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FM Talk 1065 Outdoors 10-5-2024
It's time to talk about the outdoors in South Alabama, hunting, fishing, and getting outside along the Great Gulf Coast. It's time to take it outside with FM Talk 1065 Outdoors with reports, stories, how-to information, and Dr. Bill's Marine forecast. Here's Sean Sullivan and Mike Ward. And away we go, FM Talk 1065 Outdoors and good to see my friend, my partner, Mike Ward. Great to be here. Let's take this. Let's take stories from this last week. Okay. Okay. Rip from the headlines, new cycle stories, and convert them into outdoor stories. I got one. See you do it. Let's do it. I got one. And I have to go back and check and what the latest counts are on the Marine traffic app, which is one that lets you track ships, you know, all over the world. Of course, I got- Where this was going. I got it zoomed in, you know, I've been zooming in here south of Farewell, Bowie, and watching the count come up on the ships that are not able to come in and offload at the port. Okay. So that story for everybody else, not like all of us, but everybody else. They just see it as a supply issue and the strike and this thing going on. I don't know. It's much bigger than that. But yes, for those of us like you and I and so many people listen to the show, we go, that really stinks. It's a bad thing. But, but, imagine the amount of lean fishing that can be done right now at the ships in King Merkel this time of year and think about this and think of this goes on. Now, don't want it to go on. I want these people. I want the strike to, you know, what sides come together. Right. But if it doesn't go on for a little bit longer, we start piling up a dozen, two dozen ships, or maybe more off, you know, south of the bay. I'm going fishing. And also you got lots of bait around the ship. So it's easy to catch bait around them. Especially when it's been there, just a little while, been there a week or so. Think about it. They're there a week or two. Yeah. I mean, so I guess there's a real story going on and it's, you know, concentrating on that. But yes, silver lining out of a gray cloud is kind of a, it might be a boon for some October fishing and October, you know, people do pretty good on laying in October as it is. Absolutely. And the Kings. This is when the Kings show up. So imagine to this mix, we add all this floating structure out there. Yeah. Well, it's good and bad, like you say. So listen, I mean, it's, if we can't do anything like you and I can't go affect this strike, we can't go work it out. No. Nobody's asked Mike and Sean to come down, sit down with both parties. All right, y'all. You know, so in the meantime, let's take advantage of catching, catching fish. Let's go catch fish. Let's don't go to Sam's and Walmart and fight over toilet paper. No, let's not let's just do this. Let's take the silver. The people are doing right now. They're fighting over toilet paper. Right. Where we will be fishing. Yes. Yes. And it is, while there's so much to do in the woods right now, it is just a great time of year to go to everything. Everything is good. I mean, yeah, we're going to talk a little fresh water, although in that fresh waters, plenty of brackish water mix, we're going to talk to Captain Wayne Miller coming up and just a little bit as things get better on the bass front. The trout, they're as close to making the break into the delt. I'm not saying they're probably some already in the delta, but they are darn close. Yep. Maybe a little cool weather and where the shrimp are. Well, you know, I had to work the other day. I did my show at the battleship, right? So once every three months or so, I do midday mobile, that show from the battleship. I do my show for an hour, and then Tom Clarkson, the Scullibut radio network, comes on. And at that point, I might break out and go look off the rails and check out what's going on in the outdoors. Only you show. And so when I see the bait shrimpers coming past the battleship and hanging the turn right there before they get to the bridge, they're getting as close as they can. That tells me everything I need to know about the shrimp migration. So, you know, it's popping out. The fishing in the rivers, the dead end rivers, has been good. You know, we're looking at dog and fowl. And I have not heard reports from fish, but I imagine it's probably good if those others are good. But I know the west sides have been good. Down around the bayou, the trout fishing has been good as they're moving in. So, trout fishing has been good. They had good reports of redfish. Some reports of bird skulls. People were finding those bird skulls the northern end of the bay. So, those, you know, those shrimp coming up, getting run up by trout. I have not heard anything from north of the bridges and causeway, you know, north of 10 or the causeway yet. It doesn't mean it's not happening, but I had that before. But it could be happening. Yes. But it's just south of the causeway. I guarantee you the kitchen. Well, it's happening right now. Several places down just south of the causeway that's really good this time of year. Right. And it's been going on. And to know that, you know, watching those, uh, the bait shrimpers going that far north that they're not up there. They're not going that far north because they want to burn that gas. Yes. They're going there because that's shrimp there. That's all I need to. So I left, I left my broadcast the other day with some information. I said, okay. Last couple of weeks I've been buying some shrimp from a friend of mine has been shrimping. Which, by the way, they were, I had some last week. They were fantastic. Yes, they are. And let me tell you, they are wearing the shrimp out right now. The shrimping is really, really good. They're filling the boat up in half a day. Really? Yes. Yeah. In the bay. So the bay fishing, bay shrimping is really good right now. Yeah. And those are pulling, you know, people are pulling like to sell to us. And then they're doing good. And then to see the bait shrimp, a lot of bait shrimpers. Yes. As far up as I'm seeing them, it's like, okay. Yep. The shrimp is there. So you know the fish are there. That's right. No if and buts about it. So we got that off shore. See, I'm painting a rosy picture. We got that going on. We have possibly, it depends on how long the strike goes on. An innumerable amount of ships anchored off, you know, farewell buoy. Yep. And so things are good. And snapper season's still in. It's going to be in for a while. So, yeah, get out and enjoy it. Yeah, I'm going to cochodry in a couple of weeks, about three weeks, I guess now the 20th or 21st or something like that. Going to cochodry, going to just go fishing. Not a term, just going fishing. Now that's going to be fun. Just go out and this snapper season is still up until you go seven days a week over there and you catch two per person. So, you know, you got to see two per person here. I mean, four per person. I'm sorry, four per person over there. So it's, you know, looking forward to that, but also that deep water structure. We're going to do some deep fishing, deep jigging, deep fishing. I'm looking forward to that. I'm looking forward to stopping by your house once you start flailing those fish and get them from that. It'll be interesting. You mentioned this and I think it'll be a good gauge as usually you talk about the Kings moving in this time of year. If we have all those ships, it'll be interesting to see if it's like it used to be. Yeah, right? Because you've been, you've been talking about it even to the point that Dr. Sean Powers has been on with us and they're looking at what's going on with the Kings. You were over in Louisiana and they weren't there like they're supposed to be. So I'll be interested. You go over this time of year, we're in a couple of weeks over Louisiana to see what you see Kingwise. Yeah, well, we're not going to do much King. I'm going to try. I'm going to try. You're like, you're like, but you're not going, I'm not going King microphone. That's for sure. Yeah, but you're like, you're not going to have a real rod on the boat. Okay, because I wasn't going to believe it. Don't come in here and tell tales. Yeah, Mike Ward is going to go by some of these rigs, you know, good and not just see. Yeah, we're going to throw something out for sure. Yeah, because I wouldn't, I wouldn't about to sit here and buy that. We're not going to go by foot. You're not going to be kingfishing. Yeah, we're going to try. But always, the commercial guys get fired up in October and start catching Kings October and November is when the commercial guys really get kicked off, which we'll see, we'll see if this, you know, if this turns around. Yeah, see if the Kings were just somewhere else this summer, you know, now they're back or we got an issue with Kings. In the last few years, it's been bad in the summertime and in the fall, October and November, the Kings show up and the commercial guys kill them. Okay, this time, earlier, I mean, the commercial guy's not even fishing for them. I mean, there's just not been that tough. Yeah, I mean, there's no reason to go. So, I hope where they start going. Hopefully, we got good reports by next week on that and get out and enjoy the ships. Also, just wrapping up a couple of things, you know, teal season, overdel, blueing, teal season, I got to go one day and I got the, we talked about it on the show last week, I got the kind of the formula I like. Right. Yeah. Low pressure that case in that case, a hurricane, which my gosh, the damage done by that, by Helene out in the Gulf. And then we had this cold front coming through. I didn't see it like I thought I would. So what did you do? It didn't, didn't do anything. And I heard very few shots out there. And I went where I went because we had a big west wind. I was trying to protect, you know, trying to run because I was running a small boat. But just didn't see what in years past, what has been a formula, even if you didn't have them in your decoys, you're looking up and seeing new birds coming in. I did not see that. And friends that hunted, they kept hunting, you know, throughout the weekend there, and they killed some, but not many. So I don't know, you know, probably the next two weeks, we'll have a gazillion teal come through the mobile tensile delta, but they weren't. Yeah, it was, I mean, people killed some birds, but it was not good. So through the whole season, they haven't done real well. Right. You know, and you're always trying to, and by the way, it's going to go back next year to only have, it's like right now we had three weekends, two weeks and three weekends. I think we're going back to a like a 10 day, like two weekends a week next year. Yeah. So it's going to drop back for blooming season. Something that they've talked about the summer beating. And usually they're a year delayed when they make changes to waterfowl harvest numbers. So we'll be looking at it in 2025. You know, it's a time and game. I mean, even the blooming numbers were down, but it's not significant enough that you didn't see a flight. Right. You know, and I hadn't seen whether this year- I just haven't showed up. It didn't, when I saw this year, didn't make me think they'd already come through. Yeah. Okay, so as of closing down season last weekend, I don't think the, there's always some. There's at any given point. I mean, it's not like they all migrate at one time. There's one, there's blooming on the Canadian Prairie and in the Yucatan in Mexico, you know, at the same time. But there's the, the major wedge of the birds, which I just didn't hear that we hit them. And so maybe they're, yeah, maybe they're here now. But that's kind of a review on that. People looking for it a big duck season. We'll see. Things look okay in the delta, grass-wise. So what about Louisiana? I want to, they've had a good season over there. You know, people, people, people, if you watch social media, here's the thing. People watch social media and get frustrated. Well, tell you what, the people that aren't killing birds are not putting pictures up. True. Right. So you get, you get, and I think that's everything in social media. We talk about what it does to people's idea of the world around them. Right. They get this idea that everybody is, whether it be fish, or ducks, or new cars, or girlfriends, or whatever it is. Everybody's catching them. Look, you know, everybody's just great and amazing. Everybody's catching a snapper and everybody's catching big grouper. And I can't catch nothing, you know, because the people who can catch nothing didn't put a post about it. So exactly right. But I did see some good reports and, and, and some videos, some guys having pretty good shoots in Louisiana. But you know you have different hunting too. You have the hunting down at Venice and that kind of hunting in the marsh. Then you got ricefield hunting over the west. They always seem to get them earlier. So social media can drive you crazy. All right. We'll go to the opposite end of the world from social media. You didn't even have it. Our friend, Captain Wayne Miller, talks in Delta Bass fishing and more when we come back on FM Talk 1-0-6-5 outdoors. Right up. Welcome back. FM Talk 1-0-6-5 outdoors Sean Sullivan and Mike Borde. Glad to have y'all along. Remember too, you can always check in with us on Facebook where you can post up pictures when you're catching facebook.com slash our family. FM Talk 1-0-6-5 outdoors. So facebook.com slash FM Talk 1-0-6-5 outdoors. Just put the outdoors on it because we've got two Facebook features. But yes, like I mentioned, just because, you know, Mike and I were talking about it, just because you see everybody else's catching over killing them. Well, you're seeing the people that were successful. Yeah. The people that weren't successful aren't posting up the pictures or or they're a Luddite. Like our friend, Captain Wayne Miller, who doesn't post anything up on social media and he catches them and he's catching them. So we don't even you don't even have you don't have any pictures except when we put up his pictures to be jealous of. But I guarantee you he's catching them. Hey Wayne, how you doing guys? We're good. So let's let's talk about this. It's October now. Now you and Mike always says it's the truth. You're catching them, you know, every month of the year. But is this if you had to pick at your favorite time of year, is it fall or is it spring? What's your favorite time to bassfish? Well, I'll tell you what guys for the delta, there's no doubt about it. It is the fall. And you know, I refer to it as the birds. Once you get into the months, the end, then a bird start in September, you got four of them buddy and it just gets better and better. That is that you know, and so it is yeah, it's the best time to be bass fishing. You're hearing it from the guy who's taking every day out there. Mike and I, in the first segment, we're talking about just the amount of shrimp that folks are getting just like shrimp for people in the bay. I was at a broadcast the other day at the battleship and I may have sneaked a little peek over the rail to see the bait shrimpers working as far up as they legally could. Picking a bait tells me a little something about what's underneath the water shrimp wise. At least I don't know where they are up in the delta, but they seem to be right up there at the causeway and I tend for sure. Oh yeah, I mean, we've got shrimp way up in the delta. So it's you know, you know, and that kind of, you know, it kind of started early this year. You know, we saw that migration start a little sooner than what we normally do and especially with the water temperature being as warm as it was. But, you know, right now, you know, I've been on the water this morning and, you know, I've been in some of the creeks down along the causeway and they're just absolutely loaded with shrimp. So, you know, and it's not necessarily the scenario where you have to go out and fish, you know, a shrimp imitation. But, you know, what happens this time of year is when no shrimp really get in here thick like that, it just initiates a phenomenal bite. I mean, and we typically do extremely well with the bass, but you know, this is that great time of year where if you go out and fish with bass tackle under the delta, the middle of the lower delta, there's no way you can escape catching a mixed bag. You're gonna catch red fish. You're gonna catch flounder, you know, specks. I mean, and, you know, that's a good problem to have, guys. You missed one, you got kabaya. Well, I try to, boy, damn, I leave that for you, boy. You fish a big stuff. Not me, not me. If I seek a value, we go the other way. And, you know, you mentioned other fish. I wouldn't have, but talk about that. Someone also, you know, get in the bass. You're formula going through the burr months here. But are you finding those fish, because I mean, it seems like the shrimp will be there. And I know this is not your, you know, your wheelhouse is bass, but the shrimp, we've had a couple of years where the shrimp are in the delta, and it doesn't seem to be, we'll have a week or two or three where the trout fishing's okay, but it doesn't seem the number of trout are up there with the shrimp like they have in the past. Do you know, I mean, I know you don't focus on that, but do you have an opinion on that? Yeah. I mean, we just hadn't seen, you know, that, you know, the stifled trout, like, you know, you do on some years. I mean, last year had this year, but, you know, what's really odd to me is just the absolute explosion of flounder. Yeah. I mean, I've caught, I've caught, I think three or four this morning, you know, just fishing into great plastic. A size two. Yesterday I had two that were 22 inches and, you know, some some 18, 19 inch ones. He got my attention. Yeah. And today I've caught probably a couple over 20, but I caught a couple of small ones today, which is kind of unusual. I hadn't been catching those small ones, but, you know, that's something that I know we've talked about on the show and I, and I've mentioned here, you know, this year, it's pretty amazing to me. Just the explosion of the flounder that we've seen on the Delta. And, you know, I, and I don't, you know, pretend to know anything about flounder. But one thing that's really promising to me is, you know, anytime you're seeing everything from small ones to the big, I mean, big 22, 23 plus inch flounder is indicative to me that, you know, I mean, the population is healthy. I think, you know, as you get older as a sportsman, fishing or hunting, you get more excited about seeing the young, the old, like, you know, in the turkey world, I mean, I love to hunt turkeys like Mike does, and I get excited about Galvars when I'm hunting. But the rest of the year, I get most excited about seeing Polts, you know, and young ones, right? You know, I mean, that's the thing that fires me up more, but those, the flounder thing is, if we were already recovering, or it was all because of the intervention here from the, from the state, or combination of both, good on you, because we have done a major turnaround here on flounder. Big time. And, you know, the guys that I know that go out and target them, you know, over the last, really the last six weeks on the Mobile River, they have absolutely just been whacking them, man. I mean, so, you know, I know, I know that the flounder station has really got, you know, just incredible here, you know, the last couple of years, and that's always good to know. Even if I'm not going out targeting them, I still, man, I still love to catch them, and I don't know anybody that love to eat them. No, they're, they're my favorite, no doubt about it. Mike, I mean, you had a good 500 trip this last week. Yeah, we did. We, we floundered down off and on with a couple of my buddies, Ken there better than David Lauver, and, you know, we kept, you know, about eight, I guess, and probably called about 15, you know, some of them smile, but when it was blowing out of the north, northeast about 15 knots, we couldn't fish where we wanted to, so, you know, but we had okay trip, you're on, you're on Dauphin Island doing that, and here's Wayne Miller, just, you don't have to give me your spot, but how far up the river if you've been catching flounder, and how far from the causeway? It just right there, or young, more than a dollar? Oh, no, I mean, I've taught them as far up. Well passed on a 12 mile island on the mobile side, I've called as far up as the trip. See, that's awesome to think about them. Mike, you're up there, Mike's there, and in between, we know they're 500, so good deal. It's good, good news that that's coming back, and, and, and, you know, of course, we're, by next month, we'll go into over tension, but right now, you know, we're seeing the, we're seeing the effects of that, and it's been a good thing. So, okay, and once again, you're not throwing, you're not throwing a bullman out, you're not throwing a shrimp. So, for people to think about, what you're throwing, I mean, you're fishing your normal bass tackle and catching these 500. I tell you what, guys, you know, and I've, you know, I wrote articles for the paper 20 plus years ago on this bait, and it still is phenomenal. Now, as it was 25 years ago, a watermelon chartreuse tail lizards on this delta is a absolute fish smacker, boys. I'm telling you, it catches everything, rare fish, love it, specks, flounder bass. I mean, that's what I'm fishing it for is bass, but, you know, I just fish it, you know, typically with a Texas ring, with a quarter ounce tungsten weight, either a one or two all, you know, EWG hook. What length, what do you throw in? What length? It's a six and six. Yeah, but, but, you know, something that I did want to mention, since we were doing the show today, you know, this past week, you know, and even though we're in October now, I mean, as we transitioned out of September, guys, we still had some really hot weather. I mean, we had a couple of days where we were in the 90s. I was having to tell myself, you know, it really isn't August Wayne, you know, you're hallucinating. But, but, you know, the key for this delta, and I would encourage, you know, anybody listening, anytime you listen to, you know, the, the fishing reports, you know, keep in mind, I know over this past week, you know, I finished both the middle delta, and I'm talking about as far up north as, basically, 65, you know, around, you know, on both the east and west side of the delta. And I've finished a lot down along the causeway, but this time of year, it's really a transition period for a bath. And, you know, even though, you know, you hear us talking about these shows, you hear us talk about, you know, seeing a tremendous number of shrimp in the creeks and whatever. And I have, I've had some really good trips where I've called them, you know, on, on DOAs and Buddhist shrimp. But, and there's obviously a lot of guys going out with live shrimp. But, but the key is, you know, you have to be versatile because, you know, a lot of times I'll lead and I'll have, you know, my mindset will be, okay, I'm going down, I'm going to hit these creeks on the causeway, and I'm going to whack them on that DOA this morning. Well, I get down there, and even though they're shrimp everywhere, they just want to hit the DOA, you know, and sometimes you have to transition to a, like a spinnerbait. Sometimes you can get them to hit a top water, but, you know, a buzzbait's a great, a great coup for our delta. I mean, these fish really love a buzzbait. I think one reason for that this time of year is because any time a bass gets after a shrimp, his only defense mechanism is to go to the top of the water and jump. So, you know, the buzzbait typically works well. But, you know, getting back to my point is you have to be versatile because I've gone down there, you know, this past week's been a really a perfect example for me. You know, just about every day I've gone with a game plan, and you're talking about somebody's own water virtually every day. So, it's not like I'm going blind, guys. But even at that, I still have to change my techniques almost daily, because if you don't, man, this delta, it'll spank you pretty hard. Yeah, just cause you caught them yesterday on a buzzbait don't mean tomorrow you're going to catch them on a buzzbait again. Yeah, like I tell you, man, if you go down there with that mindset, oh, man, you'll get, you'll get beat up pretty bad. So, you know, and that's why it's so important, and I know over the years we've talked about it on the show, you know, trying to give people, you know, direction and really give them good, solid, you know, advice to help them catch fish here on the delta. But, you know, it's so important to keep a variety of baits rigged and ready to go on a deck of your boat. I mean, you need that soft plastic. You need that, you know, just that Texas rig plastic. You need a spinner bait. You know, you need a top water. I mean, there's, because you can get in situations down there where sometimes you just pick up. It's a matter of, you know, making a change. And I know one day this past week, one morning, I went down and, you know, some of the drains on the creek, you know, I was catching them on soft plastic, on that lizard, because I couldn't get them to hit a top water. I couldn't get them to hit a DOA or anything. And then all of a sudden, I was easing up towards another cut, a little drain. And just so happened, I saw a shrimp come up on top right on the upper side of that drain. And, you know, I hadn't thrown a DOA in an hour. And I set that plastic down. I picked up that DOA rod first cast in there. I just twitched that DOA and then did stick it down. And, boom, caught one. I caught on five consecutive casts. I called five good solid bass. Man, I like you, you're talking about what you're throwing, but you mentioned like the drains in a creek. Explain that to somebody who, you know, who's probably new to this. Like, what does that mean? Well, anywhere you've got, you know, a little drain or, you know, another creek that's pouring into that one. And a lot of times what you'll have, it'll just be, you know, in these crepes, it'll just be a drain that you'll see the water going up, you know, in the grass. And, you know, especially on the outgoing tide, it'll create current that's pouring out. And a lot of times that water will be clear than the water in the main creek. But, you know, just like that day I just described, you know, what was funny is now I came to probably three or four other drains in that same creek and didn't catch another fish on a DOA. You figured out what was different? Well, you know, the only thing different that I could tell was there were actually, you know, shrimp present in that ditch mouth, that little drain where I called them. You just got to have it on the deck. You got to be willing to pick something up and try. You know, in a lot of times, you know, that'll be dictated by, you know, if you've got water and if the fish in grass or, you know, wood structure, you just got to be willing to try different baits. But, you know, the great thing is, you know, these are fairly basic techniques. I mean, you're talking about, you know, Texas red plastic. You're talking about a spinner bait, you know, a crank bait, you know, a buzz bait, you know, and these are all things that you can pick up. And, you know, I mean, it doesn't take a tremendous amount of experience to, you know, to be pretty proficient with these tight baits. It's not like you're trying to skip a, you know, a trick worm, you know, 40 feet up underneath the dock. Yeah. Finally, I need to ease your baits out there. Or we can just learn from the expert in person. Somebody wants to get a trip booked with you. I mean, this is a dang good time to do it. How are they getting in touch with you? They can reach me at 2-5-1-4-5-5-7-4-0-4. Captain Wayne, we appreciate it. And we'll check back with you soon and get back to catching them. All right, guys. Thank you, Wayne. There it goes. Captain Wayne Miller, and we're coming right back. All right. Welcome back. FM Talk, one of six five outdoors, Sean Sullivan and Mike Ward, who are both busy figuring out if he's catching them on that lizard, what we would do with bull minas in those things? Oh, man. Wouldn't that be good? You know, and I didn't get to go gigging this year, but we'll run out of time. I used to love to gig just out for the causeway. Yeah. Man, you've done it. Yeah, you've done it in that area in there. You know, you could go and you can find clear water because it grasps on the bike. Some years you get more grass on the bars than others, but the gigging used to be real good in there. And with the numbers coming back like they are, probably time to go. It would be time to go. But we've got all the other things to do as well. There's so many things to do. Like we talk about every year. This time of year, Sean, there's just so many things to do. I'm out getting ready for the up the country. I hadn't even been up there. I hadn't been to my camp to do anything. I haven't bushed. That's going to be fun. I hadn't cut some trees down. That's going to be fun. Down on my roads. I did go up and just rode around and looked to see, yeah, I got to cut that tree. That tree. I'm getting out of here. It's a hundred and thirty trees. I'm not doing it at a hundred and thirty degrees. You know, you get things ready for the hunting camp. Of course, I'm going to Kansas several times this year. I've been twice. I'm going three more times. You know, I hadn't hunted yet, but I'm getting ready to. Next week when I go up there, I'm going hunting. So looking forward to that, but then, you know, the fishing is good. Like I say, we just went flounder fishing. Another day, flounder fishing is off the chart. The bass fishing is great right now. Off shore is super good. They catch and fish like crazy offshore. I mean, it's just so many things to do. We just, it's hard to pick what you can do. And then the worst thing is, I'm going to work too. Yeah, there's that. There's that. There's that. You know, and we are like looking by this weekend here, we are just the 15th. So let's say the 10th. Yeah, so it's a week away. Week away from both season. Yes. Well, I mean, it starts on the 15th. So what is that? It's Tuesday. Yes. Yes, starts on Tuesday. Yeah. So we got that. Of course, what will keep me out of the deer woods for a little bit is if it doesn't cool down some. That's right. And that's what I've been up to, went to Kansas a couple of weeks ago. And it was a hundred degrees up there, 95 and 100. You know, I didn't care anything about it. I was working up there doing work, but I didn't care anything at all. Even though I'm in Kansas, I didn't care anything at all about going hunting. I, you know, I didn't say, Oh, man, I wish I had a chance to go hunting. No, not at all. I didn't care anything about it. Okay. Well, I got to get to you. Just going to get the weather. It's going to get colder up there before it does here. Yeah, but but you want it right. You want to weather cool no matter whether you hear or where you're at. It's no fun going deer hunting when it's 85, 90, 95, 100 degrees. It's to me, it's no fun. I agree. Yeah. You know, it, you know, we got some good ones on camera. I mean, I don't want to go sit in the woods and be sweating at 95 degrees. No, and maybe by the 15th, maybe things will turn around. We'll get that. Well, I hope so. I mean, at least it's in the 60s right now, you know, it's cool in the morning, so it's not bad in the morning. But in the afternoon, it's still so hot and my skid is a bad. I mean, it's just no fun. A reminder to we talked about a little bit like we've talked about a whole bunch of times on the show, but for people who just miss this and it's been years and years and years of this, if you're in zone B, you're in zone B, that's all of us here unless you hunt, you know, in another zone. But if you're down here in our part of the state, you're hunting in zone B. While both season starts on the 15th, you can't shoot does until the 25th of October, right? 10 days later. 10 days later. Box only. Yep. No does. Yep. And, you know, so that's the rules. And it makes sense, too, because you have a big chance of orphaning a fawn shooting does this time of year or shoot number. And honestly, we've talked about it in the past to be safe. You probably shouldn't shoot them until mid November. That's right. You know, to make sure you get fawns. You could say, well, my fawns are, yeah, I've got, listen, we've talked about it. I've run a good jillion cameras. By the way, I lost a, I told you the bears were eating a bear was one bear. It's funny how they have different personalities. They have bears that never mess with the thing. Yeah. And I had one that's taken to chew in the antennas on some of my cuttling cameras. And then I found one the other day that wasn't reporting. And he went ahead and had that one. He ate the mouth that it was on, knocked off and fell on a bridge, too, of all places that big wide gaps. I got so lucky. Didn't go into water. Didn't go into water, but took the bottom plate off of it. Yeah, he roughed it up pretty good. But the, it's just, but thinking about cameras is watching so many, I've got fawns that there's some of them I think about lost all spots. And I have fawns that are got so it's, you know, you could say, well, I saw a fawn on my place. It doesn't have any spots. It's probably ready to go. That may be that fun. Yeah. But unless you, you know, if you got the reality of, you know, you get a rut, then you get another rut, you got maybe a month between those, those fawns and maturity. That's all right. You know, another thing that people have got to remember to do is report if you shoot a doe, when doe season does come in the 25th, you've got to report them. Yep. So I mean, it's not just bugs. People have to remember they have to report the doe too. The smartest thing they did with the state to get compliance in that is when they, when people go to the deer processor, does whatever, and you have to have that number, that harvest number, they won't process it if you don't have that number. That was like, if you look at all the enforcement mechanisms and you could do all that, to me, that was brilliant. Yep. It was. Now there we go. Oh, yeah. I need to follow that deer. And say, well, tax numbers. Yeah. Tax numbers won't take it unless you got the, the number. Right. But I'm saying on the doe side. Yeah. Oh, I agree with you. I would follow those. But you know, then they hold the processor and processor shows where's your number? Yeah. Listen, we all forget. I mean, it's a good reminder. But hey, look, I've forgotten too, taking a deer up to the processor. And he says, where's your number? I said, Oh, yeah, I do have the rest. You know, and I'm with you every, all the, every week, we're talking about it all the time. But you just, you know, it's late at night or something. You finally get the deer out of woods, and you know, you're just excited or whatever it is. And you just don't think about it. I mean, I see how people can, can forget it. Yeah. Very easy. Because I've done it. Yeah. Of course, the nice reminder is you take the processor and then say, where's your number? And then you go, Oh, that's right. And get that thing. And I've reported a day after two. I have to. I've done that when I forgot to do it. You know, I've done a snapper fishing, you know, get home and say, Oh, man, I didn't report the snapper. And then I stop and report them. You know, I've done that. So I know if me and you do it and we talk about it all the time, everybody's doing it. So just try to, yeah, just remember that, just the rules out there. And you know, we have to forget it, just report it. Go ahead and report it. Yep. So yeah, even does, y'all, even does. So check that and all that information, of course, on your outdoor Alabama app, or you can go to the website outdoor Alabama and get more info on that. All right. Also, we'll come back here. One of the stories here that we talked about on the midday show. And I think we talked on the outdoor show as well. This, uh, do you need a license to take part in Jubilee? You know, so, and there's a state lawmaker. Guys have been on, uh, on my midday show, sometimes Matt Simpson, representing Matt Simpson, is, uh, going to pre-file a bill here that wouldn't require a fishing license for Jubilee's. Well, yeah, I'll talk about that when we come back. And welcome back. FM Talk 1065 outdoors, glad to have y'all along. And, uh, I don't know whether to go to stuff in the woods, go flounder giggin, go offshore fishing. And like we're talking about the beginning of the show, go ahead and catch it. Maybe it's silver lining to the, uh, strike at the port is who knows how many ships will be at Anchorage south of the, uh, lighthouse and farewell building. Yep. I remember a couple of years ago, Sean. It was like COVID, you know, like 20 ships out there. And I, and I lean fished during that. Yeah. And it was good. Yeah, it was. It was really good. So it's just, I don't know that it's good, but it's, uh, while the rest of the world's going to, you know, and I'm still upset with the, you know, situation and all that, but I'm going to make a little, I won't make a little lemonade out of these limits trying to get out there. Right. I mentioned this before we went to the break and it's a story that I've talked about on, on midday and I had represented Matt Simpson on before and he and I went around and round on this. There's a lot of people that agree with him. Okay. I'm not one of them. I mean, he's a bad guy. I just, I don't agree with him on it. The story is so laying that, put the story up. So they Daphne state lawmaker filed a bill to no longer require fishing license for those eager to pick up flounder and other marine life during the Mobile Bay Jubilee. After one of the first occurrences of the rare event this summer ended with an arrest. We talked about that story. Right. Okay. So this is this, and this is what he had brought before that. This is kind of time of year. They pre file bills for the upcoming session in Montgomery, right? That'll be in, I think, February start this year. Said Representative Matt Simpson said Wednesday it does not make sense for the government to charge someone who wants to be part of a natural phenomenon that happens in only one other place on the planet. His quote, Daphne is a Jubilee city. If I've got people coming in from out of town, if I've got people who want to just go down and experience a Jubilee, why do they have to have a fishing license just to experience a Jubilee? If you're not, you're not baiting a rod, you're literally standing in ankle deep water. And if you want to pick up a flounder and you pick up a flounder, and quote, I would, I would just point back to this, you're still harvesting the flounder. Yes. You're in possession. It's, it's not about home fishing licenses because in reality, most places you got to have a rod and reel to catch fish, right? I mean, this most places in the world, but the fishing license is not about the act of casting. You know, it's about harvesting the fish, right? Or attempting to even catch them. However, you harvest them, where you harvest by hand, harvest by a gig, harvest by a real rod, or you snatch hooking them with a, with a shovel hook, you're fishing. Now, whether you're off a pier, off of a bridge, off the side of the road, it doesn't matter. You're, you've got to have a fishing license. I think this is, I think this is part of the problem too, that it's seen, and I get it there, and like I said, that's, that seems a good guy. And there's plenty of people who agree with them, good folks, but they see it from the perspective of, well, I'm not fishing. I see it as a conservationist who likes to have great founder populations and all that, that we have to have a mechanism here to, to give back when you're taking critters. And you'd say, okay, we'll catch and release. Well, you're, you're not catching, if you catch and release, you still have to have a fishing license. That's right. Okay. Yeah. And if you, and if you grab fish and retain them and release, you still, you're still using the resource. So does he not want to have a limit either? Well, and that's, the argument has been made that limit is, that limit is okay. Okay. Because he and I talked about this a month or two ago on the show, and the limit thing was okay. It was just the license thing. It says here further in the story, this is our buddy Scott Bannon talking, the department of conservation natural resources has done really well, restocking the population and making sure the flounder populations still exist. This just says, dang it, there's only two places in the world where you can have a jubilee. Why does the government have to tell you yet to have a vision license? And quote, well, in addition to Simpson, now Daphne's mayor, Robin Lejeune, said he appreciated Simpson for taking the lead on the issue, calling the bill, quote, a great thing and quote for Eastern Shore residents and describing jubilee's as an important part of the city's history. Those things are true, but not related, it is an important part of the city's history. It is a jubilee city. But because that doesn't mean you should be able to not have a license to take the fish that you would have to if you were throwing a bullmitto out on a hook. Yeah, I agree with you, John. I don't know, I don't know, I don't understand that, be honest with you. You know, to get a couple of day license or seven day license or something, for an Alabama resident, that's just, we talking about what $5, $8, $6, whatever it is, it can't be much. No, and you can get them, you know, you can go online now with your phone, if the jubilee is happening, you can get them right now. Even they get in the quote in the story here, Sherry Sullivan, mayor of Fair Hope says she agrees with it. I think the politicos agree with it because the people that want this are calling their representatives is how our system works, and they're hearing from them. So if somebody is not a really into the outdoors or fishing, they just hear their people want it, it's probably a good promotional thing or whatever. But it does, to me, I mean, when we start saying, well, you don't have to have a license because you're not catching them on a hook, it doesn't, then you have to have one a gig. Yeah. And they're not catching them by hand. They're not catching flounder by hand. I don't think they're not even getting a net and a net. Yeah, maybe I guess. Yeah. But yeah, so that's, you know, it's a thing going on. And it's, I think there are fair-minded people on both sides. I am just, and I know, listen, I get a lot of blowback on this. People have this idea that we should be able to take whatever. There's some people just agree with this thing. So I'm not going to lump everybody in together. I don't like when people do that. There are people who just agree with this specific part of it. There's also a wider group of people that say, I should be able to take whatever I want whenever I want, you know, and you've heard those people like, God, put the critters here for me to take and I should be able to do whatever I want. Well, you know what that led to in our country? You only go back and see what it led to, what is market hunting and all that. We almost collapse this great gift we have. And so, I mean, there's like a pragmatic argument about jubilese versus fishing, but then there are a group, and I'm not saying these people are in that group, but there's a group of people who think, I shouldn't have to have a license for anything. Yeah. Well, I mean, for years and years and years, forever, I didn't have a saltwater license. Right. No, they didn't have saltwater. South of the causeway, you didn't have to have a license, you know, then they'd go up to effect. And now it's another tax, another license, you got to have a license, you got to have a license for everything now. But then again, I would argue at the same time, they weren't doing much to make fishing better in saltwater. Right. They are, the license came in, and they started, they started putting that money back in. That's right. So it's, you got to have it for enforcement, you know? Right. You know, I don't have it for you that people take every, it's, once again, you look back at the history, I get where your heart is sometimes on this, you know, God put the critters there, we should be able to get them. At the same time, look what happened in the past, read up on the history. Got to have limits. I'm sure we'll get some interaction on this. You can leave your comments over the Facebook page or send me an email, Sean, and if I'm talking go to 65.com, that's S-E-A-N. All right. We'll do it again next week. Y'all have a great one. [Music]