violently and things are going to be different. >> The last eight guys told us that. Okay, so sorry, we're going to be a little bit hesitant to share our feelings. We got dumped a lot. >> To that point though, into those thoughts, I want to give this staff and specifically Dan Quinn credit for this. I think he's done a really good job of not doing the Ron Rivera thing of we're three and one, you better be there. Remember Rivera was like, we have earned it. You guys should be at this game. And Dan Quinn's going, we got to keep chopping wood. We've got to make you guys want to come to the game. We've got to make you guys want to be part of what we're building here. And I think it's just a very different tone than how Rivera did it. And it's been so refreshing. And I love the way Dan Quinn talks about home field advantage and getting people to come back out. It's been pretty cool. So is the way the commander's offensive line is played, by the way. And with that in mind, let's go to the bet QL guest hotline that's smarter to beat the books, download the bet QL app visit bet ql.com. First year center here in DC, Tyler Biotish joins us on Grant and Danny. He has been one of the leaders up front of an O line that ESPN's got ranked number one in run blocking number eight and past blocking. Tyler, thank you for the time. How are you? Hey, how are you doing? Great. How are you doing? We're great, buddy. Appreciate the time, man. So you those external grades are for, you know, slubs like Grant not to kind of try to figure out and quantify what our eyes are seeing. How would you grade so far what you and this O line have done through four weeks? We feel like it's pretty damn good. Yeah, I mean, I think we've done some pretty good stuff up to this point. I think that, you know, obviously, you know, there's a lot, lots of work on it. I think, you know, that that's just the standard that we hold ourselves that and, you know, we have some stuff to clean up and even even be better. So I think, you know, it's the point of that. I think we're doing a pretty good job so far. But you know, there's obviously huge, huge growth that we can get to Tyler from you at center over to your right with Cosby and Wiley. I mean, you guys have pretty much been on the field for every single snap. Obviously, Nick Allegretti has been a mainstay but missed a few snaps at the end of the game. But you guys are now basically 5050 rotating at left tackle, which is fairly uncommon. And it doesn't seem like missing a beat. Coleman's been awesome. Lucas has played pretty well. First of all, how abnormal is that just based on your experience college in the NFL to have like a platoon at left tackle. So to speak. And what do you make of how those guys have played? Yeah, I think, you know, I think the biggest thing in my experience, you know, there's definitely been some rotations in my career so far. But at the same time, you know, we've handled that through OTA's. We've had no that through camp and we've had we do now with BC and Lucas. So I think you know, they've done a great job of, you know, just helping each other out, seeing what they're seeing on the field and when they're in, they're prepared for that. But at the same time, I think, you know, we're just jailing and we're still, you know, early in the season where, you know, you just keep stacking those great opportunities of lessons. And obviously, you know, the biggest ones are whether we win or lost, but just learning from those and having that growth throughout the the preseason, but also through the first four games because that's the most unscattered that you're going to get and tell it to be honest with us here on GND. We don't know you tremendously well yet. I feel like you're really nice dude off the field. Are you one of those guys that like all of a sudden becomes like mean in a menace when the whistle blows? Or are you like always nice kind of like laughing and smiling while you're knocking guys into the dirt? Like, are you a, are you a trash talker? Do you get mean? Like, does your heart turn in the field that I am outside? So definitely I love that kind of that. Tyler, be honest on GND was with the Cowboys, the first four years of his career, became a starter about quarterway left in the season. In the last three years, a mainstay in Dallas. Dan Quinn loved what he saw, brought him over to DC a former pro bowler, anchoring this offensive line up front. What do you make of the way Jaden Daniels played as the rookie of the month? You know, I think there's, you know, the who he is on and off the field and his work ethic shows tremendously. I think the way he handles himself and how poised he is in any scenario doesn't matter what the situation is. He's always in the moment. And that's the hugest, you know, biggest part I've seen up at this point in the consistency and the growth that he's had since OTAs to camp to pre-season one to the first game of the season. So now there's huge growth points at his career even to this point that he's just, you know, taking those steps and he's handling success in the right way. And game after game, he's learning each and every time. So he's done a great job. Time to be honest, and the commanders are home against the Browns on Sunday tickets are available. You can go to commanders.com to get your hands on some. He seems like one of the guys in a way that's hard for a superstar. He was a Heisman Trophy winner number two overall pick, but he seems like he's able to kind of get along in the locker room with the crew. I saw you guys were sliming him for his Nickelodeon award the other day and having fun. What's his personality like? Yeah, I think it kind of goes back to what I said before, he's always in the moment. He's having fun with the two and he's a competitor and he's always having an edge on and how he can get better. But when we're in the moment of whether it be on or off the field, you know, we're having a great time and we're, you know, and we haven't had, you know, we've only had since what he's been drafted about a time. So we've had numerous amount of opportunities, whether it be, you know, dinners and hanging out after or even, you know, have that experience too with the Nickelodeon award. He just, he does not go yesterday. So I thought it's just he's in the moment guy. And that's the best part about him is that, you know, he's continuing to grow each and every day. Tyler, obviously new to the team this year and a couple other guys are as well on that offensive line. How long does it take for you to get comfortable so that it's second nature where you know in two to the with Sam Cos was going to do all the great is going to do where various tackles or guys that you're playing with, how long does that comfort and cohesion take to really and truly build where it becomes natural? Yeah, I think I think the biggest part is just making sure that, you know, we're locked in and we're consistent throughout the time we have together. And Matt goes all the way back from the time we were in with OTA's and, you know, we're all coming here and, you know, bringing every single day and showing our personalities is, you know, see how each and every piece of a puzzle could fit, right? And how we could gel together. And I think that's a huge part about it is, is the biggest thing is having experience with one another. So, and that's that was, you know, DQ had us, you know, playing in the preseason. That's which was great for us and joint practices that was great for us to build, not necessarily this culture, this team, but to build with each and every position group and how to, you know, obviously build chemistry and unity within the align. And it comes with experience, whether it be practice, meeting room and just being in the moment and being consistently, you know, doing what you need to do and how do you want to fit this or how do you want to block this and what's this call and how we're going to react to this and all these stunts and everything like that. So, and that's the biggest thing, I think. Tyler, staying out West last week seemed like a big deal to help you guys and basically, you know, not get too high after what was one of the great wins in recent franchise history. You end up handling your business against Arizona, but now you come home to friends and family in the area. You're not basically like locked in the hotel just with your teammates. How do you guys guard against now this week? Maybe going into that Cleveland game, feeling yourselves a little bit. Yeah, I think the biggest part about like the travel that I thought was great was that you had time to, you know, how we just talked about it and how you got to job with one another and just keep on building and, you know, that brick by brick mentality. And, you know, what kind of short week, how can we better, how can we be better, you know, obviously being on the road, you know, going all the way to, you know, a different time zone, all that, all that stuff. And, you know, I thought we, you know, we hit that out of the park. And so there's huge growth lessons I think we can build off of. But I think the point coming off of a huge win is like that is, okay, how good, how great can we be? So like, how can we, how can you take the little details and how, how about those plays that maybe, you know, maybe didn't hit as well as we could. And just those edges that you just want to keep, keep on your way to, you know, chasing success and obviously, you know, being at that attitude level of how great can we be. And that's how, you know, you're just nailing out the details in the meeting room and really staying consistent on top of that. Tyler Beottish with us here on J&D, a couple more moments left. Why are there so many eligible receiver downfield penalties? Like, what, what is going on? Do they come and warn you guys? I mean, league wide. Yeah, like, not just you guys, but everywhere. It's like every other plane now, like every RPO based results in it. Like, you guys need a lobbyist to get that out. Like, that's absurd what's happening right now. What's going on? I think that's just the emphasis around the league. I think, you know, every year, I would say that there's going to be emphasis on whether it be new or not necessarily new. But, you know, I think that's the how you, how great can you be based on officiating throughout each and every year? I think each and every year, there's, you know, some stuff that, you know, the referees or NFL is looking for, whether it be, you know, you know, illegal formation not being, you know, on the last scrimmage or, you know, whether it be excessive celebration or whatever the case may be. I think the biggest part to take away from that is that it's how the game's getting called. And, you know, I think every, you know, referee career, you take that into your study and you take that and how the league is getting called right now. And you take that into your prep as well. I think that's a, that's a huge, huge part of the game. Tyler, I know. I know why. Who knows? I know he doesn't line up right across from you, but we'll end the conversation here. The Browns are in town Sunday. Miles Garrett is not practicing right now, but assuming he plays, he had two sacks this week. He's got four already through four games, one of the best rusters in the league. Just generally, you know, what kind of test is he? Why is he so good? And how do you guys kind of as a unit collectively, you try to slow him down? Yeah, I think, you know, he's a great player. You know, he's one of the best in the league. And that then in that race, you know, we respected for that. But also, you know, that's the prep we have to take and take full force to, you know, whether he's practicing or not, whether he's playing or not, who knows, right? Like, but at the same time, we're prepared for him. And we're going to be prepped in the right way as if he's playing. And he's a, he's a, you know, bullseye on, on him, on his teams that, you know, we, we take very consideration of what he's done in the league and probably previous years and even up to this point. But, but no, we prepped like he's playing the game. Tyler, we appreciate you joining us, man. Good luck to you. Keep it on, man. It's been a blast to watch you guys. Appreciate it. Thank you. There you go. Starting center. Tyler Biotish of the three and one commanders on Grant and Danny tickets are available for Sunday's game at commanders.com. Thanks to them for getting Tyler Biotish on the show. Our double play is next. What's going on in our lives? Nothing to do with sports. And we're giving away tickets to the cap's home opener in 15 minutes. [silence] Big thanks to Tyler Biotish for joining us. Nice little week. Luke McCaffery on the show on Monday. Monday. Austin Echler stopped by on Tuesday. Tyler Biotish on Thursday. Maybe next week we'll work on the defensive side of the ball. Let's give them one more decent week of production. And then we'll start thinking about maybe getting some of the players on defense to join us. But I will say I like what I saw from Frankie Louvoo, Dorrence Armstrong, Jeremy Chin, Bobby Wagner, some of the new additions flying around making plays against Arizona. That was by far their best performance of the year. You start repeating those sorts of things. I think giving up 14 points is not many teams are going to do that over the course of the year in terms of average. But if you, you know, play a lot better than you did the first couple of weeks, I think, you know, some heads will start to turn. And I think, you know, the only way to go is up after they were on a record setting, not in a good way tracked through the first three weeks of the season. My buddy texted me yesterday. He said, isn't it possible that they had six or seven new starters? And it was just going to take a few weeks in a new scheme to get better. And I said, totally. Also, their quarterback and defensive end positions are not going to be a strength hard to be very good on defense when that is the case. But it might be a little from column A, little from column B. We got the tickets to the caps open or got to be listening in 10 minutes. 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That is a good breakfast. It is a great spot. So it just so happened that all three rue boys ordered pancakes and each one of us ordered a different kind of pancake for our breakfast. My oldest blueberry pancakes, my youngest chocolate chip pancakes and old Randy Duye is part of the trifecta breakfast. That's your, your eggs. You're a bacon or sausage and then a pancake. Then of course, we ordered a side of biscuits and gravy to split between the three of us, which I ate the majority of because I'm a great big fatty. Anyway, part of the dude's story is there were three different kinds of pancakes at the table. Both kids got full. I had a bite of each one. I was able to sample in direct sequence regular pancake with butter syrup, blueberry pancake butter syrup, chocolate chip pancake, butter syrup. I decided then and there, I've had pancakes with anything you can imagine in there. We've done blueberries, I've done strawberries, go raspberries. I've done, they're, so the gourmet places that'll put bacon right in there. I've done bacon. As part of it. Anything you can do, I've done peach pancakes. I've gone up and down at the ends of the earth because I love the pancake. Mango pancake. Mango. I did actually did that. You, you, do you stick? I did that in Hawaii. I did coconut pancakes too. All delicious. All good. The chocolate chip pancake is one of those, one bite of it is incredible. A second bite, still very good. By the third or fourth big bite, you're like, this is probably too much. Really? Yeah, because it's so chocolate, it's so rich. It's already a heavy food stuff as it is. And by the end of this like full allotment of pancakes, you're talking about your high stack here. I'm going, I don't know, I can finish this. I don't know if I can eat again. You know what I mean? The blueberry pancake maintains its lightness. May I ask though, is that is that the performance enhancers kicking in perhaps? No, it's a great question. And it's a fair one. It's, that's, that's a flavor profile thing. Okay. Now I'm not telling you it's bad. I'm telling you a, think about a full lumberjack portion of pancakes, right? Like you just, that's what I'm saying. Like you're a man. If you have that club in the bag. But I, hold on, but I do now, I mean, I eat a lot. But I want you to imagine we're, you and me are real men. Imagine that. I'm going to close my eyes and go to that far off. Only for a moment of the moment's gone. We were in the woods. We're chopping down trees. Yeah, flannel shirts, hat. No, no, we were not Tom Wilson, but hat pants, boots, gloves to protect our hands because we're working with the fur axis. Yeah. Right. We got low. And we're, we're, we're chopping trees, we're hauling lumber, huge, heavy morning, right? We had to work early in the morning. And when everyone else is on their way to work, we're going, we're our days done, basically. Oh, sure. We roll into first watch and you want that lumberjack stack of pancakes to fill your tummy, right? I don't know that I could do a chocolate chip pancake in the same volume that I could do a blueberry pancake or the regular pancake in the same volume makes sense. That's what I'm trying to, that's what I'm trying to say. Okay, I think that's fair. Still delicious, but my God, it's just so heavy. I think that's fair. So I think I'm ultimately ready to make a ruling here that the blueberry pancake is the best extra ingredient insert into the pancake. That's my assertion, the blueberry. Others are great. There's nothing wrong with others. It's, it's you're trying to compare people that are handsome. Like we know that Chris M's worth handsome. We know that Chris Evans is handsome. We know a lot of people are handsome. Why does one have to be more handsome than the other? But if you have to rank them, the blueberry is the Chris. I'm not a bloob's guy. I know you're not. So I'm not going to do a blueberry pancake. I just recently found out that I liked pancake. I know, I know, but I'm certainly not going to be adding fruit to them anytime. That's not, that's not your bag. You don't have to start with chocolate chips and see where that gets. We're giving away caps tickets at the top of the hour. If you want to be at opening night, you got to be listening to Grant and Danny and our beltway blitz coming up in just a few minutes here on the fan. Also, as we continue what should we expect from Jaden Daniels and the commander's offense on Sunday against Cleveland? This is the best defense statistically that they have played. And how good are the Browns defensively? I'm not so sure. We could dive in on that. But this is the best defense that's been on the schedule so far. Can they keep humming? We'll get into that early next hour on G and D. [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] The 10th caller right now at 806361067 is winning two tickets to see the capitals open their season against the Devils Saturday, October 12th, Capital One Arena for tickets and the complete cap schedule. Go to 1067thefan.com. The show is brought to you by our friends, the law firm Condorian Murad, they will help you update your last will and testament and set up a trust for you or your family. Schedule a free consultation with them right now, kmloyers.com is where you can go to do that. Tell them we sent you, you'll get a nice discount, kmloyers.com. Every day at four our Beltway Blitz, let's spin you around town. We start on the gridiron with our guy, Mike Jones of the athletic Mike Thursday night football tonight NFC South in the spotlight. The Falcons host the Bucks. What's your feel going in? You know, this is going to be a really good game I feel like because you know the Bucks obviously they look like they're the best team in this division so far but the Falcons have had two games now. The Kirk Cousins has led them the game winning drive. This is why they went out and got him. I still think they're kind of working out some more kinks so they're not quite as far along as what the Bucks are but they're at home. So I'm expecting to see a pretty close game. Mike, you know this guy. Some idiot who co-hosts the Grant Paulson in the afternoon, so I want to accept having the fan thought that Miami would be pretty good this year. With or without two, they have not looked that way. I mean, is there season about to slip away here? How important is this weekend for them? Oh, it's extremely important but I don't think that the hopes, the prospects, they're not too good for them. You know, again, you're right, too. It didn't look great but also he didn't have a real preseason. So I give guys a little bit of wiggle room in those first two, three, you know, even four weeks but you don't know when he's coming back now and you know as the old thing goes, it gets late early. And so yeah, I thought that they were going to contend for this divisional title but it looks like, you know, and Mike McDaniel's good but Skylar Thompson and Tyler Huntley ain't it? No, they're clearly not. It's amazing me. They didn't have a better plan. No, exactly, exactly. That's on Chris Greer. Totally. How about that division though? The bills were rolling until they ran into Baltimore. The Jets have not looked really great yet but they're fine, I guess. How do you see the AFC East? I think it's going to come down to the bills when in that thing because, look, the Patriots are rebuilding. They aren't close. The Dolphins, you know, I mean short of a miracle. They're not going to turn this thing around and if Tua gets back, you know, they still might be in too big a hole to climb their way out of that. I don't believe in the Jets. They got too much going on. There's already frictions. You know, you got Salah saying that, you know, maybe Rodgers needs to scale back on his hard counts and Rodgers is saying they need to hold people accountable. Look, this is only like week three and week four that you've got frictions between your head coach and this quarterback. This thing isn't going to end well. Detroit found it looked like Detroit to me this past week against Seattle. They, you know, they want a strange game against Arizona where they were the better team but didn't really thump the Cardinals the way some other teams that I can't remember who just beat them this past weekend really soundly. But anyway, it'll come to me. But they were the better team against Tampa Bay found a way to lose. Now it looked like they got some momentum going. But of course, they got their bye week. Is this still the, you know, prime contender in the NFC here or they may be closer to the pack than we thought. I don't know this. That was a weird game. They won on Monday, but they got out game like 500 and 300 something, you know, they got dominated in the time of possession. They got, you know, I don't say lucky, but two turnovers definitely helped them. And, you know, I don't know, I'm not convinced that they are the team in the NFC. I think they are a team that can make things interesting. But look, we don't know if they're even going to win their division because Brian Flores is cooking on defense and Sam Darnold looks amazing. Kevin O'Connell has been in the lab. So it could, you know, and don't forget Green Bay. So this isn't going to be a run away from the division for Detroit. So who are better teams that you would say right now are as good or better than the Lions in the NFC? Well, I think the Packers can be, you know, again, Minnesota could be. We'll see if San Francisco can get healthy than they would be. It's still really early. So they say like right now, who's better than them? Not a whole lot. But by the end of the season, you could have some company there in the NFC. Totally. Are you buying the Vikings? I am because of their defense. And also, they run the football. They understand how to take care of their quarterback and position for success. So look, when you championship teams need a defense that can get after you and force turnovers. And that's what Brian Flores is doing. I didn't think this was going to be the case, you know, coming into the season. But I think the Vikings do have a chance. Does Cincinnati get going or are they kind of on a sinking ship? No, because every year we feel like it's going to be too late. I think they will get going. They've got to figure out their run game because, you know, they're they're missing Joe mixing, but they still have Joe Burrow. They've got, you know, T Higgins is going to be rounding into foreign Jamal Chase. And so I think that they're going to be, you know, by the end of the season, they're going to be okay. They're going to be contending for, you know, a playoff spot in that division there. I wouldn't be surprised if Pittsburgh comes back down to Earth and it's Baltimore and Cincinnati duking it out for that last last one before we hop to the locals and the commanders is Doug Peterson's seat hot or just warming at this point there. Oh, and for the only team that hasn't won. He had a terrible press conference where he called players out this week. Yeah, it's not good. He can thank his lucky stars that they're going to London for two weeks. So you're not going to fire your head coaches. You're about to go to London for two weeks to be out of the country. But if they don't, you know, because they're at home this week and then London the next two weeks, if they don't come out of this thing with, you know, two wins out of these next three games, then yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. You know, it's remarkable to me. He continues to defend press Taylor who is not proven that he knows anything about being an offensive coordinator. There are people criticized him and Philly. He's here. He's still loyal to him. And, you know, this, this could be the undoing of Doug Peterson. Mike, thank you as always. But have a great weekend. Thanks. I'll see you guys. We'll see you pal. Hit that local 53 sounder. Okay, Mitch Tischner is going to talk about that local Foos ball team. Mitch, when is it okay for fans who are a little bit scarred, a little bit scared, a little bit, I don't know, afraid to commit because every time they believe for a microsecond, they've been beaten to a bloody pulp, when is it okay for them to pop their chest out and say we're for real? I mean, I think you got to say right now, you know, sometimes you got to jump up, jump back up on that horse that bucked you off and, and ride that thing. And right now, that horse is sprinting like we've never seen before here in Washington. The offense is humming their wooden football games. They're blowing teams out. I mean, I think you got to be excited right now. And if not now, when? Jaden Daniels was taken second. He won a Heisman trophy. The fact that he's planted a high level isn't shocking. I don't know that many people though, that thought Cliff Kingsbury's offense, or Kingsbury himself calling plays would be operating at this level, in this extent. What have you made of him? Yeah, I mean, I think he's done an incredible job. I think he's seen in offense as attacking teams on multiple different levels. And he's being creative about it. I mean, think back to week one, you had to double pass with Luke McCaffrey. You had the touchdown pass, the offensive lineman Trent Scott. One play that I loved this week of last week's game against the Cardinals third down at the end of the game. Alumni Zacchaeus was lined up outside. He motioned his backfield on the snap. He then turned on a diamond one right back to where he was, threw a little flare out to the right and he got eight yards and a first down. I think he's showing a lot of creativity. I think, you know, it helps that Jaden Daniels is just blossoming at an incredible rate and improving week to week more than I think any of us ever really thought that he would. And he's given them a lot of options. And Brian Robinson is running the heck out of the football. I mean, this thing is running like a like a well oil machine. Is Ben Sinitz role going to start to increase here over time, do you think? I think he's going to be on the field a fair amount. I mean, listen, one of the things that's been most impressive to me about this offense, particularly in the running game, has been the buy-in from non offensive linemen. You know, on the Jeremy Nichols touchdown, Terry McCorn was one of the lead blockers. Ben Sinitz was driving a DB back into the end zone for the second time in four weeks on a long run. You're seeing the wide receivers, the tight ends, the running backs stepping up and doing every part of this, out doing everything that's being asked of them. And Ben Sinitz has been one of those guys that hasn't caught a lot of football. He hasn't been prominent in the passing game, but he has been a big deal in the run game. He has stepped up and he's been, you know, everything that John Bates was kind of last year for this team. Having the two of those guys be, you know, almost honorary offensive linemen and doing the little things that they're doing. The coaching staff loved it, and it's only going to help them stay on the field more. Yeah, no catches. I don't even think he's been targeted at this point, but he's been running free a couple times. Occasionally, you're going to see him get the ball eventually, obviously. Hey, what's the latest with Brian Robinson? You mentioned all the success he's having. He has not practiced this week. Are we sure he's going to play on Sunday? You know, no, I don't think we're sure about it. You saw him, you know, a little hobbled at the end of that Cardinals game didn't really make a whole lot of it because because they still were moving the ball, but not practicing twice this week doesn't bode particularly well. However, this is the team that has, you know, the there is a toll on the body between the flight from Cincinnati to Arizona, spending the week out there, you know, different time zones, all the all the things that they're that they're dealing with. The guys are going to be a little little mixed up. As you know, Grant Friday's practice is going to be the one that's going to tell us if he if he doesn't practice on Friday, it's helpful that he plays on Sunday. And this is a this is a Brown defense that that has the propensity to get gash in the run game. Last week, the Raiders were averaging 50 yards a game heading into the game. They ran for a buck 50 in it. So all thoughts are that if Brian Robinson is healthy and able to go, this should be a big week for him. Yeah, I wanted to get into that. The Mitch this, you know, the week one results, I don't want to say you throw them out, but there's kind of a grain of salt with that because weird stuff happens in week one just because the way that the preseason's are handled, etc. They got destroyed by Dallas wasn't even as close as the score indicated. Since then that defense has been pretty damn good. The caveat to that is they've played three offenses that I think you the three of us could stop. So how true a test is this given past performance? You'd feel like Cleveland's defense is pretty good. And this will kind of go a long way to validating. But what do you think? What's a fair expectation this weekend against what we think is a good Cleveland day? Yeah, I mean, this will be the best defense that the commanders have played against. Maybe the bucks are close to it, but now that we're four weeks in, you have a little bit more data on them. And the Browns do a pretty good job. I mean, their secondary is full of big names across the board. And guys that, you know, you wouldn't love to see lined up across from your your number one receiver, whether you're talking about Denzel Ward or or Grant Del Pit, you know, there's a bunch of big names back there. But I think it all starts up front. Miles Garrett is one of the best pass rushers in the NFL. Maybe TJ Watt is the best and he's number two. And it's going to come down to whether they can protect Jayden Daniels. And, you know, this left tackle group, the left side of the offensive line did a really good job two weeks ago against Trey Hendrickson, who finished second in the NFL in fact. Last year, they didn't need a ton of help over there, and they were able to do it. However, Miles Garrett is a different beast. And, you know, he's played Washington twice in his career. He has three and a half sacks and a fourth fumble in those two games. That guy is a monster. And it's going to be incumbent on, you know, that Cornelius Lucas Brandon Coleman duo to do well out there and also for Jayden to have his ears up and be ready to run at any moment because as much as, you know, Miles Garrett is in practicing this week, even practice last week either stepped out there, had two sacks of Carter Minshew. So, I mean, this guy is an elite player and someone that they have to account for. Yeah, four sacks through four weeks at a sack in each of the first two games. And then the two in week four, as Mitch said, Mitch, thanks buddy. We appreciate you. Absolutely had one thing real quick for for Danny because it just strikes close to my heart. Uh-huh. Please. Last block. You guys are talking about the pancakes. Have you ever heard of the idea of a buffer pancake? So you and the boys each get the pancakes you want. They're just going to short stack of chocolate chip pancakes, and everyone gets a little bit of it and everyone's happy. Whoa. That is, that is a move. Now, Mitch, what usually that requires is a consensus. So super rare that we had anybody that's on the same page. You know, it's usually like, I don't even want to be here or some other kind of temper tantrum or whatever. But yes, if everybody's on board and we're all going on on pancake, that was certainly an option. We went with the biscuits and gravy as something that everybody wanted to sample as well as kind of our appetizer or extra side, if you will. But I love that idea and it's a good one. Listen, you're the dad. You got a certain dominance from time to time. I got to be honest, in the pancake ordering, that's the time. That's it. Call your shot. Yeah, thank you, right. Thank you, Mitch, and good insight. That's very, very sharp from our guy, Mitch Tischler, throwing back to your pancake conversation. Asserting dominance is the way to phrase it, right? But to be clear, though, he's talking about, I don't think you have to be in agreement on anything. All three of you get your own stack of pancakes. All you're sharing is the chocolate chip pancake. Exactly right. So pre-sharing, of course, is fine. The plan sharing is fine. The audible reach over to my plate and steal from me is, of course, wrong. No one should share food. Not allowed to do that. Right. That's, that's a no for me, dog. But the individual stack in the middle, we all got, we were all had more than enough pancake. You see what I'm saying? It wasn't, it wasn't an issue of pancake quantity. It just, I happen to be able to sample all three. We all got what we wanted. But he's just saying, if, if that's too much for you, it's too rich, then just have a taste. You all get a little taste, and then you get your blueberry as it were, as what you're majoring in, you're minoring, totally in the chocolate chip pancake. Pickleball did not come up in today's Beltway Blitz. I don't know why, normally it does. But do you know this, Danny, that there's going to be a pickleball movie coming out? Oh, I know. I've got, by the way, branding is so great. I've been sent that no fewer than 50 times by various people. Former American tennis champion Andy Roddick is teaming up with Ben Stiller for a new pickleball comedy. It's called The Dink. Is Dink like a shot? Yes. Okay. What is a dink? Dink is up close to the net where it doesn't bounce very high. So in other words, remember when, like, when we were playing in, in Cincinnati, if somebody bounce at the ball bounces up high, you can hit it really hard at someone. Correct. It makes sense. So what you want in a dink is a shot that goes over the other side that stays low and you got to return it as such. To make them move, to get them fine. Exactly. Gotcha. So, so the moves that I would do, if you remember, you get someone moving to get them reaching, then you get a pop up and my guy, Grant, is smacking it off people. The comedy will focus on a washed up tennis pro attempting to save the club by reluctantly playing pickleball to earn his father's respect according to IMDB. This feels very dodgeball-y. I was going to say the formula works, the machine works, so let's go. Actor Jake Johnson, who, by the way, I love, he's from New Girl. He's hilarious. He is. He's one of my favorite guys. Very dry sense of humor. He's going to play the role of the tennis pro, Mary Steenbergen. Do you know her? Yeah. She's famous. She's been in stuff. Who's she? She, I think she's the mom and step brothers. No. Yeah. I thought I would have known her name if you said it. You're, you're definitely right. That's exactly who that is. The mom from step brothers and Ed Harris are part of the cast. Ed Harris is a stud too. This is going to be good. Ed Harris, this is a little bit beneath that Harris. I agree, buddy. Ben Stiller's involved. He's like, why not? Yeah. Let's do this thing. We were just you and I talking about how there has not been a good comedy in a long, long time. I hope they get it right. And I'm not suggesting this will be the next great comedy because comedies don't get made because everyone's afraid to make jokes and everyone's afraid. They do a lot of the stuff that was considered hilarious when you and I were watching comedies with everybody else. 15 years ago in the theater, nobody's even trying anymore. Well, Farrell, I saw talking about this recently. He's like, yeah, I don't get scripts to look at anymore. Nobody wants to do any of the stuff that's funny. So we'll see what happens with this movie, but I love the idea of the premise of pickleball. Former tennis star, basically redoing dodgeball. It sounds like sign me up. I mean, the premise is so correct because that's that's pretty on point too, right? It's like, I need something to do. Let me try that. I failed at other sports. I'm too old or too bad to play the the real competitive thing. So let me go to pickle. And where's Ben Stiller been anyway? I haven't seen him in years. He has taken some time away from the game. I feel like I feel like it's probably like seven animated things that I didn't see. I'm sure. Yeah, some of them really done a true movie in a long, long time. That's what it feels like. Maybe he's just been busy crushing this script. Maybe we're going to have a masterpiece here on our hand. I'll take it. A comedic gem. We've been waiting for. We required viewing for all the picklers. What is the NFL doing with these wacky celebration flags? We'll get into that as the show continues. But next, Jaden Daniels and the commanders face a top half the league defense statistically for the first time all season when they play the Browns on Sunday. What should we expect from this elite offense that's next. a lot of people. I think it's a lot of people who are going to be able to get a lot of fun. [BLANK_AUDIO] Keep improving. Finding little ways to keep growing. I wouldn't say it's a finished product, but you know, it's just a start in. I mean, I don't really look at everything that people talk about. I mean, I see it, but other than that, man, none of that matters. That was last week's stuff. You know, he as good as the last game you played and everybody going to look at what can you do the week prior, the week prior and the weeks after that. That's Jaden Daniels, commanders getting ready to try to get to four and one over at Northwest Stadium. Welcome back. Chance to hang out with us tomorrow shows on the road. We are going to be out and about. We're broadcasting a lot from Atlas Brew Works in Alexandria. 2429 Mandeville Lane stopped by and check out Atlas's 15 taps, dozens of TVs, plus delicious pizza and wings. 2 p.m. to 630. That's when the show is the new Atlas Brew Works in Alexandria. For more info, the fan DC.com. There's this idea that the Browns are good defensively. There's this idea that this is the best defense Washington has played and statistically that's certainly the case. And maybe this will be the first true test for this offense. Before we get into the, what are you expecting from the offense against the Browns? I actually don't want to have the conversation. How good is Cleveland's defense? Because in week one, Danny, they played the Cowboys and Dak Prescott and they did not play well. But week one is sorting some things out. I think you can kind of dismiss results largely all over the league. Since then though, over three weeks, they've actually been statistically sufficient and outstanding. The problem is they played really, really bad quarterbacks. They have played recently this past week, Gardner Menchoo, who went 14 of 24 for 130 yards. They held him to a rating of 73, did a really, really good job. As good a game as that is though, Danny, I'm not overly impressed by that, which I get. I mean, the context always matters. So this is based on a couple of things to me. No, let me go through the. Oh, please go ahead. Yeah. Sorry for the Giants 21 to 15, a final where they lost to Daniel Jones in New York. Jones was good. Two touchdowns, no picks through for 235. And then the other quarterback in the three game stretch was Trevor Lawrence, which sounds like it's a challenge, except that Lawrence has actually been one of the worst quarterbacks in the league this year. And in that game, he fed more in completion 16 than completions 14. So I say all that to say, they've played three bad quarterbacks in four weeks. Yes, they're ranked ninth defensively. Yes, they're ranked eight against the pass, but I am not convinced that the Browns defense is who we all kind of thought it was going to be. Right. So the thought it was going to be is the key. That's where I was going. I mean, to cut you off earlier. Last year led the league in yards per play. Last year, we're second best to historically great Ravens defense in terms of net yards attempt, net yards per pass attempts. Right. They were excellent against the pass. Excellent in yards per play ended up being pretty good scoring defense because they had some short fields against them because they're offense was pretty terrible. They're going back stunk, but that defense hunted. They're really, really good on that side of the ball. And when good results happen, when you've got expectations, you go, okay, that fits the narrative. Right. I know. And your point is dead. Right. Each year so different, we always kind of seem stunned and surprised that you're over here with all the turnover and all the different changes that happen in the league that results may vary. But on paper, we think of it. This is one of the great defensive groups in the league. Because last year they were. And now you've got three out of four weeks with the first week, probably the sample size you throw out like the Russian judge where you'd go. Yeah, this is a really good defense. The argument against is what you just said. They haven't played anybody whose offense is clicking or worth a damn. They finished tied for number one in yards per play last year with the jets at four point five seven. They were number two defensively and yards per play in the passing game. They were really good. They were also top three last year. These are last year's numbers again in picking off passes about three and a half percent of the time. And they were sixth in sacks per pass attempt. They're always going to be okay in that stat because of Miles Garrett. Yeah, he's pretty good. They got a DPOI candidate. They were the number one defense in the league at not allowing you to stay on the field and basically move the change. They were the lowest first down team allowed in the league, 14.9 again. Now this is all last year. It's been very different, but they were the number one third down defense in the NFL right now. Washington's the number one third down offense in the NFL over 50 percent. So if you look at the more relevant 2024 stats, albeit in a smaller sample for Cleveland, what you see for them defensively is number eight overall number eight against the pass. They are not picking off any passes. They don't have one interception through four games. That's kind of weird. Well, weird considering the quarterbacks they played extremely for a team that pick passes off for team that you know is going to pressure. I mean that that hurry throw that high throw because someone's about to hit you. That hasn't happened. They haven't been that good at pressuring. Yeah. Miles Garrett has four sacks. They don't have much else to speak of outside of that. They're outside of the top 10 tied for 11th and sacks per pass attempt on third down where as I said last year, they were now right up at the top of the NFL number one this year, the Cleveland Browns on third down seventh doing a pretty good job. So I think it is a better test for sure. This is going to be more revealing than playing the Bengals who had been struggling, the Giants who haven't been very good, but I'm not willing to say yet that this is the end all be all. Like the example I'd give you is if Washington this week was playing against the Broncos defense, which has been phenomenal, or even the Jets or maybe the Steelers, like those defenses I know are really, really good. I'm not sure yet if the Browns have just benefited from schedule. So I think the Browns defense is good, but I don't know. Is that is that a way to put it? Like, yeah, that's my hypothesis. Now if we go if the let's say Washington does whatever the hell they want this weekend, just like they did Arizona. And frankly, like they did to Cincinnati and Cleveland then goes on to have a good defensive season after that. I'll go, man, how validating is that? Like if we look back a month from now at what Cleveland does post Washington or if they go on and play well against Washington defensively and then kind of continue on this track, okay, yeah, this defense is for all just like they were last year with a lot of the same personnel, a lot of the same schemes, designs, et cetera. Now they're hitting the ground running. So my hypothesis is that this is still a really good defensive group that hasn't put it all together just yet in terms of the sacks and the pressures and the turnovers. But those things are coming because that's like waves crashing on a shore. You know, it's a little bit hard for me to unsee too from just a couple weekends ago. Malik neighbors destroyed them towards them. He only, you know, the catches and yards weren't that great, but he had two amazing touchdown catches. And again, Daniel Jones was just super effective. I'll tell you where they've been really good, though, is the running game. They have basically taken your best running back out of the game, whoever that is for a given team. Travis ETN had right around 50 yards on just under 15 carries for the Jaguars. Devin Singletary had a 16 carry 65 yard game. I'm not telling you it's nothing, but you don't rip off the 30 yard. This past week against the Raiders, Alex Madison, who's the second back and this has been a theme actually had a big home run and they've given some things up to like secondary change of pace backs. But if you actually look at the Raiders Thumpers, Amir White, he averaged 2.9 a pop, 17 for 50. So it's almost like they key in on Brian Robinson, who by the way, isn't practicing again today and is very much in question, I would say right now. And then maybe it's, it's where Echler can hit him on a third and passing or you might get, if Echler is the starting running back in this game and he and Mac Nichols split time, maybe they really focus it on Echler and Mac Nichols as the guy. But it's been down the depth chart backs that have actually made some of the bigger plays against them. And they've done a really good job keying in on starting running back. Yeah. So they're down in, down out yards per attempt allowed isn't particularly impressive. But I think you've hit it really well. It's diving into those numbers and how we got there. There've been some runs ripped off against them, but it's usually, I don't know if it's like the third and give up like that old Chris Thompson draw play where they go, we're not getting this. Let's, let's get this guy, you know, eight, nine yards and then give trespassing room to punt. They've given up some yards, but down in, down out on the we think you're running, you want to run, let's have at it. They've been excellent in that regard. Also, the injury report for both teams looks like a Cinderella to-do list. I mean, there are ridiculous number of injuries for both clubs. Now, most of the Browns, I will say that are listed or limited in practice and probably end up playing. There's very few guys that just flat out are not practicing, but there's, they have a starting linebacker right now with ribs elbow triceps, not practicing. They have a starting defensive end right now with an illness who has not been practicing. They have David and Joku with the ankle did not practice. So they're super banged up coming into this game. I don't know that we could say a whole lot better about Washington. Nick Allegretti was limited yesterday. Noah Brown didn't practice yesterday. Brian Robinson still wasn't practicing today. So that's also part of this. We're getting to the point of the season for the first time where the commanders aren't going to quite be at 100% from a personnel standpoint. Yeah, nobody is, right? But neither is the opponent where for the first few weeks, it seemed like, especially in Washington's case, they had their full allotment available and maybe Allegretti goes, Noah Brown goes, Robinson goes, and it's no harm, no foul. But the missed practice time does add up. That does matter. Oh, it's, it's all it does, especially when this is new, right? You're still trying to, you know, make this stuff second nature, new scheme, new design staff. Yeah, it's all wrinkles, man. Like rounds. So now I have a month to watch and study and okay, here's where we're going to stop them. And you know what Cliff Kingsbury is doing this week is staying one step ahead by implementing new things so that when they stop the thing from last week, Washington's new thing works. Yeah, we already have a counter to it, right? Yeah. So I'm still thinking of this as the best events they've played so far. I'm thinking of this as the best events they'll play until they have some of those other teams that you mentioned on their schedule, Baltimore's defense, Pittsburgh and maybe a couple others. So this will be a really interesting test. Again, this is the first time they've dealt with a pass rusher like this in Miles Garrett, assuming that he plays, assuming that he goes. So I'm really curious to see what the plan is. I'm curious to see how they handle it, right? Is this one of those? Now we're confident we'll let Lucas and Coleman just play football against him. Maybe a mistake, but let's see. Is it, we might have to sacrifice some things and early on in the game, just say for the sake of argument, think about the old Joe Gibbs way. We're going to run at this defensive end all the time. Even if it means we, he stops us for a loss, stops us for one, stops us for two. We make that guy pursue and tackle, pursue and tackle for huge chunks of the game, then maybe you tie them out a little bit when you want to drop back and pass it and have the same juice. We chip and we bother them every play. Maybe that's the way. I'm fascinated to see what they do. On the other side of the ball, this should be a week where the defense is able to string a second straight quality performance together because the Brown's offensively and particularly at the quarterback position with the Sean Watson have just not played very well. They have good weapons. That doesn't matter. It hasn't mattered at all. I mean, they have not been able to move the football consistently or score. I think this is the best defense they're playing to. Although with all the time to prepare and the great design and calling of Todd Bowles, maybe I'd give Tampa Bay of slight nod just because of the extra time going in a week one, maybe. But when I open up the phones on this for you guys at 800-636-1067, do you consider this to be a big time test for this offense that all of a sudden is the talk of the NFL? And do you feel like this is a potential regression spot or do you think they can keep the train on the tracks here and continue to move the ball the way that they have? MGM National Harbor listener lines available at 800-636-1067. We're Grant and Danny on the fan. [BLANK_AUDIO] Danny the Orioles lost their 10th consecutive playoff game yesterday at Camden Yards. They lose to the Royals. They got swept out of the wildcard round in two straight games. I saw it. Nat's fans were taking great pride in trolling on social media. I guess I get the geographical rivalry. I really do, but I will never understand. I don't know. Like those fans, I grew up a diehard Orioles fan myself. The Nat's weren't around like so many people my age and older, but they're they're all around us. Like they're your buddies, they're on your text chain. I don't know. I've never really understood the Nat's fans who take great pride in the Orioles losing our vice versa. They're two different leagues that they're completely harmless in so many ways. It's like for me personally, with the Nat's out, I wanted to see the O's go on a run. They haven't won a World Series since '83. So many amazing memories from my childhood at Camden Yards. I got family members that are still diehard Orioles fans, but it was funny to see last night all of the glee being taken within the Nat's fan base that they lost. Yeah. So again, I'm with you. I understand it too. I think I understand more than you that the dynamic and how unusual it is and how there's a resentment that I think has always come from Baltimore towards Washington, then you add in this carve out because you already mentioned it. Neighbors are Orioles fans. Like the guy across the street from you was in Baltimore's territory. Now there's a team of our own in Washington and everyone must choose one. I don't know. I mean, to me, if Washington's competing and the Orioles are competing, I get a lot more anxiety about it, but it's like, I'm not really worried about the fact that I got a 91 loss team right down the street for me. You know, if the Orioles win lose or draw, it's fine. I didn't take as much glee or pride as I think maybe a lot of Nat's fans do. There's been a lot of talk about realignment in Major League Baseball though. And this idea that they'll add a team and they'll get to essentially be a point where they're going to realign the divisions. And it's almost a certainty if and when that happens and it might be five years away, it might be longer. Most people are predicting that in the next handful of years, something like this will take place. The Nat's and the O's would be in the same division almost certainly. Yeah. And when that happens, now we got ourselves a situation. Now that's a development. What would be the new, if you had to guess, I mean, obviously this is impossible, what would be the new division? Let's say there'd be what, five teams? Yeah, I think it would be potentially something like Yankees, Mets, Orioles, Nationals. Phillies right there? Probably Phillies. Oh, man. I mean, you could do like a Northeast, honestly, where the Yankees, Mets, Phillies, Red Sox, Toronto or something are all together. And then maybe the Orioles luck out. Excuse me, the Nat's and the Orioles both luck out. And it's like O's, Nat's and you get the Marlins. Maybe the Braves are in there. So what about like a mid Atlantic division? So it's Nat's Orioles, Phillies, Pirates. Love it. And then maybe, I don't know, the fifth thing would be then you have like a Southeast one, which is like Marlins, Braves, teams down in that general direction. I don't know. I just know that when it was done, I could pull up the divisions. Jim Bowden actually at one point for the athletic, did the realignment, but he had the O's and the Nats together. And I was like, yeah, that's such a no brainer because the idea is with a lot of these geographies where they were in different leagues. Think about like the, the A's and the Giants, although now that they're going from Oakland to Vegas, it'd be different. But the Angels and the Dodgers, like such a huge deal when they played each other. Yeah, it's the, the, all of those cross town rivalries, if they're in the same division, I mean, that's just good for sports. Do you, do you think, do you not think that the Orioles rivalries with say the Yankees and the Red Sox is something that they wouldn't want to touch? Well, if you're realigning, then you're touching it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Then, then you shouldn't realign. Like that's what it's basically the conference thing with college football, in my opinion. So in other words, with, with college football, if you wanted Maryland to keep playing Duke in North Carolina, they got to stay in the ACC. Now that wasn't necessarily conference realignment as much as it was Maryland jumping, but Maryland can't have it both ways, right? Where they're like, we want the money of the Big Ten, but also we need our rivalries. I think if baseball wants the rivalries to remain the same in the division, then you just, you don't realign. If you're real the different AFC division with different, you know, the AFC South wasn't a thing yet, and the Cardinals were in the NFC East, I just think it's new rivalries probably that are created. Or you keep a carve out for the special ones. Like with all due respect to these franchise, they've been good at various points. But like the Tampa and Blue Jays, part of the AL East, not as sacred as that Yankees Red Sox Orioles thing, right? Here's what I'll say for Dearest's point. The Yankees and the Red Sox are never not going to be in the same division. Baseball would not do that to itself. Right. Are the Orioles and the Yankees such great rivals? Now, this could be sacrilege to some Orioles fan out there, but is that rivalry so good that they would have to be in the same division? They probably should be. It's what we know. But come on, who's the Yankees biggest rival? It's Boston, right? Yeah, of course. Could the Orioles be okay if now you're in a division with Washington instead, and you don't have the Red Sox and the Yankees, and like you're saying, you got the Nats and the Pirates and maybe it's the Phillies, right up 95. I mean, there's going to be quirky ones. There's it's just not going to work out that everyone's right next door. There's going to be some like Diamondbacks in the Central or whatever. Yeah, I'm just making this up. It's like you have your sacred cutouts, right? Like in the Central, Cubs and Cardinals have to be in the same division. In the East, Mets and Phillies have to be in the same division in the West. Padres, you know, maybe or Dodgers Giants have to be in the same one. That sort of thing where you keep a few secrets and then you can kind of rearrange everybody else. I would, but I don't know if teams get but hurt or owners get but hurt by that or thing. I would do that. I didn't plan on doing this for the full segment, but it's fun. All right. So this was Jim Bowden wrote this for the athletic in February of this past year. So coming up on a year. All right. So he basically did the realignment for baseball. He said for the Eastern Conference, Allah, basketball and hockey, the East Division, Boston Red Sox, New York Mets and Yankees and the Philadelphia Phillies. There's your East Division. The North Division in the Eastern Conference would be the Cincinnati Reds, Cleveland Guardians, Detroit Tigers and Toronto Blue Jays. So you've got three from the Central kind and then the Blue Jays, the Mid-Atlantic division. This is a little bit silly for the Washington Nationals. By the way, this is all based on an expansion team and that's why they're realigning hypothetically. So like his, his was the Baltimore Orioles, the Washington Nationals, the Pittsburgh Pirates and then the Charlotte expansion team. The Charlotte expansions is the cylinder. Exactly. Southeast Division braves Marlon's race and the Nashville expansion team. Okay. So that's the two new teams because they're going 30 to 32. That's the whole, that was, but this was based on that report. Western Conference in the Midwest, you go Cubs, White Sox, Brewers, twins. So the twins essentially joined the, the NL Central. Yep. A couple of teams with the White Sox. Then in the Southwest, you'd have the Astros, Royals, Cardinals and Texas Rangers, which I think works in the Pacific. He says you've got the Rockies, the Las Vegas A's, the Seattle Mariners and the San Francisco Giants. And then in the West, you've got the Diamondbacks, Angels, Dodgers, Dodgers and Padres. So it actually kind of works out geographically really well, assuming that's where those two teams yeah that are being thought about, that are still a gleam in their parents eyes, so to speak. Yeah. Miss like, there's, I know it's not the same out here, but Dodgers, Giants mean different divisions. That's tough for me. That's tough. That one's hard. Yeah. Okay. I mean, they're, and they're going to be a couple. I mean, I tried to catch them all as you, as you read. I think that one stands out more than others. Yeah. I mean, just because that, you know, that the B.D.LA sort of vibe is, is, has always been a thing. But that's, dude, that's fun. I like that. What do we expect from Daniels and Washington's offense against the Browns? We'll get into that next on G and D. 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They have 15 taps, I believe, at this particular location. I'm going to eat some pizza tomorrow. It's a bold claim. Big bold prediction. Talking tough on Thursday. I'm going to eat some pizza tomorrow. Pizza. My prediction is that the commander's offense comes back to the pack a little bit and that's just more a natural regression and that it's impossible to sustain what they've done than it is really about the Browns. I think Miles Garrett probably gets a sack. I can see a sack and a half for him, but I don't think Cleveland is good enough defensively to really scare me. I think they're fine and they're not a good team. You look at what the Browns have done this season. They've scored 17, 18, 15, and 16 points. Danny, the commanders are going to beat the Browns. They haven't taken advantage of bad defenses to the degree that you'd go, okay, Washington might be slowed a little bit, which is normal, right? Against just natural regression and against the defense that we find in some common ground is at least pretty good, if not good, right? So you're going to sit on a little bit. You go, okay, even though their offense hasn't been great, they're playing Washington's defense, which to this point, Arizona, that was standing has been pretty poor. So you could say Cleveland might be dangerous here. I'm with you. This offense is wretched, despite the fact that I like Jerry Judy, Nick Jubb probably is coming back. Amari Cooper is a great route runner and a pretty good player, but they're, they've not been good on that side of the ball despite playing a couple teams that are pretty terrible on their own, right? This feels, dare I say, like a win to me, Santa fell, crazy stuff happens, huge, you know, overdogs lose and underdogs look great and, you know, the whole nine, but every time I do a thing where I go, okay, this plus this is this win. Well, what if they do it this way, win, this feels like a win to me, which is terrifying. I'm probably supposed to apologize after saying that, but that's how I feel. We're at a point though, where, and it has happened very quickly. We are now expecting them to handle prosperity. We are now while they're favored with everybody picking them saying, yeah, they are going to win and not expecting that they're going to come up small, that they're going to play down to the level of their competition. That in and of itself is new territory. Yep. And if you were listening right now, it should bring a smile to your face. I mean, this is all kind of uncharted water. Certainly over our time doing a show together in the early part of a season, not only have they never been three and one, think about that, since Danny and I started the show together back in 2014, a decade, it's never happened not once. But to be three and one and to feel like it's not just that you took advantage of schedule, that a couple of stars align and you beat some bad teams. Now, this would be a really legitimate authentic four and one start to their season. I think they're going to be Cleveland. Did not have them beating the bangles. I thought they'd lose, but I did feel like they'd compete in that game because I wasn't sold on the bangles. You remember, had them beating Arizona and to just expect something and have them not let you down was so refreshing. We'll see if it happens twice in as many weeks. I'll be honest though, if they lose to the Browns, it's not like it's going to go from 60 to zero for me. I'm not going to say, Oh, same old team. Here we go again. Yeah, I'm past that. I think they give the Ravens a hard time next week. Now Baltimore is a terrible matchup for them. Terrible. The Ravens have a chance with, I think it's 150 some rushing yards this week. They'll be the fifth team in of the decade to rush for that number of yards through five games. Yeah, I think they're going to out Washington, Washington in that game. In other words, their version of Brandon Robinson's a whole family name, Derek Henry. They got Henry. They got more Jackson and they can run the football better than any team in the NFL and Washington can't stop the run. So it's just a bad matchup, but I do think they're still going to get Baltimore fits. I do think that's going to be a good football game. Like we're at a point now where if we feel that way going on the road to the Ravens, you're going to feel that way most weeks. Is there a game they could play this week in the NFL where you would feel like the Washington commanders don't have a really good chance to win? No, the best team in the league supposedly right now is the Vikings at foreno. Sorry, don't scare me. You want to say it's the Chiefs looking for a third straight super bowl at foreno. They've lost their starting running back. Isaiah Pacheco, their starting wide receiver, rushy rice, Travis Kelsey looks 100 at his first decent game of the season. This past week, Patrick Mahomes is turning the ball over. They're not really scoring, leaving people in their wake. Who scares you? They can be in every single game. I think that's a good way to put it. So I'm looking at Cleveland specifically. We're now, and again, this is also funny because this is based on a week where I picked them to lose against incident. I thought they get smacked wrong. I thought they would lose Arizona in a competitive game because I thought they would miss Austin Echler wrong. So now I've, in my own sort of personal view, gone from, yeah, they're not for real to, yeah, I think this is a nice thing, a nice story, a nice team. They'll be competitive, we're growing. They might drop this one because they missed Echler to, I'm pretty confident, they'll beat a team that's at the bottom of the same bucket that they're in. That's pretty precipitous. That's a pretty large gap between where I was last Monday and Cincinnati to whatever this is, 10, 11 days from that moment. So I, if they don't play well, let's say they drop this game to Cleveland, which is not outrageous, by the way, it happens. I mean, look all around the league. There's two undefeated teams you just touched on. Weird, crazy, bleep happens all the time. Teams don't show up. The other team is a better plan. Whatever the case, Renaissance game from Deshawn Watson. Who knows? He lose this game and don't look competitive. It's still not going to have me go same old, same old. I'm not there. Now we turn in three straight weeks of getting boat raced and everybody's figured you out and you can't get right and Daniels is sacked and it looks like the first half against Tampa when it's nothing but scrambles and they don't know what they're doing and the defense still stinks. We can go back to having the same old, but to me, I'm now miles down the road and I can look back and go, I can't even see same old anymore. I could see. Oh, that was a bummer. Let's let's see what happens next week. I'll turn the page. It won't be a referendum to me. I got a tweet from Mr. Chan here at Grand H. Paulson at Funny Danny. You want to hit us up via social. He said, didn't we go seven and one under Alex Smith before injury? No, I know they did not, sir. You are misremembering a bit. It started the year one. Excuse me, two and two, I should say, they beat the Cardinals, lost to the Colts, beat the Packers at a bi-week and then lost to the Saints. So they were two and two and then they ripped off three in a row to get to five and two. Then they were six and three going into that Texans game when he broke his leg was a competitive team. But even that any of these fleeting seasons where they were decent to start a year, it's never been like this where you felt like maybe you had the answer on a rookie contract and the offense just hasn't hummed this way in a long, long time. Edwin, Silver Spring, you're on GND. What's good? Hey, y'all. I feel like, like you said, it's not going to be the same old skills for me. I feel that, but I don't see a struggle. I really do. I see a challenge. I don't see us not getting 25 points there. I really, really do. And on the Orioles, there's every reason for that transfer trash software. Every reason. When they act like they're more fandom, like they go harder than we do, they do not. When you look at the numbers, when they're struggling, they don't go to that stadium. One, two, they act like they accomplish more than one. Fairness, not a lot of people go to Nat's Park either, if we're being honest. Yeah, but not more people go to Camden Yards when they're struggling. They act like it's a smaller market, but okay, that's fine. They do not. And then, they don't accomplish anything. We ask them, my favorite things you will all your scientists ask, when last you went to World Series? And they don't like they're embarrassed to see the number or they, or it's been so long ago that they forget. It makes me laugh every single time. Right. But they do look cute in their orange, the orange Hawaiian print shirts and their pocket has one of those. They have a nice little stop. That is a good look. Yeah. Thank you, buddy. Thank you. No, I think for me as someone who I'm just a little bit caught in the middle, whatever that song is, who can see both sides of it having been on the behind enemy line, so to speak. I just like that both sides pretend like the other side is the aggressor. Really, it's like, no, you both do that a lot. It's like Nationals fans act like Orioles fans are insufferable to them, but don't actually and any like, oh, we don't talk about them. Like, well, what about this? Like, oh, that was in response to them. I just think they don't like each other very much. It's a geographical thing. By the way, Nat's fans should despise the Angelos family, the late Peter Angelos and the family for making it hard for the Nat's to exist. Like, I'm on your team. I'm from the DMV. I'm a DC area guy. I wanted baseball in DC too. That I understand, but I don't get like holding that against Gunnar Henderson. Right. Being upset at Adley Ruchman for it is all. But yeah, I think the banter between the fan bases is fun, but we don't need to necessarily religiously. Yeah, it's the whole point of having meaningful sports is that you end up with some rivalries. You know, like, it's been a while here, but remember how annoying it was that Philly fans came in to the ballpark and they were getting bused down and everyone was all up in arms about that. We were supposed to be taking back the park or the stupid Mets fans to serve in Troy and Ormi for like Matt Harvey, Chanton and Boo and the Nat's when they took the field. Like, that's where stuff's annoying, but that's also kind of the fun of having a competitive team that matters for sure. What if Brian Robinson doesn't play on Sunday? I really had not considered that possibility. And if I could peel back the curtain a little bit, I assumed because they put him on the radio today that he was just trending in the right direction. He's not going to go on the radio and talk if he's not going to play on Sunday. But maybe I'm overthinking it. He didn't practice today. I guess there's no way really to know that he's going to be fully healthy or able to play. We said last week that because Austin Echler didn't play their offense was going to miss him and was going to take a step back. Not only did they not miss Echler, who's been super effective this season, but their offense without him basically didn't miss a beat. They were just playing out awesome. Nick Nichols was every bit as good as Echler's been at any point this season. I don't think you could sustain that over a full year if you're Jeremy McNichols. But for one week, he elevated his game. He played like Austin Echler. They don't really have another version of Brian Robinson, though, in terms of, hey, wear them down, be heavy, be physical, lean on people. I've long thought he's underrated for his vision and some of the stuff he does between the tackles anyway. But that does feel just like we said about Echler we're wrong about. I would do it again. That would feel like a pretty sizable loss. He's got 100 yards in two of the last three weeks. Yeah. And he's their guy that does that. In other words, there's like, when they had Chris Rodriguez behind him, you would have not someone that is good as Robinson, but there's your one a thumper or your or your level two thumper. They've got two scatbacks in Echler and another version of that. McNichols who's a blitz pickup guy who's a little bit more wiggle, a little bit more burst, but not what Brian Robinson does, where he's punishing people where he's between the tackles, earning some of those hard yards that you have to do to set up everything else. So that is a, a, you know, it's that dynamic that you don't have Robinson on the season 40 yards against the bucks. They were behind in that game. They didn't really get to run it in the second half. So I dismissed that one a little bit. They've basically had three games out of the four where I would say offensively they were able to be what they wanted to be. Is that fair? Giants, Bengals, Cardinals, just based on game script, they got to stay balanced and do what they wanted. 17 for 133, 16 for 33, and 21 for 101. We don't talk a lot about that Bengals game, but hey, I can't believe how much they committed to him considering he averaged 2.1 a pop. I don't remember a time around here when a guy got 16 carries at two yards per. It tells you there was a purpose to it. Totally. You know what I mean? Not just do it to, to, to yell about physicality and establishing the line of scrimmage and establishing the run and pretending we're in the 80s. There was a, we are setting things up off of this. We are going to make sure that you have to cover this so we can get to something else. But in that game, when the Bengals said we're taking Brian Robinson away, Austin Echler averaged 11 yards per care. Yep. Remember, Jaden Daniels ran the ball 12 times for 40 yards and had some real back-breaking scrambles. Never ripped anything off. The Bengals spied him a little bit, did some things where his long, I think was seven yards, but he was around the line of scrimmage constantly picking up those first downs, spinning, getting out of bounds, occasionally getting down, avoiding contact. If the plan for Cleveland is to shut Brian Robinson down if he plays, Austin Echler, who is questionable, but did practice today, becomes that much more important. I guess there's a possibility that both Robinson and Echler couldn't go. And then it's McNichols and you're elevating somebody from the practice. Michael Wiley, maybe. I don't know. Yeah. That is. But Echler told us for what it's worth on this show on Tuesday when he joined us, he fully expected the play. So I take him at his word that barring something out of his control, he's going to be on the field. Yeah, he would certainly think so. But again, it's that that protocol is the protocol. That's not one, the ones you can cheat. You can't really get to say, my arm feels fine. Yeah. You know, like, hey, skip, I'm feeling good today. Whether or not that's it's your call. So you're hopeful that you've got both. And this is just what you do about nothing. I'm like, tomorrow will really tell the story. But if there is no Robinson for a week, that'll be interesting. Because now I was wrong last week, just in my assessment, make sure I say that. But I thought, okay, not having Echler in that little easy button. We think of easy as the Deshaun Jackson or Tyree kill, where you go for an 80 yard touchdown. But to me, the easy is, you flip the ball out to Austin Echler behind the line of scrimmage and he goes for 14. Like that's an easy first down. He made that play. Yeah, a couple of guys blocked it up nice, but he's wiggling, he's zinging and zagging and spinning off people delivering a blow at the end finishing, falling forward. He's the easy button that turns a little thing into a medium thing where it gets your first down to keep the chains moving. Not having that, I thought would really set them back. And in a smaller alert, it did not have scored 42 points and we're awesome. I wonder what it would look like the other way though, not having Robinson and that ability to thump because that's not where the points come from. But the things that get you the points may be come from doing that enough to set it up and show B Rob right now is number nine in the NFL and rushing attempts and number 10 in the league and rushing yards. If you account for everybody because Lamar Jackson has more than him. If you just look at running backs, he's ninth in rushing attempts. He's ninth in yards. He's averaging almost 4.8 a pop. So that he basically would be right outside of the top five in yards per attempt. He's having a great year, but I know it's easy to say because he's had two monster games out of four. He's had basically bad game statistics. I don't mean performance wise, but he didn't do much against Tampa at 40 yards. Didn't do much against the Bengals at 33. So it's been like little game, huge game, little game, big game. Still 300 yards through four games and he's on pace for over 1200 yards this season. In a year where the league is trending back to running the football, he's a top 10 guy at the position. So it would feel like a pretty sizable loss if the commanders did not have him. We'll let you know what the word is out of Ashburn. If anything comes out as the day goes on, but he did not practice today. Next, I want to talk about two flags that were thrown on what I think are nothing burger fun celebrations that should not have been penalized. And I want to see who is bothered by this? Like what is the NFL trying to protect exactly next on GND? [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] Grant and Danny on the fan to penalties this weekend that got called that I thought were absolutely outrageous Danny in the NFL. I want you to help calm me down. What am I missing here? The first was on Alan Lazard of the Jets. He catches a pass in that rainy game against the Denver Broncos. They're moving down the field. He's sitting on his butt, legs out in front of him, toes up like he's doing the V-sit and reach. And he proceeds to, I'm going to call it double guns. But I would say that's a little bit misleading, okay? Not even quite the hall of notes, double guns that you and me and nerds do. Hey, what's up to the sky? How you doing over there? He's not doing that. He's doing the like, if you make the shape of a gun with your fingers kind of, and then you put the other fingers together and just kind of go back and forth, like, hey, let's do this. We're going that way. Like that kind of celebrating, pointing in the direction they're going, not shooting at anybody, not to none of that. It's just I'm a cool guy. You're a cool guy. Come on guys, let's shake it back. Big play. Big first down. Nobody can catch passes. No one can throw the ball. No one can get yards. It's raining. There's a quarterback with negative yards at halftime in this game. They flag him for a 15 yard penalty for unsplared sportsman like Conda. Because they deemed it to be, I guess, anything involving a gun essentially gets you penalized, right? Now I will, I will admit, so there was a game. Let me think of what it was. It was the Drake London catch coming over to the sideline after the game winning touchdown against the Eagles. When he came over to the sideline and he proceeded to like, what appeared to be shoot like a machine gun or something celebration into the air. Like he was just spraying a magazine into the air with his fake machine gun right in front of the referee and they flagged him and were like, hey, dude, it's in the rulebook, man. Come on, man. You can't mock a firearm and you can't fake shoot things out here. We're not doing that. I got that. I totally get that. If you pretend you've got a gun and you're shooting or whatever, yes, sure. No problem. This was not that. This was little finger guns thing where he's going back and forth. And I can't stress this enough, Danny. It's not like he like loaded his finger and cocked it and shot it. Like Jordan Reed used to do. If you remember that celebration, it was not that. The other one that drove me nuts was, first of all, did you see that that play with Lazard? I did. Yeah. Thoughts. I don't know how to describe it besides using the term finger guns. So immediately, someone's going to hear that and go, yeah, but you already said I don't know how to explain the gesture unless you've seen it. It's clearly not what you think of when you think of finger guns. Correct. It's the same thing I would do. It's like double points. Yeah. Like if I want to shoot a rubber band and I stretch it between my thumb and four finger and I did that a couple times and it's like, yeah, I would do it with this guy. How you doing? It's not a finger guns thing. It's not. It's a Hey, what's up with this guy kind of thing. It's not finger guns. Like finger guns to me is different. It sounds like a key and peel sketch where it's like a third pump's going to get you. Yeah, it's like like you said finger guns. Yeah, you said it's like if you only and now we're getting to the new show finger guns, I'll go all day on this. Like if my thumb comes down to indicate a shot, okay. I don't think you even shoot with your thumb. Well, I'm just saying but I'm showing I'm letting you know like actions happen. If I come down on my thumb like this, what just happened? A shot. I don't think so. But I'm just I'm minding some sort of shooting, right? Like all I'm doing here is sort of like, like, can I not have. I think the pointer. Can I pretend I'm holding anything? Now we're going to get really deep. If he pulls the pointer finger back, that's another one. That's mimicking shooting. There's there's no indication of any shots fired here. He all he's doing. Yes. Is he's doing the way I would describe it. Like, what was he doing? What happens in life when you do that? It's like, gotcha, clary. I gotcha. One of the if you're on YouTube right now, I'm going to do it to the cameras. 106 7 the fan YouTube chat. You guys get the luxury of seeing this, but it's one of those like, hey, Danny. Yeah, I hope you moved your car. Uh huh. They're they're going to be towing all the cars at six o'clock because of the maintenance there. Oh, God, crap. I'm going to go. Gotcha. Who's your guy? Like it's not even shooter McGavin level. Alan Lazar, but it's kind of shooting Alan Lazar got penalized for that in the National Football League as a grown ass man, a grown adult taking on other grown men, other grown adults. I can't have it. I'm sorry. I can't do it. It doesn't need to be a big political debate. I'm not picking aside because I agree with what I agree with you guys, but I'm just telling you he doesn't need to be penalized for that. Okay. The other one was Jeremy McNichols. Jeremy McNichols, who has been on 12 NFL teams in his career, 12, who got to play because Austin Eckler was unavailable, who got a very rare chance to get on the football field. They say act like you've been there before. What if you never get to be there, right? What if in your entire journeyman career that dates back seven years, eight years, you've been there once with your loan touchdown in the pandemic year of 2020, because there was a COVID outbreak on your team or whatever. What if that's the time you got there? So he gets in the game and he's having a field day 27 yard tuddy rips off another one exclamation point to win the game. He does the old Josh Norman, not even to the extent that Norman did it. Okay. Norman would would basically grab the arrow out of the pouch on the back. He did it in a cool way. He would like shoot the arrow, pull the bow back and let it rip and he'd watch it fly. McNichols did a really quick, less weapon version of that, I would say, penalty. Unsportsman like who are you protecting? Who are you worried about? I cannot believe these are the types of things the league cares about. I can't Fernando Rodney in Major League Baseball who pitched forever for the Rays and some other teams he was on the nats during the World Series team. Thank you. That's World Series champion Fernando Rodney. He was horrific in the playoffs and for much of the regular season, but he has a World Series ring. Yep. He used to have this awesome celly. Do you remember his cell? Of course. Yeah. Because hats not on straight. You have to start there. Like you just could never put it on straight. Like you probably could have, but he never did. You're so old. Straighted it up. You're so old. And maybe facing straight. I love how he wore his hat. Yeah, that you did. He cocked it to the side. What's wrong with that? What's wrong with having hair that you can say? What do you mean? Well, people have hair. Sometimes. So what? So like, you can't have long hair on Grant's team. Tell me I'm old. Put your hat on straight also. It's a uniform. Put your hat on straight. Yeah. Or tilt it to the side. Yeah. Just tuck your hair in it. That's all. Yeah. That's all you got to do, right? Anyway, Fernando Rodney would, after every save, he'd walk down the mound and he would have like one or two teammates come over to watch and he would pretend to pull that bow out, rosin it up my bow and he would shoot it into the sky and he would like track it with his hand and he'd point up and everyone would like follow this fake. It was just a thing every game in baseball. The no fun like baseball where nothing is allowed. Where if you look at me, I'm going to hit you. If you don't look at the right dugout, you are villain number one, Brian McCann is still. Oh, he's still upset. The houses of people who wronged him in 2006 because they didn't run fast enough out of the batter. Did you disrespect the a that sport goes. Hey, look at Fernando Rodney. Cool celebration. That's fun. And the NFL penalizes you 15% of a football field after a touchdown for your one half second arrow shooting celebration. Get out of here with that. So remember when Ronda Vera who's on the competition committee was talking about like the idea that players in this highly competitive, you know, alpha situation, getting in car wrecks time after time might say something to one another. And that became the point of emphasis. Like, what if after I run you over or I just stiff armed you into oblivion, I mentioned that you just got stiff armed into oblivion. If I say something to you, we got to penalize that. We can't have anything that might lead to anything that might lead to anything that might also lead to something that might be construed as men having a verbal disagreement that might lead to a punch being thrown or a shove or something like that. Whereas it's like in hockey, it's like, well, listen, this one check was a little hard on the good player. So we're going to have a guy walk around and drop his gloves in the hopes to both get five minute majors and everyone claps hard. Like, it's just such a weird thing to me that in this incredibly violent game, there's not even you're not even allowed to express any of it verbally that that's a point of emphasis wrong. This is nonsense. If you want to get rid of something, let's get rid of choreographed river dances. Let's get rid of everyone's going, rho, rho, rho, your boat. We scored a TD. I'm wasting play clock time. The special teams are trying to take the field. What are we doing? Let's get rid of that. You don't have to get rid of that either. If we're going, I'd love to. If we're picking something to rid ourselves of this guy, that should be fine. The this guy should be fine. The okay, everyone, like to rehearse a one and a two and jazz hands. No, let's get rid of that. Act like you've been there once. Be a professional for seven seconds. You could be happy to have fun. I can't believe it's the point of emphasis. I can't believe it real quick. Which old folks home are you going to be at tonight for people to stop by and see their haircut requirements in order to get in? So you know what I'm saying? You got to do that. If you guys want to go see Danny, I believe he's going I'll find the one he's at. There's an old folks home right off. If you don't like people celebrating, stop them from scoring. If you don't like that, stop them from scoring. Alan Lazard had stood up already and was halfway back to the huddle before he was even informed by his teammates. Hey, they threw a penalty on you. It took note. This is how quickly a celebration was ready. Started. Stopped. That's what it was. That was the time where they got and then you see the referees come together and the head ref is like, what'd you got over there? What's the flag? What was it, man? And he literally does the motion. He's like, Oh, he did guns. He did guns. He took out a mimic mock firearm, shot off several rounds into the air and then return like nothing was wrong. Let's get him. And the head referee actually is is like, you could see it. This. I mean, this is all this video is out there. What posted and he's like, you're sure you're sure you saw this? You're sure you want to penalize them 15 yards? He's like, yeah, he did it. He did the guns. And Alan Lazart standing there like, come on, bro. Really? And he's like, okay, fine. And then he makes the announcement. How about we don't do that? The Jeremy McNicholsting was over before anyone noticed it. So my question to you, Danny Ruye, or to anyone else who would like to try to answer it at 800-636-1067. Who is benefiting from this? Who are they protecting exactly? Generally, you're doing something for a reason. What is the argument? Now, again, if we're Jordan Reed used to do this thing where he would like seemingly cock a glock, like pull it back and shoot in the direction where they're going. If you want to say, probably not a lot of value in that, I don't know if that's good for the brand. I get that, right? That there are some things you could do that drink London one. I'm just spraying into the air. I don't know why we need to endorse or support that. We won't. But we're going that way. The arrow people getting shot with arrows outside the stadium, I doubt it. Who are we protecting? My kid, my son, we're going to have a tough conversation me and him where he goes, dad, why did he point like that? What was that motion that he just did? Oh, he shot an arrow into the sky, son. What am I missing? As by the way, I'm sitting next to him adding another $100 into my gambling account, right? You know what I'm saying? Legally now, as players are, I mean, all these things have softened, whether it's marijuana being okay for players and all this stuff. But don't point in the direction and the shape of a finger gun. What? The premise will be, or the idea will be, it's something something kids, right? That's said. Yeah. And I'm normally on that side for the record. I just think this is a bridge to fall. Well, here's, here's where I'm going with it. And that's what that's what they'll say. It's, you know, it's about the kids and we want to make sure that we're, we're protecting them from saying it. So imagine if it was my house, for example, like, Hey, don't watch this, go do something else, like what, dad, I don't know, go play Fortnite, which is what you play on a nightly basis. Now, maybe you could say that's my failure as a parent, but they'll find that they'll find it pretty quick is my point. Like you're not protecting anybody from anything. If you really want to do this, I'm not talking to you personally, but if you're the NFL, then I need you to not have the horror movie trailer that every time there's a touch back and before the offensive possession starts, from a mind that brought you this terrifying, gory thing. Here's a masked person who's doing something for no reason. It could happen to you. You can't do that. He's under your bed right now. Who are we protecting? If you'd like to protect people from stuff and not let them be exposed to those deals, then let's curb a whole bunch of the messaging that you're selling us on an hourly basis. And my point is you won't. So let's stop the charade. I agree with whatever anyone in their car thinks right now. Of course I do. I want it known on the right side. I had to mute my TV during a commercial. Yeah. During it was a political ad, but like my kids were looking at me like, what's what is this? And I'm like, oh, it's a football game. The football. It's a football. And I'm like moody, like grabbing from my remote, like just commercial. Settle down with, uh, we're going that way. Be in the penalty. You can settle down with that. Read the room a little bit. 80636. 106.7. You guys want to hop in. I'm pro. Like I hate when people are cursing during live interviews. Please be a professional. Remember the old JJ Redick thing? Everyone got mad at me because I want a little decorum. I'm all for the decorum, but if you're sitting on your butt, you just got tackled in the game of gladiators and you point in the direction shooter, McGavin style with your, your two pointer fingers. And in the, the, the half second that you did that, the referee saw it and penalized you more than the first down catch you just got. I think we could probably do it a different way. I think I think you can hop in on the MGM national Harbor listener lines. What do men need to do two times a week to stay healthy? No, no, no, it's not that, but what do they need to do two times a week to stay healthy? That's next on G and D. Oh. [BLANK_AUDIO] Danny, the thing men need to do two times a week to be healthy? According to a study, have guys' nights. Oh, two times a week. Twice a week? That's a lot. Now, I'm imagining that's more mental health and physical health because most guys' nights, and I mean, you're, your guys' nights are like playing pickleball in your backyard, but for most people, a guy's night, you're at a bar, you're eating something fried, you're probably drinking. So I don't know that physically two guys' nights a week is going to help you be healthier. Who could do that? I don't know. I mean, when's the last time you had two guys' nights in one week? When I went on a dude's trip and we like had to meet in a different city, and even then we barely got through it. I have guys' nights just via work a lot, I would say, where I'm at a game and a few people, whether Clary or Damarin or somebody for Damarin, weird. That was weird. Dad. One of the guys from the station, you know, we get together, whatever, like that's the equivalent, but like just meeting up with my buddies to go have a steak or something very rare. We have a steak in the union that we do once every now and then at Randy's over and Tyson's meeting a few buddies, but certainly not twice a week. That's more of a quarterly appointment. Like I did with a bunch of neighborhood dads. My buddy Harrison invited everybody in like he's great at galvanizing getting the folks going. That was like the biggest to do for me in months. That was that I couldn't imagine another either that group or a different group, the same week. Like that's incredible to me. Like we went to a location. What an ask that would be. And we were all there. Hey, babe. So hey, you'll never guess what I like using your finger to like draw circles on the table. So you remember Tuesday night me and the guys got together and we were playing the cards and stuff. No, that was those two things. So I was wondering, what do you think about tomorrow night and the guys getting together to do something kind of like that again. Jesus, it's Frank's birthday and it's a big birthday for him. And you know, he's going through. I want to be there for him because he's going through that sad thing. Show me the study. Have a little sit down with the wife twice a week. You want me to be mentally at my best or not. It's up to you. If you want it, yes, then this is what I'm doing. Feels like a lot. I would have said if I had a guess, how many guys nights do you need to be mentally healthy to be in a good place? I would say, I probably need one a month. Yeah, once a month to just get out, kick it with the dudes and just eat something that I crave and not have anyone asking like my kids or whatever, like yelling at me, sitting on me, jumping on me, whatever cuts are rich and only being like just two, probably five nights a week, six nights a week. Well, rich and only leaves the league in this category, I think. So I feel like this study doesn't apply to our age group. It feels like a like a young 20s kind of thing. So that's gonna put me in there. No, I'm serious. Well, the age group of folks who are married with kids, like, I can't imagine that that study applies to that. That doesn't make sense. I think that's a whole point. Right. I'm Clary every night to guys night. Right. Yeah. Single. No, no, I'm, I have a girlfriend now, but I, but I don't mean that. I mean, you're not our kids. Yes. You're not married. By the way, show announcement, ladies and gentlemen. Oh, how about that? Right? Where is taken off the market? Glen Powell. Wow. I know. I know. That's radio official. It's past Instagram official radio official. Radio official. Radio official, but I mean, I have like two to three guys nights a week. It's, it's pretty nice. We got a colony grill every now and then we got a local bars as well. Surprise. You still go to Connie. I was gonna say you're dating any of these guys? No, no, no. No, no. We're not. How many people sit in the colony grill go? He's here. No, never once. Never once. Never once. Okay. That's good. Colony grill. This is a nice little hangout spot. I would have thought you left Connie Grir in the rear view of the road. You got, you got to weave through a few of the ghosts of dates past to get to your chair. There's a whole graveyard in that restaurant. Some bones piled up. What are you step on? That's a broken heart. A lot of hearts laying around in colony grill. Some pizza bones and some bones. Yeah. Yeah. What kind of topics do you have for this pizza? Any devastated ladies? I can think of a couple. But no, but you're young enough, Claire, where every night is guys night. Every night is guys night. That's right. I could got to do whatever I want. Like tonight, there's a night football. I'll probably have some friends over and watch a game. Amazing. That's why I'm saying dad, I think this is in reference to the married man, the father. Because like the point is we need that because we don't get that. That's the idea, right? But it is just unrealistic and ridiculous. It's also it. I almost said inappropriate, which isn't right. I would say irresponsible. I will say like we're doing a lot of shtick. I do think haven't, I talked to a buddy of mine who's got a couple of kids who's a little older, really smart guy all the time. And he what he has kind of figured out is that a lot of the stuff that in my mind makes me feel bad or guilty is necessary. So like I'll give you the example. For him, he knows if I don't leave and go to the gym, then I can't be the best me for my kids. Anyway, I'm not in the mood, whatever it is. So like if I leave my house and just go for a walk, not me, but him. And he's like, if I don't get that exercise or wherever comes from that, I'm not the best version of myself for them anyway. Whereas in my mind, I'm going, I work all the time. If I'm not around when they're around, then it's selfish in a sense. Like just to go sit somewhere and watch a game or whatever. That's a bad look. Like that's not, you know, my dad was present and around. So you kind of have that perspective, so to speak. Whereas I think now the new school thought is whatever you got to do to be your best self when you're present, maybe the best version. I don't know where you at on this, Mr. Huhe. I'm a believer in the idea that you've got to do like being around for the makeup numbers, around and present for 90%, but you're at 100%. It's better than being around 100% if you can only give 60%. I know there's a lot of percentages right there. But like, so tonight, for example, we've been trying to, I've been trying to play basketball all week, but it's been rang down outside the early on Tuesday for the indoor game. We didn't have enough. I couldn't play pickleball. So like, my wife totally gets that. Like I'm always at like, she went to the Oceans Calling Festival this past weekend with a couple of friends. Like, don't feel guilty at all. Like she was like, Oh my God, I can't believe I'm out there because you're in this fender bender. And then I'm like, it's, I want you to have some fun replenish the battery. Get away from these ridiculous hyenas that occupy your homestead, you know, like that's totally fine. I got it. But it's like we get that you need those kinds of things to replenish the battery. So I'm all in favor of this. There's a balance though. You can't be my one friend who plays golf six days a week. I don't know how he does that. That I don't understand. I don't know how he does it. Golf takes so many hours. It's all the hours. My buddy's always like, come play golf. Okay, what? I'll be there for an hour. What about the next 14 holes? I don't know how anyone has that schedule where unless you're retired, we just golf a bunch of days a week. I don't get it. Brad is in silver spring on GND. What's up, Brad? Yeah. One of the talk about the celebration thing because the NFL came out after the Drake London one and said like, look, we've always had a ban on violent celebrations. And I guess that that's what Jeremy McNichol fell into. But like that's not even true by their own standards because you've got the box shooting off cannons. You've got the past with their like revolutionary firing squad, even the chiefs with the Tomahawk thing. And those all operate way more under like the imprintor of the league than an individual player. So I don't see them like trying to curtail that at all. True. And it's just a matter of to me. I like the idea of saying, we don't want our players glorifying weapons, firearms, whatever. Okay, cool. Is that what's happening when Alan Lazard for .3 seconds on his butt after a big catch is pointing toward the goal line and going back and forth with his pointers. Like, can we have a little common sense on this? It's not black. Everything's not black and white. The rest of the game, you're deciding, should I throw the flag? Should I not throw the flag? Maybe use a little bit of that common sense right here and right now too. That's okay. And that's, that's kind of where I'm at. Like, I, even though I think it's a little bit ridiculous at some of the stuff that's loud and not, but whatever. It's fine. If you're, if you're going to throw the flag for it, let's make sure it's the thing that you're talking about, right? Where somebody's like, you know, tightening their scope and getting down American sniper style and, and miming that kind of a deal. Okay, let's throw the flag on that guy. Let's not do the and what's up, man. Let's not get, let's not flip to the flag there. Our first look at week five's NFL matchups with Thursday night football looming next on Grant and Danny.