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Yeah buddy, it's our number four, the G-back nation on 105.3. The fan coming up at 520 ESPN's quarterback confidential. This is juicy 103 players ranking the league anonymously. And there's some really interesting talking points in there. Speaking of interesting football talking points, it's time for an edition of the finest. And here's Eric. All right. Well, Frank Gore Jr. He was the highest graded rookie back. According to pro football focus for the preseason last we saw back, right? Rookie back. Yeah. The highest graded back was a band of Candida Israel, a band of Candida. And he made the jets right now. Okay. Yeah, it looks like he's going to be at least their kick returner. And then maybe he's their backup to Breeze Hall. Yeah, he plays on all the special heat. Well, he was a punt return punt team. He was on the kickoff kickoff return. So yeah, he, he plays all the spots. I watched him this morning thinking he might get way, but no use now. Did you watch Frank Gore? No, I could do it right now. Let's watch Frank Gore Jr. Because he tore it up. I mean, over the weekend in the preseason finale at 18 carries for over 100 yards in a touchdown. That's fresh legs. We know about the DNA. And if the bills are going to throw him out there, which they have didn't make the initial roster there for Buffalo. I'm sure they're trying to get him back on the practice squad, but for getting some young fresh legs in here might not be the worst thing in the world. I know it's like, Hey, we got Zeke. We're kicking the tires on, on Dalvin Cook, but I think youthful energy, fresh legs, more tread is what you want on the tires of your running back. So, and let's not forget his dad on draft. They said, quote, folks slept on my son. They slept on me too. They'll see my bloodline is for real. Well, I might make an exception for Frank Gore. I don't know. I'm like, how often is it that a team keeping three backs? Let's a guy go that's got some juice, you know, it's a fair question. Totally fair question. Brian. I'm looking at you for the answer. I'm trying to watch Frank Gore from over here. What are you doing? Okay. That's my bad. I'm just kidding. What was your question? I was, I was looking at the show, Brian. Thank you, man. So how, what do we need to know? I was just asking, it's Frank or even that good. If he's not, if he didn't make the bills roster, like if he couldn't make their roster team, guys make mistakes all the time, teams make mistakes, make mistakes all the time. I mean, I'm going to sit and act like I know who all Buffalo has at the running back room, but teams make mistakes on these guys. And so yeah, you maybe you get a little cute. Cowboys did it with Matt Moore, didn't get Matt Moore back and went out and had like a 12, 13 year career throwing the ball around. Yeah, you make mistake John Ridgeway. You know, that was a mistake. Cowboys shouldn't have waved John Ridgeway. Well, they do. They didn't get him back. You know, so yeah, teams make mistakes. I, I think what you do is you do, you do diligence and you look at the, you look at the pro tape. He's a rookie. You probably have an idea of what you thought about him in the college, you know, the college grading scale last year. And you're saying, okay, well, maybe the tape in the NFL is better than what the college tape was called Southern Miss, right? Yeah. He's had a lot of games where he had a ton of carries, but big, big yards for, for a back. And Southern Miss wasn't a great team. But yeah, I, I think that there's, to, to sit there and say that, Oh, wow, something's probably wrong with the kid. I think maybe it's more about Buffalo. And maybe they have, maybe they have other backs that they would rather have, you know, on the roster. All right. Well, you're going to check them out and let us know, Frank, gorgeous, Dawson asked another damn question. I mean, my gosh, I'm over here trying to do eight things. I appreciate it, man. I think you're doing a podcast at the same time too. Sam, I was trying to do a podcast. I'm sorry. I, I literally was like, you know, sometimes somebody will ask you a question. You don't hear anything they say. Yeah. It's not even anything that they asked you about. I've been there, dude. It's all right. You're putting that work in. I appreciate your, your film work right there. Go crunch that film. You come back to us. Let us know about Frank Court Jr. Just keep talking. Maybe I will. Can you succeed with a four, five, eight, 40 in the NFL today? I don't think him at Smith was the fastest guy in the world. I mean, I'm just saying it. Yeah. It, it, it was one of the reasons. Remember a guy named Curtis Enis, he was drafted by the Bears in the first round. Yeah. I remember telling Jeff Lori, this the owner of the Eagles, he's like, Brian, we don't have Curtis Enis up there very high. And I'm like, Mr. Lori, he's a 240 pound back. And all he does is going to get slower. You know, the bigger they are, the slower, they're just going to keep getting slower and slower and slower. And he's like, you know, I don't know. I'm like, well, I go, please just trust me on this one. Nice job. And he, and he did. And so, yeah. And then he went to the Bears in the first round, and he looked at me like, okay, dumbass. Yeah. You know, but man, there are a lot of running backs busted in that era. Oh, yeah. That Kajana Carter's, but he had, but he got his knee banged up and stuff like that. But there, there were a lot of backs to write in that era that just didn't work out very well. Okay, I have 10 things that Ted Nguyen of the athletic learned from the NFL preseason. He's one of the better football brains out there. He's got some interesting talking points. Ted, when? No, what about me? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, broad as as well. Okay, but I'm boxing you out right now. So you can watch Frank Gower. Okay, I appreciate it. I just, that part I did here, you know, that you thought Ted was a better guy than me. Oh, no, I don't think he's better. I'm going to do my job. I think he's much better. All right. Warren Sharp, Warren Sharp had a quote from Warren Sharp's better than me too. Yeah. From a defensive coach. And I want to start here because Ted Nguyen has some different thoughts on the status of the Eagles and Colin Moore right now. But I did want to bring a defensive coach in the NFL is quoted as saying this about hurts and the Eagles offense right now. The word is out there. If you run zero blitz against hurts or show zero and back everyone out, he will panic. That has to change. They lose Jason Kelsey at center. He handled all the protections, basically did everything for them. And you bring in a coordinator in Kellen Moore who likes to drop back. So it will be interesting to say the least. Now tell me something I don't know. Yeah, no, this is, I just want to set the table with that. Talk about that. You're not even supposed to be listening. We talked about that before. Just wanted to set the table. By the way, I just I pulled up. There's 69 plays that we can evaluate on this guy. 69. Just thought I'll let you know that sign. Thank you. Yeah. They're playing the bear down bears here in 13 to six here in the, in the first quarter. Thank you. Thank you clarification. Huge, huge contribution there to the show. I'm doing my best here. I'm trying, I'm really tired of carrying you to clowns to be honest with you. So Ted Nguyen is now looking at this Eagles offense in the preseason and his number one preseason takeaway and all of the NFL right now is that the Eagles offense is no longer stale. Now we have to somewhat allow for the idea that Kellen Moore, who is still young and sort of in the infancy of his, of his football coaching career, maybe he can develop and evolve and add and get better. Okay, because the Kellen Moore that we know here is not a Kellen Moore that's really helping you as it pertains to beating defenses, especially good defenses consistently. So, but Ted Nguyen is saying, Hey, Eagles offense no longer stale based on what he's seen in the preseason. He says they need someone to inject new life into the playbook. And he says, Kellen Moore may have actually just completely rewritten it. He says the Eagles were dead last and most emotion, emotion usage in last season. He says he doesn't have preseason motion stats, but it appears they used motion on most of their snaps. And we're using it creatively. More used motion to create angles on run blocks and to get into certain past concepts from unusual looks. So he's a little bit more bullish here now after seeing a few weeks of Eagle preseason football that maybe Kellen Moore is actually going to be a bit of an asset to Jalen Hertz and Nick Siriani in a way that most of us probably weren't anticipating. I think that's one of the biggest questions about this Eagles team coming in. But if they nailed it with Kellen Moore, if Kellen Moore has sort of risen to the occasion and evolved his offensive philosophies here and added some more modern things to it, maybe just maybe the Eagles offense can actually be better and not continue to suck like it did majority of last season. And that would be a huge that would be a double whammy for Kellen Moore to finally get it figured out with the Eagles and have it, you know, put Jalen Hertz career back on an upward trajectory. I'm not a big believer in Hertz. I think it is possible to optimize the offense if he's willing to run a lot. But, you know, the injuries that he's been through in his career, I think he's on the other side of that curve. Any motion they run will be a first from Brian Johnson running motion. Yeah, they were dead last. That's a first year coordinator that was over his head, you know, yeah, you know, yeah, you could kill him or is it legitimate offensive coordinator, but anything's better than what Brian Johnson was doing last year for that. Absolutely. You know, I think though, he worked with the with Brandon Staley with the Chargers, obviously from the McVeigh tree. And there's a lot of moments in time where Kellen Moore, who is a student of the game, could have that light bulb moment that, Hey, this is what I really need to be doing here from this point forward, especially if you look at who's having the best results with offensive coaching. It is off that, that coaching tree. So if this does happen, I would be interested in bringing Kellen Moore back. You know, if you fire your head coach and Kellen Moore is showing that he learned the McVeigh philosophy as far as motion during and after the snap is what's getting us an advantage. Then, you know, I would, I would hope the Cowboys would be open minded to that. He also has in his 10 things he learned from this preseason in the athletic Ted when he says the Chiefs look like they actually got better, which is totally fair, because they were actually not even very good last year. They were in spite of so many issues. They had offensively bottom third in a lot of categories offensively last year. There's no way that happens again. Andy Reed, Pat Mahomes and a new found type of deep threat in a guy like Xavier Worthy. They they sub out left tackle Donovan Smith for a second round Kingsley, Suam Mata. Yeah. And he is actually been pretty good to this point. All of that. Like, yeah, I do think with the amount of struggles that the Chiefs had last year, I don't expect that at all with their offense this time around. And they've they've added just enough pieces and everything like that to where they're probably going to be. I mean, wall check has him going undefeated, I think, in his football poll predictions this year. I mean, worthy Brown, Sky Moore, Juju Smith, you can kind of see weapons in there now. They had the second best defense in the NFL last year. I think that's overlooked. And you know, what does the loss of Nigeria seen? And I think some of their linebacker depth due to them. Now you have at number four, Cowboys continue to draft well, Ted, when acknowledging what we can all acknowledge now last year's draft class, not ideal this year's draft class early returns look like a home run. And he says with Tyler Geiten, only allowed one pressure on 56 snaps in the preseason looked like a star against the Raiders starters in week two, still has some technical issues to clean up. His hands are not great. Right. We know Broadus has pointed that out. But athletically, he's a freak show, finishes with purpose when run blocking. And he says, it's hard to fake looking good at the line of scrimmage. Geiten appears to be a future star. That that's something I think is the most surprising. His hands are bad. His run blocking is good. Those are things you probably didn't expect. But with this guy, but his, I mean, he's his run blocking is impressive. And he didn't do a whole lot of that. I believe at Oklahoma, but we're going to have us a running game in 2025, for sure. Soon as you get a runner in here, those guys with some experiences, it's going to be awesome. Yeah, the trio from center to left tackle of Cooper Beavy and Tyler Smith and then Tyler Geiten, those three guys got some power on the road graders. Yeah, I mean, my goodness, dude, that is pretty incredible. We'll see what happens with Zach Martin and Terence Steele. But from center to left tackle, you feel like for the next half decade, you're just going to be rocking it. You might be a good left handed team. You know, yeah, that's right. Most teams are right handed when they, you know, the way they play because of their quarterback. But with Dax ability to throw left and right, it might be a, it might be a decent left handed team. Well, another preseason observation here is that the Steelers offense is nowhere near as improved as they would have hoped. They have Russell Wilson and Justin Fields. Are they better than Kenny Pickett? I guess only by slight margins. But otherwise, their offense has still looked really, really bad. I mean, we did it last week. All of the just punt, punt, punt, punt, turn over on downs, field goal. Like that's how their possessions have gone with Russell Wilson and Justin Fields in this preseason. So that's going to be a disaster. Yeah. And fortunately, the Cowboys get to play in this year. And this is the end, I think the final five weeks of Russell Wilson being considered a starting level quarterback, he just falling completely off the cliff from MVP candidate to objectively bad at the position. Yeah, I think this is the last season of Russell Wilson's career. I don't think he's going to want to be a backup quarterback. And he's obviously made plenty of money. No team will give him even a chance to be a starting quarterback after the season. So I think this is it for him. His other observation here is that man Spencer Rattler playing pretty well at quarterback there for the Saints. And he's thinking that the calls for Rattler will be loud when Derek Carr just is Derek Carr and throws interceptions and stuff like that and loses football games. Saints fans are going to be calling for Spencer Rattler who is a guy that is super talented. He was drafted in the fifth round, had plenty of maturity issues throughout his college tenure seems to have kind of gotten a grip on those a little bit. But he says efficient throwing motion, beautiful deep ball and can manipulate the pocket as good as anybody at a youthful age like him. So Spencer Rattler and he was a guy that I know coming out this past year. Some people were like, Hey, that's the kind of late round quarterback that might have some upside here. If you want to take a flyer on a guy and maybe Spencer Rattler wound up starting some games there in New Orleans this year. Yeah, he's he's had moments where he's looked really, really good in college. I think you watch him play against Tennessee. You you would say he's probably a first round player. And in other days, he throws interceptions at an alarming bad rate. You know, like you watch him against Georgia and some of the teams with better defenses gave him a little bit of problems. Super talented guy though. Yeah, I just I kind of gave up on him. You know, just out of I think a lot of opportunities in college and never making much of it. Yeah. The other observation here NFL preseason Malik neighbors giants LSU wide receiver top pick rookie. Absolutely looks like an instant impact dominator. And unfortunately, he's got Daniel Jones throwing him the football. But you know, everybody was heavy on Marvin Harrison Jr. The closer you got to draft day you had his like, well, Malik neighbors actually is probably the best wide receiver in this class. And he's done nothing to disprove that to this point, making some sure fire tough grabs from a crappy quarterback. That's going to be an interesting one to monitor throughout the year when he's going to be frustrated. Yeah, he's going to be super frustrated. Oh, yeah. And but the, you know, and the Giants are starting to put together a collection of really good players that if they do get a quarterback in the next couple, two, three years, I could see your resurgence. Everybody's super high on the Texans right now have them being super bowl contenders. According to Ted when we know that Diana Rucini said that was the most impressive training camp practice she witnessed was a Texans one. They have the quarterback and the coach. Unless there's some ridiculous, sophomore slump there, all they've done is just add to the roster from a talent standpoint, capitalizing on their young, cheap quarterback and C.J. Stroud. The only concern I have about the Texans this year is that they have one of the most difficult schedules in the sport. And so that's going to be tough. And then obviously just being a franchise that's not used to any expectations. And now you have a ton of them. But I do still think that they are good enough from coach to quarterback to roster. And they're in a bad enough division to where that is still going to be a legitimate team here. Anthony Richardson is a takeaway quarterback for the Colts. He's got to improve his footwork. He was called out by Bengals players, defensive players in their joint practice like, dude, is all this guy do is run. You won't throw the football. So still some growing pains there with him. And then the other one is with the Raiders and their use of 12 personnel will be historical. They drafted Michael Mayer. Yeah. And the second round last year out of Notre Dame, they just draft Brock Bowers. Unfortunately, that's another team that doesn't have a quarterback. But a lot of people are connecting deck to that situation for next year. Some great weapons to have. Yeah. And if you can line up in 12 and be a punishing run team and then throw out of that, that's one of the biggest hacks you can do still in the NFL. 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Head to toyota.com for more info or visit your local Toyota dealership today. Toyota, let's go places. Nation, welcome back G back nation. Hope you're having a good one. We're going to be at shell shack in Dallas just right over here on Thursday after the Rangers game and Friday we're going to be at the ballpark. So please do come say hi. We're about 16 minutes now from LA live with Lucius Alexander. I have a quarterback confidential coming to you here in just a second. 103 players ranked the league anonymously. I love that. But Brian's been watching some Frank Gore Jr. released by the Buffalo Bills today. He was a camp cut down. Brian, what do you think about this guy? Good adjustments in the flat. So far I've watched my system can break it down. We're in watch all this carries. So I've seen so far the Bears game. And then now I'm into the Pittsburgh game. Good adjustments in the flat. I think he catches the ball easily. Looks like comfortable doing that. He's got really good quickness. He's kind of a short choppy step guy. He'll bounce off tacklers. I like the way he attacks the whole way. He's got that low center gravity that kind of keeps his balance right. Low man wins. Yeah, he runs with some good toughness. I think he's got some finishing ability to him. He can make the first guy miss. Sometimes these Buffalo backup offensive lineman will miss a guy and then he's able to kind of jump to a side little cut and then get through the hole. I like the vision to make the cuts. I like the patience to allow the blocks to develop with him. They'll run this counter scheme where they'll pull the backside tackle and guard. He kind of just sits right behind those guys. And then he explodes into the hole there. I like the way he attacks the hole. But yeah, we still got some plays to watch. But that's what we've seen so far. He looks like a guy that you might need to think about, you know, if putting a claim in for. I would have the guys you've got on this current, current group. Well, you know, and we have to wonder, you know, with just being the best football player put you on this football team at this particular position. Everybody likes their guys. That's the problem. Nobody has the guts to claim anybody anymore. Yeah, that's the problem. Because you know how they feel about Zeke, you know, they, you know, they, you know, and you know what, and you know, is the best one in the reality was the best one in the room. And then you know how they feel about Deuce with the family ties in the juice earned his way onto this team, though, the way for sure. No question about that. But like, do you watch this Frank Gore guy and just putting everything aside? You'd rather have him over deuce. He looks like he's got Frank Gore's got some got some stuff to his game. He really does. And that's tough. You know, when a guy that basically ran a four six who's who's, you know, a rookie was undrafted is, you know, better than at least two, maybe all of the guys in your room. That's yeah, I, you know what, to me, there's a there's really with Frank Gore, there looks like there's just some quickness to him. I mean, they're, they're handing him the ball and they're not blocking this thing clean. And he's able to kind of slide and then boom, get up the field a little bit. I, I tell you what, I don't know what Buffalo, I'd like to know who else Buffalo has on their running back room. Oh, look. Yeah, if you could, because maybe I need to watch those guys, too. But this guy, you know, they probably Dallas probably didn't have something very good about him coming out and, and they, and I'm sure I'll hear about it here in a little bit. But he looks like a guy that someone should put a claim in for. Well, maybe he's got some, some juice to his name being, you know, the son of one of the greatest running backs to ever do it. He's got some of his dad's toughness. You could tell that by the way, he's running this football. They got, of course, James Cook, they got Ray Davis. They've got Ray Davis. Okay, Ty Johnson. And then they've got Darrington Evans. That looks to be their room. Well, full, full room there. Not, not a lot of household names, but some good athletes in there. I love what ESPN's doing here. This is NFL nation from ESPN, 103 players answer six burning questions about quarterbacks. These are anonymous NFL players. And I love the way they kind of walk into this with the premise. The chiefs can make history this season with the NFL's first three Pete, an achievement that would thrust quarterback Patrick Mahomes into the conversation of the greatest of all time. Up into this moment, you could say, well, you know, I think Patrick Mahomes is better than Tom Brady with the eyeball test, or I think he's going to accomplish more than Tom Brady. But up until now you haven't had any objective stats or history that could make you like genuinely consider it. I'm already considering, you know, if you had an all-time player draft, would Mahomes go ahead of Tom? Because, you know, I think he kind of won it with rebuilding offenses and back-to-back years, just incredible what Mahomes has already accomplished. But to do something statistically historically that Tom Brady hasn't obviously would change the conversation. Both played with a tremendous Hall of Fame coaches, both played in a salary cap era. So you have to give them high marks for that. Any quarterback that thrives in the salary cap era. Yeah. Because like your team is constantly turning over. Yeah. So, you know, the guy's like nothing against Starbuck or Brad Shaw or Joe Montana, had the same teams for like 10 years. Those teams never turned over. Mahomes chasing his fourth title already. This guy's tough. He is Brady won seven but did not win his fourth until his 15th season. Mahomes is entering his eighth. I think Brady going to a different team and winning it with Tampa and Bruce Arians is just unbelievable. Yeah. And one AFC South player says it's Brady, but if Mahomes three Pete's, that's a different story. The survey granted anonymity so the players could respond candidly ask them to rank quarterbacks in a lot of different categories. But we'll start with who is the goat? And if it's not Mahomes, what does he have to do to get there? An NFC South player said, no disrespect to Tom, but I'm taking Pat. Pat can do everything Tom can do and he's mobile. I don't know. I don't know if if Pat can do everything that that Tom could do, but I what? Like, like, like, what would you say? I wonder if when it comes to maybe reading defenses, Tom was gifted in that department. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I wonder if if you said what's the difference between the two defensive manipulation, the way the way the thinking man's game. Hey, listen, by your year 20 Brady compared to now Mahomes, there's no question I will grant you that. No, I'm just saying I'm not trying to make. I'm not trying to make light of this. I'm just saying that I think Mahomes is very well respected for his football IQ and the way he sees and all of that stuff. Brady Brady has Brady takes that to another level because Brady's not as talented as Mahomes. He's not right, but where he where he beats you is the way he thinks way through these games. That's what he does. So Mahomes, Mahomes plays on feel a lot of times, I think. Yeah, but I think he's also. I don't think Brady could play on feel. I think Mahomes can. Well, I think that Mahomes has shown like he can play whatever. If you want to play wide open and Brady showed this as well. 2007, you want to give me Randy Moss. I'll throw the ball all over the place and we'll score a bunch of points and I'll be incredibly efficient and it'll be big plays. It'll be amazing. You want to give me tight ends to work with. You want to give me very average receivers to work with and we dink and we dunk and it's efficient and I'm just boom, boom, boom, getting the ball out real quick. I can do that as well. Mahomes just showed he can do the same thing. If you're going to put me in an offense where it's like, Hey, we just got to score 20 points. We got a good defense. We're going to play small ball. Fine. If you want to air it out and do MVP caliber stuff, I can do that and it won't just be empty numbers. It'll be, I can still show up and be clutch and big games and indoor outdoor. I think it's, I think he's that guy. But at the same time, you'll have people that'll say like in the 817, how can Mahomes be better and Brady have Brady beat him head to head twice and Brady will always have that on Mahomes. Yeah. Yeah. In, you know, in Arrowhead, that was the, that was Mahomes's first year playing quarterback in the NFL. It was the second year in the league, but it was his first year playing AFC championship game. And that was a down-to-the-wire crazy situation, but Brady bested him. And then the Bucks dominated the Chiefs in that Super Bowl. Yeah. Yeah. And there's a couple of things that you also have to look at. Tom Brady was so good in short yardage sneak situations. Yeah. Like he didn't get enough credit for his power and his prowess at the quarterback sneak. How bad was our offensive line in that Super Bowl? Was that the one I remember that I'm sure they went out and got three dudes and drafted Creed Humphrey and all that? I would argue it would. It has to be a top two or three worst offensive line to ever play in a Super Bowl. There were a lot of players with respect for Tom Brady's career in this vote. And played a lot of long, a lot of games. Yeah. That longevity is just tough. 92 people ended up voting on this particular question. Who's the goat? Mahomes are Brady. And how many do you think pick Tom? I would say 75%. I'm going to say a lot less than that. I'm going to say less than 50. It was actually significantly more 85 than 92 votes. So somewhere around 90%. I thought the modern player wouldn't give Tom Brady credit. Well, Tom Brady is still modern. I mean, he's just, he just hung him up. Like all these young guys who are in the league right now, they all saw at least the last half of Brady's career, which was a Hall of Fame 10 years in and of itself, the game, the game that Mahomes had that playoff run last year. I don't know if you'll ever see one like that again. It's just about the respect for how long Brady was able to do it in all those accomplishments. But I think it is, it's definitely a conversation now. I mean, the way that Mahomes won the Super Bowl two years ago, you know, with his legs and making those big plays, he should be sacked. I just think you cannot fade that. And you know, I don't think you can, you know, favor Brady. If you think that things are equal inside the pocket, you know, giving Mahomes the ability to do that is, you know, something else. I don't know if Mahomes is going to have the super longevity career that Brady has that I don't know how you score that. But, you know, if you get similar amounts of Super Bowls in significantly less years, you know, like Super Bowl per season, I think will probably end up being a very important metric in this discussion. Andy won't last that long. Yeah, there's Andy. Andy won't last that long. And that's, that's going to be the detriment to probably five years with Andy. I think so. Yeah, I think so. Rank the top three current quarterbacks, 103 NFL players voted on this one. Patrick Mahomes got the most number two, a surprise for me. Lamar. Yes, Lamar Jackson. You know how the players love and fear speed, right? They do. It's hard to prepare for that guy. And you're going to find that out in week three. Lamar is the guy with the most ability to embarrass you. Number three was burrow. Other top vote getters Josh Allen ended up with 39 points. And Aaron Rodgers got the fifth best composite score here. As Mike Sando told us last hour, he was the most difficult quarterback to grade. Yeah, to grade. Some people still think he's like a tier one guy. And then some people think he's as down as tier four. Okay, which of the rookie quarterbacks will have the most successful career? And then after we get through these three, we'll have most overrated and underrated and some interesting deck take. They're going to say Caleb Williams, I believe. Yeah, it came down to Williams, Daniels and McCarthy with McCarthy's out. Williams with 34 vote points. Daniels coming in second with 30th. I just can't see, you know, how I would really favor either of those two considering the organization they're in. I can't, I can't go Caleb Williams. I think any success in my lifetime that Chicago has experienced has been very short lived. Even in the 80s, they had that one magical year in 85 other than that, like Jim McMahon was just a pretty good quarterback. And then you go through like the Rex Grossman, you know, deal and the Kyle Orton deal, you know, but I'm really having to stretch my memory to find that the periods of time where Chicago had any measurable success and then followed through on it. I think everything they say that you don't like about the way that the Jones is run it actually applies to the Chicago Bears when it comes to the dysfunction. What if I, what if I told you that in fantasy land, Bill Belichick takes over next season there in Chicago? I would, I would rather have Ben Johnson if it was in Chicago. I got a, I can't keep busting on these quarterbacks. I can't, I can't keep, you mentioned all these. I draft mr. Bisky, but you know, I can't, I can't, so you want to go get an offensive guy, I get that totally. And I think that's even better for sure. It, what was our guy? He's now in Kansas City. They got him from Kansas City. The guy that was before Matt Eberflues, the ball hit it. Why am I kidding? Oh, oh, I know exactly. Yeah. I see his face. And I can't remember his name. Texan, Texan, who the guy is. I'm son of a gun. I can't remember his name bears. He's a coordinator now with the, yeah, he had a fancy resume and anything. And they were thinking he was going to be the guy who got into the playoffs. And then after that, he was garbage. They're going to go get an office. Matt and Aggie, Matt and Aggie, I'm sorry. I couldn't remember that. But I don't trust Bella check to find the offensive guy who's going to make Kayla. No, that's why I'm going to get Ben Johnson. He's in my division. I'm going to get a guy that knows my division and how to beat the division. That's what I'm going to go do. Yeah, I just think when it comes to team building and personnel, like that front office and the way that the family medals in the affairs is going to make things difficult. So I would, I would prefer to have Bella check who I in theory would kind of take things over and be the face of the personnel and the main visionary. Okay, we go to here. This is a ESPN's quarterback confidential, most overrated quarterbacks in the NFL. Who did they vote for? And I do have to pass along. Might be that guy with the chargers. Dak Prescott got zero votes. Oh, nobody thinks he's overrated in the NFL, which is good. That's a feather in his cap. They're in his cap, amongst the hunter. Oh, do they have an underrated category? They do have a lot of underrated. I bet she gets some votes in that. And he did. Oh, did he? Okay. He was he was not top five, but he was amongst the guys also getting votes. So there's a a good level of respect there for Dak Prescott. But the overrated guy, I'm curious. Who is the overrated guy? Is it Justin Herbert? I bet you they think Allen is an Allen. Okay. Josh Herbert comes in fourth or Justin Herbert comes in fourth. Josh Allen comes in number one. Yeah. But the voting was very close. Jalen hurts number two. That's a great one. Wow. To a tied with him. Two is a great one too. Then Justin Herbert, then Trevor Lawrence at five to Sean Watson at six. Kyle Murray at seven and Brock Purdy coming in eight there. But I mean, the eighth most voting points is Brock Purdy with six of them. And Josh Allen had just 11 most underrated quarterback, biggest trash talking quarterbacks out there. The top vote getters for the biggest trash talkers from the quarterback position in the NFL. I'm going to throw one out there that I think is maybe underrated because it's just the way that he carries himself is Baker Mayfield on that list. Baker Mayfield, number two on the list is number two. I can't beat up anybody other than punters and kickers in the NFL, but he's out there talking the most trash. Wow. Maybe Josh Allen, Josh Allen, Josh Allen, number one on the list. And that was kind of a run away. Yeah. With 26 voting points. Aaron Rogers comes in third. There you go. Number four is Patrick Mahomes, actually. Nice. With his current, the frog voice, he's barking out some trash. Joe Burrow at number five, significantly less. He seems like a massive trash talker, doesn't he? He does. Yeah. I mean, there were epic stories about him in college, squaring off with like Patrick Queen, who was a linebacker for LSU and they'd go toe to toe and they were John back and forth in these practices. I know they've done some some deep dives on that LSU team. And I think they would confirm Joe Burrow being a guy who can give you a little trash talk and CJ Stroud getting some votes as well. Oh, yeah. He seems so nice in all of his interviews. Seems very generic and robotic and, you know, point into the Lord and all that, but the competition or can bring out a different deal, dude. Yeah, he does. He does. He does. He does. He's always giving that word. Chris Carter used to do that like man of God. And then he'd come over in the sidelines and MF everybody on the sidelines. You get between those lines, boy. You become a little whatever it takes to get an edge. You're a different animal time now to go into the pimp cup. Okay. Let's just out. Yeah. Pimp cup baby. It's more like it's hot up in his. You got the lid. It's hot up in here, bro. I'm telling you about for you. I think so, man. I'm gonna bring a fan up in here tomorrow. All right. It's the top two. They let's get into it right into the great regime. Well, all right, you swear. It's time to talk to a fire at this talk and let's have a talk. It don't make it dance or something, everything. Yeah. Everybody. The guy was having difficulty getting the steep and he went to the sky. Just the sky just told him, say, well, if you have difficulty, it's all mental. Say, when you go home, you lay down and relax completely. You said to yourself, over and over, toes go to sleep. Feet go to sleep. Legs go to sleep. And so all the way up your whole body said, and you'll sleep. This guy went home, he laid down. He started, he used the doctor's formula. He said toes go to sleep. Feet go to sleep. Legs go to sleep. And just as he reached his leg, his wife walked in and one of those flimsy Lego James and you can see clear through it. He started patting himself all over. I said, wake up everybody, wake up. Yeah, that's the great red fox right there. Oh, that's red fox right there. Is that like a young red fox? Yeah, yeah. Swinney was like a cocktail comedian. You know what I mean? Yeah. And then rhythm, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like Rodney Dangerfield? Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know which one to use. I grabbed like two of them, but I used that one. I had this one on deck two. There was three dogs running in the woods. It was raining hard. The first dog was throwing mud in the second dog's face. The second dog was throwing mud in the third dog's face. The second dog was looking back at the third dog's face. It's a bitch ain't it? Third dogs, it better be. Good stuff right there. We're still it. Good stuff, man. All right, Pete, to the great red fox. This is L.A. live for Tuesday, August 27th, 2024. It is a toxic Tuesday here in L.A. live, which is sponsored by kissable dental and their Nobel guarantee book online at kissabledental.com. The kissable journey starts today. General, did you see this news? What happened? You're a flying guy right now. Oh my goodness. A tire on a Boeing 757 exploded during maintenance at Atlanta Airport. During maintenance. During maintenance at Atlanta Airport. Two Dutch employees lost their lives. What? Yes. The plane just exploded. The tires exploded. Yeah, they were doing maintenance and boom. So you get like death by shrapnel? Tires shards like it was a big it was one of their big planes. One of their really big planes. See now this is going to be running through my mind. Oh my god. Yeah. How do how do the tires never explode when you're landing? Yeah. You know, how are the engines so good? I see car engines breaking down all the time. I see tires going flat all the time. Are you going to tell me just the maintenance and the check up like the pre flight check? Get some good? They're going around with their clipboard. Yep. These tires are fine. What about accidents? I just I don't know. It doesn't compute in my mind. I feel you don't say hell of a run for Boeing too, by the way, hell of a run for Boeing. Yeah, I kind of I always wondered about that walk around that pilot check thing. You know, they're kind of out there. It's maybe a little cold. You want to be I mean, you're really looking at that. Yeah, you're looking at that stabilizer there on the back of the tail, where's my flashlight? Like, Oh, God, we're we're in Buffalo. And it's you can only hope he's out there just freezing away. It's like, Oh, that looks good to me. I don't worry about that ice there, Captain. We'll go. Yeah, we'll get the D isers going. We'll take care of it, sir. Also connected to Boeing is those astronauts out of stuck in space. You got to see in that? Yeah. Okay. I feel like there should be a bigger news story, but you know, they just mention it and go on to the next thing. But that is the time we live in too, because you're not going to go get them. That's what I'm that's what it's looking like. SpaceX might go up there and they're giving themselves like a full year of buffer like sometime in 2025. Yeah, they will spend at least eight months aboard the International Space Station. They went up there on a Boeing starliner. Yeah, space spacecrafts. Oh my gosh, Boeing, the initial trip was supposed to be only eight days. Oh, no. Oh, three hour tour where they started getting. Now they got to go up there to the International Space Station with all the other astronauts like, Oh man, move over. What are y'all leaving? How would you like to be that that gal's husband back on Earth too? So like, what you gonna do for the next eight months, honey? You guys really? How's old butch doing? Yeah. You guys really sleep standing up. Oh my god. I hate to hear it, honey. We sure are missing you down here. I'll tell you what, man. Honey's on the phone. We love you, baby. If they had plenty of tang, I think I'd stay up there too. Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, there's only about one essentials. Yeah, you gotta have tang. If you're gonna make me stay up there for extra months, I gotta have some tang. My man's saying you're essential. You gotta have your essentials. That's a fact. Two types of things. That is a fact. I don't need water when I got. That's what's all about, baby. Oh man. G back of the day, we do it every week down to fan in 230. If you see anything floating out there, don't be afraid to hit me up at lucky Lucius P on social media, Lucius Alexander on Facebook, follow us all the G back nation on Twitter. Yeah, no, you did that. I walked in. You did that. Our winner right here is a high school football PA announcer got caught in a hot mic situation. Turn around. Yeah. Pass intended for number 11, Tyler George, in complete penalty markers down. Turn around, you dumbass, redesign. I don't know why I'm calling a 16 year old a dumbass. They're laughing every box. Kind of redundant. Maybe it's more ass hat. That was a Oh, wow. Incredible man. You think he's talking to a linebacker or a cornerback? It felt like a corner. Yeah. Yeah, exactly bro. Corner that's got no business playing the position, but turn around. The best we got, man. Turn around. I know you shouldn't be playing 20s on. Yeah. But your eyes on them. I'm like, keep your eyes on them. Yeah. I kind of like the statistician guy laughing along with him. Uh, LA live 105 through the fan on a toxic Tuesday. Let's get a little toxic. Olympic sprinter, Noah Lyles, the internet calls him kind of weird. They don't like his takes on things. He starts up a little controversy sometimes. The NBA can be very happy. Not that they're not a fan of them. Every time he posts something, they troll them. Yeah. Well, we might have a reason for why he comes off a little weird to us. Uh, Olympic sprinter, Noah Lyles says he was raised in a cult. He was on the first episode of a new podcast called everybody wants to beat us. Lyles opened up about his uphill battle with the church, not religion, not religion. He said he's very religious. He has his faith and he believes in it. But, uh, he says the church grew up in a cult. Check this out. You know what's crazy? This is actually the first time that I've been in a podcast. We talked about religion. Um, but I'm gonna give my quick religious story. Uh, I actually grew up in a cult. Wait a minute. It wasn't, it wasn't, it just wasn't at the level of, yeah, okay, we're gonna drink the clue late. But it was very, it was super strict. All the moms had to be, you know, homeschooling their kids and the father was the head of the household and, you know, the church told you who you could date, who you couldn't date. You know, if you got married, it had to be through us. That type of behavior. Um, it's, we, and we left and that's why we moved to North Carolina because we were going to start another church only to figure out they wanted to do the same thing. He said they wanted to be the head instead of dot the tail. Yeah. So, uh, we left that and, but that kind of really messed up my view in church and it definitely messed up my mom's view. That's kind of sad. Yeah. It's a bummer. It's just bummer. Yeah. Yeah. He seems to have a good attitude about it. He's got a good, yeah. I mean, he laughed. I actually grew up in a cult. No way, poor guy. Not the kind of drinks that who laid. Yeah. I think about those all the time, though, the, the Colts, uh, like the Jim Jones one. Yeah. Jim Jones, Jim Jones was swaggy too. He had the glasses and every day that he looked apart. He had a good voice. Jim Morrison would have been a hell of a tough show. Yeah, man. But like even the Branch Davidians down here in Waco, like dudes letting guys like the, the main guy like sleep with their wives. Uh-huh. Yeah. Like there's so many obvious signs of, hey, uh, you know, this is getting kind of weird here. What makes people go along with that? Yeah. That's, that's the weird thing right there. I wish we knew. I'd have gotten, I'd have gathered the family and got to the Kalachi store. Had some Kalachi's got out of there. Yeah. We're getting out of here. We're getting out of here. Before you do that, I'll take two with cheese. Yeah. You got any tang in there? Don't laugh at tang. So if I'd have been fortified, hey, I've had, literally I've overdone it on tang to the point where it was like my stomach. I hurt my stomach. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good feeling. Like yourself serving that stuff. It's a good feeling. You know what I mean? Yeah. I thought you had some burns or something like that. It was sensitive. He got a skipper night. That led his heel. Name a modern day cult on the fan tags. Name a modern day cult. I'm glad that my man got through that situation and he was opening up the talking about it a little bit. He still kept his faith. He know us. Yeah. Well, hey, good for him, bro. Good for him. Speaking of Colton whatnot, you guys remember a televangelist Kenneth Copeland? Do I remember him? Okay. You do. Yeah. Yeah. Remember inside edition? Is he got a plane still? He that inside edition. Oh, yes. Was following this man. That face you'll never forget. That face you'll never forget. That's why I care to haunt you. And they were talking about his airplanes, his private jets. And he said, you know, God basically said, I need to get these private jets. Well, televagilist Kenneth Copeland is under fire again. This time it was at Kenneth Copeland's ministry's annual Southwest Believers Convention in Fort Worth. Kenneth Copeland thank Jesus for a dying man's seed offering. The dying man gave a Bentley away. And Copeland's getting a little hot water for this. My little feather. My little call me. He said, how many brightlings do you have? Oh, watches. And I said, I don't know. 36, I think I haven't counted them lately. And I have in my closet, I have winders. And there's a lot of them in there. And he said, I'm going to give you number 37. I said, great, mom. Now he's believing God for his kingdom. He said, I'm giving you my Bentley. And it has a Breitling clock. Bentley with a. Thank you, Jesus. Yeah, the dying man had given the Bentley in hopes that it would bring him some healing. Copeland took that and bragged about it on this situation. Oh, nice little tradesie. Yeah. Nice little tradesie. Pretty good. Anybody else terminal in here? Oh, man. My man said he had 36 brightlings already. God, dude. Those are some nice ass watches. Those are some nice ass watches. These got a whole lot of them. They just gave them some more. That's wild. I seen a viral video of Kenneth Copeland. They said he was possessed by Damon. I think somebody doctored this audio. They definitely put some music behind it. But I think somebody doctored this audio too. We learn about this. This cover is a card. What blood? The blood of this covenant? Cut the covenant with his father God. Glory. Yes, my. Don't ever do it. Don't ever feel sorry for your. Don't ever do it. Yeah, I'm kind of demonic. Yeah. That's why Damon or something like that. Stuff on a toxic Tuesday, bro. Just some wild stuff. Hey, Mr. Dawson. Yeah. Did you hear the new G Bag Nation AI song? I did not. You did not hear that. Have I been tagged in it? I don't think so. I think you were out when I played it one time. This is awesome. Yeah. I'm going to play it for you again before we get out of here though. Get in here by yourself. 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